Black Tank Valve is HARD to Open

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  • @RVRepairSolutions
    @RVRepairSolutions ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Water. I tell customers to fill their tank half way before using it. Personally, I drain my tank then use my shower hose to add water with the tank valve open just to help push those floater down. Once drained I fill again to halfway. No issues as of yet. I had a customer that would keep their grey tank open while draining the black tank. Complained of a smell from the sink. Was a good chuckle while educating the customer.

  • @anthonyrosa4388
    @anthonyrosa4388 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The way you explained everything with the visuals as well my friend well done you are an awesome teacher thank you

  • @KarlRuegg
    @KarlRuegg 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    There's a third possibility. Manufacturers tend to coil cables that are too long in a tight radius. Use a fiber optic camera to look inside the underbelly. If you see that the cable has a tight radius, cut and shorten it or re-route it for less friction.

  • @trekingusa104
    @trekingusa104 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good info Todd. As a profesional Bicycle mechanic I was aware about cable and what to use and not. I agree with you about not to use oil on the cables. I always enjoy your tech tips.

  • @bchboy1206
    @bchboy1206 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I bent my black tank valve rod which also caused gouges in the rod! Between the rod not being straight and the groves catching it was really hard to get it moving. I wiped the rod down, straightened as good as I could, smoothed with sand paper, wiped down rod again and viola!!! It worked!

    • @NationalRVTrainingAcademy
      @NationalRVTrainingAcademy  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      great

    • @donaldarvin8506
      @donaldarvin8506 ปีที่แล้ว

      My rod and handle pulled completely out

    • @JaniceTDesigns
      @JaniceTDesigns ปีที่แล้ว

      @@donaldarvin8506Hey! Just happened to me. What did you do?

    • @Mojo32
      @Mojo32 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@JaniceTDesignsYou'd need to replace the valve. You could probably replace just the cable and reroute it, but the fact is you'd need to take off the underbelly of the RV anyways to access, so at this point you may as well replace the whole valve (which comes with a new cable, etc.), then you get fresh gaskets with valve too.

    • @janicettravels
      @janicettravels 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      So, I did whole handle piece. Was difficult but worked. THEN, a couple of weeks ago, my whole black tank fell off. Ooops! New problem. 😂

  • @clnyegaard3358
    @clnyegaard3358 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very nice and concise explanation. Thanks for sharing this helpful information.

  • @michellehernandez9020
    @michellehernandez9020 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hey Todd, love the videos and have learned a lot. I have an in-line Valtera bladex black tank valve under our toy hauler and I can hardly open/close it. I don't see a way to access the inside of the valve without taking the pipes apart. If flushing the black tank doesn't remove what is blocking the valve, is it ok to run a black tank hose from the exit opening and try to thread it and flush that way?

  • @JeffinTD
    @JeffinTD ปีที่แล้ว

    Two things I’ve found helpful- Try to let a few hours go by between “introducing” solids and dumping.
    Second, get a cap with the garden hose type port and attach a quarter turn valve. When you go to dump get the stinky slinky laid out, and before you take the cap off hold the slinky under the quarter turn valve and open it slowly. Once nothing comes out, you know you can take the cap off without stink sploosh.

  • @noeleenfalkner4557
    @noeleenfalkner4557 ปีที่แล้ว

    I got it open admit it was tight, but got it then all the stuff is clear and gone, and water clean. sprayed the valve with silicone spray really well and will continue to spray if you tell me ok thats what i did and it ran very well thanks for your video really valuable it is closed all the way out and the wand did the job well

  • @carlmorgan2227
    @carlmorgan2227 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    One thing I have started doing is every time I empty my tank is after I close it is put about a gallon of fresh water in the tank and add a cup of gain liquid detergent in, helps with the smell and keeps everything nice and lubed and flowing.

    • @Theistliecatcher
      @Theistliecatcher 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yeah i liked that and the smores lol

  • @mikeehrhart9488
    @mikeehrhart9488 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great tip Todd!

