Propane tech here , you can use about 1/4 the amount of pipe dope you used . Just enough to cover the threads. and get 2 pipe wrenches to ensure the fittings are tight,The threads are tapered and seal the tighter they are. And some dawn in a spray bottle will work as a leak solution . Other than that good job!
Kudos Fearless Rambler for sharing this valuable tutorial on LPG gas line installation! C4H8 is the perfect family gas for all your propane accessories! Your step-by-step guide is incredibly helpful for those of us looking to bring that clean and efficient propane heat into our spaces. Your expertise and tips truly make it seem like a manageable DIY project. Thanks for empowering us to take control of our off-grid heating needs. Keep those informative videos coming!
Thanx for you comment and idea, with a little research this is what I found out, plus or zone regulations required black pipe for gas (ore yellow flex pipe) above ground. Is black pipe better than galvanized for gas lines? The difference is that galvanized pipe is coated with zinc, while the black pipe is not. Black pipe is best used for gas lines, not for water lines because it rusts easily, while the galvanized pipe is the safer pipe to use in water lines, but it cannot be used to convey gas. You do not want to use galvanized pipe for gas because of the galvanized coating. Over time pieces of the galvanized steel will flake off and clog your gas regulators and burner units. Never mix galvanized and black iron or where they touch corrosion will be accelerated. I also had to paint the black pipe when outdoors due to rusting, so I used black grill paint, Rust-Oleum 249310 Automotive BBQ & Stove Spray Paint
Hello I am new here I am doing the same I am buying shed to make a tiny home too put on my 5.09 acres land you gave me so many Ideas I will be Leaving 1st of September to my land in Ozarks Mt. in Mo
Great video, thank you for taking the time to make and post it! Very helpful and clear! Question: souldn't the sediment trap be downstream of the valve?
Martin shows the sediment trap before it gets to the manual shutoff valve leading up to the heater (see page 12). So I placed it where the installation manual shows it. It has worked well for us, but see your local codes before installing the gas line and heater. They may require a different configuration. Have a great day. propanedepot.ca/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/Martin-MDV-Installation-Manual-2018.pdf
Awesome video, thanks so much for making it. What state are you in? I've got my own mountain retreat in Colorado that I need to redo my propane lines in. Also need to replace the heater, stove and fridge, and move the fridge from a shed outside into the kitchen. I now feel that I can do this thanks in part to watching your video. Much appreciated!
Just started paying for some land in Kentucky. Currently looking at some of the cabins and all. Want to solar electricity/generator as it would cost about 50k to run the power line to my property. Gas does sound good for heat
My solar set up works good. It allows me to run an electric frig from April to Oct with no eclectic bills, we a truly off grid. I don't stay there in the winter. Thnx for the comment.
Use a 3/4 x1/2 tee or elbow Use a drip on the end so you can bleed the line add a cap on the end or a Nipple and cap then you can bring it from 3/4 to 3/8 also Or you van use a 3/4 to 3/8 or 1/2 to 3/8 tee or elbow. Reducer cuppings no other reducers are allowed . excellent job . make sure you spray fittings to test with soap ands water or use gas leak detector .
They recommend 1/2 inch to allow for expansion and available room in the pipe to create gas in the coldest months. In Alaska this room necessary because propane will turn back into a liquid state at minus 20°f depending on how the wind blows.
Need that 1/2” for a majority of the line to be able to get enough volume rate supply from the tanks. The longer your supply line, the lower the rate of BTU supply. You can see that chart on the tag of the flex line how much it drops off by pipe diameter and run length.
i use pink teflon, pipe dope always left me with leaks. i do have decent luck with teflon and dope combined tho, so i do that for critical things. pink does gas, water, and large pipes, so only need to carry 1 color... for basically anything.
You’re exactly like my dad…anyway…. Does your regulator have a 1/2” outlet or 3/8”? My current set up with the same heater from tank to heater: single lp regulator to 3/8” to 1/2” CSST running about 15’ ft to 1/2” iron pipe to 1/2” valve 3/8 adapter fittings to stove. And I cant get the pilot to ignite. No leaks in the line. I’m wondering if maybe I need 3/4” gas lines for higher pressure…thoughts?
