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You were correct noting that Iceland had low red hair percentage but you cannot easily dismiss the theory based on a recently settled place like Iceland alone.... Which has very recent massive Foundation population bias
I have red hair and blue eyes, big red beard with blonde eyebrows, eyelashes and mustache. Ive done the DNA tests before, and ive often gotten results back from being primarily German with a mix of Scottish, English, Swedish, Danish and Russian. I also love cold weather and I hate the sun aside from having it grow food for my food Looks like i checked off just about every box xD
That’s for the video- a follow up video where the carriers of the variants of the gene are accounted for would be cool. For example: how many carriers of the gene are there for every person that expresses the gene? This info would dispel the myth that redheads are going extinct…
Yeh, I watched a few videos from her when researching this video, they were interesting. I think she identifies as Tatar though which is again interesting.
I had a discussion a few months ago with a Russian friend of mine about the Udmurt people, and he was saying that in Russia, the stereotype is for red-heads to be Jewish. Yet the Udmorts are anything but Jewish, mostly Orthodox, some other Christian denominations or Muslim. So they are a very notable exception to that Russian stereotype. You see, there was a Russian girl on our tennis team with gorgeous waist-length red hair that I was curious about... but it turns out she has a Muslim father from the Caucasus region, so not Jewish and not Udmort. I was also reading at the time the story "The Desert Lich" by Frank Belknap Long, where one of the characters is a Central Asian (presumably somewhere in central Russia) Muslim man with red hair. So while my friend insists red-heads in Russia are mostly Jewish, I had several examples to hand suggesting otherwise. But, you know, stereotypes... hard to shake them once you get them in your head.
he was lying to you lol. either that or trolling you with double meaning of "red haired" in russian language. >> where one of the characters is a Central Asian (presumably somewhere in central Russia) Muslim man with red hair. Central Asia is nowhere near IN Russia. I live in Bashkortostan (Muslim Republic in Russia, european part of Russia) we have some red hair ppl, in fact some researches say that local ppl were more red haired in the past.
Never heard about this stereotype. And I'm the red-haired Russian male, who lived in 10+ different regions of Russia, so I probably know every damned stereotype about us ever existed here;) Ps: not an Udmurt though but have some Mordva blood
Our indoAryan-Yamnaya R1b ancestors from Russia/Siberia long ago gave us the red hair freckles pale skin genes for the purpose of help with vitamin via Sunlight consumption!
Yamnaya is not in Siberia. And they themselves descend from different populations. Paler skin and light and red hair were originally present in different populations, as well as blue eyes, those traits didn't go hand in hand originally. And that was needed for vitamin D only after transition to agriculture, because food became poor in vitamin D. And we don't "consume sunlight" it just triggers chemical conversion of vitamin D. Ya'll not a plant
Note.. Red Hair is from West Siberia or region from East Europe to Siberia region... not all R1b Yamnya have .. Indo Aryan is not related here.... not all R1b carried red hair and it evolved for Vitamin D in specifc region.
Great video. Your hypothesis are plausible. Having said that, I think that the correlation between R1b and red hair is strong in Western Europe and could have been stronger in the past even among Udmurts. From an autosomal perspective, they have one of the highest percentages of Steppe Pastoralists ancestry, the rest being mainly siberian. Their genetic history is somewhat similar to the one of other European finno-ugric people, where a high prevalence of N y chromosome haplogroups is correlated with high Steppe ancestry. It is obvious that R1a and R1b were the prevalent haplogroups in origin, replaced later by N trough a male driven finno-ugric migration. Red hair was even more prevalent in Central Asia in previous times : the Wusun and the Tocharians had almost all red hair, according to chinese sources and surviving frescoes.Not surprisingly Afanasievo and Tocharians ( and possibly Wusun) had R1b as prevalent haplogroup
Yeh, I watched a few videos from her when researching this video, they were interesting. I think she identifies as Tatar though which is again interesting.
Thanks Celtic History Decoded for your interesting videos about where we come from with an emphasis on Central Asia and North West Europe this time. this science is fascinating and enlightening with your presentation being entertaining, interesting and educational! More power to you, John Lampe, sunny Perth, Western Australia. P.S.Happy New Year!
I'm r1b. Red headed males and females run on both sides of the family. My paternal family comes anciently from the Eure Valley, Normandy,France. And lately from Lincolnshire, England. We ran with the Conqueror.
There's a married couple of comedians, Viktoria and Ramil Kasimov. She's an Udmurt and, of course, a redhead. Ramil is from another significant Volga population - he's a Tatar. If you are fluent in Russian, look the Kasimovs up - they are absolutely hilarious. Uralic and Turkic people coexisted along the Volga for centuries (if not millenia), it's really fascinating how their (and Slavic Russian) cultures and genes have intermingled, and yet remain distinct in that area. As a side note, as a blue-eyed, reddish-hued R1a carrier, I'm kinda confused by all this fuss about R1b 😁
Interesting, thanks. It's only because the R1b argument is one of the most common ones you'll see to explain this red hair phenomenon in Udmurtia, but I'm not fully convinced
As a redhead always find this interesting. Fun fact before World War 1, the Tsar had a unit that only had redheads, not sure how many would have been natural, but I'm sure a few Udmurts would have been in there.
I notice that haplogroup I is not common amongst Udmurts which suggest Vikings weren't such a genetic influence. Interestingly Udmurts have a relatively high incidence of maternal haplogroup H1a, which is very Fennoscandian.
