Both Mustafa and Fareed are gems in their respective fields and this should speak volumes about the importance of immigrants. Looking at the immigrants as the “other” isn’t gonna to be good for the West at a time of global challenges and rise of China
I agree with U , but there are many other issues with illegal immigrants, refugees and the legal immigrants ( assimilation problems ).. Particularly with these refugees and illegal immigrants from Middle East, who keeps their religion and culture more than the national interests of countries where they are residing. They are so adamant and orthodox towards liberal values in free societies. A middle path of rational thinking with sense and logic must be adopted. It might be a slow transition but it shall happen to avoid destruction and suffering of society’s.
Good to see two intellectuals of Islamic background (one Syrian, one Indian) sitting and discussing worldly affairs at the forefront of humanity. I wish we could see that taking place at the Islamic world itself.
Thank you Fareed Zakaria for a facts and history of Industrial Revolution. Recent Revolutions are not just tech Revolutions that has changed social and economical structures, gender equity etc. Appreciate his observations, analysis and opinion 🙏🏻
Students what is too far? Made so close as can even washed thy FEET to be given New feet and wiping thy tears from your eyes! Fulfillment come here! Loving you without shame but with boldness!
The video link featuring Fareed Zakaria and Mustafa Suleyman provides insightful perspectives on AI and societal changes. However, it misses a crucial discussion on sustainability. Sustainability is an integral aspect of technological advancements, including AI. The absence of this topic in the video leaves the conversation incomplete. To enhance the comprehensiveness and relevance of the content, it is recommended to incorporate a segment discussing the environmental impact of AI technologies. This could include strategies for sustainable AI development, the energy consumption of AI systems, and how AI can contribute to sustainability solutions. This addition would provide a more holistic view of AI's role in the age of technological revolutions. .
Sir .. U mentioned Swedish president, Denmark president and France’s ( future president ) with a connection to fascist parties, but they are democratically elected and it’s a response from people for problems they are suffering like extremism, terrorism, crime against women, radicalism and fanaticism.
These are the folks who should dominate media and public discourse but unfortunately the hawks, extremists, racists and bigots have taken over civil discussions.
I think psychologically openness can scare people & become threatening and lead to a retreat from change. Indeed, openness can be threatening to existing places where people are comfortable. Shifts we are experiencing now can be very scary & lead to a retreat from massive new changes on the horizon. Adaptation can be threatening as new changes bring both promise & threat; but it also means retreating from reality. It makes threatens us with uncertainty. It is indeed a time of profound change & holds both promise & threats.
The Dutch certainly played a very important role, but don't forget the Scots in terms of changing political and social structures in relation to the industrial revolution, but, anyway, thanks for the great conversation ....
Interesting topic... revolutions... social, political, and technological. There is a danger of prognosticating based on historical perceptions. We tend to read history with less than '20/20 vision.' We end up as one-eyed prophets when applying the same perspective looking ahead. Hindsight bias and overconfidence... are the peril of ideology.
Interesting discussion but I was surprised no mention was made of the limitations the environmental challenges we face, will bring, the more we ignore them the bigger the catastrophes will become; and indeed how this has somehow become the responsibility of the left. Here In The Netherlands much land may have been "reclaimed" but is being poisoned by industrial farming. It is unsustainable but culturally we are not up to facing the challenge and vote in parties who preserve the status quo.
My ears perked and I thought about it. My Ancestor was English and he fought the English in the Revolutionary War. I know his rank, I know the land grant he was awarded. Really impressive. Fareed is wrong. It was not a rebellion against one king. Let's go back to the start of the Church of England. It's just one example.
I have much respect for Fareed, however the way he spoke about current abortion laws seemed a bit off. It seemed he was implying there were no current limits and if we would just make a Federal limit of 15 weeks then we could “move on” past this. Well I’m pretty sure that most states had some limits such as he suggested and it didn’t stop the conservatives. I believe they will not accept such a limit even if it is a federal law. They want no abortion. No abortion, no way, no how.
I was sharing some similar thoughts with a conservative friend, and he suggested that I speak to more people on the Right. We were having a discussion about the causes of Jan 6th. What would make patriotic Americans attack their own Capitol?
Humans are facing a spiritual problem. The final revolution will be a spiritual one. Who are we, what’s our purpose. How do we find fulfillment. This will accelerate as AI accelerates.
