nearly a trillion dollars JSP of pure state of the art design and technology that no other country can copy or recreate it perfectly. We should thank the British because they were the first to introduce VTOL technologies. A stealth fighter with vertical takeoff and landing. Just imagine how they integrated two unique technologies into a single aircraft.
Truly in awe the RAAF now has all the capabilities the F-35 brings to our nation. Happy 100th Birthday RAAF - thankyou and best wishes and great respect to one and all of you!
Computer pretending to be an aeroplane 😂. Waited at coffee shop at Fighter World In miserable cold & rainy conditions for hours just to see our new F-35’s. Crickey what an aircraft🤤. Thanks for sharing 👍🏻👍🏻🙃🙃
There really isn't much to occupy a top 10 list to begin with, and anyway, even in its current iteration the F-35A is leagues better than anything else we have.
Even if your view about WW2 is that its in the dim dark past (which speaks volumes if that is the case with the RAAF) and you chose a jet. Can someone explain to me how the F35 is more iconic than the Mirage III? Mach 2 fighter,......delta wing and one of the most beautiful and sleek jets to ever serve anywhere?? I'm genuinely flabbergasted!
Cant agree more.. though, my father worked on the mirage, and i grew up around them, williamtown and butterworth. If we use the term iconic as the ones most people remember, or feel things about, the f-111 will be more so, though i do have more mirage models than F-111's super hard to split them, i just think that public opinion will win over.. though this list has surprised me before..Cheers
Great selection from an old school PAF. Have followed the development of this awesome aircraft and yes I know that there are lots of other aircraft who would qualify to be listed but this aircraft is going to be our mainstay for a long time and most of our selections were a bit rough on the edges but turned out to be the Top Dogs on the block in the hands of our aircrew and maintenance professionals stay safe all thanks for the F-35
Love the f-35, was great at Avalon. my pick for #1 can only be F-111. Big seemingly lumbering, but seriously fast, seriously capable, still hurting over its untimely demise..Great series this.. cheers
The raaf pilots these days get it easy when I flew we never had computers telling us what to do u got in buckled up and prayed that you came back in one piece!!!! They were the days when you got into a plane and flew by controlling it & not by a computer telling you what to do!!! Ok flight experience winjeel machhi 326 sabre - ca27 then mirage 3 out of Williamtown nsw !!! Thank you!!!
Also the Beaufighter, the Mosquito, the Phantom... The last one might not have been with the RAAF for long but it was a huge step up, prior to the arrival of the F-111. I would have put all of those ahead of the Lancaster.
It has been in development and has been known about for 20+ years it’s fair to say it’s gained an iconic status given how well known it is, how capable it is and how long it’s been around, even if we on started training/flying our RAAF F-35’s within the last 5-8 years.
@@PL4GU3d I guess what I’m asking you is, what is your definition of iconic? Yes it’s been in development for ages, yes it’s recognized, although not as widely recognized outside aviation fandom as for instance the Tomcat due to the obvious movie. The F111 was almost unique to the RAAF and at one point WAS unique to the RAAF, and as such I would definitely consider the F111 iconic, we deployed hornets to war zones and flew they for ages, as did we with mirages, but I don’t believe the F35 has done anything yet to earn the title of an iconic RAAF plane. It’s still relatively new, unblooded so to speak, far from unique to our country, is it really already iconic of RAAF operations. In terms of plane type, I would say the VTOL f-35 is more iconic.
@@doemacmonkey . It's not really a VTOL is it. It cannot transition from a vertical take off to forward flight. It can land vertically, so it actually is a STOVL
@@MartintheTinman really? I thought it could but they generally just did rolling take offs because the weapons load could be larger - I’ll have to check that... Edit: no it definitely can take off vertically and transition to forward flight, just as it can abort a vertical landing and return to forward flight if needed. There are videos on YT of it doing so.
