Please note this correction: In the video I said the Baratza Vario has 40mm burrs. That is incorrect! The Vario has 54mm ceramic burrs. Thanks to viewer Chris G. for catching my mistake. Marc
"It's a slow grinder" - its largest disadvantage. You know what? I love that it's slow. The aroma of freshly ground coffee is just so warm and welcoming, this sounds completely blissful to me. Slower also means that I have more time to ensure the ground coffee fills the basket evenly. I am smitten, it has everything I could ever want: funneled dosing, slow-ish grinding, simple display, low retention, quiet, relatively low cost, good-sized flat burrs, great accuracy... Can't wait to get it! Excellent review!
Mark, I love your videos, you always seem so excited no matter what product you are reviewing. You have pretty much swayed my choice between the Ceado E37S and the K30 so thanks for that!
@@Wholelattelovepage decided to go with the Ceado E37S (when I do upgrade), seems just as good as the K30 but I'm really digging the ability to clean it with out having to worry about losing grind settings. Plus with the K30 going away the new E65s is a bit out of my range.
Hi Sebastian, Thanks for the comment - It's great to be back! Yes, we were off for a few weeks during the rebuild to take things up a notch or 3. There's a "whole latte" more to come with a second new set. The Whole Latte Love Labs set is ready to go for our tech heavy videos. Stay tuned! Marc
Hi Mark, could you give your advice on dialling in the Faustino. Are you making single ‘notch’ adjustments or are you going down to half or even quarter ‘notch’ turn adjustments? Love the channel!
I have a Niche zero as my main grinder, but really want a flat burr grinder. I specifically want the matching grinder for my Rocket, but man I don’t want to waste anymore money on espresso equipment. 😩
Hi Martin, Thanks for the comment and a great question! It's one I did not know the answer to until just a couple of minutes ago :). Just tried the Gaggia PF in Faustino fork and it does work. My initial thought was the slab design of the fork might be to thick but I was wrong. Marc
Hey J, Thanks for the question. It's a grinding cup from a ROK manual espresso grinder I had in the studio. Similar and even better dosing cups are available from Acaia like this one: www.wholelattelove.com/products/acaia-portafilter-dosing-cup Marc
@@Wholelattelovepage Just bought it after your comment. It's a great grinder. Thank you very much. One more question would be how would I know it need the replacement?
@ Cyrille: ...and I'm not getting rid of my Mazzer Electronic Type A grinder anytime soon... However, if I upgrade my current (and since 2015) VBM espresso machine in the future to a Kees Van Der Westen "Speedster," then I'll likely pair it with a new grinder, too. ;-) -- BR
I am thinking of getting a fausto, now i have seen this i am not sure, for home use the faustino looks great. Are you happy wirh your fausto, which would you choose, have you had any problems, have you had it for a long time and is it quite. Thx in advance for your time should you respond. Just wanted to know for an actual owner.😎👍
While I'm not a fan of displays in grinders, I must admit one in Faustino is miles ahead of Fausto (in fact, old style display were one of reasons why I passed on 860E which is brother model of Fausto with 60mm burrs). And while I wouldn't choose grinder just because of looks, Faustino is matching Appartamento quite well and is a nice excuse to lean towards it. Other manufacturers also try to create sets of matching units so Rocket is going a known route.
Hi Kareem, Thanks for the comment and question. I have not attempted a side by side tasting with the Faustino and the Sette 270. I can say our staff is currently using a Eureka Mignon with 50mm burrs to grind for a Dalla Corte Mina flow profiling machine www.wholelattelove.com/products/dalla-corte-mina-110v in our staff kitchen with very good results. The Mignon is nearly identical in many respects to the Faustino including the 50mm hardened steel burrs. Prior to that we were using a Ceado E37SD as a grinder for the Mina. Our staff of coffee pros prefer the Ceado to the Mignon. Keep in mind the E37SD is a single dosing grinder with massive 83mm flat titanium coated burrs - an incredible espresso grinder: www.wholelattelove.com/products/ceado-e37sd-single-dose-coffee-grinder Marc
Hi Marc. This looks like a great grinder! I can't decide between this and the Fausto, which I'll probably pair with an Appartamento. All of the reviews seem to favour this machine - quieter and less clumping, but the Fausto must be better, surely? I don't want to upgrade again, so wary of paying a little less for the Faustino only to want better later on! What do you think? Currently using a Rancilio Rocky with a Gaggia Classic (from around 2000 and still going strong with no issues!). And machine-wise, I have started to look at at higher spec HX machine than an Appartamento, but each machine I look it leads to a higher and higher spec as I decide I 'need' PID, rotary pump, double boiler.... which then gets too expensive. Following the Italians' 4 M's rule, the machine is the last one, and I'm convinced (!) I can (or could!) get exceptional espresso and latte with a good grinder (the Fausto) and an entry level HX machine (Appartamento) set up (?) Many thanks for a great channel. I've spent quite a bit of my 'lock-down' looking at your guidance and reviews and, despite you being 'in-the-trade,' I've come to value and trust your expertise, judgement and honesty. Many thanks.
Ahhh I've been waiting for something like this ever since I got my Rocket Appartamento espresso machine. I've had it for about 2 years now and it's a fantastic machine for what I use it for. I currently just use a Baratza Encore Conical Burr Coffee Grinder which I weigh out my beast prior to grinding for a triple shot in a bottomless portafilter. Once ground I then dump the grounds into the portafilter distribute and tamp. I get pretty decent results, however I feel that I might be missing out on better coffee extraction. Is there a huge benefit to having the grounds flow directly into the portafilter? I would maybe say less clumpy. However is going from $140 grinder to a $700 grinder going to give me that much better results?
