As a Greek I give my seal of approval for this very well researched and structured video, its on point on both negatives and positive and very well balanced non biased of how it is to live in Greece without any bs exaggeration. Love it , great job subscribed :)
Because as far as l know cost of living in crete is much lower than Cyprus .Also l think crete is the warmest and mildest in greece similar to Cyprus.As a cypriot we share the same culture and way of life l think l wont feel like a foreigner in crete
Thanks for the education. I'M 70 years old and have been thinking of retiring there as I believe I could live relatively comfortably there. I've always been fascinated with Greek history and mythology. I'm thinking I might be to old now and I'm terrible at learning languages. I've always dreamed of riding my motorcycle in the Peloponnese. Maybe one day soon, it's so beautiful there...thanks again.
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Hi Gary, I’m turning 65 and am seriously considering retiring in Greece. Trying to do as much research as I can. May I ask if you ever did get to Greece and where you’re from originally? All my grandparents were from the Peloponnese and I’m American. I know this is an old post but I hope you see this.
Thank you very much, this was a very informative video and coming from a person who is actually living in Greece makes it a true gem, my wife and i are planing on establishing our own business in Europe and Greece was one of the locations we were looking at, of course many factors have to be taken into consideration and one of them was the tax we have to pay and the school for our 2 children, i will be looking forward to your new videos and i hope we can get a more in detail video about how did you go about setting up your business there and how long did the process take etc etc. again i highly appreciate your effort and wish you all the best.
Hello! thanks for the comments, i'll be taking a look at how to set up a business and the 50% for 7 year tax break for new businesses in future videos, it is not a difficult process when you know how, but it is difficult to find out how to do it. Having a friendly lawyer and accountant help. I'll do some more research for a video as things are changing all the time and get some content out there soon. :-)
Hi Andy, congrats to you and your wife for making such a bold move and documenting your journey. I’m currently learning to speak Greek and am currently on an 8 week trip, which isn’t the same, but we’re looking at doing something similar to you in the future but more likely the northern Ionnina areas you mentioned.
@@LivinginGreece well I'm getting there slowly and you've been busy with other things to be fair, but I have to say it is fun and the Greek people are very helpful when learning.
I am retired and want to move to Crete. I am trying to improve my Greek so that I am fluent by the time I go. I don’t need to be near water but it would be nice. It all depends on how much my house sells for.
@@LivinginGreece I took Greek when in university and my teacher told me “it’s a pity you have such a problem with the alphabet, because you speak like a Greek woman” said with a heavy Greek accent. I am almost over my alphabet problem.
It was wonderful seeing the perspective of a foreigner, I'm very happy you enjoy our country. Hope you the best with Greek, it's honestly a very difficult language. To be a bit antagonistic, I'll just say Greece is heaven for the rich, but bottom of the barrel for its youth and middle class. Compared to most of Europe, at least.
whilst we are by no means rich we know we have it slightly easier here than some of the greek people. The minimum wage is incredably low and unemployoment is high. Taxation is high and complex so even if people do make a little money they have to pay tax on it. We can earn a slightly higher wage because we work online. But we do appreciate that great weather and fantastic food is of little consequence when you have only a little money. Hopefully now the reparations to the IMF and World Bank, EU and Germany are paid off, Greece can regain full control of its finances and help those at the bottom of the income scale.
Brilliant video. Such a wealth of information! Thank you so much. Looking forward to checking out the realestate agents, lawyer and all the other links you mentioned. Will you be adding them here?
@@LivinginGreece Hello :) Yes, I would love to move to Greece as soon as it makes financial sense. I would be really interested in knowing more about how you teach remotely if that is something you'd be happy to share in a future video :) Thanks again for the real life Greek immigrant experience.
Thanks Andy for this great video. The info was really useful. We are looking at buying our retirement home in Greece perhaps in 2023. Our friends retired 7 years ago and your advice exactly mirrors theirs. We have subscribed and look forward to your updates 👍
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just a small disagreement on what is said at the 34th minute: you can absolutely get a job in a multinational company in Athens if you don't speak a word of Greek... I know several people working for Philip Morris , Sanofi, Petroleum companies, Shipping, Brittish Pharmaceutical companies and other multinational businesses that never learnt Greek and have been here for more than 7 years.... also Hotels and tourism related businesses may hire you for a non-receptionist work without knowing Greek anywhere in the rural areas or islands
Hi George, that's pretty interesting, I know several people who have struggled to find work because they don't speak Greek. I guess it all depends on the type of work etc. Thanks for commenting and adding to the info for people :-)
I just saw your videos, I liked them very much. As a native born in Didima (currently living in Canada), I welcome you to Didima, I am grateful that you had choose to live in my home town! Hope to see you in the future. Best regards.
We found a house for 30000 euros. It seemed like a bargain at the time. Turned into a money pit but ohh well.... greece is a nice place to spend cash and time renovating 🤣
Hi Andy. Just found your channel and have enjoyed binge watching. I'm an expat but living in Spain (15 years). You may have already answered this in a video but I just wondered why you chose Greece as your new home. Might be worth another video topic. Thanks again for sharing and I look forward to following your journey. Regards Col.
Hi H, great question, there were many reasons and I think you are right, it needs a video! What this space in the next couple of weeks and I'll see what we can do to answer it!
Some times it is the only way to get so much info across quickly. Plus we don't have a drone for spectacular landscape shots and I look crap in a flowing dress so instagram is out :-)
I definitely agree with you about the healthcare part. I live in England but my partner is Greek so whenever we are there, we try to see various doctors. All you can get nowadays in the UK is a telephone consultation even with specialists and you still need to wait a long time.. My ultimate goal is also to move but my Greek partner seems to be the one scared to make the move 😄
Agreed! Whilst the Greek system is far from perfect, it is miles ahead of the UK now. I don't really know whats going on there, it's as if people are trying to get the NHS privatised! It can be daunting to make the move but once you have done it, you wonder why it was so much worry. Why not try it for say 6 months over the summer and see if you want to go back to UK? We rent our UK house out so will always have something to fall back on if needed.
