When I became a vegan 53 years ago I took charge of my own health and quit running to a doctor if I had a health problem. I'm now several years past 75, Maybe I should drop into a doctor's office and say hello just to let them know vegans past 75 are alive and well.
Yay! Thank you for stopping hunting and fishing!!! Hunters give me the chills in a bad way. To see a beautiful animal then aim intentionally at it then pose for a photo with the dead beauty is sickening and quite cruel. 🤜🤛
@BloodMoon If it is the cost, you can find quite a few TH-cam videos about how to be vegan on a budget. :-). It often works out to be less expensive than a “standard” way of eating.
@BloodMoon Do the best you can, that is all anyone can ask of you. And when you can be fully vegan, you will be. You clearly want to. Best of luck to you. :)
omg Ed. I'm an engineer at Ecosia and I nearly jumped out of my seat when you started talking about us! Thank you so much! If you're ever in Berlin, I'll give you the office tour!
I got told the joke " how do you know someone is vegan? Because they'll tell you". I responded with "how do you know a meat eater is a meat eater? Because their logical inconsistencies tell you before they do".
Pesky vegans… debating with facts, intelligence and compassion. Those meat eaters always win when they reply with “bacon” and “I’m eating a steak right now” you just can’t beat that argument.
I was vegan before I found your channel. My wife became vegetarian when there was a vegan table at our campus. They gave us vegan jerky if we watched 5 minutes of factory farming videos. My wife actually turned me vegetarian, and then several horror documentaries later, I choose veganism and she following shortly behind me. The reason why I love your channel is it helps me be a better vegan. I can debate non-vegans much better because I can use your key arguments against them. The arguments that I run into with the nonvegans in my life is the "but you have to eat meat to be healthy," but they acknowledge factory farming is horrible. The second issue I run into is the "but you can eat organic meat," even though those who make this argument are likely not eating organic meat. And then of course, if you asked them to watch the horrors of animal factory farming, they think you are disgusting and into gore. No one wants to see it, but you watch it so you can empathize and realize how you are apart of the problem when you eat meat. I feel like every vegan hears the same arguments, but not every vegan knows how to respond. You really and truly help with that process, I think.
Yes you are so right and there is nothing more satisfying than having a debate with a meat eater and boxing then into a corner. Because when they end up with. "But what about plants they also feel pain" you know your work is done.
As far as doing "whatever you want" to an animal, why would you WANT to harm them?? Some people make the worst arguments. Really shows what's inside them.
If you have power over someone, you should brutally torture, abuse and kill them. Great logic. Thinking of a psychopath. Or worse. Well, i would say i am superior to the person who made that comment. They should just submit to me to do with as a i please. It's very close to "might is right" thinking. Barbarians with axes > Genius scientists. But yeah, you are on point. If that's what you'd jump to doing when someone is at your mercy... 0 empathy or compassion. So disconnected from the reality as they drop comments like that. On top, there are countless logical holes in there.
@@oliviatreip2613 Agreed. People do want to eat animals and they do taste good sometimes. Question is whether the brief taste pleasure is worth the suffering inflicted. Personally, I say no. You may feel differently.
It is easier to believe a lie then to accept an uncomfortable truth - for years I didn’t want to accept what inside of me I already knew was not right! Thank you Ed for all you do!
The only truth is that you are propably going to suffer as a vegan. Your vegan Jesus will never tell you that. No matter how much you try, you might get bloated, have stomach ache, low libido, no period ect ect.. who knows how many problems... I eat meat, and im happy, im strong, im alive... If you feel the same while eating just plants, kudos to you, continue with what you do!
@@UrielCopy Getting bloated is far less likely on a vegan diet unless you're gluten intolerant but plenty of gluten is consumed on a normal diet as well. I'm yet to actually meet a vegan that has reported anything other than feeling healthier since the change
@@UrielCopy that's dishonest honestly. You come here to say 'the only truth' without knowing anything about the subject (I've studied the matter and you are profoundly wrong). Then you proceed to say that as you are happy, then it means it is the way. Nevertheless that's projecting your own beliefs to other people, in a channel that is obviously for a vegan audience. Are you really that happy, strong, alive... if you need to tell people what to do in order to feel better? The only truth is you aren't able to reflect on your habits and their impact on others and therefore judge whoever is able to, so you can actually release some of the tension. I can understand it, but please keep your shit for yourself and get educated.
@@rorybessell8280 I know plenty of ex-vegans who had pain, bloating, low libido ect. all kinds of problems. They get back to omnivore, and they suddenly feel ok again. Me too was in that same spot, suffering unnecessary on vegan diet..
@@UrielCopy You do realise that provided you still obtain the required vitamins (which is easy) and consume similar macro levels. Eating a vegan diet should have no difference to your health aside from opening up your arteries as meat certainly clogs them. There could be a range of specific things that caused these issues but the only actual cause is lazy preparation
I'm a nurse and I had a female patient who was 101! She was vegan and has been for over half of her life. She was doing very well for her age considering! I've had some elderly patients above 75 who are vegan or vegetarian. And I tend to advocate to meat eating patients a vegan influenced diet to aid in their recovery once home. The patients I have who are vegan tend to be on better shape than the none vegans 😅 and many have told me going vegan helped them improve existing conditions over time
@Ryan Robinett The AHS2 study literally shows that the average life span is 13 years longer for Adventists who are vegan, compared to non vegan. Got nothing to do with ideology.
When confronted with that "plants feel too" argument the other day, I grabbed a bunch of leaves off a nearby bush and said "are you really comparing THAT to cutting off a pigs foot?!?!" Which made me realize another point ... the plant grows more leaves and is healthier for it, while the pig dies.
@@robinwallace7097 who are you to try and tell me or anyone else what they need? I think your condition is a symptom of too much social media and not enough fresh air. Help end your own suffering and get a life.
Love the sarcasm! Your way of dealing with such idiotic comments, and people, with plain facts and humor is so much more effective than anger and hate.
@@evilsbrother8247 are you referring to those plants being fed to animals so more animals die for animal products? Food conversion rate. Go educate yourself.
That exact speech turned me vegan almost 3 years ago! 🌱 I remember not being able make excuses anymore because you pretty much debunked all of them in one video. It left me speechless. It was wonderful! Thank you 💚🙏
Same here! I had been considering going vegan and then that speech singlehandedly dismantled every argument I had. My wife and I discussed it later that day and I used all the same logic to answer her questions.
Specific factors in cult behaviour are said to include manipulative and authoritarian mind control over members, communal and totalistic organization, aggressive proselytizing, systematic programs of indoctrination, and perpetuation in middle-class communities. Cult leaders are usually psychopaths with a desire for power and often take ideas from politics, religion and psychology to fulfill their purpose. Through mind control, they are able to filter their thoughts and behaviors into "fanatical faith and belief" among followers.
as someone who had family die in a concentration camp and works together with both physically and mentally disabled people on a daily basis, i really hate the idea that it's okay to murder 'inferior' groups
@@kidsandus8061 i haven't called anyone names, not sure where you got that and lions don't murder gazelles with the justification that they're better than them, they do it for survival and because they're not moral agents. we however know the consequences of our actions and should therefore be held responsible to a much larger degree than those who don't, be they children, mentally disabled or animals. especially since we know we have alternatives that don't require it
For the "plants don't want to be eaten" comment, if they're really worried about it, they should realize that plants make fruiting bodies like fruits and vegetables for the sole purpose of being eaten. The same goes for some fungus like truffles. Also, again, if they're really worried about it, this means they should live their lives as fruitarians. The fact that plants, fungus, and other non-intelligent life forms might feel fear and pain beyond harvesting fruiting bodies is not justification to go out and slaughter animals. If you shoot down veganism as not enough because even plants can be harmed, then eating meat and other exploitation of animals is doubly immoral. Not the best pro-omnivore talking point.