Yeah,..I dont understand this decision? It certainly isn't iconic,...it barely has done anything yet. Only 30odd are in Australia and its barely made to a restricted IOC. You have picked an aircraft that has served for 5 minutes in the past 100 years! I hope the RAAF didn't choose this as a prop for a controversial aircraft. I assume the F111 will be number one. So aircraft like the Spitfire and the P40 miss out. Two aircraft that defended Australia and bore the brunt of fighting in the Pacific. Not to mention the RAAF SQN's such as 3 SQN in the Med that fought with all the MKs of the P40. Also Clive Caldwell, Australia's most prolific Fighter Pilot of WW2 flew both the Spit and P40 and became an ACE in both,...the only man to do so in two theaters. The Mirage III misses out, our first Mach 2 fighter. The Canberra Bomber misses out. Served in both Malaya and Vietnam without a break. The longest serving Bomber SQN on operations globally from the end of WW2 to the commencement on the War on Terror. Bobby Gibbes, Clive Caldwell, "woof" Arthur, the Jackson brothers, Lou Spence, Dick Cresswell,.....iconic names in the RAAF who flew truly iconic aircarft. All have been ignored for the sake of a glossy promotional moment for an aircraft that barely is in service. Terrible decision and in my view is defeats the point of remembering the past 100 years of the Royal Australian Air Force. You have picked an aircraft from the next 100 years. Its glossy advertising for the F35 , which is a bit of a disgrace. What is the RAAF's definition of iconic and history??
@@doemacmonkey Completely agree. Just a really odd decision. The F35 is the future,..not the past 100 years. I'm convinced good sense has been taken over with a cheap opportunity to promote the F35. Sadly, in my view it suggests volumes on how the modern RAAF revere the past 100 years.
i could add the beaufighter to your list. remember though ,this is a list of ten out of over 100 aircraft types flown by the RAAF over the years, its not a history lesson, though i have learnt things, my fathers sqdn was 77 so i know of Dick cresswell and the p-40's, maybe we will get another list of "Planes of Importance", I Pontificated about the term iconic on a nother post here so i wont go on again. but i agree th canberrs deserves mention
@@andrewpuckridge7633 Certainly the Beaufighter could certainly be on the list. Completely agree. The thing about the P40 is Australian pilots shot down more aircraft flying the type than any other aircraft. 3 SQN flew the P40 in its various MK's throughout the war. North Africa, Italy, Port Moresby, Milne Bay just to name a few where the type is synonymous. All the great leaders of the war, earn't their name flying P40s. Bobby Gibbes, Wilfred "Woof' Arthur, Caldwell etc etc. These men were the great leaders in the SW Pacific,...some Commanding P40 SQN's and Wings. What is more iconic RAAF than that?? I understand the argument regarding history vs the iconic. But surely,...an example like the P40 would fit those boxes better than most other RAAF aircraft??
We all know that we're going to go ahead as planned and make it an even 100, so let's place the order for 28 F 35B's and get the necessary conversions underway on the Canberra class LHD's. We need to if we want to keep China at bay.
Conversion of the LHDs would decrease the ability of the ADF to conduct amphibious operations so a third ship would have to be acquired in order to preserve the capability. Since the ADF believe that Amphibious capability is more important than carrier capability. Personally, if the intention was to add a carrier capability, one or two new ships would need to be added to the fleet, and in turn another two or three AWD and it would be better to carry a mix of manned and unmanned fighters (think F-35Bs and navalised Loyal Wingmen) plus helicopters
@@mike9347 satellite guided isn’t particularly encouraging since satellites are easily jammed. Now you can add in more guidance systems but that increases weight which means you need a bigger engine and in turn the missile becomes bigger and more complex. So a swarm of hypersonic weapons can be countered by EW or they can’t be but because they can’t be countered they are too large and too expensive to have very many of and can be defeated by ships. When torpedoes were first invented it was believed that they would make the battleship obsolete but they did not and the doctrine of swarms of small ships armed with torpedoes was proved flawed in the early 20th century and large capital ships endured then as they will continue to now, because they project force. Missiles do not project force they can at best deny areas. It’s not just light infantry that are landed but also their accompanying armoured vehicles and would receive fire support from AirPower and warships. So in such a realistic world, yes of course the Infantry can take and hold a beachhead because the only time they would do so is with sufficient support
@@mike9347 well I’m sorry that got deleted Mike cause I am interested in what you would have said. In a peer on peer conflict ADF is pitiful but I think that what the LHDs really represent is the ability for us to add on to an American task force, while giving us the flexibility to conduct smaller operations ourselves or use them for humanitarian missions. Whilst I wouldn’t call the ADF a joke it’s probably a third or a quarter of what it would need to be to really stand on its own. Which is unfortunate but it would cost too much and be difficult to get manpower and other resources more than anything. Defence is really as much an economic problem as a military one. So while the ADF may not be enough it definitely is something and in a prolonged war I can easily see it being crafted in something much larger and more capable.