The role of Netherland in modern capitalism is still ignored, especially the essential role of New York as a Dutch colony before its surrender to British ships in 1664! The other untold story is the history of the Dutch colonists in South Africa besides the apartheid and race relations. And the rise of Swedish far-right conservatism was due to the enormous level of crime in the descendents of immigrants from Africa and Middle East, not globalisation.
At 19.12 Fareed is wrong. This is the second time I've heard him use this line. When US based commentators refer to developed overseas countries they mean Europe, the UK and Japan. Aust and NZ are rich countries with high immigration and similar demographic age structure to the USA and do not resemble Florida.
The flow from the southern border brings workers and voters, fine, but no criminals, drug traffickers or spies. Screening is imperative, is it happening? Is America safe?
I always respected Fareed although I May suggest to him quitting CNN to be himself make money from research than cater to corporate elites walking the fine line paycheck vs the right thing to say and do !
A great discussion Some small, but perhaps not minor issues. Trump’s corporation had / has many women executives and managers- maybe more than men. He is not interested in going back to the 1950s, perhaps the later 1980s through the pre-global economy era of job and manufacturing outsourcing - that more or less exploded in 2001. And back to a time before the Carter Administration caused birth of an Iran that later became a radical Muslim and imperialist nation. Like politicians on both sides, Trump has not learned how - at the nation-state level, to successfully compete economically with China - a country not involved in foreign military adventures.
How does Australia fit into this thesis? 50% of the population was born elsewhere or had one parent born elsewhere. Also women are fairly emancipated in Australia in a post-Christian culture.
There are reactionaries, true, but on the ground many just want to politely decline to adopt some of the changes which oppose their religion, culture, or in general their world view. It is undeniable that some of the changes in modern times have rightly corrected many undue violations against woman. However, the charges in the family structure have created at least some stress within the society. Can the higher rate of divorce in liberal societies compared to more traditional societies be an indicator? The pyramid family structure has been there for a long time. Some would argue that it served its purpose well to maintain the society in time when feudal or otherwise structures were too weak to provide many needed services. This obviously was at the expense of supression of woman's rights and in many cases oppression of them. Still a case for maintaining the pyramid structure, even in the context of the charged family structure, can be seen based on the argument that the critical role of a woman as a mother would constraint her to realize some of her abilities whereas a man would have less such. This sacrifice isn't artificial. Woman have done this throughout history, it is nature to them.
Hate yo be the nitpicker and i am sure Farees will enjoy this, but prior to the Industrial Revolution the Dutch harnessed wind power to drain lakes/reclaim land and build ships at a faster rate than kther European rivals. Living in NL for almost 3 years makes me believe that most people dont know how windy is here.
The uk gets called out because of brexit. the line about being the 51st state in the US in terms of income would equally apply to France, Germany and Italy
While I agree that a “revolution” requires a restructuring our socio-economic and political system, I don’t believe the driver of the revolution is cultural. The root cause of the cultural malaise on the right is that the US no longer has “infinite” natural resources built on extractive industries. Though the right wing extremists may not realize it, I wouldn’t matter if the US turned into Gilead, where white men are large and in charge. They would still face the fact that we shite in our nest. Until we clean that up and create a regenerative economy, that malaise is going to continue.
Invention of compus was in China, not in Holland. Fareed's views show a very politically biased understanding of history and the role of people in revolution .
I agree & that's very common among American main media, politicians etc. If they are not, they are never interviewed except in independent media channels.
Actually a lot of western history is selective in choosing origins - like the Greeks, etc. But since he has clarified that it is a book for a long plane journey, that’s ok. He may have meant it’s effects in European society as someone pointed out.
Alive yet not knowing dead among the dead. Wake up! From thy deep sleep! Nevertheless will find thee sleeping! Sleep away among the dead in front! Same measures will be given. In front of forgiveness, salvation, and the Redeemer.
