John mcarthur in 1975 started by believing Jesus Christ alone for salvation, unfortunately he got carried away by different kinds of teachings which is 100% crystal clear if you listen to his statements today he has muddied the water with falsehood. May God have mercy on his soul and John mcarthur returns to his first love JESUS CHRIST ALONE FOR SALVATION.
He took a sabbatical in about 1979. People in his church said he came back with a different message and attitude about salvation. Calvinism got ahold of him. Yes, the Puritans changed him .
Based upon what I’ve researched on MacArthur, I believe he feared a takeover of his church by the Jesus Freaks - led by Lonnie Frisbee in the late to mid 70’s, or various JF groups. Fearing that and based upon what he thought was nationwide carnality, he went on sabbatical and created a different gospel (Gal 1:6-12). Lordship built a revolving gate to heaven, letting in only those who were 100% obedient, sexually pure, conservative, moral. The gate closed on anyone who did not meet those guidelines. The issue wasn’t belief in Christ, but “are you obedient? Moral?” - Billy Graham’s theology on steroids. When his book TGATJ was published, it swept Protestantism like a free electron. Gone was Christ’s death on the Cross, the Cross itself, grace, freewill. Churches now turned inward: believers began judging each others works. Are you elect? Where’s your fruit? “Tom’s daughter is living with her bf, I guess she’s not elect. Her parents haven’t been to church in a week … I guess they are not elect.” Lordship became a blame game. Sold to the Christian mainline for $17.99 a copy, now extant throughout much of the Protestant world. Based upon what I’ve researched - I’m assuming MacArthur feared the hippies and insulated himself and his church from the movement not by preaching the free grace gospel but by creating a new one, a false theology. “Let’s help God.”
My hope is built on nothing less Than Jesus’ blood and righteousness; I dare not trust the sweetest frame, But wholly lean on Jesus’ name. Refrain: On Christ, the solid Rock, I stand; All other ground is sinking sand, All other ground is sinking sand. When darkness veils His lovely face, I rest on His unchanging grace; In every high and stormy gale, My anchor holds within the veil. His oath, His covenant, His blood Support me in the whelming flood; When all around my soul gives way, He then is all my hope and stay. When He shall come with trumpet sound, Oh, may I then in Him be found; Dressed in His righteousness alone, Faultless to stand before the throne.
Many "scholars" want to make it seem like the Bible is complex and most people need preachers or priests to explain everything to them regarding the Bible and salvation. But the Bible explains to us that even a child understands how salvation works. Maybe more scholars should start thinking like a child.
Exactly ~! It’s God who brings the increase and only to babes. Jesus REJOICED over what the FATHER did~! 25 At that time Jesus answered and said, “I thank You, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, that You have HIDDEN these things from the WISE and INTELLIGENT and HAVE REVEALED THEM TO BABES. 26 Even so, Father, for so it seemed good in Your sight. 27 All things have been delivered to Me by My Father, and no one knows the Son except the Father. Nor does anyone know the Father except the Son, and the one to whom the Son wills to reveal Him.
However, the Bible does tell us that God calls, equips, gifts, and appoints pastors for our blessing. The overwhelming majority of ministers work very hard to fulfill God's call and help teach the Word to people and people understand the Word better and are closer to God because of them.
@@timleehenderson Who are you kidding the majority by far are false teachers, and their followers are scarred to death their going to hell because they have been taught to look to their works to prove they are saved.
Sproul, on his deathbed, was begging for prayer as he doubted whether or not he was saved. So much for knowing he was regenerated! I would be the same if I believed his theology. The only true reformed theology is free grace theology.
@@LilacDaisy2 A video from a reformed church had pastors asking for prayer for this gentleman on his deathbed. I also felt concerned for him. If I can find this link, I’ll post it to you here.
@@LilacDaisy2 You’re very welcome. So sorry I can’t yet find the actual footage of someone relaying his request for prayer to deal with his moments of doubt in his final hours. Thankfully, it seems his prayer was answered, as it is reported that ‘he died peacefully’. He was a lovely, humble man who ultimately knew he was saved by faith alone, despite the confusion of Calvinistic theology.
2nd chronicle, you think your behavior is good enough now. Your works are good enough and you don’t sin “too bad”, you won’t ever cross the line of sinning too much. Answer this question, where is the line? Oh when did your righteousness surpass filthy rags?
2 Corinthians 13:5 Examine yourselves, to see whether you are in the faith. Test yourselves. Or do you not realize this about yourselves, that Jesus Christ is in you?-unless indeed you fail to meet the test!" If a work of God does not continue than its not a work of God. If you fall short of the test repent and believe. Cry out to God for mercy until a work is done To test yourself to see if you're a real Christian read 1John. 1John 3:3-10 And everyone who thus hopes in him purifies himself as he is pure. 4Everyone who makes a practice of sinning also practices lawlessness; sin is lawlessness. 5You know that he appeared in order to take away sins, and in him there is no sin. 6No one who abides in him keeps on sinning; no one who keeps on sinning has either seen him or known him. 7Little children, let no one deceive you. Whoever practices righteousness is righteous, as he is righteous. 8Whoever makes a practice of sinning is of the devil, for the devil has been sinning from the beginning. The reason the Son of God appeared was to destroy the works of the devil. 9No one born of God makes a practice of sinning, for God’s seed abides in him; and he cannot keep on sinning, because he has been born of God. 10By this it is evident who are the children of God, and who are the children of the devil: whoever does not practice righteousness is not of God, nor is the one who does not love his brother. 1 John 1:5-7 This is the message we have heard from him and proclaim to you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all 6If we say we have fellowship with him while we walk in darkness, we lie and do not practice the truth. 7But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus his Son cleanses us from all sin. What does it mean to walk in darkness? A style of life.If we say we are a Christian and our lifestyle contradicts everything God has told us about Himself and His will we are a liar. If our lifestyle contradicts God's character then claiming to be a Christian is a lie. Not talking about unscriptual sinless perfection. Even a very mature Christian is susceptible to sin. Someone that has truly been born again will be sensitive to sin and they will be led to repentance and confession to that sin. 1 John 1:8-10 IF we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. 9 IF we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. 10 IF we say we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us. When was the last time you were broken over a sin because you knew it was against Gods will? If you are sensitive to sin it will lead you to confession. Galatians 5:24 Those who belong to Christ Jesus have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires. 2 Corinthians 5:15,17 and He died for all, that those who live should live no longer for themselves, but for Him who died for them and rose again. 17Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; old things have passed away; behold, all things have become new. These are the people Jesus is coming for. 1 Corinthians 15:23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming. IF I sin I cry out to God for forgiveness. Not only must we confess sin (1John1:9) but we must forsake it. Run away from it. One old definition of repentance is to leave the sin I've done before, and show I've earnestly grieved by doing it no more. Too many today are preaching a perverted gospel to make it as palatable as possible. They give them a shot of love and grace without any warning of a looming judgment of hell for any who think because of grace they can continue living no different than before. Those that believe that a change of conduct [Repenting of sin] is works are making our Lord's death on the cross meaningless. He didn't die for sins to give a green light to live like a demon. Galatians 6:7-8 Do not be deceived: God cannot be mocked. A man reaps what he sows. 8Whoever sows to please their flesh, from the flesh will reap destruction; whoever sows to please the Spirit, from the Spirit will reap eternal life. A rebirth in Jesus means a new heart, a new mind, a new spirit, a new person. Isaiah 64:5 You come to the help of those who gladly do right, who remember your ways. But when we continued to sin against them, you were angry. How then can we be saved? IF you love anyone or anything more than Jesus, it's an idol. IF Jesus preached the way many do today, they wouldn't have crucified Him.
@@2Chronicles714_ All you do is contradict Scripture with Scripture. Being in the faith is a fellowship issue not an eternal life issue, because at the moment of faith the believer has passed from death into life. John 5:24
2 Corinthians 13:5 Examine yourselves, to see whether you are in the faith. Test yourselves. Or do you not realize this about yourselves, that Jesus Christ is in you?-unless indeed you fail to meet the test!" If a work of God does not continue than its not a work of God. If you fall short of the test repent and believe. Cry out to God for mercy until a work is done To test yourself to see if you're a real Christian read 1John. 1John 3:3-10 And everyone who thus hopes in him purifies himself as he is pure. 4Everyone who makes a practice of sinning also practices lawlessness; sin is lawlessness. 5You know that he appeared in order to take away sins, and in him there is no sin. 6No one who abides in him keeps on sinning; no one who keeps on sinning has either seen him or known him. 7Little children, let no one deceive you. Whoever practices righteousness is righteous, as he is righteous. 8Whoever makes a practice of sinning is of the devil, for the devil has been sinning from the beginning. The reason the Son of God appeared was to destroy the works of the devil. 9No one born of God makes a practice of sinning, for God’s seed abides in him; and he cannot keep on sinning, because he has been born of God. 10By this it is evident who are the children of God, and who are the children of the devil: whoever does not practice righteousness is not of God, nor is the one who does not love his brother. 1 John 1:5-7 This is the message we have heard from him and proclaim to you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all 6If we say we have fellowship with him while we walk in darkness, we lie and do not practice the truth. 7But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus his Son cleanses us from all sin. What does it mean to walk in darkness? A style of life.If we say we are a Christian and our lifestyle contradicts everything God has told us about Himself and His will we are a liar. If our lifestyle contradicts God's character then claiming to be a Christian is a lie. Not talking about unscriptual sinless perfection. Even a very mature Christian is susceptible to sin. Someone that has truly been born again will be sensitive to sin and they will be led to repentance and confession to that sin. 1 John 1:8-10 IF we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. 9 IF we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. 10 IF we say we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us. When was the last time you were broken over a sin because you knew it was against Gods will? If you are sensitive to sin it will lead you to confession. IF I sin I cry out to God for forgiveness. Not only must we confess sin (1John1:9) but we must forsake it. Run away from it. One old definition of repentance is to leave the sin I've done before, and show I've earnestly grieved by doing it no more. If a man is genuinely born again, all old things are passed away, all things have become new.( 2 Corinthians 5:17) Too many today are preaching a perverted gospel to make it as palatable as possible. They give them a shot of love and grace without any warning of a looming judgment of hell for any who think because of grace they can continue living no different than before. Those that believe that a change of conduct [Repenting of sin] is works are making our Lord's death on the cross meaningless. He didn't die for sins to give a green light to live like a demon. Galatians 6:7-8 Do not be deceived: God cannot be mocked. A man reaps what he sows. 8Whoever sows to please their flesh, from the flesh will reap destruction; whoever sows to please the Spirit, from the Spirit will reap eternal life. A rebirth in Jesus means a new heart, a new mind, a new spirit, a new person. Galatians 5:24 And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts. IF you love anyone or anything more than Jesus, it's an idol. IF Jesus preached the way many do today, they wouldn't have crucified Him.
@@2Chronicles714_ @2Chronicles714_ All unbelievers in Him FOR His doubtless Guarantee of Endless Everlasting Life remain with Zero access to 1 John 1:6-9 . The New Man/New Nature is the Free Gift itself (Everlasting Life imputed apart from all working) . You Obviously deny the present possession of His Free and Never Deserving Gift (Everlasting Life) . So , very obviously , one who believes that is yet unregenerate . No fellowship forgiveness available to them looking to their Perseverance in Performance (works) as the Decisive Factor in their Everlasting destination . Confession of sin isn't - once - a Condition of being born again with irreversible Everlasting Life in Scripture . Nor is Repentance . Nor Discipleship . Nor a "Gift of faith" Irresistibly and Unconditionally Zapped into Hapless Meat Robots . Ever . So , you STILL don't make any sense . Noone who hasn't believed in Him for what He actually Certifies , is born again with endless Everlasting Life . Your works righteousness soteriology denies the Objective possession of His Free and Never Deserving Gift without - first - a Lifetime of hopefully good enough behavioral performance (works) . Therefore , incoherence underscores your every comment .
Jesus said clearly that we should examine ourselves in the light of Scripture and see if we are in the faith. Justification is a legal declaration of God that we have been declared just before God on Jesus' merits on the Cross. R.C.Sproul is right. A man who claims that Jesus' righteousness has been transferred to him, needs to live accordingly. He points to the fruits of their faith and that's exactly what Jesus will say to the so-called Christians: I never knew you those of you who lived (lifestyle) in lawlessness. You should preach the whole Gospel, not just a part of it.
*Why will Jesus tell many Christians, "I never knew you; depart from Me"? - Matt **7:21**-23* - Bob Wilkin th-cam.com/video/vBFp17tt47k/w-d-xo.html Bob Wilkin examines Matthew 7:21-23 and answers the question, "Why will Jesus tell many Christians, "I never knew you; depart from Me."? Bob Wilkin will also answer the question, "How you can avoid hearing this response from the Lord Jesus Christ?"
Jesus didn't say that, the apostle Paul said that. But, he was being sarcastic because the believers were questioning his apostleship because of the false teachers. He was basically telling them that if they are questioning his salvation they should question their own because they believed the message of the Gospel when he preached it to them. So, if he wasn't saved, neither were they. Right after that he tells them to acknowledge that they have the Holy Spirit and if they don't, he doesn't. If they do, so does he. There is never a reason for a believer to question his salvation. Others might question you, but a believer should KNOW he has eternal life because he has the Holy Spirit.
If anyone be in Christ he’s a new creation behold the old is gone and the new has come. The RESULTS of saving faith is supernatural change of a new heart after spiritual surgery.
How much of a "lifestyle change" ? Where in Scripture does Jesus - or any inspired writer of Scripture - state ? : "Whosoever that has a "LIFESTYLE CHANGE" has Everlasting life" ? Objectively quantify that for us please . We have no idea whatsoever what you're attempting to denote by your assertion . I've never gotten a response from this question posed to those attempting to defend works righteousness (Obedience/Fruit/Repentance as a turn from an unknowable % of sin until death is NECESSARY to go to His Kingdom) : How good are you ? How good do you have to be to get to His endless Kingdom ? Show us , from Exegesis of Scripture - the unambiguous , precise , objective , doubtless (%) level of behavioral performance (works) NECESSARY to earn/merit/be rewarded with/DESERVE the Free and Never Deserving Gift of endless Everlasting Life after death , per : 1. Second . 2. Minute . 3. Hour . 4. Day . 5. Week . 6 . Month . 7 . Year . 8 . Decade . 9 . Lifetime . I'll wait for your precise , specific , objectively verifiable reply . To meet the Burden of Proof to sustain your affirmation , make sure that you find this criteria in every Evangelistic/ Justification before God/Everlasting Life passage in Scripture , which would prove that it is indeed NECESSARY .
And what about the grace that says no to ungodliness and worldly passions, to live self controlled, upright and godly lives in this present age while we wait for the blessed hope, the glorious appearing of our great God and Savior, Jesus Christ, spoken of in Titus 🤔 What a dangerous message to just believe Jobn 3:16 and go live your life anyway you like. Sounds like ungodly men turning the grace of God into lasciviousness spoken of in Jude😮
What is it you're affirming - specifically , precisely , and without exception - one must Necessarily believe and Perform till death , in order to be born again with irrevocable Everlasting Life to enter His Kingdom ?
Titus 3:5 Not by WORKS of righteousness which we have done, but according ton his mercy he saved us, by the washing of REGENERATION , and renewing of the Holy Ghost..... verse 7 the being justified by his GRACE
Sproul's first clip is ambiguous , at best . His subsequent clarification reduces to Soteriological Agnosticism : "Regeneration preceeds faith" is supposed to filter out all the Mud in the Water ? So , on his Theological Determinism (Calvinism) one is fortuitously "Elect" IF one is "Regenerate" ? And Sproul's "Infallible Metric" for determining whether one IS or ISN'T one of those Irresistibly and Unconditionally "Chosen/Predestined" ? The same "Infallible Metric" employed by MacArthur , Piper , Justin Peters , Paul Washer , Voddie Baucham, Alan Parr , every Arminian Theologian , Roman Catholicism , Eastern Orthodoxy , Mormonism , Church of Christ (etc.) : One's Perseverance in Performance (works) till death . The antithesis of His Objective Guarantee of Endless Everlasting Life (John 3:16 & Ephesians 2:8-9 . Tops Out at utter Unknowabilty . The very definition of Subjectivity when introspection of an already imperfect and fallen nature is somehow a "reliable" Baroneter . Infinitely better Odds nailing Tapioca Pudding to the Wall .
The real Bottom Line with Sproul & His Lordship Salvation teaching is clarified by one of his final sermons when he literally Fear s "waking up in Hell" . Logically consistent with His Theological Determinism (Calvinism) where the "P"erseverance of the saints" Tops Out at Guesswork of one's Everlasting destination , based upon one's never Quantifiable level of hopefully good enough behavioral performance (works) . The sure recipe for Doubt . The Antithesis of faith in Him for His doubtless Guarantee of Endless Everlasting Life .
Repentance is works . Not faith . Only simple childlike faith in Him FOR His doubtless Guarantee of Endless Everlasting Life regenerates forever : John 3:16 & Ephesians 2:8-9 .
@dostoyevski9423 Unbelief is a sin. It's not the only sin however. So repent means change your mind about your sinfulled life ALL SINS,INCLUDING UNBELIEF,false gods, witchcraft,self righteousness,idols etc.
@@2Chronicles714_ You're a sinner . So am I and every mere human . How many sins did Jesus Judicially Propitiate ? Some , or all of them ? Why do you sin at all ? How much sin that you - Personally - commit , will disqualify you for entrance into His Kingdom ? When you sin , do you Lose/Forfeit Temporary /Conditional/ Probationary "life" , or Eternal/Everlasting Life ?
Teacher of Doubt of one's Everlasting destination based upon purely subjective behavioral criteria . Antithetical to His Objective Promise of Never Ending Life simply by childlike faith in Him FOR it: John 3:16 & Ephesians 2:8-9 .
Thank you Mr Wilkin. A verse of scripture came to my heart as I was listening to this presentation. Ephesians 4 verse 14 KJV..that we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive;
Here's one that comes to mind for those who teach your conduct is irrelevant as long as you've said "I believe". Jude 4 For certain individuals WHOSE CONDEMNATION WAS WRITTEN ABOUT LONG AGO HAVE SECRETLY SLIPPED IN AMONG YOU THEY ARE UNGODLY PEOPLE WHO PERVERT THE GRACE OF OUR GOD INTO A LICENSE FOR IMMORALITY AND DENY JESUS CHRIST OUR ONLY SOVEREIGN AND LORD.