Hi Joshua, Hi have an Encore at home. It's a wonderful grinder for drip etc. but is seriously lacking for espresso. Why? It's a stepped grinder so making very small changes in grind size is not possible. I can only recommend that level of grinder for use in pressurized baskets typically found in low cost entry-level espresso appliances. As you likely know grinding into the bin of the Encore then transferring to a PF is a PITA. Grinding into a PF usually results in better distribution of grounds. Good distribution is step one in preventing channeling through the coffee puck. You can appraise the quality of your distribution by watching shots develop in your bottomless PF. If things are good you'll get simultaneous development from all areas with no spurting. Stepping up to a grinder with better grind size adjustment, less clumping and good distribution will improve shots. Grinders which provide consistent time or weight based dosing can eliminate the need to weigh grinds separately. The Faustino is a machine grade grinder. You pay a little more for the robust build quality. If you'd like to take a less $$ step toward better grinding have a look at the Baratza 270. It's appliance grade in construction and much loader than the Faustino but produces beautiful fluffy clump free grinds with excellent distribution. It has stepless micro adjustment of grind size and is very consistent with dosing weights. Marc
@@Wholelattelovepage Thanks Marc for the great feedback! Been a long time sub and you guys sold me on the Appartamento a few years back. Yes I will say that the one issue I do have with the current grind set up is that even though I try to distribute the gounds evenly and have proper distribution and tamp, I still sometimes end up with spurting in the bottomless PF. My flow is good, but I think it could always be better. I've had my eye on the Baratza 270 for a while now and I think it would be a good upgrade from my current grinder without breaking the bank. I just don't think I could jump to a 700-900$ grinder at the moment as I would have to convince my better half. :) Thanks for the input. I'm not too concerned about noise as anything could be better than the Encore
Whole Latte Love also while I have you on topic of my rocket appartamento. I turned it on this morning ans the machine got heated up however I came back to it and I noticed it powered off and had tripped the wall outlet circuit. I reset and plugged back in and it tripped as soon as I flicked the switch. I tried other things in the plus and they seem to work fine. Is there a fuse in the machine that might have blown. Thanks so much for any help.
Hi JT, Could use for Chemex but its more of an espresso specialist and espresso grinders tend to produce more fines at coarser grind sizes. My favorite and best value grinder for your brew method is the Baratza Virtuoso+: www.wholelattelove.com/products/baratza-virtuoso-coffee-grinder Marc
Hi Mark, Love your explanations with great voice :) Just a question, can i use this grinder for coffee lab purpose ? I am q-grader and establishing a small coffee lab . So price wise would be ideal than 3k Mahlkönig grinders. Thanks
Hi w, Thanks for the comment and question. It's possible to use for that purpose. Guessing you'd be weighing after grinding for grading. If the timing function is not important to you I'd have a look at the Ceado E5P as well - currently priced below the Faustino. It's a manual on demand grinder so no timed function (Ceado E6P is same specs as E5P but with timed grinding for more $$) and larger 64mm burrs. Burrs in the Faustino are 50mm. Larger burrs generally = better grind quality as well as higher g/s grinding speed. Larger burrs dissipate more heat as well. Grind size adjustment on the E5P is more precise IMO. Here's the E5P: www.wholelattelove.com/products/ceado-e5p-electronic-coffee-grinder Hope that helps! Marc
Do you need to have the grinder running when making finer? Also, is this set by the factory for espresso? Do you turn knob clockwise to go finer and how much? Thanks
Hi Linda, if beans are in the grinder then it should be running when adjusting finer. If all beans are ground out then it does not need to be running. For espresso I’d set grind to finest setting and back off if needed - like if it’s getting bitter. Expect a few grind cycles for grind size changes to take affect in taste. There should be an indication of grind size near the adjustment. Smaller dots or lower numbers indicate a finer grind setting. Hope that helps! Marc
Weird question. Do you know if the grind setting dial from the Faustino could be fit on the Specialita? I was hoping so, since they are both made from Eureka. I find the dial from the Faustino quite a bit more substantial and the bigger size could help with precision.
Great review. Could this be used to grind coffee for a standard pot coffee maker im saving for a new 58 expresso maker but lookimg to get a grinder prior. To the machine
Hi P, Thanks for the comment and question. It could grind for drip coffee but I should mention some find espresso focused grinders produce more fines at drip grind sizes. For most it's not a big deal but if you're super particular then it might. Marc
Hey ACaT, Thanks for the question. Eureka makes the Faustino for Rocket. Internally, it uses the same design and similar components. Real difference is in the outside design. I do not consider the Faustino or Mignon line as commercial grinders. That said, some likely do use them in low volume commercial. For a step up in build quality you might have a look at Ceado grinders. A good comparison is the Ceado E6P. It has larger 64mm burrs and more robust internal components: www.wholelattelove.com/products/ceado-e6p-electronic-dosing-grinder-v2 Hope that helps! Marc
Hi Sanford, Thanks for the question. It's not as touchy as some grinders like the Eureka Mignon series which have a much smaller adjustment knob. Not quite as precise as grinders like many Ceados which have an adjustment collar which surrounds the hopper. Marc
This is a great introductory video to the Faustino. I was inspired by it and purchased one. I did make one mistake though. I removed the knob by rotating it counterclockwise. So, because this is an infinite adjustment knob, I lost its setting. In other words, I lost exactly how many clockwise turns to give to the knob to put it back to the range that came from the factory (the positioned that came from the box was close to ideal and all I had to do was to twist it just one or to marks either clockwise or counterclockwise to get right espresso flow and density that produces that rich crema in 20-30 seconds)...now I’m totally off and don’t quite seem to find that setting where the knob was before. How do I know I’m in the desired setting for espresso on the Faustino?
