The Wasteland's Punching Bag: The History of the Great Khans Tribe
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 29 ก.ย. 2024
- Today, we're taking a deep dive into the Fallout faction that can never seem to win. The ruthless tribe that once struck fear into wastelanders, the Khans, would take loss after loss until they were a mere fraction of their old selves. How does such a steep downfall even happen? Well, let's find out.
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glad you did this my friend, crazy that the Khans came from the same Vault that NCR ancestors are also from
It’s really similar to how just about all of Europe came from the same Indo-European ancestors.
Crazy that I didn't know about it.
I love the Khans! I think they're fascinating with how much they've changed over time, imagine! The faction made famous for their leaders committing patricide get lead to true success in the Mojave/Wyoming by a guy they all call Papa. It's so underrated. I also love how their method of government remains pretty consistent, with their leaders supported by advisors. It's one of the few examples we really get of how a traditional raider society functions, and it's just interesting to see. Thank you for making this!
wouldnt mind more of these longer videos from you. these are aleays great
I love the idea of Khans tearing it up around Seattle on Nuclear Dirtbikes
Like the mongol hordes of old, nomads raiding and pillaging
I became friends with them all, especially loved the drug runs, smuggling and being a drug lord in general. I was loved by the tribe as the great drug king pin that blessed them caps and food galore
I’m pretty sure that mr house is the cannon ending in new Vegas, just because he is literally the one the game directs you towards
From the start
And who wouldn't be loyal to someone who saved there life
but of course he's canon, he's the one who brought us to starfield.
The game directs you towards Benny, not House.
@@draginarius1949 Bethesda connected universe?? We already have nirnroot in the prydwen...
@Kennth Artica and?
Isn't there an ending where the courier massacres them if you assault redrock
The khan’s deserved what they got. I don’t understand how someone could feel bad for raiders.
It’s never that simple.
The Great Khans of the Apocalypse has got a cool ring to it
I helped the khan go to Wyoming
You doomed the locals in Wyoming
@@sloppyoyster5779 noice
i need a game that takes place in the widwest where the great khans are a major faction, empire at full force, i think that would be lit
The Lutheran Khaganate
Wastelands punching bag
*Laughs in Railroad*
Because they are still raiders at the end of the day.
This is a amazing video
It's weird to me that in the second half of the video you talk about the Khans as though the NCR is pushing them around and coming after them for no good reason, even though the Khans started it basically every time and they do much worse to all kinds of people than the NCR did to them. The Khans aren't innocent and the NCR repeatedly showing them mercy has allowed them to continue being a black mark on the wasteland.
Love the khans!
Shouldn’t have sold drugs then L + Ratio bozos
KHANS!!!!
☢️. God bless.
Don’t worry. They win in the end, if you give them a good ending.
I wish you would upload the full length video first and then cut out the main points as shorts, I do appreciate that would force you to be concise as possible for the longer videos but 🤷♂️.
"The wasteland's punching bag"
*Laughs at The Enclave*
*laughs at The Followers of The Apocalypse
*laughs in general*
The funniest thing about the enclave is that they're a secret government body that was going to take over once the wasteland started rebuilding
How's that working out for ya, dipshits? 🤣
@@cornyasshell2536 every factions are punching bags for the protagonists
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Honestly, It’s kind of hard to feel bad about all the Khans misfortunes. They are after all a bunch of raiders who have no problem murdering their way across the wasteland.
Yea but i'm kind of type of person i feel symapty for when they have a tragic backstory even though they are Bad
With the dude who got terminated. If someone has a repeating track record of attacking and just not trying to cooperate. I too would probably not feel bad
To be fair yeah but at the same time they have a chance for redemption in the Wyoming empire. Building something better
I'm still pissed that they made these desert dwelling warrios mongols and not indians or a band of charismatic gunslingers
@@dantewilliams2757 Build a great empire... of graves.
Jerks! Friggin make the Den feel better.
Khans : hello
Followers : here kid read this lol *gives book about chemistry
Khans : *became the biggest drug dealer in all mojave
Followers : oops
Random kid : hi
Followers : here kid read this lol *gives book about roman empire
Random kid : *became caesar and enslaved 80 tribes
Followers : BIG OOPS
Honestly the great Kahn’s outfits look like biker gear if they somehow were able to incorporate motorcycles in the game they could have been an awesome biker faction to join.
That would've been cool for any vehicles too, i think the Khans are a reference to the Mongols biker gang in the U.S.
I go for the last ending nowadays. The first few times I played I was still in that Fallout1 & 2 mindset of the Khans. Never really thought they could have a future. As I got older learned more about the Mongolian empire and explored new Vegas a lot more than I should have. The last ending is what’s best. And I hope it’s the canon ending.
I imagine it is. Biggest clue is that it's agnostic to whether or not they choose Legion, NCR, or House to take control of the Dam.
But it wouldn't surprise me if they give a bad ending instead, as fitting for their history.
Imagine a game set in the northwestern-most states, where the great khans are a major faction that you can support.
