A first Soundaround of the brand-new Behringer UB-Xa, the long awaited Uliheim! Enjoy! Buy yours at Thomann: thmn.to/thoprod/580403?offid=... My Label on Bandcamp: drehstrom.bandcamp.com/ #behringer
Fantastic! Well organized and answered all of the key points. Thank you for covering a point I have been keen to have addressed, the keybed! To me, for my music, the sound is lush, rich, and deep. Several of the musicians who worked on the Beta testing and development did great reveals of it's sound. The keybed was my question. Congratulations on getting yours!!! Keep up the good work.
Mensch, das hört sich brutal an! Letztes Jahr habe ich zu Weinachten einen Hydrasynth bekommen, aber der UBX-a war auch eine gute alternative. Aber Am Ende versuche ich es immer, einen Sound nachzubilden., der dem U/OBX-a ähnich ist. Vielleicht nächstes Jahr... Hoffentlich! Jedenfalls, was für ein gutes Video! Grüße aus Mexiko!
I just learned that you can calibrate the filter to self oscillate with the atrophy settings. 😁 This video is really based on the UB-Xa like it comes out of the box. There‘s a lot more to do with it!
Awesome video review. Highly appreciate it. I will definitely be buying one in the second quarter of '24. When Big B releases the desktop, I will buy it as well to join the keyboard. Thank you for this great and honest video. 👍👍👍👍👍
FWIW, according to a Tuber called Synth Samurai, a desktop version is already produced - when released, who knows? - but word around the Samurai campfire says $899 USD or thereabouts. Again, FWIW.
@@davids.688 Yep it's true. I have the pictures. I've been keeping an eye on the development of that thing for years. I'm guessing they'll probably wait until sometime after the rush, but who really knows but them. They can barely keep up right now, that I know.
Hello! Nice review, very detailed! Thank you! How do you think, is Behringer capable to make a fully multitimbral analog synth... Let's say: 8 voices, 3 osc each (tri, saw, square, sine - morphing, PWM, FM, RM, Cross modulation), 1 noise/voice, 2 independent resonant filters (multi LP/BP/HP/Notch + moog style, serial/parallel modes, filter overdrive), stereo VCAs with separated panning for both filters, 2 ADSR + 1 AR envelopes/voice (all fully assignable for any input), 2 multiwave LFO/voice + 1 vibratto LFO, 8 part multitimbral, separated stereo outputs. Some DM12 style mod. matrix (with branched dependencies) will be a good part of this synth. Plus a modern FX block with separate FXs for every timbre + 3 send FX slots. Is this possible, what do you think? I know one hardware analog synthesizer that almost match these specs... It was priced below 1000$. Personally I doubt that Uli can "afford" to create this.
(2nd posting) FWIW, according to a Tuber called Synth Samurai, a desktop version is already produced - when released, who knows? - but word around the Samurai campfire says $899 USD or thereabouts. Again, FWIW.
Great video 👍. Can the sequencer be modulated using the keyboard? I really hope so because it's frustrating that only Arturia seem to understand it's a must-have feature in a step sequencer. Nothing is more annoying than using multiple patterns to implement a transposing sequence that should be one-finger e.g. Dervish D by Vangelis or Équinoxe Parts 5 to 7.
Glad to see this review! I really wish Behringer would start bolting pots and jacks to the chassis. I would make a world of difference in the longevity of their products
Let‘s say bolting them to the chassis would make the synth 500 bucks more expensive. Would you still buy it? By the way, eben Sequential does not screw them to the chassis on their Prophet 5 flagship synth.
Great in depth unbiased review 💯 Never actually owned the original OB8 But loved my Matrix 2000 back in early 90's Atrophy settings bring back some historical nuances ✌🏽
I only had Matrix 6r in the studio, that always had some problems and was terrible to program. Otherwise, I played the Matrix12 and the 4-Voice that were standing in my office at Quasimidi! And I have to say, that this UBi does the Obi really well!
Vielen Dank for the objective review. This machine is for those that don't want to fork over 5K for the OB-X8, or some insane amount for an 80s built, yet still be able to get out the same sound. 16 voices and poly after, that's something the originals simply don't have. And unless one insists to show-off the Ob logo on a stage (many actually tape their synth fronts) this one does all and double at half the price. Which is still considerable. Not your usual 500 gold coins Behringer Hardware.
I would wish that Behringer made the Performance Controls saveable. I know, the original OB-Xa did not save it either, but it would indeed be a useful feature.
It sounds absolutely epic in your hands. Your CP-Dampfer... preset is the EXACT sound I had in my head for this synth. I'd love it if you could share it 😊. I ordered my unit on the first day they were listed, but I'm not due to receive it until end January. The anticipation is driving me insane. In a good way.
Maybe it's just because these early reviews haven't found the sweetest sweet spots but this doesn't quite sound like an Oberheim to me - which is fine, since it's not. But, when I hear "real Oberheims" they trigger an emotional response for me that I'm not getting from this - don't know why.
This is the first proper review of the UB-Xa I've seen - Great stuff. Regarding the presets - I may be wrong but did B not try to recreate the originals? In which case they would not respond to the poly AT. However, it's a massive shame that B seems to have a thing about 'authenticity' (which makes me worry about the DS-80) and they really should have tweaked the presets and, heck, how haard would it be to add a digital reverb and delay algo?
