Why Robert Downey Jr. as Dr Doom is so Controversial

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  • @MaxMihh-zh8xh
    @MaxMihh-zh8xh 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +133

    It’s 2026. Me and my fiance sitting at the movies watching this movie and mid movie my fiance asks “wait, is that iron man? Didn’t he die? Why is he evil?”

    • @AstralLaVista
      @AstralLaVista 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      Ugh I can imagine this conversation happening all over the world

    • @Ambiguous-fx4vc
      @Ambiguous-fx4vc 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Then watching Thanos then cable. Then ff Then cpt America. It'll be fine. I don't have to explain anything to my wife.

    • @Ambiguous-fx4vc
      @Ambiguous-fx4vc 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You gotta explain alot of stuff to ppl who.dont watch mcu and.know everything. Nothing new

    • @frankyfeson1781
      @frankyfeson1781 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Doctor Doom RARELY takes off his mask because his face looks like a pizza so for all we know Marvel simply cast RDJ for his acting and nothing else

    • @MaxMihh-zh8xh
      @MaxMihh-zh8xh 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@frankyfeson1781 lol. You really think they poured millions just for his acting and not to show his face? 🤣

  • @_davidboxing
    @_davidboxing 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +169

    I don’t hate it, but I don’t like it either.
    I wanna see the *_REAL_* Victor Von Doom done right on-screen. Latveria, full of poise and imposing, science + magic, and all that!

    • @r-171
      @r-171 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      You can’t talk about the ‘Real’ Doom before you even see a proper teaser.
      This wouldn’t be the first time a controversial acting choice is made that turns out to be amazing;
      Just look at Chris Evans when they auditioned for Captain America, after already playing Johnny Storm.

    • @ellchipper6389
      @ellchipper6389 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      We’ll probably get that after the soft reboot. I think it’s a perfect way to end the saga and to have rdj go from being a hero to a villian is so poetic. Although afterwards I think a more latveria rueling doom would be made.

    • @Madchad6969
      @Madchad6969 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      If Pedro pascal can do mr fantastic rdj can do Dr doom

    • @Kbtofly
      @Kbtofly 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ayo lil bro HOW DO YOU KNOW THAT THEIR NOT GONNA DON'T THAT?!!😭🙏🙏🗣️🔥‼️

    • @Dingalsodong
      @Dingalsodong 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      I agree, it's gonna be either really distracting, becouse RDJ IS Iron man, or he will be the variant and then we wont ger proper Doom like we wished all these years

  • @Jiren913
    @Jiren913 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +92

    Kinda ridiculous to pretend like the only person who could play dr doom is rdj

    • @hkspoon123
      @hkspoon123 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      There already 2 Dr Doom and all of them fail. RDJ may actually be the perfect fit.

    • @Jiren913
      @Jiren913 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

      @hkspoon123 I'm sure he could be a fine dr doom but he already played iron man. It just takes away from Victor von dooms character.

    • @FeetFart6262
      @FeetFart6262 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      rdj is pretty short, but he could look taller in the movie

    • @Ambiguous-fx4vc
      @Ambiguous-fx4vc 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Let him cook.

    • @Vexer70
      @Vexer70 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      hes the only person who could have created this much hype and publicity

  • @TheDrexLord
    @TheDrexLord 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +261

    To be fair, thanos didnt really have a lot of build up, he just sat on a chair and said he would do it himself. All his development and character was in Infinity war. The build up was in the stones. You just have to explain what happened to kang and why doom is a threat over kang.

    • @_davidboxing
      @_davidboxing 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +34

      Well, that and they pretty much hinted where the direction of the MCU was going in Phase 1 with the post credit Thanos smirk.
      Hardcore fans/geeks knew what to expect, and fed the casuals with what to expect.

    • @joshbrosh6626
      @joshbrosh6626 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      ​@@_davidboxingeven now hardcore fans especially comic book fans know exactly where they are heading with the MCU
      As soon as this casting was revealed hardcore fans already know which comic book they gonna take from
      They arleady know secret wars is the collision of all the universes and a soft reboot

    • @paramoosestudios
      @paramoosestudios 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      This is exactly what I was thinking

    • @dr.wolfstar1765
      @dr.wolfstar1765 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      All the kings got eaten by ants because kangs are all wussies

    • @samuelforce7883
      @samuelforce7883 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Also, did really anyone pre infinity war care for Thanos? Also once doomsday comes out with rdj having essentialy 15 years of build up it'll be massive

  • @Damination-yj6ti
    @Damination-yj6ti 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

    Bringing back the Russo's
    Bringing back Rdj
    It just seems like marvel is getting desperate to get back to the pre-endgame era

