Why are you always looking only at the highest cards. You cant say AMD or NVIDIA is better in this category because their highend card performs the best there that says nothing about the mid/lower range. Less than 5% will be able to afford the best of the best. What is way more interesting is looking at which cards perform the best for their price. Also whenever you say „the more expensive“ or „cheaper“ card please include prices. This statement is meaningless for people who don’t have every card and their price memorized.
@@skapeedits Yeah of course, and there is only so much human time that can be put into those reviews. On the issue with price I agree it probably should have been included, but once this video becomes multiple gens or years older it wont matter as much
@@FireFalconyeah but if he is calling the video „deep analysis“ than I’m expecting more. If he doesent wants to put time in his videos he should have just posted the table.
I found it pretty well done. Depending on the prices in your region, you make a choice. For me the 7700xt is under 380$ resealed which is a no brainer considering it's better in every test appart from gpu effects compared to a rtx 4070 lets say, which is now about 500$, albeit with 40-45w less consumption.
I really like this channel since they are the only one covering productivity performances and not gaming. Hoping that they can cover 3d rendering performances as well like in Vray or Lumion.
I think it was MrAlexTech, who mentioned that DaVinci Resolve 19 beta, has hardware GPU support, on the timeline and for output rendering. Only the more advanced features are only still supported in the Studio version, like tracking etc.
That is nothing new! You need to look way more precize into that. The iGPU on Intel doesn H264/5 accelaration since years, depending on the codec. Apple´s SOCs as well and my MBA M1 16GB is wayyy faster than my Intel 13600k overclocked 32GB, only iGPU. So in terms of bang for bug M1 are hard to beat. Or they aren´t actually. Though one has to live with the shitty OS:
@@derJackistweg I don't know about the Apple ecosystem, but on Windows, the difference between the free and paid version of Resolve, is the GPU hardware support. You simply can't export a h.265 video with hardware acceleration. As for whether a CPU can be concidered a GPU, the answer is no. Having an iGPU doesn't change that. It's still a CPU. So when I write GPU, anyone will know what I mean.
@@derJackistweg I worked with M1 Max 32GB system like a 3 month its faster if u only cut and export h264 etc. But when u start to use GPU effects like 3rd party plugins for titles logo reveals etc. or magic mask built in resolve. M1 Max struggle to live render in timeline but my i7-11700 & RTX 3080 32GB Ram system is perfectly works.
Wish the 7900 GRE was included in this. I'm really considering the 7900 GRE since ive seen it as low as $530usd. I wanna see how much it compares in value to the 7900xt, 7800xt, and 4070ti super.
Thank you! I’m curious if anyone in the comments had any experience with Artlist? I gotta admit I’m tired of hunting down songs, sound-bytes, and plugins and would like a simple buffet of all these things. I have some questions
I wish that you would start including how much time is saved when encoding either a 1hour or 30min video using h264/h265/av1 at 1080p/4k/8k to show performance between the video cards.
The 4k and 8k scores are encoding scores, so if you look at the % difference, then you can figure out the time saved respectively. But bare in mind that's a 'clean' timeline without effects, masks, colorgrade the more you have those the better the higher end GPUs do because they're better at GPU effects and have more VRAM, Hope this helps! :)
@@dellasbaker5474that’s something I’ve always tried to understand. These numbers don’t seem to translate for me the amount of time difference between cards
YES upgrading to Studio is a massive jump. I used the free one until I learned the basics then I spent the money for the Studio version. I think you're the lone voice on the content creator side of PC hardware and I for one am glad you're here. Plus you validated a few things that I was using and doing so I feel better! 😄
Cannot be cheap, but would have loved to see the 7900xt GRE here . Anyone with experience? It must be between 7800xt and 7900xt, but closer to the first or the second?
The 7900 GRE is heavily gimped - you'd have to compare specs with where the 7900 xt and 7800 xt are positioned in (puget systems) benchmarks? Personally, I wouldn't bother with that gimped card unless you need to because of price. I'd pick a nvidia card over it if possible, too.
@@danp2306 thanks for the answer. I don't play games and don't do 3d modelling so most of the Nvidia benefits are of no use to me. If I were interested in games or using blender I'd definitely go that way, but AMD seems a much better choice since I'm only interested in Davinci Resolve performance. The question remains: is the GRE closer to the 7900 xt or the 7800 xt. Currently in the UK it's like 50 pounds more for each step up (460, 510, 560) if you find a good deal, but what's the better overall deal?
@@a_ram Only $50 difference between the 7900 xt and 7900 GRE? I'd pick the 7900 XT then. I imagine that the 7900 GRE score/performance might between the 7900 xt and 7800 xt since it's closer to a 7900 xt in some areas and closer to the 7800 xt in others. In gaming, it's closer to the 7800 xt so resale value might reflect that - if you ever decide to sell at a later date.
