Fun fact, Muhammad Ali also had a black belt in taekwondo, and he also trained grappling for self defense, so he might do better than most people think
@@musa-ali man trained with a handful of pro wrestlers (the scripted kind) in preperation for the inoki fight (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad_Ali_vs._Antonio_Inoki). dunno how much you'd count that as 'serious grappling training' but generally pro wrestlers do have a pretty solid base of collegiate wrestling
So did bruce lee, I think both of them trained with Gene Labell, who is famous for choking out Steven Segal and according to some people Segal pissed himself.
@@FaisalQuadri22 man, but let's be real, if a you g Mike Tyson started Judo and Wrestling with Boxing today at 13, man would have been a destroyer in the UFC
Bruce Lee did have some grappling training. He trained Judo to some degree and made it a point to include a good amount of grappling in his original version of Jeet Kun Do. He even included somethings like hip throws and arm bars in his movies.
Aleksandr Karelin was 287lbs at 6'3 and 10% body fat or less. His biggest problem would be drug testing, but if he got past that, he dominates. Karelin was old and more of a politician than a wrestler in the second half of his career, and he still dominated. The one match he lost was because of a random rule change that was never implemented again and he lost to a guy he'd already dominated 6-0 before.
Karelin would pretty much be Brock Lesnar on Steroids (metaphorically), absolutely terrifying if he would only be a moderately good striker, easily champion material
Karelin already has the best base, so just imagine what he can do if he strikes. Tyson at 21 was already a champ, so imagine a few years of wrestling boot camp would make him an even bigger monster, however I'd imagine he'd have to modify or change his peekaboo style.
Chuck Norris doesn't win a fight by Finnish or decision, he wins, because his opponent quits out of respect 100% undefeated goat champion into his 70's
7:11 Bruce Lee has a more grappling than most think. In way of the dragon and game of death he showcase throws and submissions. The principles of Jeet Kune Do are also very similar to the modern MMA approach to fighting. He was ahead of his time and I think if he was alive and competing today he would do pretty well But I understand the points made in the video and why his viability was ranked lower than others
I think a 20 year old Mike Tyson that cut down to 205 or 185 would be an absolute menace. Given he's got time to learn wrestling and some muay thai techniques. A Mike Tyson that can sprawl and throw elbows and low kicks would dominate the middleweight and light heavyweight division. The reason i don't say heavyweight is because he walks around at about 220 which is the usual weight for fighters at MW and LHW, everyone cuts and he'd have difficulty fighting guys who are 260+ and can grapple, weight doesn't play that big of a role in pure striking sports.
Mike could make lhw but not middleweight because he would fight at the same weight he walked around at while guys like dricus who walk around at 230 weigh 205 fight night. Jon jones would weigh 225 fight night when he fought at lhw.
@@maxrobinson2123 he was 220 in his prime, heavyweight so there's no cutting or anything. There's multiple guys at 185 that walk around at 220 or higher, Pereira, Dricus, Vettori, Costa, Khamzat... there's a lot of guys that cut quite a lot to make MW. Again in striking it doesn't really matter but cutting weight is a good idea if you don't wanna get wrestle-fucked, weight plays a much bigger role in grappling so it would probably be 205 or 185 for Mike. I'm not saying 185 would be easy to make but there's multiple people doing it.
@ I think in 185 his stamina and explosive will tire out very quickly and not be so powerful, look up “Mike Tyson vs buster Mathis jr weigh in photo” and scroll down a lil bit till u see him flexing, he looks really lean there I doubt he could make it to 185 and even if he does he’ll be weak even for stand up, imagine trying to cut down to a weight that your were when u were 12 years old, it would be crazy to be the weight I was at 12 again and I’m sure the same for u.
Bruce Lee used to be a pretty decent grappler and was known for wrestling down and choking out wing chun guys lol. He also knew some early judo and bjj.
You put in the Hulk, Johnny Cage, Royce, and Lesnar… a comic book character, a video game character, and 2 guys who have actually been in the UFC. 😂 You totally fumbled the bag. Easy lay ups; Joe Rogan, Kurt Angle, Steven Seagal, Shaquille O’Neal. You’re welcome
If Brock Lesnar started MMA in 2002, Pride FC would have poached him. Brock was motivated by money, and UFC was struggling before 2005 financially, so a lot of fighters went to japan because Pride had Yakuza fuck you money.
