As a child of the 90's, the more you hate Gale, the more I'm going to double down on this. He's my best friend, my pal. My sweet cheese. My rotten solider. My good time boi. th-cam.com/video/7ohtCmSoLl4/w-d-xo.html
Trauma effects people differently and Gale had a very different reaction to the one Katniss and Peeta had. I don’t think his reaction was any less valid but a lot of people do.
Lol, I had a feeling you would purposely double down 😅 but in all seriousness, people forget you have only read the first book from Katniss's POV of course is team Gale right now he has had her back from what we know so far.
Ehhh. I rooted for Gale too when I first saw the movie and read the book. It was when I was reading Catching Fire I changed teams. Let’s be patient with our new friend here.
You have the knowledge of hindsight. He doesn't and doesn't see what Gale becomes (not that Gale is exactly awful or a bad person, he just becomes someone who isn't right for Katniss). Go easy on him, he was new.
@elistari1050 Yes, I mean, the rage was not directed towards him. Even if he still ends up liking Gale, it would be his opinion. I just personally feel enraged every time I hear that character's name because I hate him 👍🏻
Keep in mind, Gale wants to make sure Katniss has a winning mentality. Peeta is a 16 year old who KNOWS he’s going to die because there’s no way he’d choose to survive over Katniss. Of course he’s crying. Although, the love story angle was Peeta’s strategy to make Katniss more likeable to the vapid Capitol audience. Just because he wasn’t all testosterone-fueled killer, that doesn’t mean he wasn’t working to protect the protagonist.
We need a Peeta's pov book. We didn't need a pov of Grey or everyone else. I was so disappointed when I heard Collins is giving us another book after so many years and I wasn't for him 😂
@@DesAnanieva i bring to your attention "Peeta's Games" aka, a fanwritten trilogy that follows the original books, but from Peeta's perspective, they are absolutely AMAZING!! i 100% recommend, the author recently started writing Haymitch's games as well
The thing is that when reading in Katnis pov she can’t fathom the thought of Peeta having actual feelings for her so she sees most of his acts as suspicious almost as how she can’t really recognize that she is actually pretty liked in her district
Exactly! “They only have fond feelings towards me because of my dad and sister” of course Katniss, it couldn’t be because the whole district saw how you stepped up after your dad died and took care of your family and brought fresh meat and herbs and stuff back to the district. Couldn’t be anything to do with you! She can’t understand that people (including Peeta) like her!
Cato being given a moment of humanity and sympathy at the end is so important and I think it's something in the film adds that really enriches the story. Step back from the thrill ride of a good drama, and let yourself remember that every single child there, including all of the "careers", were victims. The girl that Thresh killed who seemed like a psychopath--she was 14 or 15. Cato was what, 17? Collins does a great job of making some of them vicious and hateable, which is great for a story, but Cato's history is just as devastating as Katniss's. He was indoctrinated to be a child soldier his entire life, given a lie that this would glorify and give meaning to his life, and then when he gets there and he commits the atrocities he's been primed to commit... He's faced with the brutal realization that he never had a chance. Someone else was more skilled. And now he's going to die meaninglessly, a tribute like all the rest, his flesh fed to mutations while the capital cheers. It's a dark book.
I agree that Cato needed that moment but wish it had been done like in the book, he mouths "Help me" doesn't he when he's being eaten? I feel like that moment is more real about how the careers feel about the Capitol. Most are loyal to the very end, so in the book it's that one moment but it felt rushed in the movie. The capitol in the book is SAVAGE and ruthless - i didnt feel that with the movie.
Kato realizing that he was a walking corpse who only serves as entertainment for the Capital at the end is pretty perfect. Not sure why giving voice to that realization makes him a b**ch. Also the ridiculousness of hating either Gale or Peta has always been insane to me. They're just kids in a totalitarian state that like a girl and struggle to survive. One wants to fight. The other has to fight. And they both show how they feel about Katniss throughout that madness the best they can. Confusion, chaos, and occasional selfishness is all understandable. The only thing more ridiculous than hating either of them is folks that criticize Katniss for getting close with both and struggling to decide. She's a kid that is so tormented that she can't even come close to figuring out how she feels. That's even more realistic.🤷😂
100%. I don’t hate Gale or Peeta, though I do understand the preferences. Like you, I appreciate that ALL the tributes were victims, even Cato, Clove, Marvel and Glimmer.
Thank you. Hating Gale is ridiculous. He is a product of his environment who also has had to provide for his mum and three siblings since he was 14, and at the end of the day he is just a sad and angry kid (rightfully so) who lives in a shitty world.
But Peeta didn’t want to be trained separately because he viewed her as a threat, he wanted to work separately so he could protect her because he knew he had no shot at winning but she did. And he didn’t want to be a killer.
(Respectfully) this feels like unsubstantiated theory. There are a dozen ways to help her out that "protect" her and none of them involve hiding his training methods. He could've trained with her and still joined the Careers
Honestly I also don't think Peeta was being selfish by training on his own, I think he was just not interest in having to prove himself. Katniss was always saying he was also good with things, and he just wanted do die in peace without having to fight for it. This training alone thing begins after her scores are so high, and I feel like he just doesn't want any pitty. But I agree, the protecting her thing has nothing to do with it.
@@lynmoore_ I always read it as him wanting to be able to talk to Haymitch about his strategy (telling Caesar about his feelings for Katniss) without her being around.
@@lynmoore_I think you’re forgetting that the training that he wanted separate was about the interview where he confessed to having a massive crush on Katniss. He wanted help with it but he couldn’t let Katniss know his plan otherwise she would have stopped him. All their other training was together.
@@lynmoore_ I get what you're saying. But he KNEW he had no chance of winning. So his mission became to make sure Katniss did, so he had to keep the whole romance thing a secret so she could react naturally. I dont think there's ever any indication that he'd be ready to kill her, however, Katniss was always going to kill him
The revolution in Rue’s district puts me to tears INSTANTLY. It’s something you don’t get from the book because it’s from her POV, but it is SO effective for the movie.
We ARE in Katniss's head for the Reaping - or at least, for part of it. Showing Prim tuck in her duck tail is 100% Katniss-O-Vision. We're seeing all the things that Katniss is taking in while she's in shock the same way she is - in little pieces. Prim's braids, her mom's apathy, the untucked shirt, etc. It's not telling us what Katniss is thinking, but it's making us FEEL what Katniss is feeling.
Yeah, there's a lot of misunderstanding about Peeta here. And while Peeta is one of my favourites in the series, I say this because contextually it should be pretty obvious. Everything he did was to save Katniss and not himself. If you look at his actions from start to finish they are always to either help Katniss, whether it's training separately from Katniss to make a plan with Haymitch followed by revealing his secret (what would be the reason to do that other than to make her more likeable), talking her skills up, joining the careers when he already has a target on his back, fighting off Cato to protect Katniss and almost getting mortally wounded, not even attempting to kill Katniss at the end even though they were in close range and he could have easily grabbed her and killed her (straight away he tosses his weapon aside and, like you said, unravels his tourniquet to speed up the process). He does a lot for her in the book but as we see scenes from Katniss' perspective, and she is also confused about his motives, you have to look at his journey overall. As far as your love for Gale, Gale is a nice guy but he's literally in 1 (briefly 2) chapters. He's a stand-up guy looking out for his family and Katniss' but we don't see any more than that. I do tend to find a lot of male reactors really love Gale in the beginning tho. On a completely different topic, the reason they pull the bodies out is not because of the mutts (although they can use them if they want to) they always pull them out due to [a] previous tribute resorting to cannibalism. 😧
the movies don’t capture the cruelty and the trauma like the books. they made it more about the love triangle instead of the issues of war. can’t wait for u to read the rest!