The first preset bank looks like the old Obi presets. Concerning FX, I always prefer an external unit. The UBi sounds absolutely great through my Lexicon PCM70!
@@winesynths Ah. But the other presets don't use AT either? Yes, it's great to use your own FX but a couple of built-in ones would have helped, I think. At the price it's very tempting but I have a couple of software emulations... 😊
Nice one. How are the resolution of the parameter? i hope there arem more as 255 steps. because especial for the filterfreq u need better reslolution. Deepmind is a lovely synth, but i do always makethe the trick to route the modweel to filterfreq.
Why? The modwheel should have the same amount of steps as any other midi cc/nprn parameter.. isn't it? I dont have a deepmind btw.. that's why i comment this...
@@deantiquisetnovisJuno-X for example has high resolution pots & sliders. In its vintage model mode it reverts to their lower counterparts. It’s also midi
I do like behringer product, i think they make som good recreation of classic some times with a little twist and arforable. But coud not notic the oberhim cup plate. Do you have an oberhime to compare in your next video? And when using sequencing can you press poly notes ? :) Br
@@winesynths as on Polybrute the decision not to have a second set of outputs for the second layer is unfortunate; especially since there are no onboard effects (that I like) and being able to treat the layers separately would have been nice.
@@klstay You just connect each out to separate channel and pan it internally to L - R per layer… Idk if this synth has an option to spread voices in stereo per lsyer. In that case it would be better to have 4 outs for 2 stereo layers…
Very nice. Can't wait to receive mine (has not arrived yet). But makes me wonder, how Behringer always fails in the presets? Deepmind has pretty weak presets, Pro-800 same (or actually worse, it is weird when bank has no sounds I would use), and now again UB-XA. Why can't they hire a decent sound designer to make decent presets as pretty much everybody else succeeds in that. IMO presets should at least demonstrate the features of the synth and act as quick-starting point for own sounds, but nah, got to start from init sound apparently with this one too.
I think that the first bank contains the original 80ies Oberheim presets. Banks B,C &D are definitely more interesting and offer good sounds to start your own.
@@winesynths Thanks. Sounds good, can store own sounds then in place of bank A with no mercy. I am not really looking for nostalgia but something that I can find useful in my productions and that would a little bit also avoid the concept of "painting with numbers", instead of Serum and CS80V instances, use this.
Make your own if you think the presets are so terrible! If you can't, there why are you complaining? On the deepmind you can even combine 4 different shitty presets if you want and fade between The deepmind also has some great presets, especially if you open up the mod matrix (have you ever even touched it?l) and see all the details that go into some of them Presets should only be used to save settings you can never remember fully. You should be working on creating any sound you imagine FROM SCRATCH on something that has no presets.
What could be the perfect first guitar for a Synth player like me? 😁 I would say that it is a copy of a very traditional instrument. Like if you buy an Epiphone LesPaul instead of a „real“ Gibson. Or Squier vs Fender.
it is obvious UB-XA is made with lots of care and love. Well done! sound gorgeous, keybed playable does not feel "cheap". This is a powerhouse synth. could be nice if it can be customized, side panels, knobs etc. also looking for firmware upgrades. sure there will be some "easter eggs"
Ah! Yes that's true! Also with the Split and Double mode there are lot more of possibilities combining it with the arpeggiator. But then the video would have exceeded any reasonable length! 🙀
It seems that there‘s a fan inside. It did not kick in until now. And there is a possibility in the menu to disable it. On the other hand it‘s cool for live musicians in hot countries! 😁
This synth looks like it's built like a brick s-house. When Behringer really wants to build something right, the excel in build quality. Other times, not so much... but I have the vocoder and I am impressed by how solid it's built, and I am looking forward to this one because it looks like they put just as much effort into it.
I own the DEEPMIND12 & it is built like a truck. This has a similar build quality & I suspect the DEEPMIND12 can recreate the sound of the UB-Xa with added built in effects on board with the DM12. Tho’ the UB-Xa is tempting, my DM12 has more flexibility, minus 4 voices…& poly-after-touch.
I’ve got dm 12 and 2600, access virus, romplers, model d, Osmose, and some eurorack. I ❤ the UBX-a, unique, gorgeous stereo voice placement, simple, but Vintage modes are really rich variety. It’s a steal, exceeds my expectations 🎉 Working MPE control from Osmose now. I loved DM12, but for me this is another league. Very Inspiring 😅 and affordable.
Sound is ok, but the wobbly feeling by twisting knobs was for me reason enough to send it back. Built quality compared to sequential or Moog is really disappointing, expect you just get what you pay for..; ) If Behringer decide to make a V2 with better built quality even for around 300.- Euros or so more i would buy it!
One knob per function is not true. Almost any OB8 Page 2 parameter is printed underneath the according buttons and knobs, nearly the same as in later versions of the original.
If a synth has onboard FX - people are complaining. If a synth has no onboard FX - people are complaining..... Hm. Anyways. If i had space for this synth, i would buy it. So i am waiting for the desktop version.
