Hmmmm..it won't make any difference... it is a new generation of warfare.. it would just be another grave stone.. the logical military doctrine is all about.
Croatia sent old Mi8 helicopters to Ukraine. Believe me, every single helicopter sent by Croatia has seen more action, harsh conditions and incidents than the entire Australian squadron of helicopters. Of course, they also participated in war operations. I think Australians have a thick comfort zone that they never leave and it is very difficult for them to understand how a nation that is fighting for its survival really feels. You think the Ukrainians don't have incidents with their existing helicopters far from the front line? So send them Taipans and in this condition they probably have a better safety record compared to soviet type helicopters.
I agree, give the Hellicopters to Ukrane. They take responsibility . What we dont want here is new hicups. ! There are problems in the US. We need to lead. Politicians reverse decision. Stand alone , be proud Australia.
What is the crash record??? In the 80s Black Hawks were crashing all over the place. Quality of maintenance was a major problem. Some units had not issues because of their mechanics.
Taipans can be flown remotely. Australian leaders, not Australians, obviously aren’t sending them because they agree with Putin. No other reason is plausible. (Unless they have already sent them and this is a decoy)
@@rolandnelson6722 lots of people think countries should fight there own battles. Ukraines and Russia's goes back to 1854. this is nothing new. just different names different people BUT still the same area of land in a war.
The Government is supplying millions of dollars of equipment to the Ukraine. Spend the money to resurrect the Taipans into service for the Ukraine. Not rocket science either spend the money to give them helicopters they see a need for.
Albanese knows these Helicopters are not going to be used here but what is the harm in donating the to Ukraine ? Is Albo appeasing Vladimir Putin ? Is he afraid of ruffling Russian feathers or poking the bear ? Beginning to be rather disappointed in Albo and Labor !!
This country is at war, people are dying daily in various, ugly ways and the Australian government is worried about the safety standards of the helicopters requested by Ukraine. This whole farce just highlights the unworldly cocoon our career politicians live in, completely divorced from the real world. I am sure the Ukrainians are more than happy to take responsibility for the operations of the aircraft and any negative outcomes that may occur. Also, they are a European built machines and I am quite sure there are plentiful supplies of spare parts there, along with the expertise on how to maintain them.
It’s Australia, we probably only have 12 of them anyways lol when the USA left all the black Hawkes in the Middle East the taliban were quick to repair them so I’m sure that even with missing bits these helis would be a great help to Ukraine.
18 Blackhawks were seized from the Afghan National Army after the withdrawal of coalition troops from Afghanistan,only 6 were operational,and less than 6 are now believed to be airworthy. You 45 helicopters siting in storage in Townsville.
The fact that these are not safe and a risk, is a reasonable excuse not to send them. The heading of this piece makes it sound like Australia don't sympathise with Ukraine.
Which government is going to pay to ship them...6000 miles or so into the Black Sea where the freighter ship may come under attack from land based Russian cruise or other missiles? Look, it would be better to ship a dozen of the best left intact for the Ukrainians to decide. Can a smaller group be sent? Just so they can maybe fly 8 or 9 on a regular basis and use the other three for parts?
Lack of backbone these helicopters could have saved many lives ferrying insured soldiers back to medical facilities, I do hope the Labor Government can look back at the Ukraine war and say. We helped Putin by not giving our redundant helicopters to Ukraine, something to be proud of Not.
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Is there anything less credible than statements by politicians and ADF leaders (present and past)?
Absolutely shocking,usually Australia’s gutsy geopolitically
-we Americans respect Australia’s armed forces,they stood by us in Bush’s pointless wars,we honour their sacrifice
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Hmmmm..it won't make any difference... it is a new generation of warfare.. it would just be another grave stone..
the logical military doctrine is all about.
Give them the helicopters...there not safe😅😅😅 it's a war you fools.
Croatia sent old Mi8 helicopters to Ukraine. Believe me, every single helicopter sent by Croatia has seen more action, harsh conditions and incidents than the entire Australian squadron of helicopters. Of course, they also participated in war operations. I think Australians have a thick comfort zone that they never leave and it is very difficult for them to understand how a nation that is fighting for its survival really feels. You think the Ukrainians don't have incidents with their existing helicopters far from the front line? So send them Taipans and in this condition they probably have a better safety record compared to soviet type helicopters.
Just donate to Ukraine. They can fix themselves. Please Australian Government must reversed their decisions
What has Ukraine ever dud for Australia?
What has Ukraine ever dud for Australia?
@@Ledza_23What dud you mean?
Send them
I agree, give the Hellicopters to Ukrane. They take responsibility . What we dont want here is new hicups. ! There are problems in the US. We need to lead. Politicians reverse decision. Stand alone , be proud Australia.
Sad that Australia cannot gift these Helicopters to Ukraine at no cost war is a bigger risk than the Taipan!
