“I can excuse racism, covering up for sexual predators and sending hush money, but fake advertising and false eyelashes is where I draw the line” - The Beauty Community
Honestly I think all of this situation just proves how, no matter how trivial the drama may be, women will ALWAYS be held to a higher standard than men in the beauty community. Cancel culture does not exist for men, just like it clearly doesn’t exist for Jeffree Star, James Charles, Shane Dawson, Manny MUA, etc. Think of all the women who have been cancelled- there are a lot less who have been able to claw their way back to popularity again. Edit: also 🐣🦆
don’t even get me started on james charles. it just shows everyone’s true colors. how we just forget about him talking to minors🤨? i genuinely thought i was the only one who remembered.
It’s called “selective outrage” and it’s where people get hung up on one tiny microscopic issue and ignore the HUGE looming issues that are really much more serious
Jeffrey acting like the yaks will make people forget about the fact he called a black women a gorilla. For real tho it’s concerning how quickly white audiences are willing to forgive racism from large creators.
For that matter, he even lied about the yaks for a while! He said some bs about the yaks being his buddies and only selling the hair or some such… but people did some digging and found he’d already registered company names and domains for yak meat from day 1.
@@sheelfjohnsondoesnt matter if he said it to one, the black women who heard it felt it in their souls. the emotional damage is far reaching bestie xoxo
I love how calm, balanced, and rational your commentaries are. You drop quirky jokes along the way and use your talent for makeup to create eye-catching aesthetics, and both truly add an element of entertainment to the educational side of your videos. I subscribed about a year ago and I'm still enjoying your content! Keep going girl. Love from South Korea :)
Some people really just chose to forgive and forget all the atrocities committed by these influencers coming back just to speak on this. Yes, there's legal ramifications for false advertising, but we don't need racists and predators to talk about it. There's more than enough RESPONSIBLE, RELIABLE, AND RESPECTFUL influencers to talk about this situation, like Salem! Moral of the story, just because someone owns a yak farm doesn't make them a saint 🙄🤦🏻♀️
Yeah Alissa Ashley talked about it in a respectful but firm way not in a passive aggressive shady way from an influencer who has done some messed up stuff
Idk how people can forget the things he's said & done when as of THIS WEEK he's spewed more hateful comments about trans people. He is openly transphobic and said that conservatives like him because he's just "real". I'm glad I never accepted his apology for his past racism, he will always be a bigot to one group or another it seems.
When people gatekeep neurodivergency it feels like the same thing as people romanticizing depression - like, you don't know what people go through, just STOP. Life is messy for all of us, no one is the main character. Love that you put healthy boundaries up.
as an autistic person, the gatekeeping neurodivergency really gets to me because in of itself neurodivergent is meant to be a diverse label and often when people DO gatekeep they actually just mean adhd or autism. i also just dont get the point of it, like you said i want them to stop
@@peiithos yess I wish people would just say which disorder they mean instead of just neurodivergent like what does schizophrenia have to do with social cues 😭
@@thechumbucket8986 lack of eye contact? Idk apparently that and listening to same songs on repeat is a thing with both schizophrenia and autism. Can confirm for the autism, but idk personally about the schizophrenia
@@resoldbaby7687 Hahah, everyone might be the main character, but the main character doesn't have to ruin everyone elses story! Let's all be heroes and not villains - or at least chaotic neutral passerbys!
people think YOU'RE aggressive? man youre a hell of a lot nicer and rational than me and even softened my feeling towards the people mentioned in this video... i think you're amazing! you are firm and confident
BRO, WHO CARES ABOUT RACISM, LET'S TALK ABOUT HIM NOT ONLY SUPPORING A CHILD S.ABSER BUT PROBABLY ALSO ALLOWING HIM TO HURT THOSE KIDS IN THE 1RST PLACE. Not that racism doesn't matter duh but I feel like people can unlearn racism, but you can't come back from p*dophilia.
🦆I really appreciate the commentary on forgiveness. I’ve always struggled with the fact that people expect instant acceptance of an apology. And then guilt you when you don’t accept…
hey why are you and most people putting ducks and chicks in front of the comment? This is the first video of this creator I'm seeing so I'm interested ^^
I’m sorry, all this drama is because of something big name mascaras have been doing for the past forever?? Why do people even take influencers so seriously?
Because the one of the biggest reasons we like beauty influencers is because they're suppoused to be more honest than makeup brands and give us actual useful suggestions on what to buy. At least that's how it used to be...
It seems like a mental Illness, these people praise and worship these people they do not know. I’m a fan of certain celebs/artists, but I also know people are just that, people. They make mistakes and will likely be caught in a lie or two due to greed and not to be shocked if that happens.
@@kamsm.2556 This wasn't a mistake it was an active choice to deceive her audience who she's gained through trying to get them to trust her like at 23:00. Are parasocial relationships at play? Yes, but is the outrage also because people are expecting reviewers (which is what she is not just an influencer) to be honest? Also yes
Part 1 = 6:54 - just an eyelash away. Part 2 = 14:13 - mixing humanity with the brand. Part 3 = 23:50 - cutting off accessibility = social safety. Part 4 = 27:35 - the disappearance then come back of Jeffree star. Part 5 = 32:21 - the four horsemen of the internet apology apocalypse. Part 6 = 45:07 - picking & choosing who gets to face accountability & who doesn't. Random popping off scrolling bit = 49:51 Conclusion? = 55:30
The point about non-white creators not getting the same amount of support/forgiveness as white creators is incredibly valid and I think there's another piece that adds in: The way males in female dominated spaces are treated. I work in a female dominated industry and males are treated like magical unicorns that can do no wrong. I see the same thing in the beauty industry, especially with influencers.
Hypothesis: these fan bases turn a blind eye because they see their faves as indispensable to internet culture. Internet culture thrives on drama, it keeps the momentum going. Jeffree coming back isn't really about makeup, it's about the him feeding people's insatiable appetite for drama. People who cause this amount of chaos on the internet cannot be truly cancelled, they will resurface at some point. It doesn't matter whether we like them or not. Ultimately, all influencers become a commodity on the internet. Some people understand this and use it to their advantage at the risk of their 'public image', they realize that they don't have to take accountability irl as long as their online persona makes it seem like they do. I honestly feel like minorities, neuro-divergent individuals, POC, etc., should protect their vulnerability online as much as possible, bc few are the spaces that are actually safe.
This is actually a really fascinating hypothesis, ty for sharing! Will have me thinking about this for weeks, almost as much as Salem’s actual video will lol :)
Being held accountable is truly possible only if the person chooses to do so. Like Jenna, she really did feel terrible for what she did and chose to leave the platform for the better. Then again, some people are just stuck on Money and fame's tit milking it for all it's worth.
THANK YOU for this. Cause I’ve been avoiding this “lash” drama for this very reason! Like ya’ll really letting the Crypt Keeper use this as a comeback? Maybe it’s different because I’m black but the girlies really jumped back on this like he wasn’t a generally shitty person. I was so confused.
