@@officialmiraculoussins I think the reason you aren't supposed to kill the akuma is because it can unbalance the person from which the negative emotion came from, rendering them unable to feel that negative emotion. Negative emotions in themselves aren't bad, it is the imbalance that causes improper behaviors that is bad. At least that's my theory. Also the butterfly is innocent victim of being imbued with evil power , killing butterflies because you think they are evil sets a wrong message to younger viewers... maybe?
Ivan was really the first ever character to question the fact that ladybug knows his name , and I agree with Su Han more and more , Fu really is an idiot
For sin number 5, it is actually called the butterfly miraculous, which is why he uses butterflies. As for why he calls himself Hawkmoth, I think it because moths are “bad” while butterflies are “good”. It’s dumb, but that’s what the writers said.
@@thesilliestdoodlerhawkmoth is called “papilion” in the french dub which is french for butterfly. The french dub is pretty much the original dub since the show is french. Nooroo calling the miraculous the moth brooch is prob a dubbing error or the writers changed things so that “hawkmoth” makes sense
In the french dub he’s called “papillon” (french for butterfly). Why didn’t they just keep his name in the english dub and called it a day instead of making a mess
@@ree57brzi French guy here and I just want to add that in french "Moth" are called "Butterfly of the night" in french (Also yes he does have the miraculous of Butterfly in the french version)
My head canon now is that fu didn’t choose miranette and adrien because they’d be good superheroes he chose them because of the massive amount of Mari sue plot powers.
@@officialmiraculoussins imagine if it was the kwamis that chose their holders Edit: this what happens in the miraculous movie (no not miraculous world special)
My head canon is that the way Miraculous' work is that they respond to emotions. The stronger the emotion, the more heightened the response. The reason so many of the wearers are teenagers is because teenagers tend to have stronger emotions, so the miraculous' are naturally drawn towards them. Teens/People with stronger emotions (such as someone "grieving" over his dead wife) can help the miraculous' achieve their maximum strength.
Rewriting it from the first vid- my theory for the whole “needing negative feelings” bit for Hawk math. He doesn’t NEED it, but for him, it’s just easier to manipulate his victims into doing his own bidding! Because then he can “give” them a way to feel better and take revenge on those who wronged them, and “only” have to give the cat and ladybug miraculous as payment. So in an emotionally clouded mind- it would be a win-win! Sorry if it doesn’t make sense, I tried.
i like to imagine that the power of the butterfly latches on to the part of you that wants to Do Something, and empowers that part of you to take over any reservations the rest of you might have, while also giving you the ability to get that Something done. that means that targeting someone who wants to hurt someone tends to give them powers that are pretty good in a fight. despair is a lot easier to warp into anger than happiness is.
It does make sense at that point. But I would like to point out that in some episodes (Sandboy, Backwarder, Jubilation...) we learn that Butterfly miraculous holder can sense negative emotions of people. And if only Gabriel needed the negative emotions to manipulate people, then how come butterfly miraculous just has this ability(if it's not intended to be used for evil). It's not consisnet to its power. One and only explanation I can think for this, is that Gabriel unknowingly or knowingly pushed the limits of the miraculous power and now the miraculous can just do this for him. Like when Ladybug learnt that she could create magical charms, the same case with Gabriel and this incosistence.
@@tsabutashvili_andria that is fair… but this IS also miraculous we’re talking about- it’s not fully consistent with its stuff… but it would make sense that Gabriel pushed the miraculous so it does that- idk, there will never be an explanation, I’m not sure if the creators have an explanation cause why would people make an EVIL miraculous?
I feel like bringinv this up as it hasn't been in the video: how in the world did master fu put the miraculeses in their rooms?! Did he just break into their rooms while they were at school/trying to go to school?! If yes then how did he know where 2 teenagers he JUST MET lived?!
@@Pebbleveryepicfr Tikki and Plagg have been seen multiple times flying with the miraculouses (in Reflekta 2.0 for example) so they could’ve just been flying there. Also Adrien Agreste is really famous model on a lot of posters nd stuffy 😭so it’s easy to guess it plus Marinette came out of the Bakery and Fu could’ve just asked about who the girl who just came out was or even just seen a picture in there it’s really not clear but yeah I get your point
Mmhm yes these kids helped me cross the road lemme just entrust them with two of the most powerful artefacts and lay the fate of the world on their shoulders
Yes, in fact we didn’t see Nooroo tell Gabriel the way to transform at ALL. Didn’t tell him that there’s other miraculous to try to take as well. Fu just tried to manipulate someone into thinking he wasn’t going to make it to the sidewalk, and of course it had to be Marinette. Just like the power rangers, “let’s have some teenagers have every Parisian on their shoulders. Yes, yes.” They aren’t even adults yet and they have the whole city of Paris on their shoulders, give them time and choose people that are actual adults.
well, in the original, all miraculous have the same transformation phrase "(insert kwami) transforme moi" (no idea if i spelled that correctly). And they used the peacock miraculous before, so it would make no sense for him not to know. the kwamis likely told the couple, when they found the miraculouls as they were not evil at that point.
🤓☝️ "AuCtuAlLY" Marinette has four powers which is really interesting because the black cat miraculous really only has one; the miraculous that is supposed to be on par with the ladybug for being powerful only has one application truly yin and yang😂
@@masakarar night vision is not even useful since they're barely in a dark room and despite having superhero and he gets caught off guard a lot and it's annoying
Two things about these episodes: Chloe is held hostage so why does alya think Chloe is ladybug. In addition the butterfly miraculous can be a support hero and power up other heroes as seen in the Paris special.