long story short, put all 3 of them into a machine with an amd 7950x3d and a solid motherboard, nvidia to do the hard work, amd to smooth the video and intel to stream or for postproduction in general, also max out the ram, and put in the machine at least two 15TB u.2 drives
I upgraded my card from an rtx 3070ti to a AMD Radeon 7900 XTX. Absolutely massive. Sure it is more expensive 900 bucks vs 700 for the rtx back at the time. But multiple times faster. The 8gb vram was a massive bottleneck that didnt allow me to multi task. I often need to record additional clips while editing. Which meant I had to constantly open and close obs, the game, and davinci back and forth. Now I can just have all 3 run side by side with no issues. The NV1 encoding at 4k looks really good. I still need to find the sweetspot. I just put it on 10 in obs which creates huge files. But sure it looks like butter I can say so much. I noticed that when I record that there is a different color profile or something. I havent looked into it. But it just so happened that it looks perfect. Giving me the right amount of contrast and colors that I had to tweak manually in the past with the Nvidia Experience overlay. So I am not complaining. The timeline performance is much much better than anything the could the RTX3070 could put up giving me smooth 60fps unless they are uncached heavy fusion effects. Transitions for the most work smoothly. Rendering is multiple times faster. One very big project kept just crashing on my rtx. Needed 3 or 4 attempts to render it and took 4h to complete. The XTX breezed through in 45 minutes. First try. Best upgrade I ever had.
So you don't have any crashing issues or bugs while editing? I'm considering the 7900xtx but I'm worried about compatability with davinci. Also which brand 7900xtx do you have?
@BJMolette I do have the TUF variant. With Davinci I haven't faced big issues. Definitely not more than Nvidia. However the NV1 encoder crashes within OBS. As I do record from the game and drop clips directly to Davinci. So I switched back to h.265 and this works without a hitch. Maybe it is a OBS problem as davicinci itself encodes in av1 too when I export clips and that one doesn't cause issues.
Thanks for the vid! I am building a sub PC for ONLY rendering 8k main 10 h265 vids in davinci. Sometimes I will add both Temporal & Spatial Noise reduction for lowlight scene. So 7900XT or 4070ti super which one you would recommend?
Rtx performance is better in 3060 ,3060 have more vram, higher memory buswidth, more shaders and gaming without rtx is better in 7600 with low price and with low power consump
What card would be appropriate if I use cap cut but want to move to davinci resolve? I watched the video but I'm still undecided. I will be doing promotional short videos for businesses like restaurants or party rentals etc etc and some color correction on photos. Im choosing to build a pc with the i7 12700k.
For a single gpu, is there even a difference in performance with davinci? I know there are limits on formats etc. But performance? Curious for the answer! Maybe a free vs studio video would be cool 😊
im using (13600k+3060ti+uhd770); when i test with free vs studio (with few layers of video with blending mode , no effects) ; studio give 38 times better results compare to free version(note free version not use gpu); like (studio-93.5fps vs free version -2.5fps)
Great video, what mid-range motherboard would you recommend for a corei5 13600K processor, mainly for FHD and 4K video editing in DaVinci Resolve, GPU will be RTX 4070 SUPER Asus ProArt, thanks for the answer.
@@pkflyfishing4803 A very good option too altho ofc a little higher pricing but at that point you can get the Pro z790 A Max WiFi that has much better memory support and an additional x1 pcie slot altho the tomohawk has better usb. It's up to you which you'd benefit more from
@@pkflyfishing4803 Also a very good option altho the z790 pro a Max has better memory support and one more x1 pcie slot while the tomohawk has better usb
If you're not gonna overclock, I'd say try one of the cheaper B760 models. but to be safe, if you're gonna go with Z790 and won't need USB video output then get the Gigabyte Gaming X AX Z790 but if u do, try the one of MSI Mag ones.
The encoder quality is interesting. Thing is the AMD encoder has improved in the last year or so. Before that it didn't use I-frames, if I remember correctly. It's been a while and a bout of brain damage since I worked with low level video encoding, so it might have been something else. But the result was a worse encoding result at a given bitrate. Even after that was fixed it's still not able to encode as well as Nvidia or Intel. So at the same visual quality AMD will require a higher bitrate and the resulting files will be significantly bigger. An interesting thing with the ARC cards is that if you have a Intel CPU with integrated GPU it can work as a second encoder together with the ARC GPU improving performance by, I think it was either 30% or 70%. it's a while since I read about it so I can't remember which.
That's interesting. That's one thing ppl don't usually consider when considering/comparing gpus. So, a 4070 Ti Super may have less vram and be less effective in gaming but for video editing and DR, is it worth getting over a 7900 xtx for that reason? Puget Systems didn't analyze that topic. 🙂
The better tip to not have drivers problems is uninstalling your video drivers with DDU and then reinstall the chipset and GPU drivers with the official utility by your brand. This is a proper clean driver reinstall. PD: sorry if my english is a bit bad, I did not use a traslator to write this message xd
@jackgreen05 thank you for the tip. But I had the problem with already using DDU and the AMD clean install tool. But I found out that it works with the AMD Pro Driver.
yeah arc does work well. It is worth noting it does work slightly well with an intel CPU for content creation, but you wont see much of a difference while choosing ryzen 7000 instead
I love this review and haven't seen the rest of the comments below, my only wish being you testing it with say the RX 6000 series like the RX 6750XT 12Gb or the 6800XT and its 16GB of VRAM
@theTechNotice Hi Tech Notice, I have watched your videos several times, over and over again, but I still can't seem to figure it out so plix halp. I am about to build a new rig soon and video creation will be primary focus with gaming as secondary. I learned from your videos that Intel CPUs have an iGPU and that it's really good for video editing. I also learned that Nvidia 4000 series cards are good because they have AV1. My question is: if I plan to get a 4060 or 4060ti and the plan is to use AV1 in DaVinci Resolve, do I still need Intel's iGPU? Because I think the iGPU only helps with H264 and H265 right? If I don't plan on using H265, then the intel iGPU will be useless, and then I dont have to get 14600k or 14700k, and I can just go Ryzen 7800X3D. It's so efficient and cool-running! Is this correct? Or is Intel iGPU still important even if I plan to use Nvidia and AV1 in DaVinci Resolve? Thanks!
