Great advice Steve. Very honest information here. Reasons why I haven't gone to bigger tires which I would love to have. (They look so darn cool!) Reasons are affordability but also the stress it puts on all the mechanical components of our machines. When do go bigger, 28s are my limit for the zforce. This video will have guys thinking twice about going too big. You have to have deep pockets and a wife that doesn't mind you spending your retirement income.
I have a 2" Perfex kit and 30" Swamp Force tires on my 1000 XL. It's more than enough for practical hunting and trail riding. Especially with small children. I wanted ground clearance more than I need major traction. Traction leads to breakage. RPMs lead to breakage. And portals require maintenance, and can be their own weak point.
Got 30s on the uforce 1000 and I ride some pretty extreme stuff.. Only smoked a belt cause had water in the belt box and was trying to pull a 88 Susuki Samurai out of some deep mud lol . Good times and great machine.
2022 800ex wet clutch. Still on stock 26 x 9 and 26 x 11 tires. Still stock clutch. I would like to go to 28 x 10 all the way around eventually, but I am waiting for the stock tires to wear. When it comes time my plan is to talk to you and see about a clutch. I'm thinking sometime next summer. We will see. Keep up the great videos, and Thank you for all the great info. You Rock.
I run 3 sets of tires throughout the riding season. The stock 27 Stags that came standard on the machine I run during the dog days of summer riding local trails. 27" Blackwater EVO's for early spring mud. And 29" SUNF (Bighorns knockoffs) for Drummond Island riding where I need a little added clearance climbing the rock walls. These are actually pretty nice tires. They are a tad heavier than Bighorns...but still light enough for 29's where it isn't over taxing my driveline and belt. Prior to the SUNF's I ran 30" CST RC's for tech and crawling. These were much heavier tires than anything else I've ran and probably accounted for 20% of the miles I put on the machine last year. I gave them up for the 29's. Everything else on my 950 is stock. No clutching....no tunes. I probably don't ride hard like a lot of people do. I'm in it for the long haul. I'm sitting at about 4200 miles on my machine with zero issues thus far. I'd like to be at 4500-4700 by the time I put it away for winter. I would luv to have an RNG clutch kit installed in it. Something to give it a little boost at mid range.....just not sure I wanna risk the issue free longevity I have going on so far. Great informative video RNG....I'm glad someone took the initiative to step forward and inject some honesty into the clutter.
SPOT ON, great topic, excellent presentation. From the extensive searches I've done, UTV's / ATV's do not have differential gear options like trucks, jeeps, etc. Want to run 40" tires without portals? Swap in differentials from a military HUMVEE, since they are designed for independent suspension.
@@R.N.GPerformance It seems like some company would manufacture aftermarket ring / pinion sets. The issue might be production costs vs. demand. They might end up being really expensive. Hopefully the clutch kit will be ok for my planned adventure, but it would be nice to have access to lower gears if my machine still struggles a little due to the amount of weight I plan on carrying in the machine & hauling in trailer. The more stress I can take off the cvt, the better.
Can anyone recommend some good trail tires and wheels for a 2024 UForce1000. I have the 2" liftkit I'm installing and have 1.5" and 2" wheel spacers ready to go. I'm wanting to go with 30". I like the System3 SB4 and Carnivore setup but not seeing the correct wheel size on Planet SxS. Thanks
Thanks for the great video and the great advice. I just bought one of these 800s and I was wondering what a good tire size would be to run on it thank you
Hi Steve, thank you for all videos! One option you're not talking about....! CForce 1000 stock 14 inch what happens when i change to 12 inch tyres like russian version? The Cf Thunder racing team use 26x9-14 in front and back! What do you think about this option? Thanks
Wow the haters are coming out of the woodwork that means you're doing a great job keep the good work up my friend take that as a compliment back in my day I used to call them cry babies
Great video, wish u lived in the great sate of Pa I would diffidently be coming to u for work👍 my Question to u is i have a new gen 2 950 sport and am gonna go up in size in tires to 29" there tusk megabites. I already have 4 of them in 29x9x14 do you think they would be ok to run all them all the way around on my machine, I know most people would run 4 ten inch all around.
I have a 2020 800 z force. would like to put a set of 30 inch tires on it. what size wheel spacer spacer would you recomend and would that tire size be ok.