No literally. Ignoring a lot of the mental and physical disabilities the characters went through I think is the biggest flaws of the movies. But again as he said, it would’ve been an R rating if they went for a scene by scene adaptation
I love our bread boy but let’s stop our urge to recruit every reactor to our team by hinting about Gale and let them slowly figure it out. 😂 He’s fresh here from the first book.
I read the books & watched the movies there are some inconsistencies but in the movies Gale acts like a lovesick whiny baby. I think he took for granted that they’d end up together & I’m not sure she really knew how she felt about him at that time in her life. The subsequent movies flesh that out more as she grows.
I always thought he wanted to train separate so the trainers could spend more time with katniss. Peeta knew he couldn’t win and he didn’t want Katniss wasting her time trying to protect him.
Love this video! Did notice a few things though: - Rue did in fact put those leaves on her, and this happened in the book as well - The tributes are not just picked up to be turned into mutated wolves - I don’t remember which book Katniss says this in but they had an issue with someone doing cannibalism in a previous game (the capitol killed that kid for it) so presumably at least part of the reason dead tributes get picked up is so there is no option of cannibalism.
Yes, I notice this happen a lot too, really strange. I wonder whether it's because they see him as the typical full masculine, protective guy Katniss "should" want, even though most female readers see Peeta's subtle selflessness and deep care for Katniss even from early on. I also (unfortunately) wonder whether they feel Gale is somewhat more "worthy" of a choice because he knew and protected Katniss for longer, as if that somehow entitles him to her love in return? 😬 Hope not but that's the vibe I often get, tbh I think most people end up team Peeta by the end (cause how can you not???) but I can't recall ever being team Gale myself?
@@viam14 I guess most of the book readers specially after Catching fire knew Peeta is the one. ‼️Spoiler ahead‼️ The movies also took so many lines from him then added some scenes for Gale. Tackling Commander Thread would never not make me cringe. Like that would have immediately put bullet through his head, not just get whipped. Some reactors applaud him for that not realizing how stupid it was. Gale would only yap about the Capitol in the woods with Katniss bc they were careful and knew just how easily they could get killed for letting something stupid slip. I can’t recall ever being team Gale either. 😅 and this reactor saying that the perspective of Gale watching the games and seeing Katniss kiss Peeta puts things to mind. Like what sir? They’re just friends. Should I feel guilt-tripped by Gale as well? Katniss have enough of that going already.
Omg so true. And it is funny because, we always assume (wrongly) that women are who used to love the bad guys and we are always rootting for them, but every female person I know who has read the books, prefers the care and vulnerabilty of Peeta for obvious reasons.
@@marinamacia9951 🤣 “I can fix him.” Says only the girls that only saw the movies (and Liam) and few that read the books. He have merits but damn, boy [redacted] it all up. He gazed too long into the abyss. Peeta, through Katniss’ eyes, really took root and planted himself like the dandelion he is on most of readers’ hearts. Most men looks at the boys and sees Gale as the stronger one, most young women/women sees Peeta as the stronger one. It’s just that we look at them through different lenses and applauds different strengths. Their respective battlefields in Mockingjay showed us who fought their demons well.
@@lovequinn7521 That last paragraph of your comment, completely spot on. You worded that so well! It's totally about what strength we value, and about what tests Gale and Peeta are given in the end!
I remember seeing a really good explanation on why there is more Gale screen content than Gale book content “the irony of the Hunger Games is that the media in the book and the media in the real world both chose to focus on the love story instead of the rebellion.” (Quoted from a tumblr post). Unfortunately the book(s) and movie(s) do differ from each other in some important aspects but the movies are still really good thanks to Susanne Collins being involved in the production. Once you finish the series I also think you’ll be on the full Peeta bandwagon but alas we still have to get there lol
10:34 they gave him those lines to show that he's a victim, groomed for consumption since puberty. (Careers are brainwsshed into thinking that volunteering is worth the gamble, the possibility of money &honor is worth risking death) Its not in the book because Katniss, being his age and a lower district, doesnt percieve him as the powerless child he really is.
Gale was actually a really decent guy, he doesn’t deserve the hate he gets…but Peeta is the 🐐he was willing to give up everything for Katniss, he was so good and kind hearted when he really had no reason to be. Peeta was crying after the reaping because he knew 100% that he was going to die, he knew he would die so Katniss could have a chance to live. He stopped training with her as part of his strategy, he humiliated himself by confessing his long time crush on her in front of the country, he teamed up with the careers which must have been terrifying, squared off with Cato to save Katniss, was left slowly dying by a stream with nothing so Haymitch could give Katniss any sponsor gifts they may have got, he pulled the tourniquet off to bleed to death so Katniss would live. He also never once pressured Katniss or required her to return his feelings unlike Gale…he was hurt and embarrassed after he found out it was all a lie, but he sucked it up and dealt with it alone.
About Peeta- His skill is charm. He can’t fight or hunt, but he can charm people. Katniss is unlikable. We the reader like her because we are in her mind, but from the outside she is an unsociable, taciturn psycho. Peeta is her balance. He charms Haymitch into helping Katniss, the capitol into rooting for her (the romantic relationship), and the other tributes into not immediately killing her. Katniss barely notices because she’s in her own world, but while she keeps them alive in the arena, Peeta keeps them alive outside it. I do wish the movies had portrayed that dynamic better.
Kinda curious to know if you agree that the movies being in the 3rd person makes everything better and also worse at the same time. Also, stop fighting your body telling you that you are, in fact, team Peeta!!!!!! Can't wait for Catching Fire!
I think whether 1st person or 3rd person is better/worse is subjective. But, if they made it 3rd person and just like cut all the scenes Katniss wasn't there in, the movie is WAYYYY worse. Committing to that and showing other perspectives outside the arena was the best possible decision to make there
I don’t get the hate for Mockingjay Part 1 &2. I love that they split them. Wish they’ve split CF too so we got all the KP moments that explains so much.
I need you to read catching fire and mockingjay so so so bad like i just want to clear up your schedule and hand you the books and the movies, you're just gonna flip over to peeta I swear
Just wait on your thoughts about gale. Also, Peeta trained separately because he already resigned himself to die because katniss had the better odds and he cared about her. And the movie had haymitch say “I can sell a love story” to imply that from the book- they could get more sponsors which would increases katniss’s survival chances. He was willing to die for katniss. Because if she died, so would her family. I recommend a second reading at some point to really analyze it. First read through, at least for me, I’m just there for the ride. Second read through things will pop out more. What grinds my gears is that the mayors daughter was the one who gave katniss the mocking jay pin in the book. My theory is that she was going to volunteer initially to be the “mocking jay”. But in the book, katniss responded to volunteer very quickly that the other girl couldn’t. This will make more sense when you finish the series. I get why they left it out. It’s not really important, but it adds another layer to the story.
You have spawned the entire Team Peeta in here 😂 including myself. I feel like you are straight up ignoring facts just to hate Peeta. You really haven't experienced yet the bully side of our Team at its fullest and I can't wait for it.
This made me so happy! But Peeta is an angel and I think the lack of chemistry is a good thing. Excited for you to read the second book, it's the best one in my opinion.
