FYI - A tomato plant has one leader. Any suckers that grow are called a branch. You have learned so much and taught so much that I really enjoy watching your shows!
Actually it's perfectly acceptable to call them leaders once they're growing as a main part of the plant. It helps describe the structure of it. It's like with single-leader pruned fruit trees where you can get strong upward-growing branches that if neglected turn the tree into a multi-leader tree. They are branches but they become their own trunk so to speak. So they're both. In New Zealand we call the tomato side shoots laterals, not suckers, whereas suckers are shoots that grow from plant roots or rootstocks. So I find that weird but it just depends where you're taught! 😉☺️
I pruned my tomatoes a couple of weeks ago and accidently broke off a stem with some fruit just beginning. I had room in another bed, so I dug a pretty deep hole, cut off a lot of the lower leaves and planted that one. Crossed my fingers and so far so good, it was kinda sad looking for the first few days, but since then it had perked up and didn't drop any fruit. So, so far so good. That's an option for some of your suckers if you have room for them. Free plants are a good thing!! I did it a second time a few days later and did the same thing with that one.
I'm not even finished watching the initial ad before I slammed that like button solely based on the title- Let's talk tomatoes. YES PLEASE!! 🙌 Let's do that! 🍅
Really enjoyed this video because your explanations were really informative and will be useful for me next growing season. I had no idea we could prune them quite so heavily with purpose. Also, I'm still learning that determinate tomatoes really CAN produce good fruits. ♥️
It is wonderful to see your two families cooperating to make it easier for each other. Well done. It shows true love and friendship. If everyone was to give a good deal as well as get a good deal what a lot happier place this world would be. 🌻💞
You should run a pvc pipe down to the hot house, (or put a quick release on the hose) and put in a small cold water laundry sink so you can wash your hands and tools without having to walk over to the house. You can divert the drain water into the grass. I would also screw a small shelf to the inside of the legs to put your soap, towels, and oil for the tools once they are dried off.
In all my years of gardening i have never paid so much attention to my tomatoes LOL .. I have to say, I'm kind of addicted to pruning :-) who knew??!!!!! I am so excited to see the end results!
Hi Jill in previous episodes you show how to plants tomatoes sucker ...I did on my 4 tomatoes plants that I grow in buckets in my backyard and they doing amazing now I have 8 plants .you inspired me to becoming a dedicated garnerer God bless you always !!
This is super helpful to me b/c I keep pruning every few days but the foliage continues to get out of control! I was concerned I was doing to much pruning as my plants continued to grow, but seeing you do this with fruit thats larger than mine really did help me know I am not doing to much, and actually it will help my plants in the long run. Thanks Jill!!! I am going to head out to the garden and cut a few larger leaders that were 3rd and 4th ones I didnt catch early enough but thought I had to leave since the plants were already established. I appreciate you teaching us!!
I have taken green yarn preferably cotton only since it is compostable and I will crochet a chain. It gives a little more stretch so it is kinder to the plants. It’s also fun to crochet these things in public and have people ask you what the heck you’re doing?!
My determinate tomatoes are CRAZY bushy!! I can't even see through them! 😬 Probably put them too close together...and a little afraid to stick my hand in there to find tomatoes.🤣
Hi Jill, We love watching your videos and are constantly inspired by your spirit. I ordered yours & Jessica's growing gardeners course for my wife as an anniversary gift. Janice loves it so much, she immediately listened to and watched the week 1 lesson. We agreed to pace ourselves and only do 1 lesson a week. 😋 We are putting in the work to grow ourselves where we are and prepare for our next step. We can't wait to watch week 2 and all it has to offer😄.
@@WhisperingWillowFarm i have ever confidence we will learn tons. We pick up something in virtually every video. We offer our prayers for you and your family during your upcoming season of change.🙌
Another great video. Do you think you will do a whispering willow farm hat line? You have great hat sense, I bet you would come up with some great designs.
I'm really confused why you're pruning determinate tomatoes? I get you have to prune the lower branches, maybe some higher to help with air flow... but why the suckers on determinates? Aren't you basically throwing away your determined amount of fruit that way??
It really depends on the weather where u live. I live in a hot and humid climate also and have to somewhat prune to create airflow or lose the whole plant and have no tomatoes.
Thanks for always sharing your heart! And the tomato plants are looking awesome! Mine look great but are slow to produce. I just have a few on each plant. Still trying to figure it out lol
Yes, let's, because I've been having such a hard time with my tomato plants. I figured out most of my mistakes. Got some taking off now but now I'm scared lol.
