@@yourguysnow2783 There is also an episode of Sonic Boom that deals with what would happen to the other characters if Sonic did not exist, obviously the tone is much lighter than Prime, but it is still interesting that SPOILER: Tails is Eggman's Sidekick/Assistant, who rules the town where they live with an iron fist, so Tails is technically a villain.
It's funny because in The newest Sonic TV Series Sonic Prime we actually get something like this it's where Tails becomes Nine Tails because he didn't have anyone to help him when he was bullied and he got bullied so bad he grew up bitter from all the bullying he got for his two tails and isolated himself from everyone thinking everything and everyone was nothing but cold and heartless and he had no friends. I do like his Nine Tails design though it's so cool.
And in Sonic Boom there is an episode in a dimension where Sonic doesn't exist, in this one Eggman rules with an iron fist and Tails is his loyal sidekick/assistant, so he is technically a villain.
sonic is one of the reasons tails accepted his abnormality of his double-tails, and without tails, sonic would probably be dead on several occasions because of his recklessness so-
It just shows no matter what, if Sonic does not meet Tails. Tails would never be a good person in the future because of his terrible past of bullying that kept clouding him. Sonic kept Tails active as a character no matter how rude he may be in some titles. Without Sonic being sonic, in Sonic Forces my dude just crashed. He couldn’t be what he was in the past. A brave young sidekick who defeated every enemy with Knuckles and Sonic. It’s insane that if they don’t meet Tails just becomes evil and most likely sets the village on fire.
this dude watched "where was my hero...?" there is also a prequel. Which shows that as I heard from some words before. "No matter in which dimension they are. They are still fated to meet each other."
I just realized something according to the Japanese Sonic 3 manual the reason Sonic and Tails went to Angek Island is because they detected strong chao energy readings and decided to investigate if Tails isn't with Sonic why did he go Angel Island
Man I really like the what if's that you make, now I wonder what will happend to "miles" without metting sonic, mostly likely he will be an edge lord just like shadow and don't believing in friends or anything, but great vid like always!
Pretty good the editing was really nice I do have some problems mostly concerning timeline . Since tails Sky Patrol is technically Canon what will happen with wichcart . I'm pretty sure Sonic meets Ray and mighty after chaotix. Sega Sonic I think now is after chaotix so that's why.
Wait what? I didn't knew sky patrol was Canon, but if that's the case then it's going to be interesting to see what wichcart does in this timeline, and I always thought that sega sonic happend after or before sonic 1, but did sega said that sega sonic is now after chaotix?
@@My_hands_are_sticky it got confirmed that Sonic Labyrinth was Canon and saw in the Japanese manual Labyrinth is connected Sky Patrol. Sega Sonic actually takes place after Sonic R this was confirmed by Ian Flynn. What I think they're trying to do is to make a reason why Ray was not in knuckles chaotix. That reason being he didn't meet Mighty yet as Sega Sonic takes place after that
@@Starfallsupersonic Man I didn't knew any of that, huge thanks! I would of preffered sega sonic to not be way to far of the classic games somewhere in between idk sonic cd or something like that, but it's alright
@@My_hands_are_sticky it probably was originally before Sonic 1 but because Knuckles chaotix became Cannon they needed a reason for why Ray was not in the game so they set it way after that game. Some more proof: in mania's manual it mentions that mighty's last adventure was on Eggman Island and that game makes it really clear that Mighty knows knuckles. That means that chaotix is before Sega Sonic the Hedgehog
@@Starfallsupersonic In my timeline, I have Chaotix after Mania Adventures on the timeline. I chose Mania Adventures as canon and not Mania+ because it's just the same as Mania with a few differences, and in IDW (it's the closest to game canon as possible), Eggman tells Starline that he doesn't like yo do the same thing twice. That isn't his character. Anyway, on why it's relevant to Knuckles Chaotix, is because in Mania Adventures, Ray shows Knuckles a missing poster for Mighty, and Knuckles shrugs in not having seen him
Yeah we all know this really is them meeting later,maybe wayyy later,i won't know,but for know the timeline is fully secure even if Sonic had to go through 2,3 & knuckles alone xd
Wait Wouldn’t Sonic die at the end of sonic 2 there’s no tails to catch him with the torpedoe and he can’t become super sonic because there’s zero rings in death egg zone so would he have just fallen to his death?