17:05 🚨 *This comment has spoilers* 🚨 Betterfly from Shadybug & Claw Noir used his powers for good, and managed to use his kamikos (which would be hawkmoths akumas) to give catnoir flight abilities to help them get away. So I think the reason why is because he has to have negative emotions/people who want revenge to create supervillains, because there'd be no point in giving powers to someone that gives them the ability to do something they don't want to do, they'd reject it. In Zombizou, Mrs Bustier didn't want to harm anyone, but she was thinking negatively. So Hawkmoth could manipulate her and got her to do what he wanted. In Kuro Neko Plagg said that you costume also changes to fit your personality. I was also thinking that when Marinette used her Kwagatama to talk to Scarlet Fate, she had a sword instead of a yo-yo. So maybe the miraculous also adapts for what the holder needs to do. Edit: I don't remember which episode but I think I remember an episode saying that their objects also change overtime. Because it wouldn't make any sense to give the superheroes yo-yos with phones built into them 600 years ago, lol. I realised that only the cat, fox and ladybug miraculous have technology/phones built into them.
9:32 this EXACTLY throughout the entire show they spend so much time protecting themselves and helplessly watching random people be trapped, picked up, thrown, crushed, etc as if they dont have MAGICAL POWERS
Honestly, Hawkmoth turning teens into villain kinda makes sense? Teens usually are more emotional and get petty over things so I guess that’s why he targets them more?
I'd question how why ANYONE would believe Chloe might be Ladybug post Origins (chronologically) considering Ladybug saving Chloe in front of EVERYONE IN PARIS, but we all know it's because the writers don't watch the series
No that's not right , although butterflies and moths come from the same insect group (Lepidoptera) Butterflies are in fact an evolved type of moth , so they are a sort of specialized group that stems from moths, butterflies are a type of moth not the opposite , and hawk moth ( or the sphingidae) is a family of moth , and as we established butterflies stems from moths so we can say they are moths but the opposite would be wrong , so hawk moths are definitely not butterflies idk where you got that information
1:10 its actually the BUTTERFLY miraculous his name is only hawkMOTH because i guess moths are sort of the butterflies evil cousin. But overall it is the butterfly miracualous so it should definetly rely on butterflies, i actually don’t know why they say Moth Brooch in this episodes but in episodes to follow (chronologically) it is referred to as the miraculous of the butterfly 6:48 the peacock miraculous also doesn’t have a catchphrase im pretty sure 17:01 the butterfly miraculous is supposed to be used for good. The emotions the person being akumatized feel determine hero or villany. So hawk moth is looking for negative emotions to enhance the angry to create a villain. If it were to be used in the opposite sense, for good, the holder would look for positive emotions, or a well-intentioned person, to enhance the benevolency and create a hero.
Fu said "I can no longer do it alone." But what exactly was he doing? He's been on the run and in hiding all these years sure, but as far as we know, no one else was after him/knew where to even find him and Hawke Moth made his debut this episode so there were no super villians at this point either.
Too bad my entire page of notes was deleted lol. Well, the only important thing is that I hope you’re proud of how far this channel has come. I actually discovered it by mistake while searching up stuff about the Pharaoh. It’s really grown since then, and your hard work is definitely paying off. I hope you have an amazing day :)
Moths: no metabolism, life span of a week at most, nocturnal, cute big eyes, big antenne, more willing to be picked up, cacoon. Butterflies: thinner antennas, lifespan of about 6 months, chrysalis, more skittish, mouth straw, thinner body You get the point
They are both part of the insect order known as Lepidoptera, with moths being the name for all members that are not butterflies. The french word papillon can mean both. entering papillon in google translate, comes out as butterfly, while typing papillon de nuit turns it into a moth. Personally, i like the change, moths feel like the butterflies evil corrupted cousins.
Thank you very much for doing these videos, you're helping me recover some braincells that I lost watching the show. You're showing us that people with no budget or television aprovement are smarter than people that have. If there's going to be a live action movie adaptation of this show, then you might be one of the best options to save it at least
1:14 he couldve decoded part of the grimoire and figured out the catchphrase, or maybe hes attempted to use the miraculous before when he first discovered it..? 3:41 maybe they revamped the school or moved classes around do thats why sabrina said : “new school" • adrien and marinette were given the miraculous because fu saw ladybug and chat noir in the past (in evolution s5 e1) and hes studied the miraculous so he knows that usually nothing changes when someone wears the ladybug miraculous and the person hair shape and eyes change when they wear the black cat miraculous ( but that's just a theory, A FILM THEORY ) 6:45 i think the peacock and butterfly miraculous not having catchphrases could be because theyre more emotion based 10:46 and as if not anybody can wear the miraculous regardless of their intentions 12:42 plagg mustve pressed the mute + unmute buttons 13:22 not to mention chat nour cataclysms an akuma in chat blanc and traps it in season 5 13:45 london special foreshadowing 13:54 maybe when hawk moth turns the butterfly into an akuma it changes it's physical properties..? (man, this show is really becoming difficult for me to defend) 15:10 i guess the writers just hadn't came up with a motivation for him at that point in time. + 5 sins for bad writing 15:18 which one the wish or the fact that he couldve just waited for ladybug and chat noir to go home than went in the burrow and find out their identities or go back to the past to save his wife via the flashdrive all in all he makes 3+ catastrophically Braindead decisions in szn 5 17:03 tikki must've told her behind the scenes 18:19 maybe gabriel enrolled adrien but then changed his mind???? 21:41 +2 sins for foreshadowing and speaking directly to the camera 22:46 seeing as the other helicopters shake the one recording shouldve also 23:42 hawkmoth has schezophrenia and thinks hes being recorded constantly confirmed???
For 105: I heard that Catnoir was actually the name of a fictional hero from stories in their world and his mother use to tell him said stories. I can't remember exactly where I learned that, but it's just a fun fact.
Hello Fair! About your question with why Nooroo needs Butterflies to function, even though he is categorized as a moth, is (what I think it is, but I may be entirely wrong) because of French subtitles! Moths in French is Papillon de Nuit, which traducts straight up to night butterflies!
Oh my God I'm so glad someone finally said it and I'm going to put that in my FanFiction to complain about it. Why do we never bring up the fact that they can feel each other's aura considering how little Gabriel actually knows about his powers
2:02 If wayzz knows what a negative aura feels like, that means nooroo (i think thats its name) has been used by other holders for the purpose of evil I may be wrong on this, but. Who knows?