@@mike9347 Good to know you're ex navy, but clearly you don't know shit about the Army. I'm current Army and have been for the past 17 years and our Army is definitely not light, we are COMPLETELY getting rid of any facet that could be called light, currently with the Aslav's, M113AS4's and the Bushmaster's. Now in the VERY near future with the addition of the MAN trucks, Hawkei, boxer, Redback/Lynx, additional Abrams tanks and K9 self propelled guns, it's basically Oprah screaming YOU GET A VEHICLE, YOU GET A VEHICLE, EVERYBODY GETS A VEHICLE.
G’day, I just purchased a RAAF F-35A LIGHTNING II die cast model and doing an UNBOXING video, may I ask your permission to use some of your footage of our country’s F-35 to use in my UNBOXING VIDEO. It would be great to see the plane in flight. I hope you can positively respond to my request. Cheers mate.
Lockheed Martin: Congratulations. We be sure to add discounts for you. US: We need another squadron of F35Bs. Lockheed Martin: Sorry sir, the queue is full. Please wait for another time.
Interesting it's being called the lightning 2 when in 2019 any posters that had been printed with lightning 2 had to be thrown away and replaced with the ones printed JSF.
RAAF F-35 will training with Malaysian SU-30 MKM soon also TUDM FA-18D Hornet,they said best Aircraft for best pilot but the best pilot always the best...Greetings from Malaysia.
How many F-35A's are in squadron service with the RAAF at time of writing? Are any of them based in the far north, where they will be needed if they're needed at all? What's its real payload and range, under stealth? How much has it cost to upgrade bases in the north of Australia to provide the enormously elaborate facilities it requires? What are its actual availability and sortie rate figures, in RAAF service? It's on the answers to those questions and others about its real deployability and serviceability that its real value to Australia depends. It's not good enough to trot out a pilot or two to say how gosh-wow it is, if everything goes right. Far more important is how often does something go wrong? And how quickly is it fixed when it does?
if something goes wrong we'd find out through footage of a large fireball on the news. The answers to most of your questions are reasonably classified as of the moment.
@@devonlord99 Unfortunately, no. If anything is wrong with this aircraft's programming, its systems prevent operation. To put it simply, it doesn't start. There's no such thing as a workaround. That's what "fully integrated systems" means. It's down, until corrected, or if it's a hardware problem, until parts come through, which at present can take weeks. Any glitch at all does that. That's one reason for its wretched availability numbers, as reported by other air forces. Another is false positives. Its average availability for all missions is still below 60%, and the latest numbers I can find on its sortie rate is .4 a day - three a week.
@@jamesbeach5445 I would argue that australia hasnt had a true fighter plane since the CAC Sabre. the Mirage , though it could fight had such limited range its more of an interceptor, the f-111 was a ground attack \bomber, f-18 and f-35 (again can fight, and fight well, but are multirole) unlike , the f-15 or f-22 are true fighters. that said, i really think the f-35 is a great thing for us
@@andrewpuckridge7633 well wheb people think offast jrts they dont say multiroleplanes or ground strikeplabes they say fighterplanes ........ no need to be hoity toity
@@jamesbeach5445 Yeah i know, but there are pedants out there, and i thought a reasoned point of view was better than others who would just resort to name calling :) But i come from an airforce point of view (not actually serving i might add - child of a mirage\f-111 maintenance fitter) and the definition is important to some types .. cheers
We need a long range bomber fleet to replace the F111.24-36 Raider bombers at a billion each is very cheap compared to that lemon Sub deal.Just one B-21 would sink a fleet at very long range.
yeah the F35 has the edge alright, it has the edge on exhausting the Australian budget in a real-time war scenario not too mention reconnaissance missions from air patrolling.
75 F35’s isn’t enough for the security of Australia. We need to double that, at least. 3 bases should we built . One in Northern WA QLD and NT. We cannot rely on the USA, so independence we must commit. Unstable areas in our region is growing ... rapidly
We couldn't defend Australia alone regardless, we don't have the budget to compete in numbers, and we have more allies than just the US. Besides, any actual invasion of Australia would be useless and a waste of resources.
The F35 hasn't earned its place on this list. I can think of three aircraft that deserve to be the top 10 based on their service over the 100 year history and there is only one position to go. Personally, I'd put the CT4 above the F35 given that as the ab initio trainer for over 40 years (including its service at the ADF Basic Flying Training School) it has probably been flown by more RAAF pilots than any other aircraft.
