Il genio dall'inbecille . Come il revolver che chiamate Rino inventato in Italia da Ghisoni di Pavia .spero abbiate Pagato i diritti. Non come avete fatto col telefono. Il quadrufilare è corto ma ognuno contiene cartucce per due dei vostri caricatori
I own this! Such a beautiful gun, and it was projected and built in my city too! The plan was for it to replace the police's Beretta M12 submachine guns, but when it didn't go through they were sold on the civilian market as pistols. An interesting and high quality gun! Also there's different variants for it, like there's also a ranger version with a slightly longer barrel and a foldable stock, and while it was mostly planned for the 9mm there have been 45 and even 40S&W versions made!
@@guilhermeroyama8842 I wouldn't know as I never shot an M12. The only ones that get sold here are ex-police, demilitarized (made semi-auto only) and extremely expensive for what they are, 2k euros at the very least. What I can tell you is that the Sites is extremely sturdy, has a really nice and crispy trigger and is also very stable. The upper receiver feels and weighs like a brick, it actually reminds me a bit of what a Thompson's receiver feels like but despite that the gun isn't too heavy. The only think that I dislike about the Sites is that yes, it has a decocking action but it does not have a safety lever.
Да, очень интересный пистолет-пулемёт! У нас в СССР о нём сразу же написали в нашем военном журнале "Зарубежное военное обозрение".😊 Даже самовзводный ударно-спусковой механизм есть( здесь в, очень грамотном коротком видео, его действие показано). Применены компактные многозарядные коробчатые магазины. Отличная "машинка"! Был очень удивлён тем, что его не приняли на вооружение итальянских "карабинеров" вместо "Беретты" М12, как планировалось. Лайк❤ и моя подписка! Автору этого Ютуб-канала Творческих Успехов и Крепкого Здоровья!🎉
Спасибо за всю полезную информацию и добрые слова! Я также удивлен, что они не приняли это на M12. Я очень благодарна, что вы нашли мой канал, ценю вашу подписку! Желаю Вам крепкого здоровья и успехов во всех начинаниях!
@@StayGoldGun Благодарю Вас!❤️ Очень Рад, что Ютуб рекомендовал мне Ваш канал, так как редко встречал такую рациональную и грамотную подачу столь большого объёма информации в единицу времени! Мне было весьма любопытно увидеть "в динамике" функционал и детали "Спектра" в этом видеообзоре, ведь давно известные мне "статичные" фото и схемы не давали всей картины. Считаю этот итальянский пистолет-пулемёт одним из ряда выдающихся образцов автоматического оружия( под пистолетный патрон), во многом недооценённый. С искренним Уважением.
Я так рада, что они тоже рекомендовали это! Еще раз спасибо за комплименты моему видео! Я изо всех сил стараюсь продемонстрировать, как все работает, сделать это информативным и интересным. Эти дизайны, которые выделяются из толпы, - мои любимые.
В наше время с этой "машинкой" было бы очень приятно и в магазин сходить и в поход, да и дома пусть на тумбочке спит рядом с хозяином! Но я живу в стране где нужно много времяни и труда потратить на разрешение, плюс ко всему скоро вообще запрет будет на все что огнестрел из-за мальчика который в школе папиным пистолетом пострелял! Но сам я с детства любил оружие и до сих пор смотрю и любуюсь особенно итальянским дизайном! Хотя и калаш душу греет, что скривать🤩🌹
Думаю, вы абсолютно правы: это хороший вариант для кемпинга, шоппинга и защиты дома! Жаль, что владение оружием настолько ограничено. Я также люблю дизайн итальянского огнестрельного оружия, и Калаш занимает большое место в моем сердце.
Wow my guy has Black Talons. The only ones I’ve seen in the last 25 years are the ones I have. Amazing. I still have a few boxes. They are very hard to find from what I’ve heard.
That's awesome! What calibers do you have? I just have 357 and 9mm, I wish I'd gotten more back in the day. They were expensive at the time, but now they're like $4 a round or more.
@StayGoldGun They are cool nonetheless but the 3D printing community went crazy with it, they have carbine kits for it, adapters for suppressors, etc.
They didn't actually shoot the black talons in the video, look at the casings when they show the black talon rounds vs the casings that are ejected when they're on the range.
Полигональная нарезка ствола дающая больший ресурс очень удачное решение. И все достоинства этого ПП уложены в маленькие размеры. Вес оптимально подобран ибо малый вес дает большое рассеивание при стрельбе. Этот ПП делали умные люди. Конечно и он имеет недостатки, а кто их не имеет? Даже я...
Ha ha. I swear it wasn't my intention to flex that hard and fire Black Talons! The amount I throw them into my videos, I'm surprised the nickel isn't wearing off.
