Very informative video Ron. Its in the top 5% of all motorcycle review videos simply because you took some time to plan it, were articulate and set your camera in a steady spot. Some of the videos out there could give a guy as seizure or stroke just trying to watch it.
@NW3D Yeah I was thinking the same and realized it was true when he started talking about carrying the chain lube. Still a well done and Id say accurate review. I picked one up at 98mi almost a year ago and put 8000 on it mostly single track mine looks like a dirtbike now lol
I was torn between the KLR & the Honda,........... But I have always had good luck with Honda. Honda 650l it is........... Thanx! :). Awesome video...........
que hermosa maquina.. y que bien cuidadita la tiene el tipo este. Un saludo de Uruguay.. y Honda la mejor maquina del mundo. saludos a todos los fanáticos de Honda como yo ..
Great review and talking points i cant wait to get another xr650l. Best bike i ever had. What people dont understand is caveman tech wont leave you stranded. I love my ktm's and huskies for performance but when it comes to an adventure enduro these oldschool aircooled primitive bikes do the trick better than anything else.
Excellent video Ron, much appreciated. You took a lot of time to put that together as a review; but you made it look like it was natural. Well done and thanks again mate!
Just to clarify, The seat height is FINE on this bike. I started riding a 250X, which sits slightly higher and has harder suspension, when I was 5'10", and I never had problems. I recently sold it and now own a 650 Thumper, and I have to say that I LOVE the 650L. The suspension is very soft stock, so it could use a little pumping up for the dirt, and the "deathwing" dual sport tires make sand interesting, but otherwise, I have never been happier with a bike. Loving what you did with yours!
Very nice info, Sir. Thank you. I am in the middle of the dual sport buying decisions right now. I have had 3 XR's in my motorcycling history: 2 500's and a 400. Have loved them all. So like you, I am predisposed to the Honda. My main decision now is used bike vs. new. Really appreciate your advice, information, detailed mods and most of all adding up the mods/budget info. A consideration of mine as well. Love how your bike looks too! Many thanks. Well done!
Thanks R/R for a very good video. Thinking about buying my brothers XRL . Rode it several times and like how solid it feels on pavement and dirt roads.
My XR650L / XR600 engine. 50lbs. lighter but no electric start. I'm at 80% dirt. Basically a street legal XR600. Love reliability. Super low maintenance. Energizer bunny of Dualsports.
Hi Ron, Great vid. great modification points to ponder. At 45, I'm looking to purchase my first motorcycle. I've looked at just about all of them and have done a LOT of pre-purchase research, Dirt, Street, Cruiser, Sport, Classic Retro (Standard), Cruiser, and I keep coming back to the Dual Sport for the versatility. I've been looking at the CRF250L, which appears to be growing in popularity. The primary reason, for me, is the seat height. 5'6" 220lb, I have a 29" inseam and bone stock, with a 37" seat height, the XR650L is jussst a wee bit in the clouds for me. The only remedy that I have been able to find is the following: The Kouba Link is one useful first option, lowering the front forks, the other option would be shaving the seat 2-3 inches. With regard to the rack, I'd probably have to work with a metal fab and machine shop to develop a very useful and practical pannier and top box set for the bike, which would be geared toward commute, grocery shopping and fishing/camping trips. I DO like the hour meter and tach gauge. Considering the combined weight, I figure an adjustable rear shock is probably going to be required. As for the CRF250L, the bike certainly doesn't seem to be a bad alternative, BUT...... For all it's pros, it does have it's share of cons. For me, it's primarily in the way of engine size. I am uncertain whether it is a bike that I would outgrow. I kinda wonder about that part from time to time. I think the 250 is probably what I will end up with, but the 650, with the mods, sure is tempting, too. Perhaps a future acquisition after I've put some time in? IF Honda could come up with a CRF450L that was water-cooled, fuel injected, 6 speed, 250L seat height, with the adjustable suspension, I think the bike could turn out be a darned nice machine for someone like myself who's primary interest is versatility, fuel economy and of course, be more accessible to us shorter stature'd folks. Thanks for sharing. :>)
Hello Twinhit. What did you end up buying in the end? I am curious because I own both a CRF250L and an XR650L. I could have plenty of sound advice based on owning and riding both daily. Anyway.... hope you respond.
@@xrrider914 I'm in a similar situation to the OP. I'm new to bikes, but I've been driving stickshift and fast cars all my life so I feel like I'd outgrow a 250 quickly. I'm trying to decide between the Honda 650 and the Suzuki DR650. I honestly don't like the look of the KLR. I'd be using my bike 50/50; commuting 50 miles roundtrip to work on nice days and also on off-road trails when I go hunting/ camping etc. A lot of people are saying the Honda is more for off-road. Am I gonna eat it if I take a corner too fast?