I am not complaining at all! I love my vintage Reverbs! And the UB-Xa sounds absolutely amazing with a Roland SRV-2000. I just wanted to mention it, because nowadays people might not be used to get a big synth like the UB without inbuilt effects! 🤖
Nothing to add, Merci. De toute manière , je l'achète dès que je peux, c'est sans discussion. Merci pour la démo rapide on the go. J'ai apprécié le portamento en mode polyphonique, bref des heures à passer pour se créer ses propres sons et harmonies.👍🧡❤️👌😎
I think it‘stored when you edit the parameters. The Atrophy presets are not stored with the sound. I also habe to figure out if it‘s possible to create you own Atrophy presets. But the video is already quite long! 😁
@@winesynths Ich hatte da noch artig Dave Smith gefragt, ob ich einen mitnehmen darf. Vor zwei Jahren. Wo wir uns so kurzweilig unterhalten haben. 2024 bin ich auch wieder am Start, da sehen wir uns bestimmt wieder! 🙂
What I can't wrap my head around is...they created a firmware that had graphical output, higher resolution controllers, nice internal effects and a ton of options, even WiFi, software on top...and they threw it all out of the window and spent years to develop something with a two line LCD display. And that is the base for all upcoming Behringer polys. I'm all for vintage sound, but come on, do we really need a vintage user interface?
Honestly i came here thinking i would say "if you're not gonna get the real thing you might as well use the free OB-Xd plugin" BUT Goddamn if analog doesn't just hit different. Genuine or not this is still a sound unique to the physical domain.
Overall the OB-Xa is a fantastic synth (as far as I am concerned) at least for the price. But..... I'm not a heavy hitter, but if I play funky, the keybed already produces serious clacking noises!! And the sustain pedal response is..........let's say: peculiar.🤔
The clacking was also my first concern. But it seems to dampen with time and use. Or I simply got used to it! 😁 I was using a Hold Pedal from my Clavia Nordstage. Works fine so far.
And do we really need Hydrasynth when we can have VSTs that do the same and much more at much lower price? Really man, it comes down to individual preferences, musical goal, and workflow.
yes, but what bothers/annoys me more: no mod matrix.... The synth sounds good but mainly modulation for pitch and filter freq... So... the same old type of sounds... I already have a matrix-1000 and an OB-6 module (second hand 1500 euro.. it was an impulse buy lol) and no room for keyboards so... Edit ah, it seems it does have a mod matrix :) that's good
@@wonderwheel80s i guess some people like hardware but i agree that software sounds really good these days. I use a lot of software next to the hardware...
Not my cup of tea, I’ll wait to see if some more creative sound design can be made on this. But maybe I just don’t dig the OB sound overall, it always sounds too outdated for me.
Another analog synth… Hooray! Tried to like it but it’s not my cup of tea. I can make my Casio CZ-101 sound similar and if I have to add FX to make it sound interesting every other synth can do the job too. …not worth the 5+(?) years of hype!
if the series production will really sound like this which has to be proved then then only defect i can see of this synth is the ridiculous brand name , ugly name for a synth written on the back ....i hope the production line will sound as good as this...
this guy has affiliate links... so his review is tainted! the synth is lifeless and dull. I know one of the dudes who was a beta tester and contributed to presets and my dude hates the machine... lets be real. you pay for what you get. and your getting a trash synth. I'm no synth snob or behringer hater. i do own 4 behringers. but I own a real Oberheim. @ 24:15 it sounds like a joke.
Nice review, but i think it's ridiculous to say that "it's a clone of a synth from a company that was bankrupted decades ago" implying that there isn't a way to get a new Oberheim when they're very much in business again and just released a new Oberheim OB-X8. Sure, this is cheaper and more accessible to many, many people. But the biggest problem people have with Behringer is that they're not only making clones of impossible to find old equipment, but also new products from companies that do all the development and design just to get ripped off by Behringer. While this synth is definitely in a bit of a grey area regarding that it would still be nice to acknowledge that you can also buy a new Oberheim that is based on decades of work of Tom Oberheim, and that is not made in China by the biggest d**k in the music equipment industry.
Don't open the can of worms… People interested in this synth or Behringer in general don’t give a f… about morality when the price is beating and it’s transferable to all kinks of consumption goods!
Just because you have Behringer derangement syndrome doesn't mean it's ok to come here and troll. Look at it objectively. Is the new oberheim extremely overpriced? Yes. Is the Behringer version affordable, well built, and sounds awesome? Yes. Does what Behringer is doing to the synth market make the vintage synth market look stupid? Yes. You may hate Uli, but I applaud him. He's not doing anything different and definitely not worse than any other manufacturer in China. In fact I have a friend that works in his factory and he's happy with the conditions and thinks it's pretty cool! So go figure.
@@earodeafchild really? Wow you seem to know me really well... Fyi I have a few vintage, modern, and Behringer synths. If I'm biased as you say, why don't I discriminate? What stupid thing to say!
I think that although there are many issues with Behringer standards (SWING for example is an act of obvious steal from Arturia) this particular synth in the video is not this case necessarily. Seeing how many innovations were introduced here, we cannot say it is just a "clone ripoff".
If there wasn't such a cult of old synth worship maybe Behringer could invest their time and energy in designing something a bit more interesting and exciting. It seems they are capable, but like many other manufacturers, they are stuck in the synth vomit rut. Having said that, the price point is impressive and does seem to represent value for money, which cant be said for some clones.