Hullo there...I came across your informative video and I would like to thank you for the info....it is all true,I live in Athens and I am GREEK AUSTRALIAN....imagine coming from a sheep rearing town to a 5million city...talk about a culture shock.....Got married have 2 kids and now trying to get used to the WEIRD weather that w are having.....My sons" god father lives in Argos and it is lovely down there........so glad to have found you both,enjoy yourself and dont over do it on the wine..it can be a bit strong !!!!!
Hey! yes i can imagine moving from Aus to Athens must have been a real shock! I love Athens but it is a little too busy for me, I like the village life :-) We don't mind the crazy hot weather, before greece we lived in Cambodia for a few years so the hot seasons are about the same temperature. Argos area IS really loverly, we often head that way to go shopping and to see friends. We are always a little wary of the wine :-) I normally stick to beer :-)
One person mentioned about the price of electricity and that the Greeks aren’t making good use of solar panel or wind turbines. Is there any restrictions regarding the use of wind turbines or solar. Great in-depth advice
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So here's the question. If you earn say 250 euros a week online what percentage tax you pay assuming 50% discount for first 7 years? Is there any penalty if you quit after 7 years.?? How long do you pay in before you qualify for any kind of benefits???
Very informative. I have 17 years before I retire and I am looking to live in Greece .I know lots can happen in this time, however, the video was very helpful. If you can recommend any estate agents and links to them as I would want to rent for 6 months then buy when I have found the right location.
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I've heard English is very widely spoken in Greece. If you look at the English Proficiency Index for Greece, it's 14th out of 111 (Data from 2022). Do you still need to learn Greek language?
No, I've lived here 3 years and still cant speak it very well. Some others have lived here 15 years or more and cant speak a word. Saying that, life is difficult if you cant understand what anyone is saying, read labels for food, watch tv, or order a take away. Its much better to learn at least a little. We are slowly improving. 🐌
Excellent information 👌 thank you so much. I am planning to move to Creete from Canada 🇨🇦 but I have 2 kids one is 11 and the other is 7 we don't speak Greek and I am afraid how will kids continue with the school. Do you have any suggestions? Thanks a lot.
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Great, informative video. In our late 50's thinking of retiring to Greece from Australia, how much (ballpark), could we expect to pay for health insurance. Just an indication will do. Thanks guys.
It is difficult to say as we are part of the national health service here as we pay national insurance though our businesses. Inter- American does health cover but it depends on your age and what cover you want etc.
I really enjoy your videos. My wife and I are planning to move to Greece. We are thinking of the Pelopponese. We will like to rent first as we look for property to buy. Can you recommend a realtor or rental agency? Thank you
I really want to move to Greece because my mother said it was beautiful. Her side of the family come from Spartans, but I am just a little bit and I do not speak Greek. I am 53 years old after 15 years of truck driving I am just sick and tired of living in the US. I want to sell my house and buy something very small and simple but I understand work is very hard to get for expats. That really concerns me. I am in fantastic shape for my age and a fast learner. But I am still concerned about language barriers and employment opportunity.
Hi Ralph, thanks for watching, we are going to make a video about working as an expat in greece in the next month or so, so stay tuned. Yes it can be difficult to find work, it depends on your skill set and language level. We work online so can be based anywhere in the world so we are luck in that respect. I do know many expats who work here in all different kinds of jobs. Another thing to consider is that life here can be very much cheaper than at home so you might not need to earn as much or work as much. We try to work a 3 day week and manage to survive most of the time. This makes doing different or lower paid work easier. Wages are not very high here. I'll explain more in the video as there is a lot to think about.🙂
Hi Ralph. As an Irish person living in Spain, I think you are right to want to move from the United States to a European country like Greece - excellent culture and food, with success in life not being measured in money terms. Since you say you are a fast learner, and because you do not need a huge amount of money to have a nice quality of life in a country like Spain or Greece, here is my recommendation: learn to earn money online by teaching English online - US-based companies like Cambly do not require any particular qualifications, only the ability to speak English. You could try this right now in the United States; and, if it works out, you would then have the freedom to live anywhere in the world without needing any local work - so long as you have sufficient access to internet. Your Spartan heritage is something to be very proud of. Buena suerte from Spain.
👋 *** Hello , I'm so glad to subscribe your channel. Thank you very much for the generous information, it's really very very helpful. Actually I'm Greek but I don't live in Greece. I want to renew the residence of my husband but since November 2021 until now we didn't get it . We have a lawyer but she doesn't answer our phones. Maybe I can try to call the lawyer you wrote her name in the description box . If you know information about residences and nationality for a greek family member can you please make a video about that . Thank you again
Hey Roula, thanks for watching, i hope you get sorted with your husbands residency, we dont know much about it all but im sure our lawyer Zoe can help, give her a call. She is based in Nafplio, Argolida, peloponnese. We will make a video about getting residency when we have done more research. 😀
Great vid, but just to mention for anyone making a permanent move,you can take a vehicle, Euro 4 or newer without import tax, but you must obtain a certificate from the Greek embassy in your own country first.
Hi Sandie, thanks for watching and commenting, yes this is true! But some people we know have still had problems getting the cert from their embassy or when they have arrived in Greece with the vehicle. Apparently its not so easy as it should be. Saying that we also know someone who has done it without any issues at all.