YA KNOW? October 21, 2023 Remember when people used to intersperse their sentences with ‘like’ as in you know like that, ‘like’ I went to the store and ‘like’ there was no bread and then I went ‘like’ to the gas station and gas was so expensive ‘like’ too much you know? Well somehow ‘like’ his retreated into the past, and faded into obscurity, fallen to disuse. It has been replaced by a new word or two words. Those two words are ‘you know’. A great plethora of speakers use this lazy phrase to assume that the person they are, speaking to somehow, mysteriously intuits, unfathomably groks the meaning. grasps their content, intent, and thrust. Presenters of every dimension, comedians, talk show hosts, guests, podcast people all this ilk use this same crutch ‘you know’ this and ‘you know’ that. I propose that the next time you hear someone say ‘you know’ that you reply, “No I don’t know, I don’t understand, please embellish, kindly explain please clarify exactly what you were trying to tell me. I am not a mind reader and the words you speak don’t necessarily lead me to the correct conclusion that I have fully grasped what you’re trying to convey. Understand? Capeesh?, Comprendo? My goodness even that extremely eloquent Rachel Maddow says ‘you know’. To accompany her there is Stephen Colbert, Jimmy Fallon, Jimmy Kimmel, and Seth Meyers. They presumptively, confidently, assuredly assume that ‘you know’ will accomplish the understanding or the completion of their sentence. It won’t. So, all you a great speaker of the world, renounce delete, discontinue this lazy phrase! And, furthermore, it is anyway, not anyways!!!
Heirs Hosts shared "i" AM will say, remember WHO sitteth upon the lowest seat LASTS! For a SEASON! Above all reasons sitteth upon the lowest seat LASTS! Yes, same WHO sitteth upon the Clouds resting upon the NEW Permanent Foundation no one can uproot nor shaken but here to stay for good.
Fareed needs to be more generous to Modi, who has given a lot of rights to Muslim women in India.....taking away the Burkha in public places and not allowing triple talaq to Muslim men in India.
He explains so well, and is research is very good, and yet you have some people watching that don’t understand history or are unable to connect the dots.
Students what is too far? Made so close as can even washed thy FEET to be given New feet and wiping thy tears from your eyes! Fulfillment come here! Loving you without shame but with boldness!
Great to be listening to Fareed's wealth of wisdom and Mustafa Suleyman's thoughts on the social fabric ...
Both Mustafa and Fareed are gems in their respective fields and this should speak volumes about the importance of immigrants. Looking at the immigrants as the “other” isn’t gonna to be good for the West at a time of global challenges and rise of China
I agree with U , but there are many other issues with illegal immigrants, refugees and the legal immigrants ( assimilation problems ).. Particularly with these refugees and illegal immigrants from Middle East, who keeps their religion and culture more than the national interests of countries where they are residing. They are so adamant and orthodox towards liberal values in free societies. A middle path of rational thinking with sense and logic must be adopted. It might be a slow transition but it shall happen to avoid destruction and suffering of society’s.
@@Anantham09dude, you live in India. Why do you care? Lol
@@saimbhat6243 it’s me today , tomorrow YOU 😊😊
Another Muslim promoting the both
Good to see two intellectuals of Islamic background (one Syrian, one Indian) sitting and discussing worldly affairs at the forefront of humanity.
I wish we could see that taking place at the Islamic world itself.
Who is Turkish? Mustafa is Syrian
Thank you Fareed Zakaria for a wonderful historical conversation.
Thank you Fareed Zakaria for a facts and history of Industrial Revolution. Recent Revolutions are not just tech Revolutions that has changed social and economical structures, gender equity etc. Appreciate his observations, analysis and opinion 🙏🏻
A great conversation, can't wait to read the book!
Excellent discussion and very good topics you have brought in the eyes of the conscious world.
man you hit the nail on the head . the three Gs
I fealt that2 about it, I am sorry if that 👊🏼👊🏼👊🏼👊🏼👊🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼🙏🏼❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️😍👍🏼💋
Bravo Gentlemen, well done
I wish he was still the CEO of inflection Ai . Pi is the most revolutionary Ai on the market and it had the ability to shape the world,
Freed is a product of empire which is in decline, and he insists on continuity. However, owners of Global Capital is shifting toward South.
Students what is too far? Made so close as can even washed thy FEET to be given New feet and wiping thy tears from your eyes! Fulfillment come here! Loving you without shame but with boldness!
Great conversation.
The video link featuring Fareed Zakaria and Mustafa Suleyman provides insightful perspectives on AI and societal changes. However, it misses a crucial discussion on sustainability.
