Armada reacts to "Melee's WORST Top Tier?"

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  • @UGSArmada
    @UGSArmada  ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Hope you all enjoyed the video!
    Was tons of fun to watch, make sure to check out the original vod/give a sub th-cam.com/video/WHCbxqDfXJ4/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=turndownforwalt
    Also don't forget about part 2 vs Fox and episodes vs Marth/Falco/Falcon/Sheik/Puff can be found here if you wanna learn more about Melee metafy.gg/series/peach-deconstructed?msp=Armada

  • @eboobooboo2348
    @eboobooboo2348 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Jmook is also my favourite player to watch. I do not main sheik, but I really appreciate him sticking to the character and labbing so many situations.

  • @chispablo
    @chispablo ปีที่แล้ว +11

    JMooks Genesis story was so Armada-like. He went to grands vs the #1 player and losses, even changing to fox in the last game. Next year he wins!

    • @lightbrand_
      @lightbrand_ ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Jmook about to win the next 2 genesis????

  • @skaptiben
    @skaptiben ปีที่แล้ว +10

    borp being the brother to pannakoek is crazy

  • @turndownforwalt
    @turndownforwalt ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Hey, that's me! Thanks for watching Armada!

    • @UGSArmada
      @UGSArmada  ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Awesome video dude, consider me impressed!
      Cool to meet you at Genesis and hopefully the content we worked on ended up every bit as good as you were hoping for

    • @exp5261
      @exp5261 ปีที่แล้ว

      don't give out your hard work for free

    • @zjmullan
      @zjmullan 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@exp5261?

  • @gatsuu
    @gatsuu ปีที่แล้ว +14

    armada is itching to play melee i can feel it

    • @5gods
      @5gods ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Dat enthusiasm is slowly coming back 🎉🎉

  • @5gods
    @5gods ปีที่แล้ว +12

    33:04 the case for using 1 TV
    the worst top tier is Peach, look at how no body has won with her since Armada stepped away.. but in the right hands maybe she is the best character in the game? (except vs. Puff)

    • @equinox3861
      @equinox3861 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      People seem to forget the massive difference in usage rate between spacies and Peach. You could argue that spacies are the most popular because they're perceived as the best, but they're also popularized by certain streamers. While Peach usage is extremely low, the top players make up for the numbers. Trif has been #2 in Europe for a while, Llod is top 10 player, and the SWT tournament had like 4 Peach mains in top 8. If you measure the average placing by usage rate, Peach would probably be the best (Yoshi has an even lower usage rate, but also a bigger placing disparity between aMSa and everyone else. Similar story with Jigglypuff)

    • @animaIpath
      @animaIpath ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@equinox3861you literally just said a whole lot without saying anything at all lol

    • @equinox3861
      @equinox3861 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@animaIpath Maybe try reading again? Sorry don't know how to help you.

    • @animaIpath
      @animaIpath ปีที่แล้ว

      @@equinox3861help yourself, cause you have no idea what ur talkin about lmao 🤡

    • @runetube93
      @runetube93 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ​@@equinox3861 what is it you are attempting to say? I'm with the other guy. The purpose of the post is lost on me

  • @chazsommer3194
    @chazsommer3194 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Thank you for the Melee content Armada!!

  • @daxmoney5011
    @daxmoney5011 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    4:20 Amsah one epita smash arena 2 which was one of only 2 majors in 2008

  • @billwoods7578
    @billwoods7578 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I've counted that Armada had 21 major wins but it says peach only has 16 main wins am I missing something.

    • @vanillafella4893
      @vanillafella4893 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      maybe not including when armada played fox

  • @nopaydue01
    @nopaydue01 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I think people got a lot better at getting out of techchase, with ambiguous di and no techs things have gotten way harder to react to

  • @charlesalvey820
    @charlesalvey820 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love the zoolandee reference going 10 miles over armada head

  • @MrKynzer
    @MrKynzer ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The goat has spoken

  • @typhlosion7872
    @typhlosion7872 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I thought that SWT was a major that was barred from being a supermajor due to the lack of some people such as Zain, Mang0, and Leffen. Was I misinformed and it was actually just a regional or super-regional? Or was it that Plup pulled out the Fox?

  • @MoR0NNIE
    @MoR0NNIE ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Seeing Armada react to 6:12😂

  • @Happy.Stupid.Neighbor
    @Happy.Stupid.Neighbor ปีที่แล้ว +2

    always a pleasure

  • @tkienjoyer
    @tkienjoyer 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    "I feel like I always _don't_ win," - A sheik player

  • @KobunLaunch
    @KobunLaunch ปีที่แล้ว

    9:40 WHAT???????!!!! its also funny cause borp seems to have stopped playing and panenkoek seems to have resumed uploading lmao. Only one can be active at a time ig

    • @lapplandkun9273
      @lapplandkun9273 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Pretty sure borp retired at this point as well.

  • @nedcurfman3486
    @nedcurfman3486 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I’d recognize that icon anywhere. Leffen really IS *just the worst*

  • @Boonda-p
    @Boonda-p ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you do a video reacting to Jerami's new video about you?