@@2Chronicles714_How much of a "lifestyle change" ? Where in Scripture does Jesus - or any inspired writer of Scripture - state ? : "Whosoever that has a "LIFESTYLE CHANGE" has Everlasting life" ? Objectively quantify that for us please . We have no idea whatsoever what you're attempting to denote by your assertion . I've never gotten a response from this question posed to those attempting to defend works righteousness (Obedience/Fruit/Repentance as a turn from an unknowable % of sin until death is NECESSARY to go to His Kingdom) : How good are you ? How good do you have to be to get to His endless Kingdom ? Show us , from Exegesis of Scripture - the unambiguous , precise , objective , doubtless (%) level of behavioral performance (works) NECESSARY to earn/merit/be rewarded with/DESERVE the Free and Never Deserving Gift of endless Everlasting Life after death , per : 1. Second . 2. Minute . 3. Hour . 4. Day . 5. Week . 6 . Month . 7 . Year . 8 . Decade . 9 . Lifetime . I'll wait for your precise , specific , objectively verifiable reply . To meet the Burden of Proof to sustain your affirmation , make sure that you find this criteria in every Evangelistic/ Justification before God/Everlasting Life passage in Scripture , which would prove that it is indeed NECESSARY .
@@2Chronicles714_ @2Chronicles714_ You're a sinner . So am I and every mere human . How many sins did Jesus Judicially Propitiate ? Some , or all of them ? Why do you sin at all ? How much sin that you - Personally - commit , will disqualify you for entrance into His Kingdom ? When you sin , do you Lose/Forfeit Temporary /Conditional/ Probationary "life" , or Eternal/Everlasting Life ?
@@2Chronicles714_@2Chronicles714_ How much of a "lifestyle change" ? Where in Scripture does Jesus - or any inspired writer of Scripture - state ? : "Whosoever that has a "LIFESTYLE CHANGE" has Everlasting life" ? Objectively quantify that for us please . We have no idea whatsoever what you're attempting to denote by your assertion . I've never gotten a response from this question posed to those attempting to defend works righteousness (Obedience/Fruit/Repentance as a turn from an unknowable % of sin until death is NECESSARY to go to His Kingdom) : How good are you ? How good do you have to be to get to His endless Kingdom ? Show us , from Exegesis of Scripture - the unambiguous , precise , objective , doubtless (%) level of behavioral performance (works) NECESSARY to earn/merit/be rewarded with/DESERVE the Free and Never Deserving Gift of endless Everlasting Life after death , per : 1. Second . 2. Minute . 3. Hour . 4. Day . 5. Week . 6 . Month . 7 . Year . 8 . Decade . 9 . Lifetime . I'll wait for your precise , specific , objectively verifiable reply . To meet the Burden of Proof to sustain your affirmation , make sure that you find this criteria in every Evangelistic/ Justification before God/Everlasting Life passage in Scripture , which would prove that it is indeed NECESSARY .
One only has to watch how he died to understand what calvinism produces in the human spirit. He was scared to death of going to hell. That's most likely exactly where he is. He did NOT believe in Christ and thats the only sin that can take a person to hell.
Millions of people who believe in Jesus will be cast into the lake of fire. Those who claim believe only and reject repentance are decieved. Read Matt 7:21-23 & Luke 13:24-28
@@2Chronicles714_That's a verifiable Lie . Only those whose names aren't found in the Book of Life are cast into the endless lake of fire , caused by their unbelief in Him FOR His doubtless Guarantee of irrevocable Everlasting Life: John 3:16 & Ephesians 2:8-9) . All who follow your works righteousness soteriology and Never come to faith in Him for His Free and Never Deserving Gift , are the ones Eternally condemned .
@@2Chronicles714_ The Final Judgment October 7, 2016 by GES Webmaster in Blog - Bob Wilkin, Final Judgment, Propitiation, Sin, Universal Atonement by Zane Hodges In John’s well-known description of the Final Judgment in Revelation 20:11-14, we do not even find a reference to sins, much less a reference to unforgiven sins. Instead, we are told, “the dead were judged acording to theirworks, by the things which were written in the books” (Rev 20:12; italics added). To be sure, the works of unsaved people contain innumerable sins, but it is still significant that sin per se is not referred to, as we will point out in a moment. Yet even though unsaved people are judged on the basis of their works,they are not condemned to hell on that basis! On the contrary we read, “Anyone not found written in the Book of Life was cast into the lake of fire” (Rev 20:15; italics added). People go to hell, therefore, because they do not have life! This is precisely what we might have concluded from the theme statement of the Fourth Gospel: “but these are written that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and that believing you may have life in His name” (John 20:31; italics added). It is also evident in John 5:24 where our Lord states that the believer “shall not come into judgment, but has passed from death into life” (italics added). We conclude, therefore, that the possession oflife is the critical issue between God and man in terms of eternal judgment. There is no Final Judgment to determine one’s eternal destiny if he already possesses life. But sin is not the critical issue. Why not? John’s own writings tell us why. According to John, Jesus is “the Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world” (John 1:29); and “He Himself is the propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only but also for the whole world” (1 John 2:2). The hymn writer was correct when he said that “Jesus paid it all”! So marvelously complete and full is the sacrificial death of Christ for our sins that God’s justice is satisfied by that sacrifice and no man is condemned to hell on the grounds of his sins. But by the same token, the cross of Christ does not automatically regenerate men and women. They still need to obtainlife and this is available to them on one basis only: faith in Christ. But then, one might ask, why do men’s works come up at all? The reason must surely be that at the Final Judgment mankind will get a full and fair hearing. Since multitudes have supposed that they can reach heaven by their works, these works will be examined on that day. But as Scripture already informs us, no man can be saved by his works (Eph 2:8-9; Titus 3:5; Rom 3:20). The outcome of the final examination of the works of the lost is a foregone conclusion. Any claim to God’s salvation that is based on the deeds a person has done will be swept away by the contents of the books that are opened at the judgment. Man’s one last hope will rest in the Book of Life, which will be duly consulted even though those being judged do not have their names written there. But the absence of their names from its pages is the basis on which the lost are cast into the lake of fire. Thus one can see that the issue at the Final Judgment is not man’s sin, since Christ has atoned for that in its entirety. Instead, the issue is whether someone can make it into the kingdom of God on the basis of the works they did on earth, apart from the miracle of new birth that comes by faith alone. But as the Lord Jesus informed Nicodemus, “Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God” (John 3:3). This article is excerpted from Harmony With God by Zane Hodges
The Final Judgment October 7, 2016 by GES Webmaster in Blog - Bob Wilkin, Final Judgment, Propitiation, Sin, Universal Atonement by Zane Hodges In John’s well-known description of the Final Judgment in Revelation 20:11-14, we do not even find a reference to sins, much less a reference to unforgiven sins. Instead, we are told, “the dead were judged acording to theirworks, by the things which were written in the books” (Rev 20:12; italics added). To be sure, the works of unsaved people contain innumerable sins, but it is still significant that sin per se is not referred to, as we will point out in a moment. Yet even though unsaved people are judged on the basis of their works,they are not condemned to hell on that basis! On the contrary we read, “Anyone not found written in the Book of Life was cast into the lake of fire” (Rev 20:15; italics added). People go to hell, therefore, because they do not have life! This is precisely what we might have concluded from the theme statement of the Fourth Gospel: “but these are written that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and that believing you may have life in His name” (John 20:31; italics added). It is also evident in John 5:24 where our Lord states that the believer “shall not come into judgment, but has passed from death into life” (italics added). We conclude, therefore, that the possession oflife is the critical issue between God and man in terms of eternal judgment. There is no Final Judgment to determine one’s eternal destiny if he already possesses life. But sin is not the critical issue. Why not? John’s own writings tell us why. According to John, Jesus is “the Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world” (John 1:29); and “He Himself is the propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only but also for the whole world” (1 John 2:2). The hymn writer was correct when he said that “Jesus paid it all”! So marvelously complete and full is the sacrificial death of Christ for our sins that God’s justice is satisfied by that sacrifice and no man is condemned to hell on the grounds of his sins. But by the same token, the cross of Christ does not automatically regenerate men and women. They still need to obtainlife and this is available to them on one basis only: faith in Christ. But then, one might ask, why do men’s works come up at all? The reason must surely be that at the Final Judgment mankind will get a full and fair hearing. Since multitudes have supposed that they can reach heaven by their works, these works will be examined on that day. But as Scripture already informs us, no man can be saved by his works (Eph 2:8-9; Titus 3:5; Rom 3:20). The outcome of the final examination of the works of the lost is a foregone conclusion. Any claim to God’s salvation that is based on the deeds a person has done will be swept away by the contents of the books that are opened at the judgment. Man’s one last hope will rest in the Book of Life, which will be duly consulted even though those being judged do not have their names written there. But the absence of their names from its pages is the basis on which the lost are cast into the lake of fire. Thus one can see that the issue at the Final Judgment is not man’s sin, since Christ has atoned for that in its entirety. Instead, the issue is whether someone can make it into the kingdom of God on the basis of the works they did on earth, apart from the miracle of new birth that comes by faith alone. But as the Lord Jesus informed Nicodemus, “Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God” (John 3:3). This article is excerpted from Harmony With God by Zane Hodges
Eph 1:12 Trusted in Christ, Eph 1:13 after that ye believed...ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise. Eph 1:14 which is the EARNEST of our salvation. Trust and believe are synonymns. The fact of being sealed with the Holy Spirit is our assurance.
Unless your simple Gospel has Jesus as the Christ the giver of eternal life you have no good news. Jesus promise of eternal life is completely OBJECTIVE therefore it brings CERTAINTY. If you add 1 Cor 15:1-4 you’re adding something that is conditioned on persevering “if” you hold fast. Which is written to already born again believers. Jesus promise of eternal life only comes by divine revelation. See these verses John 6:44-45,65; 12:47-50 when they hear the command the Father gave the Son to speak there is a spiritual resurrection they pass out of death and into life John 5:24-25. Jesus said the hour “now is” that the spiritually dead will hear the voice of the Son of God and live~! But if you’re not open you’re not going to hear His words the Father gave Him to speak: the command of eternal life. One is only born again by a revelation from the Father, Jesus is speaking the Fathers words He gave Him to speak. See Matthew 16:15-23 and John 10:16 Jesus builds His Church by a revelation of Jesus the Christ the giver of eternal life. Jesus told His disciples in Matt 16:20 tell no one that He was Jesus the Christ. They still did not believe that Jesus would die. What did Paul believe to be saved see 1 Tim 1:15-16 he had received a revelation that Jesus was the Christ the giver of eternal life Gal 1:11-12. This proves that Jesus promise is true…Most assuredly, I say to you he who believes in Me has eternal life. It’s Jesus promise NOT our promise, and that makes it completely OBJECTIVE so the one who believes has CERTAINTY~! Jesus cannot lie~!
@@ronaldsimmons9517 We are IF your going to John 3:16-17 for the meaning of save. Which save there is parallel to eternal life. And condemn is parallel to perish. We’re saved when we believe Jesus promise of eternal life. It’s His promise not our promise so we have CERTAINTY. Faith in the Gospel of John is seeing Jesus as the Christ the giver of eternal life. That is why John can say in 1 John 5:1a Whoever believes in Jesus as the Christ is born of God. And this is the promise He promised us-eternal life. 1 John 2:25
@AlvinFen John 3:17 uses the term, sōzō, meaning to heal or save from destruction, not to perish. Believing in Jesus gets you eternal life and fulfilment. Jesus also reiterates this in John 6. Paul states believers are sealed unto the day of redemption. So, we agree. As you said, Jesus is not a liar.
Why is it so difficult for Bob to exegies Matthew 7. Its amazing to me how people like Bob goes after Calvinist and can't see past camping on John 3:16.
*Can You Know That You're Born Again By Looking at Your Fruits? (Matthew 7:15-20)* - Bob Wilkin th-cam.com/video/VUcEYXrw6CA/w-d-xo.html How can you know that you're born again? Can you know by looking for fruit in your life? "Fruit inspection" has been devastating to many people's assurance. Bob Wilkin of the Grace Evangelical Society discusses Matt 7:15-20, "Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves. You will know them by their fruits..." They show that Jesus is talking about identifying false prophets, not about having personal assurance of salvation. *What is the Will of the Father? (Matthew 7:21)* - Bob Wilkin th-cam.com/video/4rdVUT5xRoE/w-d-xo.html Not everyone will enter the kingdom. Some will be excluded. So how do you enter? Jesus said it depends on doing "the will of the Father." What is that? Does that mean doing works, or something else? Bob Wilkin of the Grace Evangelical Society discusses. *Why will Jesus tell many Christians, "I never knew you; depart from Me"? - Matt **7:21**-23* - Bob Wilkin th-cam.com/video/vBFp17tt47k/w-d-xo.html Bob Wilkin examines Matthew 7:21-23 and answers the question, "Why will Jesus tell many Christians, "I never knew you; depart from Me."? Bob Wilkin will also answer the question, "How you can avoid hearing this response from the Lord Jesus Christ?"
*What Is Antinomianism?* - Bob Wilkin th-cam.com/video/JqXHcBg71m8/w-d-xo.html Bob discusses the idea of antinomianism-the idea that the grace Christians receive allows us to live our lives how we please. Does GES support this idea?
Thanks for the simplicity of gospel of Christ. I have a question, about another topic, there has been many interpretations of the nature of the thorn in Paul's flesh in 2 Corinthians 12:7. ¿What was the thorn that Paul had stuck in his body? May the peace of the Lord be with you!
Calvinists many of them think they're smarter than God as do many modern-day Bible scholars. If you died tonight, are you 100% sure you would go to heaven? God wants us to know for sure and his word tells us how we can know. Eternal life with God is a free gift. Jesus Christ paid it all for you. He took your punishment so you can go free. The gospel. Jesus Christ died for your sins, according to the scriptures, and that he was buried and rose again the third day according to the scriptures. Acknowledge your a sinner, ask Jesus Christ to forgive you, put your trust in his finished work on the cross / his shed blood that can cleanse your sin.. and ask him to forgive you and save you. For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.
The Gospel says nothing about ASKING for forgiveness. If you believe, you RECEIVE forgiveness of sins. Asking God for a gift He already offered is mute. It's in the RECEIVING by faith. If you believe, you receive.
@@graftme3168 What was Jesus's final command after the resurrection? Luke 24:44-47 He said to them, “This is what I told you while I was still with you: Everything must be fulfilled that is written about me in the Law of Moses, the Prophets and the Psalms.” Then he opened their minds so they could understand the Scriptures. 46He told them, “This is what is written: The Messiah will suffer and rise from the dead on the third day, And REPENTANCE FOR THE FORGIVENESS OF SINS will be preached in His name to ALL NATIONS Starting in Jerusalem. Jesus never preached John 3:16.
@@2Chronicles714_How much of a "lifestyle change" ? Where in Scripture does Jesus - or any inspired writer of Scripture - state ? : "Whosoever that has a "LIFESTYLE CHANGE" has Everlasting life" ? Objectively quantify that for us please . We have no idea whatsoever what you're attempting to denote by your assertion . I've never gotten a response from this question posed to those attempting to defend works righteousness (Obedience/Fruit/Repentance as a turn from an unknowable % of sin until death is NECESSARY to go to His Kingdom) : How good are you ? How good do you have to be to get to His endless Kingdom ? Show us , from Exegesis of Scripture - the unambiguous , precise , objective , doubtless (%) level of behavioral performance (works) NECESSARY to earn/merit/be rewarded with/DESERVE the Free and Never Deserving Gift of endless Everlasting Life after death , per : 1. Second . 2. Minute . 3. Hour . 4. Day . 5. Week . 6 . Month . 7 . Year . 8 . Decade . 9 . Lifetime . I'll wait for your precise , specific , objectively verifiable reply . To meet the Burden of Proof to sustain your affirmation , make sure that you find this criteria in every Evangelistic/ Justification before God/Everlasting Life passage in Scripture , which would prove that it is indeed NECESSARY .
Sproul is a cogent example of a very well educated person that makes no sense whatsoever to a little child . He taught a perpetual Doubt of one's Everlasting destination based upon purely Subjective criteria . The doubtless Guarantee of Endless Everlasting Life (John 1:12-13,3:1-18,4:10-14,5:24,6:28-47,11:23-27) is Objective . Thus , certain . Calvinism is the Worst of all possible News , properly understood .
You said according to John 3:16, by believing in JESUS a person is secured at the very moment, if so then he shouldn't be dying from any diseases, accidents or anything and continued in the kingdom of heaven?
@@soljos1190 John 3:16 speaks of present tense, if you believe in JESUS then you must become immune from anything that's perishing you or destroying you because you have eternal life. This is what the scriptures say explicitly. If you become in line with scripture or not, that's the question. If you're unable to be in line with a scripture then that's your fault. You must say the truth at least as Matthew 5:37 says. Many preachers throughout the history preaches that whosoever believes in JESUS shouldn't perish after the end of the world or after return of JESUS because they will have eternal life, this is the popular explanation, but they're not in line with a scripture because this popular explanation speaks of future tense, so it's not in line with a scripture, so it's false. Instead if you say everlasting life isn't synonymous with external existence, then that's utter nonsense because both have the same meaning. So, learn to fulfil Matthew 5:37. There are SOME who shouldn't be perished or destroyed even by bullets because they have eternal life, and shall physically demonstrate and fulfil John 3:16, and vindicate it, and those SOME only the witnesses of JESUS as Revelation 11 speaks, do don't try to challenge them by your false explanation then you will be doomed.
@@williamgeorgepeter2969 Dude , your Lexical ignorance is only equal to your Exegetical absence of evidence . Eternal EXISTENCE is a Fact for all humans who've ever EXISTED Everlasting Life is the Life that God ALONE possesses intrinsically . That Life is His Free and Never Deserving Gift given by way of imputation , to all who believe in the Christ (Jesus) FOR it : John 1:12-13,3:1-18,4:1-39,5:24,6:28-47,10,11:23-27,20:31 ; 1 John 5:1,10-13 ; 1 Timothy 1:16 ; Acts 16:31 ; Galatians 2:16,3:26 ; Totally apart from all behavioral performance (works) : Ephesians 2:8-9 ; Romans 3:20-5:11,11:6,29 ; Titus 3:5 ; Philippians 3:9 ; Book of Galatians .