@nadx268 Even then prime is a different scenario. Nine grows up in a world where Sonic doesn't exist and Eggman takes over. This what if just has him not meet sonic. It's a key difference
What if tails never meant sonic This event would take place in sonic hill sonic would run fast to the emrald hill and this is where are story began tails would be waking and the bully will push him and start being mean to him and they would keep being mean but sonic is running to emrald hill so I think nothing much will happend and beating stages and getting the CAHOS emeralds and has them at his hands mean while the death egg would show up and he would decide instead to go super they notice he's flying up he would have nothing to do but to get silver sonic they would clash but this is pretty one sided he wouldn't have enough skills to beat the super sonic as he flys up and destroys it he would fly up but eggman would show up while that he noticed the crazy powers and make powers that would take off his super and gather the CAHOS emeralds sonic would be shocked he would hit but the eggman robot would absorb the emeralds sonic would hit him but it would't do much as he is more durable and he would fly up and sonic would try to run and he makes a blast called the CAHOS blast he would shoot him it would blow and sonic at the urge of death as he makes a blast to the earth sonic would have an idea he can hit him as hard as he can and can grab the emeralds out of him he would spindash to him but he grab a shield box puts it on him and starts fighting he would he shouldn't shocked he would grab the emeralds and grows more powerful and eggman would be more weaker and eventually goes super again destroys the robot and the death egg he flys down and in this version tails would be bullied more and more it would get worse and worse he would later find something to make him stronger sonic 3 he would go on his tornado and land he would walk as Knuckles spear and since he didn't go super they would meet and knuckles would want to kill him and he would be influenced and decide they fight knuckles would throw punches and sonics speed but knuckles strength they would be on pretty relative terms but I think by the end sonic would come out sonic would kick and he would fall sonic will say what's the matter with you knuckles thinks that he's a threat and sonic mentions how the creature's are turning into robots and as they were taking they would notice explosions they would run over there they would destroy it together they would both decide to work together so they would go threw the stages and on the world where they fall as he destroys the building would notice knuckles gliding and they would fight and win so I think they would get the master emrald easier and sonic and knuckles would meet with eggman they would jump down and beat him with out super but meanwhile the death egg was charging he wouldn't notice they would tell to leave he leaves but they didn't know untill knuckles OH NO HES CHARGING THE DEATH EGG they would both be shocked and run over there as it's about to be done he would run up there and jab him as Mecha sonic would appear and they would fight sonic would a harder time but knuckles wouldn't and beats him and sonic gets thrown to knuckles and death egg would fly up knuckles and sonic would go super the death egg they would fly and destroy it another easier win now this is sonic mania tails is fighting hatred the world vs him he would always get more and more mad he would make a mech that made him snap he would beat his bully's ajd start becoming a bully and decide to move and find sources of power classic Sonic would run and the phantom ruby would exist and they would notice what's going on they would fly up and the adventures would began and notice that mighty and ray would meet up with them and they would 4 go and destroying them just like last time the hard metals would lose one by one and they would be districted as the leader would consume the master emrald powers and consume the phantom ruby everyone would notice the crazy power and they would notice and use CAHOS control and eggman would appear and they would clash he would easily destroy eggman mean while the world's would consume into nothing and tails would notice making his own plane would fly over mean while they would all try to fight but they would lost one by one and they thought it would be over untill tails would crash his plane into the phantom ruby and would grab it and put it in his suit now the world would be almost destroyed and phantom ruby tails and the metal would clash the phantom ruby is stronger then the master emrald but there merely both knock out and sonic with all his might would use the spindash to break out he would take the emeralds and he would go super and tails now known as nine would beat the bot and he would change the past and the phantom ruby nine would teleport away they would all go on the classroom c adventures and now what will happend in the adventure series find out on part 2
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There is a comic about this "called where was my hero" a pretty sad but great comic
And now we have sonic prime
@@yourguysnow2783 There is also an episode of Sonic Boom that deals with what would happen to the other characters if Sonic did not exist, obviously the tone is much lighter than Prime, but it is still interesting that SPOILER:
Tails is Eggman's Sidekick/Assistant, who rules the town where they live with an iron fist, so Tails is technically a villain.
