VAPOR BLASTING RUSTY'S PARTS - Vapor Honing Technologies - Weekend Warrior - VW BUS RESTORATION! ct
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Thanks for the link CT, but those are US prices and I'm in Australia. I think they'd be way more here (just about everything is). thankyou anyway.
CT Excellent video. You really explain a lot thank you! Ps. Can you tell me what model vapor hone cabinet you are using? And did you make a new video with testing out a more “aggressive” glass bead?
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Many , many hours later... one bolt is clean and ready to assembly.
A year later, all ready cleaned
After using my wetblaster for a month I added a dryblaster to my arsenal. Using very fine but aggressive media like 120 aluminiumoxyde to get rid of rust and old paint faster than any wetblaster can with only minor damage to parts and afterwards I wetblast with ceramic or glass beads to get a nice looking surface. This takes only seconds instead of blasting 20 minutes, with great results and keeps the dirt out of the wetblaster.
I minimized the flash rusting, since I do not have a rust preventive, by intensive dry blowing with a full pressure air nozzle and spraying parts with boesheald T9. This of course makes only sense with parts that will not be immediately coated with Cerakote or powdercoated where any grease needs to be removed.
For anything that is heavily oxidized you are correct. You will save your media in the wet blast by first going over it in a dry blast cabinet. I use a 120 glass bead prior to wet blasting. Add a rust inhibitor called Hold Tight 102 to your water and you wont have to worry with flash rusting on most metals. However on something cast it is still a good idea to blow dry them.
omg im addicted, i need a vapor blaster in my life, its like the missing link which has kept me from happiness for the last 40 years
Lately seem to be doing more advertising expensive equipment than fixing the van. Think you already earned your discount from the various suppliers etc. Show us some renovation please.
Hey Brian! I agree my friend. Time to get to work and stop messing around. Stick around! It's coming! Thank you! Stay tuned for more!
@@CTmoog You are so much nicer than I am! Mad respect! Love your videos!
@@CTmoog Such a gent. I should be more like you.
@@DuckmanCycles agreed, my reply would definitely not of been so nice 😂 respect to him
Mans gotta pay the Bill's. Cant hate a man for making a dollar for his sweat, plus finding balance can be difficult.
you need 60 psi while blasting so check your pressure while blasting not static
We used the vapor honer where I worked. It was a brand new machine, just purchased and set up when i was there. There’s some over kill in this video on the amount of time cleaning one area but as you get used to it you’ll find it goes faster. Still slower than a shot blaster but less damaging to the part. One piece of advice, order another pair of gloves now and always keep a spare set. Those will be the 1st thing that will need to be replaced.
I think you can use baking soda in that system.
What the continuous run valve does is it activates the unloaders in the heads of the compressor so that when the compressor reaches the set pressure the unloaders will hold the intake disc valves open and prevent the compressor from doing any work. Some Quincy compressors have this feature.
I built one for under a grand, works great on aluminum oxidation et. I still blast dry to remove rust much faster.
With a welder, sandblaster and a good compressor sure will make this type of work a LOT more fun .
Hey Tom! Yes it will. I have no excuse now. I better get to it! =) Thank you! Stay tuned for more!
I used a machine like this back in the sixties. They work very well. The drawback is everything rust right away.
Thanks for the demonstration. IMO I'll stick with my traditional Media Blaster! This unit was most probably much more expencive, plus there's the added step of knocking off the flash rust with a wire wheel or whatever B4 paint. But I'm glad you're satisfied and happy with it! ...Newk from Kentucky
Hey Newk! There are some really nice dry blasters on the market as well. I'm still figuring out how to use this one. The rust inhibitor will keep the parts from flash rusting. I just have to figure out how to use it the right way so it works. Stay tuned!
@@CTmoog Use a dip tank with the Rust inhibitor in it. This will rinse off any debris, prevent the flash rust as well as not use /lose the inhibitor as fast as in the machine.
