Is Joni Eareckson Tada Right that God Doesn't Tell Us Messages Directly? - Bob Wilkin
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 30 ก.ย. 2024
- Joni Eareckson Tada warns against the belief that God gives directions outside of the Bible. Bob Wilkin of the Grace Evangelical Society asks whether Joni Eareckson Tada is correct, and advises where one should be looking to for guidance and direction in one's life.
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3 T’s, use our Time, Talent and Treasure for the Lord, doing our best for Him.
Colossians 3:23-24 - Whatever you do, do your work heartily, as for the Lord rather than for men, knowing that from the Lord you will receive the reward of the inheritance. It is the Lord Christ whom you serve.
Proverbs 3:6 - In all your ways acknowledge Him, And He will make your paths straight.
There is so much nonsense to hear and see in the religious world that a video like this is refreshing.
Galatians 5:1:
Stand fast therefore in the liberty with which Christ has made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage.
Galatians 5:13:
For, brethren, you have been called unto liberty; only use not liberty for an occasion to the flesh, but by love serve one another.
"Thus says the Lord" is the way the prophets from OT spoke. We now live in the time of the mystery. Christ is made for us to visdom.
1 Corinthians 1:30:
And of him are you in Christ Jesus, who of God is made unto us
wisdom, and
righteousness, and sanctification, and
redemption:
Never do evil.
Romans 12:2:
And be not conformed to this world: but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, that you may prove
what is that
good, and
acceptable, and
perfect, will of God.
What is it you're affirming- specifically , precisely , without exception - one must Necessarily believe and Perform till death in order to be born again with irrevocable Everlasting Life to enter His Kingdom ?
Thanks .
God speaks thru his Word. That’s it!
That's not the teaching of the biblical authors.
@@Liminalplace1
Are your (or any mere human alive today) alleged "words from God" infallible ; i.e. "inspired" (Theopneustos) on the same level as 2 Timothy 3:16 ?
I disagree with him for once. Even the apostle Paul was prompted by the Spirit concerning what he should do. What is the purpose of the Spirit living in us if the written Word is the only way God speaks?
Discernment based on Biblical principles isn’t the same as the divine inspiration
Being prompted by the HS is not the same as “God told me”.
Right! Young Christian listen to this. It is spot on.
Does. God not speak to us today? Did the many prophetic words spoken in Paul's day, make the NT cannon? Nope. Yet those words were Gods words. Only if those words conflict with doctrine of NT scripture, should we pause.Test all things and hold fast to that which is good, Paul said
The "prophetic words of Paul's day" ?
What specifically and precisely are you denoting ?
Not at all clear .
Oh this is sad. Claiming divine sanction over your own opinion is a Godless form of persuasion. I agree with Joni!
The problem is, we have not learned the difference between our own opinion and God’s voice. That is sad. But we can learn. With trial and error and safe spaces to step out in faith. … and when we lay down all Godless fears that try to persuade us that He doesn’t speak. Preachers preach every Sunday what they hear the Lord to be saying directly to us through His written word into our moment in time. The Bible was inspired by God’s spoken words. We live not by bread alone but also by the words that continuously proceed out of His mouth. His written word is complete and it’s all we need. But He is also so gracious as to also give us fresh Manna for guidance and specific direction. Isa. 30:21.
My sheep hear my voice...
Audibly ?
@soljos1190
IF you are a true repentant believer then you are a sheep and listen to the Shepherd's words.
The Word of God, the Bible, is His voice.
@@2Chronicles714_
Your "Shepherd" is found in 2 CORINTHIANS 4:4 ; Luke 8:12 .
All who duplicate the doctrine of the Judaizers/unregenerate Scribes and Pharisees (Matthew 23) have this Blinder as their "Shepherd" .
Such an "Inspired" message, lol. I both agree and disagree. I believe God can speak to us through His Word AND personally, through prompts, circumstance and inner peace (or the lack thereof).
However our discernment must be ours, not for others. Keeping in mind, as imperfect beings, our discernment is also imperfect.
Agreed though, that the ONLY PERFECT Word of God..............is The Word of God within the pages of His Word, The Bible.
Thank You so much for this wonderful Thought Provoking ThinkSpot.
Wow. I’m blown away that Joni doesn’t believe in a God the communicates with His children. Yes He does speak messages directly to His kid.
Joni. I don’t know what to say.
I’ve admired you for decades. We are even the same age ont only biologically. But we were saved almost same year
I agree. I abhor tv fake preachers who claim God tells them stuff several times a day.
But look. Dreams and visions from the Lord are real. The gifts of the Spirit are reah. Ie. Word of Knowledge. Prophetic sayings. Interpreting tongues. Even NDEs to heaven and hell.
God can do anything including speaking through an ass. So limiting God is foolish.