I was right. All this to promote this piece of shot. It’s was clear from the beginning, How the hell this mistake is iconic ? It wasn’t in service even 5 years. Oh yes I forgot, money.
Look we understand the F-35 is the new toy but an Icon? Please. The Spitfire, Kittyhawk, Beaufighter all fought, Australians died in our own and foreign lands flying them are not? Even the Mirage which served as our front line fighter defende gets passed over for an aircraft still not fully capable. Very poor choice. I mean the Spitfire which defended Darwin... Seriously..
Excuse me........f 35 iconic...Thats just dumb...thats just a flying fat van.Lets be honest..Second place as most iconic could be the spitfire or something else......my god..this shit is just propagandaaa........
Maybe you should tell the Australian public that it cost $800k for a helmet for this. Maybe you should tell the public that it's not really stealth. Maybe you should tell the public how maintenance heavy this F35 is. Even the Americans don't like this fighter jet and are considereding a replacement.
So it sounds like, F35 is designed for stealth (stealth over its own territory?), short range combat (USA's B variant is degisned to work with its navy fleets) what are our A variants for? And collective combat network (so, in other words we have to spend a lot of $$$ and send a lot of it out in order to receive the benefits?). It's almost like Aus is propping up US defence contracts, just like how it scrapped the very capable French sub deal just to re-align with US's naval capability. Peer pressure is one hell of a drug. Poor tax payers.
The F-35 is an absolute joke and has failed at every step of the way. Not to mention it's about 15 years late! It's a great example of how not to design an aircraft. A lesson that should have been learnt back with the developement of the F-111.
The F35 is an incredible collection of engineering challanges and advancements. Truly awe inspiring!
It's an incredible collection of horse shit.
nearly a trillion dollars JSP of pure state of the art design and technology that no other country can copy or recreate it perfectly. We should thank the British because they were the first to introduce VTOL technologies.
A stealth fighter with vertical takeoff and landing. Just imagine how they integrated two unique technologies into a single aircraft.
Truly in awe the RAAF now has all the capabilities the F-35 brings to our nation. Happy 100th Birthday RAAF - thankyou and best wishes and great respect to one and all of you!
Computer pretending to be an aeroplane 😂. Waited at coffee shop at Fighter World In miserable cold & rainy conditions for hours just to see our new F-35’s. Crickey what an aircraft🤤.
Thanks for sharing
👍🏻👍🏻🙃🙃
Its definitely one of the greatest aircraft's ever created, despite all the flash back from social media
Imagine if social media was around for the F-16’s early development.
@@UnforgivingDemon it would have been even worse
@@mat55336 Yep
@@UnforgivingDemon or the early years of the F-111 , that was an absolute mess!
"aircraft's" 🤣😂🤣😂
Respect to our Nation's Defence Force.👍
I seen you fly over newcastle on that day in 2018 ,i actually filmed it flying straight over carrington . I knew they were 2 brand new F35s !
This has to mean that the Pig is top of the pops. (it is anyway, but for this list)
F111 better be no. 1, yes this is a big new jet, but hasn't really earned a spot in this list. Its to new, many others could of taken its place.
Yes, too new to be "iconic".
They're hoping it lives up to the hype but the future is unmanned
Doubting Thomas
Bring back f111
There really isn't much to occupy a top 10 list to begin with, and anyway, even in its current iteration the F-35A is leagues better than anything else we have.
Even if your view about WW2 is that its in the dim dark past (which speaks volumes if that is the case with the RAAF) and you chose a jet. Can someone explain to me how the F35 is more iconic than the Mirage III? Mach 2 fighter,......delta wing and one of the most beautiful and sleek jets to ever serve anywhere??
I'm genuinely flabbergasted!
Cant agree more.. though, my father worked on the mirage, and i grew up around them, williamtown and butterworth. If we use the term iconic as the ones most people remember, or feel things about, the f-111 will be more so, though i do have more mirage models than F-111's super hard to split them, i just think that public opinion will win over.. though this list has surprised me before..Cheers
Exactly
Truly, it hasn't proved itself yet.
A gorgeous aircraft, would be an honour to fly them one day!
hahahahahahaha you wont ride fat amy
I was there when it debuted back in 2017,what an aircraft,what a day it was!
Great selection from an old school PAF. Have followed the development of this awesome aircraft and yes I know that there are lots of other aircraft who would qualify to be listed but this aircraft is going to be our mainstay for a long time and most of our selections were a bit rough on the edges but turned out to be the Top Dogs on the block in the hands of our aircrew and maintenance professionals stay safe all thanks for the F-35
So incredibly proud! And can I say AWESOME!