Much faster and less labor intensive to batch clean and recondition fasteners with Eastwood’s vibrating tumbler, using the correct media, then cleaning product and then after treatment with a polishing media. Phenomenal results before plating or phosphate treatments as appropriate. Vapor blasting is good for aluminum to avoid surface damage that might otherwise occur with glass bead or other dry media.
Hold the piece with plyers and put a plate to catch the overspray will save maintenance costs sir
Good idea sir! =)
I recon vapor blasting is the best for small parts way better than anything thing else. Ive been amazed what can be done, even plastic electrical stuff like fuse boxes come up really well
It seems like a lot of those rusted bolts and other small parts would be just as well off in a vibratory tumbler that can work its magic while I'm doing other things.
I don't know if this idea was mentioned. But having a spindle with a chuck in there could be useful. Mount the round parts in the chuck and have it spin for you while you blast it.
Vapor blasters are great. We use larger units for industrial use. To keep your parts from rusting use HoldTight. We use Graco Vapor blaster units. Thanks for the vid.
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Thank you so much for an interesting and educational program. I have a 1961 type 2 split window van in thousands of individual parts :) that now needs to be cleaned.
Sandblasting takes a lot of time. My experience is that it is faster to clean in several steps. 1) Clean with scraper and brush. 2) Then use a degreaser. 3) If painted use a paint remover. 4) If a lot of rust use a rust remover. 5) Now you can blow much faster and with better results.
I use sand for steel parts and soda for light metals and parts that cannot withstand rough surfaces.
Greetings from Norway
Torstein Olsen
Hello Torstein! Thank you for watching! I really appreciate that! That is good to know. Thank for sharing! Thank you! Stay tuned for more!
With the sand blasting you could take less time and very quickly
Downfall with sandblasting is your removing a lot more material and distorting details, like lettering.
Wet blasting is good for home use because if you dry blast you will need a air dryer unit on your compressor. If you dont use a dryer the blast unit stops working when the damp air comes through.
So ironic that grit (grit scratches paint), air and water makes rust and a machine uses them elements to clear rust. lol. Great work and the pieces come out cleaner than just air and grit. The pieces look practically new in comparison. :)
Hey Ian! Yes, it is pretty amazing how it works! Thank you! Stay tuned!
Unless it was thin sheet metal. I would start with a 60 grit media. It won't damage parts like the bearing retainer or the pulley. One of the advantages of vapor blase is that it is not as prone to warp flat sheet metal panels as minimal heat is generated. Dry the parts immediately after blasting with an air hose, You can't just let them air dry without rust formation.
...and mom loves it for cleaning those stubborn oven pans with burnt-in cheese.
You could hit the parts with a wire wheel before putting them in the sand blaster, that way the blaster doesnt have a large layer of rust to cut through. Even soaking the parts in rust remover can work too. And I like your vapor blast set up by way, no dust is a plus! 😁
Buying a lot of cool tools. Deconstructing the bus and cleaning parts. That's cool. But soon would like to see you getting something put back on the van or sheet steel welded up.
Hey Jerry! That is the plan. Stick around my friend. We will be doing all of that and more. Thank you!
Harbor Freight tank sand blaster, old cooler or plastic tub and sheet of 5 mil plastic or tarp. Using a 50 pound bag of fine coal slag from tractor supply at less than 10 bucks a bag. I recapture most then run thru alum screen and use again. Does great job and its cheap. For what that machine costs you could be using dry ice blasting.
So, yeah, that's sort of wet sandblasting.. Very effective as it seems, I have no experience with wet blasters yet. Personally I prefer it dry, as the water gives you flash rust and sometimes it's better to avoid it. It's kind of relaxing to me also looking at the work beeing done and the nice results. Just pay attention on the carburettor aroud the vents and keep them from clogging with abrasive.. Mixed with water in tight spaces sometimes gets nasty. =) Excelent work, Mr. CT, keep on!
Hello my friend. Dry blasting and wet blasting do have some pros and cons. I think once I figure out how to use the rust inhibitor I can keep them parts from flash rusting. Thank you! Stay tuned for more!