Ha ha. Even if I had the money to flex like that, I'd still feel too bad using up so many Black Talons! Thanks for subscribing! Welcome to the channel!
Old Black Talon ammo, you don’t see those much anymore. I recall finding a box of .44 Magnum about 12 years ago and even some .300 Win Mag. Didn’t buy them because they were overpriced and kinda overrated.
You certainly don't! They're really just more of a collectors item now. They were never that great, but because they got so infamous and stopped being made so long ago, they keep getting more and more valuable.
Thing looks cool as fuck, but god damn is it ass in Black Ops 1 Zombies man. (Also cool how pulling the trigger after inserting a fresh mag primes the gun.)
I wondered why they did single feed too. Did you mess with the magazines at all to try to remedy the feeding problems? I've been lucky with mine, but I've heard of people having problems and cleaning the mags and lubing them with graphite.
@@StayGoldGun I did a ton of work and only ended up with moderate to occasional reliability. I had mine while at CST and put about 14-20hrs of labor into it making a new steel charging handle, re-bluing all the steel components, and adjusting the magazines. I had five mags. Three 30s and two 50s I believe. Only one 50 really worked in a reasonable degree. Ultimately I sold it for a small profit and have not missed it at all.
Wow! That's crazy! I believe it that you'd be happy to put that behind you! I hope I continue to have success with mine, I don't think it was fired much prior to me owning it
Охлаждаемый затвором ствол, выстрел самовзводом, боковой а не верхний выброс гильз-лучше оружия для внезапного приминения нет. Единственно я бы заменил четырех рядный магазин двурядным, как более надежный
@@StayGoldGun когда нажимаешь курок, должен быть выстрел. В ближнем бою против вооруженного противника задержка недопустима, поэтому надежностьэто на первом месте и ей должны уступать самые продвинутые, но менее надёжные решения. Удачи
Hotdogs, Horseshoes and Hand Grenades. I run with this, the 'SturmPistole' and usually some sort of random pistol, any with the Luger grip profile is great for hipfire. A real, functional Sturmpistole grenade\flare launcher just sold on GunBroker for $5,500. ☕🐝🇺🇸
My man is using black talon rounds. If you wanna shoot the same rounds for cheaper (but without the black colored coating) try the Ranger/PDX1 self-defense rounds. The essentially are black talon rounds, remarketed and rebranded to appear more for personal defense court instead of a controversial name like black talon. It would kill me to shoot these OG rounds. I don’t know how you could do it.
This is one of my favorite obscure firearms. The dope name, of course using it in games. But when I was working at an indoor range and store, I got to use one. And not a civilian but a real one. I loved it. I only have 2 obscure firearms I want to use but don't know if I ever will. The VSS and Kiparis. I have used the civilian ones or clones. But I want the real deal at least once. Especially the VSS, the sound it makes is tied with the MPS SD. It gives me chills every time.
Great choices! The VSS is a grail gun for me, I don't know if I'll ever get to see one let alone own one, but it'd be amazing to get some shots on one. The Kiparis is super cool, too. I like your taste!
That thing is so fucking sick looking. Loved it ever since I first saw it in the original CoD Black Ops. Idk how I like guns so much yet have never even touched one minus the shotgun I found in my great grandfather’s closet as a small child 😂 It was stamped 1907, wish I knew what happened to it. Bet it was something really interesting
Isn't it cool how these cool designs stick with us over the years! You don't have to touch them to appreciate them greatly! That does sound like it'd be a very interesting shotgun!
Got the pleasure to shoot a buddy's. Jammed on the 15th round. Also what an absolute flex, just loading Black Talons in there like they aint $2/round for "fancy HPs" lmaooo still want one of these because I love stupid guns
Rechamber in 38 super or 5.7, make barrel 3 to 6 inches longer, and a folding stock and you will have a great VIP protection weapon system! Someone please hook that up!
I remember seeing these quite frequently on Gunshow tables as a kid in the early 90’s, always thinking I was going to get one when I got old enough… Yeah, right 😂 unobtanium. Nice vintage box of BTs too. I remember seeing those on Gunshow tables until the libtardians went ballistic 😢
All this cool 80's and 90's stuff really dried up! It's too bad. The Black Talons are such a kind of funny story of media hysteria. All Winchester had to do to defuse it was rename them without the black finish.
Hell yeah. Basically a video game gun came to real life. Very cool in Goldeneye and Black Ops. Plenty of neat cool and interesting SMGs out there. Heard this was a good option for special forces out there that couldn't readily acquire or afford MP5s.