Recently in my area we had a flyover of these craft and the sound of these is just amazing and terrifying.
Seen one at an air show, absolutely amazing
Love the f-35, was great at Avalon. my pick for #1 can only be F-111. Big seemingly lumbering, but seriously fast, seriously capable, still hurting over its untimely demise..Great series this.. cheers
No Mirage in top 10?...that's sad
The raaf pilots these days get it easy when I flew we never had computers telling us what to do u got in buckled up and prayed that you came back in one piece!!!! They were the days when you got into a plane and flew by controlling it & not by a computer telling you what to do!!! Ok flight experience winjeel machhi 326 sabre - ca27 then mirage 3 out of Williamtown nsw !!! Thank you!!!
Your a real Fighter pilot mate!
All that effort only to be outperformed by a computer with wings and a jet engine. Oldheads lol
A remarkable aircraft 🤩👍
Wonderful ❤
Wonderful ❤❤❤
Really looking forward to seeing one in person at Amberley Air Tattoo this year.
Had an F35 fly right overhead at Avalon this year, what a weapon 😍
Very nice mate from Cambodia
When will you include 1:The Mirage 2: The Sabre: 3: The Canberra : The Gloucester Meteor
Also the Beaufighter, the Mosquito, the Phantom...
The last one might not have been with the RAAF for long but it was a huge step up, prior to the arrival of the F-111.
I would have put all of those ahead of the Lancaster.
Saw one of them today, beautiful jet, good choice australia!
What an absolute beauty of an aircraft. Bless Australia.
No number 1 will be the F-111 then?
Spitfire?
@@ollie2sik also a worthy candidate
Those planes are LOUD!!!!
We love ❤️ Australia 🇦🇺
Which raises the questtion what's after it? There are very few gen 5 aicraft actually flying and countries are now developing gen 6.
GO YOU GOOD THINGS
Seems a bit of a copout to name an aircraft that only reached IOC a few months ago, no matter how revolutionary.
A great aircraft to be sure, but wouldn’t you say it’s a little early yet to declare it “iconic”?
It has been in development and has been known about for 20+ years it’s fair to say it’s gained an iconic status given how well known it is, how capable it is and how long it’s been around, even if we on started training/flying our RAAF F-35’s within the last 5-8 years.
@@PL4GU3d I guess what I’m asking you is, what is your definition of iconic? Yes it’s been in development for ages, yes it’s recognized, although not as widely recognized outside aviation fandom as for instance the Tomcat due to the obvious movie. The F111 was almost unique to the RAAF and at one point WAS unique to the RAAF, and as such I would definitely consider the F111 iconic, we deployed hornets to war zones and flew they for ages, as did we with mirages, but I don’t believe the F35 has done anything yet to earn the title of an iconic RAAF plane. It’s still relatively new, unblooded so to speak, far from unique to our country, is it really already iconic of RAAF operations. In terms of plane type, I would say the VTOL f-35 is more iconic.
@@doemacmonkey . It's not really a VTOL is it.
It cannot transition from a vertical take off to forward flight.
It can land vertically, so it actually is a STOVL
@@doemacmonkey maybe because it's the first stealth aircraft operated by RAAF
@@MartintheTinman really? I thought it could but they generally just did rolling take offs because the weapons load could be larger - I’ll have to check that...
Edit: no it definitely can take off vertically and transition to forward flight, just as it can abort a vertical landing and return to forward flight if needed. There are videos on YT of it doing so.
i'd love to join the airforce and fly one of those
Yeah,..I dont understand this decision?
It certainly isn't iconic,...it barely has done anything yet. Only 30odd are in Australia and its barely made to a restricted IOC. You have picked an aircraft that has served for 5 minutes in the past 100 years! I hope the RAAF didn't choose this as a prop for a controversial aircraft. I assume the F111 will be number one.
So aircraft like the Spitfire and the P40 miss out. Two aircraft that defended Australia and bore the brunt of fighting in the Pacific.
Not to mention the RAAF SQN's such as 3 SQN in the Med that fought with all the MKs of the P40. Also Clive Caldwell, Australia's most prolific Fighter Pilot of WW2 flew both the Spit and P40 and became an ACE in both,...the only man to do so in two theaters.