@Ryan Robinett I agree that Ed seems to have avoided the point I was making and that it is a blurry divide between sentience and non-sentience. I was just making an additional counterpoint to that original comment, not a counter-counterpoint to Ed's counterpoint. But the example with the huckleberry bush doesn't make sense. A single plant, or species that relies on passive modes of reproduction like spreading seeds doesn't make sense. It can't care less if you are a fruitarian or not, but it doesn't know what happens to its seeds when the berries are eaten, so it can't react to this anyhow, as an individual plant or species. So effectively, getting rid of its fruit somehow is the end of its business, as an individual. As a species, it would be to appeal to the species which eats the fruit and helps spread its seed, and to protect and deter against species and scenarios which fail to spread the seed, whatever that may be. Anyhow, my point was a moral one, not an evolutionary biological one. This is kind of getting off-topic. But in the spirit of your last question, I think the better way to go about it is if our actions harm or kill an organism when we exploit it. The definition of harm is fuzzy, once again, but it is fairly reasonable that plucking a fruit meant to be plucked or naturally drop otherwise, would not harm the plant. This logic could be extended to other parts of a plant like leaves and roots. See Jain ethics for a more complete analysis of that.
@Ryan Robinett Have you actually studied horticulture? It's entirely chemical, and their are many different mechanism responsible for various functions. For example, seeds decide when to emerge based on the light quantity and quality reaching them. This is because some seeds need to be fairly close to the soil surface due to the limitations if the energy stored within them. Is that decision sentient? Of course not. Reactionary awareness is not the same as self awareness and sentience.
@Ryan Robinett Most plants and fungus will keep on living after you consume from them. All fruits, peppers, nuts, most fungus keep on living. Cashew trees live to 100. Name a slice of meat that comes from an animal that keeps on living. You snip a Morel and next year there will be more in the exact same spot because the mushroom part is only a flower or equivalent of an apple on a tree.
Specific factors in cult behaviour are said to include manipulative and authoritarian mind control over members, communal and totalistic organization, aggressive proselytizing, systematic programs of indoctrination, and perpetuation in middle-class communities. Cult leaders are usually psychopaths with a desire for power and often take ideas from politics, religion and psychology to fulfill their purpose. Through mind control, they are able to filter their thoughts and behaviors into "fanatical faith and belief" among followers.
Absolutely! Whatever field Ed had chosen to go into would have benefited, off the scale, from his intelligence and amazing ability to articulate. God, we are so blessed that veganism was his chosen path! Thanks Ed you wonderful, lovely human!!
“I can’t believe I didn’t include a rebuttal to the argument of what if I am a sociopath who has an inability to empathise with the suffering and well-being of others. How foolish and short-sighted of me” 😆I love you 🤟
You were the person we needed in the 80s and beyond. Your down to earth and calm approach and encouragement to becoming Vegan along with your passion for Veganism is something i could have used in my early teens....Keep doing your good work. You are so appreciated.
The more I look at my cat, the more I’m convinced of my decision to become a vegan I made last September. Animals are FULL of personality and are just begging to express it.
The more I look at my cat the more guilt I feel about owning an obligate carnivore for a pet. But I will keep feeding him the appropriate food as my obligation to him.
@@GarudaLegends How sad is your life revolving around trolling vegan channels. The few of view are surely dealing with some hardcore cognitive dissonance to be this obsessed. Also, you are wrong. Naturally. (As shown by evidence, something you are terrified of, as well as by basic logic)
The irony of owning an obligate carnivore pet..... You might be vegan, but you and other vegans who own obligate carnivore pets like you, are contributing in killing other animals thus creating ''unnecessary suffering'', INTENTIONALLY because you chose to have that pet. Fucking hypocrite.
As I've been using Ecosia on my phone for years now I just checked how many trees "I've" planted: 9,540 🥳 Thank you for your work- I think it says a lot that with so many views there are so many positive comments 💕
@@evilsbrother8247 three year old account with hundreds of posts just on Eds page. Yeah, of course it's fake ^^ You on the other hand just made your account four days ago and only posts troll comments. I ask myself who would be more likely to be a fake profile 🤔
@@evilsbrother8247 cult /kəlt/ noun a system of religious veneration and devotion directed toward a particular figure or object. "the cult of St. Olaf" Ed is not the leader of veganism
@@prosandcons-fl2cc you have only posted about 1/3rd of the meaning of cult, would you like me to post the entire oxford dictionary meaning of cult or would that not suit your narrative? I can also post behaviours that define a cult. Would you like to see that also?
@@prosandcons-fl2cc noun noun: cult; plural noun: cults 1. a system of religious veneration and devotion directed towards a particular figure or object. "the cult of St Olaf" a relatively small group of people having religious beliefs or practices regarded by others as strange or as imposing excessive control over members. "a network of Satan-worshipping cults" Similar: sect religious group denomination religious order church faith faith community belief persuasion affiliation movement group body faction clique a misplaced or excessive admiration for a particular thing. "the cult of the pursuit of money as an end in itself" Similar: obsession with fixation on mania for passion for idolization of admiration for devotion to worship of veneration of reverence for 2. a person or thing that is popular or fashionable among a particular group or section of society.
That video made me see the truth. Those questions you asked made me think. No one had ever put veganism that way before. I was and still am traumatised from the realisation of what I did to animals. I only watched the video because I misunderstood the title and thought the video was going to help me debunk veganism. Once you announced you were vegan I nearly turned it off but something about your words kept me listening and by the end of it, I couldn’t stop crying. That was almost a year ago to the date and I’ve never looked back. I’ll never go back. I wish I saw that video sooner. I’m not even sure why it came up on my news feed but I would still be an animal abuser if it didn’t. This video turned my world upside down. I was so against veganism till I watched that video. Now I will fight for the animals till the day I die. I owe them. We all do. #goveganfortheanimals
Thank you for always helping to provide me with good solid answers to non-vegans when they try to tear down veganism. I encounter them frequently and when they run out of anything to say, the “plants have feelings too” almost always comes out.
ugh, i so deeply wish more people in the world were like you. i went vegan in 2014 and just recently really started watching your channel. you are brilliant, and i deeply admire your ability to stay calm in THE most frustrating of conversations. i could genuinely never 😭 thank you for being such a loud, passionate and logical voice!
I found that TEDx talk when I was already seriously considering veganism (I had already been vegetarian for nearly a decade) and it was the final push I needed to go 100% vegan. It just made so much sense that I couldn't not go vegan. People often ask why I decided to go vegan but it wasn't a choice for me. It was the only option where I didn't feel like a hypocrite.
When I heard the argument about the age, I immediately thought of T. Colin Campbell, who is currently 88 years old. He is an accomplished scholar and the author of The China Study, often called the Grand Prix of Epidemiology. It’s a study that shows strong evidence in favor of eating more plants to prevent disease.
they dont last long as vegans in old age. that is why meat eaters and even vegetarians become the oldest living ppl. not vegans. they end up kicking the bucket prematurely
@@vthomas375 just look up longest living vegans. you will see names and ages of them. do you vegans know nothing about anything? seems like i am talking to uneducated children. you can literally find it on pro vegan sites.
That video was one that thoroughly convinced me to go from "eating animals is fine and normal" to "what the hell is wrong with me???" Veganism should be the norm and it is well on it's way! Thank you Ed for everything you do!
Cult leaders are usually psychopaths with a desire for power and often take ideas from politics, religion and psychology to fulfill their purpose. Through mind control, they are able to filter their thoughts and behaviors into "fanatical faith and belief" among followers.
I love your approach Ed ♥️ my favorite response you made was about the “plants don’t want to die too” comment because when I hear this I go “now you’re just pulling sh** from your a** and I’m not about to waste my time” but thank you for providing an answer I can now use to better educate people 🥰🥰 even though I feel like that’s just being blissfully ignorant
Love it, thanks again Ed. Your rebuttals are fabulous, as always. I’m a 54 year old vegan and don’t have the need to visit my GP now, not even for a sniffle. Looking forward to being 75 and still not needing to visit my GP to get a monthly dose of pills to keep me alive. Seems the veggies are doing their job, yum 😂
I’m 61, vegan 5 years, vegetarian 46 years. I did have the misfortune of an ear infection about 15 years ago that sent me to the doctor but that was my only visit since I got a checkup as a child.