The UB-Xa is meant as an updated clone of the OB-Xa. The OB-Xa didn't have any onboard effects either, it had only a maximum of 8 voices (the UB-Xa has 16 voices), it didn't have aftertouch or even velocity, and it didn't even offer MIDI. It was costing around $5,000 USD back in 1982, equivalent to $ 15,000 in today's money, so more than 12 times the price of a UB-Xa! It carried a 1 year warranty, the Behringer has 2 years warranty. Also, with a 16-voice synth like this, you don't necessarily need a reverb effect, you can easily create pads and strings patches with long VCA envelope release times that will not sound dry at all. Your overall general attitude reeked of disdain for this product, even though you tried to say something positive near the end of the video, your lack of enthusiasm, as well as your inability to make this superb machine sound good, has not convinced me to subscribe to your channel, I'm sorry to say. You looked blasé about it, as if someone forced you to review it? Thanks for nothing.
My impression was the reviewer loves this product. I'm only 5 mins into the video, but all positive so far. And reviewer has posted comments too, all positive. I suggest you watch again with you mind open.
Vous avez tous vraiment un problème de mixage entre le volume du synthé et le volume du micro...une cata !!!...pour le reste beaucoup trop de blabla !!! Comme souvent sur TH-cam ... demo médiocre
A first Soundaround of the brand-new Behringer UB-Xa, the long awaited Uliheim! Enjoy!
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Great synth clones New era but No great keyboard players New era. Lol
All in the Same Key, isn't it?
klasse Video - die Folie habe ich auf dauerschleife gemacht 😆😆
This is basically the first review ever ! Great video, great work! We need to arrange a meeting in Berlin.
Whenever you like! Actually I liked your presets, the ones with the BB, best! 👍
@@winesynths actually mine are the ones ending with SK (synth king).
Lol, this exchange is fun! Please meet anyway guys! 😂. Nice vid!
So you see, I stopped before I went there and made my own sounds! 🤓
@@winesynths so gerade noch die Kurve bekommen :-)
Thanks
Great review. My one just arrived yesterday, so this was very exciting to watch. I have to wait to try it as it’s my birthday present 😂
Happy Birthday! And enjoy your new Synth! 🍀
Fantastic! Well organized and answered all of the key points. Thank you for covering a point I have been keen to have addressed, the keybed!
To me, for my music, the sound is lush, rich, and deep. Several of the musicians who worked on the Beta testing and development did great reveals of it's sound. The keybed was my question.
Congratulations on getting yours!!! Keep up the good work.
Mensch, das hört sich brutal an! Letztes Jahr habe ich zu Weinachten einen Hydrasynth bekommen, aber der UBX-a war auch eine gute alternative. Aber Am Ende versuche ich es immer, einen Sound nachzubilden., der dem U/OBX-a ähnich ist. Vielleicht nächstes Jahr... Hoffentlich!
Jedenfalls, was für ein gutes Video! Grüße aus Mexiko!
A really great Synth!
16:22 The Oberheim 12/24Db/oct OBXa filter does not self oscillate, on the vintage Oberheim nor re-creations. It's in the design.
I just learned that you can calibrate the filter to self oscillate with the atrophy settings. 😁 This video is really based on the UB-Xa like it comes out of the box. There‘s a lot more to do with it!
@@winesynths Happy Christmas
Thanks, a great demo you've made here👍The UB-Xa sounds great to my ears😃 I hope the Jupiter 8 clone will be next release 😋
More likely to be the Juno
Awesome video review. Highly appreciate it. I will definitely be buying one in the second quarter of '24. When Big B releases the desktop, I will buy it as well to join the keyboard. Thank you for this great and honest video. 👍👍👍👍👍
Looks and sounds like a great instrument. My Pro 800 might get some company at some point next year!
You won't touch that Pro-800 anymore! 😁
Danke! Great overview!
I really hope behringer make a desktop version of this synth of this fir those of us without the space for the full size kb version.
Absolutely! It's really big and heavy!
They did already. So definitely coming. When I don't know.
FWIW, according to a Tuber called Synth Samurai, a desktop version is already produced - when released, who knows? - but word around the Samurai campfire says $899 USD or thereabouts. Again, FWIW.
@@davids.688 Yep it's true. I have the pictures. I've been keeping an eye on the development of that thing for years. I'm guessing they'll probably wait until sometime after the rush, but who really knows but them. They can barely keep up right now, that I know.
Officially the first proper review of this Synth 🎉congratulations
Hello! Nice review, very detailed! Thank you!
How do you think, is Behringer capable to make a fully multitimbral analog synth... Let's say: 8 voices, 3 osc each (tri, saw, square, sine - morphing, PWM, FM, RM, Cross modulation), 1 noise/voice, 2 independent resonant filters (multi LP/BP/HP/Notch + moog style, serial/parallel modes, filter overdrive), stereo VCAs with separated panning for both filters, 2 ADSR + 1 AR envelopes/voice (all fully assignable for any input), 2 multiwave LFO/voice + 1 vibratto LFO, 8 part multitimbral, separated stereo outputs.
Some DM12 style mod. matrix (with branched dependencies) will be a good part of this synth. Plus a modern FX block with separate FXs for every timbre + 3 send FX slots.
Is this possible, what do you think? I know one hardware analog synthesizer that almost match these specs... It was priced below 1000$.
Personally I doubt that Uli can "afford" to create this.
Nice demo. I'd like to see a desktop module of this. I dont have the space for another full keybed.