The Mirage III misses out, our first Mach 2 fighter. The Canberra Bomber misses out. Served in both Malaya and Vietnam without a break. The longest serving Bomber SQN on operations globally from the end of WW2 to the commencement on the War on Terror.
Bobby Gibbes, Clive Caldwell, "woof" Arthur, the Jackson brothers, Lou Spence, Dick Cresswell,.....iconic names in the RAAF who flew truly iconic aircarft. All have been ignored for the sake of a glossy promotional moment for an aircraft that barely is in service.
Terrible decision and in my view is defeats the point of remembering the past 100 years of the Royal Australian Air Force. You have picked an aircraft from the next 100 years.
Its glossy advertising for the F35 , which is a bit of a disgrace.
What is the RAAF's definition of iconic and history??
Yeah, I’ve no doubt it *will* be iconic, I just don’t think it is yet!
@@doemacmonkey Completely agree. Just a really odd decision. The F35 is the future,..not the past 100 years. I'm convinced good sense has been taken over with a cheap opportunity to promote the F35. Sadly, in my view it suggests volumes on how the modern RAAF revere the past 100 years.
i could add the beaufighter to your list. remember though ,this is a list of ten out of over 100 aircraft types flown by the RAAF over the years, its not a history lesson, though i have learnt things, my fathers sqdn was 77 so i know of Dick cresswell and the p-40's, maybe we will get another list of "Planes of Importance", I Pontificated about the term iconic on a nother post here so i wont go on again. but i agree th canberrs deserves mention
@@andrewpuckridge7633 Certainly the Beaufighter could certainly be on the list. Completely agree. The thing about the P40 is Australian pilots shot down more aircraft flying the type than any other aircraft. 3 SQN flew the P40 in its various MK's throughout the war. North Africa, Italy, Port Moresby, Milne Bay just to name a few where the type is synonymous. All the great leaders of the war, earn't their name flying P40s. Bobby Gibbes, Wilfred "Woof' Arthur, Caldwell etc etc. These men were the great leaders in the SW Pacific,...some Commanding P40 SQN's and Wings. What is more iconic RAAF than that??
I understand the argument regarding history vs the iconic. But surely,...an example like the P40 would fit those boxes better than most other RAAF aircraft??
Even the Airspeed Oxford is more iconic.
Could we have some more please.
hi australia
We all know that we're going to go ahead as planned and make it an even 100, so let's place the order for 28 F 35B's and get the necessary conversions underway on the Canberra class LHD's. We need to if we want to keep China at bay.
We cant afford it
Conversion of the LHDs would decrease the ability of the ADF to conduct amphibious operations so a third ship would have to be acquired in order to preserve the capability. Since the ADF believe that Amphibious capability is more important than carrier capability. Personally, if the intention was to add a carrier capability, one or two new ships would need to be added to the fleet, and in turn another two or three AWD and it would be better to carry a mix of manned and unmanned fighters (think F-35Bs and navalised Loyal Wingmen) plus helicopters
@@mike9347 satellite guided isn’t particularly encouraging since satellites are easily jammed. Now you can add in more guidance systems but that increases weight which means you need a bigger engine and in turn the missile becomes bigger and more complex. So a swarm of hypersonic weapons can be countered by EW or they can’t be but because they can’t be countered they are too large and too expensive to have very many of and can be defeated by ships.
When torpedoes were first invented it was believed that they would make the battleship obsolete but they did not and the doctrine of swarms of small ships armed with torpedoes was proved flawed in the early 20th century and large capital ships endured then as they will continue to now, because they project force. Missiles do not project force they can at best deny areas.
It’s not just light infantry that are landed but also their accompanying armoured vehicles and would receive fire support from AirPower and warships. So in such a realistic world, yes of course the Infantry can take and hold a beachhead because the only time they would do so is with sufficient support
@@mike9347 well I’m sorry that got deleted Mike cause I am interested in what you would have said. In a peer on peer conflict ADF is pitiful but I think that what the LHDs really represent is the ability for us to add on to an American task force, while giving us the flexibility to conduct smaller operations ourselves or use them for humanitarian missions.
Whilst I wouldn’t call the ADF a joke it’s probably a third or a quarter of what it would need to be to really stand on its own. Which is unfortunate but it would cost too much and be difficult to get manpower and other resources more than anything. Defence is really as much an economic problem as a military one.
So while the ADF may not be enough it definitely is something and in a prolonged war I can easily see it being crafted in something much larger and more capable.