@@williamgeorgepeter2969 Is Having Everlasting Life Different from Living Forever? January 5, 2022 by Bob Wilkin in Blog - John 3:16, John 6:51, Revelation 20:11-15 I recently heard a new song for John 3:16. The line about everlasting life jumped out at me. In place of “whoever believes in Him has everlasting life,” the lyrics were, “whoever believes in Him will live forever.” Did you notice the difference there? First, the Lord spoke of the present possession of everlasting life: “whoever believes in Him…has everlasting life.” Whatever it is, the believer has it. There is a future tense in John 3:16. The Lord said that whoever believes in Him will not perish. That is, the believer will not be eternally condemned at the future Great White Throne Judgment because his name is already in the book of life (Rev 20:15). But everlasting life starts the minute one believes, not when one dies or is glorified. Second, everlasting life is not the same as living forever, at least not in the way most people understand living forever. If by live forever we mean will exist forever, then unbelievers will live forever as Rev 20:11-15 makes clear. They will spend eternity being tormented in the lake of fire. Of course, it is true that this is called “the second death” (Rev 20:14; 21:8). And Paul does say that before God made them alive (Eph 2:5-8), the Ephesians had been “dead in [their] trespasses and sins.” They were alive physically. But Paul calls that being dead. And so does the Lord, as we shall see. The word death means separation, not cessation of existence. That is clear in both Rev 20:14 and Rev 21:8, both of which say that the second death is being cast into the lake of fire. The first death is physical death. The second death is eternal separation from God’s life and God’s kingdom. The unbeliever will be resurrected (Rev 20:12-13) and then forever will be tormented in the lake of fire. Everlasting life is the life of Jesus (John 11:25; 14:6; 1 John 1:2; 5:20). He is everlasting life. Those who believe in Him have everlasting life. We will never be that life. But we have it now and we will have it forever. Nothing can reverse the new birth. The unbeliever does not have that life. And if he dies in unbelief, he will never have that life. In the Biblical sense, unbelievers will not live forever.i However, I bet you’ve had someone tell you that everyone will live forever and hence everyone has everlasting life. The problem with that argument is that the Bible does not call eternal existence living forever, and it clearly indicates that unbelievers do not have everlasting life. Third, changing the present possession of everlasting life into a future reality could leave the door open to the idea that the believer will have everlasting life if he perseveres in faith and good works until death. Those who already believe in eternal security would not take “will live forever” that way. But those who do not believe in eternal security would. Now to the places where the Lord promised that believers will live forever. In John 6:51 the Lord Jesus said, “I am the living bread which came down from heaven. If anyone eats of this bread, he will live forever; and the bread that I shall give is My flesh, which I shall give for the life of the world” (emphasis added). John 6:58 says the same thing. Eating the Bread of Life is a figure of speech for believing in Him for everlasting life.ii When the Bible speaks of humans who will live forever, it is speaking of those who have everlasting life right now and who will have that life forever. Living forever, Biblically speaking, is not existing forever.iii (BTW, the expression He who lives forever refers to God in Rev 4:9, 10; 5:14; 10:6; 15:7.) In addition, the context of John 6 is such that it sheds an important light on what Jesus meant by “will live forever.” Jesus had just fed the 5,000 with bread. They wanted that bread to continue always (John 6:34). Jesus went on to point out that their fathers had eaten bread from heaven, manna, in the wilderness and yet they “are dead” (John 6:58). But, Jesus said, if you eat the Bread of Life, then you will not die, but you will live forever. In this context, living forever is a guarantee of eternal security and it promises the present possession of everlasting life too. Compare John 6:35 and the words will never hunger and will never thirst. See also John 4:10-14. And John 11:26. The Lord not only promises that the believer has everlasting life, but also that he will never die (John 11:26), will never hunger and thirst (John 4:10-14; 6:35), will never perish (John 3:16), will not come into judgment (John 5:24), and will not be cast out (John 6:37). John 3:16 is a magnificent verse. The Lord guarantees that whoever believes in Him will not perish (= be eternally condemned, John 3:17), but has everlasting life right now as a present possession. Believers will live forever in the sense that they have everlasting life and always will. Unbelievers will have conscious existence forever, but they will only live forever if they come to faith in Christ for everlasting life before they die. __________ i Of course, the Bible does use the words live and life to refer to ongoing existence in this life, even of unbelievers. See, for example, life in Gen 1:30; 19:17; Exod 1:14; Lev 19:16; 2 Kings 8:5; Prov 1:19; 1 Cor 6:3-4; 1 Tim 4:8; 2:2. See also the verb live in Gen 11:11-26; Exod 1:16; 22:18; Ps 69:28; 89:48; John 4:50, 51, 53; 11:26a; 1 Cor 7:39. But it never refers to men in general living forever. In Scripture, only believers live forever since only believers have everlasting life. ii See also the much-misunderstood statement by the Lord, “Do this [keep the Law, that is, love God and love your neighbor] and you will live” (Luke 10:28). That was Jesus’ answer to the question, “Teacher, what shall I do to inherit eternal life?” Of course, no one can keep the Law perfectly other than the Lord Himself. The Lord taught that only by believing in Him could someone be born again. But notice that He said that if someone did keep the Law, then he would live. The Lord taught that physically alive people needed to be made alive. That is, they needed His life! iii Unbelievers will be raised (Rev 20:12-14) and will forever have bodies as well as consciousness and feelings. But that is not being alive forever in the Biblical sense.
From my limited understanding of what GES believes do you all not do a similar thing as Sproul and the Reformed in your splitting the Body of Christ into 'Disciples' and ordinary Christians?
I would highly recommend you prayerfully study the Gospel of John. It’s the only book in the Bible that has a purpose statement for unbelievers that they may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and that believing may have LIFE IN HIS NAME. (John 20:30-31) All the other books are written to already born again believers. The born again believers in John 2:23 Jesus would not commit Himself to. That tells us that following Jesus in discipleship is not automatic. Eternal life is REALLY a free gift that MUST be taken freely. One must understand Jesus offer of eternal life in order to believe Him.
@@2Chronicles714_ Except that nowhere in the Text itself does it state that ! Here's a Clue for you : Produce actual Objective evidence to sustain your assertion . It remains axiomatic that the ABSENCE of evidence isn't EVIDENCE . Repentance is not faith . Only faith in Him FOR His Free and Never Deserving Gift of Endless Everlasting Life regenerates . Or , it's a Performance Contract , which is impossible: Ephesians 2:8-9 ; Romans 3:20-5:11,11:6,29 ; Titus 3:5 ; Philippians 3:9 ; book of Galatians . All unbelievers in Him FOR His doubtless Guarantee of Endless Everlasting Life remain with Zero access to 1 John 1:6-9 . The New Man/New Nature is the Free Gift itself (Everlasting Life imputed apart from all working) . You Obviously deny the present possession of His Free and Never Deserving Gift (Everlasting Life) . So , very obviously , one who believes that is yet unregenerate . No fellowship forgiveness available to them looking to their Perseverance in Performance (works) as the Decisive Factor in their Everlasting destination . Confession of sin isn't - once - a Condition of being born again with irreversible Everlasting Life in Scripture . Nor is Repentance . Nor Discipleship . Nor a "Gift of faith" Irresistibly and Unconditionally Zapped into Hapless Meat Robots . Ever . So , you STILL don't make any sense . Noone who hasn't believed in Him for what He actually Certifies , is born again with endless Everlasting Life . Your works righteousness soteriology denies the Objective possession of His Free and Never Deserving Gift without - first - a Lifetime of hopefully good enough behavioral performance (works) . Therefore , incoherence underscores your every comment .
1 Corinthians 9:27 [27]But I keep under my body, and bring it into subjection: lest that by any means, when I have preached to others, I myself should be a castaway. Like you said Paul was worried that he wouldn't persevere. But that he might be reprobated. Are you saying that an individual who doesn't persevere in the faith and becomes a reprobates still is in Jesus Christ and therefore has eternal life? Thanks for the video and the response 👍
@@AlvinFen He literally said that he feared becoming reprobated. Nothing here about loosing rewards. I suggest doing a quick study on the word used here for "reprobate" and see if any of thoes individuals are even close to being saved 😉
@@AlvinFen You still haven't delt with the fact that Paul is fearfull of being reprobated. As for the crown this belongs to the one who finishes the race, this crown is eternal life and it only belongs to the individual who is loving Him to the end. 12. Happy the man who doth endure temptation, because, becoming approved, he shall receive the crown of the life, which the Lord did promise to those LOVING HIM. (James, 1) Do you really believe that the unbelieving will inherit the kingdom of God? Thanks for the conversation 👍
@@seanvann1747James is Israel's doctrine. Paul was teaching Body of Christ Church doctrine. When you combine the two doctrines instead of rightly dividing between the two, you can only be confused. Israel's doctrine is not a valid doctrine today because God is not doing Israel's prophecy program today. Today, during this Dispensation of Grace, He is building the Body of Christ Church.
Purpose of the Book of John John 20:30-31 The disciples saw Jesus do many other miraculous signs in addition to the ones recorded in this book. 31But these are written SO THAT YOU MAY CONTINUE TO BELIEVE that Jesus is the Messiah, the Son of God, and that by believing in him you will have life by the power of his name.
You need to prayerfully read the Gospel of John which is written for you an unbeliever John 20:30-31 that you may have life in His name. The moment one believes in Jesus for eternal life the HAVE eternal life and have passed out of death into life John 5:24. 25 At that time Jesus answered and said, “I thank You, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, that You have HIDDEN these things from the WISE and INTELLIGENT and HAVE REVEALED THEM TO BABES. 26 Even so, Father, for so it seemed good in Your sight. 27 All things have been delivered to Me by My Father, and no one knows the Son except the Father. Nor does anyone know the Father except the Son, and the one to whom the Son wills to reveal Him.
@AlvinFen That's false. Matthew is written for unbelievers and new believers. Mark and Luke are for unbelievers. John's gospel was written 60 years after Jesus's resurrection for already repented believers in the church of Ephesus. Bob can't explain how people who died during that 60 years went to heaven ,until John's gospel that he claims is the only one for evangelism was written. One of many scriptures in John that proves it is for believers is John 16:1 All this I have told you so that you will not fall away. Obviously He's not talking to unbelievers.
@@AlvinFen Jesus Peter and Paul all said we must repent to have our sins forgiven. Without repentance sins are not forgiven even IF you can quote every scripture in John. John 3:16 is a promise for believers IF they continue in the faith until the end it is not how to be born again. Jesus said you spiritual rebirth which can not happen without repentance which is the consequence of faith
@@2Chronicles714_ When you sin are you "Continuously believing" ? Your take on the Greek tenses in John is Objectively indefensible . It is Gnomic . Thus timeless . Ho Pisteuon absolutely destroys your premise . Further , Aorist past tense usages in Acts 16:31 & Ephesians 2:8-9 destroy your assertion . Reason you Eisegete a "Continuously believing" is in order to posit a behavioral performance component (works righteousness) , because your Object and Content of your "faith" is your Perseverance in the 5 Part Performance Contract till death , payable upon "successful" but NEVER Knowable nor Quantifiable levels of hopefully good enough behavioral performance (works) . You don't believe in Him FOR His doubtless Guarantee of Endless Everlasting Life , apart from all works . Every conceivable Lexical usage indicates its (Ho Pisteuon) timeless tense . You continue to trot out completely impossible grammar . You're literally working for a Free and Never Deserving Gift , and thinking that you're finishing the work that the Christ somehow didn't in His PERFECT work of Redemption (1 John 2:2) . There's no greater blasphemy available than self righteous attempts to steal all the Glory due to the Christ (Jesus) alone . That's precisely what all who look to their Filthy Rags attempts to "come in some other way" are doing .
@@2Chronicles714_ @2Chronicles714_ When you sin are you "Continuously believing" ? Your take on the Greek tenses in John is Objectively indefensible . It is Gnomic . Thus timeless . Ho Pisteuon absolutely destroys your premise . Further , Aorist past tense usages in Acts 16:31 & Ephesians 2:8-9 destroy your assertion . Reason you Eisegete a "Continuously believing" is in order to posit a behavioral performance component (works righteousness) , because your Object and Content of your "faith" is your Perseverance in the 5 Part Performance Contract till death , payable upon "successful" but NEVER Knowable nor Quantifiable levels of hopefully good enough behavioral performance (works) . You don't believe in Him FOR His doubtless Guarantee of Endless Everlasting Life , apart from all works . Every conceivable Lexical usage indicates its (Ho Pisteuon) timeless tense . You continue to trot out completely impossible grammar . You're literally working for a Free and Never Deserving Gift , and thinking that you're finishing the work that the Christ somehow didn't in His PERFECT work of Redemption (1 John 2:2) . There's no greater blasphemy available than self righteous attempts to steal all the Glory due to the Christ (Jesus) alone . That's precisely what all who look to their Filthy Rags attempts to "come in some other way" are doing .
Lovely music that you added. Unfortunately, it's so loud I could not pick Sproul's voice out from it. So I quit ... and am left wondering what he had to say on this topic. Consider it a win if you are striving to be a disc jockey.
@@ZandJ12345 Let us all rejoice that you did just fine. There are literally millions of people who have tinnitus, ringing in the ears. This makes it very difficult to understand the words you are trying to focus on when there is background noise such as other people talking or music. The vast majority of TH-cam videos that utilize background music keep the volume of the music sufficiently low that it is not a problem. This video is an exception. It's volume is too loud. But, again, I rejoice in your doing just fine.
With all due respect to Grace Evangelical Society, I think some of what you are doing is nitpicking and intentionally looking for fault. It’s quite easy to criticize someone who can’t speak back. There is a true faith and a false faith mentioned in the Bible. Read Matthew 7 and see what Jesus said to those who professed faith in him without obedience. The Bible tells us to examine ourselves to see if we are in the faith. I wouldn’t mind appearing on a video with you to discuss these matters.
*Can You Know That You're Born Again By Looking at Your Fruits? (Matthew 7:15-20)* - Bob Wilkin th-cam.com/video/VUcEYXrw6CA/w-d-xo.html How can you know that you're born again? Can you know by looking for fruit in your life? "Fruit inspection" has been devastating to many people's assurance. Bob Wilkin of the Grace Evangelical Society discusses Matt 7:15-20, "Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves. You will know them by their fruits..." They show that Jesus is talking about identifying false prophets, not about having personal assurance of salvation. *What is the Will of the Father? (Matthew 7:21)* - Bob Wilkin th-cam.com/video/4rdVUT5xRoE/w-d-xo.html Not everyone will enter the kingdom. Some will be excluded. So how do you enter? Jesus said it depends on doing "the will of the Father." What is that? Does that mean doing works, or something else? Bob Wilkin of the Grace Evangelical Society discusses. *Why will Jesus tell many Christians, "I never knew you; depart from Me"? - Matt **7:21**-23* - Bob Wilkin th-cam.com/video/vBFp17tt47k/w-d-xo.html Bob Wilkin examines Matthew 7:21-23 and answers the question, "Why will Jesus tell many Christians, "I never knew you; depart from Me."? Bob Wilkin will also answer the question, "How you can avoid hearing this response from the Lord Jesus Christ?"
*Tests for Genuine Faith - 2 Corinthians 13:5* - Bob Wilkin & Mike Lii th-cam.com/video/pulxKtFBkwI/w-d-xo.html Bob Wilkin and Mike Lii of the Grace Evangelical Society examine 2 Corinthians 13:5. Does 2 Corinthians 13:5 teach that we are to examine or test that we have genuine faith or does 2 Corinthians 13:5 teach that we are to examine ourselves whether we will be approved or disapproved at the Judgment Seat of Christ (eternal rewards)? How does someone know if they are saved?
@@GESvids By this shall all men know that you are my disciples - if you have love one for another. That’s fruit my dear friend. Fruit is also obedience. Most people miss this but please study Matthew 7, especially the last 2 verses where it ties into what has previously been stated. A wise man builds his house on the sand - that’s fruit. The parable of the sower illustrates it perfectly - only one is saved - those who bear fruit. I can sum it up like this: “Behavior follows belief.” Those who truly believe will act differently. There should be continued growth in the area of sanctification. Finally “If any man be in Christ he is a new creation. Old things are passed away. Behold all things have become new,”
*Can You Know That You're Born Again By Looking at Your Fruits? (Matthew 7:15-20)* - Bob Wilkin th-cam.com/video/VUcEYXrw6CA/w-d-xo.html How can you know that you're born again? Can you know by looking for fruit in your life? "Fruit inspection" has been devastating to many people's assurance. Bob Wilkin of the Grace Evangelical Society discusses Matt 7:15-20, "Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves. You will know them by their fruits..." They show that Jesus is talking about identifying false prophets, not about having personal assurance of salvation.
Being a free gracer I don't give a rats arse what any Calvinist has to say. The're all a lost a fart in a thunder storm. In the 2nd clip RC used the term *being saved* implying that salvation is a process, which is totally wrong, as you Bob clearly pointed out @ the 10min mark
@@inpursuitoftruth4905 What is it you're affirming - specifically , precisely , without exception - one must Necessarily believe and Perform until death in order to be born again with irreversible Everlasting Life to enter His Kingdom ?
I think there are a lot of people like me that want to see God's work in our lives as sufficient proof of assurance: *Psalm 73:28* But it is good for me to draw near to God. I have put my trust in the Lord that *_I might declare all thy works._* *1 John 2:27* And now little children, abide in Him, that when he shall appear, *_we may have confidence_* and not be ashamed before Him at His coming. *Psalm 1:3* And he shall be like a tree planted by the rivers of water that bringeth forth his fruit in his season; his leaf also shall not wither and *_whatsoever he doeth shall prosper._*
Like Zane Hodges said if we are honest with ourself we will see more in our life to prove we’re not saved then that we are. And Zane was a very godly man.
Calvinism is for the wise. Luke 10:20-22 Rejoice because your names are written in heaven. Jesus REJOICED over what the FATHER did~! 25 At that time Jesus answered and said, “I thank You, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, that You have HIDDEN these things from the WISE and INTELLIGENT and HAVE REVEALED THEM TO BABES. 26 Even so, Father, for so it seemed good in Your sight. 27 All things have been delivered to Me by My Father, and no one knows the Son except the Father. Nor does anyone know the Father except the Son, and the one to whom the Son wills to reveal Him. Calvinist can’t rejoice because they must persevere in good works till the end of their life to prove they are the elect, and then it’s too late. They are saying things on their death bed like…I hope I don’t hear depart from Me I never knew you.
Matthew 7:21-23 makes it very clear that simply believing in Jesus, even preaching and doing other works in His name while living in continuous unrepentant sin, you will hear I NEVER KNEW YOU DEPART FROM ME YE WORKERS OF INIQUITY. He doesn't know those who are too self righteous to humble themselves and repent and never had a intimate relationship with Him.
@@2Chronicles714_ Do you sin ? Why do you sin at all ? When you sin do you Lose "Temporary/Conditional/Probationary" Life , or Eternal/Everlasting Life ? Do you have "Continuous faith" while sinning ?
Shift your paradigm. God sees our need. He sees our lives from beginning to end. He isn’t willing that any perish. His salvation is freely given when we believe the gospel. Anyone who has passed from death into life belongs to Him forever. We are broken, sinful people. We stupidly continue to sin even after we believe. He’s our only hope and righteousness. If they believed, they are His whether they like it or not.
@@fancimcguffin2227 Yes. But if they have genuinely passed from death unto life, will they fall away from the faith and become ungodly blasphemers? Calvinists would say "no." An Arminian would say that they may have been genuinely saved at one point, but then lost their salvation because ultimately it comes down to man's free will. The problem you have, I think, is that you want ot combine free will with eternal security.
