A PS3 Slim/Super Slim Misdiagnosis: The No Light of Death

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  • @ripfelix3020
    @ripfelix3020 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +34

    Preach brother!

    • @timucinaziz
      @timucinaziz 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Please make a video about this Felix , i cant find a short or blown fuse. I will be happy if you respond.I have a error code of 2110 that means its Clock Subsystems right? I have a cech2503A

  • @AxleGrinder
    @AxleGrinder 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    It has been so frustrating how little information exists on this. This video is the first time I've seen any conclusive information regarding this "no light of death" and has definitely saved me a lot of time trying to get my system running on a PC or bench power supply. Such classics as "just re-seat the power supply, works every time" all the way to "you need to re-ball your RSX and CELL" came up constantly, but this is extremely helpful! Gives me some hope at least. If I get the system back up and running, I'll owe you big time.
    Update 1: Tried to get to the LED diagnosis mode and the system will not power on in the fantest mode. The 5V circuit off the PSU seems to go dead until being plugged back in, suggesting perhaps it has entered a failsafe mode. I'm lucky enough to have lab equipment on hand, so I will do a load test on the 12V rail next. With an electronic load, I can set the current accurately. The unit is rated for up to 16A so below that, the voltage should not drop in any distinct way. I already tested the voltage out and it's showing 11.8V... seems low already. I might be lucky and have a PSU fail on my hands.
    If my load test shows no clear drop, I will go ahead with your advice to get codes off the syscon.
    Update 2: Did more digging. I measured the resistance between the 12v inputs on the main board and it showed around 1 Ohm… thought I did this test before but must have missed something. On finding this, I began the tear down and found that with the Blu-ray drive removed, the resistance was up in the KOhm range so I tried to start it… worked! I need to investigate the drive further… not sure if that part is repairable but I’m very happy with today’s work! Interestingly, I re-seated the Blu-ray drive (2504b model so the ribbon is below the drive) and it turned on. Put the console back together and it is dead again… not expected but I didn’t spend any time to figure out why.

    • @Nascar1243
      @Nascar1243  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Very very interesting read, I need to get some of that lab equipment you mentioned. So I would assume it only works without the BD Drive plugged in if I am reading that correctly. Very good work with the diagnostics on that unit. I think personally the BD Drive just has an internal short or the voltage line on the BD Drive is somehow shorted only when the drive is plugged in. That or maybe the BD Drive is somehow shorting it, try assembling the console without the BD Drive and see if the issue persists, if it does then there is something shorting on the motherboard when the top shell is screwed down.

    • @AxleGrinder
      @AxleGrinder 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@Nascar1243 I managed to fix my console today! Turned out to be fully my fault too and there is no major hardware fault. Turns out I previously misrouted the fan cable between the ir shield and the power supply body and it had over time broken through the insulation on the 12v line, probably due to vibration from the fan or something… I must have dislodged the cable when removing the Blu-ray drive last time hence the misdiagnosis there. Makes sense why putting the lid back on broke it again last time. I put some electrical tape around the fan cables and was sure to route them correctly and it’s all good now! Quite the adventure. I still owe your video to my jump off point trying to run the LED diagnostic mode, so thank you!

    • @Nascar1243
      @Nascar1243  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@AxleGrinder glad to hear you got it fixed, stuff like that happens, I’ve even done that before, but it’s working that’s all that matters

    • @Nascar1243
      @Nascar1243  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@AxleGrinder do you think you could grab the code, can use the ps3toolset website to grab it, would be good to know what it is for knowledge purposes

    • @AxleGrinder
      @AxleGrinder 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@Nascar1243 of course! You won’t be surprised I’m sure to hear it’s a bunch of 3001 errors 😄

  • @tman8876
    @tman8876 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Broken ps3 diagnosis and repair is my new favorite genre of videos. I am not joking.

  • @Zombie6275
    @Zombie6275 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Thank you for the guide, I bought a new PSU thinking that was the issue. I'll look into the syscon error log!