Lies breed apathy. Apathy creates one insane disconnect. Awesome that that video's reached the two million milestone. Nice one Earthling Ed. You're a beacon for genuine decency in Human Beings 😊😉 As for the ones clinging to blissful ignorance, stop letting that sick industry lie to you and using you to keep wretched, diseased hell holes open 🤢🤮
For at least half a year I have gone in that comment section once a week to hold animal abusers accountable. Please join me in making this a regular routine of yours to help change minds. 💙
Kind of a waste of time. If you really want to make a difference, talk about veganism with your friends who trust you. To youtube comments you are just another username.
I have not seen any defence mechanism in a mango or an orange, as a matter of fact quite the opposite! They look colorful and smell good because the act of picking and eating them, and therefore helping the immovable plant to spread their seed around the soil at distance is actually and literally an act of love (the reproductive, sexual driven type of "love")
We're superior to other animals is essentially just might makes right, so technically I could roundhouse kick children off an airplane. I mean, I'm stronger than them, so who cares? I swear the world that animal eaters implicitly endorse is a nightmare.
@@GarudaLegends If the argument is "I can do so and so because I'm more intelligent" you have to prove the consistency by using the argument in a different scenario. Children are less intelligent so that scenario is perfectly valid. Saying you can't compare humans to animals without actually naming a moral difference is bad justifcation. What are animals lacking that justifies different treatment? Intelligence isn't one, we debunked that already.
I am so overwhelmed by your mind's ability to think through these complex issues. It is as though it happens seamlessly without any work. In certain social situations, I wish I could channel your brain and have these well-thought-out witty comebacks.
Just downloaded Ecosia a few days ago on my desktop, laptop and phone ... and it's great. Always puts a smile on my face when I see the tree count :) 💚❤🌍🌳
Ive seen the smartest people go wrong when talking about veganism. Its my favorite topic of discussion to recognize who has empathy and the brain cells to be morally consistent and change their opinions (which is the toughest part since it requires you to own your past mistakes due to unawareness) when proven wrong.
As the Blue Zone book/website notes the SDA (Seventh Day Adventist) community down in southern California has a population of 9k, with the healthiest, longest lifespan who simply do not get sick! They are vegan/vegetarian. There are SDA in every state, with tens of thousands in Washington, Oregon, Florida. Close to 400k here in California. It was the FREE weekly cooking class a local SDA in Fresno in the early 70's that got us on our plant-based path. We only see a doctor once a year as required by my medical insurance.
Earthling Ed is one of the most reasonable, calm, polite and measured debaters I've seen - seeing he also has a sense of humour and knows how to use sarcasm to great effect is lovely. A different, but adorable 'nother side to Ed here.
I'm 57 years old and I've been vegan for 8 years. it was the best choice of my life. I am more aware of love for others. but I know that each one is in its own way. My change was wonderful.❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤thanks for your work.
I’m only 13 seconds in but I wanted to tell you…. That video was life changing. I was already on board with veganism when I saw it, but still ate meat. It was what really took me over the edge. I knew after listening that there was no reason to continue eating animals. Anytime anyone asks me about veganism, I send them a link to that talk. It’s literally a mic drop for veganism.
Your response to every comment was amazing...when you speak on these topics...it feels like my soul is speaking...because i also have had these thoughts always in my mind...but i am not good at conveying them in words like you...u are doing a great job!! Love love love❤
OMG you're actually bringing attention to Ecosia! Got to say, I've been using that search engine for a few years now, I never use Google anymore except for my Gmail account related stuff. Overall excellent video and keep fighting the good fight!
Hi Ed! I always love your videos, and you are the catalyst for why I switched to Veganism. I love your clothing brand launch, and I’m excited to buy some items. I would like to ask for the next round, whenever that may be, that more colorful options be available:) I love wearing bright colors and tie dyes, and I think it would be amazing to see your designs in such a way. Thank you for all that you do!
i would really love to see you and my husband debate on veganism. i just can't win but i am not nearly as good in talking as ed is. BUT, i had a nice conversation with my EMEA boss at a dinner once (ngl my anxiety kicked in hard in this one), and managed to make my point to a point, where my boss would not answer anymore. i was confused because that had never happened, but really: eds book helped! i was prepared for EVERYTHING he said.... it was like playing an rpg and every argument was an enemy that i knew the weakness of. felt amazing, thank you ed for your work
As a 77 yr old, who has been a vegan for 40 years, I haven't seen a Dr for years and don't take medication. I'm doing just fine and people are disbelieving of my age......thinking I am in my early 60s.
I am a new vegan. 6 months. I am 53 years old. Not going vegan earlier in life is going to be one of my life long regrets. However, I think it is really important for vegans to understand the best way to help other non-vegans convert is to be patient, non- judgmental, and evidence based. I tried veganism because of the reported health benefits. I was a strict paleo-eater for almost 10 years. I couldn't lose the weight and my cholesterol was climbing. I found vegans like Simon Hill who helped me understand the science based evidence behind going vegan and getting healthier. This was my turning point. Afterwards, I started to reflect on meat itself and the disgusting industry that inflicts so much suffering on sentient beings. Now, I feel better emotionally as well for my decision to go vegan. The point is I never would have tried the vegan lifestyle unless it was for my own health. And I would have really found judgmental comments accusing me of being a horrible person to be really annoying and a turn off. My two cents. Oh and I am 40 pounds lighter with 20 more pounds to go until my BMI is in the normal range. Cholesterol is 160, down from 220. My skin is clearer and I have more energy. But best of all, I feel more compassionate toward other living creatures and the planet... which I now realize is the key to happiness for me. Thanks Ed!
Different for everyone. Obviously it should all be evidence based, but I went vegan because of the people calling out my inconsistencies without caring about how I felt. We need both.
Went vegan and as a nice side effect my digestive issues I'd been having for several years stopped. Actually stopped losing weight. Mind you: at this point the only animal products I was eating was eggs and a little dairy and fish.
My problem with the health angle is that we all tend to have "cheat days" and from time to time we like to treat ourselves to something we enjoy. If you see veganism as nothing more than a diet, then by slipping back to carnism you may feel that you are only hurting yourself which is far too charitable. Same thing with environmentalism. All the staunch environmentalists I know still drive cars and take flights. The ethical argument is quite simply a more compelling argument. We don't typically get an accidental "slip up" in our morals and try to rob or murder someone.
@@HowardWimshurstright. Many even becoming "ex-vegans" and going "carnivore". It's frustrating to see how loosely ppl use the word "vegan" like you can't just stop and go back to abuse ,murdering animals ? Imo being vegan means a lot of responsibility and understanding the impact of your actions on other living beings in any activity you do. Just keep it to plant-based if for health and environment !
As usual, Ed, you nailed it with grace and reason. I am in awe of your ability to refute the insane excuses with such poise and dignity...and, of course, truth.
7:35 Bentham already proved this point hundreds of years ago. The quote is in the intro to animal liberation. (I’m sure Ed knows this, just pointing it out) “The question is not, Can they reason?, nor Can they talk? but, Can they suffer?”
You're bloody brilliant Ed. Just fantastic. Thank you so much for what you do. Excited to read your book. The comment about the doctor does make me laugh... the Internet just enables people to just potentially make up any anecdote with no real evidence whatsoever. Just read Dr Michael Greger's book or look on his TH-cam channel and see the overwhelming scientific evidence that a whole food plant based diet is much healthier than eating meat. Keep up the fantastic work 👏
@ just because we don't want animals killed in the trillions by other humans for a unnecessary reason doesn't mean we think ants are the same as human💀🤦
Hey Ed, my comment isn't so much related to this video but I'd like to see items added to your clothing line. I'm a vegan bodybuilder but there isn't any athletic wear specifically for vegan bodybuilders or athletes. I mean, I can wear athletic wear of any kind, but I mean athletic wear that says "vegan" or "plant-based" on it. Not to brag, but I'm usually the fittest person at my gym. I was wearing an Under Armor spandex shirt and I thought, "I wish this said Vegan across the chest, or down the side of the arm. Or perhaps, shorts or workout pants with the word Vegan on them. There's really nothing for us. I know a few other vegans who are bodybuilders and we use our looks to dispell the myth that you can't get big, strong, and rippped on a vegan diet. I really wish there was a clothing line for us so we could promote veganism in that way.