When I'd only seen it in games it felt like the games had come to life! Where did you hear about it's use by special forces groups? I've had a hard time finding any info on it outside of civilian use
@@StayGoldGun Yeah its a somewhat obscure weapon. Basically learned a bit about it from Wikipedia, the Spectre episode from Xbox Ahoy and Ian McCollum of Forgotten Weapons did a couple videos on it. Basically it was used briefly by the Swiss Army and Italian Special Forces. It was also used by the Lebanese military during the Lebanese Civil War and by the Kosovo Liberation Army and National Liberation Army during the Kosovo War. The pistol and semi-auto carbine variants were sold briefly in the U.S. and Europe. It is an item found occasionally on the European Black Market. So its description from the GoldenEye strategy guide about how its favored by terrorists, is somewhat accurate for its status of usage today. Unusual and out of production automatic weapons occasionally do end up arming terrorists after all.
too funny. I have a couple of cases of .45 black talon. given to me by my father in-law. been offered quite a bit for just a box..... also, glad to see it wasn't what you actually fired in the end. they are, for some reason, worth some money
That's an amazing investment you've got there. Because they got so unwarrantedly infamous and were only produced for a short time before rebranding, they've become very collectible
OMG trigger! Pull to the wall, there is no wall, then it creeps, then it takes a walk, then it loosens up a bit, keep pulling, and around the bend, then just when you think something's wrong, Bang.
Ha ha. It's pretty wild. After some practice, I got used to just the physical spot it breaks. It would have been so nice if they'd added a second stage wall or something.
Unfortunately none of these were imported before the 1986 ban on new machine guns. Sadly we're all likely going to see a lot fewer full auto's on youtube due to their recent policy changes
I always liked the sound when you charged the charging handle of this gun in BO1. For an all, stamped sheet metal gun, the Italians did a fine job with this one. Because of that, however, I assume it gets really hot to the touch after sustaining fire or being left out in the sunlight.
They did do a great job! It doesn't get that hot from firing, the barrel shroud really helps with that. From the sun, I'm not sure how bad it'd get, at least the fire control and grip are polymer so that'd stay cooler
I own a 40S&W variants. Unfortunately its getting new machined parts cause the hammer catch bolt broke and the rear plate latch snapped same day. Cant wait to take her home though.
Only Italians could make a magazine go from four stack all the way down to single feed and think that it's a good idea. I'm honestly surprised that it runs as well as it does but I guess that's what you get when you have decent engineering and plenty of testing
Ha ha! That's great! I don't judge you, however you come to know the Spectre is cool in my book. I play Pokémon Go, we all have our dark secrets. Ha ha.
They haven''t been produced in over 20 years, but they were never banned. Due to the false bad publicity they got, Winchester rebranded them as the Ranger SXT and removed the black lubalox coating, which was just to protect barrel life but got a lot of stories made up about it.
It's a fun one! The rear sight is just a plastic tab, basically the front sight, I think looks cool. It has a top folding stock that's really slick, but they're super rare.
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Call of Duty Black Ops vibes
goyslop in the mystery box
Absolutely!
Yeah👍👍👍
Black Ops 1 Rooftops Intensifies, also Stop hitting Metal Targets, they're annoying to hear
@@lahen507 ha ha, I always hear Frigate from Goldeneye looking at this. What type of targets would you suggest?
That trigger needs a passport
Ha ha, in the double action setting for sure
Wdym passport
@@irunsauce6437 because it has so much travel before it breaks and fires.
😂😂😂
Man first thing I said to myself was that trigger is fkin ridiculous. It doesn’t have travel it has a journey
From quad stack to single feed, all in one magazine.
Pretty crazy huh? And they work!
They are beautiful
@@davisjames8484 I agree! Cool engineering and look great too
They still make casket mags
How many do they hold ?
Almost fainted thought bro was gonna shoot the black talons
Ha ha, thank you for realizing I didn't!
I figured I couldn't be the only one who noticed😂
Ha ha
They’re black tips they don’t make them anymore.
Definitely, and haven't for about 24 years
I loved this gun in BO1. I didn't know it was Italian, though.
I never played it, now I feel like I missed out
@@StayGoldGunif you actually that bothered, go check it out. Otherwise dont bother. Its full Steam price is overpriced for a game made in 2010.
Oh dang, I figured it'd be cheaper these days.
@Luftwaffle_32 My brother probably has it, I might just play his.
Il genio dall'inbecille . Come il revolver che chiamate Rino inventato in Italia da Ghisoni di Pavia .spero abbiate Pagato i diritti. Non come avete fatto col telefono. Il quadrufilare è corto ma ognuno contiene cartucce per due dei vostri caricatori
Very cool and innovative only for its magazine. 50 rounds in something so short.
It's really cool, few have made the quad stack magazine work
And the awesome decocking/safety mechanism
100 percent!
LoL!
Props on the rage bait ammo lol.
The 90s media was crazy over these.
Ha ha. It's wild what hysteria could be caused by a black bullet!
The crazy thing is that Winchester still makes them. But they took off the black tips. Just change the name on a product and the liberals go away.
