@@anitaremenarova6662 if you actually have good vigor, you can easily survive. but most "players" are dumb and instead of leveling their vigor to 60, they stop at 40 or lower and put all their points into damage.
@@binhvan4893 If the person's build sucks then yeah, don't forget it also hits twice sometimes so if they have the right buffs you're not surviving anything. 400 is just enough to get smacked for by a single swift roll-catch.
As a co-op player, all I see is Invaders spamming Mesmer's bloody spear AoW, and causing huge AoE damage, area denial and mad poise. Invaders are 100% using broken BS. I've tried invading with dryleaf arts and a themed build, and get deleted. It's not 'Invaders/Hosts unfair' its 'DLC AoWs and weapons are a whole other level of bullshit that everyone is on' lol. Fun, until it's absolutely not.
The best part is just after when you step back and hold the blade to your side, all stylistically. And you're invincible during that cool ass animation.
Red lightning build, the moonlight greatsword, fist to cuffs and now this?! The infinite serpent returns again. Nice to see you in action again oro, love the content.
While I have no doubt this bug will get fixed, I think this weapon will still be a very solid pick for str/fth builds. It’s got the claymore base moveset, and the ash still does a boatload of damage, while its follow-up gives you a safety net if you miss
It is a netcode problem, it isn't gonna be fixed. The "problem" with this weapon is because people just mash, they don't respect it. The ash can easily be countered by rolling away then just punish with anything long range.
I’ve used this in invasions before and it is very good for vigor check IMO without buffs. It’s impossible to survive two hits typically, so people who die instantly definitely need more Vigor.
yall gotta keep in mind that this is, ultimately, a Souls game. even after the inevitable bug fixes, it's never going to be the kind of pvp experience you'd get from Tekken or For Honor still, ome of this stuff gotta get patched
On NG5 and lvl 421 (over leveled to hell when it comes to PvP standards) and max scadu tree blessing and tested a lil Golden Crux build on the fire knight invader and (dmg varies in your level and stat spread) dealt over 10k dmg, 2 hitting him with the crux but the gear I went with is; - GS of Damnation - Deadly Poison Perfume Bottle (buffing tool) - any seal that’s light like Frenzy or Dragon Communion - Mushroom Crown - (Experimenting with) Gravebird’s Blackquill - Rakshasa Gloves - Verdigris Greaves (some poise and defense) - Dagger Talisman - Kindred of Rot’s Exultation - Shard of Alexander - (Experimenting with) Claw Talisman Wonder Physicks has Blood Sucking and Holy-Shroud. Great Rune used is Godrick’s. Incantations being the classics Golden Vow, Blessing of the Erdtree, and Flame Grant Me Strength. Currently going to remove the Grave Bird and Claw Talisman to see if they had any effect to the ash of war. [Update] Both Claw Talisman and Gravebird’s Blackquill doesn’t effect the Ash of War so those could be swapped to have more defensive armor or additional rakshasa armor pieces. [Update again] With an addition of the poisoned hand after using the seal then using the Deadly Poison Spray you’ll triple dip in the damage buff from the Mushroom Crown, and Kindred of Rot Talisman, providing more damage then have a full Rakshasa set and doing the buffs, due to how fast the health drain will be, recommend having the Icon Shield and Blessed Dew Talisman equipped to slow the speed of your health drain.
In before complaints about how all the new weapons are overpowered. Then everyone learns the moveset and it becomes little more than a quaint dud. BUT FOR REAL THIS TIME GUYS!
That's always how it goes, while this shouldn't grab through I-frames the other grabs that have pathetic range and hitbox could use that given their 0 hyperarmor.
People complain all weapons are OP, but only when other people use them against them. When they use them, they suck and the DLC is too hard. The duality of gamer nature.
Biggest thing is that you can't the AoW, so if it connects - it connects. This may or may not get patched. But if it does, then this weapon is going to be a lot worse.
People acting as if Oro hasnt been breaking souls games since DS1 with the moonlight falshion build. Elden ring will NEVER be perfectly balanced because it's literally impossible.
@@AroPnut but like, why? why does this need to get nerfed, there are way more broken things in the game then this sword, and as long as you actually level your vigor (which most host don't do) you can easily survive the AOW, yes I know the grab hitbox is kinda wild, but it is not unavoidable, as long as you don't panic roll.
@@Invader_Hex the grab range is pathetic, the only time you are gonna get grabbed is either spamming and rushing the invader or rolling for ward instead of backward.
