It is an absolute dream to go on a back packed hunt like this. I love watching these videos so i can live vicariously through you guys. Hope you crush it on your sheep hunt!
Like the video, its awesome that you are going into this detail Jason. I go through a similar process for my hunts. Its almost the same in weight. I run between 25- 30 oz or 750 to 850 grams per day. The calories are about the same in daily intake. I have been tracking my caloric output with a monitor and a typical day of alpine backpack hunting runs at 5500 to 6500 calories per day in output. About 25-32 kilometres covered and 200-300 flights of stairs climbed. I don't try to carry 5000-6000 a day calories in food its prohibitive weight wise. I pretty much intend to lose the missing 2000 calories in weight over a hunt. I have got a full outfit of Kuiu gear now to try out. Its the first dedicated technical hunting gear I have bought in 15 years. Till now I have used alpine climbing gear because no-one really made fit for purpose light hunting gear of this quality.
That's pretty much what we've found, as well--you just can't effectively carry enough calories to make up for how many you burn. Great to see someone else doing the same homework we do, and would be curious to see what's on your menu!
Breakfast is Porridge or muesli high quality stuff with low GI extra dried fruit thrown in. Often I will not cook but eat from the bag. I will use whey protein powder or a good source of protein such as a bar or jerky cold at this meal. First stop to cook is around 10 am for coffee and glassing, dawn is hunting time. I sleep where I stop and move with all my gear. Midday is muesli bars nuts and cheese, usually a very high fat content cheese like Jarlsberg and venison salami with crackers. Evening meal is dehy mince and pasta with onions and dehy veggies chocolate or a sweet drink for dessert. My meals are modular. I can replace the mince with meat I have taken such as rabbits, fish, small animals. We have suppressors on our rifles here so noise is not so much and issue. On longer trips 2 days plus I take protein powder to ensure I get a heap of protein at least three-five times a day. On extended 10 day trips I find people neglect protein its essential to replace the damage connective tissue and avoid weakness.
Well we're going to sneak one last cold sheep hunt in. Average temp here now is about -15 celcius. I'm going to put this Kuiu gear to the test....again.
instagram.com/p/BMM9lBtBTZa/?taken-by=bryce_bekar No legal rams this weekend, thanks for the great gear though. Can't wait for the Canadian distributor so I can get some of the wants, got all the needs for now.
I think it’s funny how he hunts all these beautiful animals and most likely has plenty of meat he could make jerky out of yet he still takes jack links beef jerky!!
Ever have any issues with the cheese not being refrigerated for 5-10 days? I just went and got the same cheese as you have in this video at 1:43...doing a 6 day trip, hope the cheese lasts not being refrigerated.
Jason and Brendan haven't gotten sick so far, but for legal reasons, we should probably point out that we are not necessarily recommending that anyone follow this example, just that we're showcasing what Jason does on his hunts.
Great video. Now can you show us how you fit that massive amount of food in your pack with all of your gear? I'm assuming you're using the 7200 to fit all of that? Your food bags alone are the size of the 3200.
Alessandro - it's difficult to estimate how many calories you'll need, but in general, you won't be able to carry enough food to meet them on a hunt like this where you might burn 4-6000 calories in a day of hard effort. So packing foods that are as calorie-and-nutrient-dense as possible is key. There is a formula that the military came up with for estimating calorie burn during hiking with a pack, but it doesn't cover resting--just effort. If you're interested in this, contact customer service and ask to be put in contact with Blaise.
Question is, how do you fit all of that in your pack along with all the other essential equipment? I have a large pack and still I wouldn't be able to fit all of that in there
Yes--because he knows what he likes, and also the calorie content. Jason's getting more and more into designing his own nutrition for hunts, to be most effective with his training regimen.
KUIU Ultralight Hunting awesome thanks for letting me know. I also went back and looked at my pack it's a icon 5200 I believe one of the first ones out can I put a newer smaller pack on that frame or are they built different now
Hey Jake, the new packs are designed for the newer frames. However, depending on the version of the pack you have, there may be an adapter that could work. Give Customer Service a call at 855-367-5848 and they can get detailed information on what version you have, whether it's possible to adapt, and if so, what you need.