@@robertwheeler1158@robertwheeler1158 You sin . So do I and every other mere human who's ever existed . Looks like you think your Performance isn't as "bad" as others , and therefore you'll DESERVE to enter His Kingdom based upon your "Better than others" Performance (works) . Looks like you're worshipping your Filthy Rags righteousness attempts to "come in some other way" not unlike the Judaizers/Scribes and Pharisees (Matthew 23) . Contradictory to Ephesians 2:8-9 ; Romans 3:20-5:11,11:6,29 ; "Genuinely" is Unknowable and Never Quantifiable , behaviorally (works) . Purely subjective criteria . On your Theological Determinism (Calvinism) you CAN NEVER have doubt free certitude that you're one of the arbitrarily Zapped ones (Elect) short of Perseverance Until death in a hopefully - but Never Knowable - level of Behavioral Performance (works) . Calvinism is the Worst of all possible News , properly understood . It Tops Out at Guesswork . The antithesis of faith in Him FOR His doubtless Guarantee of irrevocable Everlasting Life (John 3:16 & Ephesians 2:8-9) .
@@robertwheeler1158 So , you're OK with Calvin and the Westminster Confession clearly affirming that the author of all Evil is "God"? That's an indefensible Theodicy , if one values Exegesis . I really don't care what Spurgeon , Calvin , MacArthur , Sproul , Washer , James White et al affirm exhaustively , other than to point out that they're clearly Unified in a Monergism that presupposes Monovolitionism . Monovolitionism is the tacit admission of utter Determinism . Thus , humans are devoid of the capacity to do or think otherwise than wholly determined to do so , with Zero ability otherwise . Therefore , the Abortion Doctor who delights in hacking little babes to pieces was just as Determined to do so , as the Pro Lifer outside the Abortion Mill holding a Protest against the murder of the Innocents . Does that make sense in a Universe where the Laws of Logic are Operational ? The question ought to answer itself . On Determinism , humans have no Ontological existence , being completely devoid of a sentience not found in Automatons or Robots . So , on a Determinist view , why would my Rejection of Calvinistic Theological Determinism be any Less caused/authored by this Singular Will than your Monergism? Makes no sense . Reduces to a Cosmic Puppet Show , in actual Fact . Turns humanity into Mear Mannequins . *** Here's what I'm unambiguously affirming , in unmistakable terms : 1. Theological Determinism (Calvinism) is Monovolitionism . Monovolitionism denotes that only One Will has Responsibility for "all things whatsoever that come to pass" (John Calvin) , including Raping , Torturing , and dismembering babies for Fun . 2. The Systematic (T.U.L.I.P) wholly rests upon a Secret (thus Unknowable) Decree that determines "all things whatsoever that come to pass" (John Calvin) , as "god " is the Author of Evil itself : including the Fall of Lucifer/Adam and every conceivable Evil until the end of History . 3. Total inability denotes that humans have no ability to do otherwise than Irresistibly and Unconditionally acted upon , Extrinsically . Therefore , on Calvinism , regeneration Precedes faith , and only a "Gift of faith"/ repentance that perseveres till death" ( inevitably and inexorably) , only given to "some"... for No Known Reason Whatsoever ... eventuates in "eternal salvation" . 4. "P"erseverance of the saints clearly affirms that one must Necessarily Hit the Finish Line in a Never Knowable nor Quantifiable level (%) of hopefully good enough behavioral performance (works) /Faithfulness Obedience/Fruit that will prove one's "Election" . The insurmountable Rub remains however : one can Never have Doubtless Assurance of having irrevocable Everlasting Life as a present and endless possession UNTIL the end of one's life . Therefore , all Subjective tests of one's Performance (Introspective Fruit Inspection) gives the "Best Guess" that one has been "Predestined" by this Singular Will that alone has meticulous Control over "all things whatsoever that come to pass" (Calvin") . Tops Out at Doubt , rather than Objective certitude (faith/belief) . Since Calvin taught Double Predestination , all those who Irresistibly , Unconditionally , Inevitably , and Inexorably end in the lake of fire , were also "Elected " to eternal condemnation, without the slightest shred of possibility otherwise . They were ONLY and ALWAYS created to be damned forever , on Theological Determinism . How one can have Doubtless Certitude that one was arbitrarily and fortuitously "Elected" via behavioral performance Metrics I simply cannot find articulated in the pages of Scripture . *** Therefore , Theological Determinism (Calvinism) is the Worst of all possible News , properly understood . I remain a Zero Point Calvinist . I'm an Atheist with respect to the Theological Determinist caricature of the Only True God of love . Unhappily , it makes many very thoughtful people recoil from the Absolutely Righteous , Holy , Loving , Merciful Lamb of God who takes away the sins of the world , that His Free and Never Deserving Gift of Endless Life can indeed be without Cost to all its recipients: John 4:10-14 . The Biblical God (who cannot lie nor author Evil) loves the whole world so much "that He gave His only Begotten Son , that Whosoever that believes in Him shall not perish but has Everlasting Life" , as a Free and Never Deserving Gift . Little children can easily understand and believe in Him for what He actually Certifies, instantly having irrevocable Life at that moment . Because He cannot lie to the little ones , unfettered by years of self righteous hardening against Grace . No better News , ever (John 3:16 & Ephesians 2:8-9) .
@@robertwheeler1158How much of a "lifestyle change" ? Where in Scripture does Jesus - or any inspired writer of Scripture - state ? : "Whosoever that has a "LIFESTYLE CHANGE" has Everlasting life" ? Objectively quantify that for us please . We have no idea whatsoever what you're attempting to denote by your assertion . I've never gotten a response from this question posed to those attempting to defend works righteousness (Obedience/Fruit/Repentance as a turn from an unknowable % of sin until death is NECESSARY to go to His Kingdom) : How good are you ? How good do you have to be to get to His endless Kingdom ? Show us , from Exegesis of Scripture - the unambiguous , precise , objective , doubtless (%) level of behavioral performance (works) NECESSARY to earn/merit/be rewarded with/DESERVE the Free and Never Deserving Gift of endless Everlasting Life after death , per : 1. Second . 2. Minute . 3. Hour . 4. Day . 5. Week . 6 . Month . 7 . Year . 8 . Decade . 9 . Lifetime . I'll wait for your precise , specific , objectively verifiable reply . To meet the Burden of Proof to sustain your affirmation , make sure that you find this criteria in every Evangelistic/ Justification before God/Everlasting Life passage in Scripture , which would prove that it is indeed NECESSARY .
The Prophet Muhammad, may God bless him and grant him peace, said : * ( I swear ) By the One in Whose Hand is the life of Muhammad, no one from this nation, whether Jew or Christian, hears of me, then dies without believing in that with which I was sent, he will be one of the inmates of the Hell fire *
Why do Christians differ in their religions? Because , All the prophets and messengers, Abraham, Moses and Jesus, peace be upon them, spoke Aramaic, not Hebrew. Aramaic is originally Arabic, because Adam, peace be upon him, the first of the prophets, spoke Arabic, as did the people who lived thousands of years after him, until the last of the prophets, Noah, peace be upon him. The last of the prophets from the lineage of Ishmael, the firstborn son of Abraham, from his wife Hagar, peace be upon them, spoke Arabic. All the revelation that came down to the prophets was in the Arabic language, then the messengers translated it into the language of their people, and God sent a messenger to every nation, and their number is approximately: The messengers are three hundred and some, and the prophets are one hundred thousand and twenty-four thousand. ------------------------- Ishmael In the Abrahamic Covenant or not ? th-cam.com/video/SrC6L7HZ480/w-d-xo.html&ab.
Jesus said to the Samaritan woman that…”You worship what you do not know, we know what we worship for salvation is of the Jews (John 4:22). I would highly recommend you prayerfully study the Gospel of John. It’s the only book in the Bible that has a purpose statement for unbelievers that they may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and that believing you may have LIFE IN HIS NAME. (John 20:30-31) All the other books are written to already born again believers. The born again believers in John 2:23 Jesus would not commit Himself to. That tells us that following Jesus in discipleship is not automatic. Eternal life is REALLY a free gift that MUST be taken freely. One must understand Jesus offer of eternal life in order to believe Him. Jesus is the ONLY Lamb of God that took away the sin of the world, and made everyone savable (See John 1:29; 3:16-18).
Unfortunately, R.C. grew in Calvinistic theology. JMac at one time gave a clear non-Calvinistic gospel. He too succumbed to Calvinism & is all-in with Calvin & not Scripture. There are spiritual forces at work that will keep the unrepentant trapped in their sins, vices & false teachings, IMO
I think that the phrase "trust in Christ alone for JUSTIFICATION" speaks volumes. It indicates that he believed we needed justification and not eternal life.
In one sense you're absolutely correct . In another , the Endless Status of Judicial Justification before God is undeniably a REAL thing : Romans 3:20-5:11 . Imputation of His PERFECT Righteousness is given on the basis of faith in Him , apart from all working (Romans 4:1-8) . But to your point , Everlasting/Eternal Life is the Gift itself , and the Object and Content of one's faith whereby one is irreversibly born again. Belief in the Christ (Jesus) For His Free gift has always and Only been the means of forever Life .
Exactly~! Abraham believed God for what~? Justification no~! Abraham believed God for a seed/eternal life, that Seed was Christ and he rejoiced (Gen 15:1-6; John 8:56; 1 John 3:9; Gal 3:8,16-22). The promise of eternal life, and that is why the Gospel of John never mentions justification one time, but eternal life and life 30 times. The words that will come back and condemn you on the last day is the command of eternal life the Father gave the Son (John 12:47-50). The crystal clear living water is John 6:47 and hasn’t changed 1 Tim 1:16.
First of all, the context of the sermon governs the meaning. I tend to think, R.C. had in mind people who based their justification before God not on the atonement of Jesus but on other things as tradition, keeping of the law or good deeds. Trust in Christ or trust in the declaration of God that you are considered (it's a legal declaration of God) right before him, not on your merits but on Christ's.
@@raltar3855 No need. I simply checked his preaching and found it to be non Scriptural and divisive. Imagine teaching the doctrine of a cold blooded killer-Calvin. Its embarrassing to the Savior that anyone listened to him. You should probably check to see if youre saved-believing a works based Gospel sends you down, not up.
@fredost1504 I suppose you think all you must do is utter I believe in Jesus at some point in your life repentance isnt required and your conduct is irrelevant and once saved always saved
@@2Chronicles714_ Repentance is not faith . Only faith in Him FOR His Free and Never Deserving Gift of Endless Everlasting Life regenerates . Or , it's a Performance Contract , which is impossible: Ephesians 2:8-9 ; Romans 3:20-5:11,11:6,29 ; Titus 3:5 ; Philippians 3:9 ; book of Galatians . All unbelievers in Him FOR His doubtless Guarantee of Endless Everlasting Life remain with Zero access to 1 John 1:6-9 . The New Man/New Nature is the Free Gift itself (Everlasting Life imputed apart from all working) . You Obviously deny the present possession of His Free and Never Deserving Gift (Everlasting Life) . So , very obviously , one who believes that is yet unregenerate . No fellowship forgiveness available to them looking to their Perseverance in Performance (works) as the Decisive Factor in their Everlasting destination . Confession of sin isn't - once - a Condition of being born again with irreversible Everlasting Life in Scripture . Nor is Repentance . Nor Discipleship . Nor a "Gift of faith" Irresistibly and Unconditionally Zapped into Hapless Meat Robots . Ever . So , you STILL don't make any sense . Noone who hasn't believed in Him for what He actually Certifies , is born again with endless Everlasting Life . Your works righteousness soteriology denies the Objective possession of His Free and Never Deserving Gift without - first - a Lifetime of hopefully good enough behavioral performance (works) . Therefore , incoherence underscores your every comment .
When someone holds a doctorate in theology and still be so wrong about Salvation as laid out in scriptures, PhD cannon,y stand for: Piled high and Deep!!
The Calvinists believe Christ saved only the elect at the cross. The Arminians believe Christ saved nobody at the cross. I believe Christ saved everybody at the cross. Check out the Concordant Publishing Concern and dump the traditions
I don't believe YOU . Not one passage of Scripture states what you just indicated . Your entire premise omits another proposition : That only those who believe in Him FOR His doubtless Guarantee of irrevocable Everlasting Life are born again with His Life that cannot be lost . His work of Redemption doesn't automatically give Life eternal to all people . One must believe in Him FOR Life (John 20:31) to acquire endless Life/eternal Justification before God/imputation of His PERFECT Righteousness . Faith in the Christ (Jesus) as the One who gives the living Water (John 4:1-39) removes any thirst for eternity . That He took all the sins of the world away as the Lamb of God , is undeniable . His full Propitiation is likewise clear (1 John 2:2) . He did All the Work Himself that His Free and Never Deserving Gift of irrevocable Life can indeed be without Cost to all its recipients . Noone is forever condemned because of one's sins . The only cause is unbelief in Him (John 3:18 ; Revelation 20:15) . Thus , they aren't found in the Book of Life : the reason for Everlasting condemnation .
Trusting and believing are not the same. I believe Bob Wilkin is a real person but since I never had an intimate personal relationship with Bob I can't say I trust in Him. This is what Jesus is speaking about in Matthew 7:21-23. These people obviously believed in Jesus as unbelievers wouldn't do those works mentioned that He told us to do. However their belief was superficial, they did not trust in Jesus making Him Lord and Savior, so He was not their Shepherd since they never had an intimate relationship with Him. Only those who are a new creation in Christ (2 Corinthians 5:17) as a result of repentance are Jesus's sheep and follow him. Jesus uses the word "knows" as in an intimate way just like that word is used throughout scripture. They believed repentance is not a requirement, or it's works and conduct was irrelevant to being saved. Jesus wouldn't refer to what He commanded us to do as iniquity or lawlessness God didn't know them because they hadn't been regenerated Jesus say ye worker of iniquity. Iniquity is continuous unrepentant sin. Psalms 36:12 There are the workers of iniquity fallen: they are cast down, and shall not be able to rise Titus 1:16 They profess that they "know" God; but in works they deny him, being abominable, and disobedient, and unto every good works reprobate. 2 Timothy 2:19 Nevertheless, God’s solid foundation stands firm, sealed with this inscription The Lord "knows" those who are his, and, “EVERYONE WHO CONFESSED THE NAME OF THE LORD MUST TURN AWAY FROM WICKEDNESS.” Nahum 1:7 The LORD is good, a strong hold in the day of trouble; and he "knoweth" them that trust in him. John 17:3 And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent. 1 John 3:6 No one who lives in him keeps on sinning. No one who continues to sin has either seen him or known him.
You think you're behavioral performance (works) will DESERVE entrance into His Kingdom . Eternally impossible to attain a Free and Never Deserving Gift that way . 5 year olds can easily understand that .
@soljos1190 Are you a true repentant believer? 2 Corinthians 13:5 Examine yourselves, to see whether you are in the faith. Test yourselves. Or do you not realize this about yourselves, that Jesus Christ is in you?-unless indeed you fail to meet the test!" If a work of God does not continue than its not a work of God. If you fall short of the test repent and believe. Cry out to God for mercy until a work is done To test yourself to see if you're a real Christian read 1John. 1John 3:3-10 And everyone who thus hopes in him purifies himself as he is pure. 4Everyone who makes a practice of sinning also practices lawlessness; sin is lawlessness. 5You know that he appeared in order to take away sins, and in him there is no sin. 6No one who abides in him keeps on sinning; no one who keeps on sinning has either seen him or known him. 7Little children, let no one deceive you. Whoever practices righteousness is righteous, as he is righteous. 8Whoever makes a practice of sinning is of the devil, for the devil has been sinning from the beginning. The reason the Son of God appeared was to destroy the works of the devil. 9No one born of God makes a practice of sinning, for God’s seed abides in him; and he cannot keep on sinning, because he has been born of God. 10By this it is evident who are the children of God, and who are the children of the devil: whoever does not practice righteousness is not of God, nor is the one who does not love his brother. 1 John 1:5-7 This is the message we have heard from him and proclaim to you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all 6If we say we have fellowship with him while we walk in darkness, we lie and do not practice the truth. 7But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus his Son cleanses us from all sin. What does it mean to walk in darkness? A style of life.If we say we are a Christian and our lifestyle contradicts everything God has told us about Himself and His will we are a liar. If our lifestyle contradicts God's character then claiming to be a Christian is a lie. Not talking about unscriptual sinless perfection. Even a very mature Christian is susceptible to sin. Someone that has truly been born again will be sensitive to sin and they will be led to repentance and confession to that sin. 1 John 1:8-10 IF we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. 9 IF we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. 10 IF we say we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us. When was the last time you were broken over a sin because you knew it was against Gods will? If you are sensitive to sin it will lead you to confession.
@@2Chronicles714_I guarantee that your lifestyle contradicts God's character way more than you know. So, that's a terrible argument. God requires absolute perfection. The only way to absolute perfection is to receive the gift of Christ's righteousness. Because yours is really far off.
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John mcarthur in 1975 started by believing Jesus Christ alone for salvation, unfortunately he got carried away by different kinds of teachings which is 100% crystal clear if you listen to his statements today he has muddied the water with falsehood. May God have mercy on his soul and John mcarthur returns to his first love JESUS CHRIST ALONE FOR SALVATION.
I agree 100%. Maybe they both didn’t understand 2 Cor. 11:3
He started reading the works of the puritans and got mean.
He’s teaching a false gospel now.
He took a sabbatical in about 1979. People in his church said he came back with a different message and attitude about salvation. Calvinism got ahold of him. Yes, the Puritans changed him .
Based upon what I’ve researched on MacArthur, I believe he feared a takeover of his church by the Jesus Freaks - led by Lonnie Frisbee in the late to mid 70’s, or various JF groups. Fearing that and based upon what he thought was nationwide carnality, he went on sabbatical and created a different gospel (Gal 1:6-12). Lordship built a revolving gate to heaven, letting in only those who were 100% obedient, sexually pure, conservative, moral. The gate closed on anyone who did not meet those guidelines. The issue wasn’t belief in Christ, but “are you obedient? Moral?” - Billy Graham’s theology on steroids. When his book TGATJ was published, it swept Protestantism like a free electron. Gone was Christ’s death on the Cross, the Cross itself, grace, freewill. Churches now turned inward: believers began judging each others works. Are you elect? Where’s your fruit? “Tom’s daughter is living with her bf, I guess she’s not elect. Her parents haven’t been to church in a week … I guess they are not elect.” Lordship became a blame game. Sold to the Christian mainline for $17.99 a copy, now extant throughout much of the Protestant world. Based upon what I’ve researched - I’m assuming MacArthur feared the hippies and insulated himself and his church from the movement not by preaching the free grace gospel but by creating a new one, a false theology. “Let’s help God.”