@@Invader_Hex its a fun invasion tool that can catch people off guard, but if they are keeping an eye on you and continue strafing, its not gonna hit that often.
Talisman/Cracked Tear Damage Update: I don't know if its due to a recent update but I just ran some tests and the dagger talisman provides 0 damage increase for the grab. Also its worth nothing holy damage multipliers effect the grab and aoe damage. Damage on the Storm Shack Rams Test: (Identical Build except I have extra mind as I am 214) 1918/1576 (no talismans) 2251/1849 (shard of Alexander) 2334/1915 (shard of Alexander and sacred scorpion) 2489/2039 (shard/scorpion + holy shroud cracked tear) 2987/2447(shard/scorpion + holy shroud / bloodsucking cracked tear) 3866/3172 (all of the above + erdtree, golden vow and flame grant me strength) You should definitely swap the light roll cracked tear for the holy shroud one and also incorporate the sacred scorpion talisman instead of the dagger talisman. I personally am removing the blade of mercy in favor of 2h talisman/dragon crest talisman.
I think that the issue with this weapon catching people in a roll is cause of latency, similar to how when you roll a bleed proc it will stun you but bot hurt. While this is a full on grab and a will still kill a player if it connects with latent players.
have you considered using dragon form and blue dancer talisman ? I think that in most cases it does provide even more damage potential than the Rakshasa, especially with light weapons
Not worth the defense hit, 3/4 Raksasha pieces still provide a decent damage boost while not reducing your absorptions to nothing. I prefer running just 2 pieces to stay at 30% absorption, things hurt in this DLC.
There is no meta level for invasions or pve. RL 200 is fun because at that level, there's a lot of one shots. RL 150 is perfectly fine for a build. The dueling meta is RL 125 and has been since release and that won't change, although I don't think he really cares about the meta. Oro actually answered this on Twitch yesterday because someone else also asked him this.
am i the only one who is missing the holy tear and holy scorpion talisman for this? you can literally swap the healing talisman for the scorpion which gives you 20% buff in holy damage and the swap to a better armor with more resistances alsp replace the winged tear for the holy tear and you might dont even need the buffs or the other dagger talisman that increases your damage just saying, it is missing a lot of damage
Been watching you for years, even got kids now, where is time going...All I wanted to say is that it seems like your always in your "element" and "at home" with the souls games, I know its elden ring blah blah. I've always gotten a kick out of your gameplay with these games, your an OG, glad your still making content! You need to collaborate with Mr. Peeve and get some duos in man! Thanks again!
could this be the counter to swift slash? or would the slash stun you out of the grab? maybe you can combine it with fatroll poise with poise tear and talisman or something?
@@anitaremenarova6662 well a swift slash isnt running anywhere they are just spamming the AOW. If they are spamming the AOW they have no choice but to trade with it. Do you know what swift slash is??
@@numbingcactus153 And the spam often just leaves you nowhere near the other player. Maybe if they're monkey mashing with no brain you could manage to land it but don't count on it being consistent and definitely not against people who know anything about spacing.
For anyone looking to min max. 63 str is a waste. At 54 str 2 handed, you get the equivalent of having 81 or so str, which is the best possible damage you can get. 63 str is unnecessary. Thanks for the video oro
Obviously a billion things are busted in the dlc but this feels specifically nasty. The mental amount of s, damage, aoe, gap close, and hyper armor is honestly mental haha. If you remvoe the s and the hyperarmor i think it would actually be balanced. If it gets nerfed just remove or lower those two things and itll be fine.
This build will deal at most 1200 dmg even after buff, so its useless in the last pvp bracket or level 301+ because it goes all the way to level 713 and at that point player have more than 1200 hp. If want a critical focused ez invasion build its best to just use unseen form + assassin gambit to make you untargettable and backstab the host multiple time in row maybe throw in the darkness spell after the backstab in case you to rebuff mid fight and maybe a executionner greataxe with the kick ash of war for use against shield
Nope. I-frames prevent the hit from the sword itself but it will still grab you if you're anywhere near the hitbox. That's why when you watch it in action sometimes it hits twice and other times it only hits on the crit. But the crit alone is enough to kill. It's absolutely monstrous.
It's a latency thing, sometimes it registers as failed while grabbing anyways which results in the initial hit. It's what happens on regular PvE since you can only grab player-like entities with it so otherwise you just get the small damage burst.