You're asking us as a company? I mean, it's a small portion if we try to serve everyone in the office ;) For Jason, it's a pretty good dinner. But no matter what you eat, you're going to be in calorie deficit in the mountains.
take the mountain house out put them in good zip locks, still work great and you lose right at 4 OZ per one and save lots space! cut around 6 lbs off!!!!
+AJ Franks tested it at home first of course, but pour the water in let it sit just like normal. be little more careful with it but but it works and every pound counts. bring extra zip locks or 2 as well, just in case!
I know this is an old thread but I am packing for a sheep hunt and considered the advice to remove the foil bags. I really don't mean to be a toad and second guess but removing foil packages will save space but weight savings are not near 6lbs for 24 mountain house meals. Its more like 1.1 lbs. To me, the the protection and heat retention of the foil package and its utility as a cooking/serving container outweigh the space/weight savings gained by removal. That said, a pound is a pound... 4 oz seemed high so I weighed a variety of 2-serving serving packs and the foil packs weigh under an ounce. Propaks weigh about 0.75 oz. The package on the largest 2 serving meal I had weighed 0.84 oz. For 24 meals the propaks would weigh about 1.12 lbs.
Our prices have actually come down slightly from when we launched, because we can get volume discounts from our fabric suppliers now--we pass that savings along to our customers. We also have a complete skin-to-shell product line for the budget-conscious hunter called Teton; check out the launch here: th-cam.com/video/TS_mbks0R_Y/w-d-xo.html and the product line here: www.kuiu.com/teton-collection/
@@kuiuultralight Shoss how much you know about science. Humans have adapted and evolved over tens of thousands of years to be more efficient and mentally clear I n a fasted state. Once the body depletes glycogen stores (48 - 72hrs), it enters ketosis and is fueled by fats/ketones. It's been shown that ketones do beneficial things for the brain, inducing profound mental clarity, and fasting has a myriad of benefits. I do a seven day water fast twice a year while hunting and have always been more successful, but be sure to tell me otherwise,. Ha!
Yes, we've done quite a bit of research into this area, as a matter of fact: th-cam.com/play/PLMCdEtsWgBPLCgQpPD8rujJZZ-C6Eh7hk.html We worked with the UC Davis Health Sports Medicine program to produce this series on optimal adaptations for hunting. Ketosis/fat adaptations was one of the areas we explored. For some hunts, you might get away with a day or two of fasting, but for a ten-day backcountry sheep hunt, where you're burning something like 8000 kcal/day, there's not enough fat reserves in the human body to last. So we worked on a program to optimize metabolic flexibility: fat burning below aerobic threshold while retaining the ability to burn carbs when higher intensity efforts are needed. Coupled with a targeted diet, you can be very efficient with the food you bring into the field. Sadly, Jason passed away during this project and we were unable to continue, but the pieces that are there are cool. If you're into this stuff, you may find this series interesting!
@@kuiuultralight th-cam.com/video/4UkZAwKoCP8/w-d-xo.html Mark Mattson of John's Hopkins University on fasting. Fascinating talk if you have a bit of time.
It is an absolute dream to go on a back packed hunt like this. I love watching these videos so i can live vicariously through you guys. Hope you crush it on your sheep hunt!
Yes sir. Start saving
I know this is an old video, but it would be nice to know serving sizes on Fritos, almonds, cheese, etc.
Like the video, its awesome that you are going into this detail Jason. I go through a similar process for my hunts. Its almost the same in weight. I run between 25- 30 oz or 750 to 850 grams per day. The calories are about the same in daily intake. I have been tracking my caloric output with a monitor and a typical day of alpine backpack hunting runs at 5500 to 6500 calories per day in output. About 25-32 kilometres covered and 200-300 flights of stairs climbed. I don't try to carry 5000-6000 a day calories in food its prohibitive weight wise. I pretty much intend to lose the missing 2000 calories in weight over a hunt. I have got a full outfit of Kuiu gear now to try out. Its the first dedicated technical hunting gear I have bought in 15 years. Till now I have used alpine climbing gear because no-one really made fit for purpose light hunting gear of this quality.
That's pretty much what we've found, as well--you just can't effectively carry enough calories to make up for how many you burn. Great to see someone else doing the same homework we do, and would be curious to see what's on your menu!