  • @joewest826
    @joewest826 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What if the valve doesn't open all the way and you just get a trickle when you try to empty the black water tank? We had a technician come out and back flush the system and he said that it's not solids or a blockage. He said the valve isn't opening enough to allow anything but liquid through at a very slow rate. Thanks for any advice you can give.

    • @staciepierce1499
      @staciepierce1499 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      See he doesn't address it. I think my valve is disconnected from the pully

  • @KrisBrown-g3w
    @KrisBrown-g3w 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Mine is the grey water tank. It won't close completely off. And yes, it's the dreaded cable style. Is there any chance you think it's blockage or possibly the medal tube at the handle may be bent just enough to not allow the handle to be pushed completely in ?

  • @donkiml5805
    @donkiml5805 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I use a white lithium grease. Worked fine but sounds like I shouldn't.

  • @brieninsac
    @brieninsac 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I spray my release valves every time they're used with a silicone based lubricant.

    • @TJ-qz6hr
      @TJ-qz6hr 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      👆this

  • @coraneibarger9036
    @coraneibarger9036 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My camper sat for 5 years before I bought it with the cable valves open. Now I'm not able to close them. Can I loosen them back up somehow to close them?

    • @NationalRVTrainingAcademy
      @NationalRVTrainingAcademy  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      you can try adding some dry lubricant to the cable pull. if not you may have to replace that service valve.

  • @scottdawson9467
    @scottdawson9467 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You just had to show corn in there lol

  • @markphillips7655
    @markphillips7655 ปีที่แล้ว

    My 2600RB Grand Design's black tank handle is frozen. I watched a video via 2krazykampers on how to replace it, but still hoping that is not necessary - and it says you have to purchase the the whole waste valve system, although you can pull the cable from the new unit and replace it rather than pulling the waste valve.

  • @denniskwasnycia1950
    @denniskwasnycia1950 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Stuck open is one thing, what about having a full load and the valve is stuck shut. How do you fix this? I managed to get mine open and flush it out, but is there a way to avoid this? When it was stuck closed, I could pull the handle out, but the valve would not open. This is a direct handle to valve, no cable.

    • @mikemiller9119
      @mikemiller9119 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You put vegetable oil down the toilet. It lubes the valve door and will keep it from jamming. You can also do it with your grey water valves as well.

    • @takeitallin6882
      @takeitallin6882 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I have the same question Dennis... just this weekend my grey valve got stuck shut (and remains shut). The handle moved with normal force and didn't feel abnormal in its movement but no grey water exiting. I am wondering if the cable broke or perhaps came loose. (No previous issues with this prior). Thanks for any advice. bg

    • @denniskwasnycia1950
      @denniskwasnycia1950 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@takeitallin6882 I did eventually get the valve to open some and ran a snake to help open it up and brake up any solids that may have been there. I then dumped many gallons of hot water down the toilet to flush along with using the internal flush system. It did work well after. I did see where if you have access to the valve body, where the valve pull out rod comes out, or valve slide, is. You drill a small hole in that part of the valve and spray lube in that area and then plug the hole with a screw. It may be an option to making sure the valve does not get dry and stick.

    • @22howards
      @22howards 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@denniskwasnycia1950 when making the hole, ensure the hole is only as big as the straw on the spray can (this hole is made closest to the actuator rod exit/entrance) then ensure a short screw is used! I use the 3in1 side seal lube. Works great! Change a black tank valve one time (even if it’s your own RV) and you won’t want to do that chore again.

    • @denniskwasnycia1950
      @denniskwasnycia1950 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@22howards Thanks Chip!

  • @jeromep
    @jeromep 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yes, I do like the shirt.

  • @jillconnell5305
    @jillconnell5305 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can I use CRC Power Lube Industrial High Performance Lubricant With PTFE? Can’t tell if that a “Dry” as you mentioned. Thank you !