What is the crash record??? In the 80s Black Hawks were crashing all over the place. Quality of maintenance was a major problem. Some units had not issues because of their mechanics.
Why did Australia pay good taxpayer money on unsafe helicopters in the first place?
as an Australian I am ashamed!!
Those helicopters are very good even more than the old Russian helicopter that Ukraine used now
It’s such an urgent need that a history of 1 falling is an acceptable risk.
Can this man stop begging?
A missed opportunity by Australia, seemingly pointless since we're decommissioning them anyway.
Ukraine is very smart and they can reassemble them no problem. They build drones same as helicopters but with more propellers.
Taipans can be flown remotely.
Australian leaders, not Australians, obviously aren’t sending them because they agree with Putin. No other reason is plausible.
(Unless they have already sent them and this is a decoy)
@@rolandnelson6722 lots of people think countries should fight there own battles. Ukraines and Russia's goes back to 1854. this is nothing new. just different names different people BUT still the same area of land in a war.
😂 Mate,a helicopter is just a bit more complicated than a drone..
Let Ukraine be the judge.
Why WONT they help? Did the same thing with th F 18's the PUBLIC needs to know what is going on?
The Government is supplying millions of dollars of equipment to the Ukraine. Spend the money to resurrect the Taipans into service for the Ukraine. Not rocket science either spend the money to give them helicopters they see a need for.
Give the bluger nothing
War is not safe, Ukraine understands this! Send the choppers.
Australia is wrong, give the helicopter to Ukraine.
Cmon Aussie what happened to the can do attitude je-sus!!
Australia Albo Labor party pathetic
Russian sources claimed that there was 3 persons in the helicopter but that a 4th person was added, a person who died in Ukraine.
Shows Australia is not a serious country
They heard what Putin said, everyone did: they obviously agree with Putin.
Absolutely disgusting!!!!
putin won the war
Albanese knows these Helicopters are not going to be used here but what is the harm in donating the to Ukraine ? Is Albo appeasing Vladimir Putin ? Is he afraid of ruffling Russian feathers or poking the bear ? Beginning to be rather disappointed in Albo and Labor !!
This country is at war, people are dying daily in various, ugly ways and the Australian government is worried about the safety standards of the helicopters requested by Ukraine. This whole farce just highlights the unworldly cocoon our career politicians live in, completely divorced from the real world. I am sure the Ukrainians are more than happy to take responsibility for the operations of the aircraft and any negative outcomes that may occur. Also, they are a European built machines and I am quite sure there are plentiful supplies of spare parts there, along with the expertise on how to maintain them.
Ukraine is an Alli of week from Labor and needed the helicopters and Labor should give them to Ukraine
that is not about help Ukraine !!! only protect US investments in UKRAINE !!!
What investments specifically?
IN SUCH CASE
ALLIES IS ALREADY LOST
UKRAINE
Australia could sell them as spare parts, and get around reliability
It’s Australia, we probably only have 12 of them anyways lol when the USA left all the black Hawkes in the Middle East the taliban were quick to repair them so I’m sure that even with missing bits these helis would be a great help to Ukraine.
18 Blackhawks were seized from the Afghan National Army after the withdrawal of coalition troops from Afghanistan,only 6 were operational,and less than 6 are now believed to be airworthy.
You 45 helicopters siting in storage in Townsville.
Donate them to vanuato and other Solomon nations. Help your poor neighbors.... Use your brain australia
It's a European bird. There must be mechanics all around
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Come on ozzies. Dont be a wuzz
The fact that these are not safe and a risk, is a reasonable excuse not to send them. The heading of this piece makes it sound like Australia don't sympathise with Ukraine.
something stinks here and i think it is the albanese goverment
Which government is going to pay to ship them...6000 miles or so into the Black Sea where the freighter ship may come under attack from land based Russian cruise or other missiles?
Look, it would be better to ship a dozen of the best left intact for the Ukrainians to decide. Can a smaller group be sent? Just so they can maybe fly 8 or 9 on a regular basis and use the other three for parts?
Why should we, the taxpayer, give them anything?
They are the Wong Ones
Some taxpayers might want to, and then, in a democracy we usually respect the majority..
If Australia was being attacked wouldn't you want other countries to help us?
@@johno9507 Australia wouldn't have a target on its back if it minded its own borders.
@wunderlol and you're the same type of person who can't figure out just why the cost of living is so high.
Lack of backbone these helicopters could have saved many lives ferrying insured soldiers back to medical facilities, I do hope the Labor Government can look back at the Ukraine war and say. We helped Putin by not giving our redundant helicopters to Ukraine, something to be proud of Not.
Who the he'll is the Australia and the usa keep saying that these weapons when they not there
Errr Helo Mister Albanez,
Ve like yor new vertelyots, err how yu say...chopers.
Send them now. Dont fack araund or Elsa.