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Babe wake up, new Vigor Inspector just dropped.
This is RL200, not even 99 vigor will save you lmao
@@anitaremenarova6662you literally see people surviving in the video
@@anitaremenarova6662 if you actually have good vigor, you can easily survive. but most "players" are dumb and instead of leveling their vigor to 60, they stop at 40 or lower and put all their points into damage.
@@anitaremenarova6662 It deals around 1k5 max, which means you still have like 400 hp left to roll back and heal.
@@binhvan4893 If the person's build sucks then yeah, don't forget it also hits twice sometimes so if they have the right buffs you're not surviving anything. 400 is just enough to get smacked for by a single swift roll-catch.
There is a sick, twisted satisfaction I feel when those thorns errupt from the victims. Its wonderful and horrible.
Bro its terrifying when someone just got stabbed and then the thorns errupt. Totally brutal 💀
I don’t know if berserker is as appropriate as EXECUTIONER
VIGOR CHECKER
@@GraytheGrey valid
I adore how it makes you walk back after the command grab like you just got an M1 😂🎉
Finally, the player can be a bossfight.
You got a Carbine? A Macbook? A DBD smack? NOT EVERYONE KNOWS THE JARGON MAN
this sword is so cool that i forgive them for not having any armor associated with that boss
rakshasa's armor looks so goddamn good
It looks sorta like a bloodied Alonne Knight armor with cloth added
Looks like the Broody Crow from Bloodborne
@@MrsAikahimei was thinking the same thing, they arent the same but the silhouette and style are very similar
6:35 You're on your own i am not fighting that
i think he tried to bait oro to fall off with him
Dawg at 6:35 said "pfft, this is a you program, buddy!" And jumped off, lmao.
Lmao the one dude, “at least let me go die at my grace”
The problem I'm having with all these broken invader builds is that, as an invader, this is the shit gankers use.
I've been swift slashing swift slash ganks on my pyro build. You just havt to do it better.
@@redrum1096 gankers have also discovered Swift Slash. You can have up to 3 of them flying at you like you're fighting Ichigo in his Bankai
As a co-op player, all I see is Invaders spamming Mesmer's bloody spear AoW, and causing huge AoE damage, area denial and mad poise.
Invaders are 100% using broken BS. I've tried invading with dryleaf arts and a themed build, and get deleted.
It's not 'Invaders/Hosts unfair' its 'DLC AoWs and weapons are a whole other level of bullshit that everyone is on' lol. Fun, until it's absolutely not.
@@TechbotALPHA Fight Messmer and that AoW is literally just theatrics. Messmer's Spear would not even be top 5 in the most broken stuff.
The best part is just after when you step back and hold the blade to your side, all stylistically. And you're invincible during that cool ass animation.
I summoned Oro the other day, and he led us to a dead end roof and jumped off and died 😂
6:30 Bro saw that insta kill and said “O-On Second thought m-maybe no fighting today” 😂😂
Imagine turning your enemy into a golden Christmas tree. Miyazaki you’ve done it again
That thing is so evil, I love it 😂
LMAO I like how that one host already agreed he's dead and ran back to the grace like "ok I'm ready to go now"
Red lightning build, the moonlight greatsword, fist to cuffs and now this?! The infinite serpent returns again. Nice to see you in action again oro, love the content.
While I have no doubt this bug will get fixed, I think this weapon will still be a very solid pick for str/fth builds. It’s got the claymore base moveset, and the ash still does a boatload of damage, while its follow-up gives you a safety net if you miss
Even if the bug doesn’t get fixed, it really isn’t that good of a weapon imo. aow can be countered easily with any kind of range.
The ash will never land if you can simply it. So then the claymore outclasses this weapon by alot.
It is a netcode problem, it isn't gonna be fixed. The "problem" with this weapon is because people just mash, they don't respect it. The ash can easily be countered by rolling away then just punish with anything long range.
They'll make it a non pick. Meanwhile, moonveil is still moonveil.
@@cherdnad2630Fromsoft has made workable grabs that account for lag in the game already. They'll likely patch the bugged hitbox in the coming patch
7:51 Both player leaping to clash in the air is so sick.
If you do the follow-up when someone else has the same weapon and does the aow, it knocks them out of the air.
5:30 this is a spoiler free zone 🤣
10:23 the immediate pivot to the blue lmao
It's that same visceral satisfaction as death blight.
WHAT ARE THOSE IFRAMES!
