Sidewalk doesn't even need to be fixed, just some paint, and will look like a simple step. The sinking concrete can disconnect pipes and electrical lines, now that can get really expensive to fix.
Excellent point indeed. My thought is that these sinking sidewalks are a ticking time bomb with respect to the ADA. How long will it be until the ADA covered file complaints that the situation is tantamount to access denial. I'm not faulting them for making such an assertion at all. I just wonder when it will happen and how it impacts the situation described in this post.
@@heyitsnasira the question is how long it's been going on and how far it will sink. If the sidewalks are sinking then it's only a matter of time before everything else starts slipping. The city should fix but in cali, that gov't passes the buck to the taxpayers to keep them tax dollars. I feel sorry for the people that live there but on the other hand, they did vote that into power.
“It’s up to the building owner to foot the bill to fix the sidewalks.” Ahh yeah ... but when it comes to write tickets .. its suddenly all property of the city ...
Yep. The local govt knew there may be a problem to build there ~ now it's the building owners problem (who didn't know what the local greedy dumbells did) ...
@@jonathanobrien3251 then the building owner should charge a use taxi the city? Or put a lean on city property since the city has not maintained the soil under the sidewalks and that is causing the soil to subside.
I use to work in a warehouse on chanel street in mission bay, and even small earthquakes like a 4.5 would shake the ground and warehouse very hard. I hope when the big one hits the Bay Area, it’s not when a Warriors game is playing at Chase Center
@@jdanon203 most of the west side of lower Manhattan is built on reclaimed land, especially the the Old Twin towers and now the Freedom tower. They do not have this problem.
Across The Golden Gate... they did it Right.... The Marin Headlands... Frisco Should Not Exsist... GREED X 1000000000000000000000.......... With No End in Site!!!!!!!!!!!!
Well I guess you heard wrong a lot of sidewalks in California are on private property with a public right of way easement.. Some cities in California will pay for side walk repair some don’t and make the property owner pay/fix.
Politician in SF knew about this problem before they allowed building in Mission Bay. They chose to ignore it as the property taxes generated from these properties would allow the City to expand it's wasteful spending.
@@QuakerPop bosses don’t work the workers do without bosses and owners there wouldn’t be a need to pay to live and workers would work to enjoy the full fruit of their labor
living in CA, I visit SF once a year with the family. Each time I visit im always worried that the overdue earthquake will erupt. Cant imagine living there 24/7 and paying 2+ million for a mediocre home
They went to Pelosi's for a fundraiser. $1,000 a plate! Just kidding, they all left once they realized the weight of Pelosi's ego was going to cause "settling" of the sidewalks. And the streets, coincidentally.
Video literally says that developers signed a contract with the city making them liable for the repairs. Also, many places in the US have similar ordinances. Its to offset the cost of road repair for the taxpayer and promotes stewardship of the community. Its great since my taxes shouldn't pay for the blunder of some corporation who won't pay up for their mistakes (knowingly building in an area prone to sinking)
Let’s not worry about fixing the sidewalks, let’s worry about why they’re sinking. That entire area is due for a massive land shift and these could be signs that it’s taking place.
They said that the reason it is sinking is because it is built on a landfill. In many cases the structures would sink along with the sidewalk and no one would notice much but the structures are grounded in bedrock. Not sure it’s got anything to do with California sinking in this case…
Not just any fault line but a very active and large one - It's not called the great San Andreas fault for nothing. I'm glad that someone such as you pointed out facts in this comment section. 👍!
These buildings are literately tipping over. And yes, much bigger problems to come. Considering the vacate, the reallocation, legal trials that follow. Holy moly.
How about installing the "rubberized" sidewalk that they used in Solvang? It was used there because it was lighter in weight and was not as thick as regular concrete. That allowed the the tourist town to save some historic trees, whose roots were raising up the previous pavement which went down much further into the soil. A lighter sidewalk might be able to "float" on the existing soil and not compact it.
It was built on landfill not solid dirt/ground it's going to sink no matter due to the landfill not being steady landfill items shift when they rust/decay nothing is going to stop it in another 50-100 years that part of SF probably won't be that part of SF anymore.
@@wanderlustandsparkle4395 But if the repairs exasperate the problem due to extra weight, as reported in this vid, then replacing with lighter materials should reduce the problem.
This situation in SF does not have a "fix" that building owners can address. There is underground water movement deep beneath the entire area which is creating voids which in turn causes the ground to sink. The buildings are less affected because they were built on pilings which were driven into bedrock which is stable. Sinking streets and sidewalks are merely symptoms of poor city planning.
When you build over wetlands and then build and pack the place, it only adds up more weight, leading to even faster sinking. This is a problem that will eventually have bad consequences.
San Francisco was so beautiful, I left my heart there . I returned only to find it dabbling in the flesh trade, strung out, broke, broken and homeless.
Lots of people have made good money there in real estate. Just like anything with ridiculous rises and valuations, don't put all your eggs in one basket and hope u get most assets out before the music stops
Is there anything that doesn't turn into a disaster in SF??? The management of this city is absolutely abysmal, lets not fix it because its gonna happen again or its too expensive???? Wow!
