Sweet setup! Been on over a year hiatus from flying but all of my rigs are of course Apex/Kiss/Fetec/TBS... you know, the right stuff... so I will have the need now to get back in as part of my journey and need to get re-informed as to what new rigs I will need. So of course I came here looking for good info and you never disappoint Steele! Thanks for your consistency! Can't wait to get building and flying again!
hi, thanks for sharing yuor pids I converted one of my betaflight quads an ApexDC to fettec (just the FC) and it flies marvelous... no hot motors and very consistent!!
I planned to do exactly the same with VTX. HDzero for freestyle. And O3 for exploring and cinematics. You just need money and space in your bag for a second pair of goggles. 😊
Steel is an amazing flying God and it's cool to hear some of his secrets. AWESOME VIDEO. He's not a Luddite. He likes what works best for him and isn't a crusader.
Man I really appreciate you doing this for us! I hope there is a plan to release similar pids/configuration for your analog freestyle quad, which I like ver much and fly exclusively and will continue to fly till the last CCD sensor available on this planet.
Dude thank you for this video a lot of us been waiting for your perspective on a video like this we all value your insights and teaching in this hobby man so thank you :)
i have question. installed dji o3 on my kiss ultra v1. and didn't get battery osd. always in zero, i put bec on it and nothing works, tried pads and port . still no battery voltage in osd. is there any option to get osd ?
I just flashed the esc from kiss to alpha and now when I arm the drone and give a little bit of throttle the drone takes off like a bayblade. Any idea what's wrong?
Any reason you went with 50V caps instead of 35V (what most people do I think?). I've gone back and forth and haven't found the 50V to be better but maybe you've found something I never noticed. Happy to see a technical quad breakdown vid from you again 😄
I just built a Mr Steele Apex EVO and it flys fantastic but for some reason I can’t get turtle mode or the buzzer to work. Any ideas? Yes the radio switches are setup correctly and yes they show up as working on the KISS GUI. Thanks
What’s the exact fettec ESC settings. I always get caught up in the FW for the FC pids/rates etc. but never ask the ESC settings both fettec and non. TIA.
I have this frame, really nice frame, except there was no room for the CAP, so I had to remote mount it. Where in the hell did you put your cap or did you just not put one on?
I haven't bothered much with my other betaflight freestyle quads since building an AOS5 with that T-Motor G4 fettec firmware fc with matching 60A dshot2400 esc. It just flies a lot more predictable and I find myself banging into less things even with a 60fps polar camera. I might actually get the new AOS motors for this build. Yum. EDIT: surprised you haven't slapped the CNC gimbals in that mambo yet, theyr'e gold in the tango 2.
I didn't think freestyle could be so fast and aggressive with the O3 unit (but that is also because you use DJI Goggles V2 and not Goggles 2?). I actually wanted to run HDzero and O3 in parallel. Maybe I'll buy the O3 first and compare it with analogue. If the latency is too negative for me, I'll buy HDzero too...
Hi Steele, Any thoughts on the 45A Fettec esc vs the new 65A? Do you think the 45A is adequate for 6S freestyle and some occasional flights with a GoPro Hero?
There is a difference i have both but cant see any reason to use more money for the same job it's like there are more punch and response in the 45a and the 65 is more flat/dead ❤
are you missing the vertical fov with the 03 unit and v2 gogs? is it worth getting the 03 units? or is it worth hanging in there with old vistas as long as i can?
So is that soft where a flight controller or is it something you add to Existing flight controller always injoy watching you fly man keep them props spinning
Ramp up sorry and yes I got it working it's a lot different on the new ethix mambo remote but yes I found the original one and got it working again thanks
Hey Steele coming from BFLT, i have the parts for my first Fettec build here. Would you recommend me trying first Kiss or go directly with Alpha? Cheers
For real though. You ever stop to think about how a comment like that makes the poster feel? You ever made videos and had people tell you are not good anymore? Maybe people are going through something or have reasons for doing what they do.
