Mindanao Railway Project: No China? No problem
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 3 ธ.ค. 2023
- How the Philippines intends to replace China as an ODA funder for the Mindanao Railway Project, and latest updates on other aspects of the railway.
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Look for other funding, not from China. Japan is very willing to help without strings attached and low-interest rates. Other European countries are also willing to help explore and not just be contented with China.
Yes yes. Yes❤❤❤
promising sana ang japanese mabilis gumawa.. kaso play safe din kasi ang Japan sa mga ODA nila.. need makapasa mga feasibility studies nila kung magiging profitable ba talaga in the long run.. kaya ayaw din nila kunin yun Bicol long haul e..
What about Indonesia?
Hello! Thanks for sharing this video on the progress. I am not a Mindanaoan, but I am for the progress of the country. I believe, Mindanaoans deserve their very first railway...for the ease and comfort of travel of our beloved kababayans! Thankful that it is now gathering steam to proceed. It may take time, at least, for me, it has started...and of course, I think, South Korea and Japan offer great alternative in the financial aspect of this project.
Good luck to South Korean and the Japanese !
South Korea and Japan are not the only options
If Europe Funded:
1. Stadler Flirt 3
2. Stadler KISS
3. Stadler Giruno
4. Siemens Velaro Novo
5. Siemens Vectron
6. Siemens Mireo
7. Siemens Taurus
Okay looking forward for japan. Wag na sokor. Mas best ang japan railway
Ang problema ng Japan ay over exposed na sila sa Pilipinas dahil sa dami ng projects na underway na. Ang sokor, bago lang nila tinaasan ang credit limit para sa Pilipinas. Abangan
USA will finance
When the Filipino let the American to station its military personel in and around the Phillippines and installed all kind of missiles defense pointing at China and they still have South China Sea disputes with China, It is kind of ODD for the Chinese to build any kind of infrastructures in the Phillippines soil. I DON'T THINK THE CHINESE WILL DO IT BECAUSE OF THE MAJOR INFRASSTRUCTURE COMPANIES ARE OWNED AND OPERATED BY THEIR GOVERNMENT. NO CHINA, THERE WILL BIG PROBLEM FOR THE PHILLIPPINES, WHO WANT TO LEND YOUR MONEY WHEN YOU STILL HAVE MANY DISPUTS WITH THE CHINESE WITH LITTLE INTEREST.....IN CASE OF THIS REPORTER DOESN'T KNOW OR THE FILIPINO GOVERNMENT DOESN'T KNOW, MAJORITY OF THE CHINESE BANKS ARE ALSO OWNED AND OPERATED BY THE CHINESE GOVERNMENT.
China was slow even during the days of the Duterte administration when he was actually bending over backwards to be friendly with China. China FAILURE to respond actually happened before the current administration. China should think about IT'S OWN actions that led the Philippines to is current course.
@@mindanaorailway Palpak, nagpakatuta sa China. Of all the countries na pwedeng kaibiganin at pagkatiwaan China pa talaga lol. Anyway, kung mangyayari man ang project na 'to siguro phase 1 lang kasi yan ang pinakapraktikal... Bukod sa Tagum-Davao-Digos, kasama na rin dyan ang Panabo, Carmen at Sta Cruz, not to mention end to end ng Davao City aka priority/center (Bunawan/Lasang - Toril). Malabong mabuo ang entire project. Masyadong ambitious at unrealistic, kung mabubuo man siguro sa next century pa. If anything marami lang napwerhesyong property owners dahil sa uncertainty at yong mga bayad na sayang ang lupa mababa ang kuha. Imagine value ng lupa nila in the coming years kung wala ang drawing na to.
@@mindanaorailway Kung gusto ng mga Duterte gawing parang Metro Manila/NCR ang Davao/Mindanao magfocus na lang dapat sila sa urbanization ng Phase 1. Watak watak kasi tong mga cities and municipality sa Mindanao, ang lalayo sa isa't isa, even Davao Region. Phase 1 ang pinakapraktikal na idevelop kasi malapit lang sa Davao City. Pag maurbanize or madevelop sya maraming maaattract na citizens at magkukumpulan dyan mga tao like sa NCR.
@@piikapiikaang Phase 1 pa lang talaga ang na approve na. Proposal pa lang ang Phase 3. Ang Phase 2, na mula Digos-GenSan-Koronadal, ay hindi pa rin finalized
If only China just obey the laws, then Philippines wouldn't even need to have American military stationed there.
But then, China is a nation that is at conflict with nearly every neighbor.
Why should we trust China?
Sino ang mag funding sa Mindanao railway?
See timestamp 9:07 in this video for the candidates
Maaring may tampo lamang sa atin Ang china Dahil sa EDCA ,dahil noon panahon ni PDU30 Wala Yan EDCA gusto pa nga niya palayasin yan Visiting Forces ng mga canoto dito sa atin Bansa.