Vegan outfitters has some awesome vegan gym clothes, I have one with a gorilla that says “herbivore” I usually wear when I go climbing :) although they are casual fit so not sure if they’re what you’re after
You could do it to your own clothes. Maybe buy some clothes stickers (or whatever) and do it? I dunno, just thinking out loud but you have a very good idea.
Lollol! yes, the GP one was hilarious. Thanks for the laughs, Ed :P When we say to non vegans, that they shouldn't kill animals, they always come back with, 'well, it's okay, because it's for food'. I would say the same thing to them when they comment on why vegans eat plants. You don't kill a tree to get the apples. Plus fruit and veg don't have individual personalities the way animals do. No one thinks it's shocking when we see someone picking blackberries, but show slaughterhouse footage and people's faces change to that of disgust.
@@evilsbrother8247 Imagine that being an argument lol Picture following scenario: Three strangers beat you up on the street, but of course you wouldn't want anyone to step in, because that would mean they would make choices for the attackers. Oh I love your nonsense arguments. So easily debunkable.
@@michaelmcgavin7106 i dream of the day some vegan extremist walks into a restaurant and starts yelling abuse at me or attempting to 'educate' my children or someone elses just because they think veganism entitles them to do so. Then you will see what happens when you try and force your beliefs onto people who dont stand for it.
im vegan and live with my dad. he wouldn't talk to me about going vegan at all for over a year. i begged him to just watch your ted talk and that was the final straw that got him to start taking steps to go vegan. he's been fully vegan for over a year now.
Great job Ed. You could probably do another 1000 videos on carnist comments on that video. As for that comment about the doctor, I mean, most people over age 75 don't even know what "vegan" means, so they certainly aren't living the lifestyle.....veganism is much more prevalent among younger generations than older generations anyway; that "argument" is flawed in so many ways, and as Ed mentioned (and I was thinking too), it actually could mean the opposite of what the commenter was getting at....
You are the kindest person even to those who don't deserve it so I absolutely love when we get this sassy and sarcastic side haha. You are the best human.
When I became a vegan 53 years ago I took charge of my own health and quit running to a doctor if I had a health problem. I'm now several years past 75, Maybe I should drop into a doctor's office and say hello just to let them know vegans past 75 are alive and well.
53 years, bloody hell no mean feat 👏
Awesome! My great uncle went vegan at 90 and lived healthy to 105 and still had a personal trainer! I’m at 7 years so far!
You are a legend Cliff!!!
ha I love this
It must be a miracle... there is obviously no other explanation. I've been vegan 17 years and I don't know how I'm still alive..
From hunter and fisherman to vegan 5 years ago. Best decision ever. Thank you Ed.
That's amazing!! 👏👏👏👏
Excellent! So pleased to hear that... 🙂
Good for you! That’s awesome!
Legend!!
Yay! Thank you for stopping hunting and fishing!!! Hunters give me the chills in a bad way. To see a beautiful animal then aim intentionally at it then pose for a photo with the dead beauty is sickening and quite cruel. 🤜🤛
I, a 60 year old female vegan had my check-up recently, and my doctor said: „Your health condition is actually bad for my business!“
@BloodMoon If it is the cost, you can find quite a few TH-cam videos about how to be vegan on a budget. :-). It often works out to be less expensive than a “standard” way of eating.
@BloodMoon Do the best you can, that is all anyone can ask of you. And when you can be fully vegan, you will be. You clearly want to. Best of luck to you. :)
@BloodMoon aww darling you're doing the best you can, I wish you lots of luck on your future
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americans are crazy for seeing healthcare as a business tbh
omg Ed. I'm an engineer at Ecosia and I nearly jumped out of my seat when you started talking about us! Thank you so much!
If you're ever in Berlin, I'll give you the office tour!
Are they going to plant FRUIT trees....? That would be a real solution....
Thank you to you and your co-workers for all you do 😁
Yay, that's cool! I've been using and promoting Ecosia for years. Love the concept! ♡
Komm se rin, könn' se rauskieken! 😃🌱🤙🏼
Hey, next time I'm in Berlin, wanna grab a drink?
My mom is 72, been vegan 6 years. Reversed nearly all of her health issues. Her doctors are VERY pleased.
Good for her I’ve been vegan since lunch time
@@tom4412 That's great! 😃 You have to start somewhere. Keep going. 💪
@@zelda8207 I am thanks
Hope you're still going strong! @@tom4412
I got told the joke " how do you know someone is vegan? Because they'll tell you". I responded with "how do you know a meat eater is a meat eater? Because their logical inconsistencies tell you before they do".
Or you’ll know because the meat eater will post a picture of their steak when you talk about veganism.
How do you know someone is a meat eater ? - They tell the same lame joke everytime they learn someone is vegan.
or “mmmm steak” ; “mmmm bacon”
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Pesky vegans… debating with facts, intelligence and compassion.
Those meat eaters always win when they reply with “bacon” and “I’m eating a steak right now” you just can’t beat that argument.
@@paulb8251 True, they are tasty, but the screaming gassed to death pigs and bolt in the brain imagery sure helps me not want them anymore!
I was vegan before I found your channel. My wife became vegetarian when there was a vegan table at our campus. They gave us vegan jerky if we watched 5 minutes of factory farming videos. My wife actually turned me vegetarian, and then several horror documentaries later, I choose veganism and she following shortly behind me. The reason why I love your channel is it helps me be a better vegan. I can debate non-vegans much better because I can use your key arguments against them. The arguments that I run into with the nonvegans in my life is the "but you have to eat meat to be healthy," but they acknowledge factory farming is horrible. The second issue I run into is the "but you can eat organic meat," even though those who make this argument are likely not eating organic meat. And then of course, if you asked them to watch the horrors of animal factory farming, they think you are disgusting and into gore. No one wants to see it, but you watch it so you can empathize and realize how you are apart of the problem when you eat meat. I feel like every vegan hears the same arguments, but not every vegan knows how to respond. You really and truly help with that process, I think.
Yes! So much. 🌱💞
his arguments are terrible.
and even if they were good, how does being able to argue against meat eaters help you be a better vegan?
@@jedex4645 your arguments are illogical. We'll take terrible over illogical.
@@DGNINEFOUR terrible arguments are illogical, just like your response.
how is any argument i have made illogical?
Yes you are so right and there is nothing more satisfying than having a debate with a meat eater and boxing then into a corner. Because when they end up with. "But what about plants they also feel pain" you know your work is done.
As far as doing "whatever you want" to an animal, why would you WANT to harm them?? Some people make the worst arguments. Really shows what's inside them.
If you have power over someone, you should brutally torture, abuse and kill them. Great logic.
Thinking of a psychopath. Or worse.
Well, i would say i am superior to the person who made that comment. They should just submit to me to do with as a i please.
It's very close to "might is right" thinking. Barbarians with axes > Genius scientists.
But yeah, you are on point. If that's what you'd jump to doing when someone is at your mercy...
0 empathy or compassion. So disconnected from the reality as they drop comments like that.
On top, there are countless logical holes in there.
Cause they feel powerful over someone else who has no ability to protect themselves. They are quite literally psychopaths.
They literally out themselves as heartless, abusive psychos
@@oliviatreip2613 Agreed. People do want to eat animals and they do taste good sometimes. Question is whether the brief taste pleasure is worth the suffering inflicted. Personally, I say no. You may feel differently.
@@oliviatreip2613 Isn't that the definition of harming someone for your own benefit/pleasure? How is that different from rape?
It is easier to believe a lie then to accept an uncomfortable truth - for years I didn’t want to accept what inside of me I already knew was not right! Thank you Ed for all you do!
The only truth is that you are propably going to suffer as a vegan. Your vegan Jesus will never tell you that. No matter how much you try, you might get bloated, have stomach ache, low libido, no period ect ect.. who knows how many problems... I eat meat, and im happy, im strong, im alive... If you feel the same while eating just plants, kudos to you, continue with what you do!