Breakfast is Porridge or muesli high quality stuff with low GI extra dried fruit thrown in. Often I will not cook but eat from the bag. I will use whey protein powder or a good source of protein such as a bar or jerky cold at this meal. First stop to cook is around 10 am for coffee and glassing, dawn is hunting time. I sleep where I stop and move with all my gear. Midday is muesli bars nuts and cheese, usually a very high fat content cheese like Jarlsberg and venison salami with crackers. Evening meal is dehy mince and pasta with onions and dehy veggies chocolate or a sweet drink for dessert. My meals are modular. I can replace the mince with meat I have taken such as rabbits, fish, small animals. We have suppressors on our rifles here so noise is not so much and issue. On longer trips 2 days plus I take protein powder to ensure I get a heap of protein at least three-five times a day. On extended 10 day trips I find people neglect protein its essential to replace the damage connective tissue and avoid weakness.
Good stuff!
Will come in handy for my NM Desert Sheep hunt in Oct
This is awesome, thanks Jason. Unfortunately hunting season is over in 12 days up here in the Yukon. I'll be able to use this next year.
Hmm...two days to pack for ten more days of hunting? Sounds possible to us :) Hope you had a good season!
Well we're going to sneak one last cold sheep hunt in. Average temp here now is about -15 celcius. I'm going to put this Kuiu gear to the test....again.
Let us know how it goes!
instagram.com/p/BMM9lBtBTZa/?taken-by=bryce_bekar
No legal rams this weekend, thanks for the great gear though. Can't wait for the Canadian distributor so I can get some of the wants, got all the needs for now.
Nice!
I think it’s funny how he hunts all these beautiful animals and most likely has plenty of meat he could make jerky out of yet he still takes jack links beef jerky!!
Ever have any issues with the cheese not being refrigerated for 5-10 days? I just went and got the same cheese as you have in this video at 1:43...doing a 6 day trip, hope the cheese lasts not being refrigerated.
Jason and Brendan haven't gotten sick so far, but for legal reasons, we should probably point out that we are not necessarily recommending that anyone follow this example, just that we're showcasing what Jason does on his hunts.
I have one left out on the counter in original vacuum sealed package....going to see how it looks in 5-6 days and try it.
Great video. Now can you show us how you fit that massive amount of food in your pack with all of your gear? I'm assuming you're using the 7200 to fit all of that? Your food bags alone are the size of the 3200.
Stick around...that exact process is going up in a day or two! It is definitely going in a 7200.
Nice video! How do you know how many calories you need? Do you have any mathematical formulas for estimating calorie needs? Thanks
Alessandro - it's difficult to estimate how many calories you'll need, but in general, you won't be able to carry enough food to meet them on a hunt like this where you might burn 4-6000 calories in a day of hard effort. So packing foods that are as calorie-and-nutrient-dense as possible is key. There is a formula that the military came up with for estimating calorie burn during hiking with a pack, but it doesn't cover resting--just effort. If you're interested in this, contact customer service and ask to be put in contact with Blaise.
@@kuiuultralight thanks for your reply! Those are amazing informations! Thanks
@@kuiuultralight I sent the email! Let me know if it’s arrived ! Thanks
@Alessandro haven't seen anything yet. Shoot it directly to BlaiseD(at)kuiu.com
@@kuiuultralight thanks again for your kindness!
Question is, how do you fit all of that in your pack along with all the other essential equipment? I have a large pack and still I wouldn't be able to fit all of that in there
We'll post a followup in a few days--we're already on it!
The hunting trip won’t kill me but all that junk food will surely take me out.
When I guided, we supplied all the food for the clients hunt, is this just a preference to bring your own food?
Yes--because he knows what he likes, and also the calorie content. Jason's getting more and more into designing his own nutrition for hunts, to be most effective with his training regimen.
That’s awesome! Will he be doing or has he done a video on his training regimen?
th-cam.com/video/QqGERlAuzos/w-d-xo.html Here's the playlist!
Jason, we miss you.
I love my icon pro 3200 great pack. Are you coming g put with a gun holder or how do y'all strap them to your pack
Here you go: www.kuiu.com/hunting-backpacks-packs/kuiu-pack-gun-holder/86003.html?dwvar_86003_color=Phantom&cgid=pack-system#start=23
KUIU Ultralight Hunting awesome thanks for letting me know. I also went back and looked at my pack it's a icon 5200 I believe one of the first ones out can I put a newer smaller pack on that frame or are they built different now
Hey Jake, the new packs are designed for the newer frames. However, depending on the version of the pack you have, there may be an adapter that could work. Give Customer Service a call at 855-367-5848 and they can get detailed information on what version you have, whether it's possible to adapt, and if so, what you need.