  • @mugenmaniac1598
    @mugenmaniac1598 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I liked this, Nascar. Sony should have indeed done the secondary binary when they first made the system. That could have made diagnosing what was actually wrong with other's systems much easier.

  • @spcjeffersoncountyil555pro7
    @spcjeffersoncountyil555pro7 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    my Ps3 slim did the no light of death but a few seconds after that it beeped at me 3 or 4 times so I let it sit for some time then turned it back on and well it has worked fine after that.

    • @Nascar1243
      @Nascar1243  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Yours was overheating, I was able to get the same results on another slim when I was testing something and left it on, got 3 long beeps when it overheated. NoLOD does not have any beeps, you will still have a syscon error code

  • @snydder1771
    @snydder1771 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    my PS3 Slim 2501b is currently at a repair shop with this exact issue. It has been sitting in its box for 7+ years with no resolution, and this happened just a week after its warranty expired, sony didnt give a shit about helping me. I hope the technicians that have my PS3 know about the syscon before attempting a reflow or reball.

    • @Nascar1243
      @Nascar1243  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      That’s the unfortunate part too, I talked to Fasttech which is a repair shop on TH-cam (not sure if you have heard of them) and they did those stupid videos so I thought I would correct them, went back and forth in emails and eventually they blocked me after discussing syscon with them and they did nothing, they left their dangerous guides up and don’t care, whatever they can do to make money I guess

    • @snydder1771
      @snydder1771 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Yeah who knows. When I last tried sending it for a repair the syscon stuff didnt exist yet, so there's refreshed hope.

    • @Nascar1243
      @Nascar1243  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@snydder1771 you could see if Computer Booter would be willing to fix it, he doesn’t work on slims often but if it is an easy fix then he can try to repair it

    • @snydder1771
      @snydder1771 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Nascar1243 I would if I were US based. Stuck on Brazil here. ;)

    • @Nascar1243
      @Nascar1243  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@snydder1771 I actually know a few people in Brazil, here’s what I suggest, go to Computer Booter’s site and see if you can join his discord, there are people from Brazil that might be able to help you

  • @izhanshafiq324
    @izhanshafiq324 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I liked my slim like more than 10 years back while de-lidding RSX. Even after replacing RSX it was still dead and had this no light of death.

    • @Nascar1243
      @Nascar1243  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That’s because the no light of death is like the yellow light of death, it’s a general hardware fault, and the RSX is likely not the culprit, without the syscon codes there is no way of knowing what’s causing the problem or a way to pinpoint a possible area

    • @izhanshafiq324
      @izhanshafiq324 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Nascar1243 if I still had that console, I'd definitely use SYSCON diagnosis. I don't remember if it was documented back in 2013.

    • @Nascar1243
      @Nascar1243  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@izhanshafiq324 ah I missed the 10 years ago part my bad

  • @protoyeen
    @protoyeen 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I was hoping I didn't have to break down and get a soldering kit...

    • @mayor_assistant
      @mayor_assistant 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      i heard it’s not that hard

    • @Nascar1243
      @Nascar1243  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      It isn't too bad at all, just 3 simple wires, but I would recommend practicing on dead boards, doesn't have to be syscon specifically, just practice soldering to pads in general before attempting it.

    • @protoyeen
      @protoyeen 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Nascar1243 I'll give it a practice run before I actually do it but what worries me is my shakey movements from my physical condition.

    • @Nascar1243
      @Nascar1243  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@protoyeen honestly I have somewhat shaky hands even though it may not seem like it, the pads are bigger than you’d think but definitely practice a bit on some pads on other consoles or that ps3 with different pads

  • @optibinds
    @optibinds 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    the LED Diag Mode is just geniues and w move from sony, i wonder if some other companies have done something close to it too, also looking back my friend has the 30xx or 31xx model and i think he got the No light of death, il try to help him diagnosing this issue cause when he sent it to repair they've said it's the CELL faillure (could be money grabbing)

    • @Nascar1243
      @Nascar1243  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      They pretty much are, cell failure is very rare, even cell bga faults are uncommon.