Don't forget it's discontinued prequel th-cam.com/video/qH7Kw3zGupQ/w-d-xo.htmlsi=Borl4V9QLSRF80aa
Yesss I know that comic and yes, it is very sad 😢
It's funny because in The newest Sonic TV Series Sonic Prime we actually get something like this it's where Tails becomes Nine Tails because he didn't have anyone to help him when he was bullied and he got bullied so bad he grew up bitter from all the bullying he got for his two tails and isolated himself from everyone thinking everything and everyone was nothing but cold and heartless and he had no friends.
I do like his Nine Tails design though it's so cool.
And in Sonic Boom there is an episode in a dimension where Sonic doesn't exist, in this one Eggman rules with an iron fist and Tails is his loyal sidekick/assistant, so he is technically a villain.
"Where Was My Hero...?" came earlier than Prime, what a coincidence that is.
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Yeah I remember that episode
There is also a Prequel to that story.@@ЛеонидЗурнаджи
I think about Sonic Prime.
I’m interested to see what Miles gets up to this timeline.
Hey comic
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Yeah!
Its here!
He will become nine from Sonic prime
sonic is one of the reasons tails accepted his abnormality of his double-tails, and without tails, sonic would probably be dead on several occasions because of his recklessness so-
It just shows no matter what, if Sonic does not meet Tails. Tails would never be a good person in the future because of his terrible past of bullying that kept clouding him. Sonic kept Tails active as a character no matter how rude he may be in some titles. Without Sonic being sonic, in Sonic Forces my dude just crashed. He couldn’t be what he was in the past. A brave young sidekick who defeated every enemy with Knuckles and Sonic. It’s insane that if they don’t meet Tails just becomes evil and most likely sets the village on fire.
this dude watched "where was my hero...?" there is also a prequel. Which shows that as I heard from some words before.
"No matter in which dimension they are. They are still fated to meet each other."
I just realized something according to the Japanese Sonic 3 manual the reason Sonic and Tails went to Angek Island is because they detected strong chao energy readings and decided to investigate if Tails isn't with Sonic why did he go Angel Island
No? It's because it's where the death egg fell
@@boblesponge but he didn't know that, so why did he go to angle island
@@daggerfly0087maybe Sonic heard a rumor that Eggman was at Angel Island to build a spacecraft
"the ship starts to crumble under the pressure" You mean...Lack of pressure? Space is a vacuum, it'd be *pulling* rather than *compressing.*
There is already a version of this it's called "where was my hero" he tripped over a damn rock and missed his opportunity
Yes, and there was an prequel about it. th-cam.com/video/qH7Kw3zGupQ/w-d-xo.htmlsi=Borl4V9QLSRF80aa
Man I really like the what if's that you make, now I wonder what will happend to "miles" without metting sonic, mostly likely he will be an edge lord just like shadow and don't believing in friends or anything, but great vid like always!
Shadows not a edge of lord but I get what you're saying.
@@Starfallsupersonic lol I know it just my way to say it
@IsaacInfernape2000 (Raman) (18+) oof sorry, thanks for pointing that out I will change it
the main question is, can miles get a love life that doesn't get undone?
Pretty good the editing was really nice I do have some problems mostly concerning timeline
. Since tails Sky Patrol is technically Canon what will happen with wichcart
. I'm pretty sure Sonic meets Ray and mighty after chaotix. Sega Sonic I think now is after chaotix so that's why.