@@mike9347 Good to know you're ex navy, but clearly you don't know shit about the Army. I'm current Army and have been for the past 17 years and our Army is definitely not light, we are COMPLETELY getting rid of any facet that could be called light, currently with the Aslav's, M113AS4's and the Bushmaster's. Now in the VERY near future with the addition of the MAN trucks, Hawkei, boxer, Redback/Lynx, additional Abrams tanks and K9 self propelled guns, it's basically Oprah screaming YOU GET A VEHICLE, YOU GET A VEHICLE, EVERYBODY GETS A VEHICLE.
Sounds like Peter Overton narrating
I would love to join the airforce and hopefully become a fast jet pilot but I’m only 14 I’m gonna study and work hard
G’day, I just purchased a RAAF F-35A LIGHTNING II die cast model and doing an UNBOXING video, may I ask your permission to use some of your footage of our country’s F-35 to use in my UNBOXING VIDEO. It would be great to see the plane in flight. I hope you can positively respond to my request. Cheers mate.
Lockheed Martin: Congratulations. We be sure to add discounts for you.
US: We need another squadron of F35Bs.
Lockheed Martin: Sorry sir, the queue is full. Please wait for another time.
Bring back the F111, we need a decent Bomber. We need them to fear Australia Again….or buy some B1’s
We need 100 more of these!
Iconic? Wow.
Interesting it's being called the lightning 2 when in 2019 any posters that had been printed with lightning 2 had to be thrown away and replaced with the ones printed JSF.
"I know what Aircraft I'd rather be in."
Hmm, I don't think so. About 5-10 years too soon to be considered iconic in my books. Most of us probably haven't seen one yet in the wild.
Hi RAAF, any idea if the F35 will be at the MotoGP this year?
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#1 is definitely the CAC Boomerang
nah despite being a wonderful aircraft we didn't use it for very long compared to the other aircraft on this list
RAAF F-35 will training with Malaysian SU-30 MKM soon also TUDM FA-18D Hornet,they said best Aircraft for best pilot but the best pilot always the best...Greetings from Malaysia.
so the F-111 is more Iconic than the Spitfire and F-111 ok seems legit it should have gone spitfire 2 F-111 1
I don't see why nobody is talking about the Kittyhawk
@@devonlord99 exactly the p40 did more in Aussie service than the f35
How many F-35A's are in squadron service with the RAAF at time of writing? Are any of them based in the far north, where they will be needed if they're needed at all? What's its real payload and range, under stealth? How much has it cost to upgrade bases in the north of Australia to provide the enormously elaborate facilities it requires? What are its actual availability and sortie rate figures, in RAAF service? It's on the answers to those questions and others about its real deployability and serviceability that its real value to Australia depends. It's not good enough to trot out a pilot or two to say how gosh-wow it is, if everything goes right. Far more important is how often does something go wrong? And how quickly is it fixed when it does?
if something goes wrong we'd find out through footage of a large fireball on the news. The answers to most of your questions are reasonably classified as of the moment.
@@devonlord99 Unfortunately, no. If anything is wrong with this aircraft's programming, its systems prevent operation. To put it simply, it doesn't start. There's no such thing as a workaround. That's what "fully integrated systems" means. It's down, until corrected, or if it's a hardware problem, until parts come through, which at present can take weeks. Any glitch at all does that. That's one reason for its wretched availability numbers, as reported by other air forces. Another is false positives. Its average availability for all missions is still below 60%, and the latest numbers I can find on its sortie rate is .4 a day - three a week.
Noice.
Anyone know who does the voiceover? Edit: never mind, says in the end credits
Never mind, he sounds like an Aussie, and better still, isnt a robot voice!
The AUS and USA will have to up their game a bit now that Russia has announced their new highly capable Checkmate fighter jet.
2:05 hope they’re not running windows and get the blue screen of death
f-111 and f-35 lightning are the best of the royal australian air force excellent fighters of the raaf
except there not F-111 Was never a Fighter and F35 is multirole
@@jamesbeach5445 I would argue that australia hasnt had a true fighter plane since the CAC Sabre. the Mirage , though it could fight had such limited range its more of an interceptor, the f-111 was a ground attack \bomber, f-18 and f-35 (again can fight, and fight well, but are multirole) unlike , the f-15 or f-22 are true fighters.
that said, i really think the f-35 is a great thing for us
@@andrewpuckridge7633 well wheb people think offast jrts they dont say multiroleplanes or ground strikeplabes they say fighterplanes ........ no need to be hoity toity
@@jamesbeach5445 Yeah i know, but there are pedants out there, and i thought a reasoned point of view was better than others who would just resort to name calling :) But i come from an airforce point of view (not actually serving i might add - child of a mirage\f-111 maintenance fitter) and the definition is important to some types ..