That armor looks like the Alonne knights set
I’ve used this in invasions before and it is very good for vigor check IMO without buffs. It’s impossible to survive two hits typically, so people who die instantly definitely need more Vigor.
The music in the fight you get this from is insanely good
"Elden ring pvp is much better than ds3 guys, it feels much more 3 dimensional" 😂
As a longtime viewer, i’m amazed by the comments of people criticizing oro’s choice of a reckless and cheap build
They’re not gonna be doing any boss fights with how busted their insides are.🐱
thats what he said
yall gotta keep in mind that this is, ultimately, a Souls game. even after the inevitable bug fixes, it's never going to be the kind of pvp experience you'd get from Tekken or For Honor
still, ome of this stuff gotta get patched
I hope to god we never get anything like for honor, game is fucking miserable to play anymore
Isso não precisa ser mercado só esquivar no momento certo
I honestly think the greatsword of damnation is pretty balanced
"Like For Honor" 😂😂😂
Elden Ring is barely a Souls game. The Souls games didn't have a fraction of the one shot potential and L2 spam
On NG5 and lvl 421 (over leveled to hell when it comes to PvP standards) and max scadu tree blessing and tested a lil Golden Crux build on the fire knight invader and (dmg varies in your level and stat spread) dealt over 10k dmg, 2 hitting him with the crux but the gear I went with is;
- GS of Damnation
- Deadly Poison Perfume Bottle (buffing tool)
- any seal that’s light like Frenzy or Dragon Communion
- Mushroom Crown
- (Experimenting with) Gravebird’s Blackquill
- Rakshasa Gloves
- Verdigris Greaves (some poise and defense)
- Dagger Talisman
- Kindred of Rot’s Exultation
- Shard of Alexander
- (Experimenting with) Claw Talisman
Wonder Physicks has Blood Sucking and Holy-Shroud.
Great Rune used is Godrick’s.
Incantations being the classics Golden Vow, Blessing of the Erdtree, and Flame Grant Me Strength.
Currently going to remove the Grave Bird and Claw Talisman to see if they had any effect to the ash of war.
[Update]
Both Claw Talisman and Gravebird’s Blackquill doesn’t effect the Ash of War so those could be swapped to have more defensive armor or additional rakshasa armor pieces.
[Update again]
With an addition of the poisoned hand after using the seal then using the Deadly Poison Spray you’ll triple dip in the damage buff from the Mushroom Crown, and Kindred of Rot Talisman, providing more damage then have a full Rakshasa set and doing the buffs, due to how fast the health drain will be, recommend having the Icon Shield and Blessed Dew Talisman equipped to slow the speed of your health drain.
This is fucking brutal. The Kebab build lmfao.
I thought the grab scales off faith not strength. And the swords normal attacks scale off strength
In before complaints about how all the new weapons are overpowered.
Then everyone learns the moveset and it becomes little more than a quaint dud. BUT FOR REAL THIS TIME GUYS!
That's always how it goes, while this shouldn't grab through I-frames the other grabs that have pathetic range and hitbox could use that given their 0 hyperarmor.
People complain all weapons are OP, but only when other people use them against them. When they use them, they suck and the DLC is too hard. The duality of gamer nature.
>swift slash
Biggest thing is that you can't the AoW, so if it connects - it connects. This may or may not get patched. But if it does, then this weapon is going to be a lot worse.
You can just run away from this attack
It’s fitting how this build’s aesthetics matches how evil it is.
People acting as if Oro hasnt been breaking souls games since DS1 with the moonlight falshion build. Elden ring will NEVER be perfectly balanced because it's literally impossible.
Plus this will probably get nerfed eventually.
@@AroPnut but like, why? why does this need to get nerfed, there are way more broken things in the game then this sword, and as long as you actually level your vigor (which most host don't do) you can easily survive the AOW, yes I know the grab hitbox is kinda wild, but it is not unavoidable, as long as you don't panic roll.
@@Invader_Hex the grab range is pathetic, the only time you are gonna get grabbed is either spamming and rushing the invader or rolling for ward instead of backward.
@@binhvan4893 exactly, it is not as broken as people think. now that new thorn spell on the other hand...
@@Invader_Hex its a fun invasion tool that can catch people off guard, but if they are keeping an eye on you and continue strafing, its not gonna hit that often.
Should the meta level be pushed to 200 instead of 150?