@@cg9608 Hi Chris. I will try to help a little. If you are new to bikes as you say, and you are planning on commuting AND doing some trails, you would probably be better off starting with something smaller than the 650's. There are other very good dual purpose bikes out there that are comparable to the CRF, but I will stick to only the bikes that you mentioned ok? Here goes : The CRF is a very manageable bike on the asphalt and in the city. You will be able to handle it much more confidently around traffic. It is probably mostly due to the fact that it is much lighter than the XR and the centre of gravity is way lower. It inspires confidence. You will probably have more fun and be safer. I also commute approx. 50 miles to work and I enjoy those rides. I found the CRF lacked some pep. I changed the sprockets (smalller up front & larger in the back) and that helped a lot. Then I bought an aftermarket pipe & presto, more usable power that transformed the bike. It literally transformed the bike! Up to 65MPH the CRF shouldn't disappoint you As for cornering, it all depends on the tires you buy. If you buy some dual purpose tires with smallish knobbies, you can corner more aggressively. But you will then have trouble in the trails. Between the Suzuki 650 & the Honda 650, I would recommend the XR. If you look closely at both bikes in regards to street riding and trail riding, I can't see that the Suzuki has anything at all over the XR, no advantages anywhere. Both bikes are very good though, whichever one you choose. The XR has more power for sure. Dependable as hell. Probably too much bike to learn on in the trails. Learning on the XR on the street should be ok. On the street, commuting and in traffic, the XR is a good bike to learn on but you might actually be safer on the CRF. Think of it this way; if you aren't planning on racing but want to really learn how to ride, and zip around town, do some trails on a bike that will allow you to do so without killing yourself, then a CRF250L would be a good choice. And if you end up outgrowing it after a season or two, then so be it. By then you will know exactly which bike you will need next to suit your needs and preferences. Where do you live Chris? and when are you planning on buying? Keep me posted if you like, I would like to hear about how it goes.
@@xrrider914 Thanks for the feedback! I hear you with the 250, but ive made up my mind and ruled it out. You made a great point though and that is the center of gravity. I see people acknowledge the XR being top heavy. It also sits higher at 37". It's going to come down to comfortability (is the seat too high? The DR is 3" lower...) and power. You said the Honda is faster, but my research shows it at 40HP vs 46HP DR? Maybe it has better gearing, more torque, higher rpms? I'll probably keep the stock knobbies and buy more street appropriate tires. Just change them out depending what I'm doing. I hear you with the safety concern, but the highway/ towns/ hills won't he for a while. I'll be practicing in large fields and empty back roads. I got a truck to haul it wherever to practice! I'm in eastern PA. Gonna buy asap once I decide which bike (Leaning towards honda bc reputation and looks). Found a 2015 with 1.5k miles for $5.5k recently...
I've owned the R and L version and would prefer the R version as the performance differance is significant no matter what you do to improve the L it just isn't as strong.
I just found a 2006 XR650L for $1225., its suppose to have only 800 miles on it. Really looking forward to making it as nice as your! Great vid too thanks.
Hey Ron, GREAT video!! I'm thinking I'm going to go ahead with my first choice from he start. This bike! I'm the same height as you and was concerned about the lowering link sacrificing ground clearance . Not so! I'll have a passenger here and there so I need my feet planted firmly on the ground when she's getting on the back. I also noticed the smog delete was done. I'm 51 yrs. old and dying to ride off-road again! Thanks again my good man!!
just got mine on Saturday. Brand new off the floor at cycle county in Oregon great people over there made me feel part of the family and most definitely be back to finance a bike for the my kids. My dad is 56 and scored a 2001 he needed a riding buddy. Didn’t come with tool kit. Said I didn’t need lol.
Great video I recently bought a 2021 XR650L, and these great videos are giving me lots of ideas to personalize my new bike. I’ve been a motocross guy my whole life and my age is leading me to more mellow riding that includes my wife as a passenger from time to time. Thanks again... Oh, and brand new, my XR listed for 6999
I had the 650R and it's a freakin monster. I like tight trails and it was just more bike than needed, which made it unruly. Plus you need Premium fuel. Going fast in desert or fire roads the bike was amazing. I miss the bike a lot, but have been happy with my xr400.
Love the honda xr my first was an xr 100! But I must say I got a 2006 DRZ 400 and I'm more than satisfied what a few mods I'm hanging in there with all of them
I agree! I got the XR650L because I wanted to take jumps (albeit small ones) at the motocross track. I couldn't imagine a KLR or a BMW doing well on the track or in very rough terrain!
Great points, and thank you for declaring your bias early on! :). As a KLR guy I of course believe it was sent from the Kawi heavens to ride on water and reverse my age...
The XR650 will not be denied! As you know, a monster in dirt- basically hydroplanes over terrain. I strongly recommend going to Blue lake just west of s Tahoe) The road going in (off of 88 I believe) has the scenery of Yosemite and the topography of luguna seca- 6 miles of riding bliss. The trails on either side of 395 north of Lee Vining and south of Bridgeport are heavenly to ride- soil is like oatmeal, with a good mix of rolling hills etc.
Excellent information and advice! I ride the BMW GSA and is so comfortable and while standing it feels so balanced. I also have the XR650L. Although I live the motor this bike is a real odd ball feel bike while standing. It feels like the foot pegs should be lowered as my knees feel to high on the tank. It’s very too heavy. Most cases you don’t need such extreme ground clearance. I’m lowering my XL with the link and shortening the front shocks in the trees. Get the bike down and enjoy a lower stance if you don’t need the clearance. I’m 6’ with a 32” inseam.