@@MrSteeleFPV oh hi Mr. Steele. Sorry if that made you sad. It wasn't intended that way. But we fell in love with FPV because of your videos. We've flown over 3,000 hours and the past 2 years because we were inspired by you (countless Apex arms and 2206 motors destroyed trying to fly like you). Now we are some of the fastest multi-GP pilots in our chapter. And love freestyle as well. Hope you and your life are well. If you ever get back to flying and posting daily, then you will have a daily captive audience over here. We have another fairly big channel as well that we don't post to anymore because of personal things, so we get it. We long to see you rip balls again, if that's the desire of your heart. Peace, love and blessings to the steele balls himself
And now everyone will start turning to Fettec Alpha and using your settings. At least in my country almost everyone was flying KISS and using your settings to fly like you. Our facebook group for used parts will be full of post for sales 😂😂
Throwing that heavier girl around like nobody's business 😂Nice! An option for a toilet tank top plate configuration for the Apex spare parts list would be more than good. Hint hint wink wink✌️😁
no point in complimenting, you're one of the best fucking fpv pilots in the world.. can you please tell me if with my Tmotor F40 pro IV 2306 1950KV on Apex evo X 5"- all Fettec G4/ESC 45A - HQ Ethix props 3.3/5.1, O3, Hero 5 session, can I still use your tune getging a good flight result ? Thanks
TBH I am flying alpha on 2 of my apex and I dont care for it. I miss the kiss feel. to me alpha feels just like betaflight. so from here on I am just flying betaflight since hardware is half the cost or less.
I was able to get a decent tune on the old gyro. But the new gyro seemed to be more sensitive to different builds. So with the help of Brian we got it dialed You can use these numbers as a baseline for a 5” build. Should be good 👍🏼
It’s no harder to tune than anything. It’s just new and different and when any firmware was new and different it was considered “hard”. My first stab at it, it felt completely foreign. The new Apex tune posted here should be a great starting point for virtually any 5inch. And now people have the option to really fine tune it with PIDtoolbox if they wanna go that route. It’s great that Felix opened it up this way. Now we can see exactly what’s going on and the possibilities are limitless. It’s great firmware and with the apex HD it’s at the top of its game
@@PIDtoolboxon this tune what is the esc sigbtype? It's says 0 in the dump file which is s2m+ow...is this correct and what the hell is that? Lol thanks
Felix (the creator of KISS) left kiss and created a different company no tied to the distributer “flyduino” And his new company is Fettec. And they were still linked for a few years but now Fettec alpha is the Fettec specific FC firmware. I have always flown Felix’s gear. He’s the OG mastermind
@@blutonic yeh im not sure if KISS was still around .. so i was wondering if @MrSteelefpv was using something new that is like KISS or is KISS manufacturing under a new name or what.. ?:) .. only he can tell us!
@@MrSteeleFPV exactly thats what i was thinking cos you always flew kiss and encouraged everyone to do so .. i have flown many kiss rigs over the years.. on your recommendation .. and always had good experinece with them .. thanks for the update !
Man took a break from building Porsches
Thanks for the shout out Steele! Looks like it's flying real good. Hopefully Felix adds some more control over rates :-)
🤞
Thanks Brian ! ! First time Alpha felt right 👍
Sweet setup! Been on over a year hiatus from flying but all of my rigs are of course Apex/Kiss/Fetec/TBS... you know, the right stuff... so I will have the need now to get back in as part of my journey and need to get re-informed as to what new rigs I will need. So of course I came here looking for good info and you never disappoint Steele! Thanks for your consistency! Can't wait to get building and flying again!
Thank you so much Sir Steele....I think the whole world was waiting on this video.....now we can move forward with our build....yu a beast boy!!!