@@ashleymay5967 I wasn't at all at first. Lol. I'm on a fertilizing schedule now. Every 2 weeks for 6 applications is what was recommended by another gardening channel I watch. And I rotate tomato tone and calcium. Seems to be working so far.
These are cattle panels you can get from your local farm supply, Tractor Supply, or similar store in your area. These are 16' long and 52" tall. www.tractorsupply.com/tsc/product/feedlot-panel-cattle-16-ft-l-x-50-in-h
I need some advice please I have several tomato plants growing in 4 different beds and they are all starting to have leaf curl Any ideas why? I’ve never had this issue before
Here is a great article that explains many reasons for leaf curl. I hope this helps ipm.missouri.edu/MEG/2019/7/tomatoLeafCurl/#:~:text=Leaf%20curl%20is%20a%20frequent%20symptom%20of%20herbicide%20damage.&text=A%20third%20type%20of%20leaf,a%20reaction%20to%20environmental%20stress.
Mmmmm! 🤤 I'd be asking Nate to fry some green tomatoes for dinner 🥰 I have an opportunity to go to Little Rock for the weekend of the 4th but I declined cause I said "if I can't personally meet Jill & Jess then I don't care to go" 😬☺️😂😂😂 my daughter told me I'm star struck with ya'll 🤷♀️ I mean 💁♀️ I kinda am 🥰 ya'll are my besties in my world 🤣🤣🤣 if I were younger, I'd def be up there knocking on ya'lls doors (I hope that don't sound as creepy as it did to me just now 🤪)
Yes that's what I said she cut that whole branch she said it was a 4 leader. And it was a determinate so she should have left it. That will not produce anything more now she lost fruit off that plant. That's why it's called determinate because it will only produce a determined Amount of fruit. That branch she cust just probably lost a bunch or production so don't do that. Only if it is indeterminate.
@@WhisperingWillowFarm Jill, you should pin this comment so people understand your pruning. ☺️ Just watched the Roots & Refuge video where Jess explained what was going on with the tomatoes, so I think it was good decision-making.
Some of my tomato tips of new growth, leaves are thinner and a bit curly. Shoul I be concerned? Lower leaves look fine, color, fine, what could cause? How to treat?
@@WhisperingWillowFarm I hear you, wish we could post photos here...its so strange. It is in 2 of my beds. But not all the plants. I feel like its a deficiency of some sort. Can certainly water more too.
Nate will dig in between two plants 6" deep and feel how damp the soil is. If it feels like there is plenty of moisture then we know we may have some sort of deficiency. That's where soil samples help if you get them done before you start planting. There are so many variables. I would take pictures and pinch off a few leaves to take to your local extension office
They are technically indeterminate- however I’ve found that their growth pattern is a bit unique and they tend to split into Y patterns rather than produce traditional suckers, and some of the small fruit branches actually develop into a crazy offshoot too. They’re a bit wild, but great tomatoes!
@@SimplyStacyL this is the first year growing this variety and I’m in MN so usually don’t have to prune tomatoes as I’ve mostly used determinate varieties and so with this variety, I’m a little nervous- we decided to use a post to tie them to instead of tomato cages and you’re right, they’ve got branches coming that are difficult to tie up. Do you prune them or just let them hang?!
@@MFaith777 I do prune mine, but not as much as other varieties. I typically do 2-4 “leader” branches and let the wild branches produce and tie them up as needed. They don’t look as uniform, but I’ve found they do really well for me (I’m in tx)
Most food pantries want non-perishable for the most part. I know that for me personally, trying to recoup cost from my homestead/farm for my family is my #1 priority.
No you are actually not supposed to prune determinate tomatoes. You said more and bigger fruit if you prune the tomatoes. That's true for indeterminate tomatoes but when you cut that branch of that determinate tomato that was so sad. That's why it is a determinate tomato because it will only produce a determined amount of fruit you actually slow it or cut all those tomatos and lost that whole bunch it will not do anything with you pruning it. You never prune determinate unless sick branches. O that was so sad and then you pulled little Benny's ground cherries she's was leaving them in garden candy.
The ginger is doing amazing and the tomatoes 🍅 look amazing now you can actually see the fruit, well done Jill xxxx
Could happily watch this wonderful lady prune tomatoes and talk about her heart being in the garden ALL DAY.
What a great friend you are! Have a nice evening!
May the Lord multiply your time!
I put suckers in water yesterday to root more plants. I don’t need more. They’re for my autumn garden as an experiment
I just put them right in dirt and let them go LOL. I'm amazed at how they survive!
FYI - A tomato plant has one leader. Any suckers that grow are called a branch. You have learned so much and taught so much that I really enjoy watching your shows!