Hi C, Thanks for the comment and question. Here's what I would do to get back to espresso range. With no beans in the grinder run it and continue adjusting grind size finer just until you hear a change in sound which indicates the burrs are barely touching. Do not worry about the brief touching. The cutting edges of the burrs sit slightly below the outer non-cutting ring of the burr. As soon as you hear the sound change, back off a bit to return sound to normal. That position is the zero grind setting. From there you'll want to go a few turns of the knob coarser. Grind a few beans looking for grind which resembles a fineness of table salt or what from your past experience looks like espresso grind size. From there it's dialing in the size thru trial and error to get basically dialed in at 20 - 30 second extraction. If needed, I have this video on the dialing in process: th-cam.com/video/jOY7D02n4Cw/w-d-xo.html Hope that helps! Marc
Hi DR. CS, Thanks for the question. My apologies for a delayed response - I've been on vacation and offline for a week. Grind setting to use is the most common question I get. There's no right answer I can give due to the number of variables involved. But, I do have a video which details the very simple "dialing in" process which will get you to the right grind size for your variables: th-cam.com/video/jOY7D02n4Cw/w-d-xo.html Hope that helps! Marc
Hi AP, It depends a bit on what's important to you. If you want a machine grade grinder I'd go with the Faustino. It's much quieter than the Sette. The Sette is what I consider to be an appliance grade product with a lot of plastic used in construction and less robust motor. If grinding a lot I'd lean towards the Faustino. If doing less than 10 grind cycles a day and you're okay with a little more noise when grinding the 270Wi is very nice. It's hands free - have to keep your hands off when grinding so weighing works. The Wi nails weights to .2g cycle after cycle and the grinds are fluffy and well distributed. Takes any guessing about dose weight or weighing after grinding out of the equation. Marc
Hi Ben, I'll let you know in a couple years :) All kidding aside, it's going to be similar to other machine grade grinders - a very long time IMO. It will be much better than more "plasticky" appliance grade grinders. Is "With constant daily use..." referring to a commercial application? If so this is not a grinder I'd recommend for that. Marc
Hi Rob, Thanks for the question. So I love the Brewtus. Solid build (like a tank) and super price for the performance! Honestly, I think the Faustino is sexier than most with more modern lines/design. Of course that sexiness is in the eye of the beholder. Marc
Great review! It looks like Eureka - that’s because its Eureka who builds the grinders for Rocket. Just like the Fausto. But what a nice design. It’s very similar to the Eureka Mignon. Really like the display. This model makes the Fausto look very old :) This is gonna sell a lot of units I guess.
Marc you must have been a professional disc jockey, your voice and delivery is better than Frasier. Great video! Q. what would you chose to partner a Rocket Mozzafiato? A week ago I was happy with an iLLY Y3.2 using capsules with about 3grams of 6 month old coffee grinds....no longer my friend...no more appliances its machines all the way. Anybody looking for a secondhand watch the same price as a mozzafiato?
Hi SB, Well thank you for the compliment! Prior to my coffee life I did casual work as TV voice over artist. I hear you on the preground capsuled coffee. Convenient? Sure. High quality - nope! The Faustino grinder pairs well with Rocket's Mozzfiatto. Might also look at the Ceado E5P, E6P or E5SD featured in this video: th-cam.com/video/V-Fnu7R68Tc/w-d-xo.html Marc
I just hate that so many coffee products are coming out with touch pads. Yes, I understand that in theory they can last longer than buttons because no moving parts. However touch pads are unreliable and I often find myself missing the mark and having to touch multiple times.
Hi Mark! Late to the party, but any idea for home use, if it has a "sleep" mode or energy conserving issues? Or do you normally just shut it off after use say at the end of your morning until the next morning if I only drink in the AM or is that discouraged?
Hi TT, Late is never a problem. I monitor all of our more than 1300 videos for original comments. No sleep mode but the display does revert to showing just an "R" logo after a period of non-use. You can just turn it off when done but power consumption when idle is next to nothing. Hope that helps! Marc
ECM C Manuale is by far more pure authentic old style grinding, and a way better looking classy style grinder. There shouldn’t be digital displays on a grinder if you’re going for the classic Italian look! Winner=ECM C Manuale
Hi Casey, Thanks for the comment! The guy I'm talking to at the SCA show is Andrew Meo of Rocket. He's responsible for the external design/look of most of Rocket's products. In past conversations with him he's mentioned how he doesn't care for the look of digital displays on their espresso machines. That's why PID controls etc are either removable on machines like the R58 or hidden behind the drip tray on their Evo R and type V machines. I personally don't mind the display on the Faustino grinders. Helps that it's high contrast, can't be seen unless standing over the grinder and drops to the simple "R" logo when left idol. Marc
@@Wholelattelovepage I do own the Rocket Appartamento white cut outs and the ECM C grinder and together they are magnificent to look at! The traditional Italian look has never had digital displays! Great pointing out that Andrew decided to hide the PID display under the drip tray, there is a reason for that, digital displays take away from the authentic look!
Do you have any future plans of trying out/reviewing the Expobar Pulse 75 grinder? - www.creminternational.com/pulse-grinder/ As you have already showcased some of the other Expobar products, i was curious if this was on the map. It's relatively hard to find any info/videos online of the thing
Hi Martin, That's not good! A couple of things to try. First, power cycle. Unplug from wall for 10 seconds then plug back in. Second, Adjust the grind coarse, power cycle and try. If grind was adjusted finer without the grinder running the burrs can be bound with partially ground beans and the motor will not start. Never adjust grind finer without the grinder running. Hope that helps. If not, and you purchased the grinder from Whole Latte Love please call our Tech Support at 585-924-7170 for assistance. Marc
@@Wholelattelovepage If I was living in the US I would have bought it from you. Love you channel. I think I have adjusted it without having the motor running. So what do I do now?