@@UrielCopy Getting bloated is far less likely on a vegan diet unless you're gluten intolerant but plenty of gluten is consumed on a normal diet as well. I'm yet to actually meet a vegan that has reported anything other than feeling healthier since the change
@@UrielCopy that's dishonest honestly. You come here to say 'the only truth' without knowing anything about the subject (I've studied the matter and you are profoundly wrong). Then you proceed to say that as you are happy, then it means it is the way. Nevertheless that's projecting your own beliefs to other people, in a channel that is obviously for a vegan audience. Are you really that happy, strong, alive... if you need to tell people what to do in order to feel better? The only truth is you aren't able to reflect on your habits and their impact on others and therefore judge whoever is able to, so you can actually release some of the tension.
I can understand it, but please keep your shit for yourself and get educated.
@@rorybessell8280 I know plenty of ex-vegans who had pain, bloating, low libido ect. all kinds of problems. They get back to omnivore, and they suddenly feel ok again. Me too was in that same spot, suffering unnecessary on vegan diet..
@@UrielCopy You do realise that provided you still obtain the required vitamins (which is easy) and consume similar macro levels. Eating a vegan diet should have no difference to your health aside from opening up your arteries as meat certainly clogs them. There could be a range of specific things that caused these issues but the only actual cause is lazy preparation
I'm a nurse and I had a female patient who was 101! She was vegan and has been for over half of her life. She was doing very well for her age considering! I've had some elderly patients above 75 who are vegan or vegetarian. And I tend to advocate to meat eating patients a vegan influenced diet to aid in their recovery once home. The patients I have who are vegan tend to be on better shape than the none vegans 😅 and many have told me going vegan helped them improve existing conditions over time
@Ryan Robinett Then you'd surely know that the vegan 7th day Adventists live an average of 13 years longer than the non-vegan ones.
@Ryan Robinett The AHS2 study literally shows that the average life span is 13 years longer for Adventists who are vegan, compared to non vegan. Got nothing to do with ideology.
Im gonna side step this argument 😅 I was just simple replying to the part about a doctor having never seen a vegan patient.
Perfect comment.
@Ryan Robinett You we’re doing so well until you attacked vegan activists. WTF, man?
When confronted with that "plants feel too" argument the other day, I grabbed a bunch of leaves off a nearby bush and said "are you really comparing THAT to cutting off a pigs foot?!?!" Which made me realize another point ... the plant grows more leaves and is healthier for it, while the pig dies.
Yep. We prune plants to keep them healthy and stimulate growth.
Great analogy. Thank you!!
Yes but we eat the pig.
What did you do with the leaves?
@@evilsbrother8247 You don't need to eat the pig. You can be healthy and happy without causing suffering.
@@robinwallace7097 who are you to try and tell me or anyone else what they need? I think your condition is a symptom of too much social media and not enough fresh air. Help end your own suffering and get a life.
I've been vegan for 7 years and I will be vegan for the rest of my life. ❤️
Love the commitment
Saaaame 🥰🥰
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same
I feel bad for you.
Love the sarcasm! Your way of dealing with such idiotic comments, and people, with plain facts and humor is so much more effective than anger and hate.
The only thing getting roasted are my brain cells after reading the same thoroughly debunked arguments over and over again.
Name one
@@evilsbrother8247 BUT PLANTS!
@@ystein5859 are you referring to the zillions of smaller animals killed by pesticides etc?
Or is it gazillions?
@@evilsbrother8247 are you referring to those plants being fed to animals so more animals die for animal products? Food conversion rate. Go educate yourself.
@@Mich-G i guess you think the only animals harmed in farming practices have fur and hooves.
Hey Ed, Erick from Tempe AZ here. That was actually the exact video that turned me vegan.
That Ted talk was the most powerful vegan tool I’ve ever seen
That exact speech turned me vegan almost 3 years ago! 🌱
I remember not being able make excuses anymore because you pretty much debunked all of them in one video. It left me speechless. It was wonderful! Thank you 💚🙏
Me too! It was certainly very thought provoking! There are simply no excuses unless you are that thick you block them and stick your head in the sand
Hope to see future content from you. 💙
Same here! I had been considering going vegan and then that speech singlehandedly dismantled every argument I had. My wife and I discussed it later that day and I used all the same logic to answer her questions.
Specific factors in cult behaviour are said to include manipulative and authoritarian mind control over members, communal and totalistic organization, aggressive proselytizing, systematic programs of indoctrination, and perpetuation in middle-class communities.
Cult leaders are usually psychopaths with a desire for power and often take ideas from politics, religion and psychology to fulfill their purpose. Through mind control, they are able to filter their thoughts and behaviors into "fanatical faith and belief" among followers.
@@evilsbrother8247 You've spent at least half an hour on this video leaving pro animal abuse comments. Are you okay?
as someone who had family die in a concentration camp and works together with both physically and mentally disabled people on a daily basis, i really hate the idea that it's okay to murder 'inferior' groups
Killing animals is not murder.
@@kidsandus8061 it is the premeditated killing of an individual against their will and good...
Lions kill other animals and nobody calls them names.
@@kidsandus8061 i haven't called anyone names, not sure where you got that
and lions don't murder gazelles with the justification that they're better than them, they do it for survival and because they're not moral agents.
we however know the consequences of our actions and should therefore be held responsible to a much larger degree than those who don't, be they children, mentally disabled or animals. especially since we know we have alternatives that don't require it
@@kidsandus8061 lions have no other choice. Humans do.
Vegan almost 2 year's now thanks to you and Joey! Love you!👍👏♥️♥️♥️
Same, had covid over Christmas and did some research about veganism, and Joey and Ed turned me vegan.
6 and half months in and feeling great 🌱
@@mrmcecheese1456 Well done! I practically live on Tesco Plant Chef range! And Wicked kitchen too! Lovely..😁👍👏
Your TED talk all those years ago made me vegan Ed. You made a significant impact on me and my daughter.
I am 63 and my husband is 72 and we are watching this video and we can’t remember the last time we saw a GP.
For the "plants don't want to be eaten" comment, if they're really worried about it, they should realize that plants make fruiting bodies like fruits and vegetables for the sole purpose of being eaten. The same goes for some fungus like truffles.
Also, again, if they're really worried about it, this means they should live their lives as fruitarians. The fact that plants, fungus, and other non-intelligent life forms might feel fear and pain beyond harvesting fruiting bodies is not justification to go out and slaughter animals.
If you shoot down veganism as not enough because even plants can be harmed, then eating meat and other exploitation of animals is doubly immoral. Not the best pro-omnivore talking point.
This ☝️ !
@Ryan Robinett I agree that Ed seems to have avoided the point I was making and that it is a blurry divide between sentience and non-sentience. I was just making an additional counterpoint to that original comment, not a counter-counterpoint to Ed's counterpoint.
But the example with the huckleberry bush doesn't make sense. A single plant, or species that relies on passive modes of reproduction like spreading seeds doesn't make sense. It can't care less if you are a fruitarian or not, but it doesn't know what happens to its seeds when the berries are eaten, so it can't react to this anyhow, as an individual plant or species. So effectively, getting rid of its fruit somehow is the end of its business, as an individual. As a species, it would be to appeal to the species which eats the fruit and helps spread its seed, and to protect and deter against species and scenarios which fail to spread the seed, whatever that may be.
Anyhow, my point was a moral one, not an evolutionary biological one. This is kind of getting off-topic.
But in the spirit of your last question, I think the better way to go about it is if our actions harm or kill an organism when we exploit it. The definition of harm is fuzzy, once again, but it is fairly reasonable that plucking a fruit meant to be plucked or naturally drop otherwise, would not harm the plant. This logic could be extended to other parts of a plant like leaves and roots. See Jain ethics for a more complete analysis of that.
@Ryan Robinett Have you actually studied horticulture? It's entirely chemical, and their are many different mechanism responsible for various functions. For example, seeds decide when to emerge based on the light quantity and quality reaching them. This is because some seeds need to be fairly close to the soil surface due to the limitations if the energy stored within them. Is that decision sentient? Of course not. Reactionary awareness is not the same as self awareness and sentience.