@@LivinginGreece yes, I've heard same but we will be moving over to The Peloponnese in Nov, then aiming to get our campervan over early next year as we so want to travel around Greece in it. Prepared for lots of hoops! (and disappointment) 🙈🙄
I went the other way around! Left for Australia around 2011 and even after so many years i still think Greece is much better on beautiful places, food, entertainment industry and the kind of humour that we have that you won’t find easily in English ppl! Thank God i already knew English - you definitely don’t want to come here and start having thick accent or not being able to communicate. Can be a huge barrier for work and of course the racism that goes with it. Though Australia have millions of immigrants or 2nd and 3rd generation ppl, so it’s not like Greece which is more homogeneous and intact in that respect. Greeks are pretty much ok and they don’t have issues with Europeans certainly not from the UK. I still remember young British guys and girls showing their boobs and theirs arse in Crete outside clubs but i guess being young and drunk kinda have a certain effect on ppl when they go abroad. Living in a village is different from living in a big city like Athens, but then again if you enjoy ur time over there then it’s totally fine! Hope that one day i will come again and visit Greece, it’s been 12 years now and it feels weird not being able to visit the place where my family is.
Interesting perspective from a fellow immigrant. You are right, greeks are really fine with foreigners, even from countries with a dodgy past like Turkey and Germany. Which is more than can be said for the UK. 12 years is a long time to be away from the family. We hope you get home to see them soon!
Im Polish....have been living in UK for 13 years. Couple of years ago had enough and came back to Poland. Now because of the close war...im moving to Greece. To Zakyntos. Well....at least something new for next couple of years and dream life from British perspective
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Hi Andy + Tanya I just got back from holiday in Rhodes , very nice quite scenic! Anyway one thing you talked about in your vid was the price of electricity! ..I thought to myself while in Rhodes ,hang on all this sunlight they have here why don't they use solar energy surely this will help with electricity prices! Surely this is the way to go .. I saw some modern new builds and they had some tiny ones ! But in general none anywhere ! Doesn't make sense to me !
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That’s a good point , some of the coastal areas have a nice breeze blowing so one would think if a wind turbine or solar as you mentioned was set up would be the road to go but maybe there are restrictions!
Many houses have hot water heaters on the roofs with the tank on the side, Those are not solar pannels, only radiators heating the water. There are are many eolian farms (wind farms) on some high mountains and in the Greek islands. A lot more could be built, However, Those Solar pannels and wind farms are not so cute for a country dependent on 'post-card perfect' scenes !
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This is exactly the video I’ve been looking for! Honest, balanced and subjective! Well done. I turned 50 this year, a milestone. Keep thinking what, how do I want to spend rest of my life? In my opinion the U.K. is going down the pan! Work life balance so unbalanced, lack of community, work all week, exhausted at weekends and for what? Really??? So? What do I plan for the future? Change of environment, lifestyle, country, etc? 6 months a year, all permanent residency shift? Most definitely one of these. My experience of Greece is predominantly some of the Ionian islands a few times, plus Rhodes. All ready I love what I’ve experienced, albeit in holiday season. But, out of season, can it be worse than living in the U.K.? Errr? I very much doubt it! I’m heading to Zakynthos in a few weeks time for holiday, “thinking time.”. I’ll no doubt be watching this video whilst there! It’ll be a great help! 🙏
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As concerns in finding friends ... like in all kind of engines even with the social ones if you like to know what is inside or better take part you must first stop it then open it. A Greek “social-village” engine is self-stoped in the Bar/kafeneio, the church, in festivities or sport activities else you can stop such engine by inviting people to your house from time to time. Since you find difficult to learn Greek (you must instead persist and of course turn on the television more often for exercise) and you are not an orthodox as well as in your age sport activities is , maybe, not a valid option i recommend you to learn Backgammon (a Greek effortless national sport) and so spend more time in Kafeneio
Hi , great video and very informative. Thinking about retiring in Greece after recent visit from non-EU countries. Do you any information i.e investment requirements or anything like that?
if I am eligible for a Digital Nomad visa (in any EU countries). After living there a few years Can I apply for a Permanent residence there in Greece/ Italy/ Spain leading to Citizenship ???
I'm not absolutely certain but it must be possible as we know many expats who have done this. The actual process for brits is unclear after brexit but probably just a question of money.
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@@LivinginGreece I am very moved by foreigners, who choose to come and live in Greece.... Our beloved country has undoubtedly seen better days... Unfortunately globalist agendas are being followed here as well nowadays, which involve high cost of living, uncontrollable immigration and so on... Today Greece is not the paradise I grew up in.... (I am in my fifties now) Sadly...... But then again, it is still not a bad place to be... I send you my warmest greetings !!!
I really appreciated that you made this video, as well as your humor:) I'm 23 and plan on leaving the capitalist rat race and starting my adult life in Greece. This has been more than helpful, and I look forward to watching more! I feel like a lot of expats are moving to Greece for similar reasons, and it continues to please me that I'm finding relatable and decent individuals such as your self that are leading the way for the rest.
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Nice video. Lots of useful info. I lived myself in Athens, for four years. Thought that was until 2003, I can confirm that all what you said is true. Greece might not be 100% perfect, certainly, but there are worse places in the world to live at. However, there is something in which I do not totally agree, and it is about the Greek philoxenia issue.. Let me tell you first, that I love Greece deeply. No matter what. I lived in the capital, only , but I know that the Greek character is not always as friendly and good-humored as the youtubers insist on saying. Everybody highlights the Greek phylloxenia, as if it were something intrinsic to the Greek caracter. but let's not forget that the word xenophobia is also a greek word. Think about it. I don't mean to offend anyone, but things are the way they are. I am sure those that, those who think that Greece is the worst country in the world to live in, would have been grateful if someone had told them the "harsh truth" and not a sugar-coated version of things. Perhaps, they would have arrived to the country, more prepared for the cultural shock, once there. And... Don't you have any plans to learn Greek?