Thnx for the complement, I have a 3/8. 1/2 gas line should work with a LPG stove, but tank size could matter. Surface area in the tank could be the problem.
Your regulator is stuck or faulty. Bang on it while no pressure is going to it. I have same issue happen every winter after my regulator has sat unused. Plus purging takes a lot longer than you think it will. I have to purge from the heater for 2-3 minutes holding down my pilot knob.
Hi Fearless Rambler. I saw your video about propane. I have an off-grid home that uses propane from a 400lb propane tank for a stove, dryer, bbq, and most recently a furnace. It seems the furnace does not get enough gas to stay on when the furnace kicks on while using the BBQ or stove. I was thinking of adding a y brass adapter to the tank and attaching two 2-stage pressure regulators at each end and attaching the furnace gas to one and the rest of the home to the other, but I'm not sure this is the best solution. Do you have any insights as to what is the best solution? Any help or guidance is apprecaited. Thank you!
Something quickly came to mind is your stove burner ports are setup for natural gas and not LPG. Your 400 lb tank should have enough surface area to allow for proper flow for most multiple LPG applications. A 100 gal/420 lb propane tank should be good enough for all of your cooking and heating needs, as well as multiple appliances. Depending on the amount of propane you use, you may want to install more than one of these cylinders, or possibly even a larger one. LPG grills can suck up a lot of gas flow. RV regulators also have a tendency of going bad and restricting flow. Oftentimes, it's the internal diaphragm that breaks. It is said that a Two-stage propane system regulators are designed to ensure consistent delivery pressure and efficient operation. These regulators are particularly adept at minimizing the supply pressure effect and accommodating a significant amount of droop, which is the variance in delivery pressure from no flow to maximum flow. The two-stage design allows for a steady pressure output, even as the propane tank's pressure decreases, which is crucial for maintaining safety and performance. For your Idea of using multiple regulators, I have not tried that. Hope you have luck with that. A (home) residential application will require a low pressure regulator which reduces the gas pressure to 6 ounces (10.5 inches water column). This low pressure regulator will be located on or near the main supply tank to the home, motor home, or camper. So you might want to calculate the required flow needed to operate you applications at the same time. Your main regulator might not allow enough flow to meet your needs. Using a RV two-stage regulator, the first stage drops the vapor pressure to approximately 10 to 15 psi, and the second stage further reduces operating pressure to 11 inches of water column. Hope this helps, if this did not, still have a great day.
I we live in a camper and we took out the refrigerator with gas and electric well now we do not need that line for that refrigerator but we cannot use the gas until we shut off and turn off and stop the guest from coming into that line for the refrigerator
@FearlessRambler I don't live off grid, but I do use all the ideas you guys have for off grid living. I stopped using my electric central heat and use 3 dyno glo propane wall mounted heaters instead. Saves us about 400 dollars during the winter months off the electric bill alone and keeps us toasty warm.
I understand that a 30# Propane tank (7 gallons) runs around 30hrs at 20,000 BTU. Our Shed is well insulated so we don’t run the heater all the time. Usually, to break the chill off in the morning. The fuel consumption is .926 lbs/hr. We did not use a whole 30# tank throughout the fall. If we ran it throughout the winter, I would install two 100# tanks. Have a great day.
I just don't trust these LP pressure regulators that don't even have a 0-3 psi gauge as part of it. I WANT to know exactly what the LP pressure is. I added a "T fitting" so I could add the low psi gauge and monitor the pressure. I set mine at 0.5psi with the heater set on Max output.
I worked on aircraft in the navy aka Hornets! My hearing sucks! Yes it would have been nice with no music, but ole boy talked loud enough for me to hear! Try again troll
sorry, hope you got something out of it, we are just DIY armatures passing on some info to those who want it. Have a great day. Hope you find a video that meets your need and you can work on your project.