  • @The_Marvelist
    @The_Marvelist 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    This actually feels like a joke, like a stunt they’d pull or smth like that. Like the fake Civil War title swap. Like come on

  • @lizzydakid
    @lizzydakid 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Why do they keep fucking up Dr Doom? I feel like the character is straight up cursed

  • @mamad_rma7
    @mamad_rma7 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +65

    Cilian Murphy was so fit for the character of Dr doom

    • @Maxtor-ve5nu
      @Maxtor-ve5nu 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      cilian murphy is an intellectual, he ain't gonna do comic movies

    • @monochrome_soft9472
      @monochrome_soft9472 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Maxtor-ve5nu he literally played scarecrow in the dark knight trilogy dumbass

    • @jaykayverse8548
      @jaykayverse8548 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      ​@@Maxtor-ve5nu He did do a zombie movie

    • @Caleebo1826
      @Caleebo1826 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      @@Maxtor-ve5nudidn’t he play scarecrow

    • @gratermccheesy9650
      @gratermccheesy9650 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      If I'm not mistaken he auditioned for batman just to be loved so much they cast him as scarecrow.

  • @velociraptor4you3291
    @velociraptor4you3291 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +32

    TBH, RDJ _wasn’t_ my personal first choice for Dr. Doom, _but_ I’m going to keep an open mind about this.

    • @ajthapa3587
      @ajthapa3587 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Who was your first choice?

    • @velociraptor4you3291
      @velociraptor4you3291 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@ajthapa3587 Someone like Benedict Cumberbatch (this was before he started playing Dr. Strange) or Bryan Cranston, perhaps even Michael Shannon.

  • @TheGardenSamurai
    @TheGardenSamurai 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Bro we wanted literally anybody else than RDJ

  • @Andrew-Bastin
    @Andrew-Bastin 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    Typically Doom wears a mask all the time so that RDJ is playing him might not come up, also under the mask he is horribly scared so he might not even look like RDJ

    • @Marc-rw3dd
      @Marc-rw3dd 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      you're being silly if you think they'd cast rdj and not use his face

    • @Andrew-Bastin
      @Andrew-Bastin 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Marc-rw3dd you’ll be surprised

    • @Ale-dd3ek
      @Ale-dd3ek 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Marvel gave nano machines helmet to all characters so that they can show their face anytime

  • @coleg9145
    @coleg9145 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

    It's funny. I am a pretty massive fan of Doom and when movies kept making him either a mutant or trash-bag alien, I did at some point question "How is this so hard? He's like Iron Man, but evil and more intelligent."
    But that was something I'd use to explain Doom on a surface level. What scares me is the MCU is SO "quippy" and self-aware now (argueably because of RDJ and his success as portraying Tony Stark). Doom better not be busting one-liners. That's literally the opposite of his character. I genuinely don't think I've ever seen him make a joke in the comics. I'll take it as a good sign if...
    1. RDJ keeps the mask on or has an absolutely horribly disfigured face
    2. Doom is imperious, brilliant, and threatening in previews

  • @waynemessner9691
    @waynemessner9691 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +71

    The only way this works is if they alter his appearance. No one wants some Multiversal bullshit about an Evil Tony Stark calling himself Dr. Doom.

    • @alexventose7931
      @alexventose7931 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      All they need to do for this to work is for him to NEVER, UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCE, REMOVE THE MASK.

    • @Jadepeanut
      @Jadepeanut 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      I think completely opposite of this. It is crazy to not see him as iron man. A variant Tony Dr Doom makes more sense. Otherwise they should just cast someone else as dr doom

    • @Septicshites
      @Septicshites 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      dooms face is deformed in secret wars so im sure it will be in avengers secret wars. hell have the mask on most of the time

    • @andrewhall9330
      @andrewhall9330 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@alexventose7931he obviously is going to tho it's so ass

    • @nimpsonkinkson1924
      @nimpsonkinkson1924 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@alexventose7931 idk about that, a marvel movie where RDJ doesnt show his face sounds unlikely

  • @The_Fridger_CZ
    @The_Fridger_CZ 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    "Who else would you want as dr. doom than rdj?" CILLIAN MURPHY, ADAM DRIVER, ...

    • @Ale-dd3ek
      @Ale-dd3ek 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Some tall dude doing the stunts, then some good voice actor providing the voice

  • @raedgonzalezspideyfanboy
    @raedgonzalezspideyfanboy 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +52

    That was crazy when Robert Downey JR is announce to be as Doctor Doom

    • @rhinuu045
      @rhinuu045 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      wowe!