+DR Dan I have one, 2012 XR. raised bars up 3" and forward 3" Lowering link, A-LOOP tank/seat/kit, MEFO rear 140/80-18 . 14 tooth up frt and easily change to 13t If I want to trail ride the day. Love the pig and I got 10k miles outta the MEFO, I recommend highly. check it my ch and have a laugh as well :)
Thanks for making the video. I like the dog at the end and the wife saying "Are you sellin' it". I have been considering the KLR but will look into other options now.
Good informative video Ron. Rode a CR250 for years as a kid and now want a dual sport bike. I'm leaning towards the Honda, seat height not a big deal I'm 6'3". Found a few good deals around $4k with minimal miles.
I have a 2008 XR650l. With a 30 inch imseam, I added the lowering link, and the Saddleman Dual Purpose seat. I also lowered the front end an inch and a half by loosening the triple trees. I can ride it much better than before. I love the Thumper!
I sold my XR and bought a Triumph Tiger 800. I'm doing more adventure riding now. I love my Triumph a bunch and it is fast...but...nothing feels as much like a tractor with speed than an XR. I wish I had it back!
The best improvement I made to my XR650L was to replace the 45 tooth rear sprocket with a 50 tooth. This makes the gearing almost perfect for street and dirt.
You would be just right for the bike. I'm 6'4" too, and 210lb and I'm comfortable on the bike. I have 37" inseam and can sit flat footed on it with the stock seat height.
I was looking at upgrading my xt 225 and I chose an 2001 XR 400 that has been dual sported. It is at least 100 pounds less, way better for off road but it is geared a bit to low for the highwsy. I miss the electric start, but boy does it climb hills offroad.
Great video Ron, very focused with lots of good detail! I've been street riding for many years but am looking to get into dual sport and am trying to decide between the Kawasaki KLR and the Honda. I think my mind is made up.
Thanks a lot. you made some good points and comparisons between the bikes, especially the ground to motor gap, that's something I would've missed. Thanks.
Great video! thanks for taking the time to go over all the details...I am looking for a bike now that my wife and i can take on little trips and i can take in the back woods. This really helped me out in my research.
Good video, I've set up lots of DS /mini adv bikes for several customers. I realize it's another price bracket but I like the 690s for bigger bikes and 500 excs for superight.
Nice informative video! I'm just thinking of getting a second bike to start exploring the gravel and light back country. The fuel range is a huge deal, so it's nice to know that all those issues can be addressed at such a reasonable investment price. I just want something that is reliable & light...I was leaning to the KLR mostly due to the fuel capacity. It's comfortable and reliable with a huge fuel range...but I'm not adverse to any of the brands (except BMW for the reason you mentioned)
Baja Designs has a electric starter kit for the R models. Im 53 now and some days wish I had one on my XR650R. Theres a few vids of it on my channel. I run Pirelli MT21 tires. 10% street 90% offroad. Also my aircooled model can trail ride very slow all day while my water cooled one has to keep moving a little faster to stay cool. BUT I live in Arizona Desert 116 the other day. Oh the 2000 Rs are much lighter with aluminum frame no batt or starter no blinkers. Let me know if you have question
Raymond Johansen , I currently have a DR650 but used to have an XR650L. The DR is definitely smoother in every way; engine, ride, and handling. Keep in mind the XR650L was originally designed as a dedicated dirt bike (derived from the old XR600 dirt only model). The DR650 was designed as a true dual sport and it's very good at that. The Honda I had felt much more like a real dirt bike and felt better off road, but not silky smooth like the Suzuki when on the highway. Can't speak for the KLR because I've never ridden one.
Honda made a huge mistake when they shut down a lot of dealers and change over to their Honda Power Centers. Getting parts for older bikes is a pain. Most of the new Power Centers care more about selling cars than motorcycles.
16 years racing the Baja 1000 and the XR has never been beat. Check the overall times and see they beat the 800hp unlimited machines. Nothing faster or more reliable in the desert long races. They switched to the 450 to give the others a chance.
im 6'5 255lbs in full kit and i drive the XR 650R only problem i've had so far is the stock suspension is for someone around 180lbs so ive had to get heavier springs so just find out about that for this bike and remember to include your baggage weight into the calculations if youre gonna be doing touring etc...
After having owned 2 KLR650's and a KLR250, I was tired of the slowness and the doohickey mods on the 650's and lack of off-road capability of those bikes. Plus the weakness of liquid cooling off-road (think stick into the radiator). So I went back to my roots (Z50A 1969) and got an XR650L, 2007. Wow, what a difference. It came already with the Pro-Taper bars, jetted carb and de-smogged, with a DG pipe.The bike will hold 75 on the highway easily with more to go and does really good on trails. I have been holding off on getting another gas tank like a Clarke 4.8 gallon, mostly because of the cost and I have to ask a question here about the tank. Does the Clarke have 2 petcocks or just one? And if only one, do you have to rock the bike over to the left to get the remaining gas out of it?I have a stock exhaust pipe, but when I put it on for quietness, the bike loses all kinds of torque and top end and will only do 65 on the same highway. The DG weighs in at nothing compared to stock, so it's staying on there. I am going to get a rear rack from the internet and some other goodies as cash permits. Would I go back to a KLR? No. The torque and power won me over. Thanks for a relaxed review of your bike.
