@JayJr2007 im so sorry to hear that these Fellow CP RAIL Workers of Mine are very Rude i would never do that to any railfan because they are any extra set of eyes for the industry i love your videos JAY Chris carlson
They act like we, as railfans, even care about who is runnin the train. Don't get me wrong, I talk to the nice crews. But I don't wake up some day and say "Hey, Jeff is driving that heritage unit this way. I better go see it, not because of the heritage unit, but because Jeff is the engineer"
And this is why I like train spotting in the uk. Often drivers will give some extra horn blows for rainfans and I once saw someone stop their train so someone could shoot a video.
You know what pisses me off about that is you're not chasing down a star in his own personal life, you are admiring what the person is doing in their professional life. Now I know this guy and a couple other jerks are the minority, and make no mistake I know the railroad is not a kind place to some who have never worked for one. But in my situation with very little family life I have tried and would love to work for the railroad (who has many who want to get hired here in Canada but few positions available). To make someone who is a railfan assume he is the type that works at Tim Hortons, first what is so wrong with that with little work out there? Second what is the assumption that he works at a minimum wage job about? Class warfare personally I hope I get to take his job one day.
+JayJr2007 I guess I'm lucky I barely take photos or video these days. I got a trip coming up on March break driving as far west as Denver. I'll be passing by Altoona which I've been to the curve once before after that most is all new west through Ohio, Indiana, Missouri, Kansas. Be passing through Columbus, OH, St. Louis, KC. The spot in Denver is a railfan hotel hotspot downtown by the yard. Then heading east along the transcon passing North Platte, Lincoln, NE for the night (another good view from that hotel). Last stop will be the Diamond Lodge at Rochelle, IL outside of Chicago which is another huge hot spot. Most of these places are used to railfans I guess. I don't understand what is up with CP these days. Hunter must be busting their balls too much and making them miserable.
"Maybe we can go to Tim Hortons and take a picture of him while he's working" LOL. I have yet to meet or see a grumpy engineer or conductor. Most of them wave back at me or give me a couple of toots from the horn. Was this train 112?
The way it was said, sounds like it was in fun. Some crews are just anti-foamer. Most crews don't care. Just another reason to keep doin what your doing and forget the ignorant ones.
It's funny. We've got crews that are unfriendly around here, but at least none of them actually say stuff about us. The only one who ever did was fired shortly after for unknown reasons. They think we're out to take pictures of them; but in reality, most railfans, if they wanted pictures of their ugly faces, would ask for one....
But the thing is, especially when a crew is doing manual work, there are managers and upper managers that will see your videos and pick it apart and use it as evidence to fry a lowly conductor or engineer, even when nothing happened, no one got hurt and no equipment was damaged. Stupid things like a Conductor who normally works a daylight job but got bumped to a night job and forgot to grab a pair of clear safety glasses... Three months down the road he's getting suspended for two weeks because some uppity-up watched a foamer vid and saw he was wearing dark glasses during twilight hours. I worked with a guy who was given street time because one of our favorite foamers got a picture of him resting his elbows on the handrails even though we were stopped at a crossing and waiting for a yard job to clear up. He was not maintaining proper 3-point contact in the photo and that was the reason he received a suspension, even though it had been months since the actual incident happened. I certainly do not condone or advocate rude behavior towards the railfans and I agree with my fellow railroader here that we depend on you more because you are the extra set of eyes. But at the same time those eyes have also come at a cost because of situations that arise from the videos or photos which cost us our paychecks.
I hate to see drama like this because it makes for an uncomfortable job on our part and an uncomfortable hobby on yours. We had a situation similar to this that was started by the foamers over the matter of propping the door open on the front. We were doing it because the 3,000 HP oven we were working on had no A/C or fans (aside from the guys with the cameras on the wayside) and it was well over 45C degrees (115F) with it closed. After weeks of having things thrown at us (mostly verbal, sometimes stale old coffee) I finally got down and asked the guy What Gives!? When he explained that the open door was ruining his shot and we were wasting all his time, money and effort in his hobby, I was so mad I could have punched him. Apparently his feelings were mutual. But rather than duking it out, I asked him if he wanted to let me know where he was set up at and I would close the door as we got to that spot. The very next time I saw him set up with his cameras, I jumped up, closed the door, sat back down and as we went by he gave us a thumbs-up. I opened the door again and all our problems were solved for a week or two. The rest of my crews heard about this situation and had apparently been so antagonized by this guy that even in the winter, whenever they saw him they would jump up and open the door to mess up his shot. SMH
That kind of crazy should never be tolerated & and people who take pleasure in ratting crew members out are POS human beings not one of us. Most of us do what we can to respect the crews and stay out of the way.