Hi Marc! I got this beautiful grinder but I wonder why the portafilter holder is asymmetrical? Being so you always have to hold the portafilter during grinding because due to the vibrations during grinding, the portafilter will fall out of the holder. Is this intentional or just due to the design?
Hey Marc, I plan to buy the Profitec pro 600 . Would you recommend this grinder over the Eureka Mignon Specialita for pairing with the espresso machine?
Hi Ben, Thanks for the question. Here's a link to a side by side spec comparison of the Faustino and Specialita. I included the Ceado E5 Pro and E6P as well: www.wholelattelove.com/pages/compare?products=MjI2OTUwNTk0NTY1NCw0NjM3OTcxMzE2NzkwLDQ4ODQ5NzEzNTYyMTQsMTU0NTk1MTAxOTA2Nw The Ceados are a step up in build quality and burr size (64mm) from the Faustino and Specialita. FYI Eureka makes the Faustino for Rocket. IMO on price performance basis I'd go with the Specialita over the Faustino and the Ceados over everything else. Hope that helps! Marc
The eureka mignon specialita has 55mm burrs, is faster, more esthetically pleasing in my opinion (more colors available), has less retention and is cheaper. Choice is easy, Mignon wins!
Would be cool if Eureka had a mechanism for this or one of their proprietary grinders that properly held a bottomless portafilter in place for the grind. some sort of capturing/hugging device.
Can you imagine integrating a Homepod mini or an Amazon Echo ring inspite of that display? Hey Siri grind me a double...Alexa, grind 18gr a little coarser please...
Hi AO, If looking at grinders I'm guessing you are not super-automatic bean to cup kind of a person. But, the "Hey Siri make me a latte" functionality exists in Many Jura machines with their bluetooth smart connect and J.O.E. app for smartphones and tablets. See that in action here: th-cam.com/video/f189JUynYSw/w-d-xo.html Marc
Hi Ajdin, It's not really designed to be a single dose grinder but it can work. Some very minor popcorning of beans when grinding and you'll probably get a gram or so of grounds from the previous grind cycle mixed into the next. Marc
Please note this correction: In the video I said the Baratza Vario has 40mm burrs. That is incorrect! The Vario has 54mm ceramic burrs. Thanks to viewer Chris G. for catching my mistake.
Marc
Whole Latte Love is it really 50” high? 50cm
Collin Davis 15”
"It's a slow grinder" - its largest disadvantage. You know what? I love that it's slow. The aroma of freshly ground coffee is just so warm and welcoming, this sounds completely blissful to me. Slower also means that I have more time to ensure the ground coffee fills the basket evenly. I am smitten, it has everything I could ever want: funneled dosing, slow-ish grinding, simple display, low retention, quiet, relatively low cost, good-sized flat burrs, great accuracy... Can't wait to get it! Excellent review!
Hi Snowman, Thanks for the comment! Always nice to get the perspective of others!
Marc
I have had for a few weeks. I love the interface and the look is awesome. Feels really quality. Still learning how to dial in so its been busy lol.
Mark, I love your videos, you always seem so excited no matter what product you are reviewing.
You have pretty much swayed my choice between the Ceado E37S and the K30 so thanks for that!
Hi daniel, Thanks for the comment - I do have a bit of an obsession/passion for this stuff. So which grinder are you getting?
Marc
@@Wholelattelovepage decided to go with the Ceado E37S (when I do upgrade), seems just as good as the K30 but I'm really digging the ability to clean it with out having to worry about losing grind settings. Plus with the K30 going away the new E65s is a bit out of my range.
Wow! That blew my mind, Yet another amazing review, keep up the good work Mark. thanks
Hi FSM, I will and thank you for the comment!
Marc
One of the best reviewer in the business. Thank you for your video.
Wow, thanks for the kind comment - it's appreciated!
Marc
So that's why you guys were MIA from TH-cam... Totally worth the wait, though, as the new set deco looks amazing! Welcome back, Marc!
Hi Sebastian, Thanks for the comment - It's great to be back! Yes, we were off for a few weeks during the rebuild to take things up a notch or 3. There's a "whole latte" more to come with a second new set. The Whole Latte Love Labs set is ready to go for our tech heavy videos. Stay tuned!
Marc
Thank you for the review, it helped me to pick this model as my next grinder.
Hi AB, You are welcome and thanks for leaving your comment!
Marc
Very informative, You showed all relevant detail 👍🏻
Thanks!
Hey Jens, You are welcome and thanks a whole latte for taking a moment to leave a comment!
Marc
Oh man, appartemento + faustino like Fabolous combo.
Beautiful product. 👍
Hi A, A very stylish and capable combo!
Marc
The new set looks amazing Mark !!
Hi Pablo, Thanks for the comment! Appreciate the feedback!
Marc
Hi Mark! Thanks for this review. Would the grind retention level of the Faustino make it a good buy for single dosing?
I would like to compair to sette 270. also noice, grindspeed and precision. Thx!
i'm also interested in a comparison with Sette 270. I think that Faustino will replace my 3 years old Sette :D
Hi Mark, could you give your advice on dialling in the Faustino. Are you making single ‘notch’ adjustments or are you going down to half or even quarter ‘notch’ turn adjustments? Love the channel!
I have a Niche zero as my main grinder, but really want a flat burr grinder. I specifically want the matching grinder for my Rocket, but man I don’t want to waste anymore money on espresso equipment. 😩
great video 💪 Does the portafilter fork fit the Gaggia Classic Model 2019?
Hi Martin, Thanks for the comment and a great question! It's one I did not know the answer to until just a couple of minutes ago :). Just tried the Gaggia PF in Faustino fork and it does work. My initial thought was the slab design of the fork might be to thick but I was wrong.