@@RickZolaBuckeyeBelieverThat explains why in 1981 or 82 my pastor warned us about what he called MacArthurism.
I thank God for your consistency in emphasizing belief in Christ and his Word for assurance. 🎉
My hope is built on nothing less
Than Jesus’ blood and righteousness;
I dare not trust the sweetest frame,
But wholly lean on Jesus’ name.
Refrain:
On Christ, the solid Rock, I stand;
All other ground is sinking sand,
All other ground is sinking sand.
When darkness veils His lovely face,
I rest on His unchanging grace;
In every high and stormy gale,
My anchor holds within the veil.
His oath, His covenant, His blood
Support me in the whelming flood;
When all around my soul gives way,
He then is all my hope and stay.
When He shall come with trumpet sound,
Oh, may I then in Him be found;
Dressed in His righteousness alone,
Faultless to stand before the throne.
Many "scholars" want to make it seem like the Bible is complex and most people need preachers or priests to explain everything to them regarding the Bible and salvation. But the Bible explains to us that even a child understands how salvation works. Maybe more scholars should start thinking like a child.
Exactly ~! It’s God who brings the increase and only to babes.
Jesus REJOICED over what the FATHER did~!
25 At that time Jesus answered and said, “I thank You, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, that You have HIDDEN these things from the WISE and INTELLIGENT and HAVE REVEALED THEM TO BABES. 26 Even so, Father, for so it seemed good in Your sight. 27 All things have been delivered to Me by My Father, and no one knows the Son except the Father. Nor does anyone know the Father except the Son, and the one to whom the Son wills to reveal Him.
However, the Bible does tell us that God calls, equips, gifts, and appoints pastors for our blessing. The overwhelming majority of ministers work very hard to fulfill God's call and help teach the Word to people and people understand the Word better and are closer to God because of them.
@@timleehenderson Who are you kidding the majority by far are false teachers, and their followers are scarred to death their going to hell because they have been taught to look to their works to prove they are saved.
@timleehenderson The overwhelming majority? Boy, you definitely are deceived if you believe that!
@AlvinFen
You are the one who follows a grace perverting false teacher who has deceived many.
Sproul, on his deathbed, was begging for prayer as he doubted whether or not he was saved. So much for knowing he was regenerated! I would be the same if I believed his theology. The only true reformed theology is free grace theology.
That's delusional
How do you know what he was doing and doubting on his deathbed
@@LilacDaisy2 A video from a reformed church had pastors asking for prayer for this gentleman on his deathbed. I also felt concerned for him. If I can find this link, I’ll post it to you here.
@@krisjustin3884 thank you so much!
@@LilacDaisy2 You’re very welcome. So sorry I can’t yet find the actual footage of someone relaying his request for prayer to deal with his moments of doubt in his final hours. Thankfully, it seems his prayer was answered, as it is reported that ‘he died peacefully’. He was a lovely, humble man who ultimately knew he was saved by faith alone, despite the confusion of Calvinistic theology.
2nd chronicle, you think your behavior is good enough now. Your works are good enough and you don’t sin “too bad”, you won’t ever cross the line of sinning too much. Answer this question, where is the line? Oh when did your righteousness surpass filthy rags?
2 Corinthians 13:5 Examine yourselves, to see whether you are in the faith. Test yourselves. Or do you not realize this about yourselves, that Jesus Christ is in you?-unless indeed you fail to meet the test!"
If a work of God does not continue than its not a work of God.
If you fall short of the test repent and believe.
Cry out to God for mercy until a work is done
To test yourself to see if you're a real Christian read 1John.
1John 3:3-10 And everyone who thus hopes in him purifies himself as he is pure.
4Everyone who makes a practice of sinning also practices lawlessness; sin is lawlessness. 5You know that he appeared in order to take away sins, and in him there is no sin. 6No one who abides in him keeps on sinning; no one who keeps on sinning has either seen him or known him. 7Little children, let no one deceive you. Whoever practices righteousness is righteous, as he is righteous. 8Whoever makes a practice of sinning is of the devil, for the devil has been sinning from the beginning. The reason the Son of God appeared was to destroy the works of the devil. 9No one born of God makes a practice of sinning, for God’s seed abides in him; and he cannot keep on sinning, because he has been born of God. 10By this it is evident who are the children of God, and who are the children of the devil: whoever does not practice righteousness is not of God, nor is the one who does not love his brother.
1 John 1:5-7
This is the message we have heard from him and proclaim to you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all 6If we say we have fellowship with him while we walk in darkness, we lie and do not practice the truth. 7But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus his Son cleanses us from all sin.
What does it mean to walk in darkness? A style of life.If we say we are a Christian and our lifestyle contradicts everything God has told us about Himself and His will we are a liar.
If our lifestyle contradicts God's character then claiming to be a Christian is a lie. Not talking about unscriptual sinless perfection. Even a very mature Christian is susceptible to sin. Someone that has truly been born again will be sensitive to sin and they will be led to repentance and confession to that sin.
1 John 1:8-10
IF we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. 9 IF we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. 10 IF we say we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.
When was the last time you were broken over a sin because you knew it was against Gods will?
If you are sensitive to sin it will lead you to confession.
Galatians 5:24
Those who belong to Christ Jesus have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires.
2 Corinthians 5:15,17
and He died for all, that those who live should live no longer for themselves, but for Him who died for them and rose again.
17Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; old things have passed away; behold, all things have become new.
These are the people Jesus is coming for.
1 Corinthians 15:23
But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.
IF I sin I cry out to God for forgiveness.
Not only must we confess sin (1John1:9)
but we must forsake it. Run away from it. One old definition of repentance is to leave the sin I've done before, and show I've earnestly grieved by doing it no more.
Too many today are preaching a perverted gospel to make it as palatable as possible. They give them a shot of love and grace without any warning of a looming judgment of hell for any who think because of grace they can continue living no different than before.
Those that believe that a change of conduct [Repenting of sin] is works are making our Lord's death on the cross meaningless.
He didn't die for sins to give a green light to live like a demon.
Galatians 6:7-8
Do not be deceived: God cannot be mocked. A man reaps what he sows. 8Whoever sows to please their flesh, from the flesh will reap destruction; whoever sows to please the Spirit, from the Spirit will reap eternal life.
A rebirth in Jesus means a new heart, a new mind, a new spirit, a new person.
Isaiah 64:5
You come to the help of those who gladly do right,
who remember your ways.
But when we continued to sin against them,
you were angry.
How then can we be saved?
IF you love anyone or anything more than Jesus, it's an idol.
IF Jesus preached the way many do today, they wouldn't have crucified Him.
@@2Chronicles714_ All you do is contradict Scripture with Scripture. Being in the faith is a fellowship issue not an eternal life issue, because at the moment of faith the believer has passed from death into life. John 5:24
@@AlvinFen
You follow a grace perverting false teacher.
2 Corinthians 13:5 Examine yourselves, to see whether you are in the faith. Test yourselves. Or do you not realize this about yourselves, that Jesus Christ is in you?-unless indeed you fail to meet the test!"
If a work of God does not continue than its not a work of God.
If you fall short of the test repent and believe.
Cry out to God for mercy until a work is done
To test yourself to see if you're a real Christian read 1John.
1John 3:3-10 And everyone who thus hopes in him purifies himself as he is pure.
4Everyone who makes a practice of sinning also practices lawlessness; sin is lawlessness. 5You know that he appeared in order to take away sins, and in him there is no sin. 6No one who abides in him keeps on sinning; no one who keeps on sinning has either seen him or known him. 7Little children, let no one deceive you. Whoever practices righteousness is righteous, as he is righteous. 8Whoever makes a practice of sinning is of the devil, for the devil has been sinning from the beginning. The reason the Son of God appeared was to destroy the works of the devil. 9No one born of God makes a practice of sinning, for God’s seed abides in him; and he cannot keep on sinning, because he has been born of God. 10By this it is evident who are the children of God, and who are the children of the devil: whoever does not practice righteousness is not of God, nor is the one who does not love his brother.
1 John 1:5-7
This is the message we have heard from him and proclaim to you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all 6If we say we have fellowship with him while we walk in darkness, we lie and do not practice the truth. 7But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus his Son cleanses us from all sin.
What does it mean to walk in darkness? A style of life.If we say we are a Christian and our lifestyle contradicts everything God has told us about Himself and His will we are a liar.
If our lifestyle contradicts God's character then claiming to be a Christian is a lie. Not talking about unscriptual sinless perfection. Even a very mature Christian is susceptible to sin. Someone that has truly been born again will be sensitive to sin and they will be led to repentance and confession to that sin.
1 John 1:8-10
IF we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. 9 IF we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. 10 IF we say we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.
When was the last time you were broken over a sin because you knew it was against Gods will?
If you are sensitive to sin it will lead you to confession.
IF I sin I cry out to God for forgiveness.
Not only must we confess sin (1John1:9)
but we must forsake it. Run away from it. One old definition of repentance is to leave the sin I've done before, and show I've earnestly grieved by doing it no more.
If a man is genuinely born again, all old things are passed away, all things have become new.( 2 Corinthians 5:17)
Too many today are preaching a perverted gospel to make it as palatable as possible. They give them a shot of love and grace without any warning of a looming judgment of hell for any who think because of grace they can continue living no different than before.
Those that believe that a change of conduct [Repenting of sin] is works are making our Lord's death on the cross meaningless.
He didn't die for sins to give a green light to live like a demon.
Galatians 6:7-8
Do not be deceived: God cannot be mocked. A man reaps what he sows. 8Whoever sows to please their flesh, from the flesh will reap destruction; whoever sows to please the Spirit, from the Spirit will reap eternal life.
A rebirth in Jesus means a new heart, a new mind, a new spirit, a new person.
Galatians 5:24
And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.
IF you love anyone or anything more than Jesus, it's an idol.
IF Jesus preached the way many do today, they wouldn't have crucified Him.
@@2Chronicles714_
@2Chronicles714_
All unbelievers in Him FOR His doubtless Guarantee of Endless Everlasting Life remain with Zero access to 1 John 1:6-9 .
The New Man/New Nature is the Free Gift itself (Everlasting Life imputed apart from all working) .
You Obviously deny the present possession of His Free and Never Deserving Gift (Everlasting Life) .
So , very obviously , one who believes that is yet unregenerate .
No fellowship forgiveness available to them looking to their Perseverance in Performance (works) as the Decisive Factor in their Everlasting destination .
Confession of sin isn't - once - a Condition of being born again with irreversible Everlasting Life in Scripture .
Nor is Repentance .
Nor Discipleship .
Nor a "Gift of faith" Irresistibly and Unconditionally Zapped into Hapless Meat Robots .
Ever .
So , you STILL don't make any sense .
Noone who hasn't believed in Him for what He actually Certifies , is born again with endless Everlasting Life .
Your works righteousness soteriology denies the Objective possession of His Free and Never Deserving Gift without - first - a Lifetime of hopefully good enough behavioral performance (works) .
Therefore , incoherence underscores your every comment .
Jesus said clearly that we should examine ourselves in the light of Scripture and see if we are in the faith. Justification is a legal declaration of God that we have been declared just before God on Jesus' merits on the Cross. R.C.Sproul is right. A man who claims that Jesus' righteousness has been transferred to him, needs to live accordingly. He points to the fruits of their faith and that's exactly what Jesus will say to the so-called Christians: I never knew you those of you who lived (lifestyle) in lawlessness. You should preach the whole Gospel, not just a part of it.
*Why will Jesus tell many Christians, "I never knew you; depart from Me"? - Matt **7:21**-23* - Bob Wilkin
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Bob Wilkin examines Matthew 7:21-23 and answers the question, "Why will Jesus tell many Christians, "I never knew you; depart from Me."? Bob Wilkin will also answer the question, "How you can avoid hearing this response from the Lord Jesus Christ?"
Jesus didn't say that, the apostle Paul said that. But, he was being sarcastic because the believers were questioning his apostleship because of the false teachers. He was basically telling them that if they are questioning his salvation they should question their own because they believed the message of the Gospel when he preached it to them. So, if he wasn't saved, neither were they. Right after that he tells them to acknowledge that they have the Holy Spirit and if they don't, he doesn't. If they do, so does he. There is never a reason for a believer to question his salvation. Others might question you, but a believer should KNOW he has eternal life because he has the Holy Spirit.
If anyone be in Christ he’s a new creation behold the old is gone and the new has come. The RESULTS of saving faith is supernatural change of a new heart after spiritual surgery.
How much of a "lifestyle change" ?
Where in Scripture does Jesus - or any inspired writer of Scripture - state ? :
"Whosoever that has a "LIFESTYLE CHANGE" has Everlasting life" ?
Objectively quantify that for us please .
We have no idea whatsoever what you're attempting to denote by your assertion .
I've never gotten a response from this question posed to those attempting to defend works righteousness (Obedience/Fruit/Repentance as a turn from an unknowable % of sin until death is NECESSARY to go to His Kingdom) :
How good are you ?
How good do you have to be to get to His endless Kingdom ?
Show us , from Exegesis of Scripture - the unambiguous , precise , objective , doubtless (%) level of behavioral performance (works) NECESSARY to earn/merit/be rewarded with/DESERVE the Free and Never Deserving Gift of endless Everlasting Life after death , per :
1. Second .
2. Minute .
3. Hour .
4. Day .
5. Week .
6 . Month .
7 . Year .
8 . Decade .
9 . Lifetime .
I'll wait for your precise , specific , objectively verifiable reply .
To meet the Burden of Proof to sustain your affirmation , make sure that you find this criteria in every Evangelistic/ Justification before God/Everlasting Life passage in Scripture , which would prove that it is indeed NECESSARY .
And what about the grace that says no to ungodliness and worldly passions, to live self controlled, upright and godly lives in this present age while we wait for the blessed hope, the glorious appearing of our great God and Savior, Jesus Christ, spoken of in Titus 🤔 What a dangerous message to just believe Jobn 3:16 and go live your life anyway you like. Sounds like ungodly men turning the grace of God into lasciviousness spoken of in Jude😮
What is it you're affirming - specifically , precisely , and without exception - one must Necessarily believe and Perform till death , in order to be born again with irrevocable Everlasting Life to enter His Kingdom ?
Titus 3:5 Not by WORKS of righteousness which we have done, but according ton his mercy he saved us, by the washing of REGENERATION , and renewing of the Holy Ghost..... verse 7 the being justified by his GRACE
Sproul's first clip is ambiguous , at best .
His subsequent clarification reduces to Soteriological Agnosticism : "Regeneration preceeds faith" is supposed to filter out all the Mud in the Water ?
So , on his Theological Determinism (Calvinism) one is fortuitously "Elect" IF one is "Regenerate" ?
And Sproul's "Infallible Metric" for determining whether one IS or ISN'T one of those Irresistibly and Unconditionally "Chosen/Predestined" ?
The same "Infallible Metric" employed by MacArthur , Piper , Justin Peters , Paul Washer , Voddie Baucham, Alan Parr , every Arminian Theologian , Roman Catholicism , Eastern Orthodoxy , Mormonism , Church of Christ (etc.) :
One's Perseverance in Performance (works) till death .
The antithesis of His Objective Guarantee of Endless Everlasting Life (John 3:16 & Ephesians 2:8-9 .
Tops Out at utter Unknowabilty .
The very definition of Subjectivity when introspection of an already imperfect and fallen nature is somehow a "reliable" Baroneter .
Infinitely better Odds nailing Tapioca Pudding to the Wall .
@@timgrady4630 Amen .
Theological Determinism (Calvinism) is the Worst of all possible News , ever , properly understood .
The real Bottom Line with Sproul & His Lordship Salvation teaching is clarified by one of his final sermons when he literally Fear s "waking up in Hell" .
Logically consistent with His Theological Determinism (Calvinism) where the "P"erseverance of the saints" Tops Out at Guesswork of one's Everlasting destination , based upon one's never Quantifiable level of hopefully good enough behavioral performance (works) .
The sure recipe for Doubt .
The Antithesis of faith in Him for His doubtless Guarantee of Endless Everlasting Life .
GOOD ONE THANK YOU
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Repentance is a must ..
Repentance is works .
Not faith .
Only simple childlike faith in Him FOR His doubtless Guarantee of Endless Everlasting Life regenerates forever :
John 3:16 & Ephesians 2:8-9 .
@@soljos1190 Biblical repentance is a change of mind from unbelief to belief, repentance is not "turning from sins"
@dostoyevski9423
Unbelief is a sin.
It's not the only sin however.
So repent means change your mind about your sinfulled life ALL SINS,INCLUDING UNBELIEF,false gods,
witchcraft,self righteousness,idols etc.
@@2Chronicles714_
You're a sinner .
So am I and every mere human .
How many sins did Jesus Judicially Propitiate ?
Some , or all of them ?
Why do you sin at all ?
How much sin that you - Personally - commit , will disqualify you for entrance into His Kingdom ?
When you sin , do you Lose/Forfeit Temporary /Conditional/ Probationary "life" , or Eternal/Everlasting Life ?
Mr Sproul. Great teacher.
Teacher of Doubt of one's Everlasting destination based upon purely subjective behavioral criteria .
Antithetical to His Objective Promise of Never Ending Life simply by childlike faith in Him FOR it: John 3:16 & Ephesians 2:8-9 .
Good thing the Bible doesn’t change its view of this.
Assurance = John 5:24 & John 6:35, 40, 47-48.
Thank you Mr Wilkin. A verse of scripture came to my heart as I was listening to this presentation. Ephesians 4 verse 14 KJV..that we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive;
Here's one that comes to mind for those who teach your conduct is irrelevant as long as you've said "I believe".
Jude 4
For certain individuals WHOSE CONDEMNATION WAS WRITTEN ABOUT LONG AGO HAVE SECRETLY SLIPPED IN AMONG YOU THEY ARE UNGODLY PEOPLE WHO PERVERT THE GRACE OF OUR GOD INTO A LICENSE FOR IMMORALITY AND DENY JESUS CHRIST OUR ONLY SOVEREIGN AND LORD.
@@2Chronicles714_How much of a "lifestyle change" ?
Where in Scripture does Jesus - or any inspired writer of Scripture - state ? :
"Whosoever that has a "LIFESTYLE CHANGE" has Everlasting life" ?
Objectively quantify that for us please .
We have no idea whatsoever what you're attempting to denote by your assertion .
I've never gotten a response from this question posed to those attempting to defend works righteousness (Obedience/Fruit/Repentance as a turn from an unknowable % of sin until death is NECESSARY to go to His Kingdom) :
How good are you ?
How good do you have to be to get to His endless Kingdom ?