We really would love to see some analog freestyle again soon😢 even digital freestyle…
But love your work❤ and keep it up.🎉🎉😊
I just built the exact setup and used your tune and rates. Flys amazingly at six thousand above sea level with the candy canes ❤
Finally! Nice! I also switched to Fettec Alpha last week and am now happy with my PIDs. I'll still try your PIDs. I'm very excited!
hi, thanks for sharing yuor pids I converted one of my betaflight quads an ApexDC to fettec (just the FC) and it flies marvelous... no hot motors and very consistent!!
Ok now I’m finally ready to try an Apex with Fettec. Thanks for sharing your setup Steele🎉
I planned to do exactly the same with VTX. HDzero for freestyle. And O3 for exploring and cinematics.
You just need money and space in your bag for a second pair of goggles. 😊
Been waiting for this 🙏 alpha is the shit, but tuning is a different story..can’t wait to test those settings. Thanks!
💙💙💙 love the videos as always, always love going back and rewatching videos just because every video is always gonna be great from steele💙
Man Mr Steele, that's a good setup! It flies smooth and controllable. A really good job! Thank you for that. 👍
Steel is an amazing flying God and it's cool to hear some of his secrets. AWESOME VIDEO. He's not a Luddite. He likes what works best for him and isn't a crusader.
This is my first FETec I've ever bought on the itsFPV ERA frame i just built it and i can't wait to try it out.
Tidy build and look forward to ripping the tune m8.
Thanks to you both..🤘🏼😎
Man I really appreciate you doing this for us! I hope there is a plan to release similar pids/configuration for your analog freestyle quad, which I like ver much and fly exclusively and will continue to fly till the last CCD sensor available on this planet.
Ewwww. Ancient tech dude. Like flying through a dirty screen door on a foggy day
11:00 prop deflection… is that normal/bad and a thing to worry about?
Thank you so much Steele! Your a BEAST! Cheers!
Mr Steele when are you going to show us your latest analog build?
Such a good timing for me. Thanks man.
I like that frame too but I dont like how the top part of the frame is curved and so battery straps don't sit evenly, do you have a solution??
Dude thank you for this video a lot of us been waiting for your perspective on a video like this we all value your insights and teaching in this hobby man so thank you :)
i have question. installed dji o3 on my kiss ultra v1. and didn't get battery osd. always in zero, i put bec on it and nothing works, tried pads and port . still no battery voltage in osd. is there any option to get osd ?
You said it and you did it. Thank you 💪
Steele you live my dream life! Keep on inspiring homie!
I like alternating straps. Seems logical for me that this is a superior mount compared to 2 straps in same direction...
What are your pids on the digital builds without the gopro?:)
No matter how many times I watch you fly, it's just fuq'n awesome...
Just one question, you say you have polarized antenna, should they be at right angles to each other?
This DJI action cam seems to be great for light build.
LETS GOOOOO MR STEELE POSTED NEW RATES
PS: I still have the signed shades from 2018 :D
I just flashed the esc from kiss to alpha and now when I arm the drone and give a little bit of throttle the drone takes off like a bayblade. Any idea what's wrong?
Maybe your pids are too sensitive?!
Is the capacitor and the spike absorber soldered to the battery pads for your XT60 lead? How are they wired together?
I'm convinced you could throw a Wii-mote FC on the quad and still rip balls. Glad to see it bro, cheers 🍻
Love the "voice" you use when quoting other peeps....cracks me up.
#teamfailsafe
Any reason you went with 50V caps instead of 35V (what most people do I think?). I've gone back and forth and haven't found the 50V to be better but maybe you've found something I never noticed. Happy to see a technical quad breakdown vid from you again 😄
The holy Grail of pids finally 😮💨
I just built a Mr Steele Apex EVO and it flys fantastic but for some reason I can’t get turtle mode or the buzzer to work. Any ideas?
Yes the radio switches are setup correctly and yes they show up as working on the KISS GUI.
Thanks
What’s the exact fettec ESC settings. I always get caught up in the FW for the FC pids/rates etc. but never ask the ESC settings both fettec and non. TIA.
I have this frame, really nice frame, except there was no room for the CAP, so I had to remote mount it. Where in the hell did you put your cap or did you just not put one on?