Syempre lahat yan e loan sa Maharlika investment fund yan ang source, dati ADB,noong nakaraan pumunta dyan yung prime Minister ng at nagloan ng $87B at inoffer ni PBbm ang Maharlika investment fund, at yung loan na yan sa loob ng Pilipinas e invest hindi sa labas ng bansa, Ganon din yung Saudi nag loan nakaraan inoffer din ni PBbm ang Maharlika investment fund,
i've been following this project since 2013 since pnoy admin contemplated on building this but with china backing out i don't think this can even start construction under BBM admin dahil back to square one ito same goes to the bicol long haul funded by china
dahil ang feasibility studies nyan eh china ang gumawa panibagong study na naman yan ng kung sino mang mapipili na gagawa nito ni hindi pa nga nakakapili kung sino papalit this will take years
decade ko na itong sinusubaybayan ang updates kaumay na
kakalungkot lang na pinag iwanan na talaga ang pilipinas, malaysia , vietnam, thailand under construction na ang High speed rail nila while laos and indonesia tapos na tayo still back to drawing board
It is not back to square one. The current effort to build the railway was restarted during the Ramos administration. Continued during the Erap and Arroyo administrations. Significant developments, however, didn't start till Duterte and actually continue to this day despite China's unreliability. Payments have been made and properties have already been zoned as public utilities. The first NEDA approved phase actually happened during Duterte's time and the DOTr is sticking to it till today
@@mindanaorailway yang NEDA aprpoval na yan pagkakaalam ko pag ang project ay hindi natuloy kailangan yang ireapprove dahil maraming magbabago, sa cost palang ng railway iba na, so study na naman yan kasi iba na ang gagawa, tapos yung feasibility study na ginawa ng china for ilang years at least yung sa bicol express ewan ko lang kung meron na sa mindanao railway, yan ay maiiscrap at panibago na namang feasibility studies yan ( of course kung japan gagawa hindi papayag ang mga yan na sa china galing ang feasibility studies) pero bago yan masimulan kailangan yung loan at gagawa meron na so hangga't wala pa tenga rin yang feasibility studies hindi pa yan masisimulan
eh sa bidding pa lang kung sino gagawa it could take 1 to 2 years kung mabagal talaga naabot pa ng 6 years!, pero bago pa yan ibid dapat may loan na eh ni hindi pa nga alam kung kanino tayo magloloan at magkano it will also take years eh ano na ngayon 2024 na kailan lang ba yan naiscrap yang mga china deals
kung iba gagawa it will take years panibagong plano na naman yan
so dahil naiscrap yung mga china deals at bago ulit expect to start construction of this railways mga 2028 or beyond pa after BBM marami pang butas ng karayom susuutin nito
binabase ko lang naman ito sa mga dating infra projects since pnoy at duterte kung gaano kabilis
@@har7102 the only part that NEDA needs to re-approve is the amount of the ODA. The approval of the project itself remains unchanged. Tuloy na tuloy ang project.
@@mindanaorailway Mindanao railway project up for NEDA review
The government is evaluating anew the Mindanao Railway project to update costs and potential ridership, with the possibility of shifting financing mode to include the private sector, instead of purely loans.
The Department of Transportation (DOTr) said there is a need to review the detailed engineering design of the project and given the delay, it might have to go back to the National Economic and Development Authority (NEDA) for updating.
Bautista said the DOTr would immediately start updating the feasibility study and targets to finish it within the year.
“We are just awaiting the updated feasibility study of the project then we can discuss the best way to procure the project,” Recto added.
told you so, after a year pa bago matapos feasibility study so that's 2025 jan pa lang sila magsisimulang magplano kung paano iprocure
tuloy yan pero di yan masisimulan ang construction sa panahon ni BBM sure ako jan
@@har7102payments have already been made. Outright cancellation of the project is not an option. BTW, this project was around before PNoy.
Sana m as maisali din edsa Mindanao at central Mindanao expressway
Get used to walking.
Why?
@@mindanaorailway Japan's bid will be too high for the Philippines government. The interest on the Korean loan will be too much to pay, plus Korea has little experience in infra of this magnitude. China has pulled out. Who else is left? German? France?
@@whiteknuckles China offered an interest rate of 3%. If you actually watched the video before commenting, you'd have known that. Japan's rates have historically been less than 1%. Same goes for South Korea. Who else? Watch the video.
@@whiteknucklesKorail is a version of High speed train in Korea and MRT 7 trains are made Hyundai from Korea! So you’re an idiot for thinking Korea has little known expertise in railway! need to buy new brain! L🤣l
@@mindanaorailway Did Japan and Korea ACTUALLY offer 1%? If they did, why did the Philippines choose China in the first place? Indeed, who else. The Indian HSR partnered with Japan is a good example. Fools never learn. Good luck with your HSR. Get used to walking.
Pinabayaan na tlaga ang mindanao. Loslos!!
Anong pinabayaan? 2021 pa delayed ang funding, alangan naman maghintay sa wala.
Ayaw nila mag pondo, e di hanap ng iba.
@@ianhomerpura8937 Kung ikaw ba ang china itutuloy mo pa given the situation we have right now?? Yung foreign policy kase ng admin ngayon sobrang contrast sa kung anong policy meron ang previous admin. Kaya di mo sila masisi bakit.
@@Jennifer-qs7xr si Duterte pa lang ang nakaupo, delayed na. 2021 pa lang.