It's in Russia unfortunately. Besides that even most of us Finns are completely unaware of these related peoples living within Russia. Nothing we can do.
Greetings from Russia. You missed a very important point. The Finno-Ugrians are a mixed type. Initially, they were Mongoloids. Their ancestors (haplogroup N) appeared in South China. Then they migrated north. They looked roughly like modern Yakuts (also N). Then they moved through Siberia to the west. They lived in the Urals for a long time. And when they descended to the Russian plain, they began to mix with the Slavs. And the further west they went, the more European they became (Finns, Estonians, Latvians, Lithuanians and Hungarians). Apparently, the Udmurts had the most optimal proportion of mixing, which is why they had red hair.
You can also have incomplete dominance of the MC1R gene to produce a red combination. A good example would be the young Robert Redford, who had light blond hair and a red beard. I was in the same boat with a darker golden blond that turned chestnut brown. My mother and maternal grandmother had red hair, so I doubtless have one allele. I mentioned before on this channel the curious case of the Old West figure Wild Bill Hickok. Contemporary descriptions mention gray eyes, red hair, and a blond beard. This must be the result of incomplete dominance in a combination that is exceedingly rare.
Interesting video as always. I think you might be on to something about the amount of red heads in Udmurt. Though a lot of it is still quite speculative.
They are the last remnants of Ancient North Eurasians that dominated Northern Eurasia for 30k+ years. But mixed with Asian newcomers. The "indigenous" Siberians we think of today are all newcomers from Asia compared to them. Ancient North Eurasians spread the red/blond hair + light eyes + extremely light skin all throughout Eurasia. they are the only reason why that pheontype even exists in Europe. Indigenous Europeans had a much darker hair/skin/eye phenotype compared to ANE. The Celts got it from them too, naturally. But the Finno-Ugrics have less indigenous European and Middle Eastern admixture compared to other modern Europeans. haplogroups are a distraction, you can be descended from a people group to 99% and share none of their haplogroups. They can point you in the right direction, but you have to compare somatic chromosomes to find the real ancestral history.
Agreed! Minor quibble: Light eyes is a Western Hunter Gatherer trait. The light haired/ light eyed combination only came into existence as Ancient North Eurasians with light hair and skin mixed with light eyed but swarthy Western Hunter Gatherers in Eastern Europe as the last Ice Age ended.
@@alfonsfalkhayn8950 Yes, white skin from Siberia is unlike Europeans. Siberians, Finno-Ugric, Turkic, as well as other far-eastern Asians like the Japanese and Koreans have this trait.
I think there was a genetic skin advantage in the olden days in cold regions with less sunlight (more vitamin D production). The red hair was a side effect that would have been attractive to many due to its rarity, especially on the sex slave market, like blonds.
The famous Ottoman Ivan Sirko had red hair a Zaporozhian Cossack who lived to a ripe age of 80 died in 1680 . Kyivan Rus rulers also had red hair and past it onto British Royalty from Volodymyr Monomach .
R1b is pretty much the majority of Northern Europe... (it split off around 18,000 years ago - very soon after R1). There are some Irish associated halotypes that would have likely been dispersed through a wider area though being caught up in the Viking slave trade (with Vikings having a presence in Ireland)
Well I think R1b originated somewhere between Perm and Yekaterinburg from a Western Ancient North Eurasian (ANE) population. Apparently some Ancient Tarim samples are closest to the ANE Ancient Afontova Gora population... We know that the earliest Blond women sofar was found at Afontova Gora. Recently there was a ANE women discovered among the Denisova Cave remains dated to 24 000 years ago. Wound like to see a trait predictor of her according to DNA. This is +-1300 kms. West of where the Mal'ta Buret boy was found. Interesting is also that the MN2003 sample from near Samara had lighter hair and skin than other EHG (Eastern "European" Hunter Gatherers) from that region. He was R1b....etc.
How about this as a theory: Red Hair has its origin with the Ancient North Eurasians of Siberia back before the last Ice Age. The trait makes its way into Eastern Europe when the ice melts and the region is re-populated. It percolates there until the Bronze Age when the Indio-Europeans explode out of Eastern Europe. They are highly mobile and carry the red-hair trait far and wide. Scotland and the Urals are on the fringes of this expansion. Through isolation, the founder effect, and natural selection red hair becomes prominent in these areas.
I guessed/excepted a red hair population in Russia to be connected to Finns. A lot of Finns have red hair or brown with a reddish hue. With blue/grey/green/yellow eyes.
I have seen many different maps of R1b frequencies with that peculiar pocket inside of Russia. Who is making those map and where did they get the evidence from ?
This is a fifteen-year-old map from the eupedia website. When there was nothing else but homogeneous markers and shows Bashkirs. Now there are already professional maps and amateur of decent quality, when the main component is taken from the population and amplified in other populations.
I have red hair, and it is extremely red. I'm from the Caucasus, and most people have red hair. what you are showing in your video is golden blond and not red. Come to my region, and I'll show you red!
Explain this. My youngest son is redheaded, I am blonde, his mother is brownish. My grandfather on my dad's side was redhead, I think (old pictures). Is grandpa back to watching me?
Thanks for sharing. Probably as David said as well in the comments, you can carry the gene without it being expressed, until you have a child with someone who also doesn't express the gene themselves but carries it, and then a red-haired child will appear seemingly out of nowhere. I think around 40% of people in Scotland carry the red hair mutation but it's only expressed in 6-13% people or so. Thanks.