Show us , from Exegesis of Scripture - the unambiguous , precise , objective , doubtless (%) level of behavioral performance (works) NECESSARY to earn/merit/be rewarded with/DESERVE the Free and Never Deserving Gift of endless Everlasting Life after death , per :
1. Second .
2. Minute .
3. Hour .
4. Day .
5. Week .
6 . Month .
7 . Year .
8 . Decade .
9 . Lifetime .
I'll wait for your precise , specific , objectively verifiable reply .
To meet the Burden of Proof to sustain your affirmation , make sure that you find this criteria in every Evangelistic/ Justification before God/Everlasting Life passage in Scripture , which would prove that it is indeed NECESSARY .
@@2Chronicles714_
@2Chronicles714_
You're a sinner .
So am I and every mere human .
How many sins did Jesus Judicially Propitiate ?
Some , or all of them ?
Why do you sin at all ?
How much sin that you - Personally - commit , will disqualify you for entrance into His Kingdom ?
When you sin , do you Lose/Forfeit Temporary /Conditional/ Probationary "life" , or Eternal/Everlasting Life ?
@@2Chronicles714_@2Chronicles714_ How much of a "lifestyle change" ?
Where in Scripture does Jesus - or any inspired writer of Scripture - state ? :
"Whosoever that has a "LIFESTYLE CHANGE" has Everlasting life" ?
Objectively quantify that for us please .
We have no idea whatsoever what you're attempting to denote by your assertion .
I've never gotten a response from this question posed to those attempting to defend works righteousness (Obedience/Fruit/Repentance as a turn from an unknowable % of sin until death is NECESSARY to go to His Kingdom) :
How good are you ?
How good do you have to be to get to His endless Kingdom ?
Show us , from Exegesis of Scripture - the unambiguous , precise , objective , doubtless (%) level of behavioral performance (works) NECESSARY to earn/merit/be rewarded with/DESERVE the Free and Never Deserving Gift of endless Everlasting Life after death , per :
1. Second .
2. Minute .
3. Hour .
4. Day .
5. Week .
6 . Month .
7 . Year .
8 . Decade .
9 . Lifetime .
I'll wait for your precise , specific , objectively verifiable reply .
To meet the Burden of Proof to sustain your affirmation , make sure that you find this criteria in every Evangelistic/ Justification before God/Everlasting Life passage in Scripture , which would prove that it is indeed NECESSARY .
One only has to watch how he died to understand what calvinism produces in the human spirit. He was scared to death of going to hell. That's most likely exactly where he is. He did NOT believe in Christ and thats the only sin that can take a person to hell.
Millions of people who believe in Jesus will be cast into the lake of fire.
Those who claim believe only and reject repentance are decieved.
Read Matt 7:21-23 &
Luke 13:24-28
@@2Chronicles714_That's a verifiable Lie .
Only those whose names aren't found in the Book of Life are cast into the endless lake of fire , caused by their unbelief in Him FOR His doubtless Guarantee of irrevocable Everlasting Life:
John 3:16 & Ephesians 2:8-9) .
All who follow your works righteousness soteriology and Never come to faith in Him for His Free and Never Deserving Gift , are the ones Eternally condemned .
@@2Chronicles714_
The Final Judgment
October 7, 2016 by GES Webmaster in Blog - Bob Wilkin, Final Judgment, Propitiation, Sin, Universal Atonement
by Zane Hodges
In John’s well-known description of the Final Judgment in Revelation 20:11-14, we do not even find a reference to sins, much less a reference to unforgiven sins. Instead, we are told, “the dead were judged acording to theirworks, by the things which were written in the books” (Rev 20:12; italics added). To be sure, the works of unsaved people contain innumerable sins, but it is still significant that sin per se is not referred to, as we will point out in a moment.
Yet even though unsaved people are judged on the basis of their works,they are not condemned to hell on that basis! On the contrary we read, “Anyone not found written in the Book of Life was cast into the lake of fire” (Rev 20:15; italics added). People go to hell, therefore, because they do not have life!
This is precisely what we might have concluded from the theme statement of the Fourth Gospel: “but these are written that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and that believing you may have life in His name” (John 20:31; italics added). It is also evident in John 5:24 where our Lord states that the believer “shall not come into judgment, but has passed from death into life” (italics added). We conclude, therefore, that the possession oflife is the critical issue between God and man in terms of eternal judgment. There is no Final Judgment to determine one’s eternal destiny if he already possesses life.
But sin is not the critical issue. Why not? John’s own writings tell us why. According to John, Jesus is “the Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world” (John 1:29); and “He Himself is the propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only but also for the whole world” (1 John 2:2). The hymn writer was correct when he said that “Jesus paid it all”!
So marvelously complete and full is the sacrificial death of Christ for our sins that God’s justice is satisfied by that sacrifice and no man is condemned to hell on the grounds of his sins. But by the same token, the cross of Christ does not automatically regenerate men and women. They still need to obtainlife and this is available to them on one basis only: faith in Christ.
But then, one might ask, why do men’s works come up at all? The reason must surely be that at the Final Judgment mankind will get a full and fair hearing. Since multitudes have supposed that they can reach heaven by their works, these works will be examined on that day. But as Scripture already informs us, no man can be saved by his works (Eph 2:8-9; Titus 3:5; Rom 3:20).
The outcome of the final examination of the works of the lost is a foregone conclusion. Any claim to God’s salvation that is based on the deeds a person has done will be swept away by the contents of the books that are opened at the judgment. Man’s one last hope will rest in the Book of Life, which will be duly consulted even though those being judged do not have their names written there. But the absence of their names from its pages is the basis on which the lost are cast into the lake of fire.
Thus one can see that the issue at the Final Judgment is not man’s sin, since Christ has atoned for that in its entirety. Instead, the issue is whether someone can make it into the kingdom of God on the basis of the works they did on earth, apart from the miracle of new birth that comes by faith alone. But as the Lord Jesus informed Nicodemus, “Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God” (John 3:3).
This article is excerpted from Harmony With God by Zane Hodges
The Final Judgment
October 7, 2016 by GES Webmaster in Blog - Bob Wilkin, Final Judgment, Propitiation, Sin, Universal Atonement
by Zane Hodges
In John’s well-known description of the Final Judgment in Revelation 20:11-14, we do not even find a reference to sins, much less a reference to unforgiven sins. Instead, we are told, “the dead were judged acording to theirworks, by the things which were written in the books” (Rev 20:12; italics added). To be sure, the works of unsaved people contain innumerable sins, but it is still significant that sin per se is not referred to, as we will point out in a moment.
Yet even though unsaved people are judged on the basis of their works,they are not condemned to hell on that basis! On the contrary we read, “Anyone not found written in the Book of Life was cast into the lake of fire” (Rev 20:15; italics added). People go to hell, therefore, because they do not have life!
This is precisely what we might have concluded from the theme statement of the Fourth Gospel: “but these are written that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and that believing you may have life in His name” (John 20:31; italics added). It is also evident in John 5:24 where our Lord states that the believer “shall not come into judgment, but has passed from death into life” (italics added). We conclude, therefore, that the possession oflife is the critical issue between God and man in terms of eternal judgment. There is no Final Judgment to determine one’s eternal destiny if he already possesses life.
But sin is not the critical issue. Why not? John’s own writings tell us why. According to John, Jesus is “the Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world” (John 1:29); and “He Himself is the propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only but also for the whole world” (1 John 2:2). The hymn writer was correct when he said that “Jesus paid it all”!
So marvelously complete and full is the sacrificial death of Christ for our sins that God’s justice is satisfied by that sacrifice and no man is condemned to hell on the grounds of his sins. But by the same token, the cross of Christ does not automatically regenerate men and women. They still need to obtainlife and this is available to them on one basis only: faith in Christ.
But then, one might ask, why do men’s works come up at all? The reason must surely be that at the Final Judgment mankind will get a full and fair hearing. Since multitudes have supposed that they can reach heaven by their works, these works will be examined on that day. But as Scripture already informs us, no man can be saved by his works (Eph 2:8-9; Titus 3:5; Rom 3:20).
The outcome of the final examination of the works of the lost is a foregone conclusion. Any claim to God’s salvation that is based on the deeds a person has done will be swept away by the contents of the books that are opened at the judgment. Man’s one last hope will rest in the Book of Life, which will be duly consulted even though those being judged do not have their names written there. But the absence of their names from its pages is the basis on which the lost are cast into the lake of fire.
Thus one can see that the issue at the Final Judgment is not man’s sin, since Christ has atoned for that in its entirety. Instead, the issue is whether someone can make it into the kingdom of God on the basis of the works they did on earth, apart from the miracle of new birth that comes by faith alone. But as the Lord Jesus informed Nicodemus, “Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God” (John 3:3).
This article is excerpted from Harmony With God by Zane Hodges
Eph 1:12 Trusted in Christ, Eph 1:13 after that ye believed...ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise. Eph 1:14 which is the EARNEST of our salvation. Trust and believe are synonymns. The fact of being sealed with the Holy Spirit is our assurance.
Simple Gospel. Simple Truth!
Unless your simple Gospel has Jesus as the Christ the giver of eternal life you have no good news. Jesus promise of eternal life is completely OBJECTIVE therefore it brings CERTAINTY. If you add 1 Cor 15:1-4 you’re adding something that is conditioned on persevering “if” you hold fast. Which is written to already born again believers. Jesus promise of eternal life only comes by divine revelation.
See these verses John 6:44-45,65; 12:47-50 when they hear the command the Father gave the Son to speak there is a spiritual resurrection they pass out of death and into life John 5:24-25. Jesus said the hour “now is” that the spiritually dead will hear the voice of the Son of God and live~!
But if you’re not open you’re not going to hear His words the Father gave Him to speak: the command of eternal life.
One is only born again by a revelation from the Father, Jesus is speaking the Fathers words He gave Him to speak.
See Matthew 16:15-23 and John 10:16 Jesus builds His Church by a revelation of Jesus the Christ the giver of eternal life. Jesus told His disciples in Matt 16:20 tell no one that He was Jesus the Christ.
They still did not believe that Jesus would die.
What did Paul believe to be saved see 1 Tim 1:15-16 he had received a revelation that Jesus was the Christ the giver of eternal life Gal 1:11-12. This proves that Jesus promise is true…Most assuredly, I say to you he who believes in Me has eternal life.
It’s Jesus promise NOT our promise, and that makes it completely OBJECTIVE so the one who believes has CERTAINTY~!
Jesus cannot lie~!
@@AlvinFen
Amen bro !
@AlvinFen It's not my simple Gospel. It's God's.
Believe on the name of Jesus, and you WILL be saved.
I believe we both actually agree.
@@ronaldsimmons9517 We are IF your going to John 3:16-17 for the meaning of save. Which save there is parallel to eternal life. And condemn is parallel to perish. We’re saved when we believe Jesus promise of eternal life. It’s His promise not our promise so we have CERTAINTY. Faith in the Gospel of John is seeing Jesus as the Christ the giver of eternal life. That is why John can say in 1 John 5:1a Whoever believes in Jesus as the Christ is born of God.
And this is the promise He promised us-eternal life. 1 John 2:25
@AlvinFen John 3:17 uses the term, sōzō, meaning to heal or save from destruction, not to perish.
Believing in Jesus gets you eternal life and fulfilment.
Jesus also reiterates this in John 6. Paul states believers are sealed unto the day of redemption.
So, we agree. As you said, Jesus is not a liar.
In the 3rd clip it doesn't make sense as it stands alone. You took it out of context. Show the entire clip.
Why is it so difficult for Bob to exegies Matthew 7. Its amazing to me how people like Bob goes after Calvinist and can't see past camping on John 3:16.
*Can You Know That You're Born Again By Looking at Your Fruits? (Matthew 7:15-20)* - Bob Wilkin
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How can you know that you're born again? Can you know by looking for fruit in your life? "Fruit inspection" has been devastating to many people's assurance. Bob Wilkin of the Grace Evangelical Society discusses Matt 7:15-20, "Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves. You will know them by their fruits..." They show that Jesus is talking about identifying false prophets, not about having personal assurance of salvation.
*What is the Will of the Father? (Matthew 7:21)* - Bob Wilkin
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Not everyone will enter the kingdom. Some will be excluded. So how do you enter? Jesus said it depends on doing "the will of the Father." What is that? Does that mean doing works, or something else? Bob Wilkin of the Grace Evangelical Society discusses.
*Why will Jesus tell many Christians, "I never knew you; depart from Me"? - Matt **7:21**-23* - Bob Wilkin
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Bob Wilkin examines Matthew 7:21-23 and answers the question, "Why will Jesus tell many Christians, "I never knew you; depart from Me."? Bob Wilkin will also answer the question, "How you can avoid hearing this response from the Lord Jesus Christ?"
What can you say about Antinomianism?
*What Is Antinomianism?* - Bob Wilkin
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Bob discusses the idea of antinomianism-the idea that the grace Christians receive allows us to live our lives how we please. Does GES support this idea?
Thanks for the simplicity of gospel of Christ. I have a question, about another topic, there has been many interpretations of the nature of the thorn in Paul's flesh in 2 Corinthians 12:7. ¿What was the thorn that Paul had stuck in his body? May the peace of the Lord be with you!
This is the prime example of being double minded yet man loves to use that term to categorize believers who sin as if we all don’t sin.
Calvinists many of them think they're smarter than God as do many modern-day Bible scholars. If you died tonight, are you 100% sure you would go to heaven? God wants us to know for sure and his word tells us how we can know. Eternal life with God is a free gift. Jesus Christ paid it all for you. He took your punishment so you can go free. The gospel. Jesus Christ died for your sins, according to the scriptures, and that he was buried and rose again the third day according to the scriptures. Acknowledge your a sinner, ask Jesus Christ to forgive you, put your trust in his finished work on the cross / his shed blood that can cleanse your sin.. and ask him to forgive you and save you. For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.
The Gospel says nothing about ASKING for forgiveness. If you believe, you RECEIVE forgiveness of sins. Asking God for a gift He already offered is mute. It's in the RECEIVING by faith. If you believe, you receive.
@@graftme3168
What was Jesus's final command after the resurrection?
Luke 24:44-47
He said to them, “This is what I told you while I was still with you: Everything must be fulfilled that is written about me in the Law of Moses, the Prophets and the Psalms.”
Then he opened their minds so they could understand the Scriptures. 46He told them, “This is what is written: The Messiah will suffer and rise from the dead on the third day, And REPENTANCE FOR THE FORGIVENESS OF SINS will be preached in His name to ALL NATIONS Starting in Jerusalem.
Jesus never preached John 3:16.
@@2Chronicles714_How much of a "lifestyle change" ?
Where in Scripture does Jesus - or any inspired writer of Scripture - state ? :
"Whosoever that has a "LIFESTYLE CHANGE" has Everlasting life" ?
Objectively quantify that for us please .
We have no idea whatsoever what you're attempting to denote by your assertion .
I've never gotten a response from this question posed to those attempting to defend works righteousness (Obedience/Fruit/Repentance as a turn from an unknowable % of sin until death is NECESSARY to go to His Kingdom) :
How good are you ?
How good do you have to be to get to His endless Kingdom ?
Show us , from Exegesis of Scripture - the unambiguous , precise , objective , doubtless (%) level of behavioral performance (works) NECESSARY to earn/merit/be rewarded with/DESERVE the Free and Never Deserving Gift of endless Everlasting Life after death , per :
1. Second .
2. Minute .
3. Hour .
4. Day .
5. Week .
6 . Month .
7 . Year .
8 . Decade .
9 . Lifetime .
I'll wait for your precise , specific , objectively verifiable reply .
To meet the Burden of Proof to sustain your affirmation , make sure that you find this criteria in every Evangelistic/ Justification before God/Everlasting Life passage in Scripture , which would prove that it is indeed NECESSARY .
2nd clip is about 10 years after 1st one not 25 years later
Sproul is a cogent example of a very well educated person that makes no sense whatsoever to a little child .
He taught a perpetual Doubt of one's Everlasting destination based upon purely Subjective criteria .
The doubtless Guarantee of Endless Everlasting Life (John 1:12-13,3:1-18,4:10-14,5:24,6:28-47,11:23-27) is Objective .
Thus , certain .
Calvinism is the Worst of all possible News , properly understood .
You said according to John 3:16, by believing in JESUS a person is secured at the very moment, if so then he shouldn't be dying from any diseases, accidents or anything and continued in the kingdom of heaven?
Ridiculous assertion .
Everlasting Life isn't synonymous with Eternal existence .
@@soljos1190 Exactly~!
@@soljos1190 John 3:16 speaks of present tense, if you believe in JESUS then you must become immune from anything that's perishing you or destroying you because you have eternal life. This is what the scriptures say explicitly. If you become in line with scripture or not, that's the question.
If you're unable to be in line with a scripture then that's your fault. You must say the truth at least as Matthew 5:37 says.
Many preachers throughout the history preaches that whosoever believes in JESUS shouldn't perish after the end of the world or after return of JESUS because they will have eternal life, this is the popular explanation, but they're not in line with a scripture because this popular explanation speaks of future tense, so it's not in line with a scripture, so it's false.
Instead if you say everlasting life isn't synonymous with external existence, then that's utter nonsense because both have the same meaning. So, learn to fulfil Matthew 5:37.
There are SOME who shouldn't be perished or destroyed even by bullets because they have eternal life, and shall physically demonstrate and fulfil John 3:16, and vindicate it, and those SOME only the witnesses of JESUS as Revelation 11 speaks, do don't try to challenge them by your false explanation then you will be doomed.
@@williamgeorgepeter2969
Dude , your Lexical ignorance is only equal to your Exegetical absence of evidence .
Eternal EXISTENCE is a Fact for all humans who've ever EXISTED
Everlasting Life is the Life that God ALONE possesses intrinsically .
That Life is His Free and Never Deserving Gift given by way of imputation , to all who believe in the Christ (Jesus) FOR it :
John 1:12-13,3:1-18,4:1-39,5:24,6:28-47,10,11:23-27,20:31 ; 1 John 5:1,10-13 ; 1 Timothy 1:16 ; Acts 16:31 ; Galatians 2:16,3:26 ;
Totally apart from all behavioral performance (works) :
Ephesians 2:8-9 ; Romans 3:20-5:11,11:6,29 ; Titus 3:5 ; Philippians 3:9 ; Book of Galatians .
@@williamgeorgepeter2969
Is Having Everlasting Life Different from Living Forever?
January 5, 2022 by Bob Wilkin in Blog - John 3:16, John 6:51, Revelation 20:11-15
I recently heard a new song for John 3:16. The line about everlasting life jumped out at me. In place of “whoever believes in Him has everlasting life,” the lyrics were, “whoever believes in Him will live forever.” Did you notice the difference there?
First, the Lord spoke of the present possession of everlasting life: “whoever believes in Him…has everlasting life.” Whatever it is, the believer has it. There is a future tense in John 3:16. The Lord said that whoever believes in Him will not perish. That is, the believer will not be eternally condemned at the future Great White Throne Judgment because his name is already in the book of life (Rev 20:15). But everlasting life starts the minute one believes, not when one dies or is glorified.