How could the city planners and engineers who allowed development in Mission Bay knowing that this settlement would occur? Another example of San Francisco going to hell!! The developers walk away with $$$$$$$ and leave the city to fix this mess.
@@sensualeye But exactly. The US is really not any better than any other third world country when it comes to corruption. Meet the right people, pay the right price, and you can do whatever you want.
Much of the area South of Market St. was wetlands reclaimed with rubble from the quake of 1906. By the '70's buildings built there were not standing straight as was my building at 5th & Howard. People were in such a rush to rebuild and technology did not exist to avoid the long term consequences.
A great metaphor for the city in general. They ran that poor city into the ground. Way to lose your tax base. Maybe try voting for some people who know how to run things.
Good point. And hOw is that non-profit housing tenant able to afford rent in one of the most expensive cities? Think of how little money funnels to the actual cause.
"It's a difficult process to fix things because when you fix them it just starts all over again." -Larry Karp Such words of wisdom. Best quote I've heard for awhile, lol.
Ok. The person that referenced “where the sidewalk ends “needs a raise. The buildings are fine? Yeah. Said in the most unconvincing way ever. Stop putting heavy buildings where they don’t need to be.
Just viewed this, and I caught that, too. He paused for a millisecond to “measure his assurance” realizing he was going on record giving an off-the-cuff endorsement of the foundational soundness of those buildings.
After the 1906 earthquake, destroyed buildings were carted off and dumped into the marsh in Mission Bay. Back in the’50s when Willie Brown was mayor, homes near the area started sinking. Brown had the City build up the sidewalks. Now you can walk along many streets, look down to where the sidewalks meet the houses and see where the first floors of these Victorians are so far below that you can see that residents must enter at the second floors. The City has ignored this problem for decades. When Brown returned as Mayor, he allowed developers to build on land everyone knew was sinking. Everyone, that is, except the techies willing to live in SF at any price. They helped ruin the City, so I have no sympathy.
I’d assume in a big earthquake, most of the streets and sidewalks in the area will crumble. That could make it impossible to use the UCSF medical facilities located in Mission Bay. That’s just peachy.
Here in Denmark a uniform block is used to create the sidewalks. So if you have a repair you take up the blocks, add some fill, put the same blocks down until you need to do it again.
I was thinking the same thing: boardwalks. It could be a tourist destination “Thing” called the Boardwalk District. It would add character to the sidewalk restaurants, but then you’d also make it impossible to be able to hose-away the human urine and feces 😬😵💫
Off the top of my head a simple solution would be to build sidewalk platforms attached to posts sunk deep in the ground. It takes the weight off the surface, allows the ground to move while sidewalks stay in place. If over the years the sidewalk level changes, you can easily adjust it accordingly.
@@PeterMaleitzke Hey I love San Francisco! Worked all my life in the financial district and frequent visits on time off. I live in Millbrae but I love the city so much.
@@Ac22768 historically communism is .. corrupt centralized totalitarianism. and as long as there exist human beings who emulate the great deciever.. a true idylic communal society will never exist. hence the establishment of the constitutional representative republic of the United States of America.. as close to a real democracy.. a real communal society .. as humans are capable of achieving... at this stage of human evolution.
@@dugundug1336 Communism means no private ownership. In the US, we have property rights, yes - even SF. The US is not a communist country. The owner of the building is just that; a private owner. The “owner” of the streets and sidewalks are the taxpayers, the public. Government is responsible for maintaining the streets and sidewalks - not the privately owned building. This is not an example of communism as you mentioned. Additionally, you have absolutely horrific grammar and punctuation.
@@rickmjr9569 One building out of thousands are sinking, that's an engineering problem. 2:30 the geoengineer says the buildings are okay its the sidewalks and the streets that are sinking. you need to do your research. When only one building is sinking out of thousands. clearly there is something wrong with the building and the engineering and not the landfill.
@@srzy ....well, I’m going to enjoy this...I actually worked for the city 🤦♂️ There’s a map that you can google and it shows which parts are built on landfill. Not only will find that map, there are several buildings in the financial district that have been showing signs of aging with cracks and other deficiencies. The city is constantly moving and each section of city is different, for example, large parts of the city were once large sand dunes and the sections that were excavated were pushed to the now famous Marina District. Listen here you basic human being, before you come here and try to embarrass someone, make sure they also didn’t survive the 1989 quake in City, because I did 😤, now go back to google and embarrass yourself and have a nice 🤬day 😏
If I could like this 100 times, I would! And I've never even been to California! Pelosi is a joke, for certain! $600 dollars a person is "significant" ? You are smokin' crack, lady!
@@58fins Trump not only rejected the initial higher rate, but quit negotiations, acting like a true 'President' when the public needed him. Trump (October ) - "I have instructed my representatives to stop negotiating until after the election when, immediately after I win, we will pass a major Stimulus Bill that focuses on hardworking Americans and Small Business,"
It is incredible to think that city planners and developers would build on landfill in San Francisco!!!! We all know of liquifaction , the earth is like jelly. As a native , I remember the 1989 loma prieta quake and how the marina district took a big hit because of liquifaction. What idiot would subject people to impending doom by building on what is essentially mud. The loss of life and property is going to be tremendous. Death and destruction will reign as I watch from afar and say I told you so. And since THE CITY KNEW OF THE DANGER OF BUILDING ON LAND FILL, THE LAWSUITS WILL BREAK THE CITY. HOORAY!!!!