(2nd posting)
FWIW, according to a Tuber called Synth Samurai, a desktop version is already produced - when released, who knows? - but word around the Samurai campfire says $899 USD or thereabouts. Again, FWIW.
Can hardly wait to get mine - have to wait a couple more months.
Great video 👍. Can the sequencer be modulated using the keyboard? I really hope so because it's frustrating that only Arturia seem to understand it's a must-have feature in a step sequencer. Nothing is more annoying than using multiple patterns to implement a transposing sequence that should be one-finger e.g. Dervish D by Vangelis or Équinoxe Parts 5 to 7.
I see, that I will have to go deeper in a lot of details of the UB! Thanks for your Input! 🍀
Glad to see this review! I really wish Behringer would start bolting pots and jacks to the chassis. I would make a world of difference in the longevity of their products
Let‘s say bolting them to the chassis would make the synth 500 bucks more expensive. Would you still buy it? By the way, eben Sequential does not screw them to the chassis on their Prophet 5 flagship synth.
Thats why you pay for a real Oberheim, things are done correctly.
@@SuperGeorge2112are they? Can you post a picture as proof?
Bravo!!! Exactly the instrument I was hoping for!! Thank you so much!
Great in depth unbiased review 💯
Never actually owned the original OB8
But loved my Matrix 2000 back in early 90's
Atrophy settings bring back some historical nuances ✌🏽
I only had Matrix 6r in the studio, that always had some problems and was terrible to program. Otherwise, I played the Matrix12 and the 4-Voice that were standing in my office at Quasimidi! And I have to say, that this UBi does the Obi really well!
Vielen Dank for the objective review. This machine is for those that don't want to fork over 5K for the OB-X8, or some insane amount for an 80s built, yet still be able to get out the same sound. 16 voices and poly after, that's something the originals simply don't have. And unless one insists to show-off the Ob logo on a stage (many actually tape their synth fronts) this one does all and double at half the price. Which is still considerable. Not your usual 500 gold coins Behringer Hardware.
Can’t wait for the desktop version!
Gorgeous synth! Can't wait 'til the desktop version is released!!
I would wish that Behringer made the Performance Controls saveable. I know, the original OB-Xa did not save it either, but it would indeed be a useful feature.
This looks dope! I've been wanting a polyphonic analog to go along side my Hydrasynth Deluxe, this might be it!
Me too, can’t wait for my pre-order Uubie!
Thank you! Appreciate the thorough overview of this.
It sounds absolutely epic in your hands. Your CP-Dampfer... preset is the EXACT sound I had in my head for this synth. I'd love it if you could share it 😊. I ordered my unit on the first day they were listed, but I'm not due to receive it until end January. The anticipation is driving me insane. In a good way.
Wow, I ordered December 4th and was quoted a May ship date!
wonderful! i am sorely tempted by it right off the bat, i must admit ^^
Maybe it's just because these early reviews haven't found the sweetest sweet spots but this doesn't quite sound like an Oberheim to me - which is fine, since it's not. But, when I hear "real Oberheims" they trigger an emotional response for me that I'm not getting from this - don't know why.
It's the "Vintage Effect"! I know it! 😁
there is no competition in this price range for what it offers. A korg Prologue 16 perhaps, but that one doesn't offer aftertouch & sequencer
Unfortunately, the prologue is out of production now, or so most e-shops say.
just like Doctor Mix LOL!
I have to improve my unboxing skills! 😁
@@winesynths You have me laughing for days! I really appreciated that move.
This is a great review/initial demo. Very informative. Thank you.
This is the first proper review of the UB-Xa I've seen - Great stuff. Regarding the presets - I may be wrong but did B not try to recreate the originals? In which case they would not respond to the poly AT. However, it's a massive shame that B seems to have a thing about 'authenticity' (which makes me worry about the DS-80) and they really should have tweaked the presets and, heck, how haard would it be to add a digital reverb and delay algo?
The first preset bank looks like the old Obi presets. Concerning FX, I always prefer an external unit. The UBi sounds absolutely great through my Lexicon PCM70!
@@winesynths Ah. But the other presets don't use AT either? Yes, it's great to use your own FX but a couple of built-in ones would have helped, I think.
At the price it's very tempting but I have a couple of software emulations... 😊
Nice one. How are the resolution of the parameter?
i hope there arem more as 255 steps. because especial for the filterfreq u need better reslolution. Deepmind is a lovely synth, but i do always makethe the trick to route the modweel to filterfreq.
Good question! I will put it on the list for the indepth video!
Why? The modwheel should have the same amount of steps as any other midi cc/nprn parameter.. isn't it? I dont have a deepmind btw.. that's why i comment this...
255 steps is what Midi gives you.
@@deantiquisetnovisJuno-X for example has high resolution pots & sliders. In its vintage model mode it reverts to their lower counterparts. It’s also midi
i use the modulation matrix there i can add just some % of the modweel.. so i can play in a spectrum of the freq@@miffebarbez
I do like behringer product, i think they make som good recreation of classic some times with a little twist and arforable. But coud not notic the oberhim cup plate. Do you have an oberhime to compare in your next video? And when using sequencing can you press poly notes ? :)
Br
We will see what comes next! 😁
Just got my today, and all I can say is wow.Love at first hear.Own the P6, P12 but I say this one is also special.
It sounds so sweet to my ears! Good review, subbed!
Yeah! Finally the Behringer UB-Xa! Great one!