Ladybug is the only one who can purify the akuma. It would've been cool if the did the same with Cat Noir, since they have the two most powerful of the miraculous. They could've done like a cool pair thing with their powers. Only issue is that would be putting more light onto Adrien/Cat Noir and GOOD HEAVENS WE CAN'T HAVE THAT......according to Thomas Astruc of course.
Quick note, I did some research and apparently akuma means devil or evil spirt in Japanese so maybe that’s what they were going for, even then I call that a stretch cus I pretty sure this miracle box is meant to be Chinese
I thought the butterfly miraculous used negative emotions so people in distress could have powers that would help them out of the situation. It would make sense for a superhero to give powers to a person in trouble that was not liking to help.
8:40 wait what if Lila was the one that helped master fu would he just be like “yep she’s seems trustworthy after helping me cross a road” or would he sense her “negative aura”
i've heard in french (original language of the show) there's no special transformation phrase so they all say just transform and detransform (not sure if this is true tho) that would explain alot of moments in the show ig
6:16 a few miraculous actually have multiple powers, the ladybug has creation and purification and the butterfly has akuma and empathy, the black cat has destruction and heighten senses (night vision and super hearing) and the peafowl also has empathy along with sentimonsters, while we haven't seen it we can assume the other feline have the same secondary power as the black cat or only the ladybug, black cat, butterfly, and peafowl are the only ones with secondary powers, if that's the case It could be possible the bee, fox, and turtle also have secondary powers since they're ranked at the same level as the butterfly and peafowl.
6:49 I mean. In that one time traveller episode where Chris (Nino’s little brother) comes into the current Ladybug and Catnoirs time period. That one girl on roller-skates adult self (who wields the miraculous of bunny) says that they have unlimited time in their superhero form when they’re adults. So with this info I could make a reasonable assumption that they also have the Freedom (when they’re adults) for other abilities that were partially restricted when they were minors like having to use a specific catchphrase to activate their powers. But I haven’t watched the show in like 6 months so I might be wrong with this assumption 😅
Lowkey, it never made sense to me how Fu lost the butterfly miraculous. Like the peacock? Now that one makes sense since he was using it. But what are the ODDS that he also only lost ONE single other miraculous, and what are the other odds that it just so happened to the be exact perfect one for Gabriel to end up using in the future. Like ig fate but damn 😭
it kinda makes sense that hawk moth's ability functions through negative emotions, since those emotions occure because of another negativity which harmed them/treated them badly. in theroy the moth miraculous could be used as a response to an evil act, and hawky does kinda use it that way.
cat noir is the name of a character of a book his mom used to read for him , the holders were just called holder of the black cat Miraculous. but it's just lazy writing since chat noir means black cat.
@@officialmiraculoussins The new London special uses the fact that she put the earings in her drawer, so she has a place to borrow them from without disrupting the timeline
She could let people die and get the Akuma, then use Miraculous Ladybugs. Are there limitations to Miraculous Ladybugs? What are the rules? Making a Gory death would answer my question and set the rules.
I said it once and I'll say it again: I kinda always had a theory about the butterfly Miraculous. Granted, I'm only just rejoining the fandom and haven't watched the new season yet, but the idea is that the original purpose was to find people who had been harmed by an injustice, and turn them into temporary heroes to find the bad guys and take them out. That would explain the powers. However, Hawkmoth instead uses the butterfly Miraculous to find negative emotions and help them get revenge instead of justice.
Also, if I was in Fu's place, I would prob give them the Pig Miraculous(I feel like the positive powers could help fight the negative emotions in the Akuma?? We already know it's possible to reject/fight an Akuma) and the ox Miraculous or something since, well, the Pig isn't exactly meant for combat. Or maybe wasp since its just immobilization!! Watch over the heroes, if they do well, swap their Miraculous for something stronger. Steadily lead up to the cat and ladybug!!
At the end of each season could you do a season round up with the amount of sins from the entire season, your fave episodes, the worst written episodes, all of the plot holes opened etc
when they are given the miraculous, Marinette and Adrien (correct me if I'm wrong) are THIRTEEN. like that is JUST barely a teenager and you want them to save a city, defeat villains andhave what feels like a hundred life or death situations and/or near to death experiences. i totally agree with Master Fu is the real villain here 😭😭
5:30 there’s a saying that you shouldn’t try and communicate on the 13th floor, so while it’s unfair of her to not hear him out it also makes a little bit of sense bc everyone needs to calm down first
17:08 I always figured the butterfly miraculous' main function was to solve problems. It detects negative emotions which helps scout out people that might be in the need of aid, and the akumas allow the holder to help from a safe distance if the area is hard to reach. Like a good butterfly holder might akumatize someone stuck in a burning building so they can escape, or akumatize someone that just suffered from a car accident to be able to heal themselves and their loved ones. I do think the butterfly's aesthetics being so obviously evil doesn't help it's case, since its so weird how dark and evil looking it is, but saying the power is tailor made for evil seems a bit cherrypicky imho. Great video overall though, i just couldn't help but point this one out.
It’s weird that the the miraculous aren’t meant to be used for evil purposes, yet the words Gabriel uses to transform into Hawkmoth are “dark wings rise“? 💀
Chatnoir:Milady had I ever tell you that you turn my world upside down? Is the best scene ever also “from this day on I shall be known as hawk moth” more like a failure that can’t steal miraculous from motherfvcking children💀💀💀💀
My idea of the moth/butterfly could be used on people in a high emotional state like excitement or rage. The user could slightly alter the ability or gain new powers. I feel like the black cat do have a second power but Adrian can't use it due to many factors. A) his mindset of pleasing the leader of his life( his father and ladybug). B) he doesn't have a true goal. We know he like fencing and spending time with his friends. Adrian is going through most of this blind with no mentor figure to guide him.