Thanks for the info, already two weeks ago i buy a 2001 i´m in dominican republic, but i buy like a proyect to restore, the bike is runnig pretty well, but a few things is missing, and you are 100% true in your las comment thanks for share this helpfull Video! And enjoy the bike!
I always said,If I could find an XR650R with bigtank,and E-start,I would own one,I dont mean a cobbled together starter,Factory E-start.Its got more power than almost all 650 singles,once its uncorked.
Hey good video & good choice for a dual sport bike. Like your up grades you may want to think about getting a dry battery & mounting it under the seat than you can get rid of the heavy wet one & the metal box it's in & ignitioin. That would get rid of more weight. Your bike is good choice for someone that does 80 percent of riding off road which is what I like to do the most. Nice bike!
I too have come to the conclusion that the XR650 is the dual sport for me. For those of you who want the hand guards with the turn signal indicators built in to them... Look up "Zeta Racing XC Flasher" I too have come to the conclusion that the XR650 is the dual sport for me. For those of you who want the hand guards with the turn signal indicators built in to them... Look up "Zeta Racing XC flasher"
any concerns with gas tank discoloration. I've seen some white tanks that turn yellow after some time. I would hate to have to change out a good tank just because it started looking bad.
Jake, the l is the street legal version that came out in 93. The r came out in 2000 and its the dirt only version- aluminum frame, kick start, a little lighter
When you did lowering links did you have to compensate the front fork springs so that the front isn't sitting higher now and making front end lighter wich will also change CG please let me know because ive been wondering about that because I want to lower mine about an inch
I bought the same lowering link (kouba link) and it says on there site you should bring up the forks about 1". I brought my forks up about 7/8" because you'll see why you shouldn't go anything pass that because the fork gets to narrow and the triple clamps does not go around it well. Kouba is the way to go for lowering links, Even though there little more there totally worth the quality and having the grease fittings. The cheaper ones you see on ebay don't have grease fittings built in and the quality is noticeable different.
The L model yes but that was made for daily work and such with a very tame engine. For the people who don't want or cant handle the Rs power. The Rs have never been beat in a Baja. Ive never seen a DR in the winners circle for big bore bikes.
The bike comes ready for two up riding with buddy pegs and springs to match. But it is somehow extremely compliant in the rocks and holds itself up in the stroke at speed. The stock suspension is one of the best features of these bikes.
Great review. Thanks for taking the time to create it. I'm in the market for dual sport. I've been eyeballing the DRZ 400 as I'm mostly 80% dirt. I really need to keep an eye on weight, + DRZ has low acquisition costs. Any thoughts?
Very informative video Ron. Its in the top 5% of all motorcycle review videos simply because you took some time to plan it, were articulate and set your camera in a steady spot. Some of the videos out there could give a guy as seizure or stroke just trying to watch it.
One of the classiest, most professional and informative videos on youtube. Thanks for a job well done!
@NW3D Yeah I was thinking the same and realized it was true when he started talking about carrying the chain lube. Still a well done and Id say accurate review. I picked one up at 98mi almost a year ago and put 8000 on it mostly single track mine looks like a dirtbike now lol
I agree!
That is the cleanest Honda Xr I have ever seen. Good work in your presentation of the bike.
Bruce Mcmurtrie No doubt, I was thinking the same thing.
I was torn between the KLR & the Honda,........... But I have always had good luck with Honda. Honda 650l it is........... Thanx! :). Awesome video...........
que hermosa maquina.. y que bien cuidadita la tiene el tipo este. Un saludo de Uruguay.. y Honda la mejor maquina del mundo. saludos a todos los fanáticos de Honda como yo ..
Great review and talking points i cant wait to get another xr650l. Best bike i ever had. What people dont understand is caveman tech wont leave you stranded. I love my ktm's and huskies for performance but when it comes to an adventure enduro these oldschool aircooled primitive bikes do the trick better than anything else.
thx Ron, despite the age of this video and the number of others since, this is the best enduro review I've seen re the Honda. Much appreciated.
I'm a Honda guy, so Honda it is
Excellent video Ron, much appreciated. You took a lot of time to put that together as a review; but you made it look like it was natural. Well done and thanks again mate!
Just to clarify, The seat height is FINE on this bike. I started riding a 250X, which sits slightly higher and has harder suspension, when I was 5'10", and I never had problems. I recently sold it and now own a 650 Thumper, and I have to say that I LOVE the 650L. The suspension is very soft stock, so it could use a little pumping up for the dirt, and the "deathwing" dual sport tires make sand interesting, but otherwise, I have never been happier with a bike. Loving what you did with yours!
Very nice info, Sir. Thank you. I am in the middle of the dual sport buying decisions right now. I have had 3 XR's in my motorcycling history: 2 500's and a 400. Have loved them all. So like you, I am predisposed to the Honda. My main decision now is used bike vs. new. Really appreciate your advice, information, detailed mods and most of all adding up the mods/budget info. A consideration of mine as well. Love how your bike looks too! Many thanks. Well done!