Second, everlasting life is not the same as living forever, at least not in the way most people understand living forever. If by live forever we mean will exist forever, then unbelievers will live forever as Rev 20:11-15 makes clear. They will spend eternity being tormented in the lake of fire. Of course, it is true that this is called “the second death” (Rev 20:14; 21:8). And Paul does say that before God made them alive (Eph 2:5-8), the Ephesians had been “dead in [their] trespasses and sins.” They were alive physically. But Paul calls that being dead. And so does the Lord, as we shall see.
The word death means separation, not cessation of existence. That is clear in both Rev 20:14 and Rev 21:8, both of which say that the second death is being cast into the lake of fire. The first death is physical death. The second death is eternal separation from God’s life and God’s kingdom. The unbeliever will be resurrected (Rev 20:12-13) and then forever will be tormented in the lake of fire.
Everlasting life is the life of Jesus (John 11:25; 14:6; 1 John 1:2; 5:20). He is everlasting life. Those who believe in Him have everlasting life. We will never be that life. But we have it now and we will have it forever. Nothing can reverse the new birth.
The unbeliever does not have that life. And if he dies in unbelief, he will never have that life. In the Biblical sense, unbelievers will not live forever.i
However, I bet you’ve had someone tell you that everyone will live forever and hence everyone has everlasting life. The problem with that argument is that the Bible does not call eternal existence living forever, and it clearly indicates that unbelievers do not have everlasting life.
Third, changing the present possession of everlasting life into a future reality could leave the door open to the idea that the believer will have everlasting life if he perseveres in faith and good works until death. Those who already believe in eternal security would not take “will live forever” that way. But those who do not believe in eternal security would.
Now to the places where the Lord promised that believers will live forever. In John 6:51 the Lord Jesus said, “I am the living bread which came down from heaven. If anyone eats of this bread, he will live forever; and the bread that I shall give is My flesh, which I shall give for the life of the world” (emphasis added). John 6:58 says the same thing. Eating the Bread of Life is a figure of speech for believing in Him for everlasting life.ii
When the Bible speaks of humans who will live forever, it is speaking of those who have everlasting life right now and who will have that life forever. Living forever, Biblically speaking, is not existing forever.iii
(BTW, the expression He who lives forever refers to God in Rev 4:9, 10; 5:14; 10:6; 15:7.)
In addition, the context of John 6 is such that it sheds an important light on what Jesus meant by “will live forever.” Jesus had just fed the 5,000 with bread. They wanted that bread to continue always (John 6:34). Jesus went on to point out that their fathers had eaten bread from heaven, manna, in the wilderness and yet they “are dead” (John 6:58). But, Jesus said, if you eat the Bread of Life, then you will not die, but you will live forever. In this context, living forever is a guarantee of eternal security and it promises the present possession of everlasting life too. Compare John 6:35 and the words will never hunger and will never thirst. See also John 4:10-14. And John 11:26. The Lord not only promises that the believer has everlasting life, but also that he will never die (John 11:26), will never hunger and thirst (John 4:10-14; 6:35), will never perish (John 3:16), will not come into judgment (John 5:24), and will not be cast out (John 6:37).
John 3:16 is a magnificent verse. The Lord guarantees that whoever believes in Him will not perish (= be eternally condemned, John 3:17), but has everlasting life right now as a present possession. Believers will live forever in the sense that they have everlasting life and always will. Unbelievers will have conscious existence forever, but they will only live forever if they come to faith in Christ for everlasting life before they die.
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i Of course, the Bible does use the words live and life to refer to ongoing existence in this life, even of unbelievers. See, for example, life in Gen 1:30; 19:17; Exod 1:14; Lev 19:16; 2 Kings 8:5; Prov 1:19; 1 Cor 6:3-4; 1 Tim 4:8; 2:2. See also the verb live in Gen 11:11-26; Exod 1:16; 22:18; Ps 69:28; 89:48; John 4:50, 51, 53; 11:26a; 1 Cor 7:39. But it never refers to men in general living forever. In Scripture, only believers live forever since only believers have everlasting life.
ii See also the much-misunderstood statement by the Lord, “Do this [keep the Law, that is, love God and love your neighbor] and you will live” (Luke 10:28). That was Jesus’ answer to the question, “Teacher, what shall I do to inherit eternal life?” Of course, no one can keep the Law perfectly other than the Lord Himself. The Lord taught that only by believing in Him could someone be born again. But notice that He said that if someone did keep the Law, then he would live. The Lord taught that physically alive people needed to be made alive. That is, they needed His life!
iii Unbelievers will be raised (Rev 20:12-14) and will forever have bodies as well as consciousness and feelings. But that is not being alive forever in the Biblical sense.
From my limited understanding of what GES believes do you all not do a similar thing as Sproul and the Reformed in your splitting the Body of Christ into 'Disciples' and ordinary Christians?
I would highly recommend you prayerfully study the Gospel of John. It’s the only book in the Bible that has a purpose statement for unbelievers that they may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and that believing may have LIFE IN HIS NAME. (John 20:30-31)
All the other books are written to already born again believers.
The born again believers in John 2:23 Jesus would not commit Himself to. That tells us that following Jesus in discipleship is not automatic. Eternal life is REALLY a free gift that MUST be taken freely.
One must understand Jesus offer of eternal life in order to believe Him.
@@AlvinFen
John's gospel is written for already repented believers.
Stop deceiving people.
@@2Chronicles714_
Except that nowhere in the Text itself does it state that !
Here's a Clue for you :
Produce actual Objective evidence to sustain your assertion .
It remains axiomatic that the ABSENCE of evidence isn't EVIDENCE .
Repentance is not faith .
Only faith in Him FOR His Free and Never Deserving Gift of Endless Everlasting Life regenerates .
Or , it's a Performance Contract , which is impossible:
Ephesians 2:8-9 ; Romans 3:20-5:11,11:6,29 ; Titus 3:5 ; Philippians 3:9 ; book of Galatians .
All unbelievers in Him FOR His doubtless Guarantee of Endless Everlasting Life remain with Zero access to 1 John 1:6-9 .
The New Man/New Nature is the Free Gift itself (Everlasting Life imputed apart from all working) .
You Obviously deny the present possession of His Free and Never Deserving Gift (Everlasting Life) .
So , very obviously , one who believes that is yet unregenerate .
No fellowship forgiveness available to them looking to their Perseverance in Performance (works) as the Decisive Factor in their Everlasting destination .
Confession of sin isn't - once - a Condition of being born again with irreversible Everlasting Life in Scripture .
Nor is Repentance .
Nor Discipleship .
Nor a "Gift of faith" Irresistibly and Unconditionally Zapped into Hapless Meat Robots .
Ever .
So , you STILL don't make any sense .
Noone who hasn't believed in Him for what He actually Certifies , is born again with endless Everlasting Life .
Your works righteousness soteriology denies the Objective possession of His Free and Never Deserving Gift without - first - a Lifetime of hopefully good enough behavioral performance (works) .
Therefore , incoherence underscores your every comment .
@@soljos1190 Amen and amen~!!!
1 Corinthians 9:27
[27]But I keep under my body, and bring it into subjection: lest that by any means, when I have preached to others, I myself should be a castaway.
Like you said Paul was worried that he wouldn't persevere. But that he might be reprobated.
Are you saying that an individual who doesn't persevere in the faith and becomes a reprobates still is in Jesus Christ and therefore has eternal life?
Thanks for the video and the response 👍
He was not reprobated from running the race but disqualified from the reward (1 Cor 3:11-15).
@@AlvinFen He literally said that he feared becoming reprobated. Nothing here about loosing rewards.
I suggest doing a quick study on the word used here for "reprobate" and see if any of thoes individuals are even close to being saved 😉
@@seanvann1747 the better word for the context is disqualified because what is at stake is a CROWN.
@@AlvinFen You still haven't delt with the fact that Paul is fearfull of being reprobated.
As for the crown this belongs to the one who finishes the race, this crown is eternal life and it only belongs to the individual who is loving Him to the end.
12. Happy the man who doth endure temptation, because, becoming approved, he shall receive the crown of the life, which the Lord did promise to those LOVING HIM.
(James, 1)
Do you really believe that the unbelieving will inherit the kingdom of God?
Thanks for the conversation 👍
@@seanvann1747James is Israel's doctrine. Paul was teaching Body of Christ Church doctrine. When you combine the two doctrines instead of rightly dividing between the two, you can only be confused. Israel's doctrine is not a valid doctrine today because God is not doing Israel's prophecy program today. Today, during this Dispensation of Grace, He is building the Body of Christ Church.
Purpose of the Book of John
John 20:30-31
The disciples saw Jesus do many other miraculous signs in addition to the ones recorded in this book.
31But these are written SO THAT YOU MAY CONTINUE TO BELIEVE that Jesus is the Messiah, the Son of God, and that by believing in him you will have life by the power of his name.
You need to prayerfully read the Gospel of John which is written for you an unbeliever John 20:30-31 that you may have life in His name.
The moment one believes in Jesus for eternal life the HAVE eternal life and have passed out of death into life John 5:24.
25 At that time Jesus answered and said, “I thank You, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, that You have HIDDEN these things from the WISE and INTELLIGENT and HAVE REVEALED THEM TO BABES. 26 Even so, Father, for so it seemed good in Your sight. 27 All things have been delivered to Me by My Father, and no one knows the Son except the Father. Nor does anyone know the Father except the Son, and the one to whom the Son wills to reveal Him.
@AlvinFen
That's false.
Matthew is written for unbelievers and new believers.
Mark and Luke are for unbelievers.
John's gospel was written 60 years after Jesus's resurrection for already repented believers in the church of Ephesus.
Bob can't explain how people who died during that 60 years went to heaven ,until John's gospel that he claims is the only one for evangelism was written.
One of many scriptures in John that proves it is for believers is
John 16:1
All this I have told you so that you will not fall away.
Obviously He's not talking to unbelievers.
@@AlvinFen
Jesus Peter and Paul all said we must repent to have our sins forgiven.
Without repentance sins are not forgiven even IF you can quote every scripture in John.
John 3:16 is a promise for believers IF they continue in the faith until the end it is not how to be born again.
Jesus said you spiritual rebirth which can not happen without repentance which is the consequence of faith
@@2Chronicles714_
When you sin are you "Continuously believing" ?
Your take on the Greek tenses in John is Objectively indefensible .
It is Gnomic . Thus timeless . Ho Pisteuon absolutely destroys your premise .
Further , Aorist past tense usages in Acts 16:31 & Ephesians 2:8-9 destroy your assertion .
Reason you Eisegete a "Continuously believing" is in order to posit a behavioral performance component (works righteousness) , because your Object and Content of your "faith" is your Perseverance in the 5 Part Performance Contract till death , payable upon "successful" but NEVER Knowable nor Quantifiable levels of hopefully good enough behavioral performance (works) .
You don't believe in Him FOR His doubtless Guarantee of Endless Everlasting Life , apart from all works .
Every conceivable Lexical usage indicates its (Ho Pisteuon) timeless tense . You continue to trot out completely impossible grammar .
You're literally working for a Free and Never Deserving Gift , and thinking that you're finishing the work that the Christ somehow didn't in His PERFECT work of Redemption (1 John 2:2) .
There's no greater blasphemy available than self righteous attempts to steal all the Glory due to the Christ (Jesus) alone .
That's precisely what all who look to their Filthy Rags attempts to "come in some other way" are doing .
@@2Chronicles714_ @2Chronicles714_
When you sin are you "Continuously believing" ?
Your take on the Greek tenses in John is Objectively indefensible .
It is Gnomic . Thus timeless . Ho Pisteuon absolutely destroys your premise .
Further , Aorist past tense usages in Acts 16:31 & Ephesians 2:8-9 destroy your assertion .
Reason you Eisegete a "Continuously believing" is in order to posit a behavioral performance component (works righteousness) , because your Object and Content of your "faith" is your Perseverance in the 5 Part Performance Contract till death , payable upon "successful" but NEVER Knowable nor Quantifiable levels of hopefully good enough behavioral performance (works) .
You don't believe in Him FOR His doubtless Guarantee of Endless Everlasting Life , apart from all works .
Every conceivable Lexical usage indicates its (Ho Pisteuon) timeless tense . You continue to trot out completely impossible grammar .
You're literally working for a Free and Never Deserving Gift , and thinking that you're finishing the work that the Christ somehow didn't in His PERFECT work of Redemption (1 John 2:2) .
There's no greater blasphemy available than self righteous attempts to steal all the Glory due to the Christ (Jesus) alone .
That's precisely what all who look to their Filthy Rags attempts to "come in some other way" are doing .
Lovely music that you added. Unfortunately, it's so loud I could not pick Sproul's voice out from it. So I quit ... and am left wondering what he had to say on this topic. Consider it a win if you are striving to be a disc jockey.
I heard it just fine
@@ZandJ12345 Let us all rejoice that you did just fine. There are literally millions of people who have tinnitus, ringing in the ears. This makes it very difficult to understand the words you are trying to focus on when there is background noise such as other people talking or music. The vast majority of TH-cam videos that utilize background music keep the volume of the music sufficiently low that it is not a problem. This video is an exception. It's volume is too loud. But, again, I rejoice in your doing just fine.
@@johnritter5951that’s a good description of tinnitus…. I wonder if there is an AI way to filter out background music
@@johnritter5951 lol. some people will find fault in anything.
@@johnritter5951 I have it 24/7/365 days
With all due respect to Grace Evangelical Society, I think some of what you are doing is nitpicking and intentionally looking for fault. It’s quite easy to criticize someone who can’t speak back. There is a true faith and a false faith mentioned in the Bible. Read Matthew 7 and see what Jesus said to those who professed faith in him without obedience. The Bible tells us to examine ourselves to see if we are in the faith. I wouldn’t mind appearing on a video with you to discuss these matters.
*Can You Know That You're Born Again By Looking at Your Fruits? (Matthew 7:15-20)* - Bob Wilkin
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How can you know that you're born again? Can you know by looking for fruit in your life? "Fruit inspection" has been devastating to many people's assurance. Bob Wilkin of the Grace Evangelical Society discusses Matt 7:15-20, "Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves. You will know them by their fruits..." They show that Jesus is talking about identifying false prophets, not about having personal assurance of salvation.
*What is the Will of the Father? (Matthew 7:21)* - Bob Wilkin
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Not everyone will enter the kingdom. Some will be excluded. So how do you enter? Jesus said it depends on doing "the will of the Father." What is that? Does that mean doing works, or something else? Bob Wilkin of the Grace Evangelical Society discusses.
*Why will Jesus tell many Christians, "I never knew you; depart from Me"? - Matt **7:21**-23* - Bob Wilkin
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Bob Wilkin examines Matthew 7:21-23 and answers the question, "Why will Jesus tell many Christians, "I never knew you; depart from Me."? Bob Wilkin will also answer the question, "How you can avoid hearing this response from the Lord Jesus Christ?"
*Tests for Genuine Faith - 2 Corinthians 13:5* - Bob Wilkin & Mike Lii
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Bob Wilkin and Mike Lii of the Grace Evangelical Society examine 2 Corinthians 13:5.
Does 2 Corinthians 13:5 teach that we are to examine or test that we have genuine faith or does 2 Corinthians 13:5 teach that we are to examine ourselves whether we will be approved or disapproved at the Judgment Seat of Christ (eternal rewards)? How does someone know if they are saved?
@@GESvids By this shall all men know that you are my disciples - if you have love one for another. That’s fruit my dear friend. Fruit is also obedience. Most people miss this but please study Matthew 7, especially the last 2 verses where it ties into what has previously been stated. A wise man builds his house on the sand - that’s fruit. The parable of the sower illustrates it perfectly - only one is saved - those who bear fruit. I can sum it up like this: “Behavior follows belief.” Those who truly believe will act differently. There should be continued growth in the area of sanctification. Finally “If any man be in Christ he is a new creation. Old things are passed away. Behold all things have become new,”
*Can You Know That You're Born Again By Looking at Your Fruits? (Matthew 7:15-20)* - Bob Wilkin
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How can you know that you're born again? Can you know by looking for fruit in your life? "Fruit inspection" has been devastating to many people's assurance. Bob Wilkin of the Grace Evangelical Society discusses Matt 7:15-20, "Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves. You will know them by their fruits..." They show that Jesus is talking about identifying false prophets, not about having personal assurance of salvation.
Being a free gracer I don't give a rats arse what any Calvinist has to say. The're all a lost a fart in a thunder storm. In the 2nd clip RC used the term *being saved* implying that salvation is a process, which is totally wrong, as you Bob clearly pointed out @ the 10min mark
Better read your New Testament.
😀And develop some fruit of the Spirit
@@inpursuitoftruth4905
What is it you're affirming - specifically , precisely , without exception - one must Necessarily believe and Perform until death in order to be born again with irreversible Everlasting Life to enter His Kingdom ?
@@2Chronicles714_we know you haven’t read it
@@2Chronicles714_ Your no different then the ones in John 5:39-40.
I think there are a lot of people like me that want to see God's work in our lives as sufficient proof of assurance:
*Psalm 73:28* But it is good for me to draw near to God. I have put my trust in the Lord that *_I might declare all thy works._*
*1 John 2:27* And now little children, abide in Him, that when he shall appear, *_we may have confidence_* and not be ashamed before Him at His coming.
*Psalm 1:3* And he shall be like a tree planted by the rivers of water that bringeth forth his fruit in his season; his leaf also shall not wither and *_whatsoever he doeth shall prosper._*
Like Zane Hodges said if we are honest with ourself we will see more in our life to prove we’re not saved then that we are. And Zane was a very godly man.
Calvinism is for the wise.
Luke 10:20-22
Rejoice because your names are written in heaven.
Jesus REJOICED over what the FATHER did~!
25 At that time Jesus answered and said, “I thank You, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, that You have HIDDEN these things from the WISE and INTELLIGENT and HAVE REVEALED THEM TO BABES. 26 Even so, Father, for so it seemed good in Your sight. 27 All things have been delivered to Me by My Father, and no one knows the Son except the Father. Nor does anyone know the Father except the Son, and the one to whom the Son wills to reveal Him.
Calvinist can’t rejoice because they must persevere in good works till the end of their life to prove they are the elect, and then it’s too late. They are saying things on their death bed like…I hope I don’t hear depart from Me I never knew you.
Matthew 7:21-23 makes it very clear that simply believing in Jesus, even preaching and doing other works in His name while living in continuous unrepentant sin, you will hear I NEVER KNEW YOU DEPART FROM ME YE WORKERS OF INIQUITY.
He doesn't know those who are too self righteous to humble themselves and repent and never had a intimate relationship with Him.
