Thanks for the demo, and for the admonition to be careful with lead white I would also add cadmiums, and a number of other pigments to this list. Also, yellow ocher, and raw sienna, although earth pigments, the natural versions can contain crystalline silica, and you don't want that in the lungs either.
You are lucky then :) We have covered the first twelve sessions of this self-portrait on our Patreon. You can watch the preview of the first session here: th-cam.com/video/tADMgY4FCi8/w-d-xo.html
They used pumice stones, or pumice- sandpaper would not be a thing for a long time yet due to the inconvenience of gluing- paper was expensive and attaining abrasives to form a good abrasive surface over paper- too much work. A pumice stone imparts its own slurry of pumice, and makes a nice polishing effects as you go- there is a technique all of its own to this method, and it has advantages involving the flat nature of the stones- anyway... perhaps they might learn this and do a video about it?? Hint Hint*
I think this is a good portrait. Who am I? Lol U don’t require my validation, but I wanted to pay u a compliment. Thank u for the content. Also, being that I am getting up in age myself, I hope Mr. Nerdrum is doing well. The best to all of u! Cheers from Missouri (a midwestern state in the U.S.) ✌🏻
I’m french so may be i misunderstood. What’s the point to sand it ? To make it appear old ? Or repaint over then after (but if this idea why not directly paint over ?)
80 grit!? Ok, I guess your canvas is made using Brutalism techniques anyway... I never take anything less than 220 grit on my panels. Panels. Taking sandpaper onto a textured canvas- I would be afraid I'd get into the bare canvas using 80 grit- doesn't take much. I use automotive sand papers to wet sand a well dried painting, just to prep the surface for new layers. 600, and 800 grits make very little impact on the look of the piece, but abrade the surface well enough that the surface tension is broken and you can start with far better adhesion. The finer the grit, the better the "scratching" and more tooth is imparted into the surface ironically so, due to the smaller grains, it can do this with less impact over the surface. Wet sanding also allows you to sand cadmium and lead without fear of dust... so all you need is gloves and lots of paper towels to clean up. The smaller grits leave the integrity of the layers intake, but offers the benefit of adhesion for the next layers. So, I guess I am saying- right idea, wrong execution? (yeah... I went there... lol)
@@e.g.1218 No, I use regular water- mainly to make sure there is no dust- I use lead white. After, I wash the piece off, (with water and alcohol) and let it dry for at least two hours.
I would have stopped the video and make myself comfortable. A steady surface is essential dont you think? On the haters i really dont see why they waste their time. This is a technique than can be used in any contemorary setting. If the people in northern europe like this fairy moods let them be man. I am very grateful for all the free advice. A caballo regalao no se le miran los dientes. No sean desagradecidos. Thanks! Great demo.
How will you ever free yourself from the clutches of Odd Nerdrum. All his students paint only worse versions of Nerdrum. But what's worse is that it's this kind of kitsch that's to blame for the fact that you hardly ever see contemporary realist painting in museums anymore.
I feel the greatest success out of Nerdrum's mentorship is Guillermo Lorca, and I think the main reason he is the most successful is because he departed so profoundly from Nerdrum's style and paved his own way in his artistic practice. ^_^
Thought you were painting the lovely Alistar, your films are so relaxing thank you
Thanks for the demo, and for the admonition to be careful with lead white I would also add cadmiums, and a number of other pigments to this list. Also, yellow ocher, and raw sienna, although earth pigments, the natural versions can contain crystalline silica, and you don't want that in the lungs either.
Jan-Ove Tuv would like to see how you start and build up a self-portrait,I really like the one in the video :)
You are lucky then :)
We have covered the first twelve sessions of this self-portrait on our Patreon. You can watch the preview of the first session here:
th-cam.com/video/tADMgY4FCi8/w-d-xo.html
@@SchoolofApellesthis is what we call high level skill.Very helpful😮
Nice! Did the old masters use sandpaper?