The Only link between Udmurt and Irish besides red hair is - Yamnya and R1B. That is to say not all R1b have red hair, only like 5 to 10% Yamnaya had... there was some selection in Udmurita of Redheads.
As an observation, when I visited the Ukrainian Club here in Brisbane a few weeks back, I noticed not only snowy-blonde Ukrainians, but several red-haired Ukrainians. Also, I think relevant to the Udmurts, that your theory of sexual attractiveness to people with unusual and striking looks is a very strong and valid argument. Perhaps it was a cultural trait?
You did not mention the Tocharians. It would be an easy explanation. When the Indo-European-speaking Tocharians went eastwards from Europe to Asia, they may have crossed the area of the Udmurts and left a lot of red-hair genes. Or are there any strong points against the Tocharian origin of Udmurtic hair colour?
I feel there is going to be a surge of men boking tickets to the Udmurt region after this video. There is a girl I've been watching on YT for several years who is from this region. And yes, she has the most beautiful red hair I've ever seen.
My thought is: if we take an area with (let's round up) 5-15% red haired people, why are we interested in knowing the most commen haplotype? If 50% of the people is N or 80% is R1b is not for me as important as knowing the haplotype of just the red haired people.
Facinating. I have a brother that all 3 of their children have red hair. Yet neither of them had red hair, though his wife had red hair and there is the occasional red hair in our family history.
Ive found STRONG Link between Red Hair and ( ANE % x R1b %)... Tarim oldest Red hair in mainstream also has both R1b and 80% ANE... so R1b ANE are real Readheads.
The correlation is not perfect for sure but iceland is a bad example , it is quite empty that's why it's different on the two maps -people on R1b don't cover the entire island-.
Pay attention : En Ukraine, il existe la Galizia, où se trouve d'ailleurs le foyer belliciste de l'Est de l'Ukraine (Lviv, Ivano Frankvist) or chaque fois que la toponymie inclue le préfixe GAL/VAL/WAL, cela signifie qu'il y eut des peuplements Gaulois. Donc parfois si en Russie ou en Ukraine, vous avez l'impression de croiser une Irlandaise, c'est plus probable que ce soit une descendante de Gaulois, ce ne sont pas les mêmes nuances de roux. Autres exemples : Pays de Galles, Valais, Portugal, Wallonie, Gaule, Galice, Galitia, Galizia, etc...
@@iainmc9859 French is a derived from Latin with some Germanic influence. It is thought by linguistics that Celtic and Latin is closely related with an original Celto-Latin language.
@@iainmc9859 French language had many influences and influenced many. I disagree, considering that the Latin name of the population related to Hallstatt civilisation is Gallia, while for the Greek it was Celta then Celtoi. But toponymy, at some point, retains the logic of the occupier, for this reason there are many Latin's "Gal" (found in Turkey, Romania, Ukraine) because of Roman Empire. And with the time, in French, GAL sometimes morphed into WAL/VAL, like many other words. Vulpa -> Goupil (fox) Guillaume -> William Pays de Galles -> Wales. So in France, we could use any of the two names, interchangeably, but we use more often Gaulois to designate ourselves, and Celtic to designate others (but Belgians).
Let's see. gingers/redheads have some Celtic ancestry, and the Celts ruled parts of Russia at one time (in fact, our word slave comes from the word Slav), so Russians, like the rest of us, get their red hair from their Celtic ancestors.
It’s called transmigratory gene flow. I believe the theory is basically modern humans who were part Neanderthal travelled through Africa leaving some of their genes !
How interesting. My wife is Russian and has Many relatives with red/reddish hair. Their family fled during the Bolshevik’s genocide led by Trotsky of the Old Believers. Perhaps this area is we’re many of them were at.
Нет, старообрядцы не имеют отношение к этому региону.они происходят из центральной и северной россии.по сути старообрядцы выглядят,как русские 17века,из за строгого запрета на межконфессиональные и межэтнические браки.п.с.я сам из старообрядческой семьи
I had red hair when i had hair. That's nothing. I was ripped aff doon the Mad Buyer on the London Road, Glasgow. A Hiwatt all valve 100W head ow worth £5000 for £20. Carried the fucking thing under my arm all the way down High Street!
According to the bible they are descendants of Esau the red. He founded the Edomite tribe. That tribe built the second temple in Jerusalem. They where killed in large numbers by the Romans because of their wicked ways. They fled north and founded the Khazar empire. The Rus drove them off because of their wicked ways again and they spread across the world. Some came to Britain in 1066 and settled in Scotland on stolen land and founded many clans there. Others became slaves to the Rus and some fled north ending up in Udmurtia. They where called the name changers.
Tocharians (note phonetic "Ary", "Ara"): en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tocharians : "Prakrit documents from 3rd century Krorän, Andir and Niya on the southeast edge of the Tarim Basin contain around 100 loanwords and 1000 proper names that cannot be traced to an Indic or Iranian source." One Link.
Les roux ne viennent pas des vikings., Mais d'orient. Vour esau. Genese 25; 25..''le frere de jacob ne entierement roux. Adulte il s'installa dans la region de seir en Edom..
I’m a Khazar. People you know know as Russian Jews. We are heavily redheaded. We are related to Udmurts. We were part of the Scythian empire together as one.