Talisman/Cracked Tear Damage Update:
I don't know if its due to a recent update but I just ran some tests and the dagger talisman provides 0 damage increase for the grab. Also its worth nothing holy damage multipliers effect the grab and aoe damage.
Damage on the Storm Shack Rams Test: (Identical Build except I have extra mind as I am 214)
1918/1576 (no talismans)
2251/1849 (shard of Alexander)
2334/1915 (shard of Alexander and sacred scorpion)
2489/2039 (shard/scorpion + holy shroud cracked tear)
2987/2447(shard/scorpion + holy shroud / bloodsucking cracked tear)
3866/3172 (all of the above + erdtree, golden vow and flame grant me strength)
You should definitely swap the light roll cracked tear for the holy shroud one and also incorporate the sacred scorpion talisman instead of the dagger talisman. I personally am removing the blade of mercy in favor of 2h talisman/dragon crest talisman.
Swift Slash has never felt so good to counter
Grab attacks are so cool, I love this one!
I think that the issue with this weapon catching people in a roll is cause of latency, similar to how when you roll a bleed proc it will stun you but bot hurt. While this is a full on grab and a will still kill a player if it connects with latent players.
Correct although it’s fixed hitbox wise now, you just roll past them instead of away
Is this sword from the boss in the spooky forest with the yellow freaks?
He's in a castle but yes, the incant you get from him is sick too.
Can you do a build with either one of the Cirque weapons with magic grease and just make Tron discs?
Bro wtf I was just binge watching your old elden ring invasion vids!
have you considered using dragon form and blue dancer talisman ? I think that in most cases it does provide even more damage potential than the Rakshasa, especially with light weapons
Not worth the defense hit, 3/4 Raksasha pieces still provide a decent damage boost while not reducing your absorptions to nothing. I prefer running just 2 pieces to stay at 30% absorption, things hurt in this DLC.
Seems like holy dmg
Still waiting for Dior Sauvage invasions for the guaranteed one shots
Did try it tonight and it was hella fun
"the grab cannot be dodged with s"
9:24 : *s it*
how many times will the devs make an "oopsie"
Oro do you recommend 200 for both invasions and duels? I've been considering going up from 150 but I'm afraid of losing quick duel time ques.
Aaaah, finally, wood style Madara is here.
"I have the better L2" literally sums up Elden Ring PVP since launch.
Is 200 RL is new meta after dlcs? Thinking to lv up my main 150 RL lv to Ng+3 for PvE and sometimes dual and invasion.
No, it's the RL if you like a PvP environment where everyone including you gets one-shot constantly.
@@anitaremenarova6662 k, will stay in 150 RL. How about 170 RL. The dps in PvP still insane?
@@costa1148 Go 166 so you can stay connect to 150 players and you should see plenty of activity.
@@costa1148go to 168 if you wanna go above 150
There is no meta level for invasions or pve. RL 200 is fun because at that level, there's a lot of one shots. RL 150 is perfectly fine for a build. The dueling meta is RL 125 and has been since release and that won't change, although I don't think he really cares about the meta. Oro actually answered this on Twitch yesterday because someone else also asked him this.
Vlad Tepes learnt how to impale from Oroboro.
Oro! Have you tried Leda's Sword in pvp yet? I've been invading with it on Xbox and hot damn lol I love it.
That great sword is a giver of headache’s.
am i the only one who is missing the holy tear and holy scorpion talisman for this?
you can literally swap the healing talisman for the scorpion which gives you 20% buff in holy damage and the swap to a better armor with more resistances
alsp replace the winged tear for the holy tear and you might dont even need the buffs or the other dagger talisman that increases your damage
just saying, it is missing a lot of damage
I used it the first time and felt like a Frenzy lord 💀🗣️
6:33 They were just trying to enjoy the DLC, poor guys
Are a lot of players rune level 200? I'm currently 181 and was wondering where the most people are at so I can match the most
200 is balance for invasion
Working as intended, no nerfs needed…
finally, golden crocs
So I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong. I have the same setup with higher stats and I'm only hitting max 1600
Well shit, I thought I was overleveled pvp wise at 180 but I guess 200 is a sweet spot now, or does level not matter too much anymore?
Been watching you for years, even got kids now, where is time going...All I wanted to say is that it seems like your always in your "element" and "at home" with the souls games, I know its elden ring blah blah. I've always gotten a kick out of your gameplay with these games, your an OG, glad your still making content! You need to collaborate with Mr. Peeve and get some duos in man! Thanks again!
could this be the counter to swift slash? or would the slash stun you out of the grab? maybe you can combine it with fatroll poise with poise tear and talisman or something?