Cato said that at the end because after clove died he made the realization that they too were victims of the games and the capital. District 1 trains these kids to win. He came in completely believing that the odds were in his favor and that there was no chance of him losing and it was a romanticized thing for him. His rose-colored glasses were broken and he realized he wasn't better than any of the other kids there.
The main deviation I’ve always thought about is how in the books Katniss is so aware she’s on camera and tries to be basically stoic and not look scarred. Also how she works with Haymich though their weird system and knows what he wants to see in order to get gifts. She was smarter but it would have too hard to show those internal things on film.
Peeta doesn't ask to be trained separately because he thinks Katniss is a threat, that's just what Katniss believes. Peeta asks to be trained on his own because he has feelings for her, doesn't think he has a chance of winning and doesn't think he deserves to win, feels unlovable/unworthy etc so he's like I'm gonna give her better odds . And he and Haymitch plot to use his feelings for her to give Katniss the advantage.
As much as I love Peeta, the people in the comment section needs to chill. I like it when people root for Gale in the first movie because technically he didn't do anything bad to prompt that much hate in the first movie. He is legit a "love interest" for her and we are getting her perspective. A person who's watching or reading the HG for the first time is definitely not going to catch up with everything and it's okay. If someone new is going on the journey of the hunger games, let them make their own opinion characters without constantly warning them about what's going to happen in the future. It takes away from the experience of the books and movies. It's like spoiling the whole character arc to them even before it started. Edit-grammar
Agreed. It's so rare to see on organic reaction to this series. Please let people experience it for the first time. I wish I could go back and read it for the first time.
9:37 The “zero chemistry between these two” really surprised me, seeing as I started rooting for them since the first time I’ve watched this movie with zero previous book knowledge! 😮 I guess everything is subjective in this world 😂 But I enjoyed your reaction, also cool that you took the time to read the book first before every movie reaction!
They forgot Madge, which is the saddest cut I think- and her being the Mayors daughter and the person who gave Katniss the Mockingjay pin makes the rebellion extra interesting. But it’s never explored, and completely ignored in the movie.
4:27 yea i do. dude he trained alone to make a plan for katniss to be more likeable, to make himself more vulnerable as ‘lover boy’, to plan on joining the career pack so he could try to save her. it was all for her. he trained alone and didn’t tell her because he knew how she would react. what did gale do? he acted like a pick me and decided to blame katniss for what she did to survive in the arena. i love your reaction + channel but not this
2:02 - IKR?! Don’t get me started on her. The extremely traumatized teens did more for her children than she did. Katniss’ reaction as the parentified child is heartbreaking. Prim’s not just her sister, she’s her child.
Katniss never had feelings for gale. He was more like a brother but she was confused and wanted to please gale cause she loves him (as a friend/hunting partner/brother etc)
I was honestly team gale the first book too until he turned into a lil woe is me asshole. He holds Peeta and Katniss’ relationship as a betrayal the entire time when they were literally in survival mode. It pisses me off that nobody listens to Katniss even after she vocalizes that she can’t even think about romantics, that she just needs to do what it takes to keep her family safe. She is so disconnected from her feelings (which is portrayed so well in the books), has intense flashbacks, nightmares and strong reactions to things as a result of the games and Gale never tries to understand. Meanwhile Peeta wakes up in the middle of the night to comfort her, is constantly working behind the scenes, many times at his own expense, to better her chances. It was so dangerous of him to team up with the careers. But he had to stay close to them to draw them away from Katniss, knowing they’d target her after her 12 score in training. I just wish they showed more of Peeta’s strengths besides his charm. He had to have skill to stay alive before Katniss found him. The careers brought him in because they saw his strength in training. And he was way smarter than he let on. Anyways this series is so fun, id do anything to experience the books for the first time again!! Pls make the next one longer, I’d love to hear alllll your thoughts!
4:37 …. Pretty sure Peeta was discussing this next scene and his arena strategy so he could still help Katniss. They couldn’t tell her though. She wouldn’t accept it.
Ngl it took me a long time to stop being team Gale. Remember that many major plot points hinge on keeping Katniss in the dark. Because Haymich recognizes that her strength is thinking on her feet. Katniss has good instincts. And part of why is because she was influenced by Gale. Her way of thinking was majorly influenced by Gale. She's not willing to give the Capitol anything. And she does see Peeta as weak for sacrificing himself for her sake. She cannot understand someone who barely knows her to go to the lengths Katniss did for Primrose. Katniss found worth in breaking rules. When we learn more about Peeta we learn that its not as easy for him to be a rule breaker and Katniss has a false idea of how well the merchant class of people are in her own district. She falls for the Capitols propaganda despite everything. Honestly it never felt right how Katniss was never given the full narrative from the beginning. It felt really icky taking away her agency to decide things for herself even if her decisions may be considered too spicy to let her survive. It's a catch 22. #TeamKatniss
THANK YOU for reading the book and then watching the movie. All these people who watch the movie and are asking questions about what different things mean, I'm like um just read the book...read the book...read the book...oh you want to know what that means? it's very clear IN THE BOOK!!! Also, I always rooted for Gale too. I think it's because you get so attached to their relationship in the book vs you only see him, what, 3 times in the movie before she gets sent off?
I can honestly appreciate a SLIGHTLY more sympathetic approach to Gale, but the Peeta slander has to stop. Also, children crying is not weakness. Men crying is not weakness. They are in a situation that would make anyone vulnerable and facing violent death for entertainment as literal children.
I thoroughly enjoyed watching you experience this for the first time. Can't wait for you to continue with the series. Making me want to reread these books, it's been over a decade.
i was huge team gale when i read hunger games and parts of catching fire !! but as the story progresses and the characters are thrust into even crazier circumstances it’s very interesting to see how ALL of the characters change.
Here's my take. For Katniss it was never Gale. It was never Peeta. It was always Prim. Everything she does is for Prim. She wants the best for the boys, but everything is for Prim. I think the love triangle is for marketing and the real story was never about Gale vs. Peeta.
Love seeing a new reader’s perspective on the movies! I read the books so long ago and I’ve seen the movies so many times that I feel like I glaze over a lot of the things that were changed. Loved that you mentioned taking the bodies out! I was also surprised when they didn’t show the body removal because I remember that part so vividly from the books. I remember her talking about how they had to start doing that so starving tributes wouldn’t resort to cannibalism and It was so casually horrifying that it really stayed in my mind. I guess there was no real way to express that in the movie without explicitly saying it? But at least in the case of the mutts, I think a quick scene of the capital receiving their bodies could’ve been done to at least imply the mutts were the tributes. They don’t even try explain it at all. Same with the three-finger-salute and I really feel the movie missed here. It’s such an important symbol and the book talks so much about the meaning in district twelve and then growth into a symbol of the rebellion. Anyone who didn’t read the books would never have the same understanding of what that symbol means. Generally I really like the movies though and I’m glad you’re enjoying the Hunger Games so much!
Bruh, Cato just killed most people in the arena. He is not yet 18 years old I'm guessing. He is a broken young man. And, in his final moments, he finally realised that the Games are not supposed to be "won." No-one ever wins the Games. He realises that his entire life dream of being in the Games and running glory for his family is just a carrot that was dangled in their faces but it all ends in murder, crisis, brokenness, great 6, PTSD, and living in mental hell for the rest of your life even if you win. Cut him some slack at the end there.