“Crypt Keeper” girl the way I died 💀💀 whole heartedly agree, like y’all just gonna glaze over all the racism and acceptance of predatory behavior ??? No thank you.
Simple.It's bc people say that they r outraged by racism, but really r not that bothered about it, so it hits the same as someone that lies about lashes ...People show you who they r- leaders and followers.Believe them & then decide what YOUR next move will be.
I think it's a mix of different problems - the more time has passed, the more people either forget or its impact is minimised in public memory, and second the fact that Star's problematic behaviour doesn't directly impact a majority of people but rather depends on people having empathy continuously in order to even understand why it's problematic, whereas Mikaela's problematic behaviour doesn't NEED empathy from viewers, everyone can just feel directly insulted that she tried to pull one over them. It's interesting how human behaviour is influenced by feeling personally attacked vs having to put yourself in someone else's shoes consistently. I noticed this with another issue but in a very different way - more female TH-camrs showed truly passionate responses and anger at the anti-abortion changes in recent past (the Roe v Wade) because it directly affects us, and the same people (who ARE nice and good and aren't being malicious) spoke up against racism, but in a very subdued, speaking-the-liberal-talking-points kind of way, like of course they were sincere in their support, but you also got a sense of detachment due to their distance from the issue. Such a huge contrast between what felt like a true issue vs something that of course they champion but is not personal to them. All this to say, seems like typical human behaviour 😅
Another thing I thought of - villainy can be forgiven (or forgotten) but affecting someone's pride or ego or being irritating in a regular way is somehow hated more. Think Voldemort Vs Umbridge. I really think swindlers will be hated more on a personal level than mass murderers because something about being fooled will hit more people more personally and lead to a more visceral and gut based reaction. I could be completely, absolutely wrong about this though lol.
🦆 i agree mikayla was rightfully called out but the calling out turned into a huge massive deal that allowed worse people like jstar and jc to come back 🤬 they are like a stubborn pimple that refuses to go away
This video is such a breath of fresh air. Canceling influencers can be such a flippant and performative thing when it becomes this barrage of shitting on creators for such minor things and never ever letting things go. People DO change!! Calling it “Selective outrage culture” really hits the nail on its head. It’s so inconsistent and it seriously harms smaller creators who are genuinely just trying their best and are not trying to hurt anyone. I also appreciate your take on accepting apologies. It’s how I feel about apologies as well, because I know at least a few examples of people who seem great at taking accountability and apologizing for their behavior or for some type of outburst, but then I find that their words are empty because they continue to make the same mistakes over and over again. It’s like they think that as long as they’re self aware a light to say sorry because they know they acted out, they think it gives them a clean slate every time. But when this becomes a pattern, you have to actively make a change and work on being better in order for people to truly take your apologies seriously.
@@copiouscat but why support her? i don’t support either of those ppl, but her job is to influence ppl. why would she choose to influence ppl using lies?
@@jinawadi8680 🤷🏽♀️ idk she hasn’t been malicious nor a fuk up person, nor asshole. Her lying and falling into the cycle of purporting deceptive marketing can be forgiven, but J Star is literally not a good person. And I speaking on my “support” is only as far as watching her shorts on YT that’s it I don’t click links or buy anything so there’s that 🤣 support is used very loosely here tbh but yeah I guess you can say I don’t support either?? Idk
Love how unbiased this was. I never understood why it's so hard for people to take a look at situations from an outside perspective, especially for these smaller, more insignificant "contrerveries."
Thank you for pointing out the fact that cancel culture only hurts smaller creators. I work with hundreds of artists every year as the department head of Artist Alley at a few anime conventions and I keep seeing this small artists that are a delight to work with every year with fantastic merchandise that will get chased down and verbally harassed by attendees because TikTok has decided that the characters, ships, and/or series that they make merchandise for is "problematic". There was even one time where we had to get an attendee banned and escorted off property by security because they were making death threats at one of our artists over a Genshin Impact print.
Honestly, i think there is a difference between loreal putting an ad that is photoshopped out and them hiring a tiktoker who lies in her ad for them. Because we know and expect that big companies lie in their ads. We know that. But the tiktoker on the other hand is only hired in the first place bc they have a relationship and trust built w an audience, so when they lie, it breaks that trust. Like when we see a magazine ad, we're like ok that's obviously fake, but when an influencer u follow and like says something, ur not expecting them to lie. So when they do lie it's just like okay what's the point of ur tt page then? I understand that an influencer is a brand too, but if their brand is built on trust w their audience, i think it's fair for that audience to be shook when they find out the influencer is a liar
That's a fair point. But also, bigger influencers like the Kardashians are absolutely editing their photos and videos. I think it does have a lot to do with who the person is.
@krazykats2223 truuu, someone like the Kardashians I would consider more like a large brand akin loreal vs someone like the lash girl who pretends to b besties w her audience. Like it seems like she's had this "authentic" vibe she was trying to convey over the years to her fans
Honestly the moment an influencer gets sponsorship you should be wary. It's just another form of marketing. Its an advert. You can never truly know what the influencer feels
Hi 🦆I’m a somewhat new viewer, but binged a pretty good chunk of your videos. Even though I don’t care about a lot of topics your videos are based on (mostly bc I’m uninformed about most of the scandals out there in the internet), I absolutely love the way you approach them. I love your messages and your wisdom (to be honest, I sometimes tear up while listening to you). Edit: To elaborate, your approach to the commentary really touches me, as you don’t become personal about this and breakdown these situations as a set of systemic human behaviour. In the end, it’s not about certain people but about us as humans.
I had *no idea* how much Mikayla actually edits her content until I saw the video Fenty Beauty uploaded of Mikayla getting her makeup done, and it legit hardly even looks like the Mikayla you see online. I've never watched her content, but ive always heard that she always claims to be body positive but she edits the hell out of her photos, but I didn't know she was editing her content as drastically as she does. It's not surprising at all that she lied about the effect of a product she's trying to sell, she doesn't seem to be a very genuine person.
i think one of the reasons why Mikayla gained such a big following was because her reviews seemed authentic. she really made her viewers feel like they could trust her to show whether products and makeup hacks worked. since her viewers trusted that she was not like the "other" influencers, her lying (and continuing to do so) was a shock
Although I agree that we should keep the same energy for the companies and their photoshopped commercials, I feel like... most of us know that they do that already, so we take it with a grain of salt. The issue with Mikayla is that as far as I know, she was seen as relatable, and people trusted her reviews. So for her to be lying like this must feel like a punch in the face for the people that trusted her and bought makeup based on if she recommends it or not. I don't use makeup and I don't follow influencers, so maybe I'm wrong but that's how it looks like to me. edit: not me posting this comment right before I heard Salem say almost the same thing in the video lmao
This is just voiced so beautifully, thank you for your time and work and perspective. Not to get all corny or anything, but it really is nice to see people online who can look at a situation from multiple points of view and also slay 💁♀️. 🦆🦆🦆
I really love the maturity and humanity you bring to these conversations. I think it's rare to see in this genre of video, and it is very much appreciated.