It is only two hours away to get propane, I designed this project so it feels that it's not off grid, though no cell, spring water and solar makes it feel like home.
Thank YOU!!! for this video. This just the video I needed to watch. Getting ready to add a small three brick wall heater in my trailer.
Have fun with you project and I hope it goes well, have a great day
Can't wait to follow your off grid adventures!
Thank you for the Video. Great Job!
love the shot of the trees
Fall is always as time of the year, but I appreciate the heater. Have a wonderful day.
Propane tech here , you can use about 1/4 the amount of pipe dope you used . Just enough to cover the threads. and get 2 pipe wrenches to ensure the fittings are tight,The threads are tapered and seal the tighter they are. And some dawn in a spray bottle will work as a leak solution . Other than that good job!
Thanx for the proper usage and the advise. Have a great day
Thanks for taking the time to make this video. Well done!
My pleasure! Hope it helped out. Have a great day.
Great work George!
Kudos Fearless Rambler for sharing this valuable tutorial on LPG gas line installation!
C4H8 is the perfect family gas for all your propane accessories!
Your step-by-step guide is incredibly helpful for those of us looking to bring that clean and efficient propane heat into our spaces. Your expertise and tips truly make it seem like a manageable DIY project. Thanks for empowering us to take control of our off-grid heating needs. Keep those informative videos coming!
We will be installing propane soon in my canning room so this helps so much!
you welcome, have a fun project
I accepted your offer to take a drink every time you said "1/2 inch". I watched the video 3 times. Now I'm hammered. Thanks, Fearless Rambler!!!
Lol, I think to get hammered, you only need to watch it once, but thnx for the views. Have a great day
awesome job. love your place very cozy looking
Thank you! 😊 Have a wonderful day
Great job George!
Great video!! I can't wait to follow your journey on your other channel. Heading over now to subscribe
Super Great Video Fearless Rambler 👍😃😃
Fearless Rambler you be Extremely Careful with that Propane Bro PLZ 👍😃 Awesome Video Bro 👍😃 I can't wait until MONDAY BRO I'M EXCITED 🤣👍🤣
There is a lot of great information here. We would have going with 1/2 inch as well and probably made the same mistake.
Thank you, was very interesting and educating!
You're welcome, it's fun to learn new things.
Nice video! Next time use galvanized piping for outdoor . Cheers
Thanx for you comment and idea, with a little research this is what I found out, plus or zone regulations required black pipe for gas (ore yellow flex pipe) above ground.
Is black pipe better than galvanized for gas lines?
The difference is that galvanized pipe is coated with zinc, while the black pipe is not. Black pipe is best used for gas lines, not for water lines because it rusts easily, while the galvanized pipe is the safer pipe to use in water lines, but it cannot be used to convey gas.
You do not want to use galvanized pipe for gas because of the galvanized coating. Over time pieces of the galvanized steel will flake off and clog your gas regulators and burner units. Never mix galvanized and black iron or where they touch corrosion will be accelerated.
I also had to paint the black pipe when outdoors due to rusting, so I used black grill paint, Rust-Oleum 249310 Automotive BBQ & Stove Spray Paint
Good Morning Fearless Rambler 👋👍😃
This is great!
Hello I am new here I am doing the same I am buying shed to make a tiny home too put on my 5.09 acres land you gave me so many Ideas I will be Leaving 1st of September to my land in Ozarks Mt. in Mo
Please, if time permits, provide sources for materials. Thanks.
Great video, thank you for taking the time to make and post it! Very helpful and clear! Question: souldn't the sediment trap be downstream of the valve?
Martin shows the sediment trap before it gets to the manual shutoff valve leading up to the heater (see page 12). So I placed it where the installation manual shows it. It has worked well for us, but see your local codes before installing the gas line and heater. They may require a different configuration. Have a great day.
propanedepot.ca/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/Martin-MDV-Installation-Manual-2018.pdf
Awesome video, thanks so much for making it. What state are you in? I've got my own mountain retreat in Colorado that I need to redo my propane lines in. Also need to replace the heater, stove and fridge, and move the fridge from a shed outside into the kitchen. I now feel that I can do this thanks in part to watching your video. Much appreciated!