I’m from the NW corner of Spain (Galicia). Our history tells us we came from the area north of the Black Sea about 3000 years ago. Comprised of Scythian and Sarmatian tribes. We have towns with 80% red hair, including my whole family.
This should not be surprising - Russians are European (ethnic Russian). Europe should be divided in to "North Europe" and " Southern Europe" - instead of West & East... the Scottish Highlanders were from a region in Russia from my research. Thank you for the information. 😊 Happy New Year 🎉 & GOD Bless 🙏🏻 ☦️ ✝️♥️💚♥️
Northern Europeans have more Steppe Indoeuropean DNA with an average of 45%, Southern Europeans have more Anatolian DNA with an average of 60% Anatolian DNA. But we can separate by Western and Eastern axis, Western Europeans have more Western Hunter Gatherer DNA with 25%, and Eastern Europeans have more Eastern Hunter Gatherer DNA with 10%, the EHG component is exclusive to Eastern Europe, in addition Northeastern Europeans have more genetic affinity towards Siberians due to the high amount of DNA from Ancient Northern Eurasians, and associated genetic flow by Siberian indigenous people represented by the N1a1 lineage. If we talk about phenotypic characteristics, Western Europeans have Dolichocephalic skulls more similar to Southern and Middle Eastern Europeans, Eastern Europeans have Brachycephalic skulls slightly more similar to Siberian Indigenous people
I read that Europeans are descended from three ancestral groups to a greater or lesser degree, the Ancient Hunter gatherers (who due were never great in number), Steppe Nomads from what is now the Ukraine and Western Russia and Neolithic Farmers from Anatolia what is now Turkey. In Northern Europe they have more Steppe ancestry, and in Southern more Neolithic farmer but all share the same mix at different levels.
@@eponymousarchon7442 They have now included additional denominators. Pastoralists are the Lower Volga cline. The Middle Stack is the ancestor of Europeans, a mixture of local hunters and the Volga cline, which had or did not have a relationship with the Volga cline, to a greater or lesser extent. Thus, it is far from a fact that western Europeans are related to the original nomads.
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You were correct noting that Iceland had low red hair percentage but you cannot easily dismiss the theory based on a recently settled place like Iceland alone.... Which has very recent massive Foundation population bias
I have red hair and blue eyes, big red beard with blonde eyebrows, eyelashes and mustache. Ive done the DNA tests before, and ive often gotten results back from being primarily German with a mix of Scottish, English, Swedish, Danish and Russian. I also love cold weather and I hate the sun aside from having it grow food for my food
Looks like i checked off just about every box xD
Food for your food. Good man. Meat is life!
you sound gorgeous, do you identify as him or her? 😍
@@IronCurtainTwitcher Well the user name is Collin, So id guess he's a guy.
Savages don't deem other peoples, let alone creatures lives, as important 😢
You sure you're not a vampire?
I’m from Galicia in Spain, we have towns that are up to 80% redhead. Our history says our founding fathers came from Scythian and Sarmatian tribes.
As an example, The Mexican boxer Canelo Alvarez is of Galician decent.
Which town ? I know that A Coruña is where the Mil Easpne left towards Ireland.
Hi, can you describe me this founding myth and if it is written down anywhere? Also which town?
More likely of Suebian origin a Germanic people described as red haired by Roman's who settled in northwest Iberia..
Who became the Scots ... and the Samaritans could you believe moved to Japan.... The Samurai
I might be wrong, but I think Eli from Russia is from that region.
She's tatar but lives close to udmurtia
Yeah right next door.
Perm
Перем, Perem
In Finnish and Vepsian perämaa means "far-away land"; similarly, in Hungarian perem means "edge" or "verge".
Tatars 34,253 3.8%
Bashkirs 7,729 0.8%
Komi-Permyaks 7,301 0.8%
Ukrainians 6,507 0.7%
Udmurts 4,847 0.5%
Others 23,985 2.7%
That’s for the video- a follow up video where the carriers of the variants of the gene are accounted for would be cool. For example: how many carriers of the gene are there for every person that expresses the gene? This info would dispel the myth that redheads are going extinct…
Yeh, I watched a few videos from her when researching this video, they were interesting. I think she identifies as Tatar though which is again interesting.
She's the first person that came to my mind when I saw the topic.
I had a discussion a few months ago with a Russian friend of mine about the Udmurt people, and he was saying that in Russia, the stereotype is for red-heads to be Jewish. Yet the Udmorts are anything but Jewish, mostly Orthodox, some other Christian denominations or Muslim. So they are a very notable exception to that Russian stereotype. You see, there was a Russian girl on our tennis team with gorgeous waist-length red hair that I was curious about... but it turns out she has a Muslim father from the Caucasus region, so not Jewish and not Udmort. I was also reading at the time the story "The Desert Lich" by Frank Belknap Long, where one of the characters is a Central Asian (presumably somewhere in central Russia) Muslim man with red hair. So while my friend insists red-heads in Russia are mostly Jewish, I had several examples to hand suggesting otherwise. But, you know, stereotypes... hard to shake them once you get them in your head.
he was lying to you lol. either that or trolling you with double meaning of "red haired" in russian language.
>> where one of the characters is a Central Asian (presumably somewhere in central Russia) Muslim man with red hair.
Central Asia is nowhere near IN Russia. I live in Bashkortostan (Muslim Republic in Russia, european part of Russia) we have some red hair ppl, in fact some researches say that local ppl were more red haired in the past.
Mais que savez vous si cette femme rousse de descend pas du peuple de Judée???