  • @carterblake3410
    @carterblake3410 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +41

    honestly people was hoping he'll be ironman again but i'm giving rdj as dr doom a chance

    • @BennonNgosa
      @BennonNgosa 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You and me both

    • @spaghettinoodlesoup4510
      @spaghettinoodlesoup4510 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      For one thing, I'm betting he's barely going to take the mask off and is gonna have to rely on more body-mannerisms sort of acting so I'm betting it's going to be really different, kinda like Pedro Pascal with the Mandalorian

    • @NO0Kn0OK
      @NO0Kn0OK 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Deadpool is the new beginning. Hopefully peace will be restored

    • @MC_DOOM44
      @MC_DOOM44 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I like rdj i think he will somewhat nail the role but theres just better actors that just fit the dr doom personality better

    • @spaghettinoodlesoup4510
      @spaghettinoodlesoup4510 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@MC_DOOM44 True but given the current circumstances we now have, guess we just have to work with what we've got now and hope for the best.

  • @Omnigreen
    @Omnigreen 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +39

    Desparate move in WB and DCEU fashion. They already started building Kang and instead of just recasting him they got scared and desperate and tried to ride that RDJ hype wave again. How to ruin both great villains in one move. Stupid cash grab move.

  • @paakdisayaniyom
    @paakdisayaniyom 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I got the same feeling like back when they announced Jonah Hill is the new Superman.

  • @nicholasfaith8999
    @nicholasfaith8999 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I love RDJ, I love the MCU, I HATE this casting

    • @DiegoArrieta-ik5mt
      @DiegoArrieta-ik5mt 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      you dont think before you hate shit

  • @apedestrian3899
    @apedestrian3899 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    There are just so many options to play Dr Doom that would be great. Recycling Robert Downey Jr might just be one of the worst options you could have taken. This just comes off as desperate and tone deaf.

  • @srstriker6420
    @srstriker6420 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    I would have prefer Mads Mikkelsen or Cillian Murphy as Dr Doom and I guess you heard about the Masters of evil in Avengers 5 that Doom might be apart of.

    • @Vexer70
      @Vexer70 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      mads mikkelson was already the villian in dr strange sadly, he also wouldve been a great doom.

    • @srstriker6420
      @srstriker6420 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Vexer70Marsha Ali was Cottonmouth in Luke Cage, Prowler into the spider Verse and now Blade

    • @Vexer70
      @Vexer70 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@srstriker6420 ? what does that have to do with it

    • @zippymistletoe1272
      @zippymistletoe1272 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Nikolaj Coster-Waldau

    • @srstriker6420
      @srstriker6420 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Vexer70like how come he gets multiple roles in marvel while Mads Mikkelsen can’t?

  • @Robert-fr4it
    @Robert-fr4it 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    If its victor, he should be from the Fantastic Four First Steps universe. If its a tony variant, make him from another universe like the universe of the Illuminaty or the marvels credits or something different.

  • @blackfox00
    @blackfox00 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    Cillian .... It should've been Cillian Murphy

  • @sadakopilled
    @sadakopilled 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    i just don't understand why they had to replace kang's entire character, instead of just replacing him with another actor. i mean marvel is definitely *not* new to replacing the actors/actesses of their characters so i don't see why they would ditch a character who was teased to be the new big baddie of the mcu as if it's nothing...and i don't think most ppl will understand why tony stark's actor is playing a villain unless they saw the previous movies & series of the multiverse saga, and THAT'S why kang would have WORKED...

  • @claytonangotti1784
    @claytonangotti1784 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Wow, we still aren’t getting a real Dr Doom, how unfortunate

  • @94mikelfc
    @94mikelfc 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I have a feeling this is going to be kind of their take on the maker, but instead of being reed it will a version of Tony that went bad and there will be another actor to play another version of doom

  • @Rodj71
    @Rodj71 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I'm disappointed that he is coming back to play Dr Doom. They should have cast a newcomer to the MCU. This just seems so desperate of them sadly.

  • @wiiplaya25
    @wiiplaya25 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I'm gonna say it: They should have recast T'Challa and now, they should've recast Kang. My pick would've been John Boyega (for what its worth). There are reasons it can work, idwhi.

  • @olebogengthothela1191
    @olebogengthothela1191 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Wait. RDJ is good at disguising himself isn't he? Are they maybe going to put him under heavy make-up to change his appearance?

    • @iraford5788
      @iraford5788 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thats exactly what they are going to do.

  • @spacetimesystemz
    @spacetimesystemz 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Capitalising on Robert Downey Jr. as an actor. The studio knows he will bring in the money. That's why. Just follow the money. What ever the situation in any event, if something is a bit off, money is always involved.