Every false prophet starts with 'The Lord told me". JOni is generally right and even overwhelmingly right, but there can be times when God peaks directly, thugh I am always suspect about any such instance.
I agree with this assesment. Although, I know the Lord did speak to me on one occasion. It was audible as though in my head but yet like in my ears. He said "My blood covers this too" It was while I was in the middle of sinning. And He speaks perfect English.
1 Samuel 3:21 The Lord continued to appear at Shiloh,and there he revealed himself to Samuel through his word .( Jesus Christ is the same yesterday today and forever. )
I think Psalm 32:8-9 is a good correction
Amen! What I always try to get across to people.
Well, if God doesn't speak to us personally at least sometimes, then who's voice did i hear speaking to me about my sin?
It was a still small voice but an authoritative voice in my mind .
There have been other times
But, the charismatic movement and name it and claim it crowd has made a mockery of the Holy Spirit.
What is it you're affirming- specifically , precisely , without exception - one must Necessarily believe and Perform till death in order to be born again with irrevocable Everlasting Life to enter His Kingdom ?
Thanks .
With all due respect, and having only that small sample clip from Joni, I think she's speaking in a broader sense, many "charismatics" often lead with the phrase "God told me," and in that sense I agree with Joni, it is spoken of as a persuasion to the hearer. I'm not going so far to say that it is Godless but the phrase is too often used as if the speaker is speaking prophetically.
And to your second point I believe that God does speak to us His children in all matters as we pray. In a matter as sincere as marriage, the LORD God I believe speaks to us and warns us that this person is not the person for you, the LORD reveals. I'm reminded of Abraham's servant seeking a wife for Isaac that was divine intervention. I believe that the LORD still speaks to us through His divine revelation and that may be about any desire of our heart. So yes God can tell us whom we should marry among other things that we pray for, sometimes it is hard to wait on the LORD, but He's always on time. Thank you for your ministry in the Lord, be blessed and be a blessing.
What is it you're affirming- specifically , precisely , without exception - one must Necessarily believe and Perform till death in order to be born again with irrevocable Everlasting Life to enter His Kingdom ?
Thanks .
Wow. I’m blown away that Joni doesn’t believe in a God the communicates with His children. Yes He does speak messages directly to His kid.
Joni. I don’t know what to say.
I’ve admired you for decades. We are even the same age ont only biologically. But we were saved almost same year
What is it you're affirming - specifically , precisely , without exception - one must Necessarily believe and Perform till death in order to be born again with irrevocable Everlasting Life to enter His Kingdom ?
Thanks .
I don't think it's wise to say that God never speaks to anyone personally about a particular certain situation or circumstance. To me, that's being rigid and legalistic. Don't get me wrong, I use caution whenever I hear someone claim that God spoke to them about something. But just because others have gotten it wrong, have been received it just make it up about hearing God doesn't discount the fact that he does speak to other people.
So no, I'm not in agreement with this video.
What is it you're affirming - specifically , precisely , without exception - one must Necessarily believe and Perform till death in order to be born again with irrevocable Everlasting Life to enter His Kingdom ?
What is it you're affirming- specifically , precisely , without exception - one must Necessarily believe and Perform till death in order to be born again with irrevocable Everlasting Life to enter His Kingdom ?
Thanks .
I strongly disagree (not that it matters 😂). I've walked with the Lord for 36 years, and I can tell you that He does speak to us often, and in many ways (including dreams). Sorry, this time, you are wrong 😊
Are you a charismatic Pentecostal? God speaks to us thru His word.
Correct about one thing "not that it matters".
@@deadburiedrisenand God speaks to each one of His children individually, God's Word is a lamp unto our feet and a light unto our path: the Bible states that when our back is up against the wall, He will speak for us.
@@deadburiedrisenI am not a charismatic Pentecostal.
Does God speak to you Audibly ?
Can you literally affirm that ?
Joni teaches a false gospel, none of her words should be promoted, It could lead to people following her and hearing a false message.
How so?
What Karen is doing is exactly what
2 Peter 2:2-3 says:
Many will follow their shameful ways, and because of them the way of truth will be maligned. 3And in their greed they will exploit you with false arguments and twisted doctrine. Their sentence [of condemnation which God has decreed] from a time long ago is not idle [but is still in force], and their destruction and deepening misery is not asleep [but is on its way].
@@2Chronicles714_
What on earth are you trying to say ?
Never makes sense ...
Your working for a Free Gift incoherence has no rival in the annals of History .
Only a Blinder (2 Cor. 4:4) who steals the seed could be behind such blatantly impossible attempts to "come in some other way" than simple childlike faith in Him for His doubtless Guarantee of endless Everlasting Life (the imputation of His Free and Never Deserving Gift) .