I'm from Potrero Hill back in the day. Two earthquakes one in the 70s the Levi Strauss building at 2 Embarcadero was swaying I took the stairs and got out and in the 80s. I left years ago. The Ferry Building to Macy's is landfill. A fam friend born here in 1905 said before he died he used to FISH at a pier that is now the cable car turnabout!!!! What!? So only bedrock in the city is Twin Peaks Mt Sutton parts of Castro Potrero Hill and Hunters Point. That's it. The big one will be worse than japan March 11 2011. Oh , Lord!
Sinking just like that tall residential building in the city now a neighborhood sounds to me that the San Andreas is waking up and making the ground softer with those little quakes
Any engineer that says the buildings are fine needs to be fired. Those buildings are not monoliths, they don't stand there and are self-sufficient without power, sewer, and much more going throughout their foundations. If there are cracks around the base of the building where the sidewalks should be that's an extra entry where water could erode the ground around it. They don't want to fix it because that would take pulling everything up, restructuring the ground itself, and then rebuilding like back in 1906. After the earthquake and subsequent fire, the city should have never been rebuild on that unstable land.
Lived there when little. The landfill is falling in as the earthquake is about to happen. Solution: please sell and get out. This can't be fixed. The ground always tells u what's wrong. My friend lived here when I was little. He said when the sidewalks start sinking it's time to go. He was born in San Francisco and told me about this area and landfill done south of Market. Buildings will crumple when the ground is gone. Just go and don't look back. My city is a ticking time bomb. And u don't put a huge heavy building on landfill ground!
I was born and raised in The City in the 50’s. Just look at an old map of SF and it’s all landfill from Kearny street to the embarcadero. All modern buildings including Oracle ballpark, Chase Center are on landfill. Just remember what happened to the eastern span of the bay bridge and the cypress structure freeway in 1989. All built on landfill and mud flats. SF is a beautiful city, but I’m glad I left in 2001
@@bartonpercival2147 What a shame! I'm an older fellow but my grandfather and his brother owned several stores along Grant Ave in Chinatown! They were adventuous world traveled... taking trips to Harbien,China for business and were successful too! So I visited San Francisco and loved it,,, I returned a few years later and walked all around the city. (for some reason he owned the same stores but moved to different residences every year and I wanted to see where he lived and died for ancestry) The shame part was/is the "thick" urine& poop smell seemingly stuck to my shoes after my walk ...Sadly, I threw my shoes in the garbage when I returned home! SF must have been a wonderful place tho'!
While that's true gentrification didn't create that part of SF that was built on a landfill most cities built on landfills were built a very very long time ago so no matter who lives there this will happen due to the items used in the landfill begining to rust/decay.
@@wanderlustandsparkle4395 it was built on marshland. All of embarcadero, to 6 six blocks up Market, most of Soma and that part of Mission were built using literal landfill. Meaning humans filled the marshlands with dirt and now 173 years later they are building high rise apartments on that same land and not hitting bedrock. It’s comical!
There will be no solutions it will continue to get worse when you build on landfill stuff that rust/decays this will happen in 50-100 years this part of SF may no longer be a part of SF.
@@tommymiddlefinger1283 I see...you're texting from prior to the 1906 quake. Why don't you get on the Titanic and see if you can do something so the ship avoids the iceberg. Although, I'm sure you can't do anything that could change history, but then again, you already have here.
This is not new, all of the Marina district and Financial District are on landfill and they have been there forever. FD survived the big 1906 earthquake and so will Mission Bay
Doesn't matter stuff that was put there will continue to rust/decay causing even further damage the only smart thing to do is demolish the heavy buidlings and build only 3-4 story ones or move out completely.
Moral of story ~ don't build on land-fill. They also said there are water sources down 👇 below, are they drying up..? What kind of land-fill is down 👇 there..?
The sidewalks are only a symptom of a greater issue. What happens to the sewer, water and electrical lines?????
Sidewalk doesn't even need to be fixed, just some paint, and will look like a simple step. The sinking concrete can disconnect pipes and electrical lines, now that can get really expensive to fix.
Could become a rather 'shocking experience' as well . . . with pipe contents mixing with electrical current ! 😝
Could become a rather 'shocking experience' as well . . . with pipe contents mixing with electrical current ! 😝
Excellent point indeed. My thought is that these sinking sidewalks are a ticking time bomb with respect to the ADA. How long will it be until the ADA covered file complaints that the situation is tantamount to access denial. I'm not faulting them for making such an assertion at all. I just wonder when it will happen and how it impacts the situation described in this post.
The problem will be ignored even after the utilities start to fail.
There's nothing that Flex Seal can't fix.
That's funny!
It's not even THAT much damage. Definitely fixable
@@heyitsnasira the question is how long it's been going on and how far it will sink. If the sidewalks are sinking then it's only a matter of time before everything else starts slipping. The city should fix but in cali, that gov't passes the buck to the taxpayers to keep them tax dollars. I feel sorry for the people that live there but on the other hand, they did vote that into power.
Gorilla glue!
love it - lived it
This is unsettling..