Bruce Lee had grappling in his skill set. He trained in some grapple styles and even in some of his books he showed striking and grappling combinations
Bruce Lee would probably be like bas rutten. Get tapped out early because he has no grappling, then get obsessed with grappling and become really good at it, then go on a great run
Shouldve done micheal jai white, jackie chan, rico verhoeven, a smaller more recent boxer like floyd or lomchenko or sum like that. Maybe also batman if you did hulk and johnny cage
Mikes Low bobbing and weaving will get him a bunch of knees and kicks to the head. Like he'd have to completely rework his entire striking style and he'd have to learn Wrestling + BJJ
Idk about that who is gonna be who is gonna get close enough to knee him and Mike is really fast it won’t be hard for him to close the distance after a few kicks
Bruce Li, did have a great grasp on grappling, but that being said, I'm not one of those delusional Bruce Li fantasy nuts. I believe he'd be a contender, but not in the top 5
@@DerberbeveTrue, absolutely. But the question is would he want too, as with Muhammad Ali's mentality, he would want to be the baddest man on the planet and the reality is you can't do that unless you fight at heavy weight. So he would probably choose heavyweight still. Also, we have to consider the fact that Muhammad Ali didn't lift weights and yet still generally walked around at 215, if he started weight training (alongside MMA) at a young age he probably would have been 240 which is more like a true heavyweight.
@sgtvirus6696 ali actually would walk around between 230 and 240. Even in the 60s, there was an interview where he said he was almost 240 before either the 1st or 2nd liston fight. He was 227 for his fight against buster mathis and didn't look too flabby.
Moat of them trained in wrestling and boxing so they're certainly well-rounded. Although grappling on your back was considered "un-manly" in ancient Greece, so they'd provably refuse to learn bjj
You showed a terrible example of boxerS "losing" against grappling in mma. That one match is useless for arguments its not enough. when Rey mercer knocked out ufc champ tim what about that fight?
Keralin was lined up to fight one of the Gracie’s and I’m just saying karalin would maul a Gracie he’s the size of Tom aspinal he’d kill every old school mma heavyweight besides maybe MAYBE fedor
I can guarantee you that Brock Lesnar didn't start to "jump on" steroids when he fought Mark Hunt, he definitely was on that Rocket fuel beforehand. That you can look at overeem and lesnar at the same time and state that one is definitely on that clown juice while the other jumped on it later in his career is hysterical.
Bruce Lee was a good boxer that used to KO people with 1 punch in 1v1 fight. And trained heavyweight kickboxers who told he would spar them in full force sparring and be ok. So he could take a punch and he probably punched good too. Alexander Karelin would just beat everyone and be GOAT. Hulk would win every fight with 1 hit.
Why pick and choose the training factor? Especially Bruce Lee, you assumed he’d be a total non-grappler. Applying his athleticism to grappling, agility and reaction time = takedown defense, submission defense, & being able to escape bottom position. I think with modern training he’d be a beast in a way similar to McGregor with the agility. Love the hulk sequence tho LMAO
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ah yes, my favourite fighting legend, the hulk
Ah yes, my favourite fighting legend, Jake Paul
Hulk has good striking, but nobody check the grappling
He choked out the Abomination with chains. So he's a pretty good grappler.
Ask Loki how grappling with The Hulk turns out 😅
bratha who give hulk belt
Brother who’s taking him down 💀
@@LosHitman thor going summit him
UFC abstinence produces this kind of content
😂
Still a banger idea
Absence*
Hulk gets fraud checked by Paul Craig
No way😭😭😭
Fun fact, Muhammad Ali also had a black belt in taekwondo, and he also trained grappling for self defense, so he might do better than most people think
Reference for the grappling part?
@@musa-ali man trained with a handful of pro wrestlers (the scripted kind) in preperation for the inoki fight (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad_Ali_vs._Antonio_Inoki). dunno how much you'd count that as 'serious grappling training' but generally pro wrestlers do have a pretty solid base of collegiate wrestling
@@musa-ali Saw it on some interview he did, don’t remember where it was from
So did bruce lee, I think both of them trained with Gene Labell, who is famous for choking out Steven Segal and according to some people Segal pissed himself.