Hey Steve, Think I asked this of you before, but I cant find your answer. 2015 z 800 Trail, stock tires 26x9 (and 11) x 14s can I do 29s without needing to change anything? bone stock now, slow speeds rocky terrain, Gonna add Hester Elka, but want to go up in tire size if I can before I order. Thanks man
Question 2022 you force 1000 can I re-clock the secondary with 28 inch tires and it do any good it’s very jerky right now and I’m trying to resolve some of that and if I can what settings on the clocking
Great and honest video man 👌 What would be your recommendation for a Cfmoto Zforce 950 4 seater ? 30s at max ? The machine would be completely stock apart from the tyres and not hardly driven
Great info! I’d also bet that CFMoto won’t cover driveline damage if you have over spec tires on your machine. With that said I’m staying with the stock tire size.
Hi bro. I have zforce 950 HO ex with stock tires (29 inches ) but i like so much maxxis carnivore 30x10x14 but i dont know if do installation or not. Your video confuse me. Mybe its better stay stock tire. Thanks. Happy new year.
No problem at all. Thank you. Nothing. But I do have clutch kits ready for them they are out there just not allot of them yet. . We been running our kits in Australia for a while now on those units. They should be coming here
I am running 42 on my 8inch and 4inch portals with no promises at all I have a badass belt and all highlifter lift kit and portals on my can am defender
First thing I did when I bought my used u force 1000 was chang the tires they had on it they had 32inch rockabilly s on it I dropped down to a 26inch black diamond on 12 inch rims just something I had laying around they work great
I have 30 rock a Billy’s on mine and they are heavy tire I couldn’t imagine the weight of a 34inch tire without some type of reduction. Heck my buddy has a can am maverick turbo Rr and they only come with a 32 lol.
Simple Question here.... if I never run above 25-30mph on trails, can't I just run my 2015 Zforce 800 EX with 30s in LOW gear and get "safe-ish" results? That should help, right?
@@thoroughbredautobrok pretty much. Because your just putting that extra load on to the wet clutch. The clutch in these are tuned too high for even stock tires. You won’t burn up a belt in these as easy as you would the wet clutch.
Let's put this way,I broke alot of shit wheeling my old jeep tj,by the end of building it I was running 4.88 ring pinion sitting on 35s bf Goodrich crawlers. Just saying
I can’t work out why my belt on my Uforce 800 is riding up high on the primary and secondary causing it to rub on the CVT case… 2017 with 5000k…. Is it the Dr P sliders I just put in or to much wear on the sheeves 🤔 could I shim the primary 🤔🤷🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️ this has been a long few mths of trouble shooting when time permits 😭
I got a Dayco XTX 2261 this time, the Gboost belt I ordered to suit also did the same. School holidays here in OZ, my buggy’s been out of action the last 2 times my daughters have come to stay 😂…. I’m a mechanic and get how it all works though this one has got me stumped.. I’m just now wondering if it’s a combination of wear on the helix and the wear pads it slides on and worn primary sheeves although all components look to be in ok condition… the belt is acting as if it is an inch to big.. I just wanna go out bush for a fish 😭😭😭
This machine has nearly 6000 hard Kms on it to date.. It is 40deg C most of the year round here and red hard hot dirt terrain, bit like mars 😂 It’s one machine that’s really been run in and tested to the extreme… It’s a testament to its manufacturer given its price and capability.. 👌👌👌 I just want it fixed 😭
The machine is an end Of year Uforce Hunter, looking at the Dayco belt chart, maybe the belt should be an XTX 2262… All the places I have been ordering from advertise the 2261 is the correct one.. The charts advertise the 61 for my machine and 62 for the Z series, is it possible I have the same cvt as the 800 z 🤔 The 2262 is a bit shorter
This is SideBySide not a Jeep Wrangler to put 35 and 37.. with stock gears theese are broken too, especially hill climbing.. just push a huge and broke...
Absolutely awesome. So many people don’t understand that changing one thing impacts everything else.
exactly and they need too
Great advice Steve. Very honest information here. Reasons why I haven't gone to bigger tires which I would love to have. (They look so darn cool!) Reasons are affordability but also the stress it puts on all the mechanical components of our machines. When do go bigger, 28s are my limit for the zforce. This video will have guys thinking twice about going too big. You have to have deep pockets and a wife that doesn't mind you spending your retirement income.
No doubt haha I agree
Thanks for your videos man. I'm glad you and Real Talk are keeping it real with the CFmoto machines.
Your welcome 🙏
I have a 2" Perfex kit and 30" Swamp Force tires on my 1000 XL. It's more than enough for practical hunting and trail riding. Especially with small children. I wanted ground clearance more than I need major traction. Traction leads to breakage. RPMs lead to breakage. And portals require maintenance, and can be their own weak point.