*ba dum tssss*
And a little depressing as well.
Pun intended 😃
I’ve got a sinking feeling something is about to go down...
learn to swim
“It’s up to the building owner to foot the bill to fix the sidewalks.”
Ahh yeah ... but when it comes to write tickets .. its suddenly all property of the city ...
Yep. The local govt knew there may be a problem to build there ~ now it's the building owners problem (who didn't know what the local greedy dumbells did) ...
Typical liberal overreach and everyone hates it but keeps voting for it, classic cognitive dissonance
It is the city’s responsibility. The sidewalks belong to the city not the business.
* *Hell yes, BeetleJuice 10.0* * - !!!!!!! I HAVE YOUR BACK, BROTHER!
Not in commie SF
@@mason5540 true!
Depending on the circumstances did you read the paperwork these building owers signed
@@jonathanobrien3251 then the building owner should charge a use taxi the city? Or put a lean on city property since the city has not maintained the soil under the sidewalks and that is causing the soil to subside.
When this city has a huge earthquake Mission Bay is going to be a disaster.
it's going to be great they should have let it settle before building
I use to work in a warehouse on chanel street in mission bay, and even small earthquakes like a 4.5 would shake the ground and warehouse very hard. I hope when the big one hits the Bay Area, it’s not when a Warriors game is playing at Chase Center
@@bartonpercival2147 I hope your not at the chase center watching them that day lol
Fire too, the 1906 quake caused a lot of fires when the pipes and gas lines cracked. Crap is supposedly flammable too.
It was irresponsible to build it up the way they have. SOMA is dangerous too.
2:59 Dog is very concerned about the sinking sidewalk
Looking for a clean spot to take a shit.
"Either the sidewalks are sinking or the building's going up" LOL!
genius line from Capt. Obvious
SF is a shit hole
It is a thing that never should have been anything but a park.
Yep. Just like Battery Park City in Manhattan. And now look at it, though I don't know if it is sinking like this place in SF.
@@jdanon203 most of the west side of lower Manhattan is built on reclaimed land, especially the the Old Twin towers and now the Freedom tower.
They do not have this problem.
Across The Golden Gate... they did it Right.... The Marin Headlands... Frisco Should Not Exsist...
GREED X 1000000000000000000000.......... With No End in Site!!!!!!!!!!!!
If it was a park it would be a homeless encampment today full of used needles, drug addicts and mentally impaired.
The words 'Bay' and 'Creek' is a bit of a giveaway.
last time i heard, sidewalks are city property and the city’s problem.
I'm guessing this is the only township to make owners liable for sidewalks! nice how the city side stepped that financial problem lol
@@thisoldmtb3815 over $225 billion dollars from property tax alone! Can't even spare 1% to fix. What joy. Remind us why we pay for anything anymore
Well I guess you heard wrong a lot of sidewalks in California are on private property with a public right of way easement.. Some cities in California will pay for side walk repair some don’t and make the property owner pay/fix.
tear them out and plant grass
@@aaronp2542 Politicians need to get rich. That is why we pay taxes.
That’s the least of SF’s problems.
Common sense isn’t common for you I see.
Sinking from all of the weight of feces above
Do you live there?
LOLZzzzzzzzzzzz
This is funny but sad too lol
Politician in SF knew about this problem before they allowed building in Mission Bay. They chose to ignore it as the property taxes generated from these properties would allow the City to expand it's wasteful spending.
Its ok though because we are the Land of the free and we can just focus on the capitalistic aspect. WOO!! Its all about profiting baby!!
@TEST ON U ? bosses don’t make profit they steal it from workers
@@enriquehernandez2857 Let Mao fix it then.
@@mynameis9389 without bosses, workers would have no place to earn a paycheck. If becoming a boss was so easy, than everyone would do it.
@@QuakerPop bosses don’t work the workers do without bosses and owners there wouldn’t be a need to pay to live and workers would work to enjoy the full fruit of their labor
living in CA, I visit SF once a year with the family. Each time I visit im always worried that the overdue earthquake will erupt. Cant imagine living there 24/7 and paying 2+ million for a mediocre home
It’s the “aesthetic “ 🤣
Probably be best to have a evacuation bag with you at all times just in case it does happen.
What a dump
trashy city
@BubbaJones I'm voting red and on my way soon. We will keep TX RED 💪
Thats what happens when you bulid on landfill were are the "experts" and "engineers" when we need them ?
They've had experts and engineers. That's what you get when everyone gets a participation trophy in school and job qualifications go out the window.
They will be running for cover. Just don't take any of the two bridges. Both will be in the ocean at earthquake time
pretending to work and taking breaks whilst complaining over having to “work” that’s what “engineers” are doing
They died. How long you think its been up? 100 years? Way more than a 100. Things fall apart over time🤣
They went to Pelosi's for a fundraiser. $1,000 a plate! Just kidding, they all left once they realized the weight of Pelosi's ego was going to cause "settling" of the sidewalks. And the streets, coincidentally.