  • @reygonzales2603
    @reygonzales2603 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Just killed iron man legacies

  • @edthekoreanbrit92
    @edthekoreanbrit92 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My MCU RDJ Dr. Doom Theory: Through body switching or another plot mechanism, Viktor is inhabiting the body of a Tony Stark variant from another universe. As a last resort after realizing that it’s the only way (Consulting Dr. Strange on all potential future outcomes)….They agree to do what was sworn never to be done(A detail we’ll soon learn of, potentially even with foreshadowing in upcoming releases): The Avengers download Tony’s “saved state” consciousness from F.R.I.D.A.Y. By means of either a spell being cast or in some way more analogue, they manage force Victor back into his own body by integrating Tony’s consciousness into his alter. This climatically peaks with the return of Iron Man joining the team to defeat Doom, perfectly wrapping up the multiverse saga in a velvet bow and inevitably given a soft reboot following down the road.
    - I also see a potential for them to declare OG Tony the anchor as a partial justification for The Avengers to make the tough choice.
    - I’m still on the fence as to how much of the source material will be applied regarding Reed Richards.

  • @MovieGasm
    @MovieGasm 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The first two avengers movies were excellent because of the story arcs and characters introduced in films leading up to it. These avengers will have to stand on their own in order to do anything special. We very little to look forward to so far.

  • @Qorvid20
    @Qorvid20 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You wanna talk controversial, look at them still using Sabra in Brave New World. She's been cotneoversial since her debut in 1980 and shes even moreso now

  • @anthonysmurthwaite6258
    @anthonysmurthwaite6258 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I viscerally hate this casting, what a terrible way to use Dr Doom, a complete waste

  • @deandredunbar9618
    @deandredunbar9618 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I think it's dumb and shows their hand. they are panicked. and their big decision. shoehorn rdj mackintosh the mcu lol. I knew it was coming. cap will be back too.

  • @CodexAdrian
    @CodexAdrian 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It felt very "break glass in case of emergency" ish. A cameo in Deadpool felt like this as well, tho no spoilers tho!

  • @nightwing4065
    @nightwing4065 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I wanted Ben Affleck or Cillian Murphy to play Dr. Doom, but I'm fine with RDJ. I'm gonna let Feigi cook.

  • @Random-qi3vv
    @Random-qi3vv 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Austin Buttler (if we want a younger doom) or Javier Bardem were my choices.

  • @jonr4164
    @jonr4164 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    i hate this and im only a casual fan of 40 yrs. MCU cherry picked characters and is now struggling to join the dots. i felt Avengers never had any synergy with the other franchises its why i never took any interest in it. It jus gets too complicated, even in the comics.

  • @milesmacy8788
    @milesmacy8788 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I give up on marvel. I thought Deadpool and wolverine would be their saving Grace, but after hearing this announcement it's pretty clear they have no more gas left in the tank. Here comes DC with James Gunn for the steal!!!!

  • @MOSMASTERING
    @MOSMASTERING 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I reserve judgement of all casting choices, because we were all shocked by Heath Ledger as the Joker.. and look how that turned out.
    I think even originally RDJ was not taken seriously and he turned out to be the most beloved actor in the entire series..
    So.. who knows what will happen with a great actor if put in great writing and directorial hands.

  • @Activation1111
    @Activation1111 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    ❓❓❓❓❓❓❓So you mean to tell me they can bring Robert Downey Jr. back,, but they still Can’t make a Blade movie? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 They can bring Robert Downey Junior (Iron Man) back from the dead,, to play a different different character. But they can’t recast T-Chala 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Still no black lead marvel film? Still No Blade movie? This is ridiculous 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 But not surprising. It most be really hard to make a black lead movie,, where the black man is in power. But Even if they did make a blade movie,, they probably would make blade a Simp for most of the movie,, or blade would Playing second fiddle to another (let’s say) character. It’s funny how Marvel can justify recasting characters. They can recast General Ross. But they cannot recast to T-Chala/King of Wakanda/Black Panther. How many years ago was Blade announced? It’s Absolutely hilarious and sad.

  • @kiko6217
    @kiko6217 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My take is we legit have no idea what role RDJ will play in any of this. We don’t know if he’s playing a variant, if he’s gonna be the “main” Doom. NO IDEA so just to jump and say it’s ruined it’s over JUST WAIT AND SEE.

  • @thomasstenson3706
    @thomasstenson3706 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This gonna make them so much money it's genius UNFORTUNATELY even if we dont love it we love RDJ he's arguably why it became what it became and we are all going to rush for the new avengers because of him

  • @michaelwilson2340
    @michaelwilson2340 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm surprised he hasn't been on the cover of AARP magazine yet.