Can 1 layer be assigned to the stereo outs while the other layer assigned to mono output? (My suspicion is not)
Interesting question! I will have to go more into detail for sure!
@@winesynths as on Polybrute the decision not to have a second set of outputs for the second layer is unfortunate; especially since there are no onboard effects (that I like) and being able to treat the layers separately would have been nice.
Nope you have both layers on stereo outs (L-R)
@@Strepite what a lost opportunity; especially on something they worked on so hard and for so long.
@@klstay You just connect each out to separate channel and pan it internally to L - R per layer… Idk if this synth has an option to spread voices in stereo per lsyer. In that case it would be better to have 4 outs for 2 stereo layers…
Very nice. Can't wait to receive mine (has not arrived yet). But makes me wonder, how Behringer always fails in the presets? Deepmind has pretty weak presets, Pro-800 same (or actually worse, it is weird when bank has no sounds I would use), and now again UB-XA. Why can't they hire a decent sound designer to make decent presets as pretty much everybody else succeeds in that. IMO presets should at least demonstrate the features of the synth and act as quick-starting point for own sounds, but nah, got to start from init sound apparently with this one too.
I think that the first bank contains the original 80ies Oberheim presets. Banks B,C &D are definitely more interesting and offer good sounds to
start your own.
@@winesynths Thanks. Sounds good, can store own sounds then in place of bank A with no mercy. I am not really looking for nostalgia but something that I can find useful in my productions and that would a little bit also avoid the concept of "painting with numbers", instead of Serum and CS80V instances, use this.
Make your own if you think the presets are so terrible!
If you can't, there why are you complaining?
On the deepmind you can even combine 4 different shitty presets if you want and fade between
The deepmind also has some great presets, especially if you open up the mod matrix (have you ever even touched it?l) and see all the details that go into some of them
Presets should only be used to save settings you can never remember fully.
You should be working on creating any sound you imagine FROM SCRATCH on something that has no presets.
I know the Pro-800 replicated the original sound banks, which I think is why the presets weren't very impressive.
I've yet to own a synth that I like the factory presets.
Great review! One of the few videos that makes me run to check the availability.😎
Availability is the weak point, unfortunately! But in this case patience will be highly rewarded! 😁
I’m a guitar player in search of first synth is this the one I need ?
What could be the perfect first guitar for a Synth player like me? 😁
I would say that it is a copy of a very traditional instrument. Like if you buy an Epiphone LesPaul instead of a „real“ Gibson. Or Squier vs Fender.
it is obvious UB-XA is made with lots of care and love. Well done! sound gorgeous, keybed playable does not feel "cheap". This is a powerhouse synth. could be nice if it can be customized, side panels, knobs etc. also looking for firmware upgrades. sure there will be some "easter eggs"
sounds nothing like an Oberheim.
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Thanks for the long demo. The only thing you missed was that you could transpose the sequences over the keyboard in live.
Ah! Yes that's true! Also with the Split and Double mode there are lot more of possibilities combining it with the arpeggiator. But then the video would have exceeded any reasonable length! 🙀
there are air vents in the back, are there any built-in fans?
It seems that there‘s a fan inside. It did not kick in until now. And there is a possibility in the menu to disable it. On the other hand it‘s cool for live musicians in hot countries! 😁
This synth looks like it's built like a brick s-house. When Behringer really wants to build something right, the excel in build quality. Other times, not so much... but I have the vocoder and I am impressed by how solid it's built, and I am looking forward to this one because it looks like they put just as much effort into it.
The built quality is absolutely comparable to the vocoder. To me far better than everything that comes from Korg or Roland nowadays.
Note: Portamento has a "bend" mode too. Pretty cool.
Yes!
Do you like it more than the Deepmind?
I don‘t have a Deepmind. But a Juno-6 and a JX-8P. And I still prefer the Roland Sound for my kind of music! 😁
I own the DEEPMIND12 & it is built like a truck. This has a similar build quality & I suspect the DEEPMIND12 can recreate the sound of the UB-Xa with added built in effects on board with the DM12. Tho’ the UB-Xa is tempting, my DM12 has more flexibility, minus 4 voices…& poly-after-touch.
@@electro808kat I found a video online of someone making an Oberheim style brass pad on their Deepmind so you're right.
Geil wäre das ganze in unsere Muttersprache , klar nicht diese Reichweite aber nun ja freu mich immer über solch gute Videos in deutsch …
My question is … I have a Deepmind 12, 2600, Moog Matriarch And Akai Force and Keystep Pro…- will this synth add anything I don’t already have?
It heavily depends on the style of music you make! I just wrote a skript for a new video about this question. So watch out!
I’ve got dm 12 and 2600, access virus, romplers, model d, Osmose, and some eurorack. I ❤ the UBX-a, unique, gorgeous stereo voice placement, simple, but Vintage modes are really rich variety. It’s a steal, exceeds my expectations 🎉 Working MPE control from Osmose now. I loved DM12, but for me this is another league. Very Inspiring 😅 and affordable.
Sound is ok, but the wobbly feeling by twisting knobs was for me reason enough to send it back. Built quality compared to sequential or Moog is really disappointing, expect you just get what you pay for..; ) If Behringer decide to make a V2 with better built quality even for around 300.- Euros or so more i would buy it!