The city should pay to fix the sinking curb , because they collect the property tax
The property tax goes to the growing homeless population
Video literally says that developers signed a contract with the city making them liable for the repairs. Also, many places in the US have similar ordinances. Its to offset the cost of road repair for the taxpayer and promotes stewardship of the community. Its great since my taxes shouldn't pay for the blunder of some corporation who won't pay up for their mistakes (knowingly building in an area prone to sinking)
i remember sleeping infront of the mission bay library with my dog Casanova :D hello those who knew me! im doing ok lol :D in a tiny home
👍😊
SF bums checking in. Still doing drugs?
@@rongants6082 no more drugs, but still shitting on the sidewalks.
I hope you are improving your life !! Wishing you well
@@rongants6082 as in federally legal weed as a biotechnologist? Yep
Imagine vaulting over a 4 foot tall curb to get your latte in the morning in 2040.
😂😂😂
By the time it reaches 2 foot height gap, people will finally admit that this is a TIPPING building structure problem.
SF won't be there then... big earthquake any day now...hate that shithole and the people in it.
Lmfao
@@waynar3899 hehe I love vaulting
And you too can have the privilege of buying a 5 million dollar 3 bedroom apartment that’s sinking
😂
@@h.g.4222 the buildings are not. Only the sidewalks. Didn’t you watch the video?
@@californiamade5608 Tell that to the owners of condos in Millennium Tower.
And the neighborhood is built on landfill. How lovely....
WoooooooooooooW🌈
What a miracle, just like that they have a place to sweep all the poo on the sidewalk
Let’s not worry about fixing the sidewalks, let’s worry about why they’re sinking. That entire area is due for a massive land shift and these could be signs that it’s taking place.
It's build on fill soil that wasn't properly compacted when placed.
@@GilmerJohn, in some instances yes. Until it’s determined, that’s just theory.
They said that the reason it is sinking is because it is built on a landfill. In many cases the structures would sink along with the sidewalk and no one would notice much but the structures are grounded in bedrock. Not sure it’s got anything to do with California sinking in this case…
@@GilmerJohn It's built on a mudflood.. Or should I say, settled... Or not settled
@@letsgobrandon3007 its a fact, they new they were building on a landfill. how could you not.
JB WELD WILL FIX IT
LMAO right
The whole City 🌃 of SF is gonna be a huge CA land fill. With all the bums taking over.
Fentanyl is working on it
That's a symptom of the fault line. It's a ticking and meanwhile everyone is ignoring it. That place is inhabitable.
Best comment here!
Then how have people inhabited it for over 100 years?
Not just any fault line but a very active and large one - It's not called the great San Andreas fault for nothing. I'm glad that someone such as you pointed out facts in this comment section. 👍!
After the shit in Florida, I’m out of there. I don’t want buildings and sidewalks to crumble right under me.
The sinkholes weren't enough for you?
These buildings are literately tipping over. And yes, much bigger problems to come. Considering the vacate, the reallocation, legal trials that follow. Holy moly.
How about installing the "rubberized" sidewalk that they used in Solvang? It was used there because it was lighter in weight and was not as thick as regular concrete.
That allowed the the tourist town to save some historic trees, whose roots were raising up the previous pavement which went down much further into the soil.
A lighter sidewalk might be able to "float" on the existing soil and not compact it.
It was built on landfill not solid dirt/ground it's going to sink no matter due to the landfill not being steady landfill items shift when they rust/decay nothing is going to stop it in another 50-100 years that part of SF probably won't be that part of SF anymore.
@@wanderlustandsparkle4395 But if the repairs exasperate the problem due to extra weight, as reported in this vid, then replacing with lighter materials should reduce the problem.
"We knew that there was gonna be some settlement." - Then why didn't you PLAN for mitigating it?
Exactly!
All the urine and feces softening the soil under the concrete.
“ brown and yella under pavement is degrading
Stupid comment
Landfill below the pavement, open sewer above.
And leakage from syringes........
This situation in SF does not have a "fix" that building owners can address. There is underground water movement deep beneath the entire area which is creating voids which in turn causes the ground to sink. The buildings are less affected because they were built on pilings which were driven into bedrock which is stable. Sinking streets and sidewalks are merely symptoms of poor city planning.
When you build over wetlands and then build and pack the place, it only adds up more weight, leading to even faster sinking. This is a problem that will eventually have bad consequences.
No offense but did you know I love sinking
The city needs roads money to pay pensions for cops retiring after 5 years.
Its all public workers
It’s all being pulled down to hell.
GOOD!
Hope the city is paying for it
The should call The Department of Homeless Security.
.... hilarious 😁😄😊
San Francisco was so beautiful, I left my heart there . I returned only to find it dabbling in the flesh trade, strung out, broke, broken and homeless.
San Francisco has too much money. I'm the one who's broke.
"In SF, the cost, (with labor, material, and regulations) to repair would run about $1.4 billion, per linear foot of sidewalk"
So doesn't water easily gets under the building if it's edges are showing like that?
Yep
Exactly
Even worse if it isn't done right and traps water that's running down the building.
They said the buildings' foundations went down to bedrock which is why they aren't sinking too. The sidewalks & streets aren't fixed to bedrock
What happens when you build on top of scuttled ships and mud
True but those who actually did build it didn't realize what would happen so it's kind of too late now to stop it.
@@wanderlustandsparkle4395 They knew exactly what would happen. There is a reason that area wasn't developed for decades.