  • @matthiasschuster9505
    @matthiasschuster9505 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    7:59 Inaudible. Sheik`s what? :)

  • @animaIpath
    @animaIpath ปีที่แล้ว +26

    probably peach

    • @Finneagan
      @Finneagan ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I agree, unless you count pikachu as a top tier

    • @animaIpath
      @animaIpath ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Finneaganpikachu is definitely not top tier

    • @Finneagan
      @Finneagan ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@animaIpath I agree actually. Pikachu, ICs, and samus occupy a weird borderline tier between top and mid

    • @animaIpath
      @animaIpath ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Finneagan i say icies top tier yes; dysyncs are essentially wobbling that takes skill. pikachu and samus are high mid imo

    • @haterkiller1312
      @haterkiller1312 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@animaIpath wait so who is high tier on ur list then

  • @Astar72439
    @Astar72439 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sheik? Am sleep
    Ganon? REAL SHIT

  • @rapidretrovenue563
    @rapidretrovenue563 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Falcon easily worst top tier. Bullies all below virtually. Still an insane character to be a top tier to begin with, but yeah, frame data bites falcon when he's up against other top tiers.
    Though if we're speaking in terms of SOLOing, Falcon is one of the best to not need a secondary.
    Fox/Marth
    Falco
    Puff
    Sheik
    Falcon
    ... Yeah, I think that seems like the top tier group to me. Falcon CAN jump to or already be at #5 really, I'll accept him being on par with Sheik. Both Falcon and Sheik suffer limitations that will cap them at 5 tops imo, but its just that Falcon is the EASIER of the two to exploit due to frame data and simplicity, whereas Sheik is a little more nuanced.

    • @gomjabbar6246
      @gomjabbar6246 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I swear that both Falcon and Sheik getting their opponent above CC percent is a magic trick. Clearly it happens, but I don't really understand how they manage it reliably without eating a heavy punish.

    • @rapidretrovenue563
      @rapidretrovenue563 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@gomjabbar6246 CC do fuck with them ye though they're the 2 best tech chasers, so they compensate

    • @lewisbirkett4428
      @lewisbirkett4428 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Falco is better than marth

    • @rapidretrovenue563
      @rapidretrovenue563 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@lewisbirkett4428 yeah right lol

    • @lewisbirkett4428
      @lewisbirkett4428 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@rapidretrovenue563 top tier = loses no matchups. Falco loses no matchups, Marth loses at least sheik and arguably more

  • @ocircles738
    @ocircles738 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Falcon

    • @ocircles738
      @ocircles738 ปีที่แล้ว

      In my heart of hearts I wanna say Sheik but

    • @animaIpath
      @animaIpath ปีที่แล้ว +1

      and ur wrong lol falcon has two winning match ups vs two other top tiers, icies and peach. sheik has 3 winning match ups vs falcon, peach and Marth. Peach only beats icies. she loses to the rest of the top tiers

  • @Bladieblah
    @Bladieblah ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It's wild to me how they make an entire documentary about the first Sheik winning a major when Plup literally won a Genesis not too many years ago going mostly Sheik. Seems so desperate

    • @yurplethepurple2064
      @yurplethepurple2064 ปีที่แล้ว

      “Mostly sheik” bruh do you not understand the point of the video? It’s about solo sheik

  • @snoopyproductions3815
    @snoopyproductions3815 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    lfg

  • @billwoods7578
    @billwoods7578 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Sheik is the 2nd best character in the game imo.

    • @prodMAggs
      @prodMAggs ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Well maybe but she is top 1 in boring asf

    • @ajajajaj6336
      @ajajajaj6336 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      How could the 2nd best character have a losing matchup against puff, ice climbers, fox and arguably falco?

    • @rollingkollingsolling964
      @rollingkollingsolling964 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ajajajaj6336 Two stylistically tough matchups and one slightly losing matchup and the rest comfortably not losing to dominant matchups isn't bad for a potentially 2nd best character. Personally, I think Sheik was for the longest time held back by wobbling being legal and by the three best players in the world being a puff and two foxes, as well as the best sheik players in the world, Plup and M2K, not feeling particularly loyal to the character and switching off for harder matchups.

    • @animaIpath
      @animaIpath ปีที่แล้ว +1

      obvious troll is obvious

    • @billwoods7578
      @billwoods7578 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ajajajaj6336 Puff and ice climbers is the main argument against me tbh and I will admit that those two characters are the reason she wouldn’t be higher for someone. Against fox and Falco tho I believe she can hold her own and she does so well against the rest of the cast imo.

  • @matthiasschuster9505
    @matthiasschuster9505 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    there is just no reason to speak, while the commentator does. annoying

    • @Delightfully_Bitchy
      @Delightfully_Bitchy ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Pausing the video *then* speaking would be nice.

    • @matthiasschuster9505
      @matthiasschuster9505 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Delightfully_Bitchy yeah. I think he did once a poll, and the slight majority of people voted to just speak over the commentator.
      I imagine these people do nothing else other than watching Smash videos on TH-cam, and already know the original, so they want only Armada's opinion on it and be done with it.

  • @statisticallysound
    @statisticallysound ปีที่แล้ว

    So we just content stealing now huh?

    • @lapplandkun9273
      @lapplandkun9273 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Dude, Armada is just reacting. He's just only putting his thoughts in the video