JayJr2007 I don't believe any of the fan videos or photos I described were meant to rat out the employees. It was purely situational, where some stuck up manager perused fan sites or channels looking for dirt and in those examples they found some dirt.
Hey, what's with this starbucks stuff??????? I thought tim hortons was an institution in Canada. I heard to become a Canadian citizen, you have to swear to drink tim hortons at least 5 x a wk.
Thomas Lalor that’s called a stereotype. Their food and coffee especially is garbage. Lots of fellow Canadians are brainwashed too tho. Yes Starbucks preferred, even Mickey ds
I do have to admit "maybe we can go to Tim Hortons and take pictures while he's working" "ahaha" was pretty funny XD
Yeah it was. LMAO
@JayJr2007 im so sorry to hear that these Fellow CP RAIL Workers of Mine are very Rude i would never do that to any railfan because they are any extra set of eyes for the industry i love your videos JAY Chris carlson
Thanks man!
J
Yes your right. When I'm trackside I'll do a roll-by inspection of my own and always make sure to stay out of the way.
For future reference *DON’T RAILFAN CP!!*
He didn't even wave either. Excellent video Jason.
They act like we, as railfans, even care about who is runnin the train. Don't get me wrong, I talk to the nice crews. But I don't wake up some day and say "Hey, Jeff is driving that heritage unit this way. I better go see it, not because of the heritage unit, but because Jeff is the engineer"
I think the engineer was embarrassed that you caught him accidentally flashing his conductor at the 2:05 mark. You can hear him go “sorry!”
He didn't need his retinas anyway. lol
@@JayJr2007 🤣🤣
1 power unit pulling all those cars? Someone is pulling my leg.
Cp does that alot.
And this is why I like train spotting in the uk. Often drivers will give some extra horn blows for rainfans and I once saw someone stop their train so someone could shoot a video.
How do they load such of trains? Was it 150 cars?
You know what pisses me off about that is you're not chasing down a star in his own personal life, you are admiring what the person is doing in their professional life. Now I know this guy and a couple other jerks are the minority, and make no mistake I know the railroad is not a kind place to some who have never worked for one. But in my situation with very little family life I have tried and would love to work for the railroad (who has many who want to get hired here in Canada but few positions available). To make someone who is a railfan assume he is the type that works at Tim Hortons, first what is so wrong with that with little work out there? Second what is the assumption that he works at a minimum wage job about? Class warfare personally I hope I get to take his job one day.
+Sean Murrell What they don't realize is that I am there to film the trains & wish they would get the hell out of my shot. lol
+JayJr2007 I guess I'm lucky I barely take photos or video these days. I got a trip coming up on March break driving as far west as Denver. I'll be passing by Altoona which I've been to the curve once before after that most is all new west through Ohio, Indiana, Missouri, Kansas. Be passing through Columbus, OH, St. Louis, KC. The spot in Denver is a railfan hotel hotspot downtown by the yard. Then heading east along the transcon passing North Platte, Lincoln, NE for the night (another good view from that hotel). Last stop will be the Diamond Lodge at Rochelle, IL outside of Chicago which is another huge hot spot. Most of these places are used to railfans I guess. I don't understand what is up with CP these days. Hunter must be busting their balls too much and making them miserable.
Excellent comments Sean
It seems like there’s more friendly engineers on CN then CP.
How long are these trains?????
That is one long train.
So Jay what did the engineer say to you i couldn't hear him
+cn78356 If he hits me and gets a weekend off he can plans to go to Tim Hortons and take pictures of me working.
"Maybe we can go to Tim Hortons and take a picture of him while he's working" LOL.
I have yet to meet or see a grumpy engineer or conductor. Most of them wave back at me or give me a couple of toots from the horn.
Was this train 112?
+Blake Trafford - Mile Post Productions Could be 112 - not sure. Yeah 95% are friendly ...
Blake Trafford - Mile Post Productions some even through me hats and water. That guy is a straight dick. Filming the trains not him!!!