@Ryan Robinett Most plants and fungus will keep on living after you consume from them. All fruits, peppers, nuts, most fungus keep on living. Cashew trees live to 100. Name a slice of meat that comes from an animal that keeps on living. You snip a Morel and next year there will be more in the exact same spot because the mushroom part is only a flower or equivalent of an apple on a tree.
@Ryan Robinett 97% of meat & dairy comes from factory farms. You believe factory farms are good for the planet. lol Bye Lyin Bryan
This was actually the Video which made me Vegan, thank you Ed for everything.
Nice
Specific factors in cult behaviour are said to include manipulative and authoritarian mind control over members, communal and totalistic organization, aggressive proselytizing, systematic programs of indoctrination, and perpetuation in middle-class communities.
Cult leaders are usually psychopaths with a desire for power and often take ideas from politics, religion and psychology to fulfill their purpose. Through mind control, they are able to filter their thoughts and behaviors into "fanatical faith and belief" among followers.
So great, I wish you a happy vegan journey!
Same!
Once again, your ability to counter argue is just unmatched!
Absolutely! Whatever field Ed had chosen to go into would have benefited, off the scale, from his intelligence and amazing ability to articulate. God, we are so blessed that veganism was his chosen path! Thanks Ed you wonderful, lovely human!!
I don’t think people with the plant argument are serious, I think they are just stuck for words 😂
Ed, You helped me convert from 5 years of vegetarianism into a fully fledged vegan! Thank you for your inspiring videos!
“I can’t believe I didn’t include a rebuttal to the argument of what if I am a sociopath who has an inability to empathise with the suffering and well-being of others. How foolish and short-sighted of me”
😆I love you 🤟
You were the person we needed in the 80s and beyond. Your down to earth and calm approach and encouragement to becoming Vegan along with your passion for Veganism is something i could have used in my early teens....Keep doing your good work. You are so appreciated.
The more I look at my cat, the more I’m convinced of my decision to become a vegan I made last September. Animals are FULL of personality and are just begging to express it.
please dont abuse your cat on a vegan diet. they need meat.
The more I look at my cat the more guilt I feel about owning an obligate carnivore for a pet. But I will keep feeding him the appropriate food as my obligation to him.
@@GarudaLegends How sad is your life revolving around trolling vegan channels. The few of view are surely dealing with some hardcore cognitive dissonance to be this obsessed.
Also, you are wrong. Naturally. (As shown by evidence, something you are terrified of, as well as by basic logic)
@@HiddenStr3ngth i have no clue who you are, but my life is good. cats are carnivorous and not herbivores. good to know you support animal abuse.
The irony of owning an obligate carnivore pet..... You might be vegan, but you and other vegans who own obligate carnivore pets like you, are contributing in killing other animals thus creating ''unnecessary suffering'', INTENTIONALLY because you chose to have that pet. Fucking hypocrite.
As I've been using Ecosia on my phone for years now I just checked how many trees "I've" planted: 9,540 🥳 Thank you for your work- I think it says a lot that with so many views there are so many positive comments 💕
This tedx talk made me vegan and changed my life
So how many years in jail do u think you deserve for your horse abuse
Fake profile
@@evilsbrother8247 three year old account with hundreds of posts just on Eds page. Yeah, of course it's fake ^^
You on the other hand just made your account four days ago and only posts troll comments. I ask myself who would be more likely to be a fake profile 🤔
@@MrMikner lol thank you!!
And then she sent it to her"fake" mommy who also went vegan on the spot! When you know better you do better!
This is such an unexpectedly hilarious video. Your dry, sarcastic humour is fantastic, keep it up :)
Ed’s response to that third comment about not accepting morals killed me LOL
Yeah, that one unglued me! 😆
What are the 2 types of morality?
Hint: good and bad isnt the answer. Thinking they are however, defines your moral perspective.
@@evilsbrother8247 wow, you really have no idea how morality is formed.
The erudition of Earthling Ed is truly something exceptional to behold. More power to you, Brother!
Great word choice!
Cult leaders always have exceptional erudition.
@@evilsbrother8247 cult
/kəlt/
noun
a system of religious veneration and devotion directed toward a particular figure or object.
"the cult of St. Olaf"
Ed is not the leader of veganism
@@prosandcons-fl2cc you have only posted about 1/3rd of the meaning of cult, would you like me to post the entire oxford dictionary meaning of cult or would that not suit your narrative?
I can also post behaviours that define a cult. Would you like to see that also?
@@prosandcons-fl2cc
noun
noun: cult; plural noun: cults
1.
a system of religious veneration and devotion directed towards a particular figure or object.
"the cult of St Olaf"
a relatively small group of people having religious beliefs or practices regarded by others as strange or as imposing excessive control over members.
"a network of Satan-worshipping cults"
Similar:
sect
religious group
denomination
religious order
church
faith
faith community
belief
persuasion
affiliation
movement
group
body
faction
clique
a misplaced or excessive admiration for a particular thing.
"the cult of the pursuit of money as an end in itself"
Similar:
obsession with
fixation on
mania for
passion for
idolization of
admiration for
devotion to
worship of
veneration of
reverence for
2.
a person or thing that is popular or fashionable among a particular group or section of society.
That video made me see the truth. Those questions you asked made me think. No one had ever put veganism that way before. I was and still am traumatised from the realisation of what I did to animals. I only watched the video because I misunderstood the title and thought the video was going to help me debunk veganism. Once you announced you were vegan I nearly turned it off but something about your words kept me listening and by the end of it, I couldn’t stop crying. That was almost a year ago to the date and I’ve never looked back. I’ll never go back. I wish I saw that video sooner. I’m not even sure why it came up on my news feed but I would still be an animal abuser if it didn’t. This video turned my world upside down. I was so against veganism till I watched that video. Now I will fight for the animals till the day I die. I owe them. We all do. #goveganfortheanimals
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That was so intense, damn, gave me goosebumps. It's inspiring to hear how lifechanging a speech can be. Indeed we owe them, it's our responsibility.
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I'm really curious: why were you so against veganism?
It seems to me that what it is that makes humans exceptional, is the same quality that demands of us to protect those more vulnerable than ourselves.
Hi there all you wonderful and kind vegans!!!
Peace and plants from Canada.
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Hi back from another canadian vegan! 🌿
@@Jenerate ❤️🌱❤️
Me too.🌱💞
ooh gosh im cracking up "what if im a socio path" this is so funny haha Thank you for all your humor Ed.
Thank you for always helping to provide me with good solid answers to non-vegans when they try to tear down veganism. I encounter them frequently and when they run out of anything to say, the “plants have feelings too” almost always comes out.
ugh, i so deeply wish more people in the world were like you. i went vegan in 2014 and just recently really started watching your channel. you are brilliant, and i deeply admire your ability to stay calm in THE most frustrating of conversations. i could genuinely never 😭 thank you for being such a loud, passionate and logical voice!
I wish I had the patience like you to argue 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼 you always make me happy
Already using ECOSIA and already a VEGAN! Love you Ed! 🙃
It’s hilarious that someone is cheering, as a meat eater, because there are no vegans in the doctor’s surgery! 😂
vegans die off around that age. that is why the oldest ppl on earth eat meat or are atleast vegetarians. dont fool yourself
Just the fact you believe no vegans need to go to a doctor is proof of just how gullible you are.
@@GarudaLegends I’m sure you have loads of evidence of that.
@@juliewake4585 they're talking about something from the video lol...
I found that TEDx talk when I was already seriously considering veganism (I had already been vegetarian for nearly a decade) and it was the final push I needed to go 100% vegan. It just made so much sense that I couldn't not go vegan. People often ask why I decided to go vegan but it wasn't a choice for me. It was the only option where I didn't feel like a hypocrite.
I’m always amazed at his ability to calmly and elegantly respond to complete idiots.
Yeah I'd be crying due to all the frustration lol
Only 13 minutes! I would have liked an hour or more of this.