All very true, I'm certain that not all Greeks are friendly just as you say. I do think there are more friendly people in Greece than those that are openly hostile. I can only speak from our experience and say that the majority of people here are very friendly and welcoming. We probably wouldn't know those who aren't anyway. Learning greek is essential here and we are slowly learning a little but have plans to study properly when we have finished house renovations!
I any city you find that people are more distant but in the islands because it's a closed community actually everone knows each other they are more close and also the feeling of being safe. The same thing you find in the villages.
It depends how you act if you go to Greece with an attitude and arrogance thinking you are better than them then no they won't be friendly but saying that most GREEKS go by the famous FILOTIMO and are amazing people
I do not know about the amount of attitude or arrogance you find some people show when in Greece. Some tourist are as you say, some arem't. I know what I said. No theories. No "I think" or "in my opinion". I've worked in tourism there, for several years and know how they act, react and behave. I do not need to explain myself any longer. If you haven't run into those kinds of people, good for you. But that, doesn't make them invisible or non-existent. @@athenarockabilly6245
Were you working before you moved? If you answered this sorry. Teaching English for 700 Euros sounds like my kind of gig. I want to move from America, go to Greece as a student and seek a more permanent accommodation, if a good fit.
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Trust me as a Greek living in Australia. You can't live with 700 euro up in Greece. Just to rent lowest is 3 to 400 and plus bills and food transport. It is very hard . That is why everyone that could left.
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Hi.i speak you to greece to make a practice with greek language, Νομίζω οτι ξέχασες να πεις σε όποιον θεέι να έρθει στην Ελλάδα κάτι πολύ σημαντικό... ΔΕΝ ΠΕΡΝΆΜΕ ΤΟΝ ΔΡΌΜΟ ΑΜΑ ΔΕΝ ΚΟΙΤΆΞΟΥΜΕ ΔΕΞΙΆ ΚΑΙ ΑΡΙΣΤΕΡΆ! Μην ερθουν και σκοτωθούν! Οσο για φίλους... να πας σε καφενείο να πεις οτι είσαι Λίβερπουλ και μια ελληνική ομάδα.. π.χ Ολυμπιακός... μετα δεν θα σε αφήσουνε να φύγεις! επίσης, ξεκίνα τα πολιτικά... δεν χρειάζεται να ξέρεις... πες για τον Τσόρτσιλ... Και τελος μαθε τάβλι... σε 3 μέρες έχεις 50 φίλους
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I was born in Greece. I leave in Houston Texas for 42 years and i am going to retire there this summer! As for the language problem that you have. You need to mingle with the locals more and ask lots of questions.
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As a Greek I give my seal of approval for this very well researched and structured video, its on point on both negatives and positive and very well balanced non biased of how it is to live in Greece without any bs exaggeration. Love it , great job subscribed :)
Thanks Kilon, we try to say it how we find it, sometimes we are not always correct with things but are slowly learning more each day :-)
I am a retired cypriot,49,single English Teacher &Linguist whatis the cost of living comfotably in Crete
I am a retired,49,cypriot English Teacher &Linguist what is the cost of living comfortably in Crete l am single
@@tolgaucar-gl1vm why do you want to leave Cypress?
Because as far as l know cost of living in crete is much lower than Cyprus .Also l think crete is the warmest and mildest in greece similar to Cyprus.As a cypriot we share the same culture and way of life l think l wont feel like a foreigner in crete
Over all Greece is safe and stress free country . I love Greece🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷
This is true
Adore this country
we do too
Thanks for the education. I'M 70 years old and have been thinking of retiring there as I believe I could live relatively comfortably there. I've always been fascinated with Greek history and mythology. I'm thinking I might be to old now and I'm terrible at learning languages. I've always dreamed of riding my motorcycle in the Peloponnese. Maybe one day soon, it's so beautiful there...thanks again.
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Hi Gary, I’m turning 65 and am seriously considering retiring in Greece. Trying to do as much research as I can. May I ask if you ever did get to Greece and where you’re from originally? All my grandparents were from the Peloponnese and I’m American. I know this is an old post but I hope you see this.
@MXC-333 I never did make it. I wish I had when I turned 65. To many grandkids now to keep me here. Good luck
Thanks! Enjoy your grandkids!!
Thank you very much, this was a very informative video and coming from a person who is actually living in Greece makes it a true gem, my wife and i are planing on establishing our own business in Europe and Greece was one of the locations we were looking at, of course many factors have to be taken into consideration and one of them was the tax we have to pay and the school for our 2 children, i will be looking forward to your new videos and i hope we can get a more in detail video about how did you go about setting up your business there and how long did the process take etc etc. again i highly appreciate your effort and wish you all the best.
Hello! thanks for the comments, i'll be taking a look at how to set up a business and the 50% for 7 year tax break for new businesses in future videos, it is not a difficult process when you know how, but it is difficult to find out how to do it. Having a friendly lawyer and accountant help. I'll do some more research for a video as things are changing all the time and get some content out there soon. :-)
Thanks for making this video! You have inspired me to make the same video about Bulgaria!
Yes! Do it! It would be mega interesting to compare Bulgaria and Greece. If you do make a video let us know and we can share it on our channels.
Yeah Greece is not a perfect country but Greeks are the friendliest people in the whole of Europe ever ❤ Nice video
Correct on both counts but then where is perfect, and most greeks are superb people.
I really appreciated your thorough video and perspectives. I wish you many happy years enjoying Greece. Liked and subscribed!
Thank you so much :-)
Hi Andy, congrats to you and your wife for making such a bold move and documenting your journey. I’m currently learning to speak Greek and am currently on an 8 week trip, which isn’t the same, but we’re looking at doing something similar to you in the future but more likely the northern Ionnina areas you mentioned.
Hey thanks for watching, we hope you make the move smoothly, its not such a big jump really. Keep in touch 🙂
And learning greek is something i wish we had done before getting here so is a massive help.