wondering why the fusion score is so different. i get you can do stuff differently in fusion, but you can use many of the same effects and tools in fusion, no?
heyy , i guess "3D tittles in fusion" highly use cache or something where AMD gpus perform well ; can you pls test only 3d tittles with few gpus and find why its happen; (like using few 3d tittles in resolve>encode>note time/fps)
Great and comprehensive video. I like the fact you are showing both types of chart as well which makes it really easy to compare the various scores. 👍👍👍
Hello, thanks for your video! Personally what would you get for competitive gaming + edition on Premiere / Da Vinci Resolve: The RX 7900 GRE or RTX 4070 Super?
@@_fiftyseven_ I just got the GRE and use Davinci. Rendering is quick and looks great, though I am having some stuttering when editing and playing around on the timeline. Not sure if it is gpu related or not. Still doing some troubleshooting.
@@themaddgamer That's nice to know man. Unfortunately, where I live all the 7900 GREs are out of stock so I am limited to 4070 Super only. Keep me updated tho, on your experience with 7900 GRE.
@@_fiftyseven_ So after playing around with some settings and codecs. It seems that the GRE doesn't like the H.265 in Davinci. Recording in H.264 makes things much much smoother.
@@themaddgamer I see. So it seems to me that the 4070 Super is the better choice for this specific task. Thanks for the info, will help in my purchasing decision.
Any reason why you are only comparing gaming cards when talking about professional workflows? Wouldn't it be better to compare gaming and pro cards (QUADRO for example)?
I see you tested the TUF 4080 super, which ended up pretty high on the testresults. I was eyeballing the ROG strix 4080 super oc edition. Would it be safe to assume it will outperform the TUF 4080 super?
@@theTechNotice One more question. The proart also peaked my interest if i wouldn't go for an all white build. Since it's also a 4080 super would it perform equally as well than? am I grasping the concept? :P It would save quite some bucks over the rog strix version.
@@hallmountfilms I would say performance differences among the same series is negligible - I would compare the other intangibles - cooler, noise, price etc.
I Have an 8700K, RTX 2070Super and 32GB of ram and my standard overall score is about 1000. You are getting more than double with an RTX 2060Super. Am I severely CPU bottlenecked?
hey,. why 4090 perform well in 4k,8k,and effects ,but not in fusion? last oct i did some test (13600k+3060ti) with this,. mostly, 4k have 6test which some bottleneck cpu some bottleneck 3d engine and some bottleneck encode&decode engine; and effects have 8 test which always bottleneck 3d engine; but fusion not bottlenecked by cpu/gpu/3d/encoders/decoders ;; (AFAIK it maybe bottleneck by other factors which reduce 4090 score huge)
Server GPU's are generally lower wattage and thus run slower frequencies. They also tend to have ECC memory, or at least old versions did. That also slows down the performance a little. Those are my general guesses. Well there's also the GPU they use. Older versions are generally slower for most things.
Grafic illustrations and benchmarks don't tell us notching about compatybility witch programs for movie edititing. Users complains that Da Vinci Resolve have issues with AMD graphic cards. When you editing material progam can suden quit to Windows. Can you make a test of compatybility of those cards? Thank you.
Check the puget systems website for a benchmark that included the 3080 Ti? It used ver. 0.93.1 but with an older ver. of Davinci Resolve (18.0.3) - score was 2263 so I would guess current performance score would be close to the 4070.
Please don't laugh. I'm still running an i4790, what would be the best graphics card for it? Meaning no high end graphics card that will surely cause a bottleneck. Thanks.
Hello, there is no reason to laugh about it, any CPU you can afford or already had is good don't be ashamed of it For this CPU you could try gtx 1060 which has 5 GB VRAM or RX 580 which has 8, its a matter of preference as I do not know tho which one performs better in editing, nvidia has better technology to say so but the RX gives u much better raw specs, I cannot tell you exactly which to pick but the RX 580 seems a bit safer and can be easily found used. Gl with your build and only upgrade when u feel that its a good time for you to do it, no reason to get new ultra performant tech if you must do hardcore economy for it.
To add to it, do some research about how to benchmark a GPU to make sure its good and things you should look for when buying SH, going for good refurbished cards could be the best as well rather than an individual seller, look for ratings as well please and don't rush the process, for any pc is a month of research and looking for good deals but just a very small amount of time of building.
I am getting an 1800$ pc buid ( intel + nvdia) tomorrow for content creatoin. but seeing that AMD offers better hardware for cheaper prices is giving me second thoughts. and now I'm lost again lol
what is your build? something like a 13700K/14700K+4080 SUPER/7900XTX is great for content creation imo. You can alternatively get a 7900X3D, but in general its similar(or sometimes lower performance than a 13700K) while costing more. If you are going top end, best option is 7950X3D + 4080 SUPER/7900XTX for content creation, unless you are willing to run the 14900K at non-baseline profile, which does give better results due to QuickSync.