I'm so excited for your reactions to the second installment in the series (both the book and the movie are my faves in this universe)! Personally I'm not Team Gale, I'm Team Katniss is too autistic to understand anyone's romantic feelings lol
Did it not bother you that the gifts at the cornucopia were all the same size in the movie, but in the book they made a point to say that each gift was a different size depending on what they needed in that moment? It still bothers me to this day.
I saw the movies first, then read the books and I'm also a person who is real big on movies following books. (Harry Potter and Game of Thrones made me so mad I didn't even finish watching them) So I love ur inputs about the books. Personally, I think the books are better. And idk why everyone hates Gale. Gale isn't bad. Peta gave more for katniss, and gave without regard to himself from day one. Gale had the advantage of having an actual relationship (friends) with her before and knew her better. And the two in the books represented the internal struggle for katniss. Rebellion or conformity. Being fueled by anger or embracing kindness/love. Neither of them are bad people. Just different. I love Gale. I actually like Gale more than I like peta. Katniss kept having to save peta and he was slow, loud, and just altogether more of a liability for katniss through the whole series. Gale was self sufficient and loyal and would have been (and later proved to be) a much better help practically speaking.
8:17 No! It wasn’t her dad. If it was her dad the riot wouldn’t have happened because her dad would know that should he act disorderly he would be risking the lives of his other children and his wife. Remember how the peacekeepers execute a little boy named Martin because he kept a pair of night shade goggles? If they murder people for such minor offenses like that in district 11, no such riot would have happened out of fear of mass murder of the population, only to use said mass murder as an example to those who survive it. My personal head canon is that this scene never happened.
I recommend waiting at least a week to two weeks between reading the book and watching the movie. It helps when watching because if you’ve forgotten some details in that time you’re not looking for it in the movie. They can only keep so much when adapting. Also, this goes for any book adaptation. Generally I enjoy the movies a lot more that way
8:00 they dont pull the bodies out JUST to make mutts. I distinctly remember that in the book Katniss explains that one year, in an arena with very little food options, the tributes resorted to cannibalism and that it tanked viewership because the Capitolites watching were too disturbed by it. It's kinda funny how killing a 12 year old is good drama but they draw the line at cannibalism, although i suppose it would bring back bad memories of the Dark Ages where even people in the Capitol would resort to that.
I think you misunderstood Peeta's character. From the moment he gets picked he is resigned to his death. He knows he can't win the games. He pretty much says so on that roof top. Everything he does from the time he decides to train separately is to try to save/help Katniss. I know most people don't like Peeta in the first movie but usually those who read the book at least by the end understand this. And of course no one has to like him just because of this but you keep saying him 'not doing anything' or 'only doing 2 things' for Katniss is why you dislike him. Or at least why you prefer Gale . . . Peeta literally saves her life by giving her the most expensive bread their district produces and takes a beating from his Mom when they were 12 for her. His plan to join the careers is literally only to get them off her trail like . . . I don't get it. He fights Cato just so she can get away sustaining a grave injury and lays down to literally die after he accomplishes this . . . Like you don't need to like him but it is made pretty clear what his intentions are. He has never felt threatened by her.
I was 12 when I read the books and the first movie came out. Sure, the deaths were sad then but reading/watching it now as an adult??? So much more hurtful! They were kids!!!
I would like to state that Katniss is an unreliable narrator. What she thinks peeta's doing isn't what Peeta is doing all the time. She is pretty much thinking the worst of him because she fully expects him to want to kill her because that's the reality that the games shows to people. Also Petta is a bit of a damsel in distress. Also I hate Gail he gives frat boy douche vibes. He literally only realized he liked katniss romantically when a peacekeeper flirted with her. He gets angry at her for doing what she has to to survive in the games because she had to flirt with another guy. He's had s*** tons of girlfriends but he expects her to be only his that's f***** up. Also in the first book Gale as a romantic figure isn't really brought up it's mentioned that they have a more like relative vibe from katniss's perspective plus him being 2 years older than her and showing up in her life right after her dad died just gives me off vibes. Like a 2-year age difference isn't that big of a deal after you're 20 years old but these kids are teenagers. It's weird for a 10th grader to like an 8th grader and I'm pretty sure they were younger than that when they first met so yeah no. Gail overestimates his ability to provide where Peeta knows he's weak as s***.
You’ll learn in the prequel the true reason they remove the bodies from the arena, and it didn’t start because of the mutations. Thats just a bonus. And they didn’t turn Cato ‘into a bitch’. They simply showed that as brutal as he was he is simply still a scared kid.
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As a child of the 90's, the more you hate Gale, the more I'm going to double down on this. He's my best friend, my pal. My sweet cheese. My rotten solider. My good time boi. th-cam.com/video/7ohtCmSoLl4/w-d-xo.html
i'll give that movie Peeta vs movie Gale is no contest but in the book... our hearts go to Peeta. I was not a fan of his casting lol
Team Gale forever!
This is going to age poorly 👀
Trauma effects people differently and Gale had a very different reaction to the one Katniss and Peeta had. I don’t think his reaction was any less valid but a lot of people do.
Lol, I had a feeling you would purposely double down 😅 but in all seriousness, people forget you have only read the first book from Katniss's POV of course is team Gale right now he has had her back from what we know so far.
I cannot explain the rage I felt everytime you rooted for Gale
lol same
Ehhh. I rooted for Gale too when I first saw the movie and read the book. It was when I was reading Catching Fire I changed teams. Let’s be patient with our new friend here.
You have the knowledge of hindsight. He doesn't and doesn't see what Gale becomes (not that Gale is exactly awful or a bad person, he just becomes someone who isn't right for Katniss). Go easy on him, he was new.
@elistari1050 Yes, I mean, the rage was not directed towards him. Even if he still ends up liking Gale, it would be his opinion. I just personally feel enraged every time I hear that character's name because I hate him 👍🏻
REAL
Keep in mind, Gale wants to make sure Katniss has a winning mentality. Peeta is a 16 year old who KNOWS he’s going to die because there’s no way he’d choose to survive over Katniss. Of course he’s crying. Although, the love story angle was Peeta’s strategy to make Katniss more likeable to the vapid Capitol audience. Just because he wasn’t all testosterone-fueled killer, that doesn’t mean he wasn’t working to protect the protagonist.
We need a Peeta's pov book. We didn't need a pov of Grey or everyone else. I was so disappointed when I heard Collins is giving us another book after so many years and I wasn't for him 😂
@@DesAnanieva i bring to your attention "Peeta's Games" aka, a fanwritten trilogy that follows the original books, but from Peeta's perspective, they are absolutely AMAZING!! i 100% recommend, the author recently started writing Haymitch's games as well
@jezzarte3587 oooh really? Thank you very much I'll check it out. Thank you 🫠❤️
@@jezzarte3587 WHAT?! Ohh i need that
I need a book following the rebels
you have fallen for the katniss’ unreliable narrator pov lmfaooo
Exactly. We can’t rely on Katniss for everything.
YES
@@Blodreina45you can't rely on katnis for anything 😂😢 she is the most unreliable lol
The thing is that when reading in Katnis pov she can’t fathom the thought of Peeta having actual feelings for her so she sees most of his acts as suspicious almost as how she can’t really recognize that she is actually pretty liked in her district
Exactly! “They only have fond feelings towards me because of my dad and sister” of course Katniss, it couldn’t be because the whole district saw how you stepped up after your dad died and took care of your family and brought fresh meat and herbs and stuff back to the district. Couldn’t be anything to do with you! She can’t understand that people (including Peeta) like her!