Never heard about this stereotype. And I'm the red-haired Russian male, who lived in 10+ different regions of Russia, so I probably know every damned stereotype about us ever existed here;)
Ps: not an Udmurt though but have some Mordva blood
I have seen several people talking about the ancient Hebrews having red hair. 🤷♂️
Открою вам секрет что коренные кавказские народы как чеченцы и грузины на самом деле рыжие.
Our indoAryan-Yamnaya R1b ancestors from Russia/Siberia long ago gave us the red hair freckles pale skin genes for the purpose of help with vitamin via Sunlight consumption!
Yamnaya is not in Siberia. And they themselves descend from different populations. Paler skin and light and red hair were originally present in different populations, as well as blue eyes, those traits didn't go hand in hand originally. And that was needed for vitamin D only after transition to agriculture, because food became poor in vitamin D. And we don't "consume sunlight" it just triggers chemical conversion of vitamin D. Ya'll not a plant
Note.. Red Hair is from West Siberia or region from East Europe to Siberia region... not all R1b Yamnya have .. Indo Aryan is not related here.... not all R1b carried red hair and it evolved for Vitamin D in specifc region.
Happy New Year and thank you for the lesson.
Great video. Your hypothesis are plausible. Having said that, I think that the correlation between R1b and red hair is strong in Western Europe and could have been stronger in the past even among Udmurts. From an autosomal perspective, they have one of the highest percentages of Steppe Pastoralists ancestry, the rest being mainly siberian. Their genetic history is somewhat similar to the one of other European finno-ugric people, where a high prevalence of N y chromosome haplogroups is correlated with high Steppe ancestry. It is obvious that R1a and R1b were the prevalent haplogroups in origin, replaced later by N trough a male driven finno-ugric migration. Red hair was even more prevalent in Central Asia in previous times : the Wusun and the Tocharians had almost all red hair, according to chinese sources and surviving frescoes.Not surprisingly Afanasievo and Tocharians ( and possibly Wusun) had R1b as prevalent haplogroup
Absolutely fascinating: what a beautiful people! Happy New Year to you, good Sir! 🎉
Thank you. Happy New Year, all the best :)
Would love some videos on the Welsh celts, the oldest Britons and Celts, would be cool to see a dive into it
A red head girl from Russia mentions this on yer YT channel, called Eli From Russia.
Yeh, I watched a few videos from her when researching this video, they were interesting. I think she identifies as Tatar though which is again interesting.
Thanks Celtic History Decoded for your interesting videos about where we come from with an emphasis on Central Asia and North West Europe this time. this science is fascinating and enlightening with your presentation being entertaining, interesting and educational! More power to you, John Lampe, sunny Perth, Western Australia. P.S.Happy New Year!
Thank you, much appreciated John. Happy New Year :)
I'm r1b. Red headed males and females run on both sides of the family. My paternal family comes anciently from the Eure Valley, Normandy,France. And lately from Lincolnshire, England. We ran with the Conqueror.
There's a married couple of comedians, Viktoria and Ramil Kasimov. She's an Udmurt and, of course, a redhead. Ramil is from another significant Volga population - he's a Tatar. If you are fluent in Russian, look the Kasimovs up - they are absolutely hilarious.
Uralic and Turkic people coexisted along the Volga for centuries (if not millenia), it's really fascinating how their (and Slavic Russian) cultures and genes have intermingled, and yet remain distinct in that area.
As a side note, as a blue-eyed, reddish-hued R1a carrier, I'm kinda confused by all this fuss about R1b 😁
Interesting, thanks. It's only because the R1b argument is one of the most common ones you'll see to explain this red hair phenomenon in Udmurtia, but I'm not fully convinced
@@celtichistorydecodedR1B только у башкиров 70 процентов и они в основном темноволосые,а рыжие как правило R1A и группа N
As a redhead always find this interesting. Fun fact before World War 1, the Tsar had a unit that only had redheads, not sure how many would have been natural, but I'm sure a few Udmurts would have been in there.
I notice that haplogroup I is not common amongst Udmurts which suggest Vikings weren't such a genetic influence. Interestingly Udmurts have a relatively high incidence of maternal haplogroup H1a, which is very Fennoscandian.
Thank you for your insights and happy New Year!
Thanks Richard. Happy New Year, have a great one :)
We must protect that genetic reserve to all costs!
Sadly, the population of that "republic" is collapsing.
@@richardthomas5362 I know. Feminism and pollution have that effect.
It's in Russia unfortunately. Besides that even most of us Finns are completely unaware of these related peoples living within Russia. Nothing we can do.
@@richardthomas5362 Ireland and Scotlandare are more in danger. EU forced migration policies.
@@eero3242Все финны с ДНК N вышли из территории современной России уральская группа. У коренных кавказцев чеченцев и грузин тоже рыжие волосы.
Greetings from Russia. You missed a very important point. The Finno-Ugrians are a mixed type. Initially, they were Mongoloids. Their ancestors (haplogroup N) appeared in South China. Then they migrated north. They looked roughly like modern Yakuts (also N). Then they moved through Siberia to the west. They lived in the Urals for a long time. And when they descended to the Russian plain, they began to mix with the Slavs. And the further west they went, the more European they became (Finns, Estonians, Latvians, Lithuanians and Hungarians). Apparently, the Udmurts had the most optimal proportion of mixing, which is why they had red hair.