@@auritro3903 this is my build Intel i7 14th K Zotac 4060ti 16gb ASRock z790 lightning WiFi motherboard DDR5 32 GB RAM Nvme 2 TB 7000mb/s 750w gold efficiency power supply Not sure maybe if I should just switch the graphics card with an AMD and keep the intel CPU Btw : i use davinci resolve
@nxrfme2623 u should go with B650M Mortar CPU: Ryzen 5 7600(x) GPU: Rtx 4070 Ti or super depend on prices avoid Asus products Look for tier A or tier B PSU and u good buddy The rest is your choice ✨
@@nxrfme2623 That's unbalanced. You should have bought a 7800X3D which doesn't require an AiO for cooling and it destroys the 14700K in gaming while still being a good CPU in professional tasks. For 1800$ you should at least be able to get a 7900XT/4070ti super. That PC for 1800$ has low value components.
Hello, I saw you mentioned just 750W gold power supply, please do check the PSU tier list and see in what tier is your power supply and since you're already spending quite some money make sure you get an A ranking PSU for best security (Personally I'd recommend Corsair RM850E which is A tier in there and costs around 120$ or so) Switching to AMD might benefit as intel 14th proved rather unstable with the default mobo settings (this can also impact performance as they were drawing so much power they were wearing themselves out to have better numbers in benchmarks, with normal power they might have less performance than usually presented in clips, AMD is more stable rn) This would save you a lot of money since you could also switch to a good AMD AM5 motherboard which is usually cheaper than intel LGA 1700
@@Terranovara I have had no issues with my 7900 XT running davinchi! I first had it paired with a 5800x cpu and 32g of system ram. Had some issues and delays from time to time. But that was my bottleneck if anything. I am now running: Ryzen 7900x3d cpu, 64gb 6000mhz system ram, and a MSI Radeon 7900XT gpu. Honestly, from my old setup to my new set up, it is night and day! My 7900XT actually works its processor off now and is almost flawless in Davinci.
@@Terranovara I also play Star Citizen on High everything in 4k native 50-60fps in Cities and over 100-150fps in space. That may not mean much to you, but if you know you know.
@@Trampus10-4 ok thank you very much. I read a lot about the gpu and many say davinchi randomly crashes with that amd card but if what you say is true then I think I will get it
Pugetsystems just public their benmark for DR 1.0.0, with nvidia is supperior in fusion but the amd is quite good for gpu effect, very contrary with your. Honestly i don't know who to trust right now😂😂😂
Would've loved to see some playbacks, fusion template playbacks, noise reductions, magic mask tests etc.
Why are you always looking only at the highest cards. You cant say AMD or NVIDIA is better in this category because their highend card performs the best there that says nothing about the mid/lower range. Less than 5% will be able to afford the best of the best. What is way more interesting is looking at which cards perform the best for their price. Also whenever you say „the more expensive“ or „cheaper“ card please include prices. This statement is meaningless for people who don’t have every card and their price memorized.
He has RX 7600, 2060 and 3050 GPUs benchmarked?
Not the best deals in the world, or oldest GPUs but still.
@@FireFalcon I am thankful for his benchmarks, but how he is analyzing the results is pretty bad imo. For the reasons I mentioned
@@skapeedits Yeah of course, and there is only so much human time that can be put into those reviews. On the issue with price I agree it probably should have been included, but once this video becomes multiple gens or years older it wont matter as much
@@FireFalconyeah but if he is calling the video „deep analysis“ than I’m expecting more. If he doesent wants to put time in his videos he should have just posted the table.
I found it pretty well done. Depending on the prices in your region, you make a choice. For me the 7700xt is under 380$ resealed which is a no brainer considering it's better in every test appart from gpu effects compared to a rtx 4070 lets say, which is now about 500$, albeit with 40-45w less consumption.
I really like this channel since they are the only one covering productivity performances and not gaming. Hoping that they can cover 3d rendering performances as well like in Vray or Lumion.
Have a look at my 'I tested all GPUs for creators' video :)
Please make a comparison of rtx 3060 , rtx 4060 and rx 7600 for creators
faster render is useless if timeline playback is choppy and slow, why reviewer always comparing specs rather than usability
I think it was MrAlexTech, who mentioned that DaVinci Resolve 19 beta, has hardware GPU support, on the timeline and for output rendering.
Only the more advanced features are only still supported in the Studio version, like tracking etc.
That is nothing new!
You need to look way more precize into that.
The iGPU on Intel doesn H264/5 accelaration since years, depending on the codec.
Apple´s SOCs as well and my MBA M1 16GB is wayyy faster than my Intel 13600k overclocked 32GB, only iGPU. So in terms of bang for bug M1 are hard to beat. Or they aren´t actually.
Though one has to live with the shitty OS:
@@derJackistweg I don't know about the Apple ecosystem, but on Windows, the difference between the free and paid version of Resolve, is the GPU hardware support. You simply can't export a h.265 video with hardware acceleration.
As for whether a CPU can be concidered a GPU, the answer is no. Having an iGPU doesn't change that. It's still a CPU.
So when I write GPU, anyone will know what I mean.
@@akyhne My experience was, @the time, on the free version on both systems.
More importantly the timelime performance, so editing.