Thanks R/R for a very good video. Thinking about buying my brothers XRL . Rode it several times and like how solid it feels on pavement and dirt roads.
That's exactly what I did to make my xr400 run perfect! Two notches from the top with a 58 and a 60. Clean bike!
Nice clean bike with sensible mods. God knows I love a good rack!
My XR650L / XR600 engine. 50lbs. lighter but no electric start. I'm at 80% dirt. Basically a street legal XR600. Love reliability. Super low maintenance. Energizer bunny of Dualsports.
Hi Ron, Great vid. great modification points to ponder.
At 45, I'm looking to purchase my first motorcycle. I've looked at just about all of them and have done a LOT of pre-purchase research, Dirt, Street, Cruiser, Sport, Classic Retro (Standard), Cruiser, and I keep coming back to the Dual Sport for the versatility.
I've been looking at the CRF250L, which appears to be growing in popularity. The primary reason, for me, is the seat height. 5'6" 220lb, I have a 29" inseam and
bone stock, with a 37" seat height, the XR650L is jussst a wee bit in the clouds for me.
The only remedy that I have been able to find is the following:
The Kouba Link is one useful first option, lowering the front forks, the other option would be shaving the seat 2-3 inches.
With regard to the rack, I'd probably have to work with a metal fab and machine shop to develop a very useful and practical pannier and top box set for the bike, which would be geared toward commute, grocery shopping and fishing/camping trips.
I DO like the hour meter and tach gauge.
Considering the combined weight, I figure an adjustable rear shock is probably going to be required.
As for the CRF250L, the bike certainly doesn't seem to be a bad alternative, BUT......
For all it's pros, it does have it's share of cons. For me, it's primarily in the way of engine size. I am uncertain whether it is a bike that I would outgrow. I kinda wonder about that part from time to time. I think the 250 is probably what I will end up with,
but the 650, with the mods, sure is tempting, too. Perhaps a future acquisition after
I've put some time in?
IF Honda could come up with a CRF450L that was water-cooled, fuel injected, 6 speed, 250L seat height, with the adjustable suspension, I think the bike could turn out be a
darned nice machine for someone like myself who's primary interest is versatility, fuel
economy and of course, be more accessible to us shorter stature'd folks.
Thanks for sharing. :>)
Twinhit did you ever buy a bike?
Hello Twinhit. What did you end up buying in the end? I am curious because I own both a CRF250L and an XR650L. I could have plenty of sound advice based on owning and riding both daily. Anyway.... hope you respond.
@@xrrider914 I'm in a similar situation to the OP. I'm new to bikes, but I've been driving stickshift and fast cars all my life so I feel like I'd outgrow a 250 quickly. I'm trying to decide between the Honda 650 and the Suzuki DR650. I honestly don't like the look of the KLR. I'd be using my bike 50/50; commuting 50 miles roundtrip to work on nice days and also on off-road trails when I go hunting/ camping etc. A lot of people are saying the Honda is more for off-road. Am I gonna eat it if I take a corner too fast?
@@cg9608 Hi Chris. I will try to help a little. If you are new to bikes as you say, and you are planning on commuting AND doing some trails, you would probably be better off starting with something smaller than the 650's. There are other very good dual purpose bikes out there that are comparable to the CRF, but I will stick to only the bikes that you mentioned ok? Here goes :
The CRF is a very manageable bike on the asphalt and in the city. You will be able to handle it much more confidently around traffic. It is probably mostly due to the fact that it is much lighter than the XR and the centre of gravity is way lower. It inspires confidence. You will probably have more fun and be safer. I also commute approx. 50 miles to work and I enjoy those rides. I found the CRF lacked some pep. I changed the sprockets (smalller up front & larger in the back) and that helped a lot. Then I bought an aftermarket pipe & presto, more usable power that transformed the bike. It literally transformed the bike! Up to 65MPH the CRF shouldn't disappoint you As for cornering, it all depends on the tires you buy. If you buy some dual purpose tires with smallish knobbies, you can corner more aggressively. But you will then have trouble in the trails.
Between the Suzuki 650 & the Honda 650, I would recommend the XR. If you look closely at both bikes in regards to street riding and trail riding, I can't see that the Suzuki has anything at all over the XR, no advantages anywhere. Both bikes are very good though, whichever one you choose. The XR has more power for sure. Dependable as hell. Probably too much bike to learn on in the trails. Learning on the XR on the street should be ok. On the street, commuting and in traffic, the XR is a good bike to learn on but you might actually be safer on the CRF.
Think of it this way; if you aren't planning on racing but want to really learn how to ride, and zip around town, do some trails on a bike that will allow you to do so without killing yourself, then a CRF250L would be a good choice. And if you end up outgrowing it after a season or two, then so be it. By then you will know exactly which bike you will need next to suit your needs and preferences. Where do you live Chris? and when are you planning on buying? Keep me posted if you like, I would like to hear about how it goes.
@@xrrider914 Thanks for the feedback! I hear you with the 250, but ive made up my mind and ruled it out. You made a great point though and that is the center of gravity. I see people acknowledge the XR being top heavy. It also sits higher at 37".