  • @wrathoftheflyingspaghettim850
    @wrathoftheflyingspaghettim850 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    At first I rejected it but then I found out about the comic where they switch bodies. It's obvious why it's controversial but if people just inform themself instead of blindly complaining they wouldn't have so much of a problem.

  • @leogiroux6751
    @leogiroux6751 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You know these assholes at Disney are just going to say he's a Tony Stark from an alternate universe who went evil and calls himself Doctor doom instead of Iron man

  • @reginaldrivers553
    @reginaldrivers553 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Perhaps and maybe perhaps RDJ is a sort of Dr. Doom variant. I kinda find it hard to believe that he needs to return to the MCU for the money instead of focusing in other movie projects. It's a big surprise, even I didn't expect but wouldn't it be suitable if he returned as a Tony Stark/Iron Man variant instead? Just my opinion. He's a talented and successful actor, I think he'll do a good job as Victor Von Doom. What an amazing and unexpected development! Let's hope it pays off Marvel/Disney needs to deliver better movies and content for its loyal fanbase otherwise this ship will sink like the titanic. Thanks for the video, much success and keep up the good work.

    • @challenger516
      @challenger516 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Only poor people like you think having "certain amount of money is enough" lol. This is easy money for RDJ and he's going to save MCU's box office.

  • @theharbinger00
    @theharbinger00 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    It shows how lazy marvel is and unimaginative. This is stupid. LUKE EVANS would have been a better choice

    • @samuelforce7883
      @samuelforce7883 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Evidence? This has precedence in the comics. Stop speaking about things you have no knowledge about

    • @theharbinger00
      @theharbinger00 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@samuelforce7883 that's besides the point. Still lazy

    • @samuelforce7883
      @samuelforce7883 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@theharbinger00 why? It's a marketing decision and a smart one that isn't pulled out of their ass. That's the point.

  • @Vexer70
    @Vexer70 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I was so hyped idk why everyone else isnt. Rdj is a great actor and they have great writers and directors as well. Avengers 5 and 6 is gonna be epic.

  • @rillarude
    @rillarude 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Was honestly at the edge of my seat when I saw the title "Avengers: Doomsday" appear on my screen since Dr. Doom is one of my all-time favourite comic villains, such an interesting, menacing, and complex character. There were so many ideas racing through my mind when they said that they had "the perfect actor chosen for this role", and when the mask was taken off and I saw RDJ I almost punched my screen. RDJ is one of the most iconic CBM actors, and he had a legedary and fitting ending in the Endgame, the though of using the same actor for two different characters seems desperate and downright disrespectful to Iron Man's legacy in the MCU. In my mind Cillian Murphy would have been an amazing fit for this role, along others. Marvel knew the deep trench they were in, and they knew that the sheer sight of RDJ would raise the hype and interest into Marvel and their upcoming projects, but at what cost? However there is nothing I can do now except for pray that they don't ruin Iron Man's legacy and decimate Dr. Doom's character at the same time.

  • @QwkDrw84
    @QwkDrw84 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    "Who else would you want other than RDJ to play this villain?" LITERALLY ANYONE ELSE!

  • @eastonenroth2366
    @eastonenroth2366 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Well, you know what they say, beggars can’t be choosers.

  • @JMaster9877
    @JMaster9877 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    He's playing a character from a different Earth, not bringing back Iron Man from the dead a making him evil. How hard is it for people to understand

  • @TekkLuthor
    @TekkLuthor 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Schwarzenegger should be Doom. If he was younger

  • @brandonfly4611
    @brandonfly4611 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Im ok with this under one condition.
    It is not the infamous iron man. RDJ is an incredible actor with a lot of range, and I'm sure that he could kill this role. What concerns me isnt the casting itself, its the potential connection with Iron Man. If they try to make Doom this Tony Stark variant, its just a waste of the character. They need to do him justice and explore him in all of his nuances and complexities. We can have some internal conflict from Peter, but we don't need the character to genuinely be an alternate Tony Stark, in the same way that Johnny Storm isnt an alternate Captain America. Just let the casting be an easy way to make money, and don't try and make it an essential part of the story.

    • @petermj1098
      @petermj1098 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      RDJ is old short and frail.
      Dr Doom is physically imposing and an extremely handsome man. People constantly miss the point of Dr Doom as a character. No he is not just an “evil Iron Man”.

    • @brandonfly4611
      @brandonfly4611 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You are correct. He is not an evil Iron Man. I do not want an evil Iron Man. Downey is a chameleon when he is acting. He can dissapear into any character that he is playing. People seem to forget his talent due to the fact that he played hinself for ten years with Iron Man. If he works out a little bit and gets an amazing looking costume, downey will be great in the role.
      Besides, Doom barely takes off his mask, and when he does, he is horribly disfigured. People will certainly be able to tell that it is Downey, but it will not be distracting to the point of ppl still viewing him as Iron Man. I just want an authentic Doctor Doom rather than an Iron Man variant, as Secret Wars is maybe my favourite doom storyline ever.