    • @rayojordan2838
      @rayojordan2838 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I have a 3001a model that has this problem except it’s takes about 3-5 to power off.
      I have a 2501a with a similar problem and I also have a special edition grand turismo 5 blue ps3 slim that has a Bluetooth problem and been wanting to get it fixed 😢

  • @Morscode_Gaming
    @Morscode_Gaming 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Popcorn ready

    • @EzraInfinite
      @EzraInfinite 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Can I have some

  • @derautist2260
    @derautist2260 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Very Great Video 😊

  • @clarencioo3040
    @clarencioo3040 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I also have error 2040 in my slim gotta fix it soon!

    • @Nascar1243
      @Nascar1243  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      It can be a 12v issue so check all fuses, make sure none are blown

    • @clarencioo3040
      @clarencioo3040 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@Nascar1243F6300 isn't blown though

    • @Nascar1243
      @Nascar1243  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@clarencioo3040 that was just an example in my case, 2040 by the looks of it seems to be 12v power related, so it can be anything on the 12v rail. Personally I also think it replaced a 3001 error on the slim and super slim

    • @clarencioo3040
      @clarencioo3040 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Nascar1243 I still tried to replace it with a known good fuse, no luck xD still tested the lights again and using uart still A0012040 🥲

    • @clarencioo3040
      @clarencioo3040 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Nascar1243 I have something to ask, I have just fixed the error 2040 on a PS3 Slim CECH3000 with KTE-001 Board by adjusting the potentiometer on the PSU, it seems fine but there's new error 2130/2131 or 2030/2031 even if it's working and upon testing for 6 hours with rest in between the PS3 shutdowns itself again. And then I've checked for new errors got the error 2130/2131 which is the Thermal Sensor according to the wiki (Don't know if it's the diode inside the CPU/GPU Chip or the thermal IC????). Btw, my temps are normal 57-62°C stable at 34% fan speed in TLOU based on WebMAN during the tests. Should I give up and let this rest in peace or this is still fixable? 😅

  • @chimalaia
    @chimalaia 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Nice video. Since 2019 my PS3 has been showing the error: no light of death. When it first happened I waited a few minutes and then it started working again for about 5 minutes and then the error came back. I left the PS3 unplugged for about 3 weeks and it worked again for approximately 2 months and then the error returned. Is it a problem with the PSU?
    Edit: I've been doing this ever since. I play on it for a few months, the problem returns, I unplug it for a month and then I use it normally again until the error returns. I've been doing this cycle since 2019.

    • @Nascar1243
      @Nascar1243  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      It can be anything on the motherboard that will cause your issue, you will need to grab the error log to see what’s going on, if you have a 21xx, 25xx, or 30xx, you can use the video I linked in the description called LED Diag mode. That will grab the last known syscon code. If you can get the console to boot use the syscon tutorial video I also linked and you can grab the full error log.

    • @chimalaia
      @chimalaia 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@Nascar1243 Thank you for your help. I have performed the LED test and noted the syscon error code: GGGR-GGRR-GGGG-GGGR = 1301. On the PS3 developer wiki site it says:
      "Has been reported in a console where the CPU die was chipped during a delid attempt gone wrong. The console displayed a Green Light of Death (GLOD) and shutting down periodically with A0801301.
      On another console 1301 occurred after both the CPU and RSX were reballed. The reball of cell likely failed, or damaged it.
      On a third console it was reported after nearly every chip on the Motherboard was heat gunned. They probably didn't achieve the necessary temperatures to reflow the CPU, and if they did they probably damaged it by using too much heat.
      In all 3 cases the CPU was damaged or heated in some way."
      I've never modified my motherboard either heated it, could it be the thermal paste? The console is from late 2010.

    • @Nascar1243
      @Nascar1243  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@chimalaiathe 1301 tends to come from a cell issue, what’s the history of that console or do you know

  • @kabbo04
    @kabbo04 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    i have been facing NLOD . when this occures i hear a click sound

  • @fahast
    @fahast 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    My PS3 Slim model 2500 has the same issue , sent it in the for the repairs , the repair shop has pointed out that it is the RSX chip faulty .