I cannot wait to see how many sins the new London Special will have xD, cuz trust me, there are so SO many things that infuriates me, makes no sense, and I think that a video of that would relief myself
I commented this on the last one (so sorry TH-cam took it down) I think it would make more sense thematically if Cat Noir purified the akumas since he would "destroy the evil" while Ladybug fixed the city. Plus it would mean they actually have to work together instead of it being "the all powerful one and some guy in a cat suit" edit: I forgot to really say why I think Cat Noir makes more sense to purify the akumas
Alya. Your advice makes me want to pull my hair out. All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good people do nothing. Screw that advice! Just ugh!!!
It’s actually the butterfly miraculous, he owned the book that said the catch phrase in it, he had the butterflies because of his deceased wife, and they aren’t devoted followers because he’s using it for the wrong reasons, and that is his consequence. Wayzz can’t help Nooroo because she’s under Hawk Moth’s control and can’t be set free.
Rabbit miraculous holder can also "sense" anomalies or disturbances in the timeline, so if this counts as a power then rabbit miraculous also has 2 powers
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Ah-ha, I was wondering when you would re-emerge!
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@@officialmiraculoussins I think the reason you aren't supposed to kill the akuma is because it can unbalance the person from which the negative emotion came from, rendering them unable to feel that negative emotion. Negative emotions in themselves aren't bad, it is the imbalance that causes improper behaviors that is bad. At least that's my theory. Also the butterfly is innocent victim of being imbued with evil power , killing butterflies because you think they are evil sets a wrong message to younger viewers... maybe?
@@officialmiraculoussinsI’m trying to join the discord but it says the link is expired
Ivan was really the first ever character to question the fact that ladybug knows his name , and I agree with Su Han more and more , Fu really is an idiot
There are a few other times but I can’t remember who
Su han spit facts everytime he opened his mouth until he was mischarcteried nerfed and gaslit by mari
For sin number 5, it is actually called the butterfly miraculous, which is why he uses butterflies. As for why he calls himself Hawkmoth, I think it because moths are “bad” while butterflies are “good”. It’s dumb, but that’s what the writers said.
uh.. at 0:24 nooroo called it the moth brooch, i know its a butterfly, but im still confused why nooroo said that (probably lazy writing, idk)
@@thesilliestdoodlerhawkmoth is called “papilion” in the french dub which is french for butterfly. The french dub is pretty much the original dub since the show is french. Nooroo calling the miraculous the moth brooch is prob a dubbing error or the writers changed things so that “hawkmoth” makes sense
In the french dub he’s called “papillon” (french for butterfly). Why didn’t they just keep his name in the english dub and called it a day instead of making a mess
@@ree57brzi French guy here and I just want to add that in french "Moth" are called "Butterfly of the night" in french
(Also yes he does have the miraculous of Butterfly in the french version)
@artstuff5224 maybe he's just a crazy moth lady
(Omg, I need it in a fanart now aaahh)
My head canon now is that fu didn’t choose miranette and adrien because they’d be good superheroes he chose them because of the massive amount of Mari sue plot powers.
Hahahah in that case, he chose brilliantly!
@@officialmiraculoussins imagine if it was the kwamis that chose their holders
Edit: this what happens in the miraculous movie (no not miraculous world special)
My head canon is that the way Miraculous' work is that they respond to emotions. The stronger the emotion, the more heightened the response. The reason so many of the wearers are teenagers is because teenagers tend to have stronger emotions, so the miraculous' are naturally drawn towards them. Teens/People with stronger emotions (such as someone "grieving" over his dead wife) can help the miraculous' achieve their maximum strength.
@@yourlostsocks That’s actually such a cool headcanon :0
@@officialmiraculoussins see when you do season 2 can you do zombizou first
Rewriting it from the first vid- my theory for the whole “needing negative feelings” bit for Hawk math. He doesn’t NEED it, but for him, it’s just easier to manipulate his victims into doing his own bidding! Because then he can “give” them a way to feel better and take revenge on those who wronged them, and “only” have to give the cat and ladybug miraculous as payment. So in an emotionally clouded mind- it would be a win-win! Sorry if it doesn’t make sense, I tried.
Makes sense to me!
i like to imagine that the power of the butterfly latches on to the part of you that wants to Do Something, and empowers that part of you to take over any reservations the rest of you might have, while also giving you the ability to get that Something done. that means that targeting someone who wants to hurt someone tends to give them powers that are pretty good in a fight. despair is a lot easier to warp into anger than happiness is.
It does make sense at that point. But I would like to point out that in some episodes (Sandboy, Backwarder, Jubilation...) we learn that Butterfly miraculous holder can sense negative emotions of people. And if only Gabriel needed the negative emotions to manipulate people, then how come butterfly miraculous just has this ability(if it's not intended to be used for evil). It's not consisnet to its power. One and only explanation I can think for this, is that Gabriel unknowingly or knowingly pushed the limits of the miraculous power and now the miraculous can just do this for him. Like when Ladybug learnt that she could create magical charms, the same case with Gabriel and this incosistence.
@@tsabutashvili_andria that is fair… but this IS also miraculous we’re talking about- it’s not fully consistent with its stuff… but it would make sense that Gabriel pushed the miraculous so it does that- idk, there will never be an explanation, I’m not sure if the creators have an explanation cause why would people make an EVIL miraculous?
@@Ja1id3n Couldn't agree more
Adrien: She’s just a friend.
I have no problem with this. Friendship is magic after all!
i wonder some Pony would make that joke.
my little pony
@@hannatheanimatorwhopokemon you said it.
@@sethcarlow8363 i used to wonder what friendship could be
16:14 - Trying to be a good father.
16:19 - Rushing into the lair for villany.
That was fast.
He’s a runner he’s a track star!
I feel like bringinv this up as it hasn't been in the video: how in the world did master fu put the miraculeses in their rooms?! Did he just break into their rooms while they were at school/trying to go to school?! If yes then how did he know where 2 teenagers he JUST MET lived?!