I appreciate creators like you. From my perspective, even though I don't know you personally at all, you seem like a very genuine and honest person. There IS something off happening within the internet about selectively picking who to hate, and I'm glad you chose to speak on that. Seriously, you're brave, and I'm sure this video will start to bring more attention to issues such as these! The more we all communicate both honestly and respectfully with an open ear and open heart, the more likely we are to create a better enviroment. Please keep staying true to yourself. You rock, and so does your makeup. :) ❤️
I feel like most people cancelled him because they were afraid of backlash if they didn’t idk to me it explains why suddenly everyone was suddenly accepting him again and saying how he is the best at reviews etc etc and all over mascara
Girl I was honestly not expecting you to speak as much truth as you did in this video like you were saying stuff that I live by good to know people like you exist
in regards to the video’s title of cancel culture not existing, “the flash” teaser came out and all of a sudden everyone forgives ezra miller. i just feel like this needs to be talked about more
I'm so glad someone is finally actually talking about this because when I tell you I was CONFUZZLED as to why no one was talking about why jeffrey was cancelled in the first place like DID YALL FORGET??
I appreciate what you said about the past versions of yourself so much. Thank you for including that bit. In my journey of self betterment and healing this is such an important message.
4:19 YESSS PLEASE 🙏 would absolutely watch 5 hrs of you breaking this down!! Also yassified Darth Maul is incredible, I love the eyebrow and mouth/cheek pattern the most! Living for the era of makeup as literal art 🎨❤️
i feel you baby girl... know that people will often prefer to see you sad rather than happy, because it makes them feel superior and better about their life... and that sucks, but it's human nature... Don't give too much importance to this kind of behavior, because most of the time it has nothing to do with you, and all to do with them... you're so cute, smart and original and i'm trully happy for you that you re feeling better now
After seeing recent interviews/videos of Jeffree, I can see that he hasn't changed at all. He's the kind of person you want to like because he is entertaining and has a fascinating life but he just can't seem to change his ways.
salem! i’ve been watching your channel for a while. i always appreciate how nuanced and open you are with your perspective. your wisdom and thoughtfulness really shines through no matter what topic you’re addressing and it’s a breath of fresh air. i find this topic so compelling & really appreciate all the work you put into this! && love the look today ✨🦆✨
I would love to see a grwm style of commentary. Your makeup is always fire. I adore your way of bringing many perspectives to the picture and showing a spectrum of ways people may be experiencing the scandals.
33:29 I love your soup philosophy. You've mentioned soup metaphor before in your vids, and I think it's really accuate, It has changed my view on things and thus my life
I just wish people would stop forgiving Jeffree. I will never be able to forget all of the horrific things he's said to and about black women because I can only imagine how traumatizing it must be for those women.
I just wanna say that you are a beautiful, lovely person, and I thank you for expressing yourself in such a heartfelt manner. This was such a strangely comforting video for me. 💜
I only hear truth statements from Salem, she's 100% transparent, there's nothing for anyone to say about canceling or take sides. Get your life together, people. And I watched half of the video in the night & the rest in the morning because you always hear something new & learn something new from someone. So happy for your personal life achievements, Salem.
The answer to why some people get called out and others don’t is simple confirmation bias: they’ve been a fan of someone for such a long time that they would have to admit to themselves they were supporting someone problematic and toxic the whole time and many if not most people are unwilling to accept responsibility for having made a mistake and instead double down to keep their fragile psyche from collapsing
Salem your kindness, authenticity, and caring heart just radiates out in your videos. It’s very apparent that you are an empathetic and genuine person. Please know that you have people who watch your videos that see your wonderful soul. ❤
Thank you for all the work you put into your videos. I really enjoy long content, and I admire everything that goes into them. Also Omg the makeup is a LEWK! It’s so artistic I love it 💕
You tell the truth and also you’re legit such a gentle and understanding voice on here. I seriously watch your videos just to relax! Excellent video, excellent look.
I love your content Salem and your perspective. Please keep doing what you’re doing, you inspire and have such a refreshing POV. Your point of “two things can exist at the same time” is exactly the needed nuance in these conversations. ❤ thank you.
I have no horse in this race, only a 🦆 I actually like to watch your videos while crocheting and I enjoy listening to your beautiful voice, Salem. My opinion on cancel culture is that if it's big enough to be called a culture, it's not going to "cancel" anything. As you said very well, it's all about outrage. When I encounter something I dislike, I forget about it. If it's a nasty person, they are not getting my attention. The end. But the people who get publicly outraged get something out of that, which in many cases is attention that they possibly lack in their real life, sadly. The "hurt people hurt people" adage applies to more than influencers...
Salem, the way you said you felt you had to change at 100:00 makes me sad. I want you to be YOU more than anything. I know I could never be an influencer, I'm so sensitive. You're really special. Keep your essence, eff the trolls.
I have pretty much felt the same way as you, Salem, but my brain tends to be a tangled spaghetti mess! Thank you for taking the time in putting your thoughts into words and organizing it so well. Much love always 🦆💕
I put on your videos to do my makeup and I just have to say I love the way you share such a peaceful yet strong opinion on things like natural life experiences. Your advice is truly refreshing and comforting. Thank you for existing!
One of the biggest embarrassments of my makeup life was NOT being on TH-cam much so I watched the beauty videos of Jeffree Star and Shane Dawson and got caught up in the hype and bought some of the items, and then I saw everything about him and was SHOCKED. Now he is slaughtering YAKS? Yikes. This video is phenomenal, Salem!
I think that people can change, for better or for worse, and obviously people can apologize and truly mean it… but at the same time people still need to be held accountable for their actions. You can’t take things you did / said back, and even if you apologize and mean it, you’ve still hurt someone, and it’s important to make sure people aren’t just let off without any repercussions (wow this got long fast 🦆)
🦆💛💞 love what you said about not letting your past out grown selves be forgotten, holding onto the ways we grew and changed from them and couldn't be where we are now without the growing pains 🥰
Hey Salem, great video as usual, just wanted to share a little tip on how to pronounce Nogueira in case you (or anyone reading) are interested: no-gay-ra This "ra" sounds exactly like the "ra" in "quinceañera" for reference. Nogueira is a surname original from Portugal but also very very common in Brazil. Byee xx
Is beatiful to listen to someone who You admire Saying things like "i love BEING in this body" , "i love BEING me" that feels really motivating to keep working on myself 😌🧡
Salem, this look is so ethereal and otherworldly and you’re such a goddess all the time just had to tell ya ✨also your music is like angelic velvet and i’m here for it~
I think people expect influencers to be more “real” than a standard ad for a product. More people are skeptical of the genuine nature of ad photos and videos, they expect them to be fake. I think people are influenced by both influencers and standard ads, and i think it’s bad for both to be fake, but in the end I think the uproar comes from people believing that their online bestie isn’t lying to them about “this new product they’re just obsessed with”. Imagine the difference between being lied to by your best friend or your principal at school/CEO of your job. There’s like a sense of betrayal I think. These are just my opinions, please let me know what you think if I said something wrong 😅
One individual can’t cancel another. They can speak against another. However, it takes the whole community and fans to decide not to continue to support. Anyone that says Salem or any one person cancelled another doesn’t understand canceling
Let's watch this! I'm sure it'll be very interesting :) Love the makeup btw, "it's a look" as you said, I really vibe with the color match from your nails, top and the makeup
You are so valid for being worried about talking about Jeffree Star in a video... I can't remember when it was, 2019 maybe, I wrote in a comment on Facebook about criticizing Jeffree and his racist antics and had his fans coming at me calling me a Karen and saying that they truly don't care about the racism. Like grown women, married with children, saying I'm the bad guy for bringing up the bad things he's done and for not forgiving him just because he put out an eyeshadow pallet they like. Just truly unhinged things because I said (paraphrasing) "This guy did racist things, so I will never buy his makeup products because I don't support racists."