Great review of a great synth! I'm looking forward for summer'24 when it finally will be available!
got to wait until May here in USA
Yeah, what the hell's up with that? I'm so confused.
great review -> BUT: THAT T-SHIRT !!!! NEED ONE :)
Mmmh! There might be a Möglichkeit! 😁
Wow,it sounds like a CS80!
😂No.
One knob per function is not true. Almost any OB8 Page 2 parameter is printed underneath the according buttons and knobs, nearly the same as in later versions of the original.
If a synth has onboard FX - people are complaining. If a synth has no onboard FX - people are complaining..... Hm. Anyways. If i had space for this synth, i would buy it. So i am waiting for the desktop version.
I am not complaining at all! I love my vintage Reverbs! And the UB-Xa sounds absolutely amazing with a Roland SRV-2000. I just wanted to mention it, because nowadays people might not be used to get a big synth like the UB without inbuilt effects! 🤖
Nothing to add, Merci. De toute manière , je l'achète dès que je peux, c'est sans discussion. Merci pour la démo rapide on the go. J'ai apprécié le portamento en mode polyphonique, bref des heures à passer pour se créer ses propres sons et harmonies.👍🧡❤️👌😎
I like the name!! 😂😂
Is atrophy stored per preset?
I think it‘stored when you edit the parameters. The Atrophy presets are not stored with the sound. I also habe to figure out if it‘s possible to create you own Atrophy presets. But the video is already quite long! 😁
@@winesynths My first feature request then.
All 8 atrophy presets can be edited to your personal preference. You can even name them as you like.
hahaha, der Oberheim-Untersetzer 😂🎉❤
Cool oder! Gabs auf der Superbooth! 🫣
@@winesynths Ich hatte da noch artig Dave Smith gefragt, ob ich einen mitnehmen darf. Vor zwei Jahren. Wo wir uns so kurzweilig unterhalten haben. 2024 bin ich auch wieder am Start, da sehen wir uns bestimmt wieder! 🙂
Did you say "share my first depressions"?! Maybe it was me ... thanks anyway for the demo.
Nice! Schönes Video! Und spätestens abMinute 33 sollte man überzeugt sein, dass der Synth klingt!
Danke fürs Feedback! 🤖
If it doesn't sound like OBXa I won't buy it, the nice thing is that it's a clone close to the original, but this sounds more like a DSI Mopho X4
What I can't wrap my head around is...they created a firmware that had graphical output, higher resolution controllers, nice internal effects and a ton of options, even WiFi, software on top...and they threw it all out of the window and spent years to develop something with a two line LCD display. And that is the base for all upcoming Behringer polys.
I'm all for vintage sound, but come on, do we really need a vintage user interface?
This interface is everything I need.
Honestly i came here thinking i would say "if you're not gonna get the real thing you might as well use the free OB-Xd plugin"
BUT
Goddamn if analog doesn't just hit different. Genuine or not this is still a sound unique to the physical domain.
Hach, klingt so fett, bratzig und charaktervoll wie ich gehofft habe!
Manchmal sogar schon etwas zu viel triefendes Fett. Fast wie in der Pommesbude! 😋
So its a Nerfed Deepmind 12 ?
It's completely different than a Deepmind.
Overall the OB-Xa is a fantastic synth (as far as I am concerned) at least for the price. But..... I'm not a heavy hitter, but if I play funky, the keybed already produces serious clacking noises!! And the sustain pedal response is..........let's say: peculiar.🤔
The clacking was also my first concern. But it seems to dampen with time and use. Or I simply got used to it! 😁 I was using a Hold Pedal from my Clavia Nordstage. Works fine so far.
It looks huge
it is!
@@winesynths i have one on order but not sure if its going to fit on my rhodes!
Geniales Shirt ❤
Uliheim loool and happy to hear you don’t like presets .
Nice synth. But the question is do we really need true analog when we can have Hydrasyntch that does this same and much more in similar price?
It’s a matter of taste! I largely prefer a synth like this one over a Hydra which is also a great instrument. No doubt.
And do we really need Hydrasynth when we can have VSTs that do the same and much more at much lower price? Really man, it comes down to individual preferences, musical goal, and workflow.
yes, but what bothers/annoys me more: no mod matrix.... The synth sounds good but mainly modulation for pitch and filter freq... So... the same old type of sounds... I already have a matrix-1000 and an OB-6 module (second hand 1500 euro.. it was an impulse buy lol) and no room for keyboards so... Edit ah, it seems it does have a mod matrix :) that's good
@@wonderwheel80s i guess some people like hardware but i agree that software sounds really good these days. I use a lot of software next to the hardware...
Yes. We need analog.
Not my cup of tea, I’ll wait to see if some more creative sound design can be made on this. But maybe I just don’t dig the OB sound overall, it always sounds too outdated for me.
which one is better the oberheim one or the behringer one ?
Yes
14:45 ... und dann kam die Katze rein
Behringer ubx
Another analog synth… Hooray!
Tried to like it but it’s not my cup of tea.
I can make my Casio CZ-101 sound similar and if I have to add FX to make it sound interesting every other synth can do the job too.
…not worth the 5+(?) years of hype!
You just don’t dig the Oberheim sound… and that’s fine, neither do I… too outdated & “vintage”
if the series production will really sound like this which has to be proved then then only defect i can see of this synth is the ridiculous brand name , ugly name for a synth written on the back ....i hope the production line will sound as good as this...