If you mix up a diluted solution of Phosphoric acid (available at Home Depot) and dipped yout parts in it, it will leave a phosphate coat on the parts that offers some rust protection. In the auto paint world it's known as Metalprep, and will set you back way more than the Home Depot version. Phosphoric acid is blue so your rust preventer is likely phosphoric acid too. if you dont rinse your parts in the cabinet , but let them air dry, then wash them off with water, I think you will get better results regarding flash rust.
hi CT, indeed your sandblasting water works perfectly. but hopefully you can also stand up. If you are going to redecorate rusty you first do old parts with your water blaster and refurbish you do not immediately buy new parts. Then you save even more money for your project! This is my opinion.
Now all those bolts and nuts we be so susceptible to quickly rusting..Painting helps. but maybe you should look into nickel plating for the bolt heads or even the whole bolts, threads and all to prevent threads from rusting together. Nickle plating is easy... lust look it up. Then when you assemble the beast, spritz them with clear lacquer. You'll feel so proud of yourself when you show your work....Just sayin...Mike
So all I know after watching 15 minutes is that Vapor Honing just requires an air hose connected to the machine and then start blasting. Nothing about water hook up or blast media or water drain.Not a good intro.
Wow. Sure glad you have a air dryer on the line!
That was my first thought.
That's a great piece of equipment CT. It does a nice job and it'll pay for itself for sure. Also the fact that its going to save a lot of time as well. A win win!
Hey Mike! Thank you! Yes, it will save money and time in the long run. It will pay for itself in the first year easy. Thank you! Stay tuned for more!
so I take it that a sonic bath is on your list to buy if you are going to be doing carbs regularly. cleaning the jets and ports will be difficult with the vapor blaster lol
Hey Jon! Yes, I will be ordering one soon. This is true. That sand will get into all the jets and will have to be cleaned out. Thank you! Stay tuned for more!
I think it's awesome for saving original parts. Good for a restorer.
I have always been intrigued by vapor blasting.
It seem much more easily and speedy doing dry sand blasting... first view
Looks pretty clean but what a lot of water for just 1 screw!
Hey Peter, the water stays in the machine and is used over and over along with the sand/mesh. Thank you! Stay tuned!
Wow, that's cool CT. Really cleans up the smaller parts. Like you said the more aggressive media should work faster but on the thicker parts. As far as Rusty you'll have to take it somewhere like Classic Car Restorations. They have a isolation booth to shoot the entire vehical.
Hey Tim! Yes, I agree it works really good. It's fun too! Yes, Rusty would have to go into one just a bit bigger! =) Thank you! Stay tuned for more!
And a bit lighter with less rust😁
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I'm gonna help you build a big hood, then we get some hazmat suits.... put the whole Bus it in, and use this machine! LETS GO!
Let's do it!!! =)
Obviously a nice setup. And it seems you like it as well. I will stick with my media blaster because it seems to do the job faster and cleaner in my opinion. But that doesn't mean it is better by any stretch, just that I know how to use my media blaster to do things quicker and cleaner. You will improve your methods as well. Thumbs Up
I use Eastwood's Rust Remover for small parts. Just dunk them in it over night and Whaala no rust in morning
blow your parts dry even with rust preventive they still need to be dry before you set them down
Hey Jeff! Great idea. I will try that! Thank you! Stay tuned for more!
you can also make it closed loop and save on rust inhibitor
Anything you do you should blow off it prevents water spots as well
jeff pitchford closes loop how?
@@msengineeringdavid3148 There is a bath with baffles like a grease trap. The grit and dirt settles behind the 1st and 2nd baffles and on the other side of the 4th baffle there is a pump which runs the liquid back into the tank. Some are fitted with a ball valve to keep the reserrve liquid topped up.
Love the results on the belt pulley
Thanks Raul!
Raul looks are not what It's all about it may look good but it's not check out the groove
Wet blasting is better than dry blasting
But drying should be done in controlled environment to prevent oxidation or flash rusting as you call it
Sweet machine cleans the ball pretty fast nice
Yes it awesome! It's pretty sweet! =) Thank you! Stay tuned for more!
I love how quiet the machine is!