Best channel around. Great job Steve and the team!
Thank you 🙏
Got 30s on the uforce 1000 and I ride some pretty extreme stuff.. Only smoked a belt cause had water in the belt box and was trying to pull a 88 Susuki Samurai out of some deep mud lol . Good times and great machine.
yes sir 30s are the max i would go personally. awesome machine
2022 800ex wet clutch. Still on stock 26 x 9 and 26 x 11 tires. Still stock clutch. I would like to go to 28 x 10 all the way around eventually, but I am waiting for the stock tires to wear. When it comes time my plan is to talk to you and see about a clutch. I'm thinking sometime next summer. We will see.
Keep up the great videos, and Thank you for all the great info. You Rock.
Thank you 🙏. You will love a clutch kit for sure.
That's right BIG Tires break stuff 😂 learned that in the 90's when I worked auto mechanics ☮️❤️
I run 3 sets of tires throughout the riding season. The stock 27 Stags that came standard on the machine I run during the dog days of summer riding local trails. 27" Blackwater EVO's for early spring mud. And 29" SUNF (Bighorns knockoffs) for Drummond Island riding where I need a little added clearance climbing the rock walls. These are actually pretty nice tires. They are a tad heavier than Bighorns...but still light enough for 29's where it isn't over taxing my driveline and belt. Prior to the SUNF's I ran 30" CST RC's for tech and crawling. These were much heavier tires than anything else I've ran and probably accounted for 20% of the miles I put on the machine last year. I gave them up for the 29's. Everything else on my 950 is stock. No clutching....no tunes. I probably don't ride hard like a lot of people do. I'm in it for the long haul. I'm sitting at about 4200 miles on my machine with zero issues thus far. I'd like to be at 4500-4700 by the time I put it away for winter. I would luv to have an RNG clutch kit installed in it. Something to give it a little boost at mid range.....just not sure I wanna risk the issue free longevity I have going on so far. Great informative video RNG....I'm glad someone took the initiative to step forward and inject some honesty into the clutter.
Nice setup brother. Keep em coming. Band of brothers and sisters 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
Thank you
SPOT ON, great topic, excellent presentation. From the extensive searches I've done, UTV's / ATV's do not have differential gear options like trucks, jeeps, etc. Want to run 40" tires without portals? Swap in differentials from a military HUMVEE, since they are designed for independent suspension.
exactly buddy i wish we did have these options it wouldnt be hard to do i dont think
@@R.N.GPerformance It seems like some company would manufacture aftermarket ring / pinion sets. The issue might be production costs vs. demand. They might end up being really expensive. Hopefully the clutch kit will be ok for my planned adventure, but it would be nice to have access to lower gears if my machine still struggles a little due to the amount of weight I plan on carrying in the machine & hauling in trailer. The more stress I can take off the cvt, the better.
@@J_Calvin_Hobbes I agree 100 man.
I agree completely. I’m sure you’ve considered providing gear reduction kits, ring and pinions or portals.
i wish i had the means to make this stuff happen
Can anyone recommend some good trail tires and wheels for a 2024 UForce1000. I have the 2" liftkit I'm installing and have 1.5" and 2" wheel spacers ready to go. I'm wanting to go with 30". I like the System3 SB4 and Carnivore setup but not seeing the correct wheel size on Planet SxS. Thanks
Thanks for the great video and the great advice. I just bought one of these 800s and I was wondering what a good tire size would be to run on it thank you
great vid stevo, very informative and as always appreciate the honesty and integrity... ohh nice Slippers too bro !! 🤣🤣
thank you....... hahaha thanks
needed a refresher needing new reds for the moto thank ya sir
30 inch tires are all you need. Good video
I agree
9 pinion teeth, 34 ring teeth, should be 3.78:1 if anyone is wondering.
Hey what spacers and size spacers would you recommend on a cforce 1000 with a 30 inch tire on?
Hi Steve, thank you for all videos! One option you're not talking about....! CForce 1000 stock 14 inch what happens when i change to 12 inch tyres like russian version? The Cf Thunder racing team use 26x9-14 in front and back! What do you think about this option?
Thanks
I’m running 28 x 10x 14 you could run that if you like
I got rid of my CF Moto z950 how ex and purchased a Segway Villain sx10 72in wide. Do you have any advice on tire size with these units?
Just put 30s on my 2021 950 ho .. got any info how to get work better ..