This is a production model bought from Thomann! Obviously I was among the first to order one. 😉
Are you sure Uli didn't send you his best grapes for the best wine Ubxa 🙃
this guy has affiliate links... so his review is tainted! the synth is lifeless and dull. I know one of the dudes who was a beta tester and contributed to presets and my dude hates the machine... lets be real. you pay for what you get. and your getting a trash synth. I'm no synth snob or behringer hater. i do own 4 behringers. but I own a real Oberheim. @ 24:15 it sounds like a joke.
Affiliate links = tainted 😂 ooooook thats an overgeneralization
This sounds amazing to me
I envy you 👍🏻
Waiting for sounds with no talking.
Behringer UB-Xa: 15 minutes live sound tweaking
th-cam.com/video/M1oJ38JEZbA/w-d-xo.html
Not terribly musical sounding and the LFOs dont go fast enough nor slow enough for my taste
"not terribly musical sounding" ...
sound massively fat and fantastic!
I'm sorry, but the sound is thin - I think the recording is not done properly. It sounds not direct, more distant.
Just don‘t listen to it on your phone! 🤖
@@winesynths of course I listened to it on proper headphones...
traduction auto en francais svp... merci😊
Nice review, but i think it's ridiculous to say that "it's a clone of a synth from a company that was bankrupted decades ago" implying that there isn't a way to get a new Oberheim when they're very much in business again and just released a new Oberheim OB-X8. Sure, this is cheaper and more accessible to many, many people. But the biggest problem people have with Behringer is that they're not only making clones of impossible to find old equipment, but also new products from companies that do all the development and design just to get ripped off by Behringer. While this synth is definitely in a bit of a grey area regarding that it would still be nice to acknowledge that you can also buy a new Oberheim that is based on decades of work of Tom Oberheim, and that is not made in China by the biggest d**k in the music equipment industry.
Don't open the can of worms… People interested in this synth or Behringer in general don’t give a f… about morality when the price is beating and it’s transferable to all kinks of consumption goods!
Just because you have Behringer derangement syndrome doesn't mean it's ok to come here and troll. Look at it objectively. Is the new oberheim extremely overpriced? Yes. Is the Behringer version affordable, well built, and sounds awesome? Yes.
Does what Behringer is doing to the synth market make the vintage synth market look stupid? Yes.
You may hate Uli, but I applaud him. He's not doing anything different and definitely not worse than any other manufacturer in China. In fact I have a friend that works in his factory and he's happy with the conditions and thinks it's pretty cool! So go figure.
@@andrewc661 You're biased too!
@@earodeafchild really? Wow you seem to know me really well... Fyi I have a few vintage, modern, and Behringer synths. If I'm biased as you say, why don't I discriminate? What stupid thing to say!
I think that although there are many issues with Behringer standards (SWING for example is an act of obvious steal from Arturia) this particular synth in the video is not this case necessarily. Seeing how many innovations were introduced here, we cannot say it is just a "clone ripoff".
If there wasn't such a cult of old synth worship maybe Behringer could invest their time and energy in designing something a bit more interesting and exciting. It seems they are capable, but like many other manufacturers, they are stuck in the synth vomit rut.
Having said that, the price point is impressive and does seem to represent value for money, which cant be said for some clones.
Der Sound im Hintergrund ist ein wenig nervig während du redest
Oh God! Uliheim, I just threw up in my mouth!
I enjoyed your video in spite of the Uli factor, good work!
Sorry, guys, maybe you will not accept it, but it has nothing even close to original OBX8…
Oh, no external wall wart ;)
👍👍👍
The UB-Xa is meant as an updated clone of the OB-Xa. The OB-Xa didn't have any onboard effects either, it had only a maximum of 8 voices (the UB-Xa has 16 voices), it didn't have aftertouch or even velocity, and it didn't even offer MIDI. It was costing around $5,000 USD back in 1982, equivalent to $ 15,000 in today's money, so more than 12 times the price of a UB-Xa! It carried a 1 year warranty, the Behringer has 2 years warranty.
Also, with a 16-voice synth like this, you don't necessarily need a reverb effect, you can easily create pads and strings patches with long VCA envelope release times that will not sound dry at all.
Your overall general attitude reeked of disdain for this product, even though you tried to say something positive near the end of the video, your lack of enthusiasm, as well as your inability to make this superb machine sound good, has not convinced me to subscribe to your channel, I'm sorry to say. You looked blasé about it, as if someone forced you to review it? Thanks for nothing.
My impression was the reviewer loves this product. I'm only 5 mins into the video, but all positive so far. And reviewer has posted comments too, all positive. I suggest you watch again with you mind open.
Maybe you watched the wrong video? 😁
This feels like a "stick your head up a bulls rear-end to get a look at the steaks" rather than eating the steak.
I won’t touch this company’s products because of its total lack of ethics. Plenty of videos on this topic.
Not my topic, sorry! 🤖
Ummmmm is Behringer making a joke?😂😂😂😂😂
Way too much talking
Vous avez tous vraiment un problème de mixage entre le volume du synthé et le volume du micro...une cata !!!...pour le reste beaucoup trop de blabla !!! Comme souvent sur TH-cam ... demo médiocre
beh ecoute: achete le synthé et essaye de faire mieux! 3,2,1 et c‘est parti! 🙀