Isn't that amazing! I should get some Rangers and spray paint the tips
I own this! Such a beautiful gun, and it was projected and built in my city too! The plan was for it to replace the police's Beretta M12 submachine guns, but when it didn't go through they were sold on the civilian market as pistols. An interesting and high quality gun!
Also there's different variants for it, like there's also a ranger version with a slightly longer barrel and a foldable stock, and while it was mostly planned for the 9mm there have been 45 and even 40S&W versions made!
كم يبلغ سعرها؟
@@محمدحسينالبلداوي more then you can afford pal
Is it better than the M12?
My dad had one, and says It's one of the best weapons he ever used. Very stable and reliable.
@@guilhermeroyama8842 I wouldn't know as I never shot an M12. The only ones that get sold here are ex-police, demilitarized (made semi-auto only) and extremely expensive for what they are, 2k euros at the very least. What I can tell you is that the Sites is extremely sturdy, has a really nice and crispy trigger and is also very stable. The upper receiver feels and weighs like a brick, it actually reminds me a bit of what a Thompson's receiver feels like but despite that the gun isn't too heavy. The only think that I dislike about the Sites is that yes, it has a decocking action but it does not have a safety lever.
@ricardovonpepsistein3497 that's amazing you live in the city this was built in, and have one!
Goldeneye 64 vibes
100 percent!
When you dual wield them at least 😂❤
@@opeltheartist I need a second one!
Glad someone else felt the same.
Absolutely !
“There are ghosts in this veapon….AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!”
- Edward Richtofen
Ha ha !
Да, очень интересный пистолет-пулемёт!
У нас в СССР о нём сразу же написали в нашем военном журнале "Зарубежное военное обозрение".😊
Даже самовзводный ударно-спусковой механизм есть( здесь в, очень грамотном коротком видео, его действие показано).
Применены компактные многозарядные коробчатые магазины.
Отличная "машинка"!
Был очень удивлён тем, что его не приняли на вооружение итальянских "карабинеров" вместо "Беретты" М12, как планировалось.
Лайк❤ и моя подписка!
Автору этого Ютуб-канала Творческих Успехов и Крепкого Здоровья!🎉
Спасибо за всю полезную информацию и добрые слова! Я также удивлен, что они не приняли это на M12. Я очень благодарна, что вы нашли мой канал, ценю вашу подписку! Желаю Вам крепкого здоровья и успехов во всех начинаниях!
@@StayGoldGun
Благодарю Вас!❤️
Очень Рад, что Ютуб рекомендовал мне Ваш канал, так как редко встречал такую рациональную и грамотную подачу столь большого объёма информации в единицу времени!
Мне было весьма любопытно увидеть "в динамике" функционал и детали "Спектра" в этом видеообзоре, ведь давно известные мне "статичные" фото и схемы не давали всей картины.
Считаю этот итальянский пистолет-пулемёт одним из ряда выдающихся образцов автоматического оружия( под пистолетный патрон), во многом недооценённый.
С искренним Уважением.
Я так рада, что они тоже рекомендовали это! Еще раз спасибо за комплименты моему видео! Я изо всех сил стараюсь продемонстрировать, как все работает, сделать это информативным и интересным. Эти дизайны, которые выделяются из толпы, - мои любимые.
В наше время с этой "машинкой" было бы очень приятно и в магазин сходить и в поход, да и дома пусть на тумбочке спит рядом с хозяином! Но я живу в стране где нужно много времяни и труда потратить на разрешение, плюс ко всему скоро вообще запрет будет на все что огнестрел из-за мальчика который в школе папиным пистолетом пострелял! Но сам я с детства любил оружие и до сих пор смотрю и любуюсь особенно итальянским дизайном! Хотя и калаш душу греет, что скривать🤩🌹
Думаю, вы абсолютно правы: это хороший вариант для кемпинга, шоппинга и защиты дома! Жаль, что владение оружием настолько ограничено. Я также люблю дизайн итальянского огнестрельного оружия, и Калаш занимает большое место в моем сердце.
Man with black talon ammo too, very proper sir 😮💨
Ha ha, thank you! I was lucky to pick these up years ago
COD BLACK OPS 1 vibes
100%
Wow my guy has Black Talons. The only ones I’ve seen in the last 25 years are the ones I have. Amazing. I still have a few boxes. They are very hard to find from what I’ve heard.
That's awesome! What calibers do you have? I just have 357 and 9mm, I wish I'd gotten more back in the day. They were expensive at the time, but now they're like $4 a round or more.
Everybody's talking about Black Ops and I'm over here thinking where the fuck did you find Winchester black talons
Ha ha. I've had them for a long time, got them in a deal from a forum years and years ago
love this gun man lowkey one of my faves in Black ops this one and the Pm63 ong
That's awesome. I'd like to get a PM63 too
@StayGoldGun They are cool nonetheless but the 3D printing community went crazy with it, they have carbine kits for it, adapters for suppressors, etc.