🦆I also appreciated Jenna Marbles approach because instead of just watching/hearing about the other creators problematic incidents and ignoring or letting it come up on her, she actively took a look at her past content and said herself "this wasn't okay". That's the start of taking accountability so we know she has the range to change lol the others acted real shocked that it existed/was wrong made some type of apology and hoped things keep blowing over if its brought up. Also some people dont have strong discernment to make a "cancellation". If ion like you i wont look you up, unfollowed, no views/not buying your product. Some can't, they feel soooo stuck on the influencer/celeb and dont realize you invest in their worth problematic or not and I want to know that my money amd views won't go to furthering your racism, politics, bad habits, -isms...
Hey, I've been following you for a while ! I've always truly appreciated how you always tried to nuance, get the bigger picture, and tried to understand everyone's point of view. In this day and age, I feel it's getting more and more rare. Even when I didn't agree with you sometimes, I could always feel your drive to have open conversations and debates. I really appreciate what you do and your content.
Thank you for your videos Salem, I truly enjoy listening to your opinion and deep dives into this and other " controversial" topics. I don't get the hype about the mascara thing. Ok, so she lied and put on falsies, no one was physically hurt, no one died. Let's move along! 💜
your advice and insight genuinely opened my eyes, i’ve been in a rough patch and this really helped me rethink my actions and life. thank you sm for being one of my comfort youtubers! i hope to see more vids like this
I agree 100% that she did the right thing. People need to use their common sense when it comes to anything with money involved. They always use fake lashes in most professional mascara commercials. I really enjoyed this video. I always love the looks you turn and a calm voice in the madness is so refreshing. 💞
I totally get what you are saying about people that are latinx being perceived as more aggressive. I also don’t get why they feel so threatened & get defensive. And, I also see it as simply being passionate. I have never been offended by any of the videos I’ve seen from you & I’m pretty sure I’ve been here for A WHILE. Thank you for being yourself & having solid values a lot of people lack these days! 💛 To the person who assumed you weren’t neurodivervent… um, it’s not like that’s a set of specific traits & behaviors. Things show up differently in different people. Whatever the case, no therapist is out here handing out everyone’s diagnosis by just taking one look at you. “Go touch grass or smoke it” ✌🏼
I’m at 600 for my nursetok- never expected a brand to reach out (especially at that few of a following) offered me a pair of scrubs ~$88 AUD and $150 (total) to make 3 videos). So dang! I got a damn good deal!
I personally don’t care about what’s going on the beauty community 😂(I’m not a part of it), but I’m here for you!!!!😩😩💓💓💓 I ABSOLUTELY LOOOOOOOVE your video essays and your format, it’s very smooth and informative. I do think that there are better and more important issues to face, but the internet is this way…. Thank you!!!!💓💓💓🥺
“I can excuse racism, covering up for sexual predators and sending hush money, but fake advertising and false eyelashes is where I draw the line” - The Beauty Community
THAT
STOP FR THO
I literally said the same thing! Like word for word!!!!
so many languages and you choose to speak facts, mate
Oh the irony 😭😭
The people “suddenly” wanting Jeffree Star back have been supporting him the whole time. They were all just silent about it.
Facts
the poor white
Honestly I think all of this situation just proves how, no matter how trivial the drama may be, women will ALWAYS be held to a higher standard than men in the beauty community.
Cancel culture does not exist for men, just like it clearly doesn’t exist for Jeffree Star, James Charles, Shane Dawson, Manny MUA, etc.
Think of all the women who have been cancelled- there are a lot less who have been able to claw their way back to popularity again.
Edit: also 🐣🦆
don’t even get me started on james charles. it just shows everyone’s true colors. how we just forget about him talking to minors🤨? i genuinely thought i was the only one who remembered.
This is the real truth right here
I fully believe people wouldn’t be talking about hairy lipsticks for years if that fiasco happened to Jeffree instead of Jaclyn
Not just the beauty community
not only women, but the minorities in general. cancel culture only works on unprotected layers of society who would have thooought
It’s called “selective outrage” and it’s where people get hung up on one tiny microscopic issue and ignore the HUGE looming issues that are really much more serious
Thank you. When people started stanning Jeffree star. My whole thought is did yall forget how hyprocritical and problematic he is
Jeffrey acting like the yaks will make people forget about the fact he called a black women a gorilla. For real tho it’s concerning how quickly white audiences are willing to forgive racism from large creators.
i never did like jeffrey
* a black womAn. Women is plural.
For that matter, he even lied about the yaks for a while! He said some bs about the yaks being his buddies and only selling the hair or some such… but people did some digging and found he’d already registered company names and domains for yak meat from day 1.
@@sheelfjohnson How many black women did he refer to in that context? More than 1? I have no idea….I sadly wouldn’t be surprised.
@@sheelfjohnsondoesnt matter if he said it to one, the black women who heard it felt it in their souls. the emotional damage is far reaching bestie xoxo
They really said “Damn, that girl wore falsies without telling us, I guess we need to bring back makeup hitler”
Jeffery's standards.:
Calling people the N-word? Ok.
Using false eyelashes? Not ok.
Absing kids? Ok.
spot the difference challenge
covering sexual predators? fantastic!
I love how calm, balanced, and rational your commentaries are. You drop quirky jokes along the way and use your talent for makeup to create eye-catching aesthetics, and both truly add an element of entertainment to the educational side of your videos. I subscribed about a year ago and I'm still enjoying your content! Keep going girl. Love from South Korea :)
Tysm ❤️ i love how people can notice the amount of work i out into all this! Mean a lot
Yesss.
no because how could someone slay 3x more than these big ass creators/influencers (I love you Salem)
I was about to comment a similar thing but you hit it on the head!!!