Love you Ed and what you do.
Proud patron here. You have the moral highground.
When I heard the argument about the age, I immediately thought of T. Colin Campbell, who is currently 88 years old. He is an accomplished scholar and the author of The China Study, often called the Grand Prix of Epidemiology. It’s a study that shows strong evidence in favor of eating more plants to prevent disease.
My Mom's a vegan at 89 and is as healthy as can be. 🌱💞
they dont last long as vegans in old age. that is why meat eaters and even vegetarians become the oldest living ppl. not vegans. they end up kicking the bucket prematurely
@@GarudaLegends Have you got a citation for your claim?
@@vthomas375 just look up longest living vegans. you will see names and ages of them. do you vegans know nothing about anything? seems like i am talking to uneducated children. you can literally find it on pro vegan sites.
The China study is such a good book
That video was one that thoroughly convinced me to go from "eating animals is fine and normal" to "what the hell is wrong with me???" Veganism should be the norm and it is well on it's way! Thank you Ed for everything you do!
This is by far the best answer to the “plants are alive” argument. Brilliant.
Great video! Becoming a Vegan was the best decision in my life!
Ed reacting to hate comments always delivers
Aweome response, the only thing i hate about this video, is that is not longer T.T
Lol you want more those brain rot comments ?
Cult leaders are usually psychopaths with a desire for power and often take ideas from politics, religion and psychology to fulfill their purpose. Through mind control, they are able to filter their thoughts and behaviors into "fanatical faith and belief" among followers.
@@HiddenStr3ngth More of Vegan Jesus responding to them.
I love your approach Ed ♥️ my favorite response you made was about the “plants don’t want to die too” comment because when I hear this I go “now you’re just pulling sh** from your a** and I’m not about to waste my time” but thank you for providing an answer I can now use to better educate people 🥰🥰 even though I feel like that’s just being blissfully ignorant
Thanks for some great laughs! 😅. Your book should be delivered to me tomorrow here in Ontario, Canada, and I can't wait. 🌱💞
The fact that we need to explain this just shows how common sense is lacking on this society
I love ecosia - i've been using it for years now! So great to see people finally teaming up with them.
Me too!
Ed, you're so intelligent and witty! You're becoming more and more confident as time progresses. It's wonderful to see. 🌱
Love it, thanks again Ed. Your rebuttals are fabulous, as always. I’m a 54 year old vegan and don’t have the need to visit my GP now, not even for a sniffle. Looking forward to being 75 and still not needing to visit my GP to get a monthly dose of pills to keep me alive. Seems the veggies are doing their job, yum 😂
I’m 61, vegan 5 years, vegetarian 46 years. I did have the misfortune of an ear infection about 15 years ago that sent me to the doctor but that was my only visit since I got a checkup as a child.
Lies breed apathy. Apathy creates one insane disconnect. Awesome that that video's reached the two million milestone. Nice one Earthling Ed. You're a beacon for genuine decency in Human Beings 😊😉
As for the ones clinging to blissful ignorance, stop letting that sick industry lie to you and using you to keep wretched, diseased hell holes open 🤢🤮
For at least half a year I have gone in that comment section once a week to hold animal abusers accountable. Please join me in making this a regular routine of yours to help change minds. 💙
I will join you :)
@@Prithvikalra660 "Do' it!"
Accountable 😭
Kind of a waste of time. If you really want to make a difference, talk about veganism with your friends who trust you. To youtube comments you are just another username.
@@PokeNebula I would never trust a vegan with my health
I have not seen any defence mechanism in a mango or an orange, as a matter of fact quite the opposite! They look colorful and smell good because the act of picking and eating them, and therefore helping the immovable plant to spread their seed around the soil at distance is actually and literally an act of love (the reproductive, sexual driven type of "love")
You haven't seen anything yet. Look at spinach...
@@kidsandus8061 😄😄😄
Plants fight back too, you know, they make us sick so we die and stop eating them.
We're superior to other animals is essentially just might makes right, so technically I could roundhouse kick children off an airplane. I mean, I'm stronger than them, so who cares?
I swear the world that animal eaters implicitly endorse is a nightmare.
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why are you comparing young humans to cows and rodents? please get psychological help. just say you want to abuse children.
@@GarudaLegends oh you again. 🤦
@@ΘάνατοςΧορτοφάγος who are you?
@@GarudaLegends If the argument is "I can do so and so because I'm more intelligent" you have to prove the consistency by using the argument in a different scenario. Children are less intelligent so that scenario is perfectly valid.
Saying you can't compare humans to animals without actually naming a moral difference is bad justifcation.
What are animals lacking that justifies different treatment? Intelligence isn't one, we debunked that already.
I am so overwhelmed by your mind's ability to think through these complex issues. It is as though it happens seamlessly without any work. In certain social situations, I wish I could channel your brain and have these well-thought-out witty comebacks.
Just downloaded Ecosia a few days ago on my desktop, laptop and phone ... and it's great. Always puts a smile on my face when I see the tree count :) 💚❤🌍🌳
Ive seen the smartest people go wrong when talking about veganism. Its my favorite topic of discussion to recognize who has empathy and the brain cells to be morally consistent and change their opinions (which is the toughest part since it requires you to own your past mistakes due to unawareness) when proven wrong.
I laughed so much at the ridiculous comments of these people and how you responded to them. Thank you Ed!!
Such an important TED talk, happy to partner up with you
Hey lovely, thanks so much for existing. Your company is one of my favourites. I am vegan and love using your engine
We love u ecosia 💚!!
2,580 trees on my new phone and thousands on my old one confirm that you're fricking rocking 🔥
Love you Ed. Keep on!!!!❤️🌱❤️🌱❤️🌱❤️🌱❤️
As the Blue Zone book/website notes the SDA (Seventh Day Adventist) community down in southern California has a population of 9k, with the healthiest, longest lifespan who simply do not get sick!
They are vegan/vegetarian. There are SDA in every state, with tens of thousands in Washington, Oregon, Florida. Close to 400k here in California.
It was the FREE weekly cooking class a local SDA in Fresno in the early 70's that got us on our plant-based path. We only see a doctor once a year as required by my medical insurance.
Thankyou for what you do Ed :))
Earthling Ed is one of the most reasonable, calm, polite and measured debaters I've seen - seeing he also has a sense of humour and knows how to use sarcasm to great effect is lovely. A different, but adorable 'nother side to Ed here.
I'm 57 years old and I've been vegan for 8 years. it was the best choice of my life. I am more aware of love for others. but I know that each one is in its own way. My change was wonderful.❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤thanks for your work.
I love your voice and listening to you and also the way you bring it straight to the point! Thanks for all your efforts! ❤
I’m only 13 seconds in but I wanted to tell you…. That video was life changing. I was already on board with veganism when I saw it, but still ate meat. It was what really took me over the edge. I knew after listening that there was no reason to continue eating animals. Anytime anyone asks me about veganism, I send them a link to that talk. It’s literally a mic drop for veganism.
Your response to every comment was amazing...when you speak on these topics...it feels like my soul is speaking...because i also have had these thoughts always in my mind...but i am not good at conveying them in words like you...u are doing a great job!! Love love love❤
OMG you're actually bringing attention to Ecosia! Got to say, I've been using that search engine for a few years now, I never use Google anymore except for my Gmail account related stuff.
Overall excellent video and keep fighting the good fight!
Aaaw thanks 💚💚
Hi Ed! I always love your videos, and you are the catalyst for why I switched to Veganism. I love your clothing brand launch, and I’m excited to buy some items.
I would like to ask for the next round, whenever that may be, that more colorful options be available:) I love wearing bright colors and tie dyes, and I think it would be amazing to see your designs in such a way.
Thank you for all that you do!
i would really love to see you and my husband debate on veganism. i just can't win but i am not nearly as good in talking as ed is. BUT, i had a nice conversation with my EMEA boss at a dinner once (ngl my anxiety kicked in hard in this one), and managed to make my point to a point, where my boss would not answer anymore. i was confused because that had never happened, but really: eds book helped! i was prepared for EVERYTHING he said.... it was like playing an rpg and every argument was an enemy that i knew the weakness of. felt amazing, thank you ed for your work
As a 77 yr old, who has been a vegan for 40 years, I haven't seen a Dr for years and don't take medication. I'm doing just fine and people are disbelieving of my age......thinking I am in my early 60s.