@@LivinginGreece well I'm getting there slowly and you've been busy with other things to be fair, but I have to say it is fun and the Greek people are very helpful when learning.
I am retired and want to move to Crete. I am trying to improve my Greek so that I am fluent by the time I go. I don’t need to be near water but it would be nice. It all depends on how much my house sells for.
Yes, Crete is beautiful, don't worry too much about learning Greek, there will be plenty of opportunities when you get here!
@@LivinginGreece I took Greek when in university and my teacher told me “it’s a pity you have such a problem with the alphabet, because you speak like a Greek woman” said with a heavy Greek accent. I am almost over my alphabet problem.
you are doing better than I am, we speak only a few words and know we need to learn but it's just finding the time, we seem so busy all the time!
It was wonderful seeing the perspective of a foreigner, I'm very happy you enjoy our country. Hope you the best with Greek, it's honestly a very difficult language. To be a bit antagonistic, I'll just say Greece is heaven for the rich, but bottom of the barrel for its youth and middle class. Compared to most of Europe, at least.
whilst we are by no means rich we know we have it slightly easier here than some of the greek people. The minimum wage is incredably low and unemployoment is high. Taxation is high and complex so even if people do make a little money they have to pay tax on it. We can earn a slightly higher wage because we work online. But we do appreciate that great weather and fantastic food is of little consequence when you have only a little money. Hopefully now the reparations to the IMF and World Bank, EU and Germany are paid off, Greece can regain full control of its finances and help those at the bottom of the income scale.
Brilliant video. Such a wealth of information! Thank you so much. Looking forward to checking out the realestate agents, lawyer and all the other links you mentioned. Will you be adding them here?
Hi Daniel, thanks for your message, yes, I will add the links later today, I forgot! thanks for the reminder :-) Are you thinking of moving to Greece?
Links now added, I am waiting for our lawyer to confirm what details she wants me to include and I will update the comments as soon as possible.
Lawyer details now added
Great video... Thank you for doing that, it was extremely helpful.
Cheers James, Are you thinking of moving to Greece?
Thank you, very informative for someone thinking about moving to Greece.
Thanks Belinda, are you thinking of moving to Greece?
@@LivinginGreece Hello :)
Yes, I would love to move to Greece as soon as it makes financial sense. I would be really interested in knowing more about how you teach remotely if that is something you'd be happy to share in a future video :) Thanks again for the real life Greek immigrant experience.
Thanks Andy for this great video. The info was really useful. We are looking at buying our retirement home in Greece perhaps in 2023. Our friends retired 7 years ago and your advice exactly mirrors theirs. We have subscribed and look forward to your updates 👍
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just a small disagreement on what is said at the 34th minute: you can absolutely get a job in a multinational company in Athens if you don't speak a word of Greek... I know several people working for Philip Morris , Sanofi, Petroleum companies, Shipping, Brittish Pharmaceutical companies and other multinational businesses that never learnt Greek and have been here for more than 7 years.... also Hotels and tourism related businesses may hire you for a non-receptionist work without knowing Greek anywhere in the rural areas or islands
Hi George, that's pretty interesting, I know several people who have struggled to find work because they don't speak Greek. I guess it all depends on the type of work etc. Thanks for commenting and adding to the info for people :-)
I just saw your videos, I liked them very much. As a native born in Didima (currently living in Canada), I welcome you to Didima, I am grateful that you had choose to live in my home town! Hope to see you in the future. Best regards.
Thanks Peter. Pop in for a coffee if you are this way 🙂
Why are you living in Canada
Informative video! Really great!
Glad you liked it! Thanks for the kind comments
Thanks for your effort
Thank you for your kind words
My sister would rather live in South America. Nope. I must have lived in Greece in a previous life, because I am drawn here and only to Crete.
Yes Crete can be like that, when are you thinking of moving?
@@LivinginGreece in the spring, after I sell my house.
Thank you very much. Pretty useful information. What made you live in Greece?
We found a house for 30000 euros. It seemed like a bargain at the time. Turned into a money pit but ohh well.... greece is a nice place to spend cash and time renovating 🤣
Thanks for setting up chapters!
Yes its a long video with loads of content, i figured chapters might be useful 🤣
Check out the other videos on our channel, some aren't so long. 😀 also a big thanks for watching and commenting
This has been so informative thank you!
Thank you Alice 🙂 don't forget to check out the other comments as other people have added even more useful info. Also check out our other videos. 🙂
Fantastic video thank you!
Thank you so much :-)
Welcome my friend! We are are happy to have you here!
Thanks G, yes we love Greece and especially our village and the people. 😀
Hi Andy. Just found your channel and have enjoyed binge watching. I'm an expat but living in Spain (15 years). You may have already answered this in a video but I just wondered why you chose Greece as your new home. Might be worth another video topic. Thanks again for sharing and I look forward to following your journey. Regards Col.
Hi H, great question, there were many reasons and I think you are right, it needs a video! What this space in the next couple of weeks and I'll see what we can do to answer it!
My father's an engineer: I like a solid info-dump!
Some times it is the only way to get so much info across quickly. Plus we don't have a drone for spectacular landscape shots and I look crap in a flowing dress so instagram is out :-)
I definitely agree with you about the healthcare part. I live in England but my partner is Greek so whenever we are there, we try to see various doctors. All you can get nowadays in the UK is a telephone consultation even with specialists and you still need to wait a long time.. My ultimate goal is also to move but my Greek partner seems to be the one scared to make the move 😄
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@@matthewandrews2290 ? 🤔
Agreed! Whilst the Greek system is far from perfect, it is miles ahead of the UK now. I don't really know whats going on there, it's as if people are trying to get the NHS privatised! It can be daunting to make the move but once you have done it, you wonder why it was so much worry. Why not try it for say 6 months over the summer and see if you want to go back to UK? We rent our UK house out so will always have something to fall back on if needed.