Actually it's perfectly acceptable to call them leaders once they're growing as a main part of the plant. It helps describe the structure of it. It's like with single-leader pruned fruit trees where you can get strong upward-growing branches that if neglected turn the tree into a multi-leader tree. They are branches but they become their own trunk so to speak. So they're both.
In New Zealand we call the tomato side shoots laterals, not suckers, whereas suckers are shoots that grow from plant roots or rootstocks. So I find that weird but it just depends where you're taught! 😉☺️
I pruned my tomatoes a couple of weeks ago and accidently broke off a stem with some fruit just beginning. I had room in another bed, so I dug a pretty deep hole, cut off a lot of the lower leaves and planted that one. Crossed my fingers and so far so good, it was kinda sad looking for the first few days, but since then it had perked up and didn't drop any fruit. So, so far so good. That's an option for some of your suckers if you have room for them. Free plants are a good thing!! I did it a second time a few days later and did the same thing with that one.
I'm not even finished watching the initial ad before I slammed that like button solely based on the title- Let's talk tomatoes. YES PLEASE!! 🙌 Let's do that! 🍅
🌱 so exciting to see the progress on that ginger 😄
Tomatoes look great. 👍
You and Jess always leave me with such a happy heart.
🌷BlessedBe 🌸
Honey, those are your clusters. LOL
Really enjoyed this video because your explanations were really informative and will be useful for me next growing season. I had no idea we could prune them quite so heavily with purpose. Also, I'm still learning that determinate tomatoes really CAN produce good fruits. ♥️
"always leave a place better than you found it"....Girl Scout motto.
Love your positive vibe! You are such a good friend!
Tomatoes are so wonderful. I love them. They are one of best plants to grow.
It is wonderful to see your two families cooperating to make it easier for each other. Well done. It shows true love and friendship. If everyone was to give a good deal as well as get a good deal what a lot happier place this world would be. 🌻💞
You should run a pvc pipe down to the hot house, (or put a quick release on the hose) and put in a small cold water laundry sink so you can wash your hands and tools without having to walk over to the house. You can divert the drain water into the grass. I would also screw a small shelf to the inside of the legs to put your soap, towels, and oil for the tools once they are dried off.
In all my years of gardening i have never paid so much attention to my tomatoes LOL .. I have to say, I'm kind of addicted to pruning :-) who knew??!!!!! I am so excited to see the end results!
Hi Jill in previous episodes you show how to plants tomatoes sucker ...I did on my 4 tomatoes plants that I grow in buckets in my backyard and they doing amazing now I have 8 plants .you inspired me to becoming a dedicated garnerer God bless you always !!
This is super helpful to me b/c I keep pruning every few days but the foliage continues to get out of control! I was concerned I was doing to much pruning as my plants continued to grow, but seeing you do this with fruit thats larger than mine really did help me know I am not doing to much, and actually it will help my plants in the long run. Thanks Jill!!! I am going to head out to the garden and cut a few larger leaders that were 3rd and 4th ones I didnt catch early enough but thought I had to leave since the plants were already established. I appreciate you teaching us!!
My sister picks her tomatoes green because she makes the best fried green tomatoes. Make you some fried green tomaters.
Love this video so much. Packed with a lot of Motivation and encouragement. Thanks Jill. ❤️
Honey, your ginger harvest will be so amazing to so many! 👌
I am just so happy for you and your family it’s such a blessing and a gift that you’re moving to roots and refuge farm 💜
Jill have you considered growing a sunflower/mixed flower field and contacting photographers and offering sessions in your flower patch?
Great idea
Love that.
The tape we bought in our local Dollaramma.I think you check it out because it is way cheeper there.
Tomatoes look great. Jess will be suprised and happy. Have a blessed day Jill, I like the green tape, I've used green yarn cause I was broke. 💘
I have taken green yarn preferably cotton only since it is compostable and I will crochet a chain. It gives a little more stretch so it is kinder to the plants. It’s also fun to crochet these things in public and have people ask you what the heck you’re doing?!
Happy Thursday!
This was the first year I put an egg under my tomatoes and they are 3 times bigger and fuller then ever. Just starting to set fruit. Can't wait.
My determinate tomatoes are CRAZY bushy!! I can't even see through them! 😬 Probably put them too close together...and a little afraid to stick my hand in there to find tomatoes.🤣
Wonderful Life values to live by Jill. Wish more people had them but glad some people like you try to teach them along the way.
I thought Jessica planted DETERMINATE tomatoes in the high tunnel?? You don't cut suckers off determinate tomato plants Jill.
They are determinate
Did y’all watch the video?
There was a bacteria in the soil that caused an issue so pru8ning the determinate tomatoes was necessary.