@@2Chronicles714_
Do you sin ?
Why do you sin at all ?
When you sin do you Lose "Temporary/Conditional/Probationary" Life , or Eternal/Everlasting Life ?
Do you have "Continuous faith" while sinning ?
@@soljos1190Amen ..Shows the complete and utter impossibility of earning Grace or Meriting a Free Gift (Everlasting Life) .
So are the atheist "Ex-vangelicals" saved?
Shift your paradigm. God sees our need. He sees our lives from beginning to end. He isn’t willing that any perish. His salvation is freely given when we believe the gospel.
Anyone who has passed from death into life belongs to Him forever.
We are broken, sinful people. We stupidly continue to sin even after we believe.
He’s our only hope and righteousness.
If they believed, they are His whether they like it or not.
@@fancimcguffin2227 Yes. But if they have genuinely passed from death unto life, will they fall away from the faith and become ungodly blasphemers? Calvinists would say "no." An Arminian would say that they may have been genuinely saved at one point, but then lost their salvation because ultimately it comes down to man's free will. The problem you have, I think, is that you want ot combine free will with eternal security.
@@robertwheeler1158@robertwheeler1158
You sin .
So do I and every other mere human who's ever existed .
Looks like you think your Performance isn't as "bad" as others , and therefore you'll DESERVE to enter His Kingdom based upon your "Better than others" Performance (works) .
Looks like you're worshipping your Filthy Rags righteousness attempts to "come in some other way" not unlike the Judaizers/Scribes and Pharisees (Matthew 23) .
Contradictory to Ephesians 2:8-9 ; Romans 3:20-5:11,11:6,29 ;
"Genuinely" is Unknowable and Never Quantifiable , behaviorally (works) .
Purely subjective criteria .
On your Theological Determinism (Calvinism) you CAN NEVER have doubt free certitude that you're one of the arbitrarily Zapped ones (Elect) short of Perseverance Until death in a hopefully - but Never Knowable - level of Behavioral Performance (works) .
Calvinism is the Worst of all possible News , properly understood .
It Tops Out at Guesswork .
The antithesis of faith in Him FOR His doubtless Guarantee of irrevocable Everlasting Life (John 3:16 & Ephesians 2:8-9) .
@@robertwheeler1158
So , you're OK with Calvin and the Westminster Confession clearly affirming that the author of all Evil is "God"?
That's an indefensible Theodicy , if one values Exegesis .
I really don't care what Spurgeon , Calvin , MacArthur , Sproul , Washer , James White et al affirm exhaustively , other than to point out that they're clearly Unified in a Monergism that presupposes Monovolitionism .
Monovolitionism is the tacit admission of utter Determinism . Thus , humans are devoid of the capacity to do or think otherwise than wholly determined to do so , with Zero ability otherwise .
Therefore , the Abortion Doctor who delights in hacking little babes to pieces was just as Determined to do so , as the Pro Lifer outside the Abortion Mill holding a Protest against the murder of the Innocents .
Does that make sense in a Universe where the Laws of Logic are Operational ?
The question ought to answer itself .
On Determinism , humans have no Ontological existence , being completely devoid of a sentience not found in Automatons or Robots .
So , on a Determinist view , why would my Rejection of Calvinistic Theological Determinism be any Less caused/authored by this Singular Will than your Monergism?
Makes no sense .
Reduces to a Cosmic Puppet Show , in actual Fact . Turns humanity into Mear Mannequins .
*** Here's what I'm unambiguously affirming , in unmistakable terms :
1. Theological Determinism (Calvinism) is Monovolitionism .
Monovolitionism denotes that only One Will has Responsibility for "all things whatsoever that come to pass" (John Calvin) , including Raping , Torturing , and dismembering babies for Fun .
2. The Systematic (T.U.L.I.P) wholly rests upon a Secret (thus Unknowable) Decree that determines "all things whatsoever that come to pass" (John Calvin) , as "god " is the Author of Evil itself : including the Fall of Lucifer/Adam and every conceivable Evil until the end of History .
3. Total inability denotes that humans have no ability to do otherwise than Irresistibly and Unconditionally acted upon , Extrinsically .
Therefore , on Calvinism , regeneration Precedes faith , and only a "Gift of faith"/ repentance that perseveres till death" ( inevitably and inexorably) , only given to "some"... for No Known Reason Whatsoever ... eventuates in "eternal salvation" .
4. "P"erseverance of the saints clearly affirms that one must Necessarily Hit the Finish Line in a Never Knowable nor Quantifiable level (%) of hopefully good enough behavioral performance (works) /Faithfulness
Obedience/Fruit that will prove one's "Election" .
The insurmountable Rub remains however : one can Never have Doubtless Assurance of having irrevocable Everlasting Life as a present and endless possession UNTIL the end of one's life .
Therefore , all Subjective tests of one's Performance (Introspective Fruit Inspection) gives the "Best Guess" that one has been "Predestined" by this Singular Will that alone has meticulous Control over "all things whatsoever that come to pass" (Calvin") .
Tops Out at Doubt , rather than Objective certitude (faith/belief) .
Since Calvin taught Double Predestination , all those who Irresistibly , Unconditionally , Inevitably , and Inexorably end in the lake of fire , were also "Elected " to eternal condemnation, without the slightest shred of possibility otherwise .
They were ONLY and ALWAYS created to be damned forever , on Theological Determinism .
How one can have Doubtless Certitude that one was arbitrarily and fortuitously "Elected" via behavioral performance Metrics I simply cannot find articulated in the pages of Scripture .
*** Therefore , Theological Determinism (Calvinism) is the Worst of all possible News , properly understood .
I remain a Zero Point Calvinist .
I'm an Atheist with respect to the Theological Determinist caricature of the Only True God of love .
Unhappily , it makes many very thoughtful people recoil from the Absolutely Righteous , Holy , Loving , Merciful Lamb of God who takes away the sins of the world , that His Free and Never Deserving Gift of Endless Life can indeed be without Cost to all its recipients: John 4:10-14 .
The Biblical God (who cannot lie nor author Evil) loves the whole world so much "that He gave His only Begotten Son , that Whosoever that believes in Him shall not perish but has Everlasting Life" , as a Free and Never Deserving Gift .
Little children can easily understand and believe in Him for what He actually Certifies, instantly having irrevocable Life at that moment .
Because He cannot lie to the little ones , unfettered by years of self righteous hardening against Grace .
No better News , ever (John 3:16 & Ephesians 2:8-9) .
@@robertwheeler1158How much of a "lifestyle change" ?
Where in Scripture does Jesus - or any inspired writer of Scripture - state ? :
"Whosoever that has a "LIFESTYLE CHANGE" has Everlasting life" ?
Objectively quantify that for us please .
We have no idea whatsoever what you're attempting to denote by your assertion .
I've never gotten a response from this question posed to those attempting to defend works righteousness (Obedience/Fruit/Repentance as a turn from an unknowable % of sin until death is NECESSARY to go to His Kingdom) :
How good are you ?
How good do you have to be to get to His endless Kingdom ?
Show us , from Exegesis of Scripture - the unambiguous , precise , objective , doubtless (%) level of behavioral performance (works) NECESSARY to earn/merit/be rewarded with/DESERVE the Free and Never Deserving Gift of endless Everlasting Life after death , per :
1. Second .
2. Minute .
3. Hour .
4. Day .
5. Week .
6 . Month .
7 . Year .
8 . Decade .
9 . Lifetime .
I'll wait for your precise , specific , objectively verifiable reply .
To meet the Burden of Proof to sustain your affirmation , make sure that you find this criteria in every Evangelistic/ Justification before God/Everlasting Life passage in Scripture , which would prove that it is indeed NECESSARY .
The Prophet Muhammad, may God bless him and grant him peace, said :
* ( I swear ) By the One in Whose Hand is the life of Muhammad, no one from
this nation, whether Jew or Christian, hears of me, then dies without believing
in that with which I was sent, he will be one of the inmates of the Hell fire *
You're an antichrist .
Why do Christians differ in their religions?
Because , All the prophets and messengers, Abraham, Moses and Jesus,
peace be upon them, spoke Aramaic, not Hebrew. Aramaic is originally Arabic,
because Adam, peace be upon him, the first of the prophets, spoke Arabic, as did
the people who lived thousands of years after him, until the last of the prophets,
Noah, peace be upon him. The last of the prophets from the lineage of Ishmael,
the firstborn son of Abraham, from his wife Hagar, peace be upon them, spoke Arabic.
All the revelation that came down to the prophets was in the Arabic language, then the messengers translated it into the language of their people, and God sent a messenger
to every nation, and their number is approximately: The messengers are three hundred
and some, and the prophets are one hundred thousand and twenty-four thousand.
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Ishmael In the Abrahamic Covenant or not ?
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Jesus said to the Samaritan woman that…”You worship what you do not know, we know what we worship for salvation is of the Jews (John 4:22).
I would highly recommend you prayerfully study the Gospel of John. It’s the only book in the Bible that has a purpose statement for unbelievers that they may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and that believing you may have LIFE IN HIS NAME. (John 20:30-31)
All the other books are written to already born again believers.
The born again believers in John 2:23 Jesus would not commit Himself to. That tells us that following Jesus in discipleship is not automatic. Eternal life is REALLY a free gift that MUST be taken freely.
One must understand Jesus offer of eternal life in order to believe Him.
Jesus is the ONLY Lamb of God that took away the sin of the world, and made everyone savable (See John 1:29; 3:16-18).
Unfortunately, R.C. grew in Calvinistic theology. JMac at one time gave a clear non-Calvinistic gospel. He too succumbed to Calvinism & is all-in with Calvin & not Scripture. There are spiritual forces at work that will keep the unrepentant trapped in their sins, vices & false teachings, IMO
I think that the phrase "trust in Christ alone for JUSTIFICATION" speaks volumes. It indicates that he believed we needed justification and not eternal life.
In one sense you're absolutely correct .
In another , the Endless Status of Judicial Justification before God is undeniably a REAL thing :
Romans 3:20-5:11 .
Imputation of His PERFECT Righteousness is given on the basis of faith in Him , apart from all working (Romans 4:1-8) .
But to your point , Everlasting/Eternal Life is the Gift itself , and the Object and Content of one's faith whereby one is irreversibly born again.
Belief in the Christ (Jesus) For His Free gift has always and
Only been the means of forever Life .
Further , it's not at all clear what Sproul denotes by the use of the term "Trust" rather than believe/faith .
Repentance through faith results in justification to obtain everlasting life
Exactly~!
Abraham believed God for what~? Justification no~!
Abraham believed God for a seed/eternal life, that Seed was Christ and he rejoiced (Gen 15:1-6; John 8:56; 1 John 3:9; Gal 3:8,16-22).
The promise of eternal life, and that is why the Gospel of John never mentions justification one time, but eternal life and life 30 times. The words that will come back and condemn you on the last day is the command of eternal life the Father gave the Son (John 12:47-50). The crystal clear living water is John 6:47 and hasn’t changed 1 Tim 1:16.
First of all, the context of the sermon governs the meaning. I tend to think, R.C. had in mind people who based their justification before God not on the atonement of Jesus but on other things as tradition, keeping of the law or good deeds. Trust in Christ or trust in the declaration of God that you are considered (it's a legal declaration of God) right before him, not on your merits but on Christ's.
Sproul was a horrible, arrogant, man. When I think of him, I think of Gal 1:8-9. He literally taught the opposite of Pauls Gospel.
Wow that’s a strong statement. Check your heart brother.
@@raltar3855 No need. I simply checked his preaching and found it to be non Scriptural and divisive. Imagine teaching the doctrine of a cold blooded killer-Calvin. Its embarrassing to the Savior that anyone listened to him.
You should probably check to see if youre saved-believing a works based Gospel sends you down, not up.
@fredost1504
I suppose you think all you must do is utter I believe in Jesus at some point in your life repentance isnt required and your conduct is irrelevant and once saved always saved
@@2Chronicles714_
Repentance is not faith .
Only faith in Him FOR His Free and Never Deserving Gift of Endless Everlasting Life regenerates .
Or , it's a Performance Contract , which is impossible:
Ephesians 2:8-9 ; Romans 3:20-5:11,11:6,29 ; Titus 3:5 ; Philippians 3:9 ; book of Galatians .
All unbelievers in Him FOR His doubtless Guarantee of Endless Everlasting Life remain with Zero access to 1 John 1:6-9 .
The New Man/New Nature is the Free Gift itself (Everlasting Life imputed apart from all working) .
You Obviously deny the present possession of His Free and Never Deserving Gift (Everlasting Life) .
So , very obviously , one who believes that is yet unregenerate .
No fellowship forgiveness available to them looking to their Perseverance in Performance (works) as the Decisive Factor in their Everlasting destination .
Confession of sin isn't - once - a Condition of being born again with irreversible Everlasting Life in Scripture .
Nor is Repentance .
Nor Discipleship .
Nor a "Gift of faith" Irresistibly and Unconditionally Zapped into Hapless Meat Robots .
Ever .
So , you STILL don't make any sense .
Noone who hasn't believed in Him for what He actually Certifies , is born again with endless Everlasting Life .
Your works righteousness soteriology denies the Objective possession of His Free and Never Deserving Gift without - first - a Lifetime of hopefully good enough behavioral performance (works) .
Therefore , incoherence underscores your every comment .
When someone holds a doctorate in theology and still be so wrong about Salvation as laid out in scriptures, PhD cannon,y stand for: Piled high and Deep!!
Who are you talking about ?
Crossless gospel garbage 👎
The Calvinists believe Christ saved only the elect at the cross.
The Arminians believe Christ saved nobody at the cross.
I believe Christ saved everybody at the cross.
Check out the Concordant Publishing Concern and dump the traditions
I don't believe YOU .
Not one passage of Scripture states what you just indicated .
Your entire premise omits another proposition :
That only those who believe in Him FOR His doubtless Guarantee of irrevocable Everlasting Life are born again with His Life that cannot be lost .
His work of Redemption doesn't automatically give Life eternal to all people .
One must believe in Him FOR Life (John 20:31) to acquire endless Life/eternal Justification before God/imputation of His PERFECT Righteousness .
Faith in the Christ (Jesus) as the One who gives the living Water (John 4:1-39) removes any thirst for eternity .
That He took all the sins of the world away as the Lamb of God , is undeniable .
His full Propitiation is likewise clear (1 John 2:2) .
He did All the Work Himself that His Free and Never Deserving Gift of irrevocable Life can indeed be without Cost to all its recipients .
Noone is forever condemned because of one's sins .
The only cause is unbelief in Him (John 3:18 ; Revelation 20:15) .
Thus , they aren't found in the Book of Life : the reason for Everlasting condemnation .
Trusting and believing are not the same.
I believe Bob Wilkin is a real person but since I never had an intimate personal relationship with Bob I can't say I trust in Him.
This is what Jesus is speaking about in Matthew 7:21-23.
These people obviously believed in Jesus as unbelievers wouldn't do those works mentioned that He told us to do. However their belief was superficial,
they did not trust in Jesus making Him Lord and Savior, so He was not their Shepherd since they never had an intimate relationship with Him.
Only those who are a new creation in Christ (2 Corinthians 5:17) as a result of repentance are Jesus's sheep and follow him.
Jesus uses the word "knows" as in an intimate way just like that word is used throughout scripture.
They believed repentance is not a requirement, or it's works and conduct was irrelevant to being saved.
Jesus wouldn't refer to what He commanded us to do as iniquity or lawlessness
God didn't know them because they hadn't been regenerated
Jesus say ye worker of iniquity.
Iniquity is continuous unrepentant sin.
Psalms 36:12
There are the workers of iniquity fallen: they are cast down, and shall not be able to rise
Titus 1:16
They profess that they "know" God; but in works they deny him, being abominable, and disobedient, and unto every good works reprobate.
2 Timothy 2:19
Nevertheless, God’s solid foundation stands firm, sealed with this inscription
The Lord "knows" those who are his, and, “EVERYONE WHO CONFESSED THE NAME OF THE LORD MUST TURN AWAY FROM WICKEDNESS.”
Nahum 1:7
The LORD is good, a strong hold in the day of trouble; and he "knoweth" them that trust in him.
John 17:3
And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.
1 John 3:6
No one who lives in him keeps on sinning. No one who continues to sin has either seen him or known him.
You think you're behavioral performance (works) will DESERVE entrance into His Kingdom .
Eternally impossible to attain a Free and Never Deserving Gift that way .
5 year olds can easily understand that .
Utter nonsense!
I was referring to Chronicles 7:14
(I wonder why you don't read the rest of Solomon's speech)
@soljos1190
Are you a true repentant believer?
2 Corinthians 13:5 Examine yourselves, to see whether you are in the faith. Test yourselves. Or do you not realize this about yourselves, that Jesus Christ is in you?-unless indeed you fail to meet the test!"
If a work of God does not continue than its not a work of God.
If you fall short of the test repent and believe.
Cry out to God for mercy until a work is done
To test yourself to see if you're a real Christian read 1John.
1John 3:3-10 And everyone who thus hopes in him purifies himself as he is pure.
4Everyone who makes a practice of sinning also practices lawlessness; sin is lawlessness. 5You know that he appeared in order to take away sins, and in him there is no sin. 6No one who abides in him keeps on sinning; no one who keeps on sinning has either seen him or known him. 7Little children, let no one deceive you. Whoever practices righteousness is righteous, as he is righteous. 8Whoever makes a practice of sinning is of the devil, for the devil has been sinning from the beginning. The reason the Son of God appeared was to destroy the works of the devil. 9No one born of God makes a practice of sinning, for God’s seed abides in him; and he cannot keep on sinning, because he has been born of God. 10By this it is evident who are the children of God, and who are the children of the devil: whoever does not practice righteousness is not of God, nor is the one who does not love his brother.
1 John 1:5-7
This is the message we have heard from him and proclaim to you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all 6If we say we have fellowship with him while we walk in darkness, we lie and do not practice the truth. 7But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus his Son cleanses us from all sin.
What does it mean to walk in darkness? A style of life.If we say we are a Christian and our lifestyle contradicts everything God has told us about Himself and His will we are a liar.
If our lifestyle contradicts God's character then claiming to be a Christian is a lie. Not talking about unscriptual sinless perfection. Even a very mature Christian is susceptible to sin. Someone that has truly been born again will be sensitive to sin and they will be led to repentance and confession to that sin.
1 John 1:8-10
IF we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. 9 IF we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. 10 IF we say we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.
When was the last time you were broken over a sin because you knew it was against Gods will?
If you are sensitive to sin it will lead you to confession.
@@2Chronicles714_I guarantee that your lifestyle contradicts God's character way more than you know. So, that's a terrible argument. God requires absolute perfection. The only way to absolute perfection is to receive the gift of Christ's righteousness. Because yours is really far off.