It's going to come down to comfortability (is the seat too high? The DR is 3" lower...) and power. You said the Honda is faster, but my research shows it at 40HP vs 46HP DR? Maybe it has better gearing, more torque, higher rpms?
I'll probably keep the stock knobbies and buy more street appropriate tires. Just change them out depending what I'm doing. I hear you with the safety concern, but the highway/ towns/ hills won't he for a while. I'll be practicing in large fields and empty back roads. I got a truck to haul it wherever to practice! I'm in eastern PA. Gonna buy asap once I decide which bike (Leaning towards honda bc reputation and looks). Found a 2015 with 1.5k miles for $5.5k recently...
"your're selling it?" lol now that was funny! glad you didn't edit that out
I've owned the R and L version and would prefer the R version as the performance differance is significant no matter what you do to improve the L it just isn't as strong.
didn't know there is a diff between the 650L and 650R?
*600R
I wish all my hobbies had useful videos like this. Thanks for taking the time to make the vid.
I just found a 2006 XR650L for $1225., its suppose to have only 800 miles on it. Really looking forward to making it as nice as your! Great vid too thanks.
Hey Ron, GREAT video!! I'm thinking I'm going to go ahead with my first choice from he start. This bike! I'm the same height as you and was concerned about the lowering link sacrificing ground clearance . Not so! I'll have a passenger here and there so I need my feet planted firmly on the ground when she's getting on the back. I also noticed the smog delete was done. I'm 51 yrs. old and dying to ride off-road again! Thanks again my good man!!
just got mine on Saturday. Brand new off the floor at cycle county in Oregon great people over there made me feel part of the family and most definitely be back to finance a bike for the my kids. My dad is 56 and scored a 2001 he needed a riding buddy. Didn’t come with tool kit. Said I didn’t need lol.
Great video
I recently bought a 2021 XR650L, and these great videos are giving me lots of ideas to personalize my new bike.
I’ve been a motocross guy my whole life and my age is leading me to more mellow riding that includes my wife as a passenger from time to time.
Thanks again...
Oh, and brand new, my XR listed for 6999
Ive had a Xr400 for years and luv it (sank it in a stream and it started up in 20 min) Now im getting the XR650L
I had the 650R and it's a freakin monster. I like tight trails and it was just more bike than needed, which made it unruly. Plus you need Premium fuel. Going fast in desert or fire roads the bike was amazing. I miss the bike a lot, but have been happy with my xr400.
Thanks Ron, well done. Keeping my DR650 for height reasons, but the XR is a classic.
Dual sported xr650r for the win!!!
Great review Ron , and a great bike too . Honda is for me the best choice . Honda XR400 is my preference
Love the honda xr my first was an xr 100! But I must say I got a 2006 DRZ 400 and I'm more than satisfied what a few mods I'm hanging in there with all of them
Ron, Thanks for your response. The Tiger is a nice bike! Our mammoth, Tahoe etc trip was a blast. We adventured out by hwy, trail, sea!
smart guy. I'm going to buy a 1994 xr650l today for 1800 in excellent condition. I'm looking foward to it
I agree! I got the XR650L because I wanted to take jumps (albeit small ones) at the motocross track. I couldn't imagine a KLR or a BMW doing well on the track or in very rough terrain!
wife thought you sold it! LOL
I really like your videos, you are very concise and have a good fast pace. Please do more!
Great points, and thank you for declaring your bias early on! :). As a KLR guy I of course believe it was sent from the Kawi heavens to ride on water and reverse my age...
The XR650 will not be denied! As you know, a monster in dirt- basically hydroplanes over terrain. I strongly recommend going to Blue lake just west of s Tahoe) The road going in (off of 88 I believe) has the scenery of Yosemite and the topography of luguna seca- 6 miles of riding bliss. The trails on either side of 395 north of Lee Vining and south of Bridgeport are heavenly to ride- soil is like oatmeal, with a good mix of rolling hills etc.
Excellent information and advice! I ride the BMW GSA and is so comfortable and while standing it feels so balanced. I also have the XR650L. Although I live the motor this bike is a real odd ball feel bike while standing. It feels like the foot pegs should be lowered as my knees feel to high on the tank. It’s very too heavy. Most cases you don’t need such extreme ground clearance. I’m lowering my XL with the link and shortening the front shocks in the trees. Get the bike down and enjoy a lower stance if you don’t need the clearance. I’m 6’ with a 32” inseam.
I already sold the bike. I was thinking about a Honda XLR 650. Which is what brought me to this video.
Great video Ron . I've been looking at the KLR and the XR and I think you may have made the decision for me. Thank you!
+DR Dan Don't DR, XR :))
+twing21able but get the lowering Lnk
+DR Dan I have one, 2012 XR. raised bars up 3" and forward 3" Lowering link, A-LOOP tank/seat/kit, MEFO rear 140/80-18 . 14 tooth up frt and easily change to 13t If I want to trail ride the day. Love the pig and I got 10k miles outta the MEFO, I recommend highly. check it my ch and have a laugh as well :)
Thanks for making the video. I like the dog at the end and the wife saying "Are you sellin' it". I have been considering the KLR but will look into other options now.