You need yo figure out a way to hop on the frequency with a radio and respond, and say yeah, that would be funny and watch the radio go silent
Yeah it would be fun & easy enough to do - but illegal to broadcast on those frequencies. Thanks for watching, J
We are not civil engineers😂
Well i saw an engineer smoking in the cab witch I heard is illegal
Fine video with a heavy locomotive, thanks
+JA “JABerthelot” Berthelot Thanks for watching! J
Character In the video It's great, I like it a lot $$
Good video Jay !
Thanks man! Cheers
The way it was said, sounds like it was in fun. Some crews are just anti-foamer. Most crews don't care. Just another reason to keep doin what your doing and forget the ignorant ones.
Nice catch Jason
ive seen CSX workers yell at railfans on YT even UP police claiming its illegal to film lol
It's funny. We've got crews that are unfriendly around here, but at least none of them actually say stuff about us. The only one who ever did was fired shortly after for unknown reasons. They think we're out to take pictures of them; but in reality, most railfans, if they wanted pictures of their ugly faces, would ask for one....
hey thats 112
But the thing is, especially when a crew is doing manual work, there are managers and upper managers that will see your videos and pick it apart and use it as evidence to fry a lowly conductor or engineer, even when nothing happened, no one got hurt and no equipment was damaged. Stupid things like a Conductor who normally works a daylight job but got bumped to a night job and forgot to grab a pair of clear safety glasses... Three months down the road he's getting suspended for two weeks because some uppity-up watched a foamer vid and saw he was wearing dark glasses during twilight hours. I worked with a guy who was given street time because one of our favorite foamers got a picture of him resting his elbows on the handrails even though we were stopped at a crossing and waiting for a yard job to clear up. He was not maintaining proper 3-point contact in the photo and that was the reason he received a suspension, even though it had been months since the actual incident happened.
I certainly do not condone or advocate rude behavior towards the railfans and I agree with my fellow railroader here that we depend on you more because you are the extra set of eyes. But at the same time those eyes have also come at a cost because of situations that arise from the videos or photos which cost us our paychecks.
I hate to see drama like this because it makes for an uncomfortable job on our part and an uncomfortable hobby on yours. We had a situation similar to this that was started by the foamers over the matter of propping the door open on the front. We were doing it because the 3,000 HP oven we were working on had no A/C or fans (aside from the guys with the cameras on the wayside) and it was well over 45C degrees (115F) with it closed. After weeks of having things thrown at us (mostly verbal, sometimes stale old coffee) I finally got down and asked the guy What Gives!? When he explained that the open door was ruining his shot and we were wasting all his time, money and effort in his hobby, I was so mad I could have punched him. Apparently his feelings were mutual. But rather than duking it out, I asked him if he wanted to let me know where he was set up at and I would close the door as we got to that spot. The very next time I saw him set up with his cameras, I jumped up, closed the door, sat back down and as we went by he gave us a thumbs-up. I opened the door again and all our problems were solved for a week or two. The rest of my crews heard about this situation and had apparently been so antagonized by this guy that even in the winter, whenever they saw him they would jump up and open the door to mess up his shot. SMH
That kind of crazy should never be tolerated & and people who take pleasure in ratting crew members out are POS human beings not one of us. Most of us do what we can to respect the crews and stay out of the way.
JayJr2007 I don't believe any of the fan videos or photos I described were meant to rat out the employees. It was purely situational, where some stuck up manager perused fan sites or channels looking for dirt and in those examples they found some dirt.
"TIM HORTON" -- one of the greatest contributors to Canadian culture.
I like Starbucks better. lmao
Thanks for watching,
J
Hey, what's with this starbucks stuff??????? I thought tim hortons was an institution in Canada. I heard to become a Canadian citizen, you have to swear to drink tim hortons at least 5 x a wk.
I don't watch NHL hockey either.
Thomas Lalor that’s called a stereotype. Their food and coffee especially is garbage. Lots of fellow Canadians are brainwashed too tho. Yes Starbucks preferred, even Mickey ds
@@CANControlGRAFFITI McD's coffee is not bad at all lately.
They should be happy they are on TH-cam 😂
Nice video!
I never even cared about Canadian rail until I found your videos so I'd think they should appreciate the free publicity. >:|
Pay no attention the "R.Ns" who are manning those locomotives! They should be careful the wrong person will see this.....and oops No job!
I did chuckle. Yeah it was rude but hey.
GREAT VIDEO!
just another weirdo I say lol. nice catch Jay !
nice video
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