Your first problem, investing in San Homelessisco
Lots of people have made good money there in real estate. Just like anything with ridiculous rises and valuations, don't put all your eggs in one basket and hope u get most assets out before the music stops
No surprise most of SF built on filled in marshland, shifting sand. Used to be low rise city for a reason.
Is there anything that doesn't turn into a disaster in SF???
The management of this city is absolutely abysmal, lets not fix it because its gonna happen again or its too expensive???? Wow!
And now we have a San Francisco politician as the defacto president of the USA.
This is just capitalism in a nutshell
@@idmhead0160 ha! spoken like an ignoramus! capitalism would disallow building in this area. it's crony capitalism that allows it.
@@twystedhumour Crony capitalism is what we have and crony capitalism is capitalism
@@idmhead0160 Spoken like a true SF nutjob. I suppose you believe govt would do a better job? Too bad you can't hear yourself being an ignoramus.
How could the city planners and engineers who allowed development in Mission Bay knowing that this settlement would occur? Another example of San Francisco going to hell!!
The developers walk away with $$$$$$$ and leave the city to fix this mess.
This is the price you pay for unrestrained capitalism.
*not an endorsement of socialism or communism.
This isn’t just a San Francisco problem. It happens in dense cities like Singapore too.
@@sensualeye But exactly. The US is really not any better than any other third world country when it comes to corruption. Meet the right people, pay the right price, and you can do whatever you want.
Money
It’s amazing to me that they knowingly built on landfill. I didn’t know it was allowed.
Much of the area South of Market St. was wetlands reclaimed with rubble from the quake of 1906. By the '70's buildings built there were not standing straight as was my building at 5th & Howard. People were in such a rush to rebuild and technology did not exist to avoid the long term consequences.
A great metaphor for the city in general. They ran that poor city into the ground. Way to lose your tax base. Maybe try voting for some people who know how to run things.
Non profit with commercial tenets? Here’s the loop hole most people will never see
Good point. And hOw is that non-profit housing tenant able to afford rent in one of the most expensive cities? Think of how little money funnels to the actual cause.
Complete scam
Tax scam
This is the Democrat way
"It's a difficult process to fix things because when you fix them it just starts all over again." -Larry Karp
Such words of wisdom. Best quote I've heard for awhile, lol.
You can’t fix that. San Francisco should all be red tagged. Literally. How idiots want to live there and pay a fortune is beyond me.
Looks like they need to raise taxes. Raising taxes in California fixes everything.
Hey, how's the tattoo Removal going?
Ok. The person that referenced “where the sidewalk ends “needs a raise. The buildings are fine? Yeah. Said in the most unconvincing way ever. Stop putting heavy buildings where they don’t need to be.
Just viewed this, and I caught that, too. He paused for a millisecond to “measure his assurance” realizing he was going on record giving an off-the-cuff endorsement of the foundational soundness of those buildings.
Building had foundations, sidewalks not.
After the 1906 earthquake, destroyed buildings were carted off and dumped into the marsh in Mission Bay. Back in the’50s when Willie Brown was mayor, homes near the area started sinking. Brown had the City build up the sidewalks. Now you can walk along many streets, look down to where the sidewalks meet the houses and see where the first floors of these Victorians are so far below that you can see that residents must enter at the second floors. The City has ignored this problem for decades. When Brown returned as Mayor, he allowed developers to build on land everyone knew was sinking. Everyone, that is, except the techies willing to live in SF at any price. They helped ruin the City, so I have no sympathy.
I’d assume in a big earthquake, most of the streets and sidewalks in the area will crumble. That could make it impossible to use the UCSF medical facilities located in Mission Bay. That’s just peachy.
Here in Denmark a uniform block is used to create the sidewalks. So if you have a repair you take up the blocks, add some fill, put the same blocks down until you need to do it again.
My university class studied this phenomenon years ago. This landfilled area should never have been developed in an active seismic area.
Just a thought. Maybe it's time to go back to wooden sidewalks again. Cheaper and easy to repair. They can even be raised when needed.
They run too warm. The homeless would set up camp on them.
Cobble stones or bricks set in sand and stone dust
I was thinking the same thing: boardwalks. It could be a tourist destination “Thing” called the Boardwalk District. It would add character to the sidewalk restaurants, but then you’d also make it impossible to be able to hose-away the human urine and feces 😬😵💫
Off the top of my head a simple solution would be to build sidewalk platforms attached to posts sunk deep in the ground. It takes the weight off the surface, allows the ground to move while sidewalks stay in place. If over the years the sidewalk level changes, you can easily adjust it accordingly.
Sinking sidewalks, tent city’s, wild fires, I left before it all slides into the ocean!
News flash: The earth is always moving 🤯
@V Jacobs 1100mph bro
Let us not forget that the sea level is rising every year!!!
Well who would have thought, and San Francisco of all places.
A lot of San Francisco is built on sand and landfill.
It's not built on sand, it's built on trash... The entire mission bay neighborhood used to be a landfill.
Some of us in San Francisco live elevated, on bedrock.
@@PeterMaleitzke
Hey I love San Francisco!
Worked all my life in the financial district and frequent visits on time off.
I live in Millbrae but I love the city so much.
