I learned how to use PC on EC-1842 in 1990. I was 6 and it was so greatful for me. After ZX Spectrum MS-DOS and Norton Commander was "cosmic technology"!!!! 😂😎😉
This is about computers at the beginning of the video, where high school students study or junior students of higher education. It doesn't say anything that it's a PC. The story about the EU 1840 starts at 11:20.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ES_PEVM
@@monocharismatic you seem to have learned to read, but not to think. The title of the video contains the text "ES PEVM IBM PCs". Read the text, It is written exactly "IBM PC". Not just a PC. fr_schmidlin correctly notes that it sees many non-IBM PC computers. And I told him that there is near the and of video an IBM PC compatible computer of the ES series, built on a Soviet clone of Intel's processor. PEVM = ПЭВМ = Персональная Электронная Вычислительная Машина = personal electronic computer = PC
@@MomentalnoVMore ah, I see. Can't think, that's for sure. 😉 The stock description that PeriscopeFilm entered for these two reels does say IBM PC, which is incorrect even if the footage shows something 8086/8088 compatible but no actual IBMs. And there seem to be two reels in this scan one with a show of variety of personal computers (Yamaha, clones, ПЭВМ, etc) and a second reel with "mainframes" for centralized computing. But then who knows what clerk has come up with the description, most likely that's the name it came with to Periscope. All depends on where they acquire the reels and what for. I would say that they are more about selling stock footage and not so much about being an archive grade historic library. They seem to have a mix of propaganda and ancient news reels, I guess whatever they can get their hands on.
@@monocharismatic I think you want too much from them. Most likely there is no second mystical part. Most likely the beginning of the film is damaged and the title of the film is not known. Therefore, the employee had to come up with something based on his knowledge and knowledge of the language. I watched other films about computers from that time. There is a similar film from this studio in 1987, it is almost 19 minutes long. There is a 1977 film, which is also 19 minutes with a few seconds.
I think this is near 1986. ES 1840 1986 year, ES 1841 1987 year. I was 4 year at this time. My father at this time work in computer center, developed the LISP compiler. And in the end proof of my prediction.
The Soviet Union has a highly qualified computer-electronics human resource base, they develop many famous and influential electronic computer platforms such as ELBRUS. The Soviet Union itself could create specialized computers for each branch and field of science - industrial or military production. But, unfortunately, the stagnation of Khruschev as well as Brezhnev did not allow them to create a computer industry, as well as perfect the computing industry - the forerunner of the software industry. They failed to come up with the common standards of their computer industry to influence, commercialize and apply them. But, it can also be noted, in the period after the collapse of the Soviet Union, many Soviet engineers and computer experts were valued and appreciated by the US, Japan and the West for their intellectuals and abilities, and they also helped the world's computer-software industry make a lot of progress from the 1990s to the 2000s.
You are absolutely right. They were far ahead of their time. Look at how early they invented the satellite and had it in space almost a decade before anyone else. We rely on that technology now type these comments. Indeed after Stalin, starting with Krushchev, all began to decline very quickly.
We did. Just this is an educational movie distributed to schools on films 🎥 . I remember at school we watched a lot of those on classroom screens. Chemistry, physics, history class rooms were equipped with film projectors and screens. I don’t remember if those films were in colour, I guess black and white. I remember that in the school conference hall we watched colour movies but those were full/tv movies usually based on classic literature. Later after the classes we watched there Disney cartoons just after the iron curtain went down. It was quite entertaining ;)
It would be interesting if you could enable the TH-cam auto-translation facility for this video, since I don't speak Russian. TH-cam doesn't either, but it thinks it does, with usually amusing and sometimes informative results.
And that gigantic HDD he loads. That is a “1MB” HDD that cost between $10,000 and $25,000, depending on how “new” it was. Now... We can get 1,000,000,000,000,000x that memory for the same price. The “Soundtrack” during the demonstration of the plotter is lifted from Ultravox.
The beginning of the soundtrack is a rip-off of Jean-Michelle Jarre’s “Oxygen” Album, from the late-1970s. I have not recognized the other elements of the Soundtrack... But the “Synthesizer” they demonstrate is a rip-off of a Western Synthesizer developed for the first Macintosh.