Just started paying for some land in Kentucky. Currently looking at some of the cabins and all. Want to solar electricity/generator as it would cost about 50k to run the power line to my property. Gas does sound good for heat
My solar set up works good. It allows me to run an electric frig from April to Oct with no eclectic bills, we a truly off grid. I don't stay there in the winter. Thnx for the comment.
Use a 3/4 x1/2 tee or elbow Use a drip on the end so you can bleed the line add a cap on the end or a Nipple and cap then you can bring it from 3/4 to 3/8 also Or you van use a 3/4 to 3/8 or 1/2 to 3/8 tee or elbow. Reducer cuppings no other reducers are allowed . excellent job . make sure you spray fittings to test with soap ands water or use gas leak detector .
Nice video 👍👍
Thank you 👍
They recommend 1/2 inch to allow for expansion and available room in the pipe to create gas in the coldest months. In Alaska this room necessary because propane will turn back into a liquid state at minus 20°f depending on how the wind blows.
Thank you for the insight, have a great day.
Hey Fearless Rambler you still having A Video Monday Bro? I can't wait to watch 👍😃
Thanks for the video, lots of great info. What did you use to underpin your cabin? It looks fantastic!
What regular are you using?
Need that 1/2” for a majority of the line to be able to get enough volume rate supply from the tanks. The longer your supply line, the lower the rate of BTU supply. You can see that chart on the tag of the flex line how much it drops off by pipe diameter and run length.
Thnx for the info, great tip.
Great Vid! whereabouts is your cabin? I'm in Arizona and land is hard to come by and not as pretty.
Its in Utah up by Monte Cristo
i use pink teflon, pipe dope always left me with leaks. i do have decent luck with teflon and dope combined tho, so i do that for critical things.
pink does gas, water, and large pipes, so only need to carry 1 color... for basically anything.
You’re exactly like my dad…anyway….
Does your regulator have a 1/2” outlet or 3/8”?
My current set up with the same heater from tank to heater: single lp regulator to 3/8” to 1/2” CSST running about 15’ ft to 1/2” iron pipe to 1/2” valve 3/8 adapter fittings to stove. And I cant get the pilot to ignite. No leaks in the line. I’m wondering if maybe I need 3/4” gas lines for higher pressure…thoughts?
Thnx for the complement, I have a 3/8. 1/2 gas line should work with a LPG stove, but tank size could matter. Surface area in the tank could be the problem.
Your regulator is stuck or faulty.
Bang on it while no pressure is going to it. I have same issue happen every winter after my regulator has sat unused. Plus purging takes a lot longer than you think it will. I have to purge from the heater for 2-3 minutes holding down my pilot knob.
Question : you said you had to machine your dual regulator I was wondering where you got a dual regulator can one for a camper work ?
always hold back with two wrenches when tightening the fittings ..
Hi Fearless Rambler. I saw your video about propane. I have an off-grid home that uses propane from a 400lb propane tank for a stove, dryer, bbq, and most recently a furnace. It seems the furnace does not get enough gas to stay on when the furnace kicks on while using the BBQ or stove. I was thinking of adding a y brass adapter to the tank and attaching two 2-stage pressure regulators at each end and attaching the furnace gas to one and the rest of the home to the other, but I'm not sure this is the best solution. Do you have any insights as to what is the best solution? Any help or guidance is apprecaited. Thank you!