Good informative video Ron. Rode a CR250 for years as a kid and now want a dual sport bike. I'm leaning towards the Honda, seat height not a big deal I'm 6'3". Found a few good deals around $4k with minimal miles.
I have a 2008 XR650l. With a 30 inch imseam, I added the lowering link, and the Saddleman Dual Purpose seat. I also lowered the front end an inch and a half by loosening the triple trees. I can ride it much better than before. I love the Thumper!
I sold my XR and bought a Triumph Tiger 800. I'm doing more adventure riding now. I love my Triumph a bunch and it is fast...but...nothing feels as much like a tractor with speed than an XR. I wish I had it back!
I watch this over and over, great vid!
Thank you for the great info- really appreciate it. Doing a bishop-yocemite-mammoth-Tahoe run next week, mainly offroad. Happy riding to you!!
The best improvement I made to my XR650L was to replace the 45 tooth rear sprocket with a 50 tooth. This makes the gearing almost perfect for street and dirt.
Very nice review. Great bike in fine condition
You would be just right for the bike. I'm 6'4" too, and 210lb and I'm comfortable on the bike. I have 37" inseam and can sit flat footed on it with the stock seat height.
Thank You Sir!!!Very Good News…I just purchased a 2019 XR Honda L..Love you Bike Snd Miss…Safe Riding..God Bless
I was looking at upgrading my xt 225 and I chose an 2001 XR 400 that has been dual sported. It is at least 100 pounds less, way better for off road but it is geared a bit to low for the highwsy. I miss the electric start, but boy does it climb hills offroad.
Great video - solid bike - XR 650 will always be my favorite bike 👍🏼
Great video Ron, very focused with lots of good detail! I've been street riding for many years but am looking to get into dual sport and am trying to decide between the Kawasaki KLR and the Honda. I think my mind is made up.
Thanks a lot. you made some good points and comparisons between the bikes, especially the ground to motor gap, that's something I would've missed. Thanks.
Thanks Ron. I'm getting that XR fever now...
Robert DeMilo I've had the same fever! All year long. I'm going to get my own in December ! Will update
Great presentation and awesome points! Thanks much!
Hello. After putting the kuba link in did you lower the front end or is it fine the way it is? Let me know I'm very curious.
Great video! thanks for taking the time to go over all the details...I am looking for a bike now that my wife and i can take on little trips and i can take in the back woods. This really helped me out in my research.
Really really nice bike and setup. that's exactly how i want my xr650 to be set up.
Thanks for the video. Lots of good information.
Total envy. Love your bike and all it's improvements!
Nice bike, thanks for the taking the time to walk through everything!
Those front turn signals are so darn cool!!! Thanks for the tips! I luv my 2008 xr400l
Good video, I've set up lots of DS /mini adv bikes for several customers. I realize it's another price bracket but I like the 690s for bigger bikes and 500 excs for superight.
Really enjoyed the info , great job, and tks for sharing the prices. Your pouchie just added flavor to the vid, realcute.
Nice informative video! I'm just thinking of getting a second bike to start exploring the gravel and light back country. The fuel range is a huge deal, so it's nice to know that all those issues can be addressed at such a reasonable investment price.
I just want something that is reliable & light...I was leaning to the KLR mostly due to the fuel capacity. It's comfortable and reliable with a huge fuel range...but I'm not adverse to any of the brands (except BMW for the reason you mentioned)
Good video. I have a YAMAHA WR450 street legal and I am thinking about switching to the Honda XRL650 since I am 70% road. Thanks for sharing,
Baja Designs has a electric starter kit for the R models. Im 53 now and some days wish I had one on my XR650R. Theres a few vids of it on my channel. I run Pirelli MT21 tires. 10% street 90% offroad. Also my aircooled model can trail ride very slow all day while my water cooled one has to keep moving a little faster to stay cool. BUT I live in Arizona Desert 116 the other day. Oh the 2000 Rs are much lighter with aluminum frame no batt or starter no blinkers. Let me know if you have question
iv owned drz400, dr650, klr650, and yz450f plated. I wanna give the ol XR a try!!
Raymond Johansen , I currently have a DR650 but used to have an XR650L. The DR is definitely smoother in every way; engine, ride, and handling. Keep in mind the XR650L was originally designed as a dedicated dirt bike (derived from the old XR600 dirt only model). The DR650 was designed as a true dual sport and it's very good at that. The Honda I had felt much more like a real dirt bike and felt better off road, but not silky smooth like the Suzuki when on the highway. Can't speak for the KLR because I've never ridden one.
great review. picking my 650l up tomorrow
AWESOME review!!! Thanks!!! Does anyone ever install "back-rests" on any "dual sport bikes?!..... Just askin'?...
Excellent video and information.
Your voice makes me think Peter Strauss is talking...especially the last minute lol!
Thanks for posting this.
Finally bought my XR 650L. 2000 with 12000 miles. Now ready to join RocRatz. Need sticker
Honda made a huge mistake when they shut down a lot of dealers and change over to their Honda Power Centers. Getting parts for older bikes is a pain. Most of the new Power Centers care more about selling cars than motorcycles.