Some people really just chose to forgive and forget all the atrocities committed by these influencers coming back just to speak on this. Yes, there's legal ramifications for false advertising, but we don't need racists and predators to talk about it. There's more than enough RESPONSIBLE, RELIABLE, AND RESPECTFUL influencers to talk about this situation, like Salem! Moral of the story, just because someone owns a yak farm doesn't make them a saint 🙄🤦🏻♀️
Jeffrey Star, the winner. Unfortunately. He's just ok, but some people try to hard you couple.
Do they forgive or did they ever consider it something wrong to be forgiven?
Yeah Alissa Ashley talked about it in a respectful but firm way not in a passive aggressive shady way from an influencer who has done some messed up stuff
Idk how people can forget the things he's said & done when as of THIS WEEK he's spewed more hateful comments about trans people. He is openly transphobic and said that conservatives like him because he's just "real". I'm glad I never accepted his apology for his past racism, he will always be a bigot to one group or another it seems.
if you're stupid enough to fall for false advertising then that's on u
When people gatekeep neurodivergency it feels like the same thing as people romanticizing depression - like, you don't know what people go through, just STOP. Life is messy for all of us, no one is the main character. Love that you put healthy boundaries up.
as an autistic person, the gatekeeping neurodivergency really gets to me because in of itself neurodivergent is meant to be a diverse label and often when people DO gatekeep they actually just mean adhd or autism. i also just dont get the point of it, like you said i want them to stop
@@peiithos yess I wish people would just say which disorder they mean instead of just neurodivergent like what does schizophrenia have to do with social cues 😭
@@thechumbucket8986 lack of eye contact?
Idk apparently that and listening to same songs on repeat is a thing with both schizophrenia and autism.
Can confirm for the autism, but idk personally about the schizophrenia
idk i feel like everyones the main character of their own lives
@@resoldbaby7687 Hahah, everyone might be the main character, but the main character doesn't have to ruin everyone elses story! Let's all be heroes and not villains - or at least chaotic neutral passerbys!
can we appreciate how stunning salem looks today
Yaas gurl!
Like the symmetry that's talent 👏
Yes, we absolutely can!
@Perfecto real!
Literallyyy
people think YOU'RE aggressive? man youre a hell of a lot nicer and rational than me and even softened my feeling towards the people mentioned in this video... i think you're amazing! you are firm and confident
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The beauty community: I can excuse racism, but fake eyelashes is where I draw the line.
Literally everyone else: you can excuse racism?
Right😂
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@@user45208 u spoke my thoughts
BRO, WHO CARES ABOUT RACISM, LET'S TALK ABOUT HIM NOT ONLY SUPPORING A CHILD S.ABSER BUT PROBABLY ALSO ALLOWING HIM TO HURT THOSE KIDS IN THE 1RST PLACE. Not that racism doesn't matter duh but I feel like people can unlearn racism, but you can't come back from p*dophilia.
Ay community reference #sixseasonsandamovieishappening
🦆I really appreciate the commentary on forgiveness. I’ve always struggled with the fact that people expect instant acceptance of an apology. And then guilt you when you don’t accept…
hey why are you and most people putting ducks and chicks in front of the comment? This is the first video of this creator I'm seeing so I'm interested ^^
@@teodoradjordjevic263 it’s because on her videos she asks her audience to put a 🦆to see if u have watched her video until the end
I’m sorry, all this drama is because of something big name mascaras have been doing for the past forever?? Why do people even take influencers so seriously?
Because the one of the biggest reasons we like beauty influencers is because they're suppoused to be more honest than makeup brands and give us actual useful suggestions on what to buy. At least that's how it used to be...
It seems like a mental Illness, these people praise and worship these people they do not know. I’m a fan of certain celebs/artists, but I also know people are just that, people. They make mistakes and will likely be caught in a lie or two due to greed and not to be shocked if that happens.
@@kamsm.2556 parasocial relationships are quite the predicament for everyone involved :/
@@kamsm.2556 This wasn't a mistake it was an active choice to deceive her audience who she's gained through trying to get them to trust her like at 23:00. Are parasocial relationships at play? Yes, but is the outrage also because people are expecting reviewers (which is what she is not just an influencer) to be honest? Also yes
Part 1 = 6:54
- just an eyelash away.
Part 2 = 14:13
- mixing humanity with the brand.
Part 3 = 23:50
- cutting off accessibility = social safety.
Part 4 = 27:35
- the disappearance then come back of Jeffree star.
Part 5 = 32:21
- the four horsemen of the internet apology apocalypse.
Part 6 = 45:07
- picking & choosing who gets to face accountability & who doesn't.
Random popping off scrolling bit = 49:51
Conclusion? = 55:30
You're incredible! Very sweet of you.
@@noodlepoodlegirl thank you sm!!
This video was a blast honestly I thought timestamps would help☆☆
This breakdown was nice, thank you!
Salem saying "duh use your context clues" every now and then is literally me on twitter yelling at a wall "OMG USE CRITICAL THINKING,,, MY GOD"
Im pretty sure to be on Twitter you are legally obligated to give your brain to them so they can put it in a box
The point about non-white creators not getting the same amount of support/forgiveness as white creators is incredibly valid and I think there's another piece that adds in: The way males in female dominated spaces are treated. I work in a female dominated industry and males are treated like magical unicorns that can do no wrong. I see the same thing in the beauty industry, especially with influencers.
SAME
Hypothesis: these fan bases turn a blind eye because they see their faves as indispensable to internet culture. Internet culture thrives on drama, it keeps the momentum going. Jeffree coming back isn't really about makeup, it's about the him feeding people's insatiable appetite for drama. People who cause this amount of chaos on the internet cannot be truly cancelled, they will resurface at some point. It doesn't matter whether we like them or not. Ultimately, all influencers become a commodity on the internet. Some people understand this and use it to their advantage at the risk of their 'public image', they realize that they don't have to take accountability irl as long as their online persona makes it seem like they do. I honestly feel like minorities, neuro-divergent individuals, POC, etc., should protect their vulnerability online as much as possible, bc few are the spaces that are actually safe.
Great analysis
This is actually a really fascinating hypothesis, ty for sharing! Will have me thinking about this for weeks, almost as much as Salem’s actual video will lol :)
Salem is so frickin wise. Love her take on apologies, forgiveness, and accountability
Being held accountable is truly possible only if the person chooses to do so. Like Jenna, she really did feel terrible for what she did and chose to leave the platform for the better. Then again, some people are just stuck on Money and fame's tit milking it for all it's worth.
THANK YOU for this. Cause I’ve been avoiding this “lash” drama for this very reason! Like ya’ll really letting the Crypt Keeper use this as a comeback?
Maybe it’s different because I’m black but the girlies really jumped back on this like he wasn’t a generally shitty person. I was so confused.
imo i dont really care abt mikaela like it was just lashes. how is that worse than saying the n word and being racist? ppl are really hypocritical yk
@@stargirlabi_111 exactly!