@@derJackistweg I worked with M1 Max 32GB system like a 3 month its faster if u only cut and export h264 etc. But when u start to use GPU effects like 3rd party plugins for titles logo reveals etc. or magic mask built in resolve. M1 Max struggle to live render in timeline but my i7-11700 & RTX 3080 32GB Ram system is perfectly works.
@@MehmetCanKaya35 Right.
I do only H265.
I've been waiting for this! I commented in one of your videos which focused more sbout gaming. Thank you a lot!
Wish the 7900 GRE was included in this. I'm really considering the 7900 GRE since ive seen it as low as $530usd.
I wanna see how much it compares in value to the 7900xt, 7800xt, and 4070ti super.
Thank you!
I’m curious if anyone in the comments had any experience with Artlist? I gotta admit I’m tired of hunting down songs, sound-bytes, and plugins and would like a simple buffet of all these things. I have some questions
I wish that you would start including how much time is saved when encoding either a 1hour or 30min video using h264/h265/av1 at 1080p/4k/8k to show performance between the video cards.
The 4k and 8k scores are encoding scores, so if you look at the % difference, then you can figure out the time saved respectively. But bare in mind that's a 'clean' timeline without effects, masks, colorgrade the more you have those the better the higher end GPUs do because they're better at GPU effects and have more VRAM, Hope this helps! :)
@@theTechNotice Ok, but does the % difference correlate to seconds or minutes?
@@dellasbaker5474that’s something I’ve always tried to understand. These numbers don’t seem to translate for me the amount of time difference between cards
YES upgrading to Studio is a massive jump. I used the free one until I learned the basics then I spent the money for the Studio version. I think you're the lone voice on the content creator side of PC hardware and I for one am glad you're here. Plus you validated a few things that I was using and doing so I feel better! 😄
I have A380 which I use for gaming streaming and 1080p basic editing, green screen, transitions, etc. works fine for me.
PS- I use DAVINCI
Cannot be cheap, but would have loved to see the 7900xt GRE here . Anyone with experience? It must be between 7800xt and 7900xt, but closer to the first or the second?
The 7900 GRE is heavily gimped - you'd have to compare specs with where the 7900 xt and 7800 xt are positioned in (puget systems) benchmarks? Personally, I wouldn't bother with that gimped card unless you need to because of price. I'd pick a nvidia card over it if possible, too.
@@danp2306 thanks for the answer. I don't play games and don't do 3d modelling so most of the Nvidia benefits are of no use to me. If I were interested in games or using blender I'd definitely go that way, but AMD seems a much better choice since I'm only interested in Davinci Resolve performance. The question remains: is the GRE closer to the 7900 xt or the 7800 xt. Currently in the UK it's like 50 pounds more for each step up (460, 510, 560) if you find a good deal, but what's the better overall deal?
@@a_ram Only $50 difference between the 7900 xt and 7900 GRE? I'd pick the 7900 XT then. I imagine that the 7900 GRE score/performance might between the 7900 xt and 7800 xt since it's closer to a 7900 xt in some areas and closer to the 7800 xt in others. In gaming, it's closer to the 7800 xt so resale value might reflect that - if you ever decide to sell at a later date.
long story short, put all 3 of them into a machine with an amd 7950x3d and a solid motherboard, nvidia to do the hard work, amd to smooth the video and intel to stream or for postproduction in general, also max out the ram, and put in the machine at least two 15TB u.2 drives
I upgraded my card from an rtx 3070ti to a AMD Radeon 7900 XTX. Absolutely massive. Sure it is more expensive 900 bucks vs 700 for the rtx back at the time. But multiple times faster. The 8gb vram was a massive bottleneck that didnt allow me to multi task. I often need to record additional clips while editing. Which meant I had to constantly open and close obs, the game, and davinci back and forth. Now I can just have all 3 run side by side with no issues. The NV1 encoding at 4k looks really good. I still need to find the sweetspot. I just put it on 10 in obs which creates huge files. But sure it looks like butter I can say so much.
I noticed that when I record that there is a different color profile or something. I havent looked into it. But it just so happened that it looks perfect. Giving me the right amount of contrast and colors that I had to tweak manually in the past with the Nvidia Experience overlay. So I am not complaining. The timeline performance is much much better than anything the could the RTX3070 could put up giving me smooth 60fps unless they are uncached heavy fusion effects. Transitions for the most work smoothly. Rendering is multiple times faster. One very big project kept just crashing on my rtx. Needed 3 or 4 attempts to render it and took 4h to complete. The XTX breezed through in 45 minutes. First try. Best upgrade I ever had.
So you don't have any crashing issues or bugs while editing? I'm considering the 7900xtx but I'm worried about compatability with davinci. Also which brand 7900xtx do you have?
@BJMolette I do have the TUF variant. With Davinci I haven't faced big issues. Definitely not more than Nvidia. However the NV1 encoder crashes within OBS. As I do record from the game and drop clips directly to Davinci. So I switched back to h.265 and this works without a hitch. Maybe it is a OBS problem as davicinci itself encodes in av1 too when I export clips and that one doesn't cause issues.
Thanks for the vid! I am building a sub PC for ONLY rendering 8k main 10 h265 vids in davinci. Sometimes I will add both Temporal & Spatial Noise reduction for lowlight scene. So 7900XT or 4070ti super which one you would recommend?
I'd say go for the 4070 Ti Super.