Hullo there...I came across your informative video and I would like to thank you for the info....it is all true,I live in Athens and I am GREEK AUSTRALIAN....imagine coming from a sheep rearing town to a 5million city...talk about a culture shock.....Got married have 2 kids and now trying to get used to the WEIRD weather that w are having.....My sons" god father lives in Argos and it is lovely down there........so glad to have found you both,enjoy yourself and dont over do it on the wine..it can be a bit strong !!!!!
Hey! yes i can imagine moving from Aus to Athens must have been a real shock! I love Athens but it is a little too busy for me, I like the village life :-) We don't mind the crazy hot weather, before greece we lived in Cambodia for a few years so the hot seasons are about the same temperature. Argos area IS really loverly, we often head that way to go shopping and to see friends. We are always a little wary of the wine :-) I normally stick to beer :-)
One person mentioned about the price of electricity and that the Greeks aren’t making good use of solar panel or wind turbines.
Is there any restrictions regarding the use of wind turbines or solar.
Great in-depth advice
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So here's the question. If you earn say 250 euros a week online what percentage tax you pay assuming 50% discount for first 7 years? Is there any penalty if you quit after 7 years.?? How long do you pay in before you qualify for any kind of benefits???
Very informative. I have 17 years before I retire and I am looking to live in Greece .I know lots can happen in this time, however, the video was very helpful. If you can recommend any estate agents and links to them as I would want to rent for 6 months then buy when I have found the right location.
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From hearing you talk. We like to live where you live 😊 can you recommend towns or your town in Greece. Thank you
You can buy our house in didyma if you want 🤣👍🙂 120k euros.
Lolz , TY ever so , tink could live like a Goddess in Greek islands 😊
So true!
Excellent. Thank you so much for the info.
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I've heard English is very widely spoken in Greece. If you look at the English Proficiency Index for Greece, it's 14th out of 111 (Data from 2022). Do you still need to learn Greek language?
No, I've lived here 3 years and still cant speak it very well. Some others have lived here 15 years or more and cant speak a word. Saying that, life is difficult if you cant understand what anyone is saying, read labels for food, watch tv, or order a take away. Its much better to learn at least a little. We are slowly improving. 🐌
Excellent information 👌 thank you so much. I am planning to move to Creete from Canada 🇨🇦 but I have 2 kids one is 11 and the other is 7 we don't speak Greek and I am afraid how will kids continue with the school. Do you have any suggestions?
Thanks a lot.
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Great, informative video. In our late 50's thinking of retiring to Greece from Australia, how much (ballpark), could we expect to pay for health insurance. Just an indication will do. Thanks guys.
It is difficult to say as we are part of the national health service here as we pay national insurance though our businesses. Inter- American does health cover but it depends on your age and what cover you want etc.
As a Greek living in Australia I would say don't.
@@Theo13136 could you provide some perspective on that? Thanks.
I really enjoy your videos. My wife and I are planning to move to Greece. We are thinking of the Pelopponese. We will like to rent first as we look for property to buy. Can you recommend a realtor or rental agency?
Thank you
I really want to move to Greece because my mother said it was beautiful. Her side of the family come from Spartans, but I am just a little bit and I do not speak Greek. I am 53 years old after 15 years of truck driving I am just sick and tired of living in the US. I want to sell my house and buy something very small and simple but I understand work is very hard to get for expats. That really concerns me. I am in fantastic shape for my age and a fast learner. But I am still concerned about language barriers and employment opportunity.
Hi Ralph, thanks for watching, we are going to make a video about working as an expat in greece in the next month or so, so stay tuned. Yes it can be difficult to find work, it depends on your skill set and language level. We work online so can be based anywhere in the world so we are luck in that respect. I do know many expats who work here in all different kinds of jobs. Another thing to consider is that life here can be very much cheaper than at home so you might not need to earn as much or work as much. We try to work a 3 day week and manage to survive most of the time. This makes doing different or lower paid work easier. Wages are not very high here. I'll explain more in the video as there is a lot to think about.🙂
Hi Ralph. As an Irish person living in Spain, I think you are right to want to move from the United States to a European country like Greece - excellent culture and food, with success in life not being measured in money terms. Since you say you are a fast learner, and because you do not need a huge amount of money to have a nice quality of life in a country like Spain or Greece, here is my recommendation: learn to earn money online by teaching English online - US-based companies like Cambly do not require any particular qualifications, only the ability to speak English. You could try this right now in the United States; and, if it works out, you would then have the freedom to live anywhere in the world without needing any local work - so long as you have sufficient access to internet. Your Spartan heritage is something to be very proud of. Buena suerte from Spain.
👋 *** Hello , I'm so glad to subscribe your channel. Thank you very much for the generous information, it's really very very helpful. Actually I'm Greek but I don't live in Greece. I want to renew the residence of my husband but since November 2021 until now we didn't get it . We have a lawyer but she doesn't answer our phones. Maybe I can try to call the lawyer you wrote her name in the description box . If you know information about residences and nationality for a greek family member can you please make a video about that . Thank you again
Hey Roula, thanks for watching, i hope you get sorted with your husbands residency, we dont know much about it all but im sure our lawyer Zoe can help, give her a call. She is based in Nafplio, Argolida, peloponnese. We will make a video about getting residency when we have done more research. 😀
Great vid, but just to mention for anyone making a permanent move,you can take a vehicle, Euro 4 or newer without import tax, but you must obtain a certificate from the Greek embassy in your own country first.
Hi Sandie, thanks for watching and commenting, yes this is true! But some people we know have still had problems getting the cert from their embassy or when they have arrived in Greece with the vehicle. Apparently its not so easy as it should be. Saying that we also know someone who has done it without any issues at all.