“Crypt Keeper” girl the way I died 💀💀 whole heartedly agree, like y’all just gonna glaze over all the racism and acceptance of predatory behavior ??? No thank you.
Simple.It's bc people say that they r outraged by racism, but really r not that bothered about it, so it hits the same as someone that lies about lashes ...People show you who they r- leaders and followers.Believe them & then decide what YOUR next move will be.
I think it's a mix of different problems - the more time has passed, the more people either forget or its impact is minimised in public memory, and second the fact that Star's problematic behaviour doesn't directly impact a majority of people but rather depends on people having empathy continuously in order to even understand why it's problematic, whereas Mikaela's problematic behaviour doesn't NEED empathy from viewers, everyone can just feel directly insulted that she tried to pull one over them. It's interesting how human behaviour is influenced by feeling personally attacked vs having to put yourself in someone else's shoes consistently.
I noticed this with another issue but in a very different way - more female TH-camrs showed truly passionate responses and anger at the anti-abortion changes in recent past (the Roe v Wade) because it directly affects us, and the same people (who ARE nice and good and aren't being malicious) spoke up against racism, but in a very subdued, speaking-the-liberal-talking-points kind of way, like of course they were sincere in their support, but you also got a sense of detachment due to their distance from the issue. Such a huge contrast between what felt like a true issue vs something that of course they champion but is not personal to them.
All this to say, seems like typical human behaviour 😅
Another thing I thought of - villainy can be forgiven (or forgotten) but affecting someone's pride or ego or being irritating in a regular way is somehow hated more. Think Voldemort Vs Umbridge.
I really think swindlers will be hated more on a personal level than mass murderers because something about being fooled will hit more people more personally and lead to a more visceral and gut based reaction. I could be completely, absolutely wrong about this though lol.
This is the comment right here!!!!
Exactly
you really hit the nail on the head
🦆 i agree mikayla was rightfully called out but the calling out turned into a huge massive deal that allowed worse people like jstar and jc to come back 🤬 they are like a stubborn pimple that refuses to go away
Salem, your videos are honestly a great source of comfort whenever I need to let my boredom out and I'm happy to hear that you're better now
Same… Im just waiting for her own asmr channel 😅 I feel deep in my soul like she would reign Supreme in that lane like she does in this lane.
This video is such a breath of fresh air. Canceling influencers can be such a flippant and performative thing when it becomes this barrage of shitting on creators for such minor things and never ever letting things go. People DO change!! Calling it “Selective outrage culture” really hits the nail on its head. It’s so inconsistent and it seriously harms smaller creators who are genuinely just trying their best and are not trying to hurt anyone.
I also appreciate your take on accepting apologies. It’s how I feel about apologies as well, because I know at least a few examples of people who seem great at taking accountability and apologizing for their behavior or for some type of outburst, but then I find that their words are empty because they continue to make the same mistakes over and over again. It’s like they think that as long as they’re self aware a light to say sorry because they know they acted out, they think it gives them a clean slate every time. But when this becomes a pattern, you have to actively make a change and work on being better in order for people to truly take your apologies seriously.
Y'all not to mention that mascara brands use false lashes in their advertisements all the time 😗😗
Which is why I will still support mikayla tbh 🤷🏽♀️ I shall not support J-Star 😐
@@copiouscat but why support her? i don’t support either of those ppl, but her job is to influence ppl. why would she choose to influence ppl using lies?
@@jinawadi8680 🤷🏽♀️ idk she hasn’t been malicious nor a fuk up person, nor asshole. Her lying and falling into the cycle of purporting deceptive marketing can be forgiven, but J Star is literally not a good person. And I speaking on my “support” is only as far as watching her shorts on YT that’s it I don’t click links or buy anything so there’s that 🤣 support is used very loosely here tbh but yeah I guess you can say I don’t support either?? Idk
@@jinawadi8680cause she’s not racist and that’s rare these days
Love how unbiased this was. I never understood why it's so hard for people to take a look at situations from an outside perspective, especially for these smaller, more insignificant "contrerveries."
thank you for this, im having an awful day and i needed some good content to listen to/watch 💔
i hope your day gets better, sending positive energy your way
GIRL, YES. The way people forgive Jefree Starr so he can drag Mikayla is mind-blowing. I felt gaslit because people were supporting him again.
Salem luciendo como diosa otra vez
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Thank you for pointing out the fact that cancel culture only hurts smaller creators. I work with hundreds of artists every year as the department head of Artist Alley at a few anime conventions and I keep seeing this small artists that are a delight to work with every year with fantastic merchandise that will get chased down and verbally harassed by attendees because TikTok has decided that the characters, ships, and/or series that they make merchandise for is "problematic". There was even one time where we had to get an attendee banned and escorted off property by security because they were making death threats at one of our artists over a Genshin Impact print.
Honestly, i think there is a difference between loreal putting an ad that is photoshopped out and them hiring a tiktoker who lies in her ad for them. Because we know and expect that big companies lie in their ads. We know that. But the tiktoker on the other hand is only hired in the first place bc they have a relationship and trust built w an audience, so when they lie, it breaks that trust. Like when we see a magazine ad, we're like ok that's obviously fake, but when an influencer u follow and like says something, ur not expecting them to lie. So when they do lie it's just like okay what's the point of ur tt page then? I understand that an influencer is a brand too, but if their brand is built on trust w their audience, i think it's fair for that audience to be shook when they find out the influencer is a liar
That's a fair point.
But also, bigger influencers like the Kardashians are absolutely editing their photos and videos. I think it does have a lot to do with who the person is.
@krazykats2223 truuu, someone like the Kardashians I would consider more like a large brand akin loreal vs someone like the lash girl who pretends to b besties w her audience. Like it seems like she's had this "authentic" vibe she was trying to convey over the years to her fans
Honestly the moment an influencer gets sponsorship you should be wary. It's just another form of marketing. Its an advert.
You can never truly know what the influencer feels
Ty. That's exactly it.
Yes! Well put!
Hi 🦆I’m a somewhat new viewer, but binged a pretty good chunk of your videos. Even though I don’t care about a lot of topics your videos are based on (mostly bc I’m uninformed about most of the scandals out there in the internet), I absolutely love the way you approach them. I love your messages and your wisdom (to be honest, I sometimes tear up while listening to you).
Edit: To elaborate, your approach to the commentary really touches me, as you don’t become personal about this and breakdown these situations as a set of systemic human behaviour. In the end, it’s not about certain people but about us as humans.
Sorry if I’m being vague, English is not my first language and, in general, I’m not much of an eloquent speaker.