Okay I found this channel a couple months ago, and honestly it’s grown to be one of my favorites-the attention to detail, the production value of each video, the dedication to preserving this collection…it’s enough to gain my admiration. Also, the comments and analysis on what these games have to say on the human condition is brilliant, and the way this channel connects that to our actual tendencies is inspiring. Keep it up!
While the Wyoming ending is the best ending for the Khans it is probably the worst ending for everyone else since they would emulate the mongol empire. Which would make Caesars legion look like saints in comparison
I'd have to disagree. I believe their ferocity is tempered by the followers of the apocalypse. They dont become the next ncr. But they sure as shit dont become the next mongol empire. But thats just my opinion.
Legion vs Khans in Possible Future?
The Legion will be defunct by time the Khan Empire has risen.
Tbh, the Legion would likely be falling apart after the current generation passes away, while the Khans require at least two generations to really become something new.
The Mongols were a lot better than what Caesar's Legion does. The Mongols didn't go out of their way to try to eradicate any ethnic or national identity other than their own, or create a toxic cult of personality around their shithead ruler, or enslave *everyone* they captured or conquered, all things the Legion does with abandon. Nor did the Mongols treat their women nearly as terribly as the Legion does.
Really, the only point where the Mongols are as bad as Caesar's Legion is what they do to "make examples" of people that try to stand up to them. Except even then, at least the Mongols *only* did that to people that tried to fight back, whereas the Legion turns around and does the exact same thing to their own allies because those allies aren't sufficiently "honorable" or whatever, like at Nipton.
@@UrLeingod do you mean Khans?
Yes Man says it best.
I've always had a soft spot for the Khans. It frustrates me when people dismiss them as just raiders that deserve to be wiped out.
The wasteland’s most ignorant tribe of hyped up raiders: The Khans.
Ah my favorite wasteland raccoon uploads again!
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I wouldn’t mind a Boomers story
18:08 I had no idea that was a possible ending!
I always go for that one
Please do more of these long videos I love them cause they are so interesting.
It’s honestly unexpected for me to see through a Fallout comic that Benny, the bastard that shot you in the head at the beginning of the game at least had some empathy to give Chance, the mute Khan who was in his dying moments who was desperately clinging on to life after a fatal battle against Fiends, a shot at merciful death by consuming spiked Psycho so he can pass away peacefully instead of in pain. I still hate Benny but damn I respect him for that at least.
Great intel chief
The Khans deserve little sympathy. Even in NV one of the Kahn survivors of Bitter Springs, Bitterroot, talks about how his family was nothing but a bunch of abusive assholes and that the NCR's fuck up gave him a second chance in life. Jerry the Punk also says that Khan life isn't for him and that he doesn't really want to be with them, but unfortunately having their protection is better than just being out in the wastes. The Khans are raiders, with generations of abuse towards others and their fellows. They've had chances to better themselves and each time they instead chose to cause trouble with everyone else. Also I mean, they named themselves after the "Khans", their entire identity is being a roaming war band.
Crush your enemies, see them driven before you, hear the lamentations of their women.
That is what The Pitiful Khans got at Bitter Springs.
Pour pour cem dealing khans
Could you do a longer episode on vault tec? I'd love to see the history of them, as well as theories about them.
I hope for the next fallout new Vegas every ending is true. You just get assigned a "universe" with a set history based on responses or something completely arbitrary. Something that feels tailored to you and you influence that world you find yourself in.
People can dream right 💭
That'd be nuts. It may even have been doable if we didn't go back east for Fallout 4.
But given that we may not even have a Fallout game this decade and the current cost of asset production, it seems highly unlikely. I want to at least hope they get some other "New Vegas 2" going and that Todd was simply talking about Fallout 5 specifically. But who knows.
I wish but that would mean they would put time into making certain areas and factions that wouldn't exist in certain playthrough in there eyes making it a waste of time. Western developers had a complete fit when Elden Ring had areas that u didn't need to complete to finish the game
I've always liked the Khans I've always saved them in my playthrough that is one group I always allied with lol
I always convince them to go all in and die at the Hoover dam
Were the "Slitherkin" related to the Vipers?
It appears that the Slither Kin were a tribe that originated in Vegas, prior to Mr House’s awakening, while the Vipers of course from California, and only recently entered into New Vegas.
Wouldnt be cool to be attacked by horseback khans in Wyoming some day
what if you Yes man, or Mr House it. Then defeat Ceasars Legion then throw the general off the dam? What becomes of the Khans then?
What’s the background music in this??
The Khans asked for it all, getting wiped out by The Vault dweller and The Chosen one, betting massacred at bitter springs, and getting screwed over again by the NCR. Would be happy to see them again as petty raiders to mow down in a future title.
If the khan's originated from fallout 4 their backstory would be "this is the great khans, they are raiders" black isle/obsidian is on a different level when it come to lore in fallout.
They're still raiders
I always just solo wiped them.
Let's show NCR how to Finish the job.
Crouch attack! Somehow!