Sure it "counters" it if they're stupid enough to run into the grab.
@@anitaremenarova6662 well a swift slash isnt running anywhere they are just spamming the AOW. If they are spamming the AOW they have no choice but to trade with it. Do you know what swift slash is??
@@numbingcactus153 And the spam often just leaves you nowhere near the other player. Maybe if they're monkey mashing with no brain you could manage to land it but don't count on it being consistent and definitely not against people who know anything about spacing.
What's the best way to play pvp, every time I try I attempt to do it forever
Rune level 200
Dang that sword is something else 😮
The vit-o-matic vigor tester
oro is an absolute savage in this video. is this part of the berserker lore?
Golden Crux my beloved.
Eat sheeeaiiit NPC’s
I've gotten really into Lightning Strike, just flattens anyone airborne.
im guessing you could make this build even meaner with blessed dew and icon shield
For anyone looking to min max. 63 str is a waste. At 54 str 2 handed, you get the equivalent of having 81 or so str, which is the best possible damage you can get. 63 str is unnecessary. Thanks for the video oro
This video focuses on just spamming the grab, weapon skills don't receive two-handed bonus.
Obviously a billion things are busted in the dlc but this feels specifically nasty. The mental amount of s, damage, aoe, gap close, and hyper armor is honestly mental haha. If you remvoe the s and the hyperarmor i think it would actually be balanced. If it gets nerfed just remove or lower those two things and itll be fine.
This build will deal at most 1200 dmg even after buff, so its useless in the last pvp bracket or level 301+ because it goes all the way to level 713 and at that point player have more than 1200 hp.
If want a critical focused ez invasion build its best to just use unseen form + assassin gambit to make you untargettable and backstab the host multiple time in row maybe throw in the darkness spell after the backstab in case you to rebuff mid fight and maybe a executionner greataxe with the kick ash of war for use against shield
are invasions at 200 really popular?
They was even before dlc, now for invasions you wanna at least 150, better a bit higher or straight to 200
Idk why Messmer got the impaler title instead of this guy
3 min intro is wild
Yeah I knew this weapon would be op lol
Honestly though. A way to just outright shut down L2 ganker spam is a welcome addition in my opinion.
Does the 2-handing talisman boost the grab damage?
No
When did Darius from LoL come to elden ring.
What was that moan at 11:42 😂
Once a rivers spammer always a rivers spammer. This guy smells like cheese.
🍼👶
Yet he outclasses 90% of us
I wish I could get the bots that you're fighting when i invade
lot of these dlc weapons are "you cant win: the game"
Forgive me, my good sir but…im gonna have to steal that build 😈
Dang. You should probably be able to dodge that with I frames, right? That seems a little too strong.
Nope. I-frames prevent the hit from the sword itself but it will still grab you if you're anywhere near the hitbox. That's why when you watch it in action sometimes it hits twice and other times it only hits on the crit. But the crit alone is enough to kill. It's absolutely monstrous.
Nah, you can definitely dodge the whole thing.
Been doing it all day.
the fibromyalgia greatsword
Finally a grab attack 🙏
Do we know why the grab sometimes hits once and other times hits twice?
It's a latency thing, sometimes it registers as failed while grabbing anyways which results in the initial hit. It's what happens on regular PvE since you can only grab player-like entities with it so otherwise you just get the small damage burst.
Bro, it’s 200 the new meta-for the new DLC
What breed of one-shot is this?
C.A.N….C.A.N.C.E.R…sing with me…
Plenty of chucklefucks spam this and get outranged and punished, this is far from the worst thing this dlc has to offer. No clue what you're on about.
6:35 😂😂😂 WTF!!???
Thanks maestro ❤
how to optimize this in a lvl139 build?
Did the meta level change to 200...?? I must have missed that memo if it did, but didnt it used to be 150..???
For dueling its 125-150, invasion is what ever
@@stevshaboba7476Then is co-op a bit more consistent at 200?, or 150 do most people stay at is my question?
@@Drivaawwrrr No, vast majority of people are still at around 150 even after finishing the DLC.
For duels it’s 125-150.
@anitaremenarova6662 OK thank you, I do more co-op to help with bosses than pvp anyway
Im assuming a defense to this is to just use ranged attacks?
Range, spacing well timed rolls, the hitbox has been fixed so it’s dodgable now