Marc
Thank you Marc!
Hi Elliot, You are welcome and thanks for the comment!
Marc
what is the dosing cup you used in the video? at 7:36
Hey J, Thanks for the question. It's a grinding cup from a ROK manual espresso grinder I had in the studio. Similar and even better dosing cups are available from Acaia like this one: www.wholelattelove.com/products/acaia-portafilter-dosing-cup
Marc
How long goes the burs last. And can you replace them with the Eureka ones?
Hi n, Type of burrs in this grinder have a lifespan of >700kg grinding. Yes, proper Eureka burrs fit this grinder.
@@Wholelattelovepage Just bought it after your comment. It's a great grinder. Thank you very much. One more question would be how would I know it need the replacement?
Thanks Marc, great review! I will stick to my big Rocket Fausto.
Hi Cyrille, Thanks for the comment!
Marc
@ Cyrille:
...and I'm not getting rid of my Mazzer Electronic Type A grinder anytime soon...
However, if I upgrade my current (and since 2015) VBM espresso machine in the future to a Kees Van Der Westen "Speedster," then I'll likely pair it with a new grinder, too. ;-) -- BR
@@billredding2000 the Holy Grail...😍👌🏼👍🏼
@@cbeenhackker Yes...I expect it to do miracles. ;-)
-- BR
I am thinking of getting a fausto, now i have seen this i am not sure, for home use the faustino looks great. Are you happy wirh your fausto, which would you choose, have you had any problems, have you had it for a long time and is it quite. Thx in advance for your time should you respond. Just wanted to know for an actual owner.😎👍
While I'm not a fan of displays in grinders, I must admit one in Faustino is miles ahead of Fausto (in fact, old style display were one of reasons why I passed on 860E which is brother model of Fausto with 60mm burrs). And while I wouldn't choose grinder just because of looks, Faustino is matching Appartamento quite well and is a nice excuse to lean towards it. Other manufacturers also try to create sets of matching units so Rocket is going a known route.
Hi 1, Thank you for the comment. The display and appartamento style pairing are nice.
Marc
Hi Mark, what would be your preference out of this and a Eureka Specialita for a great home espresso grinder?
When you clean the burrs, is it a must to remove lower burr also? Can I use a "dust-buster" vac to blow out coffee? Thanks.
Hi LJ, No need to remove the lower burr. Yes you can use a vacuum or other air moving device.
Marc
Holy crap Marc got a haircut! Slick!
Hi rdbd, It's an evolution!
Thanks for the comment.
Marc
Great video! How does it perform in the cup vs a sette 270 for example?
Hi Kareem, Thanks for the comment and question. I have not attempted a side by side tasting with the Faustino and the Sette 270. I can say our staff is currently using a Eureka Mignon with 50mm burrs to grind for a Dalla Corte Mina flow profiling machine www.wholelattelove.com/products/dalla-corte-mina-110v in our staff kitchen with very good results. The Mignon is nearly identical in many respects to the Faustino including the 50mm hardened steel burrs. Prior to that we were using a Ceado E37SD as a grinder for the Mina. Our staff of coffee pros prefer the Ceado to the Mignon. Keep in mind the E37SD is a single dosing grinder with massive 83mm flat titanium coated burrs - an incredible espresso grinder: www.wholelattelove.com/products/ceado-e37sd-single-dose-coffee-grinder
Marc
@@Wholelattelovepage Thank you for the in depth response!
Another excellent video
Thanks 👍☕️
Hi Drive, You are welcome - thanks for the comment!
Marc
Hi Marc. This looks like a great grinder! I can't decide between this and the Fausto, which I'll probably pair with an Appartamento. All of the reviews seem to favour this machine - quieter and less clumping, but the Fausto must be better, surely? I don't want to upgrade again, so wary of paying a little less for the Faustino only to want better later on! What do you think? Currently using a Rancilio Rocky with a Gaggia Classic (from around 2000 and still going strong with no issues!). And machine-wise, I have started to look at at higher spec HX machine than an Appartamento, but each machine I look it leads to a higher and higher spec as I decide I 'need' PID, rotary pump, double boiler.... which then gets too expensive. Following the Italians' 4 M's rule, the machine is the last one, and I'm convinced (!) I can (or could!) get exceptional espresso and latte with a good grinder (the Fausto) and an entry level HX machine (Appartamento) set up (?) Many thanks for a great channel. I've spent quite a bit of my 'lock-down' looking at your guidance and reviews and, despite you being 'in-the-trade,' I've come to value and trust your expertise, judgement and honesty. Many thanks.
Is it secretly a Eureka mignon? It seems to share so many features 🤔 edit: oh yes, it is! Must be a commissioned build.
Ahhh I've been waiting for something like this ever since I got my Rocket Appartamento espresso machine. I've had it for about 2 years now and it's a fantastic machine for what I use it for. I currently just use a Baratza Encore Conical Burr Coffee Grinder which I weigh out my beast prior to grinding for a triple shot in a bottomless portafilter. Once ground I then dump the grounds into the portafilter distribute and tamp. I get pretty decent results, however I feel that I might be missing out on better coffee extraction.
Is there a huge benefit to having the grounds flow directly into the portafilter? I would maybe say less clumpy. However is going from $140 grinder to a $700 grinder going to give me that much better results?