Something quickly came to mind is your stove burner ports are setup for natural gas and not LPG. Your 400 lb tank should have enough surface area to allow for proper flow for most multiple LPG applications. A 100 gal/420 lb propane tank should be good enough for all of your cooking and heating needs, as well as multiple appliances. Depending on the amount of propane you use, you may want to install more than one of these cylinders, or possibly even a larger one. LPG grills can suck up a lot of gas flow. RV regulators also have a tendency of going bad and restricting flow. Oftentimes, it's the internal diaphragm that breaks. It is said that a Two-stage propane system regulators are designed to ensure consistent delivery pressure and efficient operation. These regulators are particularly adept at minimizing the supply pressure effect and accommodating a significant amount of droop, which is the variance in delivery pressure from no flow to maximum flow. The two-stage design allows for a steady pressure output, even as the propane tank's pressure decreases, which is crucial for maintaining safety and performance. For your Idea of using multiple regulators, I have not tried that. Hope you have luck with that. A (home) residential application will require a low pressure regulator which reduces the gas pressure to 6 ounces (10.5 inches water column). This low pressure regulator will be located on or near the main supply tank to the home, motor home, or camper. So you might want to calculate the required flow needed to operate you applications at the same time. Your main regulator might not allow enough flow to meet your needs. Using a RV two-stage regulator, the first stage drops the vapor pressure to approximately 10 to 15 psi, and the second stage further reduces operating pressure to 11 inches of water column. Hope this helps, if this did not, still have a great day.
@@FearlessRambler thank you so much for your guidance!
@@cesararellanes6188 Your welcome
I we live in a camper and we took out the refrigerator with gas and electric well now we do not need that line for that refrigerator but we cannot use the gas until we shut off and turn off and stop the guest from coming into that line for the refrigerator
More room with that electric only frig. That's why I used only an electric plus you don't have to vent it out. Thnx for the comment.
Thanks. What regulator is that? Have a link?
I will have to look it up, got it off of amazon
Lol you could just use a 5 ft bbq regulator stainless steel line out the wall directly to the tank. Been doing it this way for years.
Nice tip
@FearlessRambler I don't live off grid, but I do use all the ideas you guys have for off grid living. I stopped using my electric central heat and use 3 dyno glo propane wall mounted heaters instead. Saves us about 400 dollars during the winter months off the electric bill alone and keeps us toasty warm.
You said 100lb tanks 4 foot tall...and u used 40 or 60lb tanks.....will 100lb tanks work ?
The 100# tanks will work wonderfully, but they are heavy to move around.
They should have had a 1/2 inch fitting to begin with...ugh.
What regulator is that?
Cant remember, but I will head up this week and check for.
Perfect 👌
Thanks 😄
Do you propane for heat during the winter????
We don't go up during the winter, but it keeps us nice a warm during the cool fall.
@@FearlessRambler what is the consumption like on the propane?
I understand that a 30# Propane tank (7 gallons) runs around 30hrs at 20,000 BTU. Our Shed is well insulated so we don’t run the heater all the time. Usually, to break the chill off in the morning. The fuel consumption is .926 lbs/hr. We did not use a whole 30# tank throughout the fall. If we ran it throughout the winter, I would install two 100# tanks. Have a great day.
@@FearlessRambler that helps a lot thank you.
I just don't trust these LP pressure regulators that don't even have a 0-3 psi gauge as part of it. I WANT to know exactly what the LP pressure is. I added a "T fitting" so I could add the low psi gauge and monitor the pressure. I set mine at 0.5psi with the heater set on Max output.
Hey
No bushings .
Thnx for the hints and comments, have a great day
LGP does not exist unless you're talking about golf.
Love the golf, have a great day on the course
Too much music and too loud. Couldn't complete watching.
I worked on aircraft in the navy aka Hornets! My hearing sucks! Yes it would have been nice with no music, but ole boy talked loud enough for me to hear! Try again troll
sorry, hope you got something out of it, we are just DIY armatures passing on some info to those who want it. Have a great day. Hope you find a video that meets your need and you can work on your project.
So you modified a regulator. Not everyone can do that The usefulness of this video stopped there.
Didn't modify the regulator, just built a mount for a cabin and installed the lines per code. Have a great day.
So you misunderstood the video…
Sorry. You are not 'off-grid" if you are running to a hardware store for propane.
It is only two hours away to get propane, I designed this project so it feels that it's not off grid, though no cell, spring water and solar makes it feel like home.