Thank you so much! I really appreciate it ❤️
@@soon_to_emerge you spoke very well in this comment and I wholeheartedly agree ❤
Well spoken ❤and your English is pretty excellent 😊
I had *no idea* how much Mikayla actually edits her content until I saw the video Fenty Beauty uploaded of Mikayla getting her makeup done, and it legit hardly even looks like the Mikayla you see online. I've never watched her content, but ive always heard that she always claims to be body positive but she edits the hell out of her photos, but I didn't know she was editing her content as drastically as she does. It's not surprising at all that she lied about the effect of a product she's trying to sell, she doesn't seem to be a very genuine person.
i think one of the reasons why Mikayla gained such a big following was because her reviews seemed authentic. she really made her viewers feel like they could trust her to show whether products and makeup hacks worked. since her viewers trusted that she was not like the "other" influencers, her lying (and continuing to do so) was a shock
Although I agree that we should keep the same energy for the companies and their photoshopped commercials, I feel like... most of us know that they do that already, so we take it with a grain of salt. The issue with Mikayla is that as far as I know, she was seen as relatable, and people trusted her reviews. So for her to be lying like this must feel like a punch in the face for the people that trusted her and bought makeup based on if she recommends it or not.
I don't use makeup and I don't follow influencers, so maybe I'm wrong but that's how it looks like to me.
edit: not me posting this comment right before I heard Salem say almost the same thing in the video lmao
🐥 her videos are so amazing and well thought out and planned. You can totally tell how much work she puts into every video.
This is just voiced so beautifully, thank you for your time and work and perspective. Not to get all corny or anything, but it really is nice to see people online who can look at a situation from multiple points of view and also slay 💁♀️. 🦆🦆🦆
I really love the maturity and humanity you bring to these conversations. I think it's rare to see in this genre of video, and it is very much appreciated.
Hey Salem I’m sooo glad you are doing an in depth talk on cancel culture ❤ I’m doing a speech on this topic for school and this helps a lot ✨
you get to do a speech in school abt this? thats so cool
I appreciate creators like you. From my perspective, even though I don't know you personally at all, you seem like a very genuine and honest person. There IS something off happening within the internet about selectively picking who to hate, and I'm glad you chose to speak on that. Seriously, you're brave, and I'm sure this video will start to bring more attention to issues such as these! The more we all communicate both honestly and respectfully with an open ear and open heart, the more likely we are to create a better enviroment. Please keep staying true to yourself. You rock, and so does your makeup. :) ❤️
"go touch grass, or smoke it" really got me. omg. THANK YOU, Salem, i loove your videos! really appreciate your honesty and your way of thinking❤️
Your videos are so chill and cozy like you've gathered us for some tea
Really love your work ♡
I feel like most people cancelled him because they were afraid of backlash if they didn’t idk to me it explains why suddenly everyone was suddenly accepting him again and saying how he is the best at reviews etc etc and all over mascara
Girl I was honestly not expecting you to speak as much truth as you did in this video like you were saying stuff that I live by good to know people like you exist
in regards to the video’s title of cancel culture not existing, “the flash” teaser came out and all of a sudden everyone forgives ezra miller. i just feel like this needs to be talked about more
I'm so glad someone is finally actually talking about this because when I tell you I was CONFUZZLED as to why no one was talking about why jeffrey was cancelled in the first place like DID YALL FORGET??
Thank you for what you do
I appreciate what you said about the past versions of yourself so much. Thank you for including that bit. In my journey of self betterment and healing this is such an important message.
we need a Salem deep dive on bestdressed and the backlash she faced from the YT community/her fans!
4:19 YESSS PLEASE 🙏 would absolutely watch 5 hrs of you breaking this down!! Also yassified Darth Maul is incredible, I love the eyebrow and mouth/cheek pattern the most! Living for the era of makeup as literal art 🎨❤️
i feel you baby girl... know that people will often prefer to see you sad rather than happy, because it makes them feel superior and better about their life... and that sucks, but it's human nature...
Don't give too much importance to this kind of behavior, because most of the time it has nothing to do with you, and all to do with them...
you're so cute, smart and original and i'm trully happy for you that you re feeling better now
After seeing recent interviews/videos of Jeffree, I can see that he hasn't changed at all. He's the kind of person you want to like because he is entertaining and has a fascinating life but he just can't seem to change his ways.
salem! i’ve been watching your channel for a while. i always appreciate how nuanced and open you are with your perspective. your wisdom and thoughtfulness really shines through no matter what topic you’re addressing and it’s a breath of fresh air.
i find this topic so compelling & really appreciate all the work you put into this! && love the look today ✨🦆✨
I would love to see a grwm style of commentary. Your makeup is always fire. I adore your way of bringing many perspectives to the picture and showing a spectrum of ways people may be experiencing the scandals.
33:29 I love your soup philosophy.
You've mentioned soup metaphor before in your vids, and I think it's really accuate, It has changed my view on things and thus my life
We are all...soup.
@@_salemtovar_ 😭 ❤️
I just wish people would stop forgiving Jeffree. I will never be able to forget all of the horrific things he's said to and about black women because I can only imagine how traumatizing it must be for those women.
Love you Salem! Thank you for existing and being you! 🦆
I just wanna say that you are a beautiful, lovely person, and I thank you for expressing yourself in such a heartfelt manner. This was such a strangely comforting video for me. 💜
I only hear truth statements from Salem, she's 100% transparent, there's nothing for anyone to say about canceling or take sides. Get your life together, people.
And I watched half of the video in the night & the rest in the morning because you always hear something new & learn something new from someone. So happy for your personal life achievements, Salem.
The answer to why some people get called out and others don’t is simple confirmation bias: they’ve been a fan of someone for such a long time that they would have to admit to themselves they were supporting someone problematic and toxic the whole time and many if not most people are unwilling to accept responsibility for having made a mistake and instead double down to keep their fragile psyche from collapsing
Salem your kindness, authenticity, and caring heart just radiates out in your videos. It’s very apparent that you are an empathetic and genuine person. Please know that you have people who watch your videos that see your wonderful soul. ❤
Thank you for all the work you put into your videos. I really enjoy long content, and I admire everything that goes into them. Also Omg the makeup is a LEWK! It’s so artistic I love it 💕
You tell the truth and also you’re legit such a gentle and understanding voice on here. I seriously watch your videos just to relax! Excellent video, excellent look.
I love your content Salem and your perspective. Please keep doing what you’re doing, you inspire and have such a refreshing POV. Your point of “two things can exist at the same time” is exactly the needed nuance in these conversations. ❤ thank you.
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I have no horse in this race, only a 🦆 I actually like to watch your videos while crocheting and I enjoy listening to your beautiful voice, Salem. My opinion on cancel culture is that if it's big enough to be called a culture, it's not going to "cancel" anything. As you said very well, it's all about outrage. When I encounter something I dislike, I forget about it. If it's a nasty person, they are not getting my attention. The end. But the people who get publicly outraged get something out of that, which in many cases is attention that they possibly lack in their real life, sadly. The "hurt people hurt people" adage applies to more than influencers...
The intro of the cat is what I used to think animal testing was 😅
LMAOOO
Salem, the way you said you felt you had to change at 100:00 makes me sad. I want you to be YOU more than anything. I know I could never be an influencer, I'm so sensitive. You're really special. Keep your essence, eff the trolls.