Sustainability is an integral aspect of technological advancements, including AI. The absence of this topic in the video leaves the conversation incomplete.
To enhance the comprehensiveness and relevance of the content, it is recommended to incorporate a segment discussing the environmental impact of AI technologies. This could include strategies for sustainable AI development, the energy consumption of AI systems, and how AI can contribute to sustainability solutions. This addition would provide a more holistic view of AI's role in the age of technological revolutions. .
On the 2020 platform segment. I think the party died. Just I have been saying for a couple odd years now. They need to go the way of the Whigs.
I hope the Left listens to Fareed and course corrects
All I received was Great Britain would be the 51st state in the USA in terms of income per capital behind missssippi.
Sir .. U mentioned Swedish president, Denmark president and France’s ( future president ) with a connection to fascist parties, but they are democratically elected and it’s a response from people for problems they are suffering like extremism, terrorism, crime against women, radicalism and fanaticism.
did we hear the pin drop when Modi was mentioned but not as much when Erdogan was equated? Where is Netanyahu in that list?
These are the folks who should dominate media and public discourse but unfortunately the hawks, extremists, racists and bigots have taken over civil discussions.
I think psychologically openness can scare people & become threatening and lead to a retreat from change. Indeed, openness can be threatening to existing places where people are comfortable. Shifts we are experiencing now can be very scary & lead to a retreat from massive new changes on the horizon. Adaptation can be threatening as new changes bring both promise & threat; but it also means retreating from reality. It makes threatens us with uncertainty. It is indeed a time of profound change & holds both promise & threats.
The Dutch certainly played a very important role, but don't forget the Scots in terms of changing political and social structures in relation to the industrial revolution, but, anyway, thanks for the great conversation ....
Great discussion guys
57:48 Couldn't agree with Fareed more on this part. The left/Democrats have gone too far on this identity politics thing.
Interesting topic... revolutions... social, political, and technological.
There is a danger of prognosticating based on historical perceptions.
We tend to read history with less than '20/20 vision.'
We end up as one-eyed prophets when applying the same perspective looking ahead.
Hindsight bias and overconfidence... are the peril of ideology.
These are set UNDERFOOT! Underfoot from all my shared "i" AM. Fareed remember #'s came from here!
The title of the book could be 'Age of Retrogession'.
Interesting discussion but I was surprised no mention was made of the limitations the environmental challenges we face, will bring, the more we ignore them the bigger the catastrophes will become; and indeed how this has somehow become the responsibility of the left.
Here In The Netherlands much land may have been "reclaimed" but is being poisoned by industrial farming. It is unsustainable but culturally we are not up to facing the challenge and vote in parties who preserve the status quo.
My ears perked and I thought about it. My Ancestor was English and he fought the English in the Revolutionary War. I know his rank, I know the land grant he was awarded. Really impressive. Fareed is wrong. It was not a rebellion against one king. Let's go back to the start of the Church of England. It's just one example.
I wonder why the Neolithic Revolution is not having it's recognition among those, which Fareed rightly considers as such.
maybe it's too far back for humanity to gain anything by analysing it?
I have much respect for Fareed, however the way he spoke about current abortion laws seemed a bit off. It seemed he was implying there were no current limits and if we would just make a Federal limit of 15 weeks then we could “move on” past this. Well I’m pretty sure that most states had some limits such as he suggested and it didn’t stop the conservatives. I believe they will not accept such a limit even if it is a federal law. They want no abortion. No abortion, no way, no how.
Why Mustafa? Why did you just abandon the users and the mission behind Pi to go join Microsoft?
My thoughts exactly well said. Pi is the most revolutionary product of our generation.
Need more GPUs :D
@@Karl-Asger He already had tens of thousands of GPUs already, that couldn't be it.
I was sharing some similar thoughts with a conservative friend, and he suggested that I speak to more people on the Right. We were having a discussion about the causes of Jan 6th. What would make patriotic Americans attack their own Capitol?
... they didn't 'attack'. They were goaded & directed IN by 'destabilizing operatives'. Wake up.
Humans are facing a spiritual problem. The final revolution will be a spiritual one. Who are we, what’s our purpose. How do we find fulfillment. This will accelerate as AI accelerates.
Without THEE! Even creation itself can't exist in front of thee!