Rue comes on screen: "oh no"
The only logical reaction
Cato being given a moment of humanity and sympathy at the end is so important and I think it's something in the film adds that really enriches the story.
Step back from the thrill ride of a good drama, and let yourself remember that every single child there, including all of the "careers", were victims. The girl that Thresh killed who seemed like a psychopath--she was 14 or 15. Cato was what, 17?
Collins does a great job of making some of them vicious and hateable, which is great for a story, but Cato's history is just as devastating as Katniss's. He was indoctrinated to be a child soldier his entire life, given a lie that this would glorify and give meaning to his life, and then when he gets there and he commits the atrocities he's been primed to commit... He's faced with the brutal realization that he never had a chance. Someone else was more skilled. And now he's going to die meaninglessly, a tribute like all the rest, his flesh fed to mutations while the capital cheers.
It's a dark book.
Hard agree. Reminding us that even Cato is just a child burdened by his circumstances was a great choice.
I agree that Cato needed that moment but wish it had been done like in the book, he mouths "Help me" doesn't he when he's being eaten? I feel like that moment is more real about how the careers feel about the Capitol. Most are loyal to the very end, so in the book it's that one moment but it felt rushed in the movie. The capitol in the book is SAVAGE and ruthless - i didnt feel that with the movie.
Peeta Mellark is the sweetest and kindest character ever written, the idea of someone liking Gale is unfathomable
Preach!
Kato realizing that he was a walking corpse who only serves as entertainment for the Capital at the end is pretty perfect. Not sure why giving voice to that realization makes him a b**ch. Also the ridiculousness of hating either Gale or Peta has always been insane to me. They're just kids in a totalitarian state that like a girl and struggle to survive. One wants to fight. The other has to fight. And they both show how they feel about Katniss throughout that madness the best they can. Confusion, chaos, and occasional selfishness is all understandable. The only thing more ridiculous than hating either of them is folks that criticize Katniss for getting close with both and struggling to decide. She's a kid that is so tormented that she can't even come close to figuring out how she feels. That's even more realistic.🤷😂
100%.
I don’t hate Gale or Peeta, though I do understand the preferences. Like you, I appreciate that ALL the tributes were victims, even Cato, Clove, Marvel and Glimmer.
Real. Team Katniss. This series is a romance series anyway.
ig in the beginning favoring either peta or gale is silly in retrospect, however i will say that by the end of the trilogy, i _hated_ gale
Thank you. Hating Gale is ridiculous. He is a product of his environment who also has had to provide for his mum and three siblings since he was 14, and at the end of the day he is just a sad and angry kid (rightfully so) who lives in a shitty world.
I will NOT stand for the peeta slander😭🤚
But Peeta didn’t want to be trained separately because he viewed her as a threat, he wanted to work separately so he could protect her because he knew he had no shot at winning but she did. And he didn’t want to be a killer.
(Respectfully) this feels like unsubstantiated theory. There are a dozen ways to help her out that "protect" her and none of them involve hiding his training methods. He could've trained with her and still joined the Careers
Honestly I also don't think Peeta was being selfish by training on his own, I think he was just not interest in having to prove himself. Katniss was always saying he was also good with things, and he just wanted do die in peace without having to fight for it. This training alone thing begins after her scores are so high, and I feel like he just doesn't want any pitty. But I agree, the protecting her thing has nothing to do with it.
@@lynmoore_ I always read it as him wanting to be able to talk to Haymitch about his strategy (telling Caesar about his feelings for Katniss) without her being around.
@@lynmoore_I think you’re forgetting that the training that he wanted separate was about the interview where he confessed to having a massive crush on Katniss. He wanted help with it but he couldn’t let Katniss know his plan otherwise she would have stopped him. All their other training was together.
@@lynmoore_ I get what you're saying. But he KNEW he had no chance of winning. So his mission became to make sure Katniss did, so he had to keep the whole romance thing a secret so she could react naturally. I dont think there's ever any indication that he'd be ready to kill her, however, Katniss was always going to kill him
3:10 no you're absolutely correct- Woody IS the perfect Haymitch
The revolution in Rue’s district puts me to tears INSTANTLY. It’s something you don’t get from the book because it’s from her POV, but it is SO effective for the movie.
We ARE in Katniss's head for the Reaping - or at least, for part of it. Showing Prim tuck in her duck tail is 100% Katniss-O-Vision. We're seeing all the things that Katniss is taking in while she's in shock the same way she is - in little pieces. Prim's braids, her mom's apathy, the untucked shirt, etc. It's not telling us what Katniss is thinking, but it's making us FEEL what Katniss is feeling.
Yeah, there's a lot of misunderstanding about Peeta here. And while Peeta is one of my favourites in the series, I say this because contextually it should be pretty obvious. Everything he did was to save Katniss and not himself. If you look at his actions from start to finish they are always to either help Katniss, whether it's training separately from Katniss to make a plan with Haymitch followed by revealing his secret (what would be the reason to do that other than to make her more likeable), talking her skills up, joining the careers when he already has a target on his back, fighting off Cato to protect Katniss and almost getting mortally wounded, not even attempting to kill Katniss at the end even though they were in close range and he could have easily grabbed her and killed her (straight away he tosses his weapon aside and, like you said, unravels his tourniquet to speed up the process). He does a lot for her in the book but as we see scenes from Katniss' perspective, and she is also confused about his motives, you have to look at his journey overall.
As far as your love for Gale, Gale is a nice guy but he's literally in 1 (briefly 2) chapters. He's a stand-up guy looking out for his family and Katniss' but we don't see any more than that. I do tend to find a lot of male reactors really love Gale in the beginning tho.
On a completely different topic, the reason they pull the bodies out is not because of the mutts (although they can use them if they want to) they always pull them out due to [a] previous tribute resorting to cannibalism. 😧
I caaaant wait for the Gale hate 😂
And the next reaction ❤
the movies don’t capture the cruelty and the trauma like the books. they made it more about the love triangle instead of the issues of war. can’t wait for u to read the rest!
No literally. Ignoring a lot of the mental and physical disabilities the characters went through I think is the biggest flaws of the movies. But again as he said, it would’ve been an R rating if they went for a scene by scene adaptation
Umm no it didn’t. Gale has like 5 minutes of screentime max per movie
Especially in Mockingjay.
not the "team gale"
edit: I think katniss as 1 person narrator has you tricked- cause what is this peeta slander 😭
Nah, it’s just the 1st book has you thinking Peeta is useless
You’re gonna be singing a different tune about Peeta by the end of Catching Fire. And if not, DEFINITELY by the end of the series.
dude you are SO WRONG about Gale it’s not even funny
it's crazy to hear
no he's not all u movie fangirls are wrong about peata
@@Culllli cannot tell you why peeta is the obviusly right choice without spoil this men the entire trilogy xd
I love our bread boy but let’s stop our urge to recruit every reactor to our team by hinting about Gale and let them slowly figure it out. 😂 He’s fresh here from the first book.
I read the books & watched the movies there are some inconsistencies but in the movies Gale acts like a lovesick whiny baby. I think he took for granted that they’d end up together & I’m not sure she really knew how she felt about him at that time in her life. The subsequent movies flesh that out more as she grows.
[turns off subtitles in the beginning] "What am I, Helen Keller?"
Dude, she was deaf AND BLIND.
I always thought he wanted to train separate so the trainers could spend more time with katniss. Peeta knew he couldn’t win and he didn’t want Katniss wasting her time trying to protect him.