@@deterrencedispensed4780 for the PM63?
Goldeneye 007 Vibes! Spectre Phantom!!!
Totally! The Classic!
It's looks like a tech9 and PPSH44 had a baby lol
Definitely has that look!
There needs to be more mention of the Black Talon rounds! Very cool
I appreciate you mentioning them!
Who remembers the phantom from goldeneye?
Absolutely, the first place I this and a lot of other cool firearm designs!
Who remembers black talons 😂😂😂
Ha ha! They're a blast from the past
The Spectre and the MPL are my favorite SMGS🥰
That's awesome! The MPL is so cool too!
are you wasting black talons for target practice?
my first thought too
I think target practicing with black talons was a bigger flex than the gun itself
might be a flex but a silly waste of resources
They didn't actually shoot the black talons in the video, look at the casings when they show the black talon rounds vs the casings that are ejected when they're on the range.
@@stevenbenedetti7694 good catch, saved a few of us some heartache
My God do I love this little thing
They're so cool, very distinct look
Sadly, those 20 round box Black Talons are collectible. You see them selling for $100 dollars for 10mm at Gun Shows.
Yeah. I've had these for a long time, they've really gotten expensive. I'm getting a lot of milage out of these using them in every 9mm video.
Dang been looking for a box and they are planking with them😅
@@katowolf632 ha ha, I didn't use them. I'd feel too bad since they're so rare now
Don't want to waist that ammo I have a pack been holding on to for years
Yep, it's just a collectible now pretty much
Полигональная нарезка ствола дающая больший ресурс очень удачное решение. И все достоинства этого ПП уложены в маленькие размеры. Вес оптимально подобран ибо малый вес дает большое рассеивание при стрельбе. Этот ПП делали умные люди. Конечно и он имеет недостатки, а кто их не имеет? Даже я...
Очень хорошо сказано! У меня тоже есть свои недостатки
Ppsh looking barrel and thompson looking body,just missing a stock and full auto
Yeah! I'd really like to find the stock. Full auto would be awesome too, but so expensive.
Y'all gamers either remember this in:
1. Black Ops
2. Golden Eye 007
Seriously! It's not in too many games, but it's in some all time classics
I don’t like most things Italian
Idk maybe it’s genetic memory
But, This…
I LIKE THIS!!! VERY NIICE
It's a cool design!
I didnt know this was a real gun, IMMEDIATELY recongized it from GoldenEye 64
That's awesome! It definitely made an impression in that game!
Ha! Cheater, cheater! Can't make a "flex" video, dramatize it and then switch ammo! Great gun o7, but you blew it.
Ha ha. I swear it wasn't my intention to flex that hard and fire Black Talons! The amount I throw them into my videos, I'm surprised the nickel isn't wearing off.
Who remembers this gun from Leon the Professional?
"Hey! What about the ring trick? Have you heard that one?!"
Awesome gun in a very awesome movie
Awesome reference, and remembering this was in that! Such a great movie!
Hope you didn’t waste those Black Talon rounds they sell for over $100 a box easily as they where outlawed in the 90s
Don't worry they're safe to be loaded and unloaded from another magazine for videos to come! They have gotten crazy expensive
I like how each gun in each video has wear and tear...scratches and blemishes so you know he trains with them and actually uses them...bravo good sir
Thanks dude! It's not worth it to me to have them if I don't use them!
Sold mine for $300 to a friend. That thing was ugly as hell. If someone tried to rob me I would be too embarrassed to pull it out.
Yikes
I've always wanted one of these since i seen them in Golden Eye 007 as a kid playing it on the good old N64! ❤❤❤
Same here! I hope you get one!
50 rounds of hollow tips, and that little thing deadly and the operation of it looks so smooth like it would never jam
It's very well built! If the magazines are well maintained it's really reliable
007 goldeneye to black ops 1 this gun is pretty underrated
I agree! I'm surprised it's not included in more games also
The Phantom gun, in 007 Golden Eye for N64.
Absolutely! thanks for commenting!
ahh this one,every thug in los angeles has this weapons in their poket 😂
Are you thinking of the Tec 9?
Cómo se llama el arma??
Sites Spectre HC
Is the magazine single feed double stack to triple stack or double to quad stack?
It's quad stack! It has a partition in the middle, and each half is double stack. A very cool idea
@@ricardovonpepsistein3497 interesting! Is it annoying to load at all?
It can get a little tough for the very last few rounds, otherwise surprising fine
Shooting Black talon is like shooting military grade ammo in Metro 2033
Ha ha. I didn't really fire them, though, so they're safe for Metro 2033 irl
Tec and PPSh did something in love hotel
Ha ha, for sure
Beautiful gun.