The role of Netherland in modern capitalism is still ignored, especially the essential role of New York as a Dutch colony before its surrender to British ships in 1664! The other untold story is the history of the Dutch colonists in South Africa besides the apartheid and race relations. And the rise of Swedish far-right conservatism was due to the enormous level of crime in the descendents of immigrants from Africa and Middle East, not globalisation.
At 19.12 Fareed is wrong. This is the second time I've heard him use this line. When US based commentators refer to developed overseas countries they mean Europe, the UK and Japan. Aust and NZ are rich countries with high immigration and similar demographic age structure to the USA and do not resemble Florida.
The flow from the southern border brings workers and voters, fine, but no criminals, drug traffickers or spies. Screening is imperative, is it happening? Is America safe?
I always respected Fareed although I May suggest to him quitting CNN to be himself make money from research than cater to corporate elites walking the fine line paycheck vs the right thing to say and do !
A great discussion Some small, but perhaps not minor issues. Trump’s corporation had / has many women executives and managers- maybe more than men. He is not interested in going back to the 1950s, perhaps the later 1980s through the pre-global economy era of job and manufacturing outsourcing - that more or less exploded in 2001. And back to a time before the Carter Administration caused birth of an Iran that later became a radical Muslim and imperialist nation. Like politicians on both sides, Trump has not learned how - at the nation-state level, to successfully compete economically with China - a country not involved in foreign military adventures.
Where do you find unbiased journalism these days? Even AI can have bias programmed into it.
How does Australia fit into this thesis? 50% of the population was born elsewhere or had one parent born elsewhere. Also women are fairly emancipated in Australia in a post-Christian culture.
There are reactionaries, true, but on the ground many just want to politely decline to adopt some of the changes which oppose their religion, culture, or in general their world view. It is undeniable that some of the changes in modern times have rightly corrected many undue violations against woman. However, the charges in the family structure have created at least some stress within the society. Can the higher rate of divorce in liberal societies compared to more traditional societies be an indicator?
The pyramid family structure has been there for a long time. Some would argue that it served its purpose well to maintain the society in time when feudal or otherwise structures were too weak to provide many needed services. This obviously was at the expense of supression of woman's rights and in many cases oppression of them. Still a case for maintaining the pyramid structure, even in the context of the charged family structure, can be seen based on the argument that the critical role of a woman as a mother would constraint her to realize some of her abilities whereas a man would have less such. This sacrifice isn't artificial. Woman have done this throughout history, it is nature to them.
Fareed is a world-class thinker, and Americans HATE smart people.
Fareed remember even #'s can't exist in front!
we will have very good AI agents in 2 months, answering his comment on minute 45
Hate yo be the nitpicker and i am sure Farees will enjoy this, but prior to the Industrial Revolution the Dutch harnessed wind power to drain lakes/reclaim land and build ships at a faster rate than kther European rivals.
Living in NL for almost 3 years makes me believe that most people dont know how windy is here.
Who am I? Shared Feet resting upon my Footstool. Alive yet dead in front!
Whom come here! Who ye will say? Don't exist in front of thee! Why whom?
Why creation?
Fareed asked why? There's a #'s at the end of my Name? Keep watch!
Creation what is who am I? Shared Feet resting upon my Footstool?
I wonder why U.K. has become so poor.
Brexit
People not paying enough tax
The uk gets called out because of brexit. the line about being the 51st state in the US in terms of income would equally apply to France, Germany and Italy
#'s will bring to remembrance!
Fareed Zakaria used to think like Marie Antoniete (you don't have bread? eat cake instead). Now His penny has dropped!
I think Putin set the trend of revising the history starting from ancient days😂
Creation will say thy noises knows belongs? Indeed
While I agree that a “revolution” requires a restructuring our socio-economic and political system, I don’t believe the driver of the revolution is cultural. The root cause of the cultural malaise on the right is that the US no longer has “infinite” natural resources built on extractive industries. Though the right wing extremists may not realize it, I wouldn’t matter if the US turned into Gilead, where white men are large and in charge. They would still face the fact that we shite in our nest. Until we clean that up and create a regenerative economy, that malaise is going to continue.
One Muslim promoting another.........be careful of the agenda
Usually it's the tribe
19:50 increase in immigrants
i got his book , its very hard to read ... he rambles and is not a good writer
Invention of compus was in China, not in Holland. Fareed's views show a very politically biased understanding of history and the role of people in revolution .