@@FreakyPhilchchoking steven segal isn’t tht big of a deal though
The literal breakdown of Hulk’s fighting style got me dying. Aura merchant. 💀
UFC drought is real lol
Lmao fr, I was about to comment the same thing 😂😂
@@FaisalQuadri22 man, but let's be real, if a you g Mike Tyson started Judo and Wrestling with Boxing today at 13, man would have been a destroyer in the UFC
Hulk section had me rolling hats off bro
Bruce Lee did have some grappling training. He trained Judo to some degree and made it a point to include a good amount of grappling in his original version of Jeet Kun Do. He even included somethings like hip throws and arm bars in his movies.
He also did a standing Guillotine on Chuck Norris like Jones did against Machida.
I love how he never even broke character during all of this 😂
Aleksandr Karelin was 287lbs at 6'3 and 10% body fat or less. His biggest problem would be drug testing, but if he got past that, he dominates. Karelin was old and more of a politician than a wrestler in the second half of his career, and he still dominated. The one match he lost was because of a random rule change that was never implemented again and he lost to a guy he'd already dominated 6-0 before.
Karelin would pretty much be Brock Lesnar on Steroids (metaphorically), absolutely terrifying if he would only be a moderately good striker, easily champion material
He could DESTROY anybody in the ufc any era , any style.
Hulk is catching a murder case in the octagon bro, also he can't make the heavyweight limit 😂😂
hes gonna weigh in in his human form
He would one shot every fighter 😂
hes gonna be a light weight bruce banner dont look that big
@@for_nothing_important greatest cutter of all time
@@for_nothing_importanthe’s even cut weight in his human form and make featherweight. Then on fight night he’s Hulk, the cheating on that 😂
The analysis of the hulk had me wheezing. “He’s been taken down multiple times. He’s not the best grappler” was a personal highlight
Karelin already has the best base, so just imagine what he can do if he strikes. Tyson at 21 was already a champ, so imagine a few years of wrestling boot camp would make him an even bigger monster, however I'd imagine he'd have to modify or change his peekaboo style.
Definitely. The threats of kicks elbows and knees are too dangerous
Chuck Norris doesn't win a fight by Finnish or decision, he wins, because his opponent quits out of respect
100% undefeated goat champion into his 70's
Imagine Alexander Karelin learning some striking , or Mike Tyson learning some grappling. They’d be insane
Just give him leglocks and low kicks.
7:11 Bruce Lee has a more grappling than most think. In way of the dragon and game of death he showcase throws and submissions. The principles of Jeet Kune Do are also very similar to the modern MMA approach to fighting. He was ahead of his time and I think if he was alive and competing today he would do pretty well
But I understand the points made in the video and why his viability was ranked lower than others
I think a 20 year old Mike Tyson that cut down to 205 or 185 would be an absolute menace. Given he's got time to learn wrestling and some muay thai techniques. A Mike Tyson that can sprawl and throw elbows and low kicks would dominate the middleweight and light heavyweight division.
The reason i don't say heavyweight is because he walks around at about 220 which is the usual weight for fighters at MW and LHW, everyone cuts and he'd have difficulty fighting guys who are 260+ and can grapple, weight doesn't play that big of a role in pure striking sports.
Mike could make lhw but not middleweight because he would fight at the same weight he walked around at while guys like dricus who walk around at 230 weigh 205 fight night. Jon jones would weigh 225 fight night when he fought at lhw.
No way he could fight 185 he was 190 pounds of muscle at 13 I doubt he be able to catch a breath a 185
@@maxrobinson2123 he was 220 in his prime, heavyweight so there's no cutting or anything. There's multiple guys at 185 that walk around at 220 or higher, Pereira, Dricus, Vettori, Costa, Khamzat... there's a lot of guys that cut quite a lot to make MW. Again in striking it doesn't really matter but cutting weight is a good idea if you don't wanna get wrestle-fucked, weight plays a much bigger role in grappling so it would probably be 205 or 185 for Mike. I'm not saying 185 would be easy to make but there's multiple people doing it.
@ I think in 185 his stamina and explosive will tire out very quickly and not be so powerful, look up “Mike Tyson vs buster Mathis jr weigh in photo” and scroll down a lil bit till u see him flexing, he looks really lean there I doubt he could make it to 185 and even if he does he’ll be weak even for stand up, imagine trying to cut down to a weight that your were when u were 12 years old, it would be crazy to be the weight I was at 12 again and I’m sure the same for u.