Yes, it's pretty sweet. No dust, no heat, no shop vac needed and the noise that comes with it. Lifetime warranty! =)
Don't think you'd have the room in your garage duckman. But yes it is a nice machine.
@@100Jeanluc Why not:? There is always room, especially if my NOISY and DUSTY blaster gets replaced, right? Hahaha!
Really like those welding tables , been looking for a simple and affordable design to build
I'm very interested in vapor blasting so it was interesting to see the results based on the grit you're using. One thing though, what is the point of an air dryer, when your water blasting?
Hello, It's a great machine I love it. I use the dryer for the pressure regulator. I didn't realize at the time it was a dryer too. You just need the regulator.
The cast bearing housing is probably made of iron which has a high carbon content. Iron will rust quickly. If it’s too big a problem then wipe the pieces dry with an absorbent cloth and perhaps even put them out in the sun after drying.
Hi CT, looks like a great system, bet it would be pretty pricey here in OZ. If it was me doing this I would protect the machined areas even though you are using fine grit. I would also dry the parts straight out of the blaster then put something like WD40 on it, so as to prevent the rust forming. Otherwise great vid and would love that unit.
anti rust additive in water will prevent flash rust for up to 72hrs....
I’ve had parts hydro blasted and have been told that it automatically protects the parts for corrosion.
Wow only $3000 for that weekend warrior setup. Definitely within the reach of the average restorer. /sarc
I rather convert my HF cabinet to vape blast with a fraction of the cost for this setup
That looks like a lot of fun.
Wow wonderful machine good work continue
Hello Ali! Thank you! Stay tuned for more!
That’s a lot of time to spend on a bolt seems you might have bought a new one
chris hammerhead sometimes you can’t buy new that looks the same.
It would cost more for the new bolt and gas to go buy it than run that machine for 2 minutes. besides isn't this a restoration?
What a great piece of equipment you are certainly getting good stuff always the way to go, looking forward to you doing more work on Rusty Regards Mike in the UK
Great video CT! Like the Polar compressor we have the same unit, workhorse! The vapor blaster is so nice unlike our ole media blast cabinet thats sooo dusty! Thank you!
Thanks man! You should check out VHT and order one for XMAS! =) Make sure you tell them I sent you brother. This thing is awesome!
Carburetor be all like, 'WARGABLGBLGBLG!'
haha!!! =)
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The results are very good. Keep going. One like that to me was very nice.
Thank you! Stay tuned!
I came here thinking 🤔 you were going to vapor hone entire van! 😃
Excellent, much less mess than the old style I have. Great video!
Yes, this one is well designed. I can't wait to use it more this week. I have a ton of rusty parts to clean. Thanks man!
TOOK EXACTLY 2 MINUTES FOR ONE BOLT ? ! I CAN DO THIS JOB IN 20 SECONDS ON THE WIRE WHEEL ! JEEZUZZ MAN !
It seems like a lot of water, electricity, and time is used for what seemed to be a negative investment especially when you factor in the cost of the total layout. Maybe current options are limited when it comes to larger applications.
it also seems slower than shot blasting, its more difficult to see your progress and it leaves the parts a strange colour
Nice, the pressur is very strong.
I prevent flash rust by blowing them dry right away and not let them air dry while still heavily wet
After blasting I suggest spraying everything down with WD-40 get the water out and protect against flash rusting
I watched this very closely but I never did see anything about the aggregate that is being used..
You did say that there are different grits, but, how is it introduced into the process??? Where is it collected? Is it reusable and how mich does it take???
Seems like a very cool peice of equipment but is it more cost effective in the long run????
I would like to have more information from someone that has actually used it to make a good decision about it....
Very cool cabinet.
Hey Greg! Yes, this thing is bad to the bone! Thanks brother!
Nice piece of gear for sure.......but they worried about water from the air line getting in it? Hahahaha
I'm a carpenter and i have a big underwear pile that i probably shouldn't put into the wash machine. I wonder if this blaster could save most of them.