You can also have incomplete dominance of the MC1R gene to produce a red combination. A good example would be the young Robert Redford, who had light blond hair and a red beard. I was in the same boat with a darker golden blond that turned chestnut brown. My mother and maternal grandmother had red hair, so I doubtless have one allele. I mentioned before on this channel the curious case of the Old West figure Wild Bill Hickok. Contemporary descriptions mention gray eyes, red hair, and a blond beard. This must be the result of incomplete dominance in a combination that is exceedingly rare.
Vikings moving West became more redheaded. The Viking that went to Russia were blonde.
You can look at Hesse in Germany. It’s a strong spot for red”s. My family came from there, and we still have it.
Interesting video as always. I think you might be on to something about the amount of red heads in Udmurt. Though a lot of it is still quite speculative.
They are the last remnants of Ancient North Eurasians that dominated Northern Eurasia for 30k+ years. But mixed with Asian newcomers.
The "indigenous" Siberians we think of today are all newcomers from Asia compared to them.
Ancient North Eurasians spread the red/blond hair + light eyes + extremely light skin all throughout Eurasia. they are the only reason why that pheontype even exists in Europe.
Indigenous Europeans had a much darker hair/skin/eye phenotype compared to ANE.
The Celts got it from them too, naturally. But the Finno-Ugrics have less indigenous European and Middle Eastern admixture compared to other modern Europeans.
haplogroups are a distraction, you can be descended from a people group to 99% and share none of their haplogroups. They can point you in the right direction, but you have to compare somatic chromosomes to find the real ancestral history.
Agreed! Minor quibble: Light eyes is a Western Hunter Gatherer trait. The light haired/ light eyed combination only came into existence as Ancient North Eurasians with light hair and skin mixed with light eyed but swarthy Western Hunter Gatherers in Eastern Europe as the last Ice Age ended.
N!##@s.....in Europe?!
@@alfonsfalkhayn8950 Yes, white skin from Siberia is unlike Europeans. Siberians, Finno-Ugric, Turkic, as well as other far-eastern Asians like the Japanese and Koreans have this trait.
you forgot to ask the most basic question: does the carpet match the drapes?
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I clicked on comments to see if someone said that and it was the third comment I seen.
I think there was a genetic skin advantage in the olden days in cold regions with less sunlight (more vitamin D production). The red hair was a side effect that would have been attractive to many due to its rarity, especially on the sex slave market, like blonds.
It's the natural balance. A dance of ice and fire comes to mind
The famous Ottoman Ivan Sirko had red hair a Zaporozhian Cossack who lived to a ripe age of 80 died in 1680 . Kyivan Rus rulers also had red hair and past it onto British Royalty from Volodymyr Monomach .
R1b is pretty much the majority of Northern Europe... (it split off around 18,000 years ago - very soon after R1). There are some Irish associated halotypes that would have likely been dispersed through a wider area though being caught up in the Viking slave trade (with Vikings having a presence in Ireland)
Well I think R1b originated somewhere between Perm and Yekaterinburg from a Western Ancient North Eurasian (ANE) population. Apparently some Ancient Tarim samples are closest to the ANE Ancient Afontova Gora population... We know that the earliest Blond women sofar was found at Afontova Gora. Recently there was a ANE women discovered among the Denisova Cave remains dated to 24 000 years ago. Wound like to see a trait predictor of her according to DNA. This is +-1300 kms. West of where the Mal'ta Buret boy was found. Interesting is also that the MN2003 sample from near Samara had lighter hair and skin than other EHG (Eastern "European" Hunter Gatherers) from that region. He was R1b....etc.
Look it up AUSTRALIA has the highest percentage of red haired people in the world around 15 plus percent an o type blood grouping too
Thanks. I presume that's obviously driven by people from Scotland and Ireland etc emigrating
How about this as a theory: Red Hair has its origin with the Ancient North Eurasians of Siberia back before the last Ice Age. The trait makes its way into Eastern Europe when the ice melts and the region is re-populated. It percolates there until the Bronze Age when the Indio-Europeans explode out of Eastern Europe. They are highly mobile and carry the red-hair trait far and wide. Scotland and the Urals are on the fringes of this expansion. Through isolation, the founder effect, and natural selection red hair becomes prominent in these areas.
I guessed/excepted a red hair population in Russia to be connected to Finns. A lot of Finns have red hair or brown with a reddish hue. With blue/grey/green/yellow eyes.
My family lives in Michigan, and on the 45th parallel. We have several red heads.
Sexual selection most definitely played a role
I have seen many different maps of R1b frequencies with that peculiar pocket inside of Russia.
Who is making those map and where did they get the evidence from ?
DNA
This is a fifteen-year-old map from the eupedia website. When there was nothing else but homogeneous markers and shows Bashkirs. Now there are already professional maps and amateur of decent quality, when the main component is taken from the population and amplified in other populations.
@@mr.purple1779 so the eupedia map was borrowed from scientific literature ?
@@fcolucero8867 Yes, from literature fifteen years ago.
I have red hair, and it is extremely red. I'm from the Caucasus, and most people have red hair. what you are showing in your video is golden blond and not red. Come to my region, and I'll show you red!
Explain this. My youngest son is redheaded, I am blonde, his mother is brownish. My grandfather on my dad's side was redhead, I think (old pictures). Is grandpa back to watching me?
It's explained in the video. The gene involved is regressive, so neither parent might be a redhead, but both parents might carry the gene.