    • @Nascar1243
      @Nascar1243  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Did they check the syscon codes? If not then they are just trying to get more money out of you by saying it needs a reball when it doesnt

  • @kami-kun_va
    @kami-kun_va 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Druaga1 but with PS3's

  • @Streek2012
    @Streek2012 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    My ps3 slim does that too

    • @Nascar1243
      @Nascar1243  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Check the syscon error log and use LED Diag if you are able to, this would be the best way to diagnose your console.

    • @Streek2012
      @Streek2012 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@Nascar1243 thank you!

    • @polonavarro6177
      @polonavarro6177 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Hi .what tools do You use to run the syscom diag.?

    • @Nascar1243
      @Nascar1243  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@polonavarro6177 you need a serial adapter which is a FT232 and some wires, I linked Felix’s video on Syscon in the description so you can follow that and get what you need

    • @polonavarro6177
      @polonavarro6177 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Nascar1243 thanks i 'll check the video.

  • @mrteal1299
    @mrteal1299 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Does anyone know this fix? My ps3 slim after playing for like an hour the screen becomes blank no audio, no video and when i try to turn off the ps3 slim using the power button it beeps twice and stays on green and does not turn off. Only way is by ripping the power cable 😢😢

    • @Nascar1243
      @Nascar1243  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Could be a bga fault, is there a history of drop damage to the console? If so that’s possible, you can try putting pressure on the top of the console to the right of where the bd drive is, not too much, but that would kind of be a confirmation in a way

  • @Iloveowlsandbirds
    @Iloveowlsandbirds 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Does resetting the PS3 NOLOD sometimes work? maybe my PS3 is just corrupted. Before this happened, I successfully pirated the game for the first time to the PS3, and we played it for like 2 hours. Later at night, I was just playing around with MultiMan a bit and transferring the games from USB to internal storage. After it was done, I turned it off normally like any other day, and a day later, it just happened😭. Well, maybe it's not corrupted and not the only problem with my PS3. It has an internet problem. Maybe that could be the reason??. Sometimes PS3 internet is not working; it always shows a DNS error code. You can't sign on to your PSN account or watch Netflix or TH-cam. While the other device we have still works. We dindt let it fix to the game store cause its expensive😅. It so unfortunate that it just got broke down when i finally pirated my ps3😞like imagine the games im going to play😭 that would be so fun and i was so excited to play before this was happening. Im not smart with techs so I'm not goanna fix it and definitely won't go to the store to fix it because they probably won't fixed it Aswell but maybe in the future i will fix it :D

    • @Nascar1243
      @Nascar1243  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      There is no way to reset it, it’s an error meaning it is preventing the system from booting up, and until the error is fixed (unless it’s just an error due to a crash) then it will not boot back up, check syscon error logs and see if you have any

    • @Iloveowlsandbirds
      @Iloveowlsandbirds 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@Nascar1243hello, I did not do the syscon thing but I did the led diag mode on my ps3, It shows 3034. Do I have to use syscon to know the correct error??? Is led diag mode accurate??

    • @Nascar1243
      @Nascar1243  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@Iloveowlsandbirds it shows the most recent code so if it shows 3034 then that’s what you have

  • @TheUncleSpiderX
    @TheUncleSpiderX 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have a PS3 phat I just got
    It works properly but the green light is NOT on but the blue light for the disc drive
    What does that mean

    • @Nascar1243
      @Nascar1243  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Probably just the green led burned out, I wouldn’t worry about it

  • @MotSure
    @MotSure 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Anyone encountered and or found a fix for grgr rrrr rrrr rrrr or 5fff code? Not finding much Info for such a code

    • @Nascar1243
      @Nascar1243  8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@MotSure there unfortunately isn’t a lot of info for it but it seems to coorelate with cpu or GPU bga defect, similar to a 3034.

  • @TheRightAngleGamer
    @TheRightAngleGamer 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My ps3 just doesn’t even turn on. I have 3001B model and after 7 months of it not working I plugged it in and got a red light for 3 seconds then back to no light whatsoever.
    Would this still be considered the NoLOD or is this a psu issue?