They used pumice stones, or pumice- sandpaper would not be a thing for a long time yet due to the inconvenience of gluing- paper was expensive and attaining abrasives to form a good abrasive surface over paper- too much work. A pumice stone imparts its own slurry of pumice, and makes a nice polishing effects as you go- there is a technique all of its own to this method, and it has advantages involving the flat nature of the stones- anyway... perhaps they might learn this and do a video about it?? Hint Hint*
great video. I have heard talk of sanding down paintings in your podcast, but not quite understood how it works. Thank you
What colour did you paint for the background in this portrait? Is it yellow ochre
Do you give it again any impasto textures after sanding?
Thank you! Very helpful.
I think this is a good portrait. Who am I? Lol
U don’t require my validation, but I wanted to pay u a compliment.
Thank u for the content.
Also, being that I am getting up in age myself, I hope Mr. Nerdrum is doing well.
The best to all of u! Cheers from Missouri (a midwestern state in the U.S.) ✌🏻
So Cool!
Guauu
Esculpiendo la pintura.
Me encantó.
Gracias
Thanks ❤
You might remove gesso by this....which is bad for painting?
white is thicker paint than dark, right?
Are there any dangers of particle inhalation with this technique?
Watch the last part of the video!
isn't the painting too low down to work on optimally?
self portrait?
I’m french so may be i misunderstood. What’s the point to sand it ? To make it appear old ? Or repaint over then after (but if this idea why not directly paint over ?)
80 grit!? Ok, I guess your canvas is made using Brutalism techniques anyway... I never take anything less than 220 grit on my panels. Panels. Taking sandpaper onto a textured canvas- I would be afraid I'd get into the bare canvas using 80 grit- doesn't take much.
I use automotive sand papers to wet sand a well dried painting, just to prep the surface for new layers. 600, and 800 grits make very little impact on the look of the piece, but abrade the surface well enough that the surface tension is broken and you can start with far better adhesion. The finer the grit, the better the "scratching" and more tooth is imparted into the surface ironically so, due to the smaller grains, it can do this with less impact over the surface. Wet sanding also allows you to sand cadmium and lead without fear of dust... so all you need is gloves and lots of paper towels to clean up. The smaller grits leave the integrity of the layers intake, but offers the benefit of adhesion for the next layers. So, I guess I am saying- right idea, wrong execution? (yeah... I went there... lol)
To wet sand you use oil?
@@e.g.1218 No, I use regular water- mainly to make sure there is no dust- I use lead white. After, I wash the piece off, (with water and alcohol) and let it dry for at least two hours.
@@chrisgriffith1573 Ah ok, I've seen someone use oil. MIxed water and alcohol or one and then the other?
@@e.g.1218 ... I just use the water to wash the dust and pumice away- you could use any liquid. Soap and water, vinegar and water, idc.
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Also careful with cadmium based pigments.
How would you recommend cleaning brushes that got cadmium on it?
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I would have stopped the video and make myself comfortable. A steady surface is essential dont you think?
On the haters i really dont see why they waste their time. This is a technique than can be used in any contemorary setting. If the people in northern europe like this fairy moods let them be man.
I am very grateful for all the free advice.
A caballo regalao no se le miran los dientes. No sean desagradecidos.
Thanks! Great demo.
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Ok, but sooner or later one has to paint, not sand. A painting is made of brush strokes.
thank you COVID for the easy aquisition of masks!
How will you ever free yourself from the clutches of Odd Nerdrum. All his students paint only worse versions of Nerdrum. But what's worse is that it's this kind of kitsch that's to blame for the fact that you hardly ever see contemporary realist painting in museums anymore.
What absolute twaddle.
I feel the greatest success out of Nerdrum's mentorship is Guillermo Lorca, and I think the main reason he is the most successful is because he departed so profoundly from Nerdrum's style and paved his own way in his artistic practice. ^_^