@@Pebbleveryepicfr Tikki and Plagg have been seen multiple times flying with the miraculouses (in Reflekta 2.0 for example) so they could’ve just been flying there. Also Adrien Agreste is really famous model on a lot of posters nd stuffy 😭so it’s easy to guess it plus Marinette came out of the Bakery and Fu could’ve just asked about who the girl who just came out was or even just seen a picture in there it’s really not clear but yeah I get your point
I mean, technically he saw Marinette come from the bakery, and Adrien is famous, so everyone knows where he lives. But it is still creepy!
he woulda sent wayzz to break in
Sally’s rival is slowly becoming the devilish detail known as “Quantum masking”
Mmhm yes these kids helped me cross the road lemme just entrust them with two of the most powerful artefacts and lay the fate of the world on their shoulders
what could poossssibbblllyyyy go wrong?
@@raynenixstar uhhh nothing? Duh
@@Goosetales0duhhhhh!
didnt Allmight do the same thing?
Yes, in fact we didn’t see Nooroo tell Gabriel the way to transform at ALL. Didn’t tell him that there’s other miraculous to try to take as well.
Fu just tried to manipulate someone into thinking he wasn’t going to make it to the sidewalk, and of course it had to be Marinette. Just like the power rangers, “let’s have some teenagers have every Parisian on their shoulders. Yes, yes.” They aren’t even adults yet and they have the whole city of Paris on their shoulders, give them time and choose people that are actual adults.
well, in the original, all miraculous have the same transformation phrase "(insert kwami) transforme moi" (no idea if i spelled that correctly). And they used the peacock miraculous before, so it would make no sense for him not to know. the kwamis likely told the couple, when they found the miraculouls as they were not evil at that point.
@@SimplyyyBree im pretty sure it says the tranformation words in the book he had
@@proclarushtaonasat Same with the German Dub. They say: (for example) Tikki verwandele mich!
(If my memory serves me correctly 😅)
@@Violet_Plum_Gamings yep
I know this is a reupload because of copyright, and I still blame Thomas. Also, keep up the good work!
Which proves he’s a talentless hack.
24:26 and that’s when his infamous line “sHe’S jUsT a FrIeNd.” Started😭
Hi humans, I exist, I think
I also believe I exist
you do not exist this is a figment of the simulation
@@officialmiraculoussins I’ve calculated, you do exist, very cool
@@shirlsutrela4424 this is a figment of your imagination
@@bruhwrecksnoobs ah, I see, alright then I’ll go contemplate my life
🤓☝️ "AuCtuAlLY" Marinette has four powers which is really interesting because the black cat miraculous really only has one; the miraculous that is supposed to be on par with the ladybug for being powerful only has one application truly yin and yang😂
all just to push the female power trope
He also have nightvision and superhearing but its not as impressive as ladybug powers.
@@masakarar night vision is not even useful since they're barely in a dark room and despite having superhero and he gets caught off guard a lot and it's annoying
Two things about these episodes: Chloe is held hostage so why does alya think Chloe is ladybug. In addition the butterfly miraculous can be a support hero and power up other heroes as seen in the Paris special.
Ah, good point, I forgot about that. I guess the writers and I aren't so different after all.
The butterfly also however comes with the plethora of other ablites that make me feel like using it for good was an after thought
17:05
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Betterfly from Shadybug & Claw Noir used his powers for good, and managed to use his kamikos (which would be hawkmoths akumas) to give catnoir flight abilities to help them get away.
So I think the reason why is because he has to have negative emotions/people who want revenge to create supervillains, because there'd be no point in giving powers to someone that gives them the ability to do something they don't want to do, they'd reject it.
In Zombizou, Mrs Bustier didn't want to harm anyone, but she was thinking negatively. So Hawkmoth could manipulate her and got her to do what he wanted.
In Kuro Neko Plagg said that you costume also changes to fit your personality. I was also thinking that when Marinette used her Kwagatama to talk to Scarlet Fate, she had a sword instead of a yo-yo. So maybe the miraculous also adapts for what the holder needs to do.
Edit: I don't remember which episode but I think I remember an episode saying that their objects also change overtime. Because it wouldn't make any sense to give the superheroes yo-yos with phones built into them 600 years ago, lol.
I realised that only the cat, fox and ladybug miraculous have technology/phones built into them.
and the moth and peacock support basic comunication though voice
Well betterfly is a terrible user
The bee also works as a phone, but in a less modern form.
9:32 this EXACTLY
throughout the entire show they spend so much time protecting themselves and helplessly watching random people be trapped, picked up, thrown, crushed, etc as if they dont have MAGICAL POWERS
once again; welcome to miraculous, where half the va’s voiced in a certain killing game
@@le_sweetcandypop genshin impact?
@@laibahmuntaha I think it's danganronpa
@@le_sweetcandypop i still cant believe KIM and shuichi are the same va, i can get kim and leon but kim and SHUICHI?!?!
@@ellbellislucky8593 wait, really? (I've played Danganronpa with japanese voice over, so i didn't heard enlgish voices, untill i searched on youtube)
@@NuezWalnut YEAH LEON KIM AND SHUICHI HAVE THE SAME VA
@17:58, Ivan threw his phone as if it's dirt cheap just because of his ... anger?
@@tdman who needs money wh3n you have anger issues
@@7000-ok People needing monney and having anger issue at the same time.
Honestly, Hawkmoth turning teens into villain kinda makes sense?
Teens usually are more emotional and get petty over things so I guess that’s why he targets them more?
i got a notifaction thinking that we got a new miraculous sins episode early just for it to be a re-upload
Aw, I'm sorry, I'll release a new one as soon as I can. And also thank you for watching
@@officialmiraculoussins AHHH U REPLIED OMG IM SHOWING MY FRIENDS RN
I'd question how why ANYONE would believe Chloe might be Ladybug post Origins (chronologically) considering Ladybug saving Chloe in front of EVERYONE IN PARIS, but we all know it's because the writers don't watch the series
Dejvu felt like this has been made before
copyright got her...