  • @TaroFields
    @TaroFields ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How do i know if the valve is NOT opening even though the hand lever does get pulled?

    • @janchampine1899
      @janchampine1899 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      When you empty the tank and pull the lever and nothing comes out, it's NOT opening.

  • @billyholifield8898
    @billyholifield8898 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My fresh water valve is staying open when I hook up the city water it fills up my freshwater tank what do you think the problem is

    • @NationalRVTrainingAcademy
      @NationalRVTrainingAcademy  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It depends on what type of fresh tank fill you have. A common issue is a back flow issue from you Water pump. It's supposed to act as a one way check valve. but it doesn't always. you can alway get a check valve and put it inline with your water pump or change out the pump.

  • @johnnylightning1491
    @johnnylightning1491 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for the poop on the poop tank! Keep the good stuff coming Todd.

  • @danielwolfe6131
    @danielwolfe6131 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have a Open Range 373rbs with 2 black tanks and they work very smoothly but I have 2 gray tanks and their valves will stick closed. The valves are above the corplast, I have tried after dumping to add vegetable oil or food grade mineral oil. Any suggestions

  • @StaceyBean-d8j
    @StaceyBean-d8j ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What about it not opening!

  • @markstench4470
    @markstench4470 ปีที่แล้ว

    What happens if my valve is very hard to open close on my grey tank?

  • @deniseblair8039
    @deniseblair8039 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My valve is closed shut and won’t open. The rod pulls open but the valve stays shut. I’m afraid of what I need to do. Any advice?

  • @mikemiller9119
    @mikemiller9119 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Who says put vegetable oil on the cable? No one, that’s who. The vegetable oil is for the valve itself. Yes, poor vegetable down the toilet to lube the valve door. Also, if you’re going to give tips, how about finishing the tip. You introduced the toilet paper in the valve, so how do you get it out now?

    • @jeffreyparris6548
      @jeffreyparris6548 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The vegetable oil for the valve door works.

    • @jeffreyparris6548
      @jeffreyparris6548 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You tube probably has a how to video on cleaning a black tank.

    • @lauravictorious4670
      @lauravictorious4670 ปีที่แล้ว

      Actually there is a YT channel where that's exactly what they suggested. Pour vegetable oil down the sink to lubricate the gray valve.

    • @belandbroc
      @belandbroc 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      yep, I was scratching me head for the reason, glad you caught it, oil goes in the tank tomorrow!

  • @johnr5545
    @johnr5545 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks god bless

  • @SMButler
    @SMButler 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    My valves are above the underbelly cover. Have to drop the corplast to get to them.

    • @Squirrel-zq6oe
      @Squirrel-zq6oe 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's unusual.

    • @Squirrel-zq6oe
      @Squirrel-zq6oe 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I wonder which make and model you own.

    • @SMButler
      @SMButler 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Squirrel-zq6oe Heartland Big Country 3155RLK. The handles are in the driver's side bay with the city water feed point. The valves are remote up by the tanks and above the underbelly.

  • @jeffstram5666
    @jeffstram5666 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    My Problem is the ELECTRIC Black Tank Valve is stuck CLOSED. I can't drain the tank, so I can't really remove the valve to clean/lube/unstick it. Does anyone have experience with this problem?

  • @somedayistodayrv
    @somedayistodayrv 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Serious but at the same time amusing video. Nice job in explaining the possibilities. Thank you for all the info. Take care. Dave.

  • @Theistliecatcher
    @Theistliecatcher 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The poopy is sticky

  • @diverm2371
    @diverm2371 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Someone told me to use wheel bearing greese ?

    • @Hugo-Hernandez
      @Hugo-Hernandez 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Do not use wheel bearing grease because that as well attracts dirt and grime.

  • @staciepierce1499
    @staciepierce1499 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    But she said open. Not close....

  • @CardelliFamof8
    @CardelliFamof8 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Solids, enough said 💩

    • @staciepierce1499
      @staciepierce1499 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      He's still didn't answer the question of why they won't open