I feel like this group could have came back if they were to head west with fallout again
Seriously the group seems to have the worst crap that was possible to do them done to them in fallout lore cannon just from the explanation from the Khans in New Vegas and if it isn't just junkie talk for sympathy you kinda have to respect them even if you slaughtered them in New Vegas yes the Khans started 100% of the fights that didn't go well for them
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Best most comprehensive detailed lore on the Khans I have seen so far. And I've had an interest in them ,and watched more than a few lore vids on them now. Also didn't realise even in their worst case scenario, they still manage to evacuate remnants from Red Rock to Idaho. So basically they can lay low and regroup yet again yes?. Love em or hate em. They just won't lay and down and die for good.
Far as wanting to see more detailed lore on factions or gangs. I want to learn more on the Vipers and Jackals. Never seen a proper lore vid focused on either so far. I didn't even know Vipers were snake worshippers or Jackals were cannibals til I watched this vid tbh. I've never seen a detailed whole lore video focusing on either Vipers or Jackals yet, so that would be good if you could do that. I thought just like other 50's street gangs culture. You would see at least a few Vipers with leather jackets with their gang patch on their backs like tunnel snakes or Khans. Tween Vipers or Jackals there's basically no indicators to tell em apart. Which I thought was bit dumb considering both are long established, kind of strong gangs anyway. Be good if the devs for next Fallout game, or spin off, would finally start story with new angle . Like the protagonist being born into ,growing up in one of those 3 legendary gangs. Be so much more interesting, a fresh approach at least. And if you choose to a be a goody goody character, you could leave them and choose to join N.C.R or Brotherhood. Or become a missionary pacifist, medic in the Followers etc.
But the tribal groups in Fallout always interest me the most. Dead Horses to Sorrows, even White Legs. I'd love to see more about Vipers tribal culture , I mean if the devs could be bothered they could go as in-depth as they did for Children of Atom ,into the religion, tribal culture of the Vipers. Probably something like the church of Christian snake worshippers irl yes?.
One last thing. I realise the populations that formed the Khans , Vipers, Jackals and N.C.R had years to grow ,reproduce and marry with others outside vault soon as they left Vault 15. But how big were those groups in first place when they left 15 ?? Must of been pretty sizable in the first place yes? Also must of been a vault ,a rare vault that did not experiment on and or kill off its inhabitants either, or else they would not of had the population to split off into 4 major groups when they left the vault finally yes?
I played New Vegas and then Fallout 2 and 1, I never realised that the "raiders" in FO1 and 2 were the same people as the Great Khans. They just seemed like generic raider gangs. I think their gangs would have fallen apart a long time ago and formed new gangs, the game devs kept them as raiders for the nostalgia
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Thanks for your efforts. I often have difficulties concentrating on the dialogue heavy lore in the games. Your videos have connected a lot of dots for me and helped me better understand my favourite games.
Cheers :)
Every playthrough of Fallout New Vegas, I always choose the best ending.
And the enclave?
I always try to get the kahns to evacuate yet somehow it usually ends with them doing a suicide run to regain their honor and go out with a bang
dont forgt they got they're aesthetic from the american motorcycle gang
I was feeling bad for them until I realized how bad the Mongol Empire really is....
Let’s hope they don’t go on a revenge streak, and try to kill half of the wastelands population
They would just be Legion electro Bohol
isn't it said somewhere that the white gloves were the sawneys
What about becoming the Khan Chieftain?
is fallout 76 that bad 🤔
The Great Can't
Thanks for... Khanmenting? Huh? Come on, this was a Great Pun.
I like them
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The great khans are my favorite NV faction, they're like the legion but way more chill and not mysogynistic
and instead they sell drugs to child rapist
The NCR did nothing wrong at bitter springs
The NCR Massacred Great Khan Woman, Elders, and Children at Bitter Springs
@@Jaymariota27 they had it comin.
@@kylorekt8900 yea that is true now that i think about it. Also Papa Khan is an Asshole
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This is a great video! Thank you 🙏
New Vegas was my first Fallout game, so I never experienced their raider ways or had to fight them in the earlier installments, which is why I was so sympathetic with them when I met them and always helped them get their good ending in NV. However after reading their wiki, knowing their background and reading all the comments I am beginning to see they deserved everything that had happened to them and should be wiped out like every raider group I come across in the wasteland.
the khans deserve to have a redemption even if they have been bandits, and drug dealer, everyone deserves a second chance
I love the Khans, at least in vegas, there prolly mu favorite faction next to the minutemen or ncr
They go by many names: khans, white-legs, the 80s. I call the legion, for they are many.
Should've just made 20 shorts
The real question is why they picked the Mongol Empire as their aesthetic. Like, why? At least Caesar gave a reason for the Legion’s Rome LARP
I read somewhere that it was taken from a group of bikers rather than the Mongols. My guessing was that the "transportation" part meant that the Khan would start riding bikes into battle, but don't quote me on any of this.
I think the khan's is just the name. They seem much more based on Native Americans. Especially with the Wounded Knee reference.
Please do another on the Kings, bro!