The Italians design things with a lot of style!
That's a long ass trigger press/travel 😅
Ha ha, it really is
The real flex would have been to mag dump those period correct black talons! Haha.
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Ha ha. Even if I had the money to flex like that, I'd still feel too bad using up so many Black Talons! Thanks for subscribing! Welcome to the channel!
@@StayGoldGunUse them Ranger stuff
Same s h i t, politically correct color jacket
I should pick up some Rangers!
@@StayGoldGun Good Stuff
Might paint 'em in black 2 have the same feeling👌🏻
Ha ha, good call!
Bringing back great childhood memories.
Absolutely! That's how I feel when I see this too
Nice italian concept. Love it
Absolutely! Italian designs often have a lot of style!
Ottima arma,non a avuto il successo che meritava
Sono completamente d'accordo! È un peccato, un design così bello
If you played Black Ops back in the day, you either loved or HATED this gun.
I definitely got that impression from the comments!
Dear God the it's the specter, loaded up with a full coffin mag of black talons, your aviator sunglasses are in the mail !
Ha ha! I wish I had enough Black Talons to fill the magazine!
Those are just so cool looking
These Italian designs have a lot of style!
@@StayGoldGun I carry Italian so maybe I'm biased 😅
Ha ha! Could be! What do you carry?
@@StayGoldGun Beretta 84BB, pretty much a smaller 92 in .380
Everything about it just feels so 😚🤌
Nice! Very cool. I'd like to get a Tomcat at some point
Old Black Talon ammo, you don’t see those much anymore. I recall finding a box of .44 Magnum about 12 years ago and even some .300 Win Mag. Didn’t buy them because they were overpriced and kinda overrated.
You certainly don't! They're really just more of a collectors item now. They were never that great, but because they got so infamous and stopped being made so long ago, they keep getting more and more valuable.
Reminds me of the weapon Blade had in the movies. Only with less balance. But the slide was as long I believe. 😂😂 And the bullets were silver 😂😂😂😂
It does look like it! His was a Mac 11 with a bunch of stuff added! Plus silver instead of black bullets. Ha ha
Thing looks cool as fuck, but god damn is it ass in Black Ops 1 Zombies man.
(Also cool how pulling the trigger after inserting a fresh mag primes the gun.)
They include the cool gun, but make it suck, that's kind of a backhanded compliment from the developers.
Looks like somebody pulled a Bill Cosby on a PPSH. It woke up the next morning and just wasn't the same😂
Ha ha
For the love of god I have been looking for Black Talons FOREVER
They're hard to find these days or super expensive. I wish you luck in finding them!
I had one a while back. Super cool until it won’t fucking feed. I’d love the concept revisited and not narrowed into a single feed.
I wondered why they did single feed too. Did you mess with the magazines at all to try to remedy the feeding problems? I've been lucky with mine, but I've heard of people having problems and cleaning the mags and lubing them with graphite.
@@StayGoldGun I did a ton of work and only ended up with moderate to occasional reliability. I had mine while at CST and put about 14-20hrs of labor into it making a new steel charging handle, re-bluing all the steel components, and adjusting the magazines. I had five mags. Three 30s and two 50s I believe. Only one 50 really worked in a reasonable degree. Ultimately I sold it for a small profit and have not missed it at all.
Wow! That's crazy! I believe it that you'd be happy to put that behind you! I hope I continue to have success with mine, I don't think it was fired much prior to me owning it
Хватит создавать оружие, лучше создавать искусство и созидать чем друг друга убивать............
Это искусство, и оно имеет множество положительных применений. Для убийства можно использовать что угодно, проблема в людях, а не в оружии.
@@StayGoldGun нет, вы написали полный бред пытаясь оправдать"культ оружия"
Ваше мнение основано на вашем жизненном опыте или на том, что вам рассказали СМИ?
@@StayGoldGunосновано на опыте всего мира
СМИ, я понимаю, почему вы так себя чувствуете. Они хотят, чтобы вы боялись оружия и чувствовали себя лучше, будучи беззащитными.
Those mags are dummy thicc
Ha ha, for sure!
Охлаждаемый затвором ствол, выстрел самовзводом, боковой а не верхний выброс гильз-лучше оружия для внезапного приминения нет. Единственно я бы заменил четырех рядный магазин двурядным, как более надежный
Это очень крутой дизайн! Вы правы, 2 ряд обычно надежнее
@@StayGoldGun когда нажимаешь курок, должен быть выстрел. В ближнем бою против вооруженного противника задержка недопустима, поэтому надежностьэто на первом месте и ей должны уступать самые продвинутые, но менее надёжные решения. Удачи
Конечно многое зависит от качества патронов
Возможно, именно поэтому он никогда не использовался в качестве полицейского или военного оружия.
had a chance to buy One for $275 in 2001. Went milled AK but instead but Dang It!