    • @Nascar1243
      @Nascar1243  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That’s going to be a worse issues, likely that is the “No Standby” issue which can be caused by a blown Wifi/BT module, it can short the 5v rail. But unfortunately when that standby goes out so does your syscon so syscon diagnostics goes out the window

    • @TheRightAngleGamer
      @TheRightAngleGamer 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Nascar1243do you know if that is a module I can replace and it’ll work again or would the problem still persist because of another short around the module?

    • @Nascar1243
      @Nascar1243  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@TheRightAngleGamer if it is that module then it would not be an easy fix nor would it be worth fixing

    • @TheRightAngleGamer
      @TheRightAngleGamer 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Nascar1243 damn, alright, thanks for the advice tho!

  • @timucinaziz
    @timucinaziz 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Can someone help me i have this error and i cant find a single blown fuze

    • @Nascar1243
      @Nascar1243  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It’s 12v related, check and see if you get 12v power

    • @UC6t1kPRBUtOkf_ECrCZhwQw
      @UC6t1kPRBUtOkf_ECrCZhwQw หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Nascar1243do you need to change the battery?

    • @Nascar1243
      @Nascar1243  หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@UC6t1kPRBUtOkf_ECrCZhwQw I rarely ever have to change the battery, you can check the voltage with a multimeter

    • @UC6t1kPRBUtOkf_ECrCZhwQw
      @UC6t1kPRBUtOkf_ECrCZhwQw หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Nascar1243 im not sure whats the problem with mine. it's a model 2501A, it does the no light of death but when i unplug it for a while and plug it back it, it works for a couple hours. The wifi doesn't seem to work anymore to.I've never opened a ps3 and im not sure what to do🥲

  • @kevinmartinez1193
    @kevinmartinez1193 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Whats the best ps3 to get then?

    • @Nascar1243
      @Nascar1243  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Right now the best model to get seems to be the 2101A or 2001A as they have the more reliable wifi/BT Chip. Or the 65nm phat models but for the 2001A and 65nm phats tokins can fail but not super common. On 25xx and newer they have a wifi chip that can burn out and make your system unusable.

  • @UxelessWolf78YT
    @UxelessWolf78YT 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    ha. My ps3 slim still works

    • @Nascar1243
      @Nascar1243  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      As it should, just know that depending on your model if you have issues and you get a NoLOD it won’t always be a psu fault or overheating, just do syscon diagnostics and you’ll be good to go

  • @succ5666
    @succ5666 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You know what the weird thing is, I think my cecha01 ps3 has the no light of death. I remember getting scammed on Mercari on that ps3 and I took it up to a repair place. That’s when I found out it was penny tricked. Oh yea the ps3 was a literal jet engine.

    • @Nascar1243
      @Nascar1243  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The A01 doesn’t have the no light of death. The only time I have ever seen it on an A01 was from a genuine power supply fault but a penny trick wouldn’t kill that. Still not ideal but they don’t have that no light of death, not the same as the slim and super slim anyways

    • @succ5666
      @succ5666 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Nascar1243 I’ve made a post about it on psx, I have the video of the ps3 too there as well. It very well could be a power supply issue.

    • @succ5666
      @succ5666 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      But what throws me off is that if it were a power supply issue, wouldn’t that also bring up YLOD

    • @Nascar1243
      @Nascar1243  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@succ5666 if the power supply was shorted out or completely dead on the 5v rail then no it wouldn’t as the syscon relies on the 5v rail. If the 5v rail has an issue then syscon will not throw a YLOD, I’ve had a psu go bad and have the same issue you are describing, it didn’t throw a syscon code, it was just caps that went bad in the psu but I wouldn’t recommend replacing them as it’s obviously dangerous to do so

    • @succ5666
      @succ5666 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Nascar1243 if this does turn out to be the fix, I’m probably gonna be relieved and really upset at the same time considering what I went through with this ps3