USSR was about centralized computing, I am surprised to see these PCs in the film, they must have been a super rarity, meaning this is a propaganda film. Jean Michelle Jarre and Kraftwerk. Both were very popular.
@@monocharismatic no need to tell your capitalistic tales. by the beginning of the 80s, everything became clear even in the USSR. And "for some reason" (which was not in your opinion) developed an analogue of the 8086 from 1982-1985. So we can say that the era of "IBM PC" began in the USSR in 1986. ES computers were produced somewhere around 110 thousand from 1986 to 1991.
@@monocharismatic в СССР всю жизнь закупали что-то за границей, а потом делали тоже самое но только дешевле. В этом ролике ни чего про домашние компьютеры не говорится. В СССР коммунистическая партия что-то говорила конкретно что в каждый дом по ES ПЭВМ в близжайщую пятилетку? Ну как я уже писал, сняли его в год когда только началось прозводство ES-ком. А то что это пропаганда. А что пропаганды капиталистической нет? Вот сколько я живу в условиях капитализма. Вижу телепередачи про ламборджини, феррари, бугатти и кучу всяких других автор. Что в США, Великобритании, Германии любой гражданин их может купить? Они дорогие и их делают 2-3 тыс в год на всю планету. Если нет, значит это кап. пропаганда, по вашей логике.
@@MomentalnoVMore Грустно это всё. Запад хотел уничтожить СССР с самого начала его существования. Поэтому Советские достижения даже ещё больше похвальны и впечатляемы.
Yeah, not much Soviet PCs in those days. The ones that were available weren't available to general public, hence the ZX Spectrum clones boom in late 80's - early 90's.
This means that in the Soviet Union they began to do this earlier than in the progressive west. Nowadays they are programming with a computer every day. :)
Yes. I imagine there used to be centralized computing in Cyrillic, otherwise English is right. Must have been driven by standards like ASCII (long since replaced by Unicode).
13:00 and so on A Motorola 68K with Ferranti Uncommitted Logic Arrays ... wow and something which looks like a chip by VLSI Technology Inc. in the lower left corner... A Soviet one kopeck coin on an M68K make strange bedfellows XD XD XD
Where do you see a MC68000? It has a Rockwell 6502 microprocessor. The only motorola chip i see in this clip is a MC6854, which is not a microprocessor but a peripheral chip for serial communication.
At that time in the 80’s the Soviet Government told the Public they were Technologically Far Superior than the USA and the Rest of the World but in Actuality they were 17-20+ years Seriously Behind with the Exception of Particular Super Computer in 1975 Apollo/Soyuz test Flight their Super computer beat an American Super Computer by 30 minutes in a Orbital Rendezvous Maneuver computation.Then came the American 1976 CRAY supercomputers which held their Ground for over 20 years.
I shall watch for the motherland
For the motherboard you mean.
And the closing soundtrack??
It is taken from the Microprose Star Trek video game from about 1979/80.
I learned how to use PC on EC-1842 in 1990. I was 6 and it was so greatful for me. After ZX Spectrum MS-DOS and Norton Commander was "cosmic technology"!!!! 😂😎😉
Just a correction: those are not IBM PCs. They're Yamaha MSX computers. The MSX logo can be seen on the keyboard many times.
This is about computers at the beginning of the video, where high school students study or junior students of higher education. It doesn't say anything that it's a PC. The story about the EU 1840 starts at 11:20.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ES_PEVM
@@MomentalnoVMore well, PC means "personal computer" as opposed to centralized computing.