Wait what? I didn't knew sky patrol was Canon, but if that's the case then it's going to be interesting to see what wichcart does in this timeline, and I always thought that sega sonic happend after or before sonic 1, but did sega said that sega sonic is now after chaotix?
@@My_hands_are_sticky it got confirmed that Sonic Labyrinth was Canon and saw in the Japanese manual Labyrinth is connected Sky Patrol. Sega Sonic actually takes place after Sonic R this was confirmed by Ian Flynn.
What I think they're trying to do is to make a reason why Ray was not in knuckles chaotix. That reason being he didn't meet Mighty yet as Sega Sonic takes place after that
@@Starfallsupersonic Man I didn't knew any of that, huge thanks! I would of preffered sega sonic to not be way to far of the classic games somewhere in between idk sonic cd or something like that, but it's alright
@@My_hands_are_sticky it probably was originally before Sonic 1 but because Knuckles chaotix became Cannon they needed a reason for why Ray was not in the game so they set it way after that game.
Some more proof: in mania's manual it mentions that mighty's last adventure was on Eggman Island and that game makes it really clear that Mighty knows knuckles. That means that chaotix is before Sega Sonic the Hedgehog
@@Starfallsupersonic In my timeline, I have Chaotix after Mania Adventures on the timeline. I chose Mania Adventures as canon and not Mania+ because it's just the same as Mania with a few differences, and in IDW (it's the closest to game canon as possible), Eggman tells Starline that he doesn't like yo do the same thing twice. That isn't his character.
Anyway, on why it's relevant to Knuckles Chaotix, is because in Mania Adventures, Ray shows Knuckles a missing poster for Mighty, and Knuckles shrugs in not having seen him
1:20 I don't think Robotnik stole them as you can go super on the Wing Fortress
2:37 perhaps this is the competition only zone called Endless Mine
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Yeah we all know this really is them meeting later,maybe wayyy later,i won't know,but for know the timeline is fully secure even if Sonic had to go through 2,3 & knuckles alone xd
As I heard from some words before.
"No matter in which dimension they are. They are still fated to meet each other."
there are two aus i can think of: where was my hero and the dystopian future in sonic prime
one of these aus include murder
Sonic is a pretty competent hero
Interesting what if
2:39 endless mine?
2:10 Mecha Sonic MK1
When's what if Silver went too far back part 3?
After I finish part 2 of this I'll be working on part 3 of silver!
The rise of Omelet Boy ❤❤❤
3:35 doesn't Sega Sonoc happen after Sonic R (according to Ian Flynn)
well thats sad
Wait Wouldn’t Sonic die at the end of sonic 2 there’s no tails to catch him with the torpedoe and he can’t become super sonic because there’s zero rings in death egg zone so would he have just fallen to his death?
In the good ending of Sonic 2 he flys out of the Death Egg as Super Sonic.
Sonic doesn’t take fall damage
That answer was in Sonic Prime where if Sonic never meet him i would turn into Miles "Nine" Prower.
I made this before Sonic prime
@@tntsonic7482 I know but i think the clip with the backstory of Nine was already out.
@nadx268 Even then prime is a different scenario. Nine grows up in a world where Sonic doesn't exist and Eggman takes over. This what if just has him not meet sonic. It's a key difference
@@tntsonic7482 Yeah, I am just saying that the stroy is similair
If you think about it, Tails Nine from Sonic Prime is likely what your theory, what Tails is if he never met Sonic.
and "where was my hero...?"
Don't forget that.
Isn't this just Nine's backstory?
Tails would become a villain duh
And a competent one in fact.
So it like nine
But tails was not bron in eggman worlds
2:03 what comic is that?
Sonic Genesis from Archie.