@@LivinginGreece yes, I've heard same but we will be moving over to The Peloponnese in Nov, then aiming to get our campervan over early next year as we so want to travel around Greece in it. Prepared for lots of hoops! (and disappointment) 🙈🙄
I went the other way around! Left for Australia around 2011 and even after so many years i still think Greece is much better on beautiful places, food, entertainment industry and the kind of humour that we have that you won’t find easily in English ppl! Thank God i already knew English - you definitely don’t want to come here and start having thick accent or not being able to communicate. Can be a huge barrier for work and of course the racism that goes with it. Though Australia have millions of immigrants or 2nd and 3rd generation ppl, so it’s not like Greece which is more homogeneous and intact in that respect. Greeks are pretty much ok and they don’t have issues with Europeans certainly not from the UK. I still remember young British guys and girls showing their boobs and theirs arse in Crete outside clubs but i guess being young and drunk kinda have a certain effect on ppl when they go abroad. Living in a village is different from living in a big city like Athens, but then again if you enjoy ur time over there then it’s totally fine! Hope that one day i will come again and visit Greece, it’s been 12 years now and it feels weird not being able to visit the place where my family is.
Interesting perspective from a fellow immigrant. You are right, greeks are really fine with foreigners, even from countries with a dodgy past like Turkey and Germany. Which is more than can be said for the UK. 12 years is a long time to be away from the family. We hope you get home to see them soon!
Why did you leave Greece
We haven't! We are still here
Im Polish....have been living in UK for 13 years. Couple of years ago had enough and came back to Poland. Now because of the close war...im moving to Greece. To Zakyntos. Well....at least something new for next couple of years and dream life from British perspective
I really enjoy watching your video!
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Hey Andy, Jethro here, cheers for this pal. Looking to leave as well.
Hi Andy + Tanya I just got back from holiday in Rhodes , very nice quite scenic! Anyway one thing you talked about in your vid was the price of electricity! ..I thought to myself while in Rhodes ,hang on all this sunlight they have here why don't they use solar energy surely this will help with electricity prices! Surely this is the way to go .. I saw some modern new builds and they had some tiny ones ! But in general none anywhere ! Doesn't make sense to me !
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That’s a good point , some of the coastal areas have a nice breeze blowing so one would think if a wind turbine or solar as you mentioned was set up would be the road to go but maybe there are restrictions!
Many houses have hot water heaters on the roofs with the tank on the side, Those are not solar pannels, only radiators heating the water.
There are are many eolian farms (wind farms) on some high mountains and in the Greek islands.
A lot more could be built, However, Those Solar pannels and wind farms are not so cute for a country dependent on 'post-card perfect' scenes !
What made you select Greece and not Portugal, Spain or Italy as most of the UK people select ?
Do you have a video of your 30000 euro house? I'd love to see what that can get you.
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This is exactly the video I’ve been looking for! Honest, balanced and subjective! Well done. I turned 50 this year, a milestone. Keep thinking what, how do I want to spend rest of my life? In my opinion the U.K. is going down the pan! Work life balance so unbalanced, lack of community, work all week, exhausted at weekends and for what? Really??? So? What do I plan for the future? Change of environment, lifestyle, country, etc? 6 months a year, all permanent residency shift? Most definitely one of these. My experience of Greece is predominantly some of the Ionian islands a few times, plus Rhodes. All ready I love what I’ve experienced, albeit in holiday season. But, out of season, can it be worse than living in the U.K.? Errr? I very much doubt it! I’m heading to Zakynthos in a few weeks time for holiday, “thinking time.”. I’ll no doubt be watching this video whilst there! It’ll be a great help! 🙏
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I don't blame you I feel the same and I'm looking at Greece too love it there
Doing the same in October. Been twice already this year. Me time to ponder the next chapter.
I'd like to know how you got on?
Great video. Perhaps you could use a map a bit newer than the one from 1971. ;)
Nah i like that map, it's an antique 🤣
Nice, thank you!
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I am a retired,49,cypriot English Teacher &Linguist what is the cost of living comfortably in Crete l am single
Around 1500 euros a month for a care free life
Great Channel.
Thank you for watching and commenting :-)
Very Good video
Thanks matey 🙂
As concerns in finding friends ... like in all kind of engines even with the social ones if you like to know what is inside or better take part you must first stop it then open it. A Greek “social-village” engine is self-stoped in the Bar/kafeneio, the church, in festivities or sport activities else you can stop such engine by inviting people to your house from time to time.
Since you find difficult to learn Greek (you must instead persist and of course turn on the television more often for exercise) and you are not an orthodox as well as in your age sport activities is , maybe, not a valid option i recommend you to learn Backgammon (a Greek effortless national sport) and so spend more time in Kafeneio
Yes! All of this is so true! We try to go out to the cafe at least twice a week to chat with people. We are slowly making friends. 🙂
Hi , great video and very informative. Thinking about retiring in Greece after recent visit from non-EU countries. Do you any information i.e investment requirements or anything like that?
Check out our other videos about moving to greece. Theres a load of info there and also on google. You might need to goldern visa it for 250,000 euros
Is there a place in Greece with high English population except Corfu?
Thanks
Welcome
if I am eligible for a Digital Nomad visa (in any EU countries). After living there a few years Can I apply for a Permanent residence there in Greece/ Italy/ Spain leading to Citizenship ???
I'm not absolutely certain but it must be possible as we know many expats who have done this. The actual process for brits is unclear after brexit but probably just a question of money.
thank you so much
You're welcome!
My compliments. Great video. I do think communicating in English is not a big problem
Thankyou for thud video
Greek television is rubbish... Even if you don't speak greek ,you got that right.... Congratulations for the appraisal.....
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@@LivinginGreece I am very moved by foreigners, who choose to come and live in Greece.... Our beloved country has undoubtedly seen better days... Unfortunately globalist agendas are being followed here as well nowadays, which involve high cost of living, uncontrollable immigration and so on...