@@monocharismatic you seem to have learned to read, but not to think. The title of the video contains the text "ES PEVM IBM PCs". Read the text, It is written exactly "IBM PC". Not just a PC. fr_schmidlin correctly notes that it sees many non-IBM PC computers. And I told him that there is near the and of video an IBM PC compatible computer of the ES series, built on a Soviet clone of Intel's processor. PEVM = ПЭВМ = Персональная Электронная Вычислительная Машина = personal electronic computer = PC
@@MomentalnoVMore ah, I see. Can't think, that's for sure. 😉 The stock description that PeriscopeFilm entered for these two reels does say IBM PC, which is incorrect even if the footage shows something 8086/8088 compatible but no actual IBMs. And there seem to be two reels in this scan one with a show of variety of personal computers (Yamaha, clones, ПЭВМ, etc) and a second reel with "mainframes" for centralized computing. But then who knows what clerk has come up with the description, most likely that's the name it came with to Periscope. All depends on where they acquire the reels and what for. I would say that they are more about selling stock footage and not so much about being an archive grade historic library. They seem to have a mix of propaganda and ancient news reels, I guess whatever they can get their hands on.
@@monocharismatic I think you want too much from them. Most likely there is no second mystical part. Most likely the beginning of the film is damaged and the title of the film is not known. Therefore, the employee had to come up with something based on his knowledge and knowledge of the language. I watched other films about computers from that time. There is a similar film from this studio in 1987, it is almost 19 minutes long. There is a 1977 film, which is also 19 minutes with a few seconds.
I think this is near 1986. ES 1840 1986 year, ES 1841 1987 year. I was 4 year at this time. My father at this time work in computer center, developed the LISP compiler. And in the end proof of my prediction.
I hear some Jean Michel Jarre Oxygene Part 2! Good stuff!!
Lots of Kraftwerk too. USSR had a passion for electronic music. I am surprised they didn't throw in some Didier Marouani.
@@monocharismatic true. Space on of the rare western musician who were in USSR and was on TV. I recorded them on tape recored, fantastic music.
you can hear this in nearly every soviet popular science film.
Snippets of Kraftwerk in the music there. I wonder how long it will be before the copyright Strike
...and it ends with the Star Trek Original Series opening music! rofl. Brilliant.
Beepski bopski boopski
The Soviet Union has a highly qualified computer-electronics human resource base, they develop many famous and influential electronic computer platforms such as ELBRUS. The Soviet Union itself could create specialized computers for each branch and field of science - industrial or military production. But, unfortunately, the stagnation of Khruschev as well as Brezhnev did not allow them to create a computer industry, as well as perfect the computing industry - the forerunner of the software industry. They failed to come up with the common standards of their computer industry to influence, commercialize and apply them. But, it can also be noted, in the period after the collapse of the Soviet Union, many Soviet engineers and computer experts were valued and appreciated by the US, Japan and the West for their intellectuals and abilities, and they also helped the world's computer-software industry make a lot of progress from the 1990s to the 2000s.
You are absolutely right. They were far ahead of their time. Look at how early they invented the satellite and had it in space almost a decade before anyone else. We rely on that technology now type these comments. Indeed after Stalin, starting with Krushchev, all began to decline very quickly.
Damn! They didn't have color film in the Soviet Union in the 1980's? 🤔
We did. Just this is an educational movie distributed to schools on films 🎥 . I remember at school we watched a lot of those on classroom screens. Chemistry, physics, history class rooms were equipped with film projectors and screens. I don’t remember if those films were in colour, I guess black and white. I remember that in the school conference hall we watched colour movies but those were full/tv movies usually based on classic literature. Later after the classes we watched there Disney cartoons just after the iron curtain went down. It was quite entertaining ;)
Can you please put subtitles on these foreign films or at least a translated transcript in the film description? Thank you.
It would be interesting if you could enable the TH-cam auto-translation facility for this video, since I don't speak Russian. TH-cam doesn't either, but it thinks it does, with usually amusing and sometimes informative results.
You didn't miss much. Mostly propaganda. Enjoy the music.
@@monocharismaticлол
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And that gigantic HDD he loads.
That is a “1MB” HDD that cost between $10,000 and $25,000, depending on how “new” it was.
Now... We can get 1,000,000,000,000,000x that memory for the same price.
The “Soundtrack” during the demonstration of the plotter is lifted from Ultravox.
The beginning of the soundtrack is a rip-off of Jean-Michelle Jarre’s “Oxygen” Album, from the late-1970s.
I have not recognized the other elements of the Soundtrack... But the “Synthesizer” they demonstrate is a rip-off of a Western Synthesizer developed for the first Macintosh.