What a wonderful crazy flight!
I haven't bothered much with my other betaflight freestyle quads since building an AOS5 with that T-Motor G4 fettec firmware fc with matching 60A dshot2400 esc. It just flies a lot more predictable and I find myself banging into less things even with a 60fps polar camera. I might actually get the new AOS motors for this build. Yum. EDIT: surprised you haven't slapped the CNC gimbals in that mambo yet, theyr'e gold in the tango 2.
I too fought with alpha fw. Very interesting indeed
Do you have a link to the 3D mount? Perfect perfect mount.
Guys is it lame I STILL fly only analogue? lol Im glad your still at it Mr Steve
Does the ALPHA support throttle idle same as into KISS ? Thanks
Do you even fly bro?
gym, tan, flyduino.
I didn't think freestyle could be so fast and aggressive with the O3 unit (but that is also because you use DJI Goggles V2 and not Goggles 2?). I actually wanted to run HDzero and O3 in parallel. Maybe I'll buy the O3 first and compare it with analogue. If the latency is too negative for me, I'll buy HDzero too...
Latency is only in your mind. Once you get the feel for 03’s you won’t feel it anymore
Hi Steele, Any thoughts on the 45A Fettec esc vs the new 65A? Do you think the 45A is adequate for 6S freestyle and some occasional flights with a GoPro Hero?
There is a difference i have both but cant see any reason to use more money for the same job it's like there are more punch and response in the 45a and the 65 is more flat/dead ❤
Have you stuck with the double antenna? And did you go to an 11mini?
what setup are you using for antennas on the O3????!!!!????
@Mr Steele any chance you can share stl file for this antenna mount?
are you missing the vertical fov with the 03 unit and v2 gogs? is it worth getting the 03 units? or is it worth hanging in there with old vistas as long as i can?
Thank you again for this it's helped so much
Where to buy your thumbs?😀
Sick bruh 🙌
Do you soft mount the O3 or just mount it?
Yo steele i love your content been watching since the rotor riot days I just had a quick question what are your GoPro settings for cinematic flight?
So is that soft where a flight controller or is it something you add to Existing flight controller always injoy watching you fly man keep them props spinning
Thanks for this video.
Can I try the same pids on my lighter apex evo setup of 650g ?
Thanks! Great content!
Hey man wheres all the OG apex frames at ?
No remote ID? :p
you like apha over ultra?
Insane quad!! very impressive!!
when is the Crotchy coming out? Chesty is not the right one for me.
My drones gone forever on a mountain. I have a clean slate to start with for the first time.
How did you connect the o3 air unit the the fc? i cant figure it out.
i think your mic is trippin or my end is idk only done it on your vid sounds like 2 mics to close
Is there a way to pre arm like you did in the kiss v2
I remember there being a way but I haven’t messed with it much
@@MrSteeleFPV thanks
Ramp up sorry and yes I got it working it's a lot different on the new ethix mambo remote but yes I found the original one and got it working again thanks
Hey Steele coming from BFLT, i have the parts for my first Fettec build here. Would you recommend me trying first Kiss or go directly with Alpha?
Cheers
Straight to alpha unless you have a solid pid and rate path for your build
How do you black box it?
Hey sir are you still running idle up and dshot2400 ?
On alpha I just arm like a normal peasant now lol. I’m not sure if dshot2400 is a thing on alpha. There’s no option as far as I know
@@MrSteeleFPV I love it. Keep up the content
Thank you for Sharing,...... Bro,....!!Good Luck Always.......!!!🙏
Nutty....birds flying like a 5"....oh wait I fly wings...what do I know😂😂😂😂
Why on earth did Fettec invent a new Rate method? Don't we have enough of them?
You have a beautiful home.
0:26 damn
🔥🔥🔥 bro!❤
Can i fly it?😂😂😂
how much are your cam degres
Roughly 15-20
Nice transition bru
Ethix crossfire mambo soon?
Now is analog turn
Hdzero freestyle build next
Awesome Video
Man 3d printer files would be nice.