I mean I truly believe it was so he could make his plans to get her to win with haymitch. Haymitch had to work HARD to get Peeta in with the careers.
the dylan is in trouble reference at the beginning 😭😭
Oh my god you’re right hahahah that’s so quick I missed it the first time 😂😂
Saw it and literally ran to the comment section
Which one is? I cannot find it. And I love Dylan is introuble
I am eager for you to read Catching Fire 😂 I wonder if you’ll swap teams!
Or better yet, how fast 🤣
honestly movie-version Gale did almost make me switch teams until you know what of course lol @@denissevalenzuela3825
He in fact still has not switched teams
@@jazzyjay3881 let’s see what happens with the next book :3
Love this video! Did notice a few things though:
- Rue did in fact put those leaves on her, and this happened in the book as well
- The tributes are not just picked up to be turned into mutated wolves - I don’t remember which book Katniss says this in but they had an issue with someone doing cannibalism in a previous game (the capitol killed that kid for it) so presumably at least part of the reason dead tributes get picked up is so there is no option of cannibalism.
2:49 - It’s interesting how most men reactors gravitate towards team Gale.
Yes, I notice this happen a lot too, really strange. I wonder whether it's because they see him as the typical full masculine, protective guy Katniss "should" want, even though most female readers see Peeta's subtle selflessness and deep care for Katniss even from early on. I also (unfortunately) wonder whether they feel Gale is somewhat more "worthy" of a choice because he knew and protected Katniss for longer, as if that somehow entitles him to her love in return? 😬 Hope not but that's the vibe I often get, tbh
I think most people end up team Peeta by the end (cause how can you not???) but I can't recall ever being team Gale myself?
@@viam14 I guess most of the book readers specially after Catching fire knew Peeta is the one. ‼️Spoiler ahead‼️ The movies also took so many lines from him then added some scenes for Gale. Tackling Commander Thread would never not make me cringe. Like that would have immediately put bullet through his head, not just get whipped. Some reactors applaud him for that not realizing how stupid it was. Gale would only yap about the Capitol in the woods with Katniss bc they were careful and knew just how easily they could get killed for letting something stupid slip.
I can’t recall ever being team Gale either. 😅 and this reactor saying that the perspective of Gale watching the games and seeing Katniss kiss Peeta puts things to mind. Like what sir? They’re just friends. Should I feel guilt-tripped by Gale as well? Katniss have enough of that going already.
Omg so true. And it is funny because, we always assume (wrongly) that women are who used to love the bad guys and we are always rootting for them, but every female person I know who has read the books, prefers the care and vulnerabilty of Peeta for obvious reasons.
@@marinamacia9951 🤣 “I can fix him.” Says only the girls that only saw the movies (and Liam) and few that read the books. He have merits but damn, boy [redacted] it all up. He gazed too long into the abyss.
Peeta, through Katniss’ eyes, really took root and planted himself like the dandelion he is on most of readers’ hearts.
Most men looks at the boys and sees Gale as the stronger one, most young women/women sees Peeta as the stronger one. It’s just that we look at them through different lenses and applauds different strengths. Their respective battlefields in Mockingjay showed us who fought their demons well.
@@lovequinn7521 That last paragraph of your comment, completely spot on. You worded that so well! It's totally about what strength we value, and about what tests Gale and Peeta are given in the end!
I remember seeing a really good explanation on why there is more Gale screen content than Gale book content “the irony of the Hunger Games is that the media in the book and the media in the real world both chose to focus on the love story instead of the rebellion.” (Quoted from a tumblr post).
Unfortunately the book(s) and movie(s) do differ from each other in some important aspects but the movies are still really good thanks to Susanne Collins being involved in the production. Once you finish the series I also think you’ll be on the full Peeta bandwagon but alas we still have to get there lol
10:34 they gave him those lines to show that he's a victim, groomed for consumption since puberty. (Careers are brainwsshed into thinking that volunteering is worth the gamble, the possibility of money &honor is worth risking death) Its not in the book because Katniss, being his age and a lower district, doesnt percieve him as the powerless child he really is.
To quote Hamilton: Just you wait...
not getting that Peeta wanted to be trained alone for HER benefit, after reading the book AND watching the movie, is wild 😂 These reactions are gold.
Gale was actually a really decent guy, he doesn’t deserve the hate he gets…but Peeta is the 🐐he was willing to give up everything for Katniss, he was so good and kind hearted when he really had no reason to be. Peeta was crying after the reaping because he knew 100% that he was going to die, he knew he would die so Katniss could have a chance to live. He stopped training with her as part of his strategy, he humiliated himself by confessing his long time crush on her in front of the country, he teamed up with the careers which must have been terrifying, squared off with Cato to save Katniss, was left slowly dying by a stream with nothing so Haymitch could give Katniss any sponsor gifts they may have got, he pulled the tourniquet off to bleed to death so Katniss would live. He also never once pressured Katniss or required her to return his feelings unlike Gale…he was hurt and embarrassed after he found out it was all a lie, but he sucked it up and dealt with it alone.
About Peeta- His skill is charm. He can’t fight or hunt, but he can charm people. Katniss is unlikable. We the reader like her because we are in her mind, but from the outside she is an unsociable, taciturn psycho.
Peeta is her balance. He charms Haymitch into helping Katniss, the capitol into rooting for her (the romantic relationship), and the other tributes into not immediately killing her. Katniss barely notices because she’s in her own world, but while she keeps them alive in the arena, Peeta keeps them alive outside it. I do wish the movies had portrayed that dynamic better.
Feel free to make the next videos longer, absolutely loving this ❤
The books are definitely better but I did like the different POV’s in the movies.
if you're still team gale by the end of the trilogy, someone is getting killed
And that person is prim
Kinda curious to know if you agree that the movies being in the 3rd person makes everything better and also worse at the same time.
Also, stop fighting your body telling you that you are, in fact, team Peeta!!!!!!
Can't wait for Catching Fire!
Agreed, yes. First person has its advantages. But we got to see POVs in the movie that add tension and expand the world
I think whether 1st person or 3rd person is better/worse is subjective. But, if they made it 3rd person and just like cut all the scenes Katniss wasn't there in, the movie is WAYYYY worse. Committing to that and showing other perspectives outside the arena was the best possible decision to make there
I don’t get the hate for Mockingjay Part 1 &2. I love that they split them. Wish they’ve split CF too so we got all the KP moments that explains so much.
I need you to read catching fire and mockingjay so so so bad like i just want to clear up your schedule and hand you the books and the movies, you're just gonna flip over to peeta I swear
Like not even Katniss+Peeta, just Peeta as a character is sooooo good
Just wait on your thoughts about gale. Also, Peeta trained separately because he already resigned himself to die because katniss had the better odds and he cared about her. And the movie had haymitch say “I can sell a love story” to imply that from the book- they could get more sponsors which would increases katniss’s survival chances. He was willing to die for katniss. Because if she died, so would her family. I recommend a second reading at some point to really analyze it. First read through, at least for me, I’m just there for the ride. Second read through things will pop out more.
What grinds my gears is that the mayors daughter was the one who gave katniss the mocking jay pin in the book. My theory is that she was going to volunteer initially to be the “mocking jay”. But in the book, katniss responded to volunteer very quickly that the other girl couldn’t. This will make more sense when you finish the series. I get why they left it out. It’s not really important, but it adds another layer to the story.
Madge was the absolute spark of the revolution. I hate so much that she was completely left out.