Wow the haters are coming out of the woodwork that means you're doing a great job keep the good work up my friend take that as a compliment back in my day I used to call them cry babies
yes sir haters are really what grow the internet i guess haha
Great video, wish u lived in the great sate of Pa I would diffidently be coming to u for work👍 my Question to u is i have a new gen 2 950 sport and am gonna go up in size in tires to 29" there tusk megabites. I already have 4 of them in 29x9x14 do you think they would be ok to run all them all the way around on my machine, I know most people would run 4 ten inch all around.
Yeah they would be fine.
thanks, keep up with new video's
I’ve got a 2022 uforce 1000xl and looking for more clearance. 30’s on stock rims and a 2” lift safe ??? Thanks in advance
Yes it is. I do recommend a clutch kit tho www.RNgperformance.net
I have a 2020 800 z force. would like to put a set of 30 inch tires on it. what size wheel spacer spacer would you recomend and would that tire size be ok.
Hello there. Me personally i recommend the biggest tire if 28 on the z800 I also recommend 2 inch spacers.
Hi brother, I have a 21 cfmoto zforce 800 trail. I put a 29x11x14 on it. Do I need to have a lift kit on it.? I have enough clearance.
No you don’t my friend.
That's why I put 29" tires on uforce 1000
Me too. With 29's you just don't have to think about it. Did you lift?
Hey Steve, Think I asked this of you before, but I cant find your answer. 2015 z 800 Trail, stock tires 26x9 (and 11) x 14s can I do 29s without needing to change anything? bone stock now, slow speeds rocky terrain, Gonna add Hester Elka, but want to go up in tire size if I can before I order.
Thanks man
You will need our primary kit with our srm3 helix buddy www.rngperformance.net any time changing tire you gotta change the clutch.
Question 2022 you force 1000 can I re-clock the secondary with 28 inch tires and it do any good it’s very jerky right now and I’m trying to resolve some of that and if I can what settings on the clocking
You can reclock but it won’t make it butter smooth. If you want butter smooth my primary kit will be your best friend. Www.rngperformance.net
Great and honest video man 👌 What would be your recommendation for a Cfmoto Zforce 950 4 seater ? 30s at max ? The machine would be completely stock apart from the tyres and not hardly driven
Thank you. 30s and I would go with our primary clutch kit with our srm3 helix www.rngperformance.net
@@R.N.GPerformance Are there any dealers for your products in Europe? Im in Greece
Are those high clearance a arms on your cfmoto? If so where did you get them??
Yes they are. SATV. They no longer make them
Great info! I’d also bet that CFMoto won’t cover driveline damage if you have over spec tires on your machine. With that said I’m staying with the stock tire size.
Correct
Hi bro. I have zforce 950 HO ex with stock tires (29 inches ) but i like so much maxxis carnivore 30x10x14 but i dont know if do installation or not. Your video confuse me. Mybe its better stay stock tire. Thanks.
Happy new year.
Nothing to be confused about. Don’t go bigger then a 30 and you won’t have issues. If you go bigger you may have issues.
Can I put 28 x 10 x 14 all around on my stock 800EX rims?
They will fit fine buddy
@R.N.GPerformance I appreciate your experience, thanks 😊
Thank you for being Honest all the more reason I watch your channel do you have any insight on the new CF Moto sport 4 yet
No problem at all. Thank you. Nothing. But I do have clutch kits ready for them they are out there just not allot of them yet. . We been running our kits in Australia for a while now on those units. They should be coming here
Www.rngperformance.net
I am running 42 on my 8inch and 4inch portals with no promises at all I have a badass belt and all highlifter lift kit and portals on my can am defender
What off set are your rims and what is the size
5+2 14x 10 28
Can you get away with 32x14 on STOCK 950 HO EX without a clutch kit for just trail riding and gravel road running?
No. The stock clutch will eat belts and melt sliders.
Àwsome video man first thing. I did when i
First thing I did when I bought my used u force 1000 was chang the tires they had on it they had 32inch rockabilly s on it I dropped down to a 26inch black diamond on 12 inch rims just something I had laying around they work great
Thank you 🙏
2018 ZForce 1000, are 29 inch tires a safe bet. Thanks!
Yes you will be fine.
Problem is theres no gear reduction kits that ive found
Exactly
I have 30 rock a Billy’s on mine and they are heavy tire I couldn’t imagine the weight of a 34inch tire without some type of reduction. Heck my buddy has a can am maverick turbo Rr and they only come with a 32 lol.
No doubt
Simple Question here.... if I never run above 25-30mph on trails, can't I just run my 2015 Zforce 800 EX with