What would be better with I5 12400F ASRock 7600 steel legend or MSI ventus 2X RTX 3060 for graphics designing and 3D rendering and some casual gaming
Rtx performance is better in 3060 ,3060 have more vram, higher memory buswidth, more shaders and gaming without rtx is better in 7600 with low price and with low power consump
Would have loved to see a graph of score per dollar/euro/yen/onceofgold/kidney to see how they compare for the money spent
is it license compliant to use Davinci license alone without the hardware, it was purchased with?
What card would be appropriate if I use cap cut but want to move to davinci resolve? I watched the video but I'm still undecided. I will be doing promotional short videos for businesses like restaurants or party rentals etc etc and some color correction on photos.
Im choosing to build a pc with the i7 12700k.
Awesome video! Did you did a comparison like this between Nivida and AMD for 3D? (Blender, C4D Redshift, Cinebench?) Thanks
Would you prefer an 3090 over the 4070 ti cause of the Vram?
Quite interesting. Always thought nvidia was the best for video editing. Looks like I'll go 7800xt with mini PC and egpu
For a single gpu, is there even a difference in performance with davinci? I know there are limits on formats etc. But performance? Curious for the answer! Maybe a free vs studio video would be cool 😊
im using (13600k+3060ti+uhd770); when i test with free vs studio (with few layers of video with blending mode , no effects) ;
studio give 38 times better results compare to free version(note free version not use gpu);
like (studio-93.5fps vs free version -2.5fps)
Great video, what mid-range motherboard would you recommend for a corei5 13600K processor, mainly for FHD and 4K video editing in DaVinci Resolve, GPU will be RTX 4070 SUPER Asus ProArt, thanks for the answer.
the msi z690 pro-A is great
@@Frozoken and how about the MSI MAG Z790 TOMAHAWK WIFI ?
@@pkflyfishing4803 A very good option too altho ofc a little higher pricing but at that point you can get the Pro z790 A Max WiFi that has much better memory support and an additional x1 pcie slot altho the tomohawk has better usb.
It's up to you which you'd benefit more from
@@pkflyfishing4803 Also a very good option altho the z790 pro a Max has better memory support and one more x1 pcie slot while the tomohawk has better usb
If you're not gonna overclock, I'd say try one of the cheaper B760 models. but to be safe, if you're gonna go with Z790 and won't need USB video output then get the Gigabyte Gaming X AX Z790 but if u do, try the one of MSI Mag ones.
The encoder quality is interesting. Thing is the AMD encoder has improved in the last year or so. Before that it didn't use I-frames, if I remember correctly. It's been a while and a bout of brain damage since I worked with low level video encoding, so it might have been something else. But the result was a worse encoding result at a given bitrate. Even after that was fixed it's still not able to encode as well as Nvidia or Intel. So at the same visual quality AMD will require a higher bitrate and the resulting files will be significantly bigger.
An interesting thing with the ARC cards is that if you have a Intel CPU with integrated GPU it can work as a second encoder together with the ARC GPU improving performance by, I think it was either 30% or 70%. it's a while since I read about it so I can't remember which.
That's interesting. That's one thing ppl don't usually consider when considering/comparing gpus. So, a 4070 Ti Super may have less vram and be less effective in gaming but for video editing and DR, is it worth getting over a 7900 xtx for that reason? Puget Systems didn't analyze that topic. 🙂
Can you tell me wich AMD Driver you used in the Test? Got big Problems with AMD GPU at the Moment. Davinci is always crashing. ty!
The better tip to not have drivers problems is uninstalling your video drivers with DDU and then reinstall the chipset and GPU drivers with the official utility by your brand. This is a proper clean driver reinstall.
PD: sorry if my english is a bit bad, I did not use a traslator to write this message xd
@jackgreen05 thank you for the tip. But I had the problem with already using DDU and the AMD clean install tool. But I found out that it works with the AMD Pro Driver.
I just installed the A770 into my system and davinci studio says it can't render because there's no codec. How weird is that....
Maybe you got issues with the drivers? Try updating them. 770 should work perfectly in davinci.
Great tests and advice! Would it make sense to go with 2 Intel arc 770 gpu's? In de/encoding and FX or shader wise?
Depends on if you have the bandwidth.
@Tech Notice : What about Ryzen 7000 with Arc ? Theoretically, it feels like best of both worlds. Any opinions?
yeah arc does work well. It is worth noting it does work slightly well with an intel CPU for content creation, but you wont see much of a difference while choosing ryzen 7000 instead
Really loving the powercolor red devil 6950xt. Will also keep you warm in winter when running games.
one question: i have to do only color correction: which is the best buy option ?
I love this review and haven't seen the rest of the comments below, my only wish being you testing it with say the RX 6000 series like the RX 6750XT 12Gb or the 6800XT and its 16GB of VRAM
Which cpu & gpu combinations do you recommend for davinci resolve?
direct correlation to how much $$$ you're willing to spend.
@theTechNotice
Hi Tech Notice,
I have watched your videos several times, over and over again, but I still can't seem to figure it out so plix halp.
I am about to build a new rig soon and video creation will be primary focus with gaming as secondary.
I learned from your videos that Intel CPUs have an iGPU and that it's really good for video editing.
I also learned that Nvidia 4000 series cards are good because they have AV1.
