The Tragic Fate Of The SS Morro Castle | History Retold | Absolute History
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- The world’s oceans are as beautiful as they are deadly. Thousands upon thousands of miles of empty water.
If a ship encounters trouble far from land, there is little those onboard can do- except hope for rescue. Though sinking may seem to be the worst that can happen to a ship at sea, it’s actually fire that creates the most horrific pain and suffering. A fire aboard ship is indiscriminate in its attack, taking the lives of everyone from immigrants seeking a new life to cruise ship elite looking for a good time on the waves. Throughout time there are thousands of stories of horrific fires at sea. The images that tell their tales are remarkable, haunting, and rarely seen. Now, with restored film footage and high definition photo technology, we can look deep inside these seagoing stories of heroism and tragedy to fully understand what happens aboard ship when there is a fire at sea. Because not only does a fire at sea mean a ship is going down, but passengers and crew have two choices: be burned alive or jump into an unforgiving ocean.
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the video footage of the people being interviewed at the time is INCREDIBLE wow thanks
indeed it was:)
George Rogers started the fire on the Morro Castle. He was a firebug who created incendiary devices and bombs, with multiple other crimes before and after the ship disaster. He later sent a mail bomb to try to kill a police officer investigating him for fraud.
Please do more of ocean liners documentaries.
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Considering the fact that you were speaking of ammunition explosions, I'm surprised y'all didn't bring up the December 6th, 1917 explosion of the SS Mont Blanc (a munitions ship) after colliding with the SS Imo in Halifax harbor, damn near leveling the town.
_Two_ towns.
it's one or two on the largest non nuclear explosions ever list
Such tragedy. Very sad moment in history.
My 3 kids are veteran USN sailors and one was assigned to the USS Bonhomme Richard. As they were preparing to return to active duty, after an extensive refit, there was a fire in the well deck which was so crammed with gear waiting to be stowed that there was no controlling the blaze. My point being that even aboard a modern ship fire is incredibly dangerous and difficult to control.
this is awesome. i remember learning about the Morro Castle from a random documentary years ago. i was amazed by the story and wondered why i never heard of her before.
I couldn't get more than 3 minutes in because the narrator is so melodramatic... Rather than pressing the seriousness of the issues at hand, it just sounds exploitative & over the top.
More about the Morro Castle, please, and less about all the other boats stuck into this for padding.
I forgot what this was supposed to be about - (the Morrow Castle) until I read your comment.
I was happy to see the General Slocum story. My grandmother was part of the group, but didn't go that day.
19:20 Never mind mentioning the tug tied to the stern of the Morro Castle that was acting as the ship’s rudder. Her line snapped first causing the loss of control to the Morro Castle. Afterwards, when the MC was free to drift in the wind and waves, is the point when the cable on the Coast Guard cutter snapped. I’m not a fan of condensed history and this is a case in point. There are too many inaccuracies and omissions concerning the Morro Castle tragedy in this video. The fact of the entire matter is more complicated, and even more fascinating, than this video suggests. On a positive note, the video and stills concerning the Morro Castle was interesting. I would recommend those intrigued by the tragedy read “SHIPWRECK: The Strange Fate of the Morro Castle” by Gordon Thomas. It is a great read, well researched, and a nail biting page turner.
Oh my god this is so full of misinformation and I'm less than eight minutes in. They just said the ship didn't have enough lifeboats for the passengers and crew. On the contrary, it had enough lifeboat capacity for more than three times its full capacity, and it was nowhere near full on its final voyage.
No point in watching the rest, I'm afraid.
Thank you for noting the inaccuracies of the segment on the Morro Castle. I completely agree. The disaster is more complicated than this video suggests, and important facts were omitted entirely. Condensed versions of historical events should be scrutinized and taken with a grain of salt. In this case perhaps the whole salt shaker would be appropriate.
I know they were trying to fit a lot of info in here, but there's so much about the General Slocum disaster that was left out, I'd recommend checking out other documentaries on that fire after this.
It was really insane in scope of tragedy.
Yea, they tried to cover too many different ships in 50 minutes and the end result was the documentary felt a mile wide but an inch deep.
Can we talk about how clean the pop in "up" was at 4:04?
This doc would’ve been about 20 mins shorter had homeboy spoke like a normal person.
YOU COULD SPEED IT UP.
His voice is appropriately somber
Agree, I thought it was awkwardly slow as well. He drags his words unnecessarily. It's hard to follow people that talk really slow. Sounds like a slow person who has a hard time reading.
@Brenda Harper Talking slow makes a person sound slow. Not intelligent. lol.
@@Dulcimertunes No it's not somber. He just talks slow.
I love these video, I’m hooked
was that a pun?
I have been on a 3 day binge....Even when I drive lol
If I ever teach classes in Video Narration, this will be at the top of the syllabus -- as an almost ludicrously perfect example of twelve different bad practices to avoid.