    • @petermj1098
      @petermj1098 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@brandonfly4611 Dr Doom is not disfigured. He only has a small scar on his face. Jack Kirby even confirmed it.
      People don’t understand Dr Doom. Dr Doom sees himself as the perfect man. He sees himself as the perfect physical fighter, the perfect scientist and the perfect magician. The small scar on his face shows he is not perfect and he insecurely hides it behind a mask and hood because of it. Doom is an attractive man behind the mask but his perfectionism doesn’t make him see it.
      RDJ does not capture the “ideal man” Doom is as a character. He is a frail short 60 year old man.

  • @anthonysmurthwaite6258
    @anthonysmurthwaite6258 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    So many people getting back into Marvel because of this yet i as someone who liked or loved most of phase 4 and 5 have cancelled my tickets for Deadpool and Wolverine, and might never watch an MCU product again, they are completely clueless and so is anyone who thinks this is a good casting, bringing back RDJ makes the infinity saga worse as the main character of it has his arc weakened, it ruins the multiverse Saga because they clearly haven't prepared for this and weverything so far is less significant, and completely wastes the main villain of all of Marvel by using as an opportunity to get attention instead of telling the right story, casting a mediocre choice for Doom who has many distractions and baggage is a pathetic casting

  • @RIN88
    @RIN88 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    if RDJ is a not variant maybe he’ll end up at universe 616 and then people will think that iron man is alive or what, he will used that power or situation to get back at the avengers and defeat them

  • @cecleung
    @cecleung 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What If? Volume 9, Issue #1 from 2010. That's what they are going to do.

  • @heretotalkify
    @heretotalkify 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    He’s in GTA V as Cara Delevigne not Dr. Doom. He’s wearing her enchantress form like clothes over his suit.

  • @tjjordan4207
    @tjjordan4207 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Well, they basically said screw making sense, let’s just go crazy until we drain the well dry.

  • @arrozmundi82
    @arrozmundi82 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    There are so many other talented, actors that could make this role iconic, Mads Mikkelsen is who i would've chosen. I feel like a lot of people are lost in the high off of this shock announcement, because they like the idea omg Tony's friends ate gonna be so shocked and heartbroken, when the power of this reveal works better waiting to show it in the actual film. That way, the audience can experience the shock along with the heroes. This feels like it was only done, just to have a darth vader reveal moment. Darth Vader's revelation to Luke only worked, because the audience hears it with Luke, we experience the shock at the same time. If everyone knew that Vader was Luke's father before the character did, it wouldn't have that same power as experiencing the horror firsthand, with the protagonist. No doubt that the avengers will all have a "😱😭💔" moment, that's to be expected. It would've been so much better of they kept the identity a secret, and we discover it with the protagonists. I love RDJ as well, but why couldn't we have the REAL DR. DOOM, instead of a variant?🤦🏻‍♂️. I'm hoping THE REAL DOOM shows up, and looks at RDJ Doom, and says something like...."You're kind of like me, but inferior. There are no pretenders, only DOOM."

  • @NMbones98
    @NMbones98 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Honestly if the fantastic 4 is from a different universe coming over to the MCU I can actually see why Robert Downey Jr playing Doom would be just a variant that looks like tony stark instead of him being actual tony stark if that makes sense?

  • @ishaanbhattacharya9405
    @ishaanbhattacharya9405 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +63

    They made doom into a stark variant 😭

    • @thespidercrafter8547
      @thespidercrafter8547 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      We don't really know that yet. They could go down that route or they could keep him as Victor Von Doom, we do not know their plans yet.

    • @funkysam1345
      @funkysam1345 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      He's not really a stark variant. Or he might be a loosely associated variant.
      Here's the thing, my wishful theory is that they are creating a hybrid between victor backstory and a hint of stark.

    • @WereSquatch
      @WereSquatch 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      ​@@funkysam1345Any of that sounds awful. We wanted DOOM, not some multiverse bs excuse to bring back RDJ. This is a complete failure of a cast.

    • @hritviknijhawan1737
      @hritviknijhawan1737 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      He's not a Stark variant. The Russos announced him as Victor Von Doom.