He is not your son....you just believe he is, Lol!😅
Thanks for sharing. Probably as David said as well in the comments, you can carry the gene without it being expressed, until you have a child with someone who also doesn't express the gene themselves but carries it, and then a red-haired child will appear seemingly out of nowhere. I think around 40% of people in Scotland carry the red hair mutation but it's only expressed in 6-13% people or so. Thanks.
Just to add. I should have typed 'recessive' not regressive. My mistake.
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Very interesting. Thankyou.
Thanks, same to you
he said "red hair" and I understood "ray tearr"
The Only link between Udmurt and Irish besides red hair is - Yamnya and R1B. That is to say not all R1b have red hair, only like 5 to 10% Yamnaya had... there was some selection in Udmurita of Redheads.
For sure in prehistoric times there were tribes of Red headed peoples all over Asia.
Societies tend to genetically drift in the direction of locally percieved Attraction/beauty standards.
I just googled that area. I walked the streets using google. That city was so beautiful and clean.
As an observation, when I visited the Ukrainian Club here in Brisbane a few weeks back, I noticed not only snowy-blonde Ukrainians, but several red-haired Ukrainians.
Also, I think relevant to the Udmurts, that your theory of sexual attractiveness to people with unusual and striking looks is a very strong and valid argument. Perhaps it was a cultural trait?
You did not mention the Tocharians. It would be an easy explanation. When the Indo-European-speaking Tocharians went eastwards from Europe to Asia, they may have crossed the area of the Udmurts and left a lot of red-hair genes. Or are there any strong points against the Tocharian origin of Udmurtic hair colour?
I feel there is going to be a surge of men boking tickets to the Udmurt region after this video. There is a girl I've been watching on YT for several years who is from this region. And yes, she has the most beautiful red hair I've ever seen.
Redheads are Aryans from Eire 🇮🇪
My thought is: if we take an area with (let's round up) 5-15% red haired people, why are we interested in knowing the most commen haplotype?
If 50% of the people is N or 80% is R1b is not for me as important as knowing the haplotype of just the red haired people.
Because R1b is a common argument people make to explain this but I'm not so sure as I got through in this video
Thank you for your videos.
Thank you. Happy New Year :)
I have red-ish hair .. barely noticeable, not technically a red top though.
Ethnic Russia is basically the Moscow region... Novgorod......the rest are colonised people
Very interesting.
Thanks
4:00 I think Iceland should be excluded from correlation, as far as I know it was long uninhabited
Facinating. I have a brother that all 3 of their children have red hair. Yet neither of them had red hair, though his wife had red hair and there is the occasional red hair in our family history.
What? Did neither of them have red hair, or did his wife? Sober up before commenting again. That was painful to read
Ive found STRONG Link between Red Hair and ( ANE % x R1b %)... Tarim oldest Red hair in mainstream also has both R1b and 80% ANE... so R1b ANE are real Readheads.
The correlation is not perfect for sure but iceland is a bad example , it is quite empty that's why it's different on the two maps -people on R1b don't cover the entire island-.
Pay attention : En Ukraine, il existe la Galizia, où se trouve d'ailleurs le foyer belliciste de l'Est de l'Ukraine (Lviv, Ivano Frankvist) or chaque fois que la toponymie inclue le préfixe GAL/VAL/WAL, cela signifie qu'il y eut des peuplements Gaulois.
Donc parfois si en Russie ou en Ukraine, vous avez l'impression de croiser une Irlandaise, c'est plus probable que ce soit une descendante de Gaulois, ce ne sont pas les mêmes nuances de roux.
Autres exemples : Pays de Galles, Valais, Portugal, Wallonie, Gaule, Galice, Galitia, Galizia, etc...
Wales is from the Anglo-Saxon word for 'foreigner'. It doesn't fit your hypothesis.
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Yet, in French Wales is called Gales.
@XavierY828 French isn't a Gaulish tongue, it's Germanic, with some Romanche as it's basis, which explains the connection to Anglo-Saxon 'Wales'.
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French is a derived from Latin with some Germanic influence. It is thought by linguistics that Celtic and Latin is closely related with an original Celto-Latin language.
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French language had many influences and influenced many.
I disagree, considering that the Latin name of the population related to Hallstatt civilisation is Gallia, while for the Greek it was Celta then Celtoi.
But toponymy, at some point, retains the logic of the occupier, for this reason there are many Latin's "Gal" (found in Turkey, Romania, Ukraine) because of Roman Empire.
And with the time, in French, GAL sometimes morphed into WAL/VAL, like many other words.
Vulpa -> Goupil (fox)
Guillaume -> William
Pays de Galles -> Wales.
So in France, we could use any of the two names, interchangeably, but we use more often Gaulois to designate ourselves, and Celtic to designate others (but Belgians).
The origine of red hair is in indonesia.
Sailers from the west mixed genes with orang utans.
Ireland ruled Scotland pre Roman times.
The Red-Headed League
Hola, alguien por ahí es del haplogrupo MIT. H1b.?? Los genetistas lo han asociado al Y H1a. 🙋🏻♂️🇺🇾
Relationship with proto indo European and uralic people's maybe next video
accent of speaker is delightful.
Thanks
we all came from Africa so chill, everyone is black
ДНК R1B у Башкиров 70 процентов,а у удмуртов группа N уральская группа.
Let's see. gingers/redheads have some Celtic ancestry, and the Celts ruled parts of Russia at one time (in fact, our word slave comes from the word Slav), so Russians, like the rest of us, get their red hair from their Celtic ancestors.