I agree & that's very common among American main media, politicians etc. If they are not, they are never interviewed except in independent media channels.
You came to that conclusion simply cus he made a mistake on the origins of the compass? Talk about missing the forest for the trees…
Invented in Vietnam 🇻🇳
He didn't claim that the Dutch invented the compass. He referenced their use of the compass.
Actually a lot of western history is selective in choosing origins - like the Greeks, etc.
But since he has clarified that it is a book for a long plane journey, that’s ok.
He may have meant it’s effects in European society as someone pointed out.
Fareed is a product of nepotism. His takes are uninteresting shallow and reflect his ignorance.
Immigrant
Fareed why now put #'s? From before without #'s!
Alive yet not knowing dead among the dead. Wake up! From thy deep sleep! Nevertheless will find thee sleeping! Sleep away among the dead in front! Same measures will be given. In front of forgiveness, salvation, and the Redeemer.
That microaggression at the start of the talk was all you need to know why Microsoft AI isn't going well.
YA KNOW?
October 21, 2023
Remember when people used to intersperse their sentences with ‘like’ as in you know like that, ‘like’ I went to the store and ‘like’ there was no bread and then I went ‘like’ to the gas station and gas was so expensive ‘like’ too much you know?
Well somehow ‘like’ his retreated into the past, and faded into obscurity, fallen to disuse. It has been replaced by a new word or two words. Those two words are ‘you know’. A great plethora of speakers use this lazy phrase to assume that the person they are, speaking to somehow, mysteriously intuits, unfathomably groks the meaning. grasps their content, intent, and thrust. Presenters of every dimension, comedians, talk show hosts, guests, podcast people all this ilk use this same crutch ‘you know’ this and ‘you know’ that.
I propose that the next time you hear someone say ‘you know’ that you reply, “No I don’t know, I don’t understand, please embellish, kindly explain please clarify exactly what you were trying to tell me. I am not a mind reader and the words you speak don’t necessarily lead me to the correct conclusion that I have fully grasped what you’re trying to convey. Understand? Capeesh?, Comprendo?
My goodness even that extremely eloquent Rachel Maddow says ‘you know’. To accompany her there is Stephen Colbert, Jimmy Fallon, Jimmy Kimmel, and Seth Meyers. They presumptively, confidently, assuredly assume that ‘you know’ will accomplish the understanding or the completion of their sentence. It won’t.
So, all you a great speaker of the world, renounce delete, discontinue this lazy phrase!
And, furthermore, it is anyway, not anyways!!!
Fareed Zakaria is a loyal member of the swamp.
The thinnest cynicism .
Heirs Hosts shared "i" AM will say, remember WHO sitteth upon the lowest seat LASTS! For a SEASON! Above all reasons sitteth upon the lowest seat LASTS! Yes, same WHO sitteth upon the Clouds resting upon the NEW Permanent Foundation no one can uproot nor shaken but here to stay for good.
Fareed needs to be more generous to Modi, who has given a lot of rights to Muslim women in India.....taking away the Burkha in public places and not allowing triple talaq to Muslim men in India.
ROLF 😂😂😂😂
Really?
Lynching ? Bulldozers ?
Bhakt spotted
When did he took Burkha from public places?
@@bikramsen9952Hindus are lynched too
@@DataCrusade1999waitress shoesniffer spotted 😂😂
Now from Whom?
Creation what are all these NOISES in front? Keep watch!
This guy doesnt know shit about India or Modi
Seems Fareed is being prepared for something big - Democratic Party’s Vice President candidate! Or for the new cabinet after the election!
This just worked to show how little he actually knows about revolutions, it’s causes and effects.
In that sense, a great teacher. Woolgathering for elites and middle class dads. "You should be able to read it on a long plane ride "
He keeps narrative as simple and reasonable as possible. Or would you rather have long, abstract knowledge show-of which ends in nonsense?
He explains so well, and is research is very good, and yet you have some people watching that don’t understand history or are unable to connect the dots.
How much did he plagiarize in this book?
Zakaria the plagiarist supreme.
Students what is too far? Made so close as can even washed thy FEET to be given New feet and wiping thy tears from your eyes! Fulfillment come here! Loving you without shame but with boldness!