    • @hritviknijhawan1737
      @hritviknijhawan1737 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@WereSquatch^

  • @Ant_370
    @Ant_370 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It's only controversial to the fans who just watch the movies/shows and don't read the comics.
    But they did 2 story lines where Tony Stark becomes Dr Doom when Tony was in college, he was roommates with Doom and he tricked Tony to help create a device that would swap there minds and Doom would become Tony Stark

  • @Kageofyoutube
    @Kageofyoutube 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So here’s the problem 1 of the questions is who else can play Doctor doom other than RDJ. There’s quite a few candidates, Oppenheimer he seems 2 have that coldness that Doom has and can pull off a cruel villain. If they wanna go a fanservice route why not Julian from the 2005 Fantastic 4 movies, have him reprise his role if Wolverine can come back as a variant y not RDJ as a Tony stark variant then, if Deadpool and Wolverine can bring back older actors 2 reprise they’re roles such as Wesley’s blade, Jennifer’s Electra hell even Chris Evan’s Johnny storm which is the same version from Julian’s doom universe why not bring him back 2 be Doom again? This move with RDJ being doom seems like a desperate move outta they’re hand 2 get old fans back that originally quit the MCU or took a break and this is coming from someone who was there when Iron man 1 was released.

  • @biashacker
    @biashacker 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    Bryan Cranston hmmmm...., that is a good idea Lewis.

    • @kid100music3
      @kid100music3 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Too old. Maybe could work if he was 10 or 15 years younger.

  • @Grand_Master12312
    @Grand_Master12312 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I think he can do it

    • @andrewhall9330
      @andrewhall9330 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Would rather see him back as iron man instead this is ass lil bro

    • @Grand_Master12312
      @Grand_Master12312 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@andrewhall9330 noooooooooo! Don't underestimate

  • @ginocerda3290
    @ginocerda3290 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Getting a chance to play the biggest hero AND villain is a chance no actor would pass up

  • @Zarkon619
    @Zarkon619 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    to be fair, thanos was also only in 2 movies, And some after credit scenes (and few lines in GoG)

  • @ArynWellspring
    @ArynWellspring 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The talking points about it feeling desperate isn’t really going to mean anything to the general movie goer. The movie will live and die by how good the movie is

  • @johnharris8696
    @johnharris8696 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Rdj is a great actor and was amazing as ironman but i dont want him as doom. Now doom will be joking around and have his mask off not the real doom.

  • @daneyraju8433
    @daneyraju8433 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I was exaggerating an instance in my mind thar RDJ doing the arm opening pose and shitting in his pant at the same time...with the watery shit sound 😂😂

  • @Nqoor
    @Nqoor 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Terrible idea. Should have been Kang.

  • @ukprince4544
    @ukprince4544 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The ONLY way this makes sense is that DOOM used his sorcery magic 🪄 mind control and switched body’s with Tony who became superior Iron Man while he’s been gone!💯

  • @Kanoog
    @Kanoog 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I don’t care what others think, it’s canon in the comics and it’s a massive move that can help correct the MCU. They don’t see the potential in this move they just wine about it instead.

  • @Ratiocinativefun
    @Ratiocinativefun 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Extremely desperate. Not even kind of, like SUPER desperate. Also Russo Bros kinda desperate as well. Their other films post Endgame haven’t done well. Not excited, I’m confused and a little like Scooby doo Huh?!?! Kinda lame. Desperation all around.

  • @TheOutlawed1000
    @TheOutlawed1000 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I can’t see myself not being distracted by him even if they keep his character the same.

  • @yourGrandma17
    @yourGrandma17 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This will either be really good or really bad

  • @Lenin-cq9ol
    @Lenin-cq9ol 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Marvel presents Marvel’s “What Fi…” what if Tony Stark became Dr. Doom

  • @chicagogr81
    @chicagogr81 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    As long as it's really Victor Von Doom and not a Tony Stark variant who becomes Doom, I'm good. Please, just give us the real Doom origin story and then go from there. I would sell my soul for a 6 episode Books of Doom series.

  • @jevinday
    @jevinday 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wait, he's playing Dr Doom in an avengers movie? I thought it was a F4 movie. Robert Downey Jr in an avengers movie is just weird

  • @nialldonnelly7217
    @nialldonnelly7217 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    while I love this casting I can understand why it is so controversial

  • @Earth-realm
    @Earth-realm 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wym he’s basically playing the evil magic version of tony stark.. no one else fits the role better than he does 🫶🏼💯

  • @epicdreamkid
    @epicdreamkid 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Y'all gotta stop acting up. As long as they don't revive the Tony that we knew, they can actually cook something crazy.
    There's a thing called Infamous Ironman which is a variant of Tony Stark that becomes Doom. They could simply be merging Doom and Iron Man in to one in order to simplify things and mayhaps even make the BIGGEST parallel in cinema franchise history. Seeing the legacy of Tony clash with the visions of corrupted version of Tony can make for a conclusive event that can definitely top Endgame. though the one thing missing here is the 10+ years worth of build-up. But hey only time will tell, all I'm saying is that this doesn't have to be the worst thing ever.