Seriously. I made it four minutes in before I couldn't take it anymore.
"The Main's gun could fire at ships or submarines"
In 1895 there weren't very many submarines to fire at. There may have been a couple worldwide, but they still tended to sink more often than they worked. Just a couple years later submarines began to be functional. However, had there been an enemy with a submarine surfaced, the Main could have fired at it, so the statement is correct.
The narrator reminds me of the guy who does horror stories on TH-cam. Rob Duke or something.
Rob Dyke, now Rob Gavagan.
My grandmother, who lived in the German community of NYC's Lower East Side, was supposed to be on the General Slocum. The morning of the excursion, she sassed back to her mother who punished her by not letting her go. Years later, my mother told that story to a younger friend, who was amazed. The friend's grandmother was supposed to go on that trip but spilled her breakfast down her only good dress. Thank God.
Alegations of smuggling weapons to revolutionaries, captain suddenly dies for no reason, smoke appears, then ship goes up in flames! SABOTAGE!
Something foul was afoot.
I believe the radio operator started the fire
George rogers was psycho that killed the captain and started the fire then he continued to kill ppl during his life
I'd have to agree. I honestly think Rgers, the radioman had a lot to do with it.
@@espnluver7525 I agree. I've been reading up on the disaster and Rogers had motive, method, and opportunity.
I think the "Maine" at 23:05 is *a* Maine, but not the Maine. That is, it's the BB-10 Maine launched 1901 and not the 1889 Maine that exploded in Havana.
Interesting stuff, but kind of a strange documentary the way it bounces back and forth between different ship disasters. They're all united by the "fire at sea" theme, but I think it would have made for a more compelling documentary to just focus on one ship.
The ship "Morro Castle" shown at 3:55 is actually an earlier ship built at Cramp Shipyard of the same name.
Uh buddy, loved the video, but Theodore Roosevelt was not elected president in 1901, William McKinley was. Roosevelt, serving as vice-president, succeeded him following McKinley's death. The proper pronunciation of the Oriskany is O-risk-uhknee.not O RIS KANEE Makes wonder what else you got wrong.
It’s hard to believe my parents were alive at the time of this tragedy. Mama was age eight, Papa, age five.
The way he said up had me crying 😂🤣 4:03
Pop
The background music too 🤣
Interesting stories, but the script writer needs to learn to tell a story from beginning to end without veering wildly off course. Each ship's story could have been a series of shorter, less bewildering videos rather than one long, twisting, confusing vid. And really, the narration is a bit much. One can only take so much "DOOM! DOOM! DOOM!" tone before it becomes tiresome.
This is like History on ADHD!
Slocum, Maine, Spanish American war...
You could have easily just spent an hour on the SS Morrow Castle instead!
I was so excited to see a video on the Morro Castle, but this is just meandering and... not good. The actual story is so off the wall bizarre, yet you made it boring.
This is not very well done.
If the Morro Castle was indeed running guns to Cuba, you would think the guns would have been off loaded to Cuba and the ship devoid of any weapons or ammo since it was on the return voyage. I had heard a rendition of the disaster as some of the crew were composed of Cuban exiles and at least one of them was a revolutionary type. Supposedly a fire broke out, was extinguished and a second fire set by someone. Perhaps it was an attempt to stop the gun running by a Cuban arsonist or Mr. Rogers who had a sordid past just setting the blaze for his own reasons.
please do more videos on famous ocean liners that no longer exist
I thought this was about a fire on the first ship in the beginning, now im confused. Too many ships and dates not in chronological order.
@og jenny - Don't feel bad. I got so lost in this video I had to end it halfway through. If you are going to do a documentary about one thing then stick to the issues regarding that one thing. This "documentary" went on so many tangents that had *_nothing_* to do with the disaster because there was no way to fill 50 minutes on just the SS Morro Castle.
The narrator for this video is not very good at his job lmao
Many years ago I saw a full length documentary about the Morro Castle on HBO. It was really interesting and I was hoping this would be a similar look at the tragedy. Morro Castle was only briefly mentioned! Why are there so few investigations into this fire?
Probably because of the alleged munitions being carried on board back and forth between the US & Cuba. Just like everyone wants to claim mass murder by the Germans by sinking the _RMS Lusitania_ because no one wants to admit there was war materiel on board at the time it was sunk which eliminated it from claiming it was "an innocent passenger ship."
@@OAleathaO bingo
> Why are there so few investigations into this fire?
It's become a regional story with the passing of the years.