Hi Joshua, Hi have an Encore at home. It's a wonderful grinder for drip etc. but is seriously lacking for espresso. Why? It's a stepped grinder so making very small changes in grind size is not possible. I can only recommend that level of grinder for use in pressurized baskets typically found in low cost entry-level espresso appliances. As you likely know grinding into the bin of the Encore then transferring to a PF is a PITA. Grinding into a PF usually results in better distribution of grounds. Good distribution is step one in preventing channeling through the coffee puck. You can appraise the quality of your distribution by watching shots develop in your bottomless PF. If things are good you'll get simultaneous development from all areas with no spurting. Stepping up to a grinder with better grind size adjustment, less clumping and good distribution will improve shots. Grinders which provide consistent time or weight based dosing can eliminate the need to weigh grinds separately. The Faustino is a machine grade grinder. You pay a little more for the robust build quality. If you'd like to take a less $$ step toward better grinding have a look at the Baratza 270. It's appliance grade in construction and much loader than the Faustino but produces beautiful fluffy clump free grinds with excellent distribution. It has stepless micro adjustment of grind size and is very consistent with dosing weights.
Marc
@@Wholelattelovepage Thanks Marc for the great feedback! Been a long time sub and you guys sold me on the Appartamento a few years back. Yes I will say that the one issue I do have with the current grind set up is that even though I try to distribute the gounds evenly and have proper distribution and tamp, I still sometimes end up with spurting in the bottomless PF. My flow is good, but I think it could always be better. I've had my eye on the Baratza 270 for a while now and I think it would be a good upgrade from my current grinder without breaking the bank. I just don't think I could jump to a 700-900$ grinder at the moment as I would have to convince my better half. :) Thanks for the input. I'm not too concerned about noise as anything could be better than the Encore
The 270 will be a massive improvement!
Marc
Whole Latte Love also while I have you on topic of my rocket appartamento. I turned it on this morning ans the machine got heated up however I came back to it and I noticed it powered off and had tripped the wall outlet circuit. I reset and plugged back in and it tripped as soon as I flicked the switch. I tried other things in the plus and they seem to work fine. Is there a fuse in the machine that might have blown. Thanks so much for any help.
God what a great voice
Is this grinder suitable for filter coffee (chemex) as well or purely espresso?
Hi JT, Could use for Chemex but its more of an espresso specialist and espresso grinders tend to produce more fines at coarser grind sizes. My favorite and best value grinder for your brew method is the Baratza Virtuoso+: www.wholelattelove.com/products/baratza-virtuoso-coffee-grinder
Marc
Hi Mark, Love your explanations with great voice :)
Just a question, can i use this grinder for coffee lab purpose ? I am q-grader and establishing a small coffee lab . So price wise would be ideal than 3k Mahlkönig grinders. Thanks
Hi w, Thanks for the comment and question. It's possible to use for that purpose. Guessing you'd be weighing after grinding for grading. If the timing function is not important to you I'd have a look at the Ceado E5P as well - currently priced below the Faustino. It's a manual on demand grinder so no timed function (Ceado E6P is same specs as E5P but with timed grinding for more $$) and larger 64mm burrs. Burrs in the Faustino are 50mm. Larger burrs generally = better grind quality as well as higher g/s grinding speed. Larger burrs dissipate more heat as well. Grind size adjustment on the E5P is more precise IMO. Here's the E5P: www.wholelattelove.com/products/ceado-e5p-electronic-coffee-grinder
Hope that helps!
Marc
Nice video :D
Glad you liked it
Do you need to have the grinder running when making finer? Also, is this set by the factory for espresso? Do you turn knob clockwise to go finer and how much? Thanks
Hi Linda, if beans are in the grinder then it should be running when adjusting finer. If all beans are ground out then it does not need to be running. For espresso I’d set grind to finest setting and back off if needed - like if it’s getting bitter. Expect a few grind cycles for grind size changes to take affect in taste. There should be an indication of grind size near the adjustment. Smaller dots or lower numbers indicate a finer grind setting. Hope that helps!
Marc
What is the cover around the screen made of? Hoping It's not plastic.
Thanks for the review!
Hi L, Thanks for the comment. Sorry to dash your hopes but it is plastic.
Marc
Weird question. Do you know if the grind setting dial from the Faustino could be fit on the Specialita? I was hoping so, since they are both made from Eureka. I find the dial from the Faustino quite a bit more substantial and the bigger size could help with precision.
Hi MFM, Not weird at all - and I'm with you in preferring the more substantial knob on the Faustino! Sorry to inform it will not fit :(.
Marc
@@Wholelattelovepage Many thanks for the lighting fast reply. Happy New Year!
Great review. Could this be used to grind coffee for a standard pot coffee maker im saving for a new 58 expresso maker but lookimg to get a grinder prior. To the machine
Hi P, Thanks for the comment and question. It could grind for drip coffee but I should mention some find espresso focused grinders produce more fines at drip grind sizes. For most it's not a big deal but if you're super particular then it might.
Marc
That’s a good grind ratio my Baratza sette sometimes is off by that amount. Less retention though.
Hi Dirk, Thanks for the comment!
Marc
Hi Mark, is the faustino considered a low-budget commercial grade grinder as compared to eureka mignons like specialita, perfetto or silencio?
Hey ACaT, Thanks for the question. Eureka makes the Faustino for Rocket. Internally, it uses the same design and similar components. Real difference is in the outside design. I do not consider the Faustino or Mignon line as commercial grinders. That said, some likely do use them in low volume commercial. For a step up in build quality you might have a look at Ceado grinders. A good comparison is the Ceado E6P. It has larger 64mm burrs and more robust internal components: www.wholelattelove.com/products/ceado-e6p-electronic-dosing-grinder-v2
Hope that helps!
Marc
Hello. Do you find the grind adjustment has a good sweeping range or do very slight changes make a big difference in timing of a shot? Thanks!
Hi Sanford, Thanks for the question. It's not as touchy as some grinders like the Eureka Mignon series which have a much smaller adjustment knob. Not quite as precise as grinders like many Ceados which have an adjustment collar which surrounds the hopper.