Watching you go through these for the first time brings me so much joy. Reigniting my middle school obsession for this universe
OMG you are so spot on why we're Team Peeta and you don't even know it. So excited for this! I hope no one spoiled it.
"Holding down the fort, protecting her family" 😂😂😂😂😂
It’s so funny considering what happens because of him in the last book 😭🤣 sweet innocent child
LOL 0:04 the Dylan reference (i’ve been gatekeeping him 🤫)
2:58 This amount of joy for Hay is justified.
"Where's Haymitch?!" 💀😅
"not how it happened but okay" the classic line of book lovers everywhere
You have spawned the entire Team Peeta in here 😂 including myself. I feel like you are straight up ignoring facts just to hate Peeta. You really haven't experienced yet the bully side of our Team at its fullest and I can't wait for it.
This made me so happy! But Peeta is an angel and I think the lack of chemistry is a good thing. Excited for you to read the second book, it's the best one in my opinion.
Cato said that at the end because after clove died he made the realization that they too were victims of the games and the capital. District 1 trains these kids to win. He came in completely believing that the odds were in his favor and that there was no chance of him losing and it was a romanticized thing for him. His rose-colored glasses were broken and he realized he wasn't better than any of the other kids there.
I CANNOT WAIT to see your reactions going forward. I’ve got so much to say and I don’t want to spoil anything! Good luck my man 🫡
It would be a horror movie if they follow all the things in the book.
The main deviation I’ve always thought about is how in the books Katniss is so aware she’s on camera and tries to be basically stoic and not look scarred. Also how she works with Haymich though their weird system and knows what he wants to see in order to get gifts. She was smarter but it would have too hard to show those internal things on film.
Omg the end “holding down the fort, protecting the family” 😬🤭
Dude- Gale deserves everything that is coming to him. You have no idea!!!! But I’m loving your POV as someone new to the series!!!
"There's Gale holding down the fort, taking care of her family" I want to yell at the screen when you said that
Tbf, I liked Gale early on in the series too, but now every time I go back and watch, everything is so clear
Peeta doesn't ask to be trained separately because he thinks Katniss is a threat, that's just what Katniss believes. Peeta asks to be trained on his own because he has feelings for her, doesn't think he has a chance of winning and doesn't think he deserves to win, feels unlovable/unworthy etc so he's like I'm gonna give her better odds . And he and Haymitch plot to use his feelings for her to give Katniss the advantage.
As much as I love Peeta, the people in the comment section needs to chill. I like it when people root for Gale in the first movie because technically he didn't do anything bad to prompt that much hate in the first movie. He is legit a "love interest" for her and we are getting her perspective. A person who's watching or reading the HG for the first time is definitely not going to catch up with everything and it's okay.
If someone new is going on the journey of the hunger games, let them make their own opinion characters without constantly warning them about what's going to happen in the future. It takes away from the experience of the books and movies. It's like spoiling the whole character arc to them even before it started.
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Agreed. It's so rare to see on organic reaction to this series. Please let people experience it for the first time. I wish I could go back and read it for the first time.
9:37 The “zero chemistry between these two” really surprised me, seeing as I started rooting for them since the first time I’ve watched this movie with zero previous book knowledge! 😮 I guess everything is subjective in this world 😂 But I enjoyed your reaction, also cool that you took the time to read the book first before every movie reaction!
They forgot Madge, which is the saddest cut I think- and her being the Mayors daughter and the person who gave Katniss the Mockingjay pin makes the rebellion extra interesting. But it’s never explored, and completely ignored in the movie.
Where’s my drunk bastard friend? Best line ever 😂
4:27 yea i do. dude he trained alone to make a plan for katniss to be more likeable, to make himself more vulnerable as ‘lover boy’, to plan on joining the career pack so he could try to save her. it was all for her. he trained alone and didn’t tell her because he knew how she would react. what did gale do? he acted like a pick me and decided to blame katniss for what she did to survive in the arena. i love your reaction + channel but not this
Him saying it should’ve been R when I read and watched the books and movies at 9 😭 I loved this series so much
You were half correct! They did in fact show the mutts they just fully bypassed the Frankenstein part of it 😅
while as a thg superfan and a peeta stan i didnt agree with you on everything (lol), this was thoroughly entertaining and i cant wait to see the rest!
“Who this entire time, has been laying in mud” 😂😂
Well, actually that's why he wants to be trained independently because he is planning to tell the world he loves Katniss.
2:02 - IKR?! Don’t get me started on her. The extremely traumatized teens did more for her children than she did. Katniss’ reaction as the parentified child is heartbreaking. Prim’s not just her sister, she’s her child.
As a huge fan of the saga and Peeta stan, I can’t wait for you to go to over book 2 & 3… this will be fun 😌
Katniss never had feelings for gale. He was more like a brother but she was confused and wanted to please gale cause she loves him (as a friend/hunting partner/brother etc)
I mean, the private training was so he could get Haymitch to take care of Katniss in the arena with sponsors. Peeta clears Gale
I was honestly team gale the first book too until he turned into a lil woe is me asshole. He holds Peeta and Katniss’ relationship as a betrayal the entire time when they were literally in survival mode.
It pisses me off that nobody listens to Katniss even after she vocalizes that she can’t even think about romantics, that she just needs to do what it takes to keep her family safe. She is so disconnected from her feelings (which is portrayed so well in the books), has intense flashbacks, nightmares and strong reactions to things as a result of the games and Gale never tries to understand.
Meanwhile Peeta wakes up in the middle of the night to comfort her, is constantly working behind the scenes, many times at his own expense, to better her chances. It was so dangerous of him to team up with the careers. But he had to stay close to them to draw them away from Katniss, knowing they’d target her after her 12 score in training.
I just wish they showed more of Peeta’s strengths besides his charm. He had to have skill to stay alive before Katniss found him. The careers brought him in because they saw his strength in training. And he was way smarter than he let on.
Anyways this series is so fun, id do anything to experience the books for the first time again!! Pls make the next one longer, I’d love to hear alllll your thoughts!
4:37 …. Pretty sure Peeta was discussing this next scene and his arena strategy so he could still help Katniss. They couldn’t tell her though. She wouldn’t accept it.
Ngl it took me a long time to stop being team Gale. Remember that many major plot points hinge on keeping Katniss in the dark. Because Haymich recognizes that her strength is thinking on her feet. Katniss has good instincts. And part of why is because she was influenced by Gale. Her way of thinking was majorly influenced by Gale. She's not willing to give the Capitol anything. And she does see Peeta as weak for sacrificing himself for her sake. She cannot understand someone who barely knows her to go to the lengths Katniss did for Primrose. Katniss found worth in breaking rules. When we learn more about Peeta we learn that its not as easy for him to be a rule breaker and Katniss has a false idea of how well the merchant class of people are in her own district. She falls for the Capitols propaganda despite everything.
Honestly it never felt right how Katniss was never given the full narrative from the beginning. It felt really icky taking away her agency to decide things for herself even if her decisions may be considered too spicy to let her survive. It's a catch 22. #TeamKatniss
THANK YOU for reading the book and then watching the movie. All these people who watch the movie and are asking questions about what different things mean, I'm like um just read the book...read the book...read the book...oh you want to know what that means? it's very clear IN THE BOOK!!!
Also, I always rooted for Gale too. I think it's because you get so attached to their relationship in the book vs you only see him, what, 3 times in the movie before she gets sent off?