I missed these comment response videos :) you're at your saltiest and I love it
NIce one Ed hahahaha so funny those comments and as always great responses, thank you so much for all your work 🙏
I am a new vegan. 6 months. I am 53 years old. Not going vegan earlier in life is going to be one of my life long regrets. However, I think it is really important for vegans to understand the best way to help other non-vegans convert is to be patient, non- judgmental, and evidence based. I tried veganism because of the reported health benefits. I was a strict paleo-eater for almost 10 years. I couldn't lose the weight and my cholesterol was climbing. I found vegans like Simon Hill who helped me understand the science based evidence behind going vegan and getting healthier. This was my turning point. Afterwards, I started to reflect on meat itself and the disgusting industry that inflicts so much suffering on sentient beings. Now, I feel better emotionally as well for my decision to go vegan. The point is I never would have tried the vegan lifestyle unless it was for my own health. And I would have really found judgmental comments accusing me of being a horrible person to be really annoying and a turn off.
My two cents.
Oh and I am 40 pounds lighter with 20 more pounds to go until my BMI is in the normal range. Cholesterol is 160, down from 220. My skin is clearer and I have more energy. But best of all, I feel more compassionate toward other living creatures and the planet... which I now realize is the key to happiness for me.
Thanks Ed!
Stories like this are very common in my local vegan group.
Different for everyone. Obviously it should all be evidence based, but I went vegan because of the people calling out my inconsistencies without caring about how I felt. We need both.
Went vegan and as a nice side effect my digestive issues I'd been having for several years stopped. Actually stopped losing weight. Mind you: at this point the only animal products I was eating was eggs and a little dairy and fish.
My problem with the health angle is that we all tend to have "cheat days" and from time to time we like to treat ourselves to something we enjoy. If you see veganism as nothing more than a diet, then by slipping back to carnism you may feel that you are only hurting yourself which is far too charitable.
Same thing with environmentalism. All the staunch environmentalists I know still drive cars and take flights.
The ethical argument is quite simply a more compelling argument. We don't typically get an accidental "slip up" in our morals and try to rob or murder someone.
@@HowardWimshurstright. Many even becoming "ex-vegans" and going "carnivore". It's frustrating to see how loosely ppl use the word "vegan" like you can't just stop and go back to abuse ,murdering animals ?
Imo being vegan means a lot of responsibility and understanding the impact of your actions on other living beings in any activity you do. Just keep it to plant-based if for health and environment !
As usual, Ed, you nailed it with grace and reason. I am in awe of your ability to refute the insane excuses with such poise and dignity...and, of course, truth.
I went vegan after this ted talk when I was eating no fruit and all animals all day long! Thank you!
7:35 Bentham already proved this point hundreds of years ago. The quote is in the intro to animal liberation. (I’m sure Ed knows this, just pointing it out)
“The question is not, Can they reason?, nor Can they talk? but, Can they suffer?”
You're bloody brilliant Ed. Just fantastic. Thank you so much for what you do. Excited to read your book. The comment about the doctor does make me laugh... the Internet just enables people to just potentially make up any anecdote with no real evidence whatsoever. Just read Dr Michael Greger's book or look on his TH-cam channel and see the overwhelming scientific evidence that a whole food plant based diet is much healthier than eating meat. Keep up the fantastic work 👏
I first saw Ed's Ted Talk nearly two years ago and I went vegan instantly. That was the beginning of a new perspective towards animals for me.
When meat eaters see trees swaying in the wind, they think the trees are moving all by themselves
@ it isn't a joke they DO think that
@@ARKSURVIVOR879 Ha Ha!..Aye!
@ I'm sure things that you think are funny would have me rasing my eyebrow and questioning your logic like Mr. Spock
@ Hell is not funny..its Hell
@ just because we don't want animals killed in the trillions by other humans for a unnecessary reason doesn't mean we think ants are the same as human💀🤦
Hey Ed, my comment isn't so much related to this video but I'd like to see items added to your clothing line. I'm a vegan bodybuilder but there isn't any athletic wear specifically for vegan bodybuilders or athletes. I mean, I can wear athletic wear of any kind, but I mean athletic wear that says "vegan" or "plant-based" on it. Not to brag, but I'm usually the fittest person at my gym. I was wearing an Under Armor spandex shirt and I thought, "I wish this said Vegan across the chest, or down the side of the arm. Or perhaps, shorts or workout pants with the word Vegan on them. There's really nothing for us. I know a few other vegans who are bodybuilders and we use our looks to dispell the myth that you can't get big, strong, and rippped on a vegan diet. I really wish there was a clothing line for us so we could promote veganism in that way.
Vegan outfitters has some awesome vegan gym clothes, I have one with a gorilla that says “herbivore” I usually wear when I go climbing :) although they are casual fit so not sure if they’re what you’re after
Check out Hench Herbivore's channel, he has some vegan body builder clothing.
There is dude, GymCoffee recently gave the vegan rugby team free stash and its honestly great muscle fitting stuff targetted for fitness folk
Bro what do you take to get big? I've been trying but vegan food is so boring unless it's curry
You could do it to your own clothes. Maybe buy some clothes stickers (or whatever) and do it? I dunno, just thinking out loud but you have a very good idea.
That's the video that made me go vegan! Thank you so much Ed!
Lollol! yes, the GP one was hilarious. Thanks for the laughs, Ed :P
When we say to non vegans, that they shouldn't kill animals, they always come back with, 'well, it's okay, because it's for food'. I would say the same thing to them when they comment on why vegans eat plants. You don't kill a tree to get the apples. Plus fruit and veg don't have individual personalities the way animals do. No one thinks it's shocking when we see someone picking blackberries, but show slaughterhouse footage and people's faces change to that of disgust.
This!! ⬆️ Thank you!!
You should feel shocked when someone picks a fruit. Thats a child you are taking away.
@@svmlybsk Lol!
How do you know someone is a meat eater? Don't worry, they'll get defensive at the mere suggestion that they could make more compassionate choices.
How do you know when someone is a vegan? They will attempt to make everyone elses choices for them.
@@evilsbrother8247
Imagine that being an argument lol
Picture following scenario: Three strangers beat you up on the street, but of course you wouldn't want anyone to step in, because that would mean they would make choices for the attackers.
Oh I love your nonsense arguments. So easily debunkable.
@@evilsbrother8247 you proved the OP's point perfectly with that comment haha
@@MrMikner well, you would translate my comment that way if you had nothing logical or intelligent for response.
@@michaelmcgavin7106 i dream of the day some vegan extremist walks into a restaurant and starts yelling abuse at me or attempting to 'educate' my children or someone elses just because they think veganism entitles them to do so. Then you will see what happens when you try and force your beliefs onto people who dont stand for it.
im vegan and live with my dad. he wouldn't talk to me about going vegan at all for over a year. i begged him to just watch your ted talk and that was the final straw that got him to start taking steps to go vegan. he's been fully vegan for over a year now.
Great job Ed. You could probably do another 1000 videos on carnist comments on that video.
As for that comment about the doctor, I mean, most people over age 75 don't even know what "vegan" means, so they certainly aren't living the lifestyle.....veganism is much more prevalent among younger generations than older generations anyway; that "argument" is flawed in so many ways, and as Ed mentioned (and I was thinking too), it actually could mean the opposite of what the commenter was getting at....
Some people just like being trolls. Your work is great and important.
this!!!!😍
Well done, thank you Ed. Love to watch your videos. Greeting from germany
When you mention Rupert the Hamster you sound like a primary teacher schooling a class of biased, undisciplined omnivores. Love it
You are the kindest person even to those who don't deserve it so I absolutely love when we get this sassy and sarcastic side haha. You are the best human.
I agree, he is the best human I know of.
hahaha when Ed said "When they hit 74 then they drop dead" that made me laugh hahaha