10:08 “anyway we’ve got the incredible hulk”
send mike tyson 2/3 years dagestan and forget
What if Fedor Emelianenko actually joined the UFC? Do you think he would be UFC Champion or a loser?
Depending on what time and what year early to late 90s fs champ early to mid 2000s fs but when the late 2000s he’ll lose then mid 2010s retirement
You gotta respect it no ufc still putting out quality content
Bruce Lee used to be a pretty decent grappler and was known for wrestling down and choking out wing chun guys lol. He also knew some early judo and bjj.
You could have included Khadzhimurat Gatsalov who Daniel Cormier thought could have dominated the higher UFC weight classes too.
You should've included Rico Verhoeven (current glory kickboxing heavyweight champ and kickboxing Goat)
Prime Ubereem vs ‘05 Hulk on a fight night woulda gone hard…🔥😂
Hulk loss the Jon Jones by Split Decision
Johnny cage has grappling, every mk character has grappling. There are literally buttons/keys that trigger a grab/grapple.
You put in the Hulk, Johnny Cage, Royce, and Lesnar… a comic book character, a video game character, and 2 guys who have actually been in the UFC. 😂 You totally fumbled the bag. Easy lay ups; Joe Rogan, Kurt Angle, Steven Seagal, Shaquille O’Neal. You’re welcome
Batman😂, micheal jai white,
Hulk is crazy work
I feel like if Ali was a kickboxer I say he’d be one of the slickest kickboxers ever
The Petr Yan of MMA TH-cam
Hahahahaha why?
@Yo-ho6sf never runs out of ideas, deepest bag of tricks on the scene
Bro is a crafty vet
Petr the 🐐
“Can’t even front kick a flyweight in the face” imao
I think Bruce Lee is getting underrated
Chuck Norris doesn't fight in UFC
UFC fights in Chuck Norris
Ah yes, that historical legend the Incredible Hulk. So many days spent in history class learning about him and the Avengers. Good times.
If Brock Lesnar started MMA in 2002, Pride FC would have poached him. Brock was motivated by money, and UFC was struggling before 2005 financially, so a lot of fighters went to japan because Pride had Yakuza fuck you money.
Lucas Tracy type Video
Missed oppurtunity to add Steven Seagal
What I wouldn't give to see steven's ass getting kicked
Bruce Lee had grappling in his skill set. He trained in some grapple styles and even in some of his books he showed striking and grappling combinations
Dude this is a unique idea another w vid by hoppero
Bruce Lee would probably be like bas rutten. Get tapped out early because he has no grappling, then get obsessed with grappling and become really good at it, then go on a great run
This is probably my favourite video you’ve ever done 😂
bruce lee had judo too so he had grappling i think he was a black belt
Bruce Lee does have pretty good grappling
Shouldve done micheal jai white, jackie chan, rico verhoeven, a smaller more recent boxer like floyd or lomchenko or sum like that. Maybe also batman if you did hulk and johnny cage
Mikes Low bobbing and weaving will get him a bunch of knees and kicks to the head. Like he'd have to completely rework his entire striking style and he'd have to learn Wrestling + BJJ
Idk about that who is gonna be who is gonna get close enough to knee him and Mike is really fast it won’t be hard for him to close the distance after a few kicks
Fun fact Bruce Lee actually knew some decent ju-jitsu and Judo, not tryna glaze just saying. I still agree he’s a actor not a ufc fighter 😅
Would love a part 2 with karate goats like Joe Lewis and Andy Hug
Face reveal at 50k!!
If Karelin trained striking, he'd be unbeatable
he forgot batman
He forgot Thor, Mr Incredible, Suoerman, Thing, Rhino, Dr Octopus and many more.
Hulk is just Francis Ngannou
Hulk is fucking like 500 pounds and he has knocked out a fucking flying alien snake
Lucas Tracy ahh video
Bruce Li, did have a great grasp on grappling, but that being said, I'm not one of those delusional Bruce Li fantasy nuts. I believe he'd be a contender, but not in the top 5
mike tyson could cut to 205
and ali
Yh but I feel like he would stay at hw
@@DerberbeveTrue, absolutely. But the question is would he want too, as with Muhammad Ali's mentality, he would want to be the baddest man on the planet and the reality is you can't do that unless you fight at heavy weight. So he would probably choose heavyweight still.