The original got taken down, so I had to re-upload it :/
It has I think
@@officialmiraculoussins yeah I know sucks
Same
As a French people, I assure you that we do not have camera on display in our school library, especially one showing the principal office.
2:30 it's actually a very common thing in France! We eat chocolate milk/cereals in bowls
she means like
just a bowl of milk
but yeah lmao
10:07 "Spider-Man looks different here . . ." Yeah, HE DOES...
"WhAt CouLd PossIBuliE gO WroNg???" lol this made me laugh! good job with this one!
1:10 it is the butterfly miraculous btw not the moth he calls himself hawk moth bc thats a type of butterfly
Ohh makes sense
No that's not right , although butterflies and moths come from the same insect group (Lepidoptera) Butterflies are in fact an evolved type of moth , so they are a sort of specialized group that stems from moths, butterflies are a type of moth not the opposite , and hawk moth ( or the sphingidae) is a family of moth , and as we established butterflies stems from moths so we can say they are moths but the opposite would be wrong , so hawk moths are definitely not butterflies idk where you got that information
Sorry i thought they were lol idk where i got the info either i just heard it once like 100 years ago
2:25 Master Fu went to the Zordon School of Recruiting Superheroes.
I have no idea what that's in reference to, but I like it XD
@officialmiraculoussins Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. Zordon literally asked to summon "Five overbearing and over emotional humans."
I'll be here for all the episodes, all the seasons, and even the movies❤❤❤
based
I went to France once and I swear everyone was crossing the road dangerously. I was like: "Huh. That explains why Master Fu did that"
7:10 as a french guy in high school
I can proove that we absolutely don't have those screen cameras in our library
24:58 I would agree with you, IF i hadn't completely forgotten about Fu, and hated (hates?) Lila with all of my guts. I swear, she's a real-
As a french , NO cameras are NOT common in libraries...
1:10 its actually the BUTTERFLY miraculous his name is only hawkMOTH because i guess moths are sort of the butterflies evil cousin. But overall it is the butterfly miracualous so it should definetly rely on butterflies, i actually don’t know why they say Moth Brooch in this episodes but in episodes to follow (chronologically) it is referred to as the miraculous of the butterfly
6:48 the peacock miraculous also doesn’t have a catchphrase im pretty sure
17:01 the butterfly miraculous is supposed to be used for good. The emotions the person being akumatized feel determine hero or villany. So hawk moth is looking for negative emotions to enhance the angry to create a villain. If it were to be used in the opposite sense, for good, the holder would look for positive emotions, or a well-intentioned person, to enhance the benevolency and create a hero.
Fu said "I can no longer do it alone." But what exactly was he doing?
He's been on the run and in hiding all these years sure, but as far as we know, no one else was after him/knew where to even find him and Hawke Moth made his debut this episode so there were no super villians at this point either.
Too bad my entire page of notes was deleted lol.
Well, the only important thing is that I hope you’re proud of how far this channel has come. I actually discovered it by mistake while searching up stuff about the Pharaoh. It’s really grown since then, and your hard work is definitely paying off. I hope you have an amazing day :)
That is too bad, and I think I forgot to reply to your original comment too. :( But thank you!!!
@@officialmiraculoussins it’s all good! It’ll probably be back up once the video is. But I appreciate you replying to this one instead lol
1:06 because a moth IS basically a type of butterfly
Not really. Moths are a very different species, despite looking a lot alike
Moths: no metabolism, life span of a week at most, nocturnal, cute big eyes, big antenne, more willing to be picked up, cacoon.
Butterflies: thinner antennas, lifespan of about 6 months, chrysalis, more skittish, mouth straw, thinner body
You get the point
They are both part of the insect order known as Lepidoptera, with moths being the name for all members that are not butterflies. The french word papillon can mean both. entering papillon in google translate, comes out as butterfly, while typing papillon de nuit turns it into a moth.
Personally, i like the change, moths feel like the butterflies evil corrupted cousins.
1:43 the comment on 'Hawk Maw' got me coughing up my cereal: KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK!
I know I complained about the style change in the beginning, but now, it’s starting to grow on me
Not you having a better character arc than any of the characters in the show!
@@officialmiraculoussins Ok, why is so true tho?
Thank you very much for doing these videos, you're helping me recover some braincells that I lost watching the show. You're showing us that people with no budget or television aprovement are smarter than people that have. If there's going to be a live action movie adaptation of this show, then you might be one of the best options to save it at least
1:14 he couldve decoded part of the grimoire and figured out the catchphrase, or maybe hes attempted to use the miraculous before when he first discovered it..?
3:41 maybe they revamped the school or moved classes around do thats why sabrina said : “new school"
• adrien and marinette were given the miraculous because fu saw ladybug and chat noir in the past (in evolution s5 e1) and hes studied the miraculous so he knows that usually nothing changes when someone wears the ladybug miraculous and the person hair shape and eyes change when they wear the black cat miraculous ( but that's just a theory, A FILM THEORY )
6:45 i think the peacock and butterfly miraculous not having catchphrases could be because theyre more emotion based
10:46 and as if not anybody can wear the miraculous regardless of their intentions
12:42 plagg mustve pressed the mute + unmute buttons
13:22 not to mention chat nour cataclysms an akuma in chat blanc and traps it in season 5
13:45 london special foreshadowing
13:54 maybe when hawk moth turns the butterfly into an akuma it changes it's physical properties..? (man, this show is really becoming difficult for me to defend)
15:10 i guess the writers just hadn't came up with a motivation for him at that point in time. + 5 sins for bad writing
15:18 which one the wish or the fact that he couldve just waited for ladybug and chat noir to go home than went in the burrow and find out their identities or go back to the past to save his wife via the flashdrive all in all he makes 3+ catastrophically Braindead decisions in szn 5
17:03 tikki must've told her behind the scenes
18:19 maybe gabriel enrolled adrien but then changed his mind????