I have pretty much felt the same way as you, Salem, but my brain tends to be a tangled spaghetti mess! Thank you for taking the time in putting your thoughts into words and organizing it so well. Much love always 🦆💕
I love how you get people talking about these controversial topics..We really need more people like you, Salem. Sending all my love and support ❤
Unrelated to the topic of the vid, that "nymph" voice you used after the opening sounds shockingly like the singer Bjork
I put on your videos to do my makeup and I just have to say I love the way you share such a peaceful yet strong opinion on things like natural life experiences. Your advice is truly refreshing and comforting. Thank you for existing!
One of the biggest embarrassments of my makeup life was NOT being on TH-cam much so I watched the beauty videos of Jeffree Star and Shane Dawson and got caught up in the hype and bought some of the items, and then I saw everything about him and was SHOCKED. Now he is slaughtering YAKS? Yikes. This video is phenomenal, Salem!
Your voice is so soothing and your makeup skills are literally art. Thank you for the amazing video!
I think that people can change, for better or for worse, and obviously people can apologize and truly mean it… but at the same time people still need to be held accountable for their actions. You can’t take things you did / said back, and even if you apologize and mean it, you’ve still hurt someone, and it’s important to make sure people aren’t just let off without any repercussions (wow this got long fast 🦆)
i thought my jazz music was still playing in a different tab but it just turns out we both enjoy that music as it was in your video bg lmao
🦆💛💞 love what you said about not letting your past out grown selves be forgotten, holding onto the ways we grew and changed from them and couldn't be where we are now without the growing pains 🥰
Hey Salem, great video as usual, just wanted to share a little tip on how to pronounce Nogueira in case you (or anyone reading) are interested:
no-gay-ra
This "ra" sounds exactly like the "ra" in "quinceañera" for reference. Nogueira is a surname original from Portugal but also very very common in Brazil. Byee xx
How long did that makeup take you? It’s incredible
ty!! and about 1 hour
@@_salemtovar_ I read that as 7 hours-
@@Peachessssss13 op lol
Thank you for getting me through these dishes 🐤
You're welcome 😂❤️
Can’t wait to save this one on Spotify! Love your voice 💕🦆
Is beatiful to listen to someone who You admire Saying things like "i love BEING in this body" , "i love BEING me" that feels really motivating to keep working on myself 😌🧡
Salem, this look is so ethereal and otherworldly and you’re such a goddess all the time just had to tell ya ✨also your music is like angelic velvet and i’m here for it~
You are really a walking therapy, because omg how nicely you put on the words, be my big sis please.
I think people expect influencers to be more “real” than a standard ad for a product. More people are skeptical of the genuine nature of ad photos and videos, they expect them to be fake.
I think people are influenced by both influencers and standard ads, and i think it’s bad for both to be fake, but in the end I think the uproar comes from people believing that their online bestie isn’t lying to them about “this new product they’re just obsessed with”.
Imagine the difference between being lied to by your best friend or your principal at school/CEO of your job. There’s like a sense of betrayal I think.
These are just my opinions, please let me know what you think if I said something wrong 😅
One individual can’t cancel another. They can speak against another. However, it takes the whole community and fans to decide not to continue to support. Anyone that says Salem or any one person cancelled another doesn’t understand canceling
Let's watch this! I'm sure it'll be very interesting :)
Love the makeup btw, "it's a look" as you said, I really vibe with the color match from your nails, top and the makeup
You are so valid for being worried about talking about Jeffree Star in a video... I can't remember when it was, 2019 maybe, I wrote in a comment on Facebook about criticizing Jeffree and his racist antics and had his fans coming at me calling me a Karen and saying that they truly don't care about the racism. Like grown women, married with children, saying I'm the bad guy for bringing up the bad things he's done and for not forgiving him just because he put out an eyeshadow pallet they like. Just truly unhinged things because I said (paraphrasing) "This guy did racist things, so I will never buy his makeup products because I don't support racists."
🦆I also appreciated Jenna Marbles approach because instead of just watching/hearing about the other creators problematic incidents and ignoring or letting it come up on her, she actively took a look at her past content and said herself "this wasn't okay". That's the start of taking accountability so we know she has the range to change lol the others acted real shocked that it existed/was wrong made some type of apology and hoped things keep blowing over if its brought up. Also some people dont have strong discernment to make a "cancellation". If ion like you i wont look you up, unfollowed, no views/not buying your product. Some can't, they feel soooo stuck on the influencer/celeb and dont realize you invest in their worth problematic or not and I want to know that my money amd views won't go to furthering your racism, politics, bad habits, -isms...
Hey, I've been following you for a while ! I've always truly appreciated how you always tried to nuance, get the bigger picture, and tried to understand everyone's point of view. In this day and age, I feel it's getting more and more rare. Even when I didn't agree with you sometimes, I could always feel your drive to have open conversations and debates. I really appreciate what you do and your content.
Thank you for your videos Salem, I truly enjoy listening to your opinion and deep dives into this and other " controversial" topics. I don't get the hype about the mascara thing. Ok, so she lied and put on falsies, no one was physically hurt, no one died. Let's move along! 💜
Jeffree is literally one of the main reasons the beauty community became so toxic
I just wanted to say your a huge inspiration for me to start makeup also love the transitions
your advice and insight genuinely opened my eyes, i’ve been in a rough patch and this really helped me rethink my actions and life. thank you sm for being one of my comfort youtubers! i hope to see more vids like this
its illegal being this early, love you salem
I agree 100% that she did the right thing. People need to use their common sense when it comes to anything with money involved. They always use fake lashes in most professional mascara commercials. I really enjoyed this video. I always love the looks you turn and a calm voice in the madness is so refreshing. 💞
I totally get what you are saying about people that are latinx being perceived as more aggressive. I also don’t get why they feel so threatened & get defensive. And, I also see it as simply being passionate. I have never been offended by any of the videos I’ve seen from you & I’m pretty sure I’ve been here for A WHILE. Thank you for being yourself & having solid values a lot of people lack these days! 💛
To the person who assumed you weren’t neurodivervent… um, it’s not like that’s a set of specific traits & behaviors. Things show up differently in different people. Whatever the case, no therapist is out here handing out everyone’s diagnosis by just taking one look at you.
“Go touch grass or
smoke it” ✌🏼
I’m at 600 for my nursetok- never expected a brand to reach out (especially at that few of a following) offered me a pair of scrubs ~$88 AUD and $150 (total) to make 3 videos). So dang! I got a damn good deal!
I personally don’t care about what’s going on the beauty community 😂(I’m not a part of it), but I’m here for you!!!!😩😩💓💓💓 I ABSOLUTELY LOOOOOOOVE your video essays and your format, it’s very smooth and informative. I do think that there are better and more important issues to face, but the internet is this way….
Thank you!!!!💓💓💓🥺