That was a good deal! Milled AK is another great choice!
WHY would you waste that limited, discontinued black talon ammo that is worth a fortune?
I didn't, I just used it to demonstrate loading. I used Blaser Brass in the scenes where I fired it.
Anyone who played Syphon Filter (Bend Studio) will recognize this as well.
Definitely! This isn't in that many games, but it's in some cool ones
And now I want to play N64 Goldeneye. That's still probably the closest a lot of us ever got to that weapon.
I want to play it again, too!
ガンスリンガーガール。
ペトルーシュカ。
まさにそうです！これはクールなものに現れます。
👍
🙏
Hotdogs, Horseshoes and Hand Grenades.
I run with this, the 'SturmPistole' and usually some sort of random pistol, any with the Luger grip profile is great for hipfire.
A real, functional Sturmpistole grenade\flare launcher just sold on GunBroker for $5,500.
☕🐝🇺🇸
That game has every cool firearm, it seems. That's amazing about that launcher!
My man is using black talon rounds.
If you wanna shoot the same rounds for cheaper (but without the black colored coating) try the Ranger/PDX1 self-defense rounds. The essentially are black talon rounds, remarketed and rebranded to appear more for personal defense court instead of a controversial name like black talon.
It would kill me to shoot these OG rounds. I don’t know how you could do it.
Don't worry, no black talons were harmed in the filming of this video. Thanks for the ammo suggestion, though!
U remember when unlocking this bihh ment something back on MMO FPS (I.E. CombatArms/A.V.A/GunzTheDuel/CS
I don't, but that sounds really cool
This is one of my favorite obscure firearms. The dope name, of course using it in games. But when I was working at an indoor range and store, I got to use one. And not a civilian but a real one.
I loved it. I only have 2 obscure firearms I want to use but don't know if I ever will. The VSS and Kiparis. I have used the civilian ones or clones. But I want the real deal at least once. Especially the VSS, the sound it makes is tied with the MPS SD. It gives me chills every time.
Great choices! The VSS is a grail gun for me, I don't know if I'll ever get to see one let alone own one, but it'd be amazing to get some shots on one. The Kiparis is super cool, too. I like your taste!
"NOT THE DEADLY BLACK TALON"😂😂😂😂 you'll shoot your eye out 😂😂😂😂
Ha ha! The reputation these got was so silly!
That thing is so fucking sick looking. Loved it ever since I first saw it in the original CoD Black Ops.
Idk how I like guns so much yet have never even touched one minus the shotgun I found in my great grandfather’s closet as a small child 😂 It was stamped 1907, wish I knew what happened to it. Bet it was something really interesting
Isn't it cool how these cool designs stick with us over the years! You don't have to touch them to appreciate them greatly! That does sound like it'd be a very interesting shotgun!
Got the pleasure to shoot a buddy's. Jammed on the 15th round. Also what an absolute flex, just loading Black Talons in there like they aint $2/round for "fancy HPs" lmaooo still want one of these because I love stupid guns
Ha ha! I love it. I agree sometimes the odd designs are the most desirable! I didn't fire the Black Talons, I'm not trying to flex that hard.
Rechamber in 38 super or 5.7, make barrel 3 to 6 inches longer, and a folding stock and you will have a great VIP protection weapon system!
Someone please hook that up!
I was designed with a folding stock, they're just rare in the US. B&T remade this, but kept it in 9mm
I remember seeing these quite frequently on Gunshow tables as a kid in the early 90’s, always thinking I was going to get one when I got old enough… Yeah, right 😂 unobtanium. Nice vintage box of BTs too. I remember seeing those on Gunshow tables until the libtardians went ballistic 😢
All this cool 80's and 90's stuff really dried up! It's too bad. The Black Talons are such a kind of funny story of media hysteria. All Winchester had to do to defuse it was rename them without the black finish.
Hell yeah. Basically a video game gun came to real life. Very cool in Goldeneye and Black Ops. Plenty of neat cool and interesting SMGs out there. Heard this was a good option for special forces out there that couldn't readily acquire or afford MP5s.
When I'd only seen it in games it felt like the games had come to life! Where did you hear about it's use by special forces groups? I've had a hard time finding any info on it outside of civilian use
@@StayGoldGun Yeah its a somewhat obscure weapon. Basically learned a bit about it from Wikipedia, the Spectre episode from Xbox Ahoy and Ian McCollum of Forgotten Weapons did a couple videos on it. Basically it was used briefly by the Swiss Army and Italian Special Forces. It was also used by the Lebanese military during the Lebanese Civil War and by the Kosovo Liberation Army and National Liberation Army during the Kosovo War. The pistol and semi-auto carbine variants were sold briefly in the U.S. and Europe. It is an item found occasionally on the European Black Market. So its description from the GoldenEye strategy guide about how its favored by terrorists, is somewhat accurate for its status of usage today. Unusual and out of production automatic weapons occasionally do end up arming terrorists after all.