What size mountain houses are you taking? The pouch or 2.5 servings?
The dinners are the 2.5 serving packets, while the breakfasts are the single serving Pro Packs.
KUIU Ultralight Hunting are you full after a 2.5 serving for dinner?
You're asking us as a company? I mean, it's a small portion if we try to serve everyone in the office ;) For Jason, it's a pretty good dinner. But no matter what you eat, you're going to be in calorie deficit in the mountains.
I'm not sure how common they'd be in the states... but if you want naturally high calories per ounce- Macadamias are ridiculous
could settle for walnuts
Rest easy bro 🙏🏼
take the mountain house out put them in good zip locks, still work great and you lose right at 4 OZ per one and save lots space! cut around 6 lbs off!!!!
How do you heat them up in the bag after you do that? Thats some crazy weight savings!!!!
+AJ Franks tested it at home first of course, but pour the water in let it sit just like normal. be little more careful with it but but it works and every pound counts. bring extra zip locks or 2 as well, just in case!
Thats awesome it wont melt the bag! Does it make the food puff up more because it isnt vacuum sealed?
I know this is an old thread but I am packing for a sheep hunt and considered the advice to remove the foil bags. I really don't mean to be a toad and second guess but removing foil packages will save space but weight savings are not near 6lbs for 24 mountain house meals. Its more like 1.1 lbs. To me, the the protection and heat retention of the foil package and its utility as a cooking/serving container outweigh the space/weight savings gained by removal. That said, a pound is a pound...
4 oz seemed high so I weighed a variety of 2-serving serving packs and the foil packs weigh under an ounce. Propaks weigh about 0.75 oz. The package on the largest 2 serving meal I had weighed 0.84 oz. For 24 meals the propaks would weigh about 1.12 lbs.
You should give death wish instant coffee a go 300mg of caffeine per packet to get yah goin
#beastmode
Not one healthy item brother 😢
i very like kuiu clothes !!! but now i can not afford them ((((
Our prices have actually come down slightly from when we launched, because we can get volume discounts from our fabric suppliers now--we pass that savings along to our customers. We also have a complete skin-to-shell product line for the budget-conscious hunter called Teton; check out the launch here: th-cam.com/video/TS_mbks0R_Y/w-d-xo.html and the product line here: www.kuiu.com/teton-collection/
Good grief. That's all junk food🤦♀️
This seems extremely unhealthy. How is this guy so ripped!? Must be the sheep meat
Just bring water, less to carry you'll be fine.
The ultimate outcome of this approach is that by the end, the guide will be carrying YOU, so it's kind of a win overall.
@@kuiuultralight Shoss how much you know about science. Humans have adapted and evolved over tens of thousands of years to be more efficient and mentally clear I n a fasted state.
Once the body depletes glycogen stores (48 - 72hrs), it enters ketosis and is fueled by fats/ketones. It's been shown that ketones do beneficial things for the brain, inducing profound mental clarity, and fasting has a myriad of benefits.
I do a seven day water fast twice a year while hunting and have always been more successful, but be sure to tell me otherwise,. Ha!
Yes, we've done quite a bit of research into this area, as a matter of fact: th-cam.com/play/PLMCdEtsWgBPLCgQpPD8rujJZZ-C6Eh7hk.html
We worked with the UC Davis Health Sports Medicine program to produce this series on optimal adaptations for hunting. Ketosis/fat adaptations was one of the areas we explored. For some hunts, you might get away with a day or two of fasting, but for a ten-day backcountry sheep hunt, where you're burning something like 8000 kcal/day, there's not enough fat reserves in the human body to last. So we worked on a program to optimize metabolic flexibility: fat burning below aerobic threshold while retaining the ability to burn carbs when higher intensity efforts are needed. Coupled with a targeted diet, you can be very efficient with the food you bring into the field. Sadly, Jason passed away during this project and we were unable to continue, but the pieces that are there are cool. If you're into this stuff, you may find this series interesting!
@@kuiuultralight th-cam.com/video/4UkZAwKoCP8/w-d-xo.html
Mark Mattson of John's Hopkins University on fasting. Fascinating talk if you have a bit of time.