21:41 +2 sins for foreshadowing and speaking directly to the camera
22:46 seeing as the other helicopters shake the one recording shouldve also
23:42 hawkmoth has schezophrenia and thinks hes being recorded constantly confirmed???
For 105: I heard that Catnoir was actually the name of a fictional hero from stories in their world and his mother use to tell him said stories.
I can't remember exactly where I learned that, but it's just a fun fact.
ooh cool!!
Hello Fair!
About your question with why Nooroo needs Butterflies to function, even though he is categorized as a moth, is (what I think it is, but I may be entirely wrong) because of French subtitles!
Moths in French is Papillon de Nuit, which traducts straight up to night butterflies!
I have never wanted to binge a TH-cam channel more
I LEAVE FOR 15 SECONDS TO GET MY CORNDOGS OUT OF THE MIRCOWAVE AND THE SIN COUNTER IS "∞+94"
Oh my God I'm so glad someone finally said it and I'm going to put that in my FanFiction to complain about it. Why do we never bring up the fact that they can feel each other's aura considering how little Gabriel actually knows about his powers
20:58 the way you randomly said about some character detail in the middle of the plot feel so funny to me for no reason 😭
Thank god! I have been waiting since forever! Hope the next one comes soon. Love your vids
2:02
If wayzz knows what a negative aura feels like, that means nooroo (i think thats its name) has been used by other holders for the purpose of evil
I may be wrong on this, but. Who knows?
I blinked, and the sins were already at ∞ 😭
same 😭
I have to give Nathaniel kudos for not falling for Ladybug when she first presented herself. He has standards. 😊
"Shut your dirty mouth,Adrien I WILL kill you"
Best miraculous quote ever😂😂😂😂
If I'm being honest I think the origins should have been the first episode and part 2 should have been the second episode
Ladybug is the only one who can purify the akuma. It would've been cool if the did the same with Cat Noir, since they have the two most powerful of the miraculous. They could've done like a cool pair thing with their powers. Only issue is that would be putting more light onto Adrien/Cat Noir and GOOD HEAVENS WE CAN'T HAVE THAT......according to Thomas Astruc of course.
Quick note, I did some research and apparently akuma means devil or evil spirt in Japanese so maybe that’s what they were going for, even then I call that a stretch cus I pretty sure this miracle box is meant to be Chinese
It’s meant to be the butterfly miraculous so them calling it the moth miraculous is the sin
I thought the butterfly miraculous used negative emotions so people in distress could have powers that would help them out of the situation. It would make sense for a superhero to give powers to a person in trouble that was not liking to help.
8:40 wait what if Lila was the one that helped master fu would he just be like “yep she’s seems trustworthy after helping me cross a road” or would he sense her “negative aura”
i've heard in french (original language of the show) there's no special transformation phrase so they all say just transform and detransform (not sure if this is true tho) that would explain alot of moments in the show ig
6:16 a few miraculous actually have multiple powers, the ladybug has creation and purification and the butterfly has akuma and empathy, the black cat has destruction and heighten senses (night vision and super hearing) and the peafowl also has empathy along with sentimonsters, while we haven't seen it we can assume the other feline have the same secondary power as the black cat or only the ladybug, black cat, butterfly, and peafowl are the only ones with secondary powers, if that's the case It could be possible the bee, fox, and turtle also have secondary powers since they're ranked at the same level as the butterfly and peafowl.
It wasnt the copyright that took down this video, it was quantum masking. :D
(I think they know that you know too much!)
Oh my gosh, you're so right!
6:49 I mean. In that one time traveller episode where Chris (Nino’s little brother) comes into the current Ladybug and Catnoirs time period. That one girl on roller-skates adult self (who wields the miraculous of bunny) says that they have unlimited time in their superhero form when they’re adults.
So with this info I could make a reasonable assumption that they also have the Freedom (when they’re adults) for other abilities that were partially restricted when they were minors like having to use a specific catchphrase to activate their powers.
But I haven’t watched the show in like 6 months so I might be wrong with this assumption 😅
Lowkey, it never made sense to me how Fu lost the butterfly miraculous. Like the peacock? Now that one makes sense since he was using it. But what are the ODDS that he also only lost ONE single other miraculous, and what are the other odds that it just so happened to the be exact perfect one for Gabriel to end up using in the future.
Like ig fate but damn 😭
it kinda makes sense that hawk moth's ability functions through negative emotions, since those emotions occure because of another negativity which harmed them/treated them badly. in theroy the moth miraculous could be used as a response to an evil act, and hawky does kinda use it that way.
cat noir is the name of a character of a book his mom used to read for him , the holders were just called holder of the black cat Miraculous. but it's just lazy writing since chat noir means black cat.
1:58 Later episodes clarify that there’s an entire magical dimension within the Miracle Box.
4:49 As a fan c Ross over pointed out when this point was brought up: How? (Superheroes) don’t exactly advertise in the Yellow Pages
Remove a sin for providing a plot device to be used 10 years later
Which one is that?
@@officialmiraculoussins The new London special uses the fact that she put the earings in her drawer, so she has a place to borrow them from without disrupting the timeline
Ah . . . that's . . . interesting 😂
@@officialmiraculoussins Wibbly wobbly timey wimey!
Exactly 😂
yooo, I came across your channel the day before yesterday and was upset that the last video was a month ago, a pleasant surprise heehehe
Oh, nice, welcome! I hope you enjoy your stay!
She could let people die and get the Akuma, then use Miraculous Ladybugs.
Are there limitations to Miraculous Ladybugs?
What are the rules?
Making a Gory death would answer my question and set the rules.
You can in fact kill the akuma
Claw Noire did it in Paris special
So yeah.... Cat Noire can deal with hawkmoth by himself too
I said it once and I'll say it again:
I kinda always had a theory about the butterfly Miraculous. Granted, I'm only just rejoining the fandom and haven't watched the new season yet, but the idea is that the original purpose was to find people who had been harmed by an injustice, and turn them into temporary heroes to find the bad guys and take them out. That would explain the powers. However, Hawkmoth instead uses the butterfly Miraculous to find negative emotions and help them get revenge instead of justice.