My question is: if I plan to get a 4060 or 4060ti and the plan is to use AV1 in DaVinci Resolve, do I still need Intel's iGPU? Because I think the iGPU only helps with H264 and H265 right? If I don't plan on using H265, then the intel iGPU will be useless, and then I dont have to get 14600k or 14700k, and I can just go Ryzen 7800X3D. It's so efficient and cool-running!
Is this correct? Or is Intel iGPU still important even if I plan to use Nvidia and AV1 in DaVinci Resolve?
Thanks!
wondering why the fusion score is so different. i get you can do stuff differently in fusion, but you can use many of the same effects and tools in fusion, no?
heyy , i guess "3D tittles in fusion" highly use cache or something where AMD gpus perform well ; can you pls test only 3d tittles with few gpus and find why its happen; (like using few 3d tittles in resolve>encode>note time/fps)
Please make comparison amd Radeon 7900 XT phantom gaming (don't which black or white) vs nvidia 3090 ti 🙏
Great and comprehensive video. I like the fact you are showing both types of chart as well which makes it really easy to compare the various scores. 👍👍👍
it might be bad to ask but what fusion refers to?
Hello, thanks for your video! Personally what would you get for competitive gaming + edition on Premiere / Da Vinci Resolve: The RX 7900 GRE or RTX 4070 Super?
That was my question as well, which one did you get?
@@_fiftyseven_ I just got the GRE and use Davinci. Rendering is quick and looks great, though I am having some stuttering when editing and playing around on the timeline. Not sure if it is gpu related or not. Still doing some troubleshooting.
@@themaddgamer That's nice to know man. Unfortunately, where I live all the 7900 GREs are out of stock so I am limited to 4070 Super only. Keep me updated tho, on your experience with 7900 GRE.
@@_fiftyseven_ So after playing around with some settings and codecs. It seems that the GRE doesn't like the H.265 in Davinci. Recording in H.264 makes things much much smoother.
@@themaddgamer I see. So it seems to me that the 4070 Super is the better choice for this specific task. Thanks for the info, will help in my purchasing decision.
Any reason why you are only comparing gaming cards when talking about professional workflows? Wouldn't it be better to compare gaming and pro cards (QUADRO for example)?
Guys i need a new gpu i am thinking of Rtx 4060, Rx 6600 or Rx 7600 which one is better for editing and gaming ?
I see you tested the TUF 4080 super, which ended up pretty high on the testresults. I was eyeballing the ROG strix 4080 super oc edition. Would it be safe to assume it will outperform the TUF 4080 super?
Not outperform, same performance :)
@@theTechNotice Thanks!
@@theTechNotice One more question. The proart also peaked my interest if i wouldn't go for an all white build. Since it's also a 4080 super would it perform equally as well than? am I grasping the concept? :P It would save quite some bucks over the rog strix version.
@@hallmountfilms I would say performance differences among the same series is negligible - I would compare the other intangibles - cooler, noise, price etc.
I believe in Resolve for Mac (Free) it does use the GPU for encoding H.265/H.264. Can someone confirm this?
In my M1 Mac, it does, but it's not the fastest
I Have an 8700K, RTX 2070Super and 32GB of ram and my standard overall score is about 1000. You are getting more than double with an RTX 2060Super. Am I severely CPU bottlenecked?
Maybe that's the reason because you have an old CPU
I wish you had a rtx 2000 ADA to run tests on, seeing how they have 16gb, but are more affordable than the 4070 ti super.
hey,.
why 4090 perform well in 4k,8k,and effects ,but not in fusion?
last oct i did some test (13600k+3060ti) with this,.
mostly, 4k have 6test which some bottleneck cpu some bottleneck 3d engine and some bottleneck encode&decode engine;
and effects have 8 test which always bottleneck 3d engine;
but fusion not bottlenecked by cpu/gpu/3d/encoders/decoders ;; (AFAIK it maybe bottleneck by other factors which reduce 4090 score huge)
I will buy 2070s used for 120 bucks
Is it better than 2060s at list for davinci?
Where's will be at this list?
should I get 7900XT Ultra or 4070 super i manly edit using Sony Fx3,30,and fx6 codecs? (the xt is 125$ dollar more)
wait rx 7900 xt has ultra version?
You're insane. 4070?A gtx 3060 ti will suffice
Why dont GPUs have VRAM slots?????
Coz the VRAM is much faster than our RAM sticks :)
But regardless, give us the fast RAM sticks then :)
Excellent video!!! Totally what I need. Thanks :))
Just what I'm looking for. Thanks!
Why are old server GPUs with 24+ Ram, slower than modern GPUs with less Ram?
Server GPU's are generally lower wattage and thus run slower frequencies. They also tend to have ECC memory, or at least old versions did. That also slows down the performance a little. Those are my general guesses. Well there's also the GPU they use. Older versions are generally slower for most things.
RTX 2060 Superr???
Why no one talks about 3d blender UR5
Grafic illustrations and benchmarks don't tell us notching about compatybility witch programs for movie edititing. Users complains that Da Vinci Resolve have issues with AMD graphic cards. When you editing material progam can suden quit to Windows. Can you make a test of compatybility of those cards? Thank you.
Do you mean stability?
@@theTechNotice yes . Someone test AMD setup with XT 7900 and after few days he return grafic card AMD and change IT for NVIDIA.
But what about the 6800xt taichi? Too old? but its faster better than the 7800xt, so can we assume has better numbers rated on the charts¡???