16 years racing the Baja 1000 and the XR has never been beat. Check the overall times and see they beat the 800hp unlimited machines. Nothing faster or more reliable in the desert long races. They switched to the 450 to give the others a chance.
BRP destroys all
im 6'5 255lbs in full kit and i drive the XR 650R only problem i've had so far is the stock suspension is for someone around 180lbs so ive had to get heavier springs so just find out about that for this bike and remember to include your baggage weight into the calculations if youre gonna be doing touring etc...
Thanks. I sold my XR and got a Triumph Tiger 800. I think I,m gonna do a video about it.
Very helpful comparison and accessories overview! Thanks!
After having owned 2 KLR650's and a KLR250, I was tired of the slowness and the doohickey mods on the 650's and lack of off-road capability of those bikes. Plus the weakness of liquid cooling off-road (think stick into the radiator). So I went back to my roots (Z50A 1969) and got an XR650L, 2007. Wow, what a difference. It came already with the Pro-Taper bars, jetted carb and de-smogged, with a DG pipe.The bike will hold 75 on the highway easily with more to go and does really good on trails. I have been holding off on getting another gas tank like a Clarke 4.8 gallon, mostly because of the cost and I have to ask a question here about the tank. Does the Clarke have 2 petcocks or just one? And if only one, do you have to rock the bike over to the left to get the remaining gas out of it?I have a stock exhaust pipe, but when I put it on for quietness, the bike loses all kinds of torque and top end and will only do 65 on the same highway. The DG weighs in at nothing compared to stock, so it's staying on there. I am going to get a rear rack from the internet and some other goodies as cash permits. Would I go back to a KLR? No. The torque and power won me over. Thanks for a relaxed review of your bike.
Thanks for the info, already two weeks ago i buy a 2001 i´m in dominican republic, but i buy like a proyect to restore, the bike is runnig pretty well, but a few things is missing, and you are 100% true in your las comment thanks for share this helpfull Video!
And enjoy the bike!
Thank you. Excellent guidance and commentary !
still have the xr650l? thoughts or updates to mods mentioned in the vid?
I always said,If I could find an XR650R with bigtank,and E-start,I would own one,I dont mean a
cobbled together starter,Factory E-start.Its got more power than almost all 650 singles,once its uncorked.
wow great video and break down!! thanks
I'm just saying that the Honda seems to be able to actually perform well on the dirt...unlike a lot of other dual sports.
Hey good video & good choice for a dual sport bike. Like your up grades you may want to think about getting a dry battery & mounting it under the seat than you can get rid of the heavy wet one & the metal box it's in & ignitioin. That would get rid of more weight. Your bike is good choice for someone that does 80 percent of riding off road which is what I like to do the most. Nice bike!
Fabulous review and well put together bike. It would be the one that I would want to buy!
I too have come to the conclusion that the XR650 is the dual sport for me.
For those of you who want the hand guards with the turn signal indicators built in to them...
Look up "Zeta Racing XC Flasher"
I too have come to the conclusion that the XR650 is the dual sport for me.
For those of you who want the hand guards with the turn signal indicators built in to them...
Look up "Zeta Racing XC flasher"
any concerns with gas tank discoloration. I've seen some white tanks that turn yellow after some time. I would hate to have to change out a good tank just because it started looking bad.
What did you do in order for both front and rear LED turn signals to operate correctly?
Very nice video, thank you. I hope you are enjoying your bike!
Jake, the l is the street legal version that came out in 93. The r came out in 2000 and its the dirt only version- aluminum frame, kick start, a little lighter
Like those blinkers and mirrors.
Thanks just what I needed
When you did lowering links did you have to compensate the front fork springs so that the front isn't sitting higher now and making front end lighter wich will also change CG please let me know because ive been wondering about that because I want to lower mine about an inch
I bought the same lowering link (kouba link) and it says on there site you should bring up the forks about 1". I brought my forks up about 7/8" because you'll see why you shouldn't go anything pass that because the fork gets to narrow and the triple clamps does not go around it well. Kouba is the way to go for lowering links, Even though there little more there totally worth the quality and having the grease fittings. The cheaper ones you see on ebay don't have grease fittings built in and the quality is noticeable different.
great set up i love the dash!
Hi Ron, 9 years later, are you still happy with the jetting? I’m in Colorado too and plan to ride in the front range foothills a lot. Thanks
great setup! thank you for your ideas.. i`m ridind a 1992 dr 650,love it to death do us part... haha, ride safe brother, happy trails....
The L model yes but that was made for daily work and such with a very tame engine. For the people who don't want or cant handle the Rs power. The Rs have never been beat in a Baja. Ive never seen a DR in the winners circle for big bore bikes.
Great video! I've heard a lot the stock suspension is pretty soft. Have you found this to be true or have you made any modifications to your bike?
The bike comes ready for two up riding with buddy pegs and springs to match. But it is somehow extremely compliant in the rocks and holds itself up in the stroke at speed. The stock suspension is one of the best features of these bikes.
Great review. Thanks for taking the time to create it. I'm in the market for dual sport. I've been eyeballing the DRZ 400 as I'm mostly 80% dirt. I really need to keep an eye on weight, + DRZ has low acquisition costs. Any thoughts?
Get that drz400