Also, we have to consider the fact that Muhammad Ali didn't lift weights and yet still generally walked around at 215, if he started weight training (alongside MMA) at a young age he probably would have been 240 which is more like a true heavyweight.
@sgtvirus6696 ali actually would walk around between 230 and 240. Even in the 60s, there was an interview where he said he was almost 240 before either the 1st or 2nd liston fight. He was 227 for his fight against buster mathis and didn't look too flabby.
I speak for everyone when I say we need a part 2
Bruce Lee stuied jui jitzu it is in his book
bro this guy saying brock lesnar decided to hop on steroids at ufc 200 while showing pics of him looking like a pro bodybuilder in college😂
I think you underrated Muhammad Ali you didn’t mentioned his amazing speed and jab that would give a lot of fighters trouble
Karelin with legit striking would MAUL anyone who breathes air
Dude kept it straight through each one lol.
How the hell did this guy make me actually believe hulk would struggle against humans
i love how seriously he talks about hulk abilities 😂😂😂
Chuck Norris wouldn't even have to fight. His opponent would run away in fear
I think ali at 205 would be like sliva but with alis footwork and would jab and box more.
I dont mind more of these bit weird or goofy video concepts, fun stuff
Johnny would clean out the heavyweight division without being a heavyweight himself lol
next time - what if these ancient Greek philosophers fight in UFC...
Moat of them trained in wrestling and boxing so they're certainly well-rounded. Although grappling on your back was considered "un-manly" in ancient Greece, so they'd provably refuse to learn bjj
Did he say mohamed ali has a decent fight IQ 😂😂😂 3:38
Muhammad*
I don't think you can convert fight iq over sports
Hulk part was unexpected 😂
You forgot about the mythical Demetrious Johnson with Francis Ngannou's size.
Chuck Norris was an expert in Tang Soo Do, which is another Korean martial art similar to karate
Chuck Norris has a record of 65-5 in Kickboxing 💀
He also has a record of 183-10 in Karate, old karate too it wasn't that point bs
Francis vs the hulk is the real dream matchup
Should have thrown Black Widow (since you threw Hulk in there) in there she's got a lot of Martial Arts under her belt
bruce lee vs jose aldo would have been great fight
I was keeping up with the video, but I started convulsively laughing after Hulk.
Id expect Van Damme, Tony Jaa, Michael Jai White, IP Man, Rocky Balboa and Yuri Boyka. maybe in Part 2
Hulk got his ASS WHOOPED by Thanos.😂😂😂😂😂
Where is John Cena
He isn’t a fighter
@@onyx6799Can't see him that's why
I agree 100% on the Bruce Lee take
What about Charlie Z? Definitely champ material!
You showed a terrible example of boxerS "losing" against grappling in mma.
That one match is useless for arguments its not enough. when Rey mercer knocked out ufc champ tim what about that fight?
Keralin was lined up to fight one of the Gracie’s and I’m just saying karalin would maul a Gracie he’s the size of Tom aspinal he’d kill every old school mma heavyweight besides maybe MAYBE fedor
Imagine Mike Tyson vs Yoel Romero
Imagine skiping Boyka, Ong buck, Rocky, Creed, King Kong, that russian guy who dodged a bullet and Oleg Mongol
I can guarantee you that Brock Lesnar didn't start to "jump on" steroids when he fought Mark Hunt, he definitely was on that Rocket fuel beforehand.
That you can look at overeem and lesnar at the same time and state that one is definitely on that clown juice while the other jumped on it later in his career is hysterical.
hulk fails to make weight
Bruce Lee was a good boxer that used to KO people with 1 punch in 1v1 fight. And trained heavyweight kickboxers who told he would spar them in full force sparring and be ok. So he could take a punch and he probably punched good too.
Alexander Karelin would just beat everyone and be GOAT. Hulk would win every fight with 1 hit.
Aged like Johnny Sins’s nuts
Nice
No Micheal Jai White😮
the video just started is benny the jet in this video
Muhammed ali can be an Anderson silva in heavyweight
Idea's don't end with you huh
Why pick and choose the training factor? Especially Bruce Lee, you assumed he’d be a total non-grappler. Applying his athleticism to grappling, agility and reaction time = takedown defense, submission defense, & being able to escape bottom position. I think with modern training he’d be a beast in a way similar to McGregor with the agility.
Love the hulk sequence tho LMAO
Joe Rogan fuming that u didn't bring up Michael Jai White