I remember when Mr. Steele used to be a good pilot, making interesting videos. Those were the days
Me too he sucks now
For real though. You ever stop to think about how a comment like that makes the poster feel? You ever made videos and had people tell you are not good anymore? Maybe people are going through something or have reasons for doing what they do.
@@MrSteeleFPV oh hi Mr. Steele. Sorry if that made you sad. It wasn't intended that way. But we fell in love with FPV because of your videos. We've flown over 3,000 hours and the past 2 years because we were inspired by you (countless Apex arms and 2206 motors destroyed trying to fly like you). Now we are some of the fastest multi-GP pilots in our chapter. And love freestyle as well. Hope you and your life are well. If you ever get back to flying and posting daily, then you will have a daily captive audience over here. We have another fairly big channel as well that we don't post to anymore because of personal things, so we get it. We long to see you rip balls again, if that's the desire of your heart. Peace, love and blessings to the steele balls himself
@@theringoffire3228You got a mouse in your pocket?
Mr Steele for Prez
And now everyone will start turning to Fettec Alpha and using your settings.
At least in my country almost everyone was flying KISS and using your settings to fly like you.
Our facebook group for used parts will be full of post for sales 😂😂
Throwing that heavier girl around like nobody's business 😂Nice!
An option for a toilet tank top plate configuration for the Apex spare parts list would be more than good.
Hint hint wink wink✌️😁
Bro started talking bout geometry at the end. Who knew ESCs communicate in polygons
Trapezoidal communication homus
@@MrSteeleFPV Sinesoidal Conversation Hummus
no point in complimenting, you're one of the best fucking fpv pilots in the world.. can you please tell me if with my Tmotor F40 pro IV 2306 1950KV on Apex evo X 5"- all Fettec G4/ESC 45A - HQ Ethix props 3.3/5.1, O3, Hero 5 session, can I still use your tune getging a good flight result ? Thanks
no more tracer?
OMG😱😱😱
geniooo !!!
I thought you was sponsored by KISS
TBH I am flying alpha on 2 of my apex and I dont care for it. I miss the kiss feel. to me alpha feels just like betaflight. so from here on I am just flying betaflight since hardware is half the cost or less.
Is there a reason why alpha is so hard to tune? If Steele couldn't tune it, then how does anyone else have a chance of getting a decent tune?
I was able to get a decent tune on the old gyro. But the new gyro seemed to be more sensitive to different builds. So with the help of Brian we got it dialed You can use these numbers as a baseline for a 5” build. Should be good 👍🏼
It’s no harder to tune than anything. It’s just new and different and when any firmware was new and different it was considered “hard”. My first stab at it, it felt completely foreign. The new Apex tune posted here should be a great starting point for virtually any 5inch. And now people have the option to really fine tune it with PIDtoolbox if they wanna go that route. It’s great that Felix opened it up this way. Now we can see exactly what’s going on and the possibilities are limitless. It’s great firmware and with the apex HD it’s at the top of its game
@@PIDtoolboxon this tune what is the esc sigbtype? It's says 0 in the dump file which is s2m+ow...is this correct and what the hell is that? Lol thanks
is FETTEC ALPHA the new kiss?
This is what I'm wondering as well because I was just convinced to try building a KISS quad.
Felix (the creator of KISS) left kiss and created a different company no tied to the distributer “flyduino” And his new company is Fettec. And they were still linked for a few years but now Fettec alpha is the Fettec specific FC firmware.
I have always flown Felix’s gear. He’s the OG mastermind
@@blutonic yeh im not sure if KISS was still around .. so i was wondering if @MrSteelefpv was using something new that is like KISS or is KISS manufacturing under a new name or what.. ?:) .. only he can tell us!
@@MrSteeleFPV exactly thats what i was thinking cos you always flew kiss and encouraged everyone to do so .. i have flown many kiss rigs over the years.. on your recommendation .. and always had good experinece with them .. thanks for the update !