@@katrinkasanfranciscobayare7364 ur town is built on poo
I'm sure the buildings are totally fine though. No risk of what happened in Florida I'm sure. NOT!
Eventually sf will become deserted like detroit
Probably, but with nicer weather 🙂
Why does SF require the property owner of a private property to fix public property that the city is responsible for…?
communism
@@dugundug1336 I don’t think you understand what communism is.
@@Ac22768 historically communism is .. corrupt centralized totalitarianism. and as long as there exist human beings who emulate the great deciever.. a true idylic communal society will never exist. hence the establishment of the constitutional representative republic of the United States of America.. as close to a real democracy.. a real communal society .. as humans are capable of achieving... at this stage of human evolution.
@@dugundug1336 Communism means no private ownership. In the US, we have property rights, yes - even SF. The US is not a communist country.
The owner of the building is just that; a private owner. The “owner” of the streets and sidewalks are the taxpayers, the public. Government is responsible for maintaining the streets and sidewalks - not the privately owned building. This is not an example of communism as you mentioned.
Additionally, you have absolutely horrific grammar and punctuation.
The whole city sinking but my favorite taco spot is on 24th and mission street La Taqueria YESSSSS
"Mission Bay is built on landfill"
I hear San Francisco is becoming one big landfill.
All the homeless poop must be corrosive to concrete.
On the same thought process.. how about sinkholes and underground voids, imagine that cesspool.
Greed built it. Ingnorance bought it .
Taxpayers pay alot of taxes but yet the city feels no urgency to "fix" the issue?? 🤷🤷
Wow, the building that was built on landfill is sinking....shocker 😂
To be fair, the building isn't what's sinking... It's literally the entire city, not including the buildings. I guess that's debatably better, maybe?
did you not watch the video? its the sidewalk and streets that are sinking not the buildings
@@srzy ...clearly you didn’t do your homework...Anyways, TH-cam how and why the building is sinking...😒
@@rickmjr9569 One building out of thousands are sinking, that's an engineering problem. 2:30 the geoengineer says the buildings are okay its the sidewalks and the streets that are sinking. you need to do your research. When only one building is sinking out of thousands. clearly there is something wrong with the building and the engineering and not the landfill.
@@srzy ....well, I’m going to enjoy this...I actually worked for the city 🤦♂️ There’s a map that you can google and it shows which parts are built on landfill. Not only will find that map, there are several buildings in the financial district that have been showing signs of aging with cracks and other deficiencies. The city is constantly moving and each section of city is different, for example, large parts of the city were once large sand dunes and the sections that were excavated were pushed to the now famous Marina District. Listen here you basic human being, before you come here and try to embarrass someone, make sure they also didn’t survive the 1989 quake in City, because I did 😤, now go back to google and embarrass yourself and have a nice 🤬day 😏
maybe this will make them actually use the tax money for the people and not the governments pockets.
Telling adjacent private property owners to fix city public property. Why does anyone still live in CA?
The businesses will have to fix the adjacent roads next.
The weight of Nancy Pelosi's gigantic ego ...
If I could like this 100 times, I would! And I've never even been to California! Pelosi is a joke, for certain! $600 dollars a person is "significant" ? You are smokin' crack, lady!
@@58fins well, she wanted more than $600, guess who didn't ?
@@tomservo5007 It wasn't my man Trump!
@@58fins Trump not only rejected the initial higher rate, but quit negotiations, acting like a true 'President' when the public needed him.
Trump (October ) - "I have instructed my representatives to stop negotiating until after the election when, immediately after I win, we will pass a major Stimulus Bill that focuses on hardworking Americans and Small Business,"
@@tomservo5007 If we follow current developments, not old news, we know that Mr. Trump did indeed support $2,000 per eligible recipient.
I find this literal sinking quite ironic from a metaphorical standpoint.
My beloved San Francisco ❤ soil Engineering reports ought to be a must, in ancient swampy areas !
Just here to watch the drama unfold! Can’t wait to see the finger-pointing start When catastrophe happens.
It is incredible to think that city planners and developers would build on landfill in San Francisco!!!! We all know of liquifaction , the earth is like jelly. As a native , I remember the 1989 loma prieta quake and how the marina district took a big hit because of liquifaction. What idiot would subject people to impending doom by building on what is essentially mud. The loss of life and property is going to be tremendous. Death and destruction will reign as I watch from afar and say I told you so. And since THE CITY KNEW OF THE DANGER OF BUILDING ON LAND FILL, THE LAWSUITS WILL BREAK THE CITY. HOORAY!!!!
I'm from Potrero Hill back in the day. Two earthquakes one in the 70s the Levi Strauss building at 2 Embarcadero was swaying I took the stairs and got out and in the 80s. I left years ago. The Ferry Building to Macy's is landfill. A fam friend born here in 1905 said before he died he used to FISH at a pier that is now the cable car turnabout!!!! What!? So only bedrock in the city is Twin Peaks Mt Sutton parts of Castro Potrero Hill and Hunters Point. That's it. The big one will be worse than japan March 11 2011. Oh , Lord!
Sinking just like that tall residential building in the city now a neighborhood sounds to me that the San Andreas is waking up and making the ground softer with those little quakes
Wild fires, earthquakes, sinking streets, runaway housing costs, droughts, and a failing electrical grid. What’s not to like? Think I’ll stay.