  • @JustinCarbaugh
    @JustinCarbaugh 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I didn't even like RDJ as Ironman cuz it's ironman and RDJ but The 2005 Fantastic Four movie had a better Dr. Doom than This already. Should have been someone else.

  • @Daddyhack2174
    @Daddyhack2174 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    IT IS RDJ playing Victor Von Doom.
    It is NOT Tony Stark becoming Doctor Doom...

    • @HercuLync
      @HercuLync 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      There is no way to not see it as Tony Stark becoming Dr. Doom. No matter what story they try to tell.

    • @Witteralywannahitdagriddy
      @Witteralywannahitdagriddy 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@HercuLyncwhat? he barely takes off his mask any ways and they announced themselves that he’s playing von doom

  • @littlebigbunnyrabbit9520
    @littlebigbunnyrabbit9520 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm a little concerned that they're not gonna successfully seperate RDJ and Iron Man to Doom. As of right now, nobody sees RDJ as Doom, so hopefully when the time comes they're able to successfully do it. RDJ has the acting chops to pull it off, so I guess it's all up to the script to give Doom an actual good adaptation.
    Also I'm really hoping they're not pulling some stupid Stark variant shit, Doom needs to be Victor. Another thing is, I hope they don't milk RDJ'S face. Keep him disfigured, give him the mask 24/7.

  • @ramonmoreno5513
    @ramonmoreno5513 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I’m so excited for dr doom in mcu 🔥

  • @kalebporter1529
    @kalebporter1529 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I bet he's gonna play a tony stark variant that's doctor doom and it will only be for doomsday and secret wars, and then the real doctor doom that will be in the fantastic four universe will come out, if not in the first fantastic four movie. I really hope I'm correct, I like the idea of rdj playing doom, but not the mainline doom.

  • @Kh4jiiT
    @Kh4jiiT หลายเดือนก่อน

    Aaaaaand they also completely whitewashed the character. If they did that with a black character the world would be in shambles.

  • @davidwhatsthatabout7404
    @davidwhatsthatabout7404 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love RDJ. He is the GOAT. But to have him become Dr Doom is stupid. I feel like it ruins the impact he did in endgame. It’s obvious a cash grab imo. If Disney wanted to have an RDJ/ Tony Stark like character, they should have hired Johnny Depp to be Dr Doom, just have him be a Tony Stark impersonator. Familiar but different. But I think it would have been 100x better if RDJ played as Uncle Ben to a Peter Parker variant that looks like Tom Holland.

  • @MSgt_0699
    @MSgt_0699 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It's controversial because fans will have to pretend that they are not looking at Tony Stark. It's the entire reason this never-ending MCU was always a mistake. They should have rebooted into an MCU2 after _End Game_ and began a new story. Actors get old. They move on. But now we get an MCU where Tony Stark and Doom are the same dude.

  • @SilvaNoworries
    @SilvaNoworries 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ngl Cilian Murphy is the call for Dr doom

  • @matthewsengendo6302
    @matthewsengendo6302 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This is the mcu equialant of the finger poke of doom

  • @goatbrook9065
    @goatbrook9065 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hey man, this can easily work and be amazing or it will fail and be a bad look. We will see, but im definitely gonna let them cook

  • @The_Vizo
    @The_Vizo 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I would like if that Tony and the avengers lost the battle with thanos. Tony survives and the rest of the avengers die or survive. Tony looses Pepper and Morgan. Tony will become hopeless and will become dr doom. He kills thanos but nothing good comes out of it. Kind of like the Nightmare timeline that Zack Snyder envisioned in DC.

    • @MartinMarsano
      @MartinMarsano 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      HE IS MEANT TO BE THE FREAKING FINAL BIG BAD OF THIS SAGA! He should be his own character, not just evil ironman!

    • @The_Vizo
      @The_Vizo 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@MartinMarsano Yes but RDJ is playing a Tony Stark variant. This is what I would like to have as a backstory for Tony Stark that turns into Dr Doom.

  • @Jeeshansameer2165
    @Jeeshansameer2165 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I Love RDJ But I Want Cillian Murphy As Dr Doom & I Loved A Scene Of Cillian Murphy Dr Doom Cs RDJ'S Iron Man

  • @hectorsaucedo8640
    @hectorsaucedo8640 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I don’t know who but not RDJ. It feels like all those Animated movies that cast untalented Actors over and over like Kevin and The Rock. Not that RDJ is untalented.