"Leave it better than when I found it"
They look amazing
Very educational. Thank you! Gonna go trim my tomatoes now. 🌱🍅
Hello. New sub here. Fromm roots and refuge.
What a gorgeous family you guys are.
Thank you for the kind words and for checking us out ❤
I just came in from the pruning my tomatoes.
Hi Jill,
We love watching your videos and are constantly inspired by your spirit.
I ordered yours & Jessica's growing gardeners course for my wife as an anniversary gift.
Janice loves it so much, she immediately listened to and watched the week 1 lesson. We agreed to pace ourselves and only do 1 lesson a week. 😋
We are putting in the work to grow ourselves where we are and prepare for our next step.
We can't wait to watch week 2 and all it has to offer😄.
Thank you so much for the kind words. I truly hope the course inspires and teaches you something.
@@WhisperingWillowFarm i have ever confidence we will learn tons. We pick up something in virtually every video.
We offer our prayers for you and your family during your upcoming season of change.🙌
Thank you so much for the kind words and positive feedback
Hi Jill
Thanks for explaining how to prune your plants. Also, what brand are your pruners?
I found a Jill on my bootstrap farmer email
Another great video. Do you think you will do a whispering willow farm hat line? You have great hat sense, I bet you would come up with some great designs.
I'm really confused why you're pruning determinate tomatoes? I get you have to prune the lower branches, maybe some higher to help with air flow... but why the suckers on determinates? Aren't you basically throwing away your determined amount of fruit that way??
I think Jill just reduced her or Jessa's yield considerably.
I feel the same! I thought maybe I got it wrong that they were determinate. Oh, well...
It really depends on the weather where u live. I live in a hot and humid climate also and have to somewhat prune to create airflow or lose the whole plant and have no tomatoes.
3%peroxide 8 to 12 tablespoons per gal of water spray tomatoes with pump sprayerwill get rid of blight
Thanks for sharing your tip ❤
Wait I thought she planted determinates in the high tunnel?!?
Ummm me too
She did!
She did... I'm confused as to the pruning 😒
She did. Jill made a mistake.
She explained why, pay attention.
Great job jill
Wow tons of tomatoes
I just love your videos! They’re so relaxing and informative. Where do you get your headbands that you wear sometimes though?
Thank you for the positive feedback.
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It seems like every year I slack on my tomato plant pruning, but I've done a better job this year!🤣
Thanks for always sharing your heart! And the tomato plants are looking awesome! Mine look great but are slow to produce. I just have a few on each plant. Still trying to figure it out lol
I prune one day and then it rained and omgoodness the tomatoes doubled
I need to put my dahlia I purchased in a bed soon!
What is on the ground in the high tunnel? I’ve always wondered what she is walking on between the rows.
Landscape fabric
Pepper plants needed plz
Great video Jill, so helpful with pruning tomatoes. Love your pruners, can u provide the name of them? Ty again for sharing.
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Yes, let's, because I've been having such a hard time with my tomato plants. I figured out most of my mistakes. Got some taking off now but now I'm scared lol.
I am having the worst time this year as well
@@ashleymay5967 My mistake has been not fertilizing enough and I used waaaaay too much peat moss in a mix I made myself.
How often do you fertilize
@@ashleymay5967 I wasn't at all at first. Lol. I'm on a fertilizing schedule now. Every 2 weeks for 6 applications is what was recommended by another gardening channel I watch. And I rotate tomato tone and calcium. Seems to be working so far.
I was having a hard time with mine too. There’s always more to learn in the garden lol Hoping to get mine looking better soon.
I love your pruners what are they??
Looks great!
Mm fried green tomatoes!
Hi Jill, love watching you. Do you plant dahlias from seed?
I did both this year
Question: can you show us the panels your tomatoes are on, sizes and where to get it please? Thx!,
These are cattle panels you can get from your local farm supply, Tractor Supply, or similar store in your area. These are 16' long and 52" tall.
www.tractorsupply.com/tsc/product/feedlot-panel-cattle-16-ft-l-x-50-in-h
I need some advice please
I have several tomato plants growing in 4 different beds and they are all starting to have leaf curl
Any ideas why?
I’ve never had this issue before
Here is a great article that explains many reasons for leaf curl. I hope this helps
ipm.missouri.edu/MEG/2019/7/tomatoLeafCurl/#:~:text=Leaf%20curl%20is%20a%20frequent%20symptom%20of%20herbicide%20damage.&text=A%20third%20type%20of%20leaf,a%20reaction%20to%20environmental%20stress.
Do you use something specific to get the tomato tar off your hands? I struggle with it!