Quick Question. Where is 4080 ProArt in this ?
Imho, I would bet the score would be between 2500 and 2600 (in that list).
What is best for $500 to $800?
Why not have the 3080ti in the benchmarks 😢😢
Check the puget systems website for a benchmark that included the 3080 Ti? It used ver. 0.93.1 but with an older ver. of Davinci Resolve (18.0.3) - score was 2263 so I would guess current performance score would be close to the 4070.
I wish I had of seen this video last year in August before I bought the ASUS rtx 4090 tuf. I would have saved a lot of money.
Thank you Lauri.
guys are Photoshop and ilstrutor use the gpu
You didn't talk about amd GPU crashing your PC in the middle of video editing
the amd is crashing?
Should include m3
Please don't laugh. I'm still running an i4790, what would be the best graphics card for it? Meaning no high end graphics card that will surely cause a bottleneck. Thanks.
Hello, there is no reason to laugh about it, any CPU you can afford or already had is good don't be ashamed of it
For this CPU you could try gtx 1060 which has 5 GB VRAM or RX 580 which has 8, its a matter of preference as I do not know tho which one performs better in editing, nvidia has better technology to say so but the RX gives u much better raw specs, I cannot tell you exactly which to pick but the RX 580 seems a bit safer and can be easily found used. Gl with your build and only upgrade when u feel that its a good time for you to do it, no reason to get new ultra performant tech if you must do hardcore economy for it.
To add to it, do some research about how to benchmark a GPU to make sure its good and things you should look for when buying SH, going for good refurbished cards could be the best as well rather than an individual seller, look for ratings as well please and don't rush the process, for any pc is a month of research and looking for good deals but just a very small amount of time of building.
@@seppuku6667 Thank you so much for the suggestions and tips, I really appreciate it 👍
Depends on your budget tbh, but for sure if you want budget then a GTX 1650 it is or a used RX 6600
@@Eleganttf2 Thanks!
Thanks
I am getting an 1800$ pc buid ( intel + nvdia) tomorrow for content creatoin. but seeing that AMD offers better hardware for cheaper prices is giving me second thoughts. and now I'm lost again lol
what is your build?
something like a 13700K/14700K+4080 SUPER/7900XTX is great for content creation imo. You can alternatively get a 7900X3D, but in general its similar(or sometimes lower performance than a 13700K) while costing more. If you are going top end, best option is 7950X3D + 4080 SUPER/7900XTX for content creation, unless you are willing to run the 14900K at non-baseline profile, which does give better results due to QuickSync.
@@auritro3903 this is my build
Intel i7 14th K
Zotac 4060ti 16gb
ASRock z790 lightning WiFi motherboard
DDR5 32 GB RAM
Nvme 2 TB 7000mb/s
750w gold efficiency power supply
Not sure maybe if I should just switch the graphics card with an AMD and keep the intel CPU
Btw : i use davinci resolve
@nxrfme2623 u should go with B650M Mortar
CPU: Ryzen 5 7600(x)
GPU: Rtx 4070 Ti or super depend on prices avoid Asus products
Look for tier A or tier B PSU and u good buddy
The rest is your choice ✨
@@nxrfme2623 That's unbalanced. You should have bought a 7800X3D which doesn't require an AiO for cooling and it destroys the 14700K in gaming while still being a good CPU in professional tasks. For 1800$ you should at least be able to get a 7900XT/4070ti super. That PC for 1800$ has low value components.
Hello, I saw you mentioned just 750W gold power supply, please do check the PSU tier list and see in what tier is your power supply and since you're already spending quite some money make sure you get an A ranking PSU for best security (Personally I'd recommend Corsair RM850E which is A tier in there and costs around 120$ or so)
Switching to AMD might benefit as intel 14th proved rather unstable with the default mobo settings (this can also impact performance as they were drawing so much power they were wearing themselves out to have better numbers in benchmarks, with normal power they might have less performance than usually presented in clips, AMD is more stable rn)
This would save you a lot of money since you could also switch to a good AMD AM5 motherboard which is usually cheaper than intel LGA 1700
Loving my 7900 xt even more.
👍
DO you use davinchi? is the 7900 xt fast more importantly does it lag when you cut things and use fusion. I want to get it over the 4070 super
@@Terranovara I have had no issues with my 7900 XT running davinchi! I first had it paired with a 5800x cpu and 32g of system ram. Had some issues and delays from time to time. But that was my bottleneck if anything.
I am now running: Ryzen 7900x3d cpu, 64gb 6000mhz system ram, and a MSI Radeon 7900XT gpu.
Honestly, from my old setup to my new set up, it is night and day! My 7900XT actually works its processor off now and is almost flawless in Davinci.
@@Terranovara I also play Star Citizen on High everything in 4k native 50-60fps in Cities and over 100-150fps in space. That may not mean much to you, but if you know you know.
@@Trampus10-4 ok thank you very much. I read a lot about the gpu and many say davinchi randomly crashes with that amd card but if what you say is true then I think I will get it
Pugetsystems just public their benmark for DR 1.0.0, with nvidia is supperior in fusion but the amd is quite good for gpu effect, very contrary with your. Honestly i don't know who to trust right now😂😂😂
incdredible
Wow
Asus tuf is bad coil whine
As a 2060 Super owner am surprised how well it performs being so called Garbage RTX 😏😏