USSR was about centralized computing, I am surprised to see these PCs in the film, they must have been a super rarity, meaning this is a propaganda film. Jean Michelle Jarre and Kraftwerk. Both were very popular.
@@monocharismatic no need to tell your capitalistic tales. by the beginning of the 80s, everything became clear even in the USSR. And "for some reason" (which was not in your opinion) developed an analogue of the 8086 from 1982-1985. So we can say that the era of "IBM PC" began in the USSR in 1986. ES computers were produced somewhere around 110 thousand from 1986 to 1991.
@@MomentalnoVMore Капиталистические сказки! Замечательно! Спасибо за доброе слово...
@@monocharismatic в СССР всю жизнь закупали что-то за границей, а потом делали тоже самое но только дешевле. В этом ролике ни чего про домашние компьютеры не говорится. В СССР коммунистическая партия что-то говорила конкретно что в каждый дом по ES ПЭВМ в близжайщую пятилетку? Ну как я уже писал, сняли его в год когда только началось прозводство ES-ком. А то что это пропаганда. А что пропаганды капиталистической нет? Вот сколько я живу в условиях капитализма. Вижу телепередачи про ламборджини, феррари, бугатти и кучу всяких других автор. Что в США, Великобритании, Германии любой гражданин их может купить? Они дорогие и их делают 2-3 тыс в год на всю планету. Если нет, значит это кап. пропаганда, по вашей логике.
@@MomentalnoVMore Грустно это всё. Запад хотел уничтожить СССР с самого начала его существования. Поэтому Советские достижения даже ещё больше похвальны и впечатляемы.
I've never seen those in class, tbh, all we had were some fluorescent-green monochrome display-equipped "Elektronika"s 8088
Yeah, not much Soviet PCs in those days. The ones that were available weren't available to general public, hence the ZX Spectrum clones boom in late 80's - early 90's.
Kraftwerk and Jean Michelle Jarre soundtrack :D rofl :) I love it
in mother russia, computer science you!
Where is the soundtrack for this. Amazing.
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Very interesting, thanks.
All this time I thought he was flying a Airplane with the joystick 🕹️ controller Blyat!
I love how the tail-end diddy it goes out on sounds like a tinny Soviet rendition of the Star Trek fanfare
In Soviet Union, computer programs you!
This means that in the Soviet Union they began to do this earlier than in the progressive west. Nowadays they are programming with a computer every day. :)
Спасибо! Очень интересно!
Computer says "nyet"...
3:01.....that digital melody?? Has that been sampled by a musician??????
It's "The Man Machine" by Kraftwerk.
@@glhs386 Also sampled by 2 Live Crew for Dick Almighty!
music name 4:07???
Star...Trek? Is that you?
Indeed, I was shocked too.
Is this where Tetris came from??
Yes. Soviet professor and a student came up with it.
I see the language was in English not so Russian computers.
Yes. I imagine there used to be centralized computing in Cyrillic, otherwise English is right. Must have been driven by standards like ASCII (long since replaced by Unicode).
1980's in B&W?
Shooting in color was expensive -- so (especially in the Soviet Union) many educational films were made in b&w.
13:00 and so on A Motorola 68K with Ferranti Uncommitted Logic Arrays ... wow and something which looks like a chip by VLSI Technology Inc. in the lower left corner...
A Soviet one kopeck coin on an M68K make strange bedfellows XD XD XD
Where do you see a MC68000? It has a Rockwell 6502 microprocessor. The only motorola chip i see in this clip is a MC6854, which is not a microprocessor but a peripheral chip for serial communication.
Da comrades
до создания ИИ осталось 26 лет)))
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At that time in the 80’s the Soviet Government told the Public they were Technologically Far Superior than the USA and the Rest of the World but in Actuality they were 17-20+ years Seriously Behind with the Exception of Particular Super Computer in 1975 Apollo/Soyuz test Flight their Super computer beat an American Super Computer by 30 minutes in a Orbital Rendezvous Maneuver computation.Then came the American 1976 CRAY supercomputers which held their Ground for over 20 years.
Correct, the Brezhnev stagnation period has really hurt the country, but at least we can be proud of the Soviet space program accomplishments.