CITY SHOULD PAY THATS BS! TAX TAX TAX BUT WONT FIX THE DAMN SIDEWALKS I HATE SF
Oh well, just wait for a huge earthquake to reset everything 🤷🏻♂️ problem solved
Any engineer that says the buildings are fine needs to be fired. Those buildings are not monoliths, they don't stand there and are self-sufficient without power, sewer, and much more going throughout their foundations. If there are cracks around the base of the building where the sidewalks should be that's an extra entry where water could erode the ground around it. They don't want to fix it because that would take pulling everything up, restructuring the ground itself, and then rebuilding like back in 1906. After the earthquake and subsequent fire, the city should have never been rebuild on that unstable land.
Lived there when little. The landfill is falling in as the earthquake is about to happen. Solution: please sell and get out. This can't be fixed. The ground always tells u what's wrong. My friend lived here when I was little. He said when the sidewalks start sinking it's time to go. He was born in San Francisco and told me about this area and landfill done south of Market. Buildings will crumple when the ground is gone. Just go and don't look back. My city is a ticking time bomb. And u don't put a huge heavy building on landfill ground!
I was born and raised in The City in the 50’s. Just look at an old map of SF and it’s all landfill from Kearny street to the embarcadero. All modern buildings including Oracle ballpark, Chase Center are on landfill. Just remember what happened to the eastern span of the bay bridge and the cypress structure freeway in 1989. All built on landfill and mud flats. SF is a beautiful city, but I’m glad I left in 2001
@@bartonpercival2147 What a shame! I'm an older fellow but my grandfather and his brother owned several stores along Grant Ave in Chinatown! They were adventuous world traveled... taking trips to Harbien,China for business and were successful too! So I visited San Francisco and loved it,,, I returned a few years later and walked all around the city. (for some reason he owned the same stores but moved to different residences every year and I wanted to see where he lived and died for ancestry) The shame part was/is the "thick" urine& poop smell seemingly stuck to my shoes after my walk ...Sadly, I threw my shoes in the garbage when I returned home! SF must have been a wonderful place tho'!
Why not just pump liquid poop into the ground
only a fool will build on sinking sand...... the San Francisco fix: cover the sidewalk with homeless.
When those cracks take on enough water. It'll become a city issue because...there will be a massive sinkhole form in time.
A trash heap built on a trash heap.
Hahahaha....gentrification karma!
While that's true gentrification didn't create that part of SF that was built on a landfill most cities built on landfills were built a very very long time ago so no matter who lives there this will happen due to the items used in the landfill begining to rust/decay.
@@wanderlustandsparkle4395 it was built on marshland. All of embarcadero, to 6 six blocks up Market, most of Soma and that part of Mission were built using literal landfill. Meaning humans filled the marshlands with dirt and now 173 years later they are building high rise apartments on that same land and not hitting bedrock. It’s comical!
Wait till the earthquake hits, you haven’t seen nothing yet.
SF needs a good "purge/cleansing"
@@duanescot sure does a earthquake cleanse.
One of the major delays/problem when building the Chinitown subway was coming upon an unknown underground river!
I like the way the city official lady said we knew this would happen. So let's do it anyway and make the storefront owners pay to fix it. How stupid 🤨
"the buildings are fine" famous last words for florida residents
The reporter never asked the engineer what are the proposed solutions (if any). How frustrating.
There will be no solutions it will continue to get worse when you build on landfill stuff that rust/decays this will happen in 50-100 years this part of SF may no longer be a part of SF.
Maybe the entire City will just slip into the ocean.
I gave you a thumbs up and my brother lives in the area.
I do like my brother, but you choose where you live .
What a disgusting place with absolutely empty people running it, used to be such a nice place.
This is telling you the great 1906 earthquake is about to happen. As a time traveller I'm not surprised.
Its time take care my freind good luck
Well then travel into the future and then back here and give us the exact time and day of the quake.
@@offplanetevent April 18, 1906, 5:12 a.m.
@@tommymiddlefinger1283 I see...you're texting from prior to the 1906 quake. Why don't you get on the Titanic and see if you can do something so the ship avoids the iceberg. Although, I'm sure you can't do anything that could change history, but then again, you already have here.
@@offplanetevent I've never revealed events before they've happened. That's against the Temporal Prime Directive.
This is not new, all of the Marina district and Financial District are on landfill and they have been there forever. FD survived the big 1906 earthquake and so will Mission Bay
Yeah okay 🤣🤣🤣
The real problem are the gas lines underneath. They are likely shifting as well.
jeb -move away from there
Drill hole, Inject light weight foam, until level
Doesn't matter stuff that was put there will continue to rust/decay causing even further damage the only smart thing to do is demolish the heavy buidlings and build only 3-4 story ones or move out completely.
People just gotta leave San Francisco... I mean one earthquake will settle the city
Not just san f but bay area in general. i domt see the hype of living in san francisco that other people see
Moral of story ~ don't build on land-fill.
They also said there are water sources down 👇 below, are they drying up..?
What kind of land-fill is down 👇 there..?
Remind me again why San Francisco is such an expensive place to live? People in that city are such suckers.