Continous run is when it gets up to pressure instead of the motor shutting off a valve opens and the pump. Unloads .it saves all the current th motor uses on. start up and the pump cools down
Those gloves won't last long blasting directly on them.
Basically a water sand blaster . Nothing new I used one in 1978. You still have to watch for product in the threads.
Very beautiful carperature became new 👍
Hello taha! Thank you so much! Thank you! Stay tuned for more!
Got to be the first!!!! Never been the first, now I'll have to watch the video...with sand blasting video on youtube, even when it's speeded up I tend to fast forward through - this gives less visible results on camera because of the amount of water splashing everywhere - if anything I'd think about doing double speed and maybe narrating a little. The results were good - I haven't seen anyone try to sandblast a carb before - that looked like it was going to work pretty well. If you do reedit this, there's plenty of copyright free music to stick over the top...
Hey Stephen! Awesome! Thank you!
Hey Stephen, that is great advice my friend. Thank you! Stay tuned for more!
On a part like the four bolt flanged bearing holder, what effect does this type of cleaning have on the bearing fit? Is it possible or even easy to be too aggressive and end up with a loose fit of the bearing?
The pump keeps running but the heads are unloaded to take the pressure off. I have a 7.5 HP 3 cylinder 2 stage Eaton that has the same feature. I had a 120 gal tank, so purchased the pump and motor separately. I can't believe how quiet it is.
Nice and all but just the cabinet alone is $2,800+. Then a good compressor is needed or?
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Hello Iris! Yes, it's a "BLAST"! haha! =) Thank you! Stay tuned for more!
Is it a good idea to blast machined surfaces, especially closer tolerance bearing surfaces?
Hey John, Yes, as long as you use the correct mesh/grit. You can police machined surfaces with this machine using the correct mesh/grit.
Good to know what tools/machines to help with restoration CT !! Will make restorations run move smoothly as saves going out and paying someone to clean parts etc good luck !!
Looks like it works pretty awesome! Looks really high pressure did it distort the little piece of engine tin you did? Great vid as always! The carb is a cool test as you’ve got multiple types of metal on 1 piece. Thanks for sharing!
You can be serious look at the time he needs
oddly satisfied... pretty good and pretty beautiful.
Yes, it really is! I like it too! Thank you! Stay tuned for more!
Add another tank to your compressor to store more air makes a big difference when you're blasting. propane tanks work great for storage tanks I know a guy that didn't have a lot of room so he used #6 20 foot 6in PVC pipe in his shop rafters for storage tanks
Nice job! Works pretty good!
You should hold it with a vice grip inside the chamber.
Don't trust that the gloves will withstand that blast every time.
Nothing last forever.
So basically it's like the Dustless Blaster but in cabinet form......
So where does the word VAPOR come in? It just looks like a water and sand blaster to me. Except it takes ten times longer to do anything!
Is this pretty much a cabinet version like dustless blasting from what I have seen they seem to work on the same princeable.
Cool toy! Fantastic
Hey Ivor! Yes, it's a nice one! Thanks my friend!
Very nice!!! Wished I had a machine!!
Yes, it's pretty sweet. Save your lunch money! Thank you! Stay tuned for more!
CT It seems well worth it! Looking forward to more!
Saludos cordiales hermano. Vaya nuevo juguete, está genial, pero tengo una duda he visto que también se pule con grano o cáscara de nuez, para lo oxidado, cuál es la diferencia? De cualquier modo creo hace el trabajo muy bien. Saludos cordiales hermano, y pues te comento que ya hice mi cambio de balatas y amortiguadores y la emosion, sentimiento por hacerlo tú, vaya que es gratificante. Saludos cordiales hermano desde tierra Azteca
That thing is wicked! 👍
Hey Marci! It's pretty cool! =)
I know that more delicate parts you have watch the grit. The pulleys could handle it though. I would go gentle on the carbs though
Thanks Tony! Good advice! Thank you! Stay tuned for more!
i like rusty rngine is looking nice dont give up i want to see rusty in the road hell yeah
Hello Pedr! Thank you! It's going to be awesome! Stay tuned!
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Hello! =) Thank you! Stay tuned for more!