Also, if I was in Fu's place, I would prob give them the Pig Miraculous(I feel like the positive powers could help fight the negative emotions in the Akuma?? We already know it's possible to reject/fight an Akuma) and the ox Miraculous or something since, well, the Pig isn't exactly meant for combat. Or maybe wasp since its just immobilization!! Watch over the heroes, if they do well, swap their Miraculous for something stronger. Steadily lead up to the cat and ladybug!!
At the end of each season could you do a season round up with the amount of sins from the entire season, your fave episodes, the worst written episodes, all of the plot holes opened etc
I have to point out the scene where Nathaniel’s head is on his desk for the entire `Adrien in class’ scene again. People need to know.
when they are given the miraculous, Marinette and Adrien (correct me if I'm wrong) are THIRTEEN. like that is JUST barely a teenager and you want them to save a city, defeat villains andhave what feels like a hundred life or death situations and/or near to death experiences. i totally agree with Master Fu is the real villain here 😭😭
i will never get why fictional "guardians" choose LITERAL TEENAGERS to save the world.
5:30 there’s a saying that you shouldn’t try and communicate on the 13th floor, so while it’s unfair of her to not hear him out it also makes a little bit of sense bc everyone needs to calm down first
2:31 It's actually what people do in France, they use chocolate milk for cereal
“Assio, accio? Yer a wizerd harry.”
“And you’re a hairy wizard”
“WHA-“
*roll credits*
Me watching the video without looking at the sin count: "I should look at the counter"
Looks at it: "WHAT THE-, 2 INFINITY?!?!?!?!?!?!?!"
I finally got to updating my fic with the stuff you pointed out, awesome video
For the not controlling his villains part LILA CAN CONTROL THE PEOPLE SHE AKUMATIZES ISN'T IT EXCITING
O.O
Noooooooooo we cannot make my boi more incopetant I will not stand for this gabrial slander
My headcanon is that the catchphrase for the Moth Miraculous is supposed to be “empower”, but Hawk Moth changed it to “evilize” to be more dramatic
Makes sense while being stupid makes sense
17:08
I always figured the butterfly miraculous' main function was to solve problems.
It detects negative emotions which helps scout out people that might be in the need of aid, and the akumas allow the holder to help from a safe distance if the area is hard to reach. Like a good butterfly holder might akumatize someone stuck in a burning building so they can escape, or akumatize someone that just suffered from a car accident to be able to heal themselves and their loved ones.
I do think the butterfly's aesthetics being so obviously evil doesn't help it's case, since its so weird how dark and evil looking it is, but saying the power is tailor made for evil seems a bit cherrypicky imho.
Great video overall though, i just couldn't help but point this one out.
exactly! all the miraculous were supposed to be used for good, but the butterfly miraculous fell into the wrong hands.
omg i love your voice, it make me see all videos !! i cant wait for another episode. You have a very good pount of view
Funfact: it is the butterfly miraculous but hawkdaddy likes to be edgy.
Hawkdaddy 💀
@@officialmiraculoussins hawkdaddy , fathermoth
Both, both is gud🫦
It’s weird that the the miraculous aren’t meant to be used for evil purposes, yet the words Gabriel uses to transform into Hawkmoth are “dark wings rise“? 💀
i mean some moths have dark wings... /hj
you got a point though
Chatnoir:Milady had I ever tell you that you turn my world upside down? Is the best scene ever also “from this day on I shall be known as hawk moth” more like a failure that can’t steal miraculous from motherfvcking children💀💀💀💀
In his defense that plot armor is thicker then.... well you watch anime?
4:31
3:20 *5 seasons later...*
Waypha-5: Why must it always be teenagers (aiyaiyai) 🤦
We love quantum masking!!!!
*dying in the inside…*
💀
@@KileyPastel plus 1 sin for reminding me of its existence
@@7000-okat least I don’t have 3infinity sins 😂
@KileyPastel ... plus 3infinite sins because I'm petty
And wish to see you suffer
21:39 he’s breaking the fourth wall here like he had known he was being filmed the entire time.
These miraculous ladybug sins thing is so good I’m sad you don’t upload more 😭
My idea of the moth/butterfly could be used on people in a high emotional state like excitement or rage. The user could slightly alter the ability or gain new powers. I feel like the black cat do have a second power but Adrian can't use it due to many factors.
A) his mindset of pleasing the leader of his life( his father and ladybug).
B) he doesn't have a true goal.
We know he like fencing and spending time with his friends.
Adrian is going through most of this blind with no mentor figure to guide him.
I cannot wait to see how many sins the new London Special will have xD, cuz trust me, there are so SO many things that infuriates me, makes no sense, and I think that a video of that would relief myself
I commented this on the last one (so sorry TH-cam took it down)
I think it would make more sense thematically if Cat Noir purified the akumas since he would "destroy the evil" while Ladybug fixed the city.
Plus it would mean they actually have to work together instead of it being "the all powerful one and some guy in a cat suit"
edit: I forgot to really say why I think Cat Noir makes more sense to purify the akumas
that makes sense
Absolutlx makes sense would make the tikki and plagg unification more imprasive
I knew this video had already been uploaded, I get to watch it for the first time! Twice!! :D
I like your attitude! 😂
@@officialmiraculoussins :D Hooray! Also your amazing oml 🫶
Alya. Your advice makes me want to pull my hair out.
All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good people do nothing.
Screw that advice! Just ugh!!!
It’s actually the butterfly miraculous, he owned the book that said the catch phrase in it, he had the butterflies because of his deceased wife, and they aren’t devoted followers because he’s using it for the wrong reasons, and that is his consequence. Wayzz can’t help Nooroo because she’s under Hawk Moth’s control and can’t be set free.
"WHY DOES IT HURT SO MUCH???"
Rabbit miraculous holder can also "sense" anomalies or disturbances in the timeline, so if this counts as a power then rabbit miraculous also has 2 powers