Okay, now explain the R1B1s Y chromosome in Central Africa 😊
It’s called transmigratory gene flow. I believe the theory is basically modern humans who were part Neanderthal travelled through Africa leaving some of their genes !
Mahommad had a red beard...🤔
English people also should have high percentage of red hair, right ?
They do have some redheads, but I am not convinced by the R1b argument fully as I go through
@celtichistorydecoded are english people genetically closer to dutch people than they are to scottish , Irish and Welsh people ?
Celtic not English
I blame the Viking traders
How interesting. My wife is Russian and has Many relatives with red/reddish hair. Their family fled during the Bolshevik’s genocide led by Trotsky of the Old Believers. Perhaps this area is we’re many of them were at.
Нет, старообрядцы не имеют отношение к этому региону.они происходят из центральной и северной россии.по сути старообрядцы выглядят,как русские 17века,из за строгого запрета на межконфессиональные и межэтнические браки.п.с.я сам из старообрядческой семьи
@ it won’t let me translate that brother.
The redheads I've dated were polish or German.
I had red hair when i had hair. That's nothing. I was ripped aff doon the Mad Buyer on the London Road, Glasgow. A Hiwatt all valve 100W head ow worth £5000 for £20. Carried the fucking thing under my arm all the way down High Street!
According to the bible they are descendants of Esau the red. He founded the Edomite tribe. That tribe built the second temple in Jerusalem. They where killed in large numbers by the Romans because of their wicked ways. They fled north and founded the Khazar empire. The Rus drove them off because of their wicked ways again and they spread across the world. Some came to Britain in 1066 and settled in Scotland on stolen land and founded many clans there. Others became slaves to the Rus and some fled north ending up in Udmurtia. They where called the name changers.
El color no es rojo, es anaranjado!
red heads are not celts
Go Rangas
Cheers happy new year for you urdmert people uralic people's interesting the baskhir people have a large amount of Rb 1
Thanks. Happy New Year
Why are there red haired jews?
Les roux ne viennent pas des vikings., Mais d'orient. Vour esau.
Everybody know red hair is caused by eating carrots ;)
Tocharians (note phonetic "Ary", "Ara"): en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tocharians :
"Prakrit documents from 3rd century Krorän, Andir and Niya on the southeast edge of the Tarim Basin contain around 100 loanwords and 1000 proper names that cannot be traced to an Indic or Iranian source."
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Why? Simply because they are the most beautiful women in the world?
Les roux ne viennent pas des vikings., Mais d'orient. Vour esau. Genese 25; 25..''le frere de jacob ne entierement roux. Adulte il s'installa dans la region de seir en Edom..
Why Russians. Full stop.
😂 you do know Russia had many Irish generals throughout it's history ya colonial stain.
Athegari are the redheaded tribe in the Scythian empire.
I’m a Khazar. People you know know as Russian Jews. We are heavily redheaded. We are related to Udmurts. We were part of the Scythian empire together as one.
no
Khazar jews are no scythian people's 😂😂😂 or any relation to them
Udmurts are Finno-Ugric
I’m from the NW corner of Spain (Galicia). Our history tells us we came from the area north of the Black Sea about 3000 years ago. Comprised of Scythian and Sarmatian tribes. We have towns with 80% red hair, including my whole family.
@@Performance-101vous descendez du frère de Jacob essau.
I love redhead women
This should not be surprising - Russians are European (ethnic Russian). Europe should be divided in to "North Europe" and " Southern Europe" - instead of West & East... the Scottish Highlanders were from a region in Russia from my research.
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Northern Europeans have more Steppe Indoeuropean DNA with an average of 45%, Southern Europeans have more Anatolian DNA with an average of 60% Anatolian DNA. But we can separate by Western and Eastern axis, Western Europeans have more Western Hunter Gatherer DNA with 25%, and Eastern Europeans have more Eastern Hunter Gatherer DNA with 10%, the EHG component is exclusive to Eastern Europe, in addition Northeastern Europeans have more genetic affinity towards Siberians due to the high amount of DNA from Ancient Northern Eurasians, and associated genetic flow by Siberian indigenous people represented by the N1a1 lineage. If we talk about phenotypic characteristics, Western Europeans have Dolichocephalic skulls more similar to Southern and Middle Eastern Europeans, Eastern Europeans have Brachycephalic skulls slightly more similar to Siberian Indigenous people
@@user-yt3xd2jl6d Western Europeans have Middle Eastern Anatolian Caucasoid DNA. Steppe DNA in far-eastern Europeans associated with Siberia.
I read that Europeans are descended from three ancestral groups to a greater or lesser degree, the Ancient Hunter gatherers (who due were never great in number), Steppe Nomads from what is now the Ukraine and Western Russia and Neolithic Farmers from Anatolia what is now Turkey. In Northern Europe they have more Steppe ancestry, and in Southern more Neolithic farmer but all share the same mix at different levels.
@@eponymousarchon7442 They have now included additional denominators. Pastoralists are the Lower Volga cline. The Middle Stack is the ancestor of Europeans, a mixture of local hunters and the Volga cline, which had or did not have a relationship with the Volga cline, to a greater or lesser extent. Thus, it is far from a fact that western Europeans are related to the original nomads.
Scottish highlanders came from Ireland genetically speaking. I don’t know how the hell you thought they descended from Russians
Very interesting