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Should have brought Saab.
We need a long range bomber fleet to replace the F111.24-36 Raider bombers at a billion each is very cheap compared to that lemon Sub deal.Just one B-21 would sink a fleet at very long range.
Where's the love for the Herc.
1 & 2 should have been Orion and F-111
yes but can we afford to operate them at their phenomenal costs of operation per hour of flight time?
yeah the F35 has the edge alright, it has the edge on exhausting the Australian budget in a real-time war scenario not too mention reconnaissance missions from air patrolling.
Composer a fan of Eve Online soundtrack?
75 F35’s isn’t enough for the security of Australia. We need to double that, at least. 3 bases should we built . One in Northern WA QLD and NT. We cannot rely on the USA, so independence we must commit. Unstable areas in our region is growing ... rapidly
We couldn't defend Australia alone regardless, we don't have the budget to compete in numbers, and we have more allies than just the US. Besides, any actual invasion of Australia would be useless and a waste of resources.
What happens if the Aircraft gets damaged in a fight and the electronics die?
I think we have a couple of Boomerangs still flying.
How is that possible? It’s just entered service.
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What happens if the helmet breaks?
Call to wingman to use his for target acquisition. F-35 can do that - aircraft "talk" to each other and also share weapons and targeting
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The F-111 was the first RAAF aircraft I fell in love with.
Untouchable at Red Flag etc.
Get some f35b.
The F35 hasn't earned its place on this list. I can think of three aircraft that deserve to be the top 10 based on their service over the 100 year history and there is only one position to go. Personally, I'd put the CT4 above the F35 given that as the ab initio trainer for over 40 years (including its service at the ADF Basic Flying Training School) it has probably been flown by more RAAF pilots than any other aircraft.
Most of the trainers deserve a place in the top ten.
Starting with the Tiger Moth.
Every WWII pilot had to fly a Tiger Moth
Don't forget the Airspeed Oxford.
Please Denmark buy more F-35 than 27 only 13 more.
It's a great aircraft but not that iconic to the RAAF. I feel the Classic Hornets are more iconic but not a better aircraft.
I was right. All this to promote this piece of shot. It’s was clear from the beginning, How the hell this mistake is iconic ? It wasn’t in service even 5 years. Oh yes I forgot, money.
This is a rather controversial choice, since it has yet to prove itself.
We are f*cked.
F22s so mush cooler
Nuh, F111 looks better than em all
Over priced crap.
Yep, rip off, plus its ugly
The F-35 has more thrust than I put in my girlfriend
I hope we have modified the American design to actually work as it should. I thought this plane was supposed to be a complete dud.
C'mon Mate! Do some of that pilot sh*t!
It’s rather slow compared to a Russian jet :/
Look we understand the F-35 is the new toy but an Icon? Please.
The Spitfire, Kittyhawk, Beaufighter all fought, Australians died in our own and foreign lands flying them are not?
Even the Mirage which served as our front line fighter defende gets passed over for an aircraft still not fully capable.
Very poor choice.
I mean the Spitfire which defended Darwin...
Seriously..
Excuse me........f 35 iconic...Thats just dumb...thats just a flying fat van.Lets be honest..Second place as most iconic could be the spitfire or something else......my god..this shit is just propagandaaa........
Maybe you should tell the Australian public that it cost $800k for a helmet for this.
Maybe you should tell the public that it's not really stealth.
Maybe you should tell the public how maintenance heavy this F35 is.
Even the Americans don't like this fighter jet and are considereding a replacement.
The ugliest fighter ever designed.
So it sounds like, F35 is designed for stealth (stealth over its own territory?), short range combat (USA's B variant is degisned to work with its navy fleets) what are our A variants for? And collective combat network (so, in other words we have to spend a lot of $$$ and send a lot of it out in order to receive the benefits?). It's almost like Aus is propping up US defence contracts, just like how it scrapped the very capable French sub deal just to re-align with US's naval capability. Peer pressure is one hell of a drug. Poor tax payers.
The F-35 is an absolute joke and has failed at every step of the way. Not to mention it's about 15 years late!
It's a great example of how not to design an aircraft. A lesson that should have been learnt back with the developement of the F-111.