Marc
Matching Apartamento.... I really didn't need to see this....
Oops - sorry! lol
Lol they removed the Seattle Coffee Gear logo from the back of the guy's shirt at the Expo.
They're competitors XD! Love both though.
This is a great introductory video to the Faustino. I was inspired by it and purchased one. I did make one mistake though. I removed the knob by rotating it counterclockwise. So, because this is an infinite adjustment knob, I lost its setting. In other words, I lost exactly how many clockwise turns to give to the knob to put it back to the range that came from the factory (the positioned that came from the box was close to ideal and all I had to do was to twist it just one or to marks either clockwise or counterclockwise to get right espresso flow and density that produces that rich crema in 20-30 seconds)...now I’m totally off and don’t quite seem to find that setting where the knob was before.
How do I know I’m in the desired setting for espresso on the Faustino?
Hi C, Thanks for the comment and question. Here's what I would do to get back to espresso range. With no beans in the grinder run it and continue adjusting grind size finer just until you hear a change in sound which indicates the burrs are barely touching. Do not worry about the brief touching. The cutting edges of the burrs sit slightly below the outer non-cutting ring of the burr. As soon as you hear the sound change, back off a bit to return sound to normal. That position is the zero grind setting. From there you'll want to go a few turns of the knob coarser. Grind a few beans looking for grind which resembles a fineness of table salt or what from your past experience looks like espresso grind size. From there it's dialing in the size thru trial and error to get basically dialed in at 20 - 30 second extraction. If needed, I have this video on the dialing in process: th-cam.com/video/jOY7D02n4Cw/w-d-xo.html
Hope that helps!
Marc
Whole Latte Love thanks a lot! Love your videos by the way.
Can you please provide any insight on what grind setting to use and for how long to make a double shot cappuccino? New to the game here... thanks!
Hi DR. CS, Thanks for the question. My apologies for a delayed response - I've been on vacation and offline for a week. Grind setting to use is the most common question I get. There's no right answer I can give due to the number of variables involved. But, I do have a video which details the very simple "dialing in" process which will get you to the right grind size for your variables: th-cam.com/video/jOY7D02n4Cw/w-d-xo.html
Hope that helps!
Marc
Hi Mark, which grinder would you suggest Baratza Sette 270Wi or the Faustino? I’m looking to buy one.
Hi AP, It depends a bit on what's important to you. If you want a machine grade grinder I'd go with the Faustino. It's much quieter than the Sette. The Sette is what I consider to be an appliance grade product with a lot of plastic used in construction and less robust motor. If grinding a lot I'd lean towards the Faustino. If doing less than 10 grind cycles a day and you're okay with a little more noise when grinding the 270Wi is very nice. It's hands free - have to keep your hands off when grinding so weighing works. The Wi nails weights to .2g cycle after cycle and the grinds are fluffy and well distributed. Takes any guessing about dose weight or weighing after grinding out of the equation.
Marc
Whole Latte Love Thank you for your honest opinion! I think Faustino is the way to go for me!
But how does it hold up over time? With constant daily use how long does it take for wear and tear to affect the grind variation
Hi Ben, I'll let you know in a couple years :) All kidding aside, it's going to be similar to other machine grade grinders - a very long time IMO. It will be much better than more "plasticky" appliance grade grinders. Is "With constant daily use..." referring to a commercial application? If so this is not a grinder I'd recommend for that.
Marc
Man they look beautiful. Gotta get me one just to look at 😁
Hi Adam, Yes they do - I really like the design!
Matc
Modern finish and design to add to Rocket lineup.
Hi AA, Thanks for the comment!
Marc
But the shoot g/s if too slow that might be an average rate in its class, however thank you for the review and the reply.
So its a eureka in a rocket frock? Seems to me the specialita is better value, and better performing.
Yes.
start selling that shirt !
This is basically a Eureka Mignon. I'd get the Mignon Specialita over this any day of the week.
Hi Devlin, Thanks for sharing your opinion.
Marc
Yeah. this looks great! But Eurkea makes them, so I guess you cant go wrong either way.
@@howdyitsdavid except the Specialita has bigger burrs. The Compaq K3 is also a better deal.
@@devlin2427 Yeah I've got a Specialita. Pretty happy with it.
Devlin M. I’m getting a Rocket Fausto.
What would you folks say is the Expobar Brewtus of grinders? You know, solid build, solid results, but not quite as sexy as the others
Hi Rob, Thanks for the question. So I love the Brewtus. Solid build (like a tank) and super price for the performance! Honestly, I think the Faustino is sexier than most with more modern lines/design. Of course that sexiness is in the eye of the beholder.
Marc
Great review!
It looks like Eureka - that’s because its Eureka who builds the grinders for Rocket. Just like the Fausto. But what a nice design. It’s very similar to the Eureka Mignon.
Really like the display. This model makes the Fausto look very old :)
This is gonna sell a lot of units I guess.
Hi Q, Thanks for the comments! Right on all accounts and as mentioned it's an eye catching design!
Marc
Marc you must have been a professional disc jockey, your voice and delivery is better than Frasier. Great video! Q. what would you chose to partner a Rocket Mozzafiato?
A week ago I was happy with an iLLY Y3.2 using capsules with about 3grams of 6 month old coffee grinds....no longer my friend...no more appliances its machines all the way. Anybody looking for a secondhand watch the same price as a mozzafiato?
Hi SB, Well thank you for the compliment! Prior to my coffee life I did casual work as TV voice over artist.
I hear you on the preground capsuled coffee. Convenient? Sure. High quality - nope! The Faustino grinder pairs well with Rocket's Mozzfiatto. Might also look at the Ceado E5P, E6P or E5SD featured in this video: th-cam.com/video/V-Fnu7R68Tc/w-d-xo.html
Marc
I just hate that so many coffee products are coming out with touch pads.