Today Greece is not the paradise I grew up in.... (I am in my fifties now) Sadly...... But then again, it is still not a bad place to be...
I send you my warmest greetings !!!
I really appreciated that you made this video, as well as your humor:) I'm 23 and plan on leaving the capitalist rat race and starting my adult life in Greece. This has been more than helpful, and I look forward to watching more! I feel like a lot of expats are moving to Greece for similar reasons, and it continues to please me that I'm finding relatable and decent individuals such as your self that are leading the way for the rest.
Well done!
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Can you recommend a good accountant to ask about this 50% tax reduction?
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Nice video. Lots of useful info. I lived myself in Athens, for four years. Thought that was until 2003, I can confirm that all what you said is true.
Greece might not be 100% perfect, certainly, but there are worse places in the world to live at.
However, there is something in which I do not totally agree, and it is about the Greek philoxenia issue..
Let me tell you first, that I love Greece deeply. No matter what.
I lived in the capital, only , but I know that the Greek character is not always as friendly and good-humored as the youtubers insist on saying.
Everybody highlights the Greek phylloxenia, as if it were something intrinsic to the Greek caracter. but let's not forget that the word xenophobia is also a greek word. Think about it.
I don't mean to offend anyone, but things are the way they are.
I am sure those that, those who think that Greece is the worst country in the world to live in, would have been grateful if someone had told them the "harsh truth" and not a sugar-coated version of things.
Perhaps, they would have arrived to the country, more prepared for the cultural shock, once there.
And... Don't you have any plans to learn Greek?
All very true, I'm certain that not all Greeks are friendly just as you say. I do think there are more friendly people in Greece than those that are openly hostile. I can only speak from our experience and say that the majority of people here are very friendly and welcoming. We probably wouldn't know those who aren't anyway. Learning greek is essential here and we are slowly learning a little but have plans to study properly when we have finished house renovations!
I any city you find that people are more distant but in the islands because it's a closed community actually everone knows each other they are more close and also the feeling of being safe. The same thing you find in the villages.
It depends how you act if you go to Greece with an attitude and arrogance thinking you are better than them then no they won't be friendly but saying that most GREEKS go by the famous FILOTIMO and are amazing people
I do not know about the amount of attitude or arrogance you find some people show when in Greece. Some tourist are as you say, some arem't.
I know what I said. No theories. No "I think" or "in my opinion". I've worked in tourism there, for several years and know how they act, react and behave.
I do not need to explain myself any longer. If you haven't run into those kinds of people, good for you. But that, doesn't make them invisible or non-existent. @@athenarockabilly6245
Thanks!
Thank you so much, Peter. Didyma and the people here are wonderful.
Knossos or Heraklion are my choices.
Yes Heraklion would be really nice!
Were you working before you moved? If you answered this sorry. Teaching English for 700 Euros sounds like my kind of gig. I want to move from America, go to Greece as a student and seek a more permanent accommodation, if a good fit.
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Trust me as a Greek living in Australia. You can't live with 700 euro up in Greece. Just to rent lowest is 3 to 400 and plus bills and food transport. It is very hard . That is why everyone that could left.
Quite accurate.
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I like Greek food dominated with sea food
Yep that also works for me 🤣
You look a bit like bubbles from one American comedy show. Thank you for your help.
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The Greeks especially young people in Athens most of them speak English . When I compare with Spanish people
Yeah there are lots of English speakers in athens, I've not spent much time in spain so can't compare.
You have one more neighbour on North, you forgot to mention.
4:34 hahaha i like ur map showing yugoslavia, good times when things was alot easier xd
Yeah 😀 old school maps rule 🤣 and its true things were a lot easier back then!
I speak Greek, television is rubbish for me as well.
🤣 I'm glad its not just us then...
Yeah I think the language is a massive issue. It is an issue here in Spain but Spanish is pretty easy to learn if you make just a little effort.
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Hi.i speak you to greece to make a practice with greek language,
Νομίζω οτι ξέχασες να πεις σε όποιον θεέι να έρθει στην Ελλάδα κάτι πολύ σημαντικό... ΔΕΝ ΠΕΡΝΆΜΕ ΤΟΝ ΔΡΌΜΟ ΑΜΑ ΔΕΝ ΚΟΙΤΆΞΟΥΜΕ ΔΕΞΙΆ ΚΑΙ ΑΡΙΣΤΕΡΆ!
Μην ερθουν και σκοτωθούν!
Οσο για φίλους... να πας σε καφενείο να πεις οτι είσαι Λίβερπουλ και μια ελληνική ομάδα.. π.χ Ολυμπιακός... μετα δεν θα σε αφήσουνε να φύγεις! επίσης, ξεκίνα τα πολιτικά... δεν χρειάζεται να ξέρεις... πες για τον Τσόρτσιλ...
Και τελος μαθε τάβλι... σε 3 μέρες έχεις 50 φίλους
Thanks 😀 I'm now fluent 🤣
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oh no! why the tears? (apart from the fact you watched one of our videos...)
Izmedju bg i al postoji prostor velicine djane tvoje keve
I don't want to get Greeked I'm more into women.
I prefer really happy people. 😊
I want to buy a new hybrid car when I get there.
Yes, good idea, although cars are really expensive in Greece due to import duty, check out some websites to see some prices!
Από το 39 λεπτό και μετά, οι υπότιτλοι της αυτόματης μετάφρασης εμφανίζονται στα Αγγλικά ...
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I was born in Greece. I leave in Houston Texas for 42 years and i am going to retire there this summer! As for the language problem that you have. You need to mingle with the locals more and ask lots of questions.
Hey there! We have tried to answer as many questions and comments as possible in our latest Q&A3 video. Check it out. If we have not answered your comments then repost it with "SECOND TIME" at the start and we will endevour to answer it in the next Q&A vid. Big Love, Andy and Tanya.