7:28 - "There are 12 lifeboats on-board; not enough for the 549 passengers and crew." They were reportedly capable of carrying 400 total, according to the British Pathé news website about this disaster. However, the 2 outrageous issues with that statement are: 1) This happened well after the _Titanic_ in which both British & American Boards of Inquiry stated in *_1914_* that, "ships should carry enough lifeboats for all aboard". Despite both British & American policy makers agreeing on the totally unnecessary loss of life on the _Titanic_ was due to an insufficient number of lifeboats, the SOLAS Treaty didn't start to be enforced until 1960. 2) This ship was built *_and_* registered in the USA, which in light of the 1914 recommendations, illustrates a "do as I say not as I do" attitude. 3) Most lifeboats were filled with crew instead of passengers as is claimed on the British Pathé website about this disaster. Granted there could be many reasons for this but I think it partially demonstrates where the crews' interest really was and it probably wasn't the passengers' safety.
I thought that too. By 1934, lifeboats for all were de rigeur on ships.
He got a few facts wrong as well, that some simple research would have caught, for instance, Teddy Roosevelt was from New York, not New England. Also he was not elected president in 1901. He was elected Vice President in 1900, became Vice President in March 1901, and became president in September 1901 upon the assassination of William McKinley. These are ones I’m familiar with, makes me wonder about the accuracy of the stuff I’m not familiar with.
At 3:14 @ The fiery hulk of a passenger ship steams north” I’m sure that her boilers and engines were out of commission once she was gutted by fire. But that sounds more dramatic than saying she was drifting west in the current.
What could have been very interesting, was rendered difficult to watch due to overly dramatic and accentuated narration. Also jumped from story to story without direction. Wanted to finish, but finally gave up.
Would you rather the monotone computer voices so many other channels use? I find those very frustrating, and sometimes outright laughable. At least this sounded like a human.
i grew up on Long Island, and am very familiar with the story of the Slocum fire. I've seen the memorial to the victims at Mount Olivet Cemetery in Queens, NY. A contributing factor was the fact that, at the time of the fire, the General Slocum was at the confluence of the East River, the Hudson River, and the Long Island Sound. The competing currents from these three bodies of water give the location the name of Hell Gate.
Oriskany (town in New York) = ohr - RISS - kah - nee
Another documentary on the Morro Castle that's so overly long they spend more than 20 minutes of a 50 minute film on the General Slocum and the Maine. IS there a decent concise film on the Morro Castle disaster? I'm beginning to wonder.
Great video
1:17 “. . .but many of the most infamous are not well-known.” Infamous MEANS well-known.
Our high school is scolded by fire marshalls if teachers leave small obstructions in the hallways, yet Wal-mart and Home Depot clutter their aisles so thickly with huge boxes of merch. I guess there's an important difference I am not aware of. I often think about the chaos if a fire breaks out.
0:00 - 0:45
*Hates the dramatic narration*
0:45
Realizes its all a meme...
0:45 - 50:06
*Loves it*
17:18 i really shouldn't be laughing but the audio skip makes it sound like he said 'hurled into a maelstrom of dick!'
I think that not having enough lifeboats for all passengers and covering them with so much paint that they can’t even be lowered is absolute stupidity.
Why is there NEVER enough lifeboats on big ships?
The video was okay, but by the title I expected more of it to be about the Morro Castle. It seemed like it focused on the other disasters more and just glossed over it at the end.
The moral of this story is...don't go on a ship with "castle" in its name, in the late 50s early 60s the liner Yarmouth Castle burned too...
Disjointed, no flow to narration or any sort of clear definition of how you are trying to tie multiple stories together. Narration is supposed to be the path through the forest. I'm still wondering where the next bread crumb will pop up.
Theodore Roosevelt was a New Yorker, not a New Englander. Otherwise, excellent documentary. Great photos.
Why all the nonsense and physiological dialog in the startup
Do more videos, but please cut back on the random narratives like in the beginning
4:26 this looks like the SS Aquitania. lol
Need one on the Yarmouth Castle!
Almost an exact repeat of the Morro Castle
I came here to specifically learn about the Morro Castle, not other ships. This video couldve been much shorter.
OR-RIN-SKI.........how you say that aircraft carrier's name.....just a little research helps............
They had enough lifeboats aboard, but because of the fire not alle of them could be used.
ocean liner documentaries have become popular since the whole covid thing has started...
There are much better videos that cover the Morro Castle, without the add ins and without the judgements being passed here. Good grief.
What happened to the Remaining Ship ,Was it Sunk or Cut up ?
It's spelled Oriskany, but pronounced Oriskinny, the "a" is an short "i", I served on her in '75 and that's how the crew said it, FYI.........keep on.........wiley coyote
Thanks for your service! Also thanks for the correction on the pronunciation of Oriskany! Was driving me crazy!]
Now the MSC 'Lirica' has become the latest name in this category. The tales of fire aboard ship continue.
Teddy Roosevelt was from NY, not New England.
This is not a Morro Castle history.
So, 10 minutes of this is about the Morro Castle?