Mmmmm! 🤤 I'd be asking Nate to fry some green tomatoes for dinner 🥰 I have an opportunity to go to Little Rock for the weekend of the 4th but I declined cause I said "if I can't personally meet Jill & Jess then I don't care to go" 😬☺️😂😂😂 my daughter told me I'm star struck with ya'll 🤷♀️ I mean 💁♀️ I kinda am 🥰 ya'll are my besties in my world 🤣🤣🤣 if I were younger, I'd def be up there knocking on ya'lls doors (I hope that don't sound as creepy as it did to me just now 🤪)
Come on, we always welcome guests
@@WhisperingWillowFarm 😂😂😂 I'll be 30 minutes from ya'll if I go 😍 make me a "Honey Do" list & I'll be there fo sho!!! 💃💃💃💃
I thought she planted determinates in the green house? Will pruning hurt the quantity of tomatoes on those plants?
Not if she's only pruning the bottom leaves. If she takes off suckers, then yes.
Yes that's what I said she cut that whole branch she said it was a 4 leader. And it was a determinate so she should have left it. That will not produce anything more now she lost fruit off that plant. That's why it's called determinate because it will only produce a determined Amount of fruit. That branch she cust just probably lost a bunch or production so don't do that. Only if it is indeterminate.
These tomatoes actually have a soil bacteria so we are trying to save as many plants as possible. So pruning was necessary :)
I see that make more sense now! Love you Jill thank you for great content! ❤
@@WhisperingWillowFarm Jill, you should pin this comment so people understand your pruning. ☺️ Just watched the Roots & Refuge video where Jess explained what was going on with the tomatoes, so I think it was good decision-making.
But does that apply to cherry tomatoes too?
Is that a hat with a large brim or do you have a small head? Maybe the angle?
Dumb question really appreciate your content!!
Some of my tomato tips of new growth, leaves are thinner and a bit curly. Shoul I be concerned? Lower leaves look fine, color, fine, what could cause? How to treat?
Tough to say without looking at it but I would be curious what the moisture level is 6" deep in the soil
@@WhisperingWillowFarm I hear you, wish we could post photos here...its so strange. It is in 2 of my beds. But not all the plants. I feel like its a deficiency of some sort. Can certainly water more too.
Nate will dig in between two plants 6" deep and feel how damp the soil is. If it feels like there is plenty of moisture then we know we may have some sort of deficiency. That's where soil samples help if you get them done before you start planting. There are so many variables. I would take pictures and pinch off a few leaves to take to your local extension office
@@WhisperingWillowFarm Never thought of lab testing! Thank you!
@@shervin6711 look into curly top virus and potential herbicide blow-over from neighboring fields or ditches that the city etc may have sprayed.
👩🏽🌾
Do you know if Amish paste tomatoes are indeterminate or determinate varieties because when I look online I see contradicting information?
They are technically indeterminate- however I’ve found that their growth pattern is a bit unique and they tend to split into Y patterns rather than produce traditional suckers, and some of the small fruit branches actually develop into a crazy offshoot too. They’re a bit wild, but great tomatoes!
@@SimplyStacyL this is the first year growing this variety and I’m in MN so usually don’t have to prune tomatoes as I’ve mostly used determinate varieties and so with this variety, I’m a little nervous- we decided to use a post to tie them to instead of tomato cages and you’re right, they’ve got branches coming that are difficult to tie up. Do you prune them or just let them hang?!
We have amish paste growing on a cattle panel and in our experience they do not produce well if heavily pruned.
@@MFaith777 I do prune mine, but not as much as other varieties. I typically do 2-4 “leader” branches and let the wild branches produce and tie them up as needed. They don’t look as uniform, but I’ve found they do really well for me (I’m in tx)
why not give to a food pantry
Most food pantries want non-perishable for the most part. I know that for me personally, trying to recoup cost from my homestead/farm for my family is my #1 priority.
Those dahlias need watered. Not criticizing, just observing.
Can't u essentially just reroot that sucker that had all the tomatoes on it?
Yes you can
:)
No you are actually not supposed to prune determinate tomatoes. You said more and bigger fruit if you prune the tomatoes. That's true for indeterminate tomatoes but when you cut that branch of that determinate tomato that was so sad. That's why it is a determinate tomato because it will only produce a determined amount of fruit you actually slow it or cut all those tomatos and lost that whole bunch it will not do anything with you pruning it. You never prune determinate unless sick branches. O that was so sad and then you pulled little Benny's ground cherries she's was leaving them in garden candy.
It appears Jill is going for quality & not quantity. She mentioned has a buyer for the tomatoes. She can’t sell undersized product.