I can honestly appreciate a SLIGHTLY more sympathetic approach to Gale, but the Peeta slander has to stop. Also, children crying is not weakness. Men crying is not weakness. They are in a situation that would make anyone vulnerable and facing violent death for entertainment as literal children.
I thoroughly enjoyed watching you experience this for the first time. Can't wait for you to continue with the series. Making me want to reread these books, it's been over a decade.
i was huge team gale when i read hunger games and parts of catching fire !! but as the story progresses and the characters are thrust into even crazier circumstances it’s very interesting to see how ALL of the characters change.
this is the first time ive watched a book react into a movie react but it was dope so i hope you continue with the rest of the hunger games stuff
Here's my take. For Katniss it was never Gale. It was never Peeta. It was always Prim. Everything she does is for Prim. She wants the best for the boys, but everything is for Prim. I think the love triangle is for marketing and the real story was never about Gale vs. Peeta.
Bread boy is crying because he knows he is not going to see his family again.
He is going to die for Katniss so she can come back to Prim
Love seeing a new reader’s perspective on the movies! I read the books so long ago and I’ve seen the movies so many times that I feel like I glaze over a lot of the things that were changed.
Loved that you mentioned taking the bodies out! I was also surprised when they didn’t show the body removal because I remember that part so vividly from the books. I remember her talking about how they had to start doing that so starving tributes wouldn’t resort to cannibalism and It was so casually horrifying that it really stayed in my mind. I guess there was no real way to express that in the movie without explicitly saying it? But at least in the case of the mutts, I think a quick scene of the capital receiving their bodies could’ve been done to at least imply the mutts were the tributes. They don’t even try explain it at all.
Same with the three-finger-salute and I really feel the movie missed here. It’s such an important symbol and the book talks so much about the meaning in district twelve and then growth into a symbol of the rebellion. Anyone who didn’t read the books would never have the same understanding of what that symbol means.
Generally I really like the movies though and I’m glad you’re enjoying the Hunger Games so much!
Hey, don't spoil it. Let him love Gael that makes it better!
Hello Troublemaker! It's nice to join you on this wild ride!
I’m so looking forward how his opinion of certain characters will change while watching/reading the rest of the Hunger Games books.
Bruh, Cato just killed most people in the arena. He is not yet 18 years old I'm guessing. He is a broken young man. And, in his final moments, he finally realised that the Games are not supposed to be "won." No-one ever wins the Games. He realises that his entire life dream of being in the Games and running glory for his family is just a carrot that was dangled in their faces but it all ends in murder, crisis, brokenness, great 6, PTSD, and living in mental hell for the rest of your life even if you win.
Cut him some slack at the end there.
I'm so excited for your reactions to the second installment in the series (both the book and the movie are my faves in this universe)! Personally I'm not Team Gale, I'm Team Katniss is too autistic to understand anyone's romantic feelings lol
Did it not bother you that the gifts at the cornucopia were all the same size in the movie, but in the book they made a point to say that each gift was a different size depending on what they needed in that moment? It still bothers me to this day.
I saw the movies first, then read the books and I'm also a person who is real big on movies following books. (Harry Potter and Game of Thrones made me so mad I didn't even finish watching them) So I love ur inputs about the books. Personally, I think the books are better. And idk why everyone hates Gale. Gale isn't bad. Peta gave more for katniss, and gave without regard to himself from day one. Gale had the advantage of having an actual relationship (friends) with her before and knew her better. And the two in the books represented the internal struggle for katniss. Rebellion or conformity. Being fueled by anger or embracing kindness/love. Neither of them are bad people. Just different. I love Gale. I actually like Gale more than I like peta. Katniss kept having to save peta and he was slow, loud, and just altogether more of a liability for katniss through the whole series. Gale was self sufficient and loyal and would have been (and later proved to be) a much better help practically speaking.
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No! It wasn’t her dad. If it was her dad the riot wouldn’t have happened because her dad would know that should he act disorderly he would be risking the lives of his other children and his wife. Remember how the peacekeepers execute a little boy named Martin because he kept a pair of night shade goggles? If they murder people for such minor offenses like that in district 11, no such riot would have happened out of fear of mass murder of the population, only to use said mass murder as an example to those who survive it. My personal head canon is that this scene never happened.
Thanks for pointing out how different the movie is from the book and important details that were left out
he decided to be trained on his own so that he could have haymitch help him confess his love for katniss but you can be team gale it’s totally fine
I recommend waiting at least a week to two weeks between reading the book and watching the movie. It helps when watching because if you’ve forgotten some details in that time you’re not looking for it in the movie. They can only keep so much when adapting. Also, this goes for any book adaptation. Generally I enjoy the movies a lot more that way
8:00 they dont pull the bodies out JUST to make mutts. I distinctly remember that in the book Katniss explains that one year, in an arena with very little food options, the tributes resorted to cannibalism and that it tanked viewership because the Capitolites watching were too disturbed by it. It's kinda funny how killing a 12 year old is good drama but they draw the line at cannibalism, although i suppose it would bring back bad memories of the Dark Ages where even people in the Capitol would resort to that.
I think you misunderstood Peeta's character. From the moment he gets picked he is resigned to his death. He knows he can't win the games. He pretty much says so on that roof top. Everything he does from the time he decides to train separately is to try to save/help Katniss. I know most people don't like Peeta in the first movie but usually those who read the book at least by the end understand this. And of course no one has to like him just because of this but you keep saying him 'not doing anything' or 'only doing 2 things' for Katniss is why you dislike him. Or at least why you prefer Gale . . . Peeta literally saves her life by giving her the most expensive bread their district produces and takes a beating from his Mom when they were 12 for her. His plan to join the careers is literally only to get them off her trail like . . . I don't get it. He fights Cato just so she can get away sustaining a grave injury and lays down to literally die after he accomplishes this . . . Like you don't need to like him but it is made pretty clear what his intentions are. He has never felt threatened by her.
"I don't think she was that good in the books" she literally always got her food by shooting the animals in their eye 😭
The love in your voice when you see Gale EVERYTIME 😂😂
I was 12 when I read the books and the first movie came out. Sure, the deaths were sad then but reading/watching it now as an adult??? So much more hurtful! They were kids!!!
the relationship between Gale and Katniss is fraternal, people even thought they were cousins, kinda odd that they try to push this love triangle
I would like to state that Katniss is an unreliable narrator. What she thinks peeta's doing isn't what Peeta is doing all the time. She is pretty much thinking the worst of him because she fully expects him to want to kill her because that's the reality that the games shows to people. Also Petta is a bit of a damsel in distress. Also I hate Gail he gives frat boy douche vibes. He literally only realized he liked katniss romantically when a peacekeeper flirted with her. He gets angry at her for doing what she has to to survive in the games because she had to flirt with another guy. He's had s*** tons of girlfriends but he expects her to be only his that's f***** up. Also in the first book Gale as a romantic figure isn't really brought up it's mentioned that they have a more like relative vibe from katniss's perspective plus him being 2 years older than her and showing up in her life right after her dad died just gives me off vibes. Like a 2-year age difference isn't that big of a deal after you're 20 years old but these kids are teenagers. It's weird for a 10th grader to like an 8th grader and I'm pretty sure they were younger than that when they first met so yeah no. Gail overestimates his ability to provide where Peeta knows he's weak as s***.
You’ll learn in the prequel the true reason they remove the bodies from the arena, and it didn’t start because of the mutations. Thats just a bonus.
And they didn’t turn Cato ‘into a bitch’. They simply showed that as brutal as he was he is simply still a scared kid.