That's true! Thanks for the great comment! Ian does some excellent videos with info you can't find anywhere else
too funny. I have a couple of cases of .45 black talon. given to me by my father in-law. been offered quite a bit for just a box..... also, glad to see it wasn't what you actually fired in the end. they are, for some reason, worth some money
That's an amazing investment you've got there. Because they got so unwarrantedly infamous and were only produced for a short time before rebranding, they've become very collectible
OMG trigger!
Pull to the wall, there is no wall, then it creeps, then it takes a walk, then it loosens up a bit, keep pulling, and around the bend, then just when you think something's wrong, Bang.
Ha ha. It's pretty wild. After some practice, I got used to just the physical spot it breaks. It would have been so nice if they'd added a second stage wall or something.
Aaaawwwww I was expecting full auto!!!!??? 😫😭🔫 that gun was disappointing!
Unfortunately none of these were imported before the 1986 ban on new machine guns. Sadly we're all likely going to see a lot fewer full auto's on youtube due to their recent policy changes
Actually such a cool gun
I love Italian designs. They often have so much style on top of functioning well
Oh yeah black talons for target practice..it's not like they stopped making those years ago and not like you can't just get target rounds 🤦♂️
Don't worry the Black Talon’s are safe to be loaded in another magazine in a future video
I didn't even realize for years that the Phantom from Goldeneye was the Spectre. I used to think it was a weird looking H&K gun.
I didn't know it was a real thing for a long time!
I always liked the sound when you charged the charging handle of this gun in BO1. For an all, stamped sheet metal gun, the Italians did a fine job with this one. Because of that, however, I assume it gets really hot to the touch after sustaining fire or being left out in the sunlight.
They did do a great job! It doesn't get that hot from firing, the barrel shroud really helps with that. From the sun, I'm not sure how bad it'd get, at least the fire control and grip are polymer so that'd stay cooler
I own a 40S&W variants. Unfortunately its getting new machined parts cause the hammer catch bolt broke and the rear plate latch snapped same day. Cant wait to take her home though.
That's awesome! That's a rarer variant! That scares me a little, though, because I love firing this, but I don't want to replace any parts
This firearm is gorgeous but I could finish the whole LOTR franchise with breaks before the trigger's action is done.
Ha ha! They added that double action pull as an added safety measure after decocking. The single action pull isn't bad
Love it! For all who don't know, quad stack 50 round mag!!!! Unique bad assery.😁👍🇦🇺
Thanks so much for watching and the great comment!
Could've been a good submachine gun, pretty lousy as a pistol, practically speaking.
Yeah for sure. It's definitely not something to get for practicality
Only Italians could make a magazine go from four stack all the way down to single feed and think that it's a good idea. I'm honestly surprised that it runs as well as it does but I guess that's what you get when you have decent engineering and plenty of testing
It's a pretty incredible design!
I admit it, I know the M4 Spectre by Girls Frontline.
I deserve your biggest insults
Ha ha! That's great! I don't judge you, however you come to know the Spectre is cool in my book. I play Pokémon Go, we all have our dark secrets. Ha ha.
,,It sure has a very looooong barrel. Just like my college roommate'' Doctor Edward Richtofen
You guys were old college buddies before Black Ops?
I thought those bullets were outlawed and not produced anymore 😮
They haven''t been produced in over 20 years, but they were never banned. Due to the false bad publicity they got, Winchester rebranded them as the Ranger SXT and removed the black lubalox coating, which was just to protect barrel life but got a lot of stories made up about it.
Remeber playing this game called project blackout/point blank as a kid and using this gun looked like a boxy staple gun
Right on, I didn't know it was in that game! It's not in that many
Where in God's name did you find a box of Black Talons?! They haven't been available since the mid 90s!!
I got them about 15 years ago. You don't see them too often anymore!
Pretty sweet gat. Lots going for it. 🇬🇧👍
Edit: sights look a bit 'Meccano parts' to me. What are the stock options other than a sling?
It's a fun one! The rear sight is just a plastic tab, basically the front sight, I think looks cool. It has a top folding stock that's really slick, but they're super rare.
Underrated in Black Ops
It's cool they included it
Who are bro's opps 💀💀
Ha ha. I'm trying to be like Switzerland, well armed and neutral.
Weird question... Are those quad to single stack mags really as easy to load as you make it look? Especially the last few rounds?
They're easy to loaf until the last 5 or 6, then it gets tough. Often, I just leave it at 47-48
You didn't shoot those black talons.... If you did... Straight to jail!!!
Ha ha, don't worry, they're safe to be loaded in another magazine on camera