What if tails never meant sonic
This event would take place in sonic hill sonic would run fast to the emrald hill and this is where are story began tails would be waking and the bully will push him and start being mean to him and they would keep being mean but sonic is running to emrald hill so I think nothing much will happend and beating stages and getting the CAHOS emeralds and has them at his hands mean while the death egg would show up and he would decide instead to go super they notice he's flying up he would have nothing to do but to get silver sonic they would clash but this is pretty one sided he wouldn't have enough skills to beat the super sonic as he flys up and destroys it he would fly up but eggman would show up while that he noticed the crazy powers and make powers that would take off his super and gather the CAHOS emeralds sonic would be shocked he would hit but the eggman robot would absorb the emeralds sonic would hit him but it would't do much as he is more durable and he would fly up and sonic would try to run and he makes a blast called the CAHOS blast he would shoot him it would blow and sonic at the urge of death as he makes a blast to the earth sonic would have an idea he can hit him as hard as he can and can grab the emeralds out of him he would spindash to him but he grab a shield box puts it on him and starts fighting he would he shouldn't shocked he would grab the emeralds and grows more powerful and eggman would be more weaker and eventually goes super again destroys the robot and the death egg he flys down and in this version tails would be bullied more and more it would get worse and worse he would later find something to make him stronger sonic 3 he would go on his tornado and land he would walk as Knuckles spear and since he didn't go super they would meet and knuckles would want to kill him and he would be influenced and decide they fight knuckles would throw punches and sonics speed but knuckles strength they would be on pretty relative terms but I think by the end sonic would come out sonic would kick and he would fall sonic will say what's the matter with you knuckles thinks that he's a threat and sonic mentions how the creature's are turning into robots and as they were taking they would notice explosions they would run over there they would destroy it together they would both decide to work together so they would go threw the stages and on the world where they fall as he destroys the building would notice knuckles gliding and they would fight and win so I think they would get the master emrald easier and sonic and knuckles would meet with eggman they would jump down and beat him with out super but meanwhile the death egg was charging he wouldn't notice they would tell to leave he leaves but they didn't know untill knuckles OH NO HES CHARGING THE DEATH EGG they would both be shocked and run over there as it's about to be done he would run up there and jab him as Mecha sonic would appear and they would fight sonic would a harder time but knuckles wouldn't and beats him and sonic gets thrown to knuckles and death egg would fly up knuckles and sonic would go super the death egg they would fly and destroy it another easier win now this is sonic mania tails is fighting hatred the world vs him he would always get more and more mad he would make a mech that made him snap he would beat his bully's ajd start becoming a bully and decide to move and find sources of power classic Sonic would run and the phantom ruby would exist and they would notice what's going on they would fly up and the adventures would began and notice that mighty and ray would meet up with them and they would 4 go and destroying them just like last time the hard metals would lose one by one and they would be districted as the leader would consume the master emrald powers and consume the phantom ruby everyone would notice the crazy power and they would notice and use CAHOS control and eggman would appear and they would clash he would easily destroy eggman mean while the world's would consume into nothing and tails would notice making his own plane would fly over mean while they would all try to fight but they would lost one by one and they thought it would be over untill tails would crash his plane into the phantom ruby and would grab it and put it in his suit now the world would be almost destroyed and phantom ruby tails and the metal would clash the phantom ruby is stronger then the master emrald but there merely both knock out and sonic with all his might would use the spindash to break out he would take the emeralds and he would go super and tails now known as nine would beat the bot and he would change the past and the phantom ruby nine would teleport away they would all go on the classroom c adventures and now what will happend in the adventure series find out on part 2
Tails Nine ;)
no no.
"Where Was My Hero...?"
It came earlier than prime.
@@ЛеонидЗурнаджи That’s why I have the emoticon.
I was just joking.
aaaaah sneaky remark.
By the way I think someone reuploaded prequel to that comic.@@SaddieMoon
But what if sonic never mets anyone
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@@tntsonic7482 how dare you
@@tntsonic7482 omelet boy will not tolerate this
@@tntsonic7482 omelet boy will not tolerate this