Is Nancy the smarter of my two sisters, OR IS CONNIE? lol It's aw-ri-skuh-nee, please.
Wait why does the narrator speak so aggressively lmao
17:58 such handsome men!
Mure deaths than the titanic?this would be a better movie.
This was supposed to be about the Moro castle, but to much time was wasted talking about other ships. Which was a waste of time for the viewers!🤨
It's pronounced O'-rick-a-knee not or-a-scom-me
The narrator I just can't
Sad...
Narratopr does not have suitable voice...
I can deal with the narrator fella talkin kinda slow, but I do not believe the US Navy ever had an aircraft carrier commissioned the "Or-a-skonny"??? I'll admit that pronunciation threw me off atad, lol. Now they did have one called the USS Oriskany ('O-risk-ka-nee' is the way I always heard it), CV-34, but not "or-a-skonny", Lordy, Lordy, ssmh. Why use that as the example and not the USS Forestfire.....oops, beg pardon, I mean the USS Forrestal, is beyond me. Unless maybe they would have to edit out/explain that Navy pilot fella that had his Admiral Daddy cover up that part of his seriously screwing-the-pooch and firing off a Sidewinder into abuncha other fully armed/fueled planes while sitting on deck.....but I digress.
I think, perhaps, you've fallen for the ole "fake news!"
When I was in the Navy I've heard the Oriskany referred to many times as "The Toasty O".
@@vick.1349......USS Forrestal = USS ForrestFire. Ole screw-the-pooch McCain owns one of them fires.
He was talking about the oriskony you forgot to add USS Forrestal in there that was even a worse disaster and it was caused by John McCain
Very poorly done, among so much-the Morro Castle wasn't a steam ship, she was a turbo electric vessel, read the comments to find a wealth of corrections. I would also point out that a chunk of the narration around the 50 min mark was lifted directly from Wikipedia.
Holy Jesus, this segment on the Morro Castle is full if misinformation. First of all, the ship had more than enough lifeboats, and the ship was not even at full capacity. Second, a few minutes in, when it pans in on the ship, it's not even the correct ship. Who approved this, "documentary"? It is full of inaccuracies!
Thought it was the 'Or-ISS -cann-eee'? ... not 'Oris-CONnie'? Please correct me. Thanks
Ok, now it happened in 1904? He just said it 1934
He was talking about another ship (most specifically a paddle boat/ferry) called General Slocum named after the Civil War hero of New York. It was on June 15, 1904 when the fire started in the East River-SS Morro Castle was in flames a few decades after the General Slocum which was 1934. But they had the same mistakes-not trained for fire drills, & they didn’t prepare passengers for evacuation on time. One of the crew could’ve been careless and all that.
Whisper and turn up the dramatic music so it's useless video
Inappropriate music...
What the hell did the dead guy do?
Tragic 😥
Luckily fire isn’t nearly as dangerous nowadays as it used to be with all the safety advances
Sorry, cannot take the narrator - quite unpleasant - I'd even say annoying.
The absurdly melodramatic delivery and constant OVER emphasis of CERTAIN words is VERY annoying. I will MOST definitely be BLOCKING any OTHER videos from THIS channel. 🤢🤢🤢🤢🤮
Never heard Oriskany pronounced.that way...was annoying...btw O-RIS-KAH-NEE.... emphasis on the RIS
Oh-risk-anee.....
...its pronounce, Or is kinny, phonically...I know I was on her in the mid 70s, its cool that she's still around as a dive site, anyway it's named for a battle in the revolution, part of the Saratoga campaign, get this, Benedict Arnold commanding, it was why he turned, he rallied his men and was wounded leading them to victory, wounded in the same leg he was shot in during the Quebec campaign, he had a severe limp and pain from it for the rest of his life...all that and Horatio Gates steals the victory from Arnold, and no promotion that he was promised....sorry rambling
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As much suffering these stories tell,it's all human err.AS WITH THE GERMANS...WELL...LOOK AT THE LIVES THEY COST
Oriskany......Is pronounced.....OR-iska-KNEE. No proofreaders!
This narrator omg yeesh
It is pronounced oriskany
Too many coincidences.
TEXAS WWI AND WWII.
Twenty years after the Titanic sinks there are not enough life boats?
Titanics outcome did indeed effect shipbuilding, in England. The US held no obligation to follow the English rulings. This is one generation removed from the robber barons. The mindset of the robber barons did rub off, if by no other means than there was no other example of how to do it.
Its pronounced Oh-risk-kinny... please stop mispronouncing the name of my old boat, do some research for christs sake, you need to get the frickin name of your subject right.... I expect better.... everytime you say it wrong myself along with thousands of my shipmates cringe, it makes your site, 44 sailors died, it's very disrespectful not to say the name of the ship they died on correctly, again do some research, talk to anyone who ever served aboard and can tell you how to say Oriskany....
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