Yes, I understand that in theory they can last longer than buttons because no moving parts.
However touch pads are unreliable and I often find myself missing the mark and having to touch multiple times.
I hope Rocket paid Eureka for using their patented grind adjustment design
Hi Allen, 100% they did!
Marc
Eurkea makes these for Rocket.
Hi Mark! Late to the party, but any idea for home use, if it has a "sleep" mode or energy conserving issues? Or do you normally just shut it off after use say at the end of your morning until the next morning if I only drink in the AM or is that discouraged?
Hi TT, Late is never a problem. I monitor all of our more than 1300 videos for original comments. No sleep mode but the display does revert to showing just an "R" logo after a period of non-use. You can just turn it off when done but power consumption when idle is next to nothing. Hope that helps!
Marc
ECM C Manuale is by far more pure authentic old style grinding, and a way better looking classy style grinder. There shouldn’t be digital displays on a grinder if you’re going for the classic Italian look! Winner=ECM C Manuale
Hi Casey, Thanks for the comment! The guy I'm talking to at the SCA show is Andrew Meo of Rocket. He's responsible for the external design/look of most of Rocket's products. In past conversations with him he's mentioned how he doesn't care for the look of digital displays on their espresso machines. That's why PID controls etc are either removable on machines like the R58 or hidden behind the drip tray on their Evo R and type V machines. I personally don't mind the display on the Faustino grinders. Helps that it's high contrast, can't be seen unless standing over the grinder and drops to the simple "R" logo when left idol.
Marc
@@Wholelattelovepage I do own the Rocket Appartamento white cut outs and the ECM C grinder and together they are magnificent to look at! The traditional Italian look has never had digital displays! Great pointing out that Andrew decided to hide the PID display under the drip tray, there is a reason for that, digital displays take away from the authentic look!
Do you have any future plans of trying out/reviewing the Expobar Pulse 75 grinder? - www.creminternational.com/pulse-grinder/
As you have already showcased some of the other Expobar products, i was curious if this was on the map. It's relatively hard to find any info/videos online of the thing
I bought this a few days ago. Today it stopped working. It's not grinding only doing a count down. It has only done a few shots
Hi Martin, That's not good! A couple of things to try. First, power cycle. Unplug from wall for 10 seconds then plug back in. Second, Adjust the grind coarse, power cycle and try. If grind was adjusted finer without the grinder running the burrs can be bound with partially ground beans and the motor will not start. Never adjust grind finer without the grinder running. Hope that helps. If not, and you purchased the grinder from Whole Latte Love please call our Tech Support at 585-924-7170 for assistance.
Marc
@@Wholelattelovepage If I was living in the US I would have bought it from you. Love you channel.
I think I have adjusted it without having the motor running. So what do I do now?
@@Wholelattelovepage It is working now. But the one shot button are still broken
Hi Marc! I got this beautiful grinder but I wonder why the portafilter holder is asymmetrical? Being so you always have to hold the portafilter during grinding because due to the vibrations during grinding, the portafilter will fall out of the holder. Is this intentional or just due to the design?
Hi h, Thanks for the comment and question. I think the falling out depends on the PF being used. With some designs being more secure than others.
Marc
Hey Marc, I plan to buy the Profitec pro 600 . Would you recommend this grinder over the Eureka Mignon Specialita for pairing with the espresso machine?
Hi Ben, Thanks for the question. Here's a link to a side by side spec comparison of the Faustino and Specialita. I included the Ceado E5 Pro and E6P as well: www.wholelattelove.com/pages/compare?products=MjI2OTUwNTk0NTY1NCw0NjM3OTcxMzE2NzkwLDQ4ODQ5NzEzNTYyMTQsMTU0NTk1MTAxOTA2Nw
The Ceados are a step up in build quality and burr size (64mm) from the Faustino and Specialita. FYI Eureka makes the Faustino for Rocket. IMO on price performance basis I'd go with the Specialita over the Faustino and the Ceados over everything else.
Hope that helps!
Marc
The eureka mignon specialita has 55mm burrs, is faster, more esthetically pleasing in my opinion (more colors available), has less retention and is cheaper. Choice is easy, Mignon wins!
Hi Simon, Thanks for sharing your thoughts! Not sure where you are but pricing is about the same here in US.
Marc
@@Wholelattelovepage based in Canada. But I just checked and the pricing is about the same too! I checked before and there was a 100$ difference.
Is there an option for a shorter hopper?
Hi Ryan, Thanks for the question. Stock hopper is the only option I'm aware of.
Marc
Would be cool if Eureka had a mechanism for this or one of their proprietary grinders that properly held a bottomless portafilter in place for the grind. some sort of capturing/hugging device.
Hi rbdb, I agree - they need to add a hook to grab top lip of the PF. At least offer as an accessory.
Can I have this grinder for free?
Please?
Lol, love your name!
Marc
Can you imagine integrating a Homepod mini or an Amazon Echo ring inspite of that display? Hey Siri grind me a double...Alexa, grind 18gr a little coarser please...
Hi AO, If looking at grinders I'm guessing you are not super-automatic bean to cup kind of a person. But, the "Hey Siri make me a latte" functionality exists in Many Jura machines with their bluetooth smart connect and J.O.E. app for smartphones and tablets. See that in action here: th-cam.com/video/f189JUynYSw/w-d-xo.html
Marc
How does it perform as a single dose grinder ?
Hi Ajdin, It's not really designed to be a single dose grinder but it can work. Some very minor popcorning of beans when grinding and you'll probably get a gram or so of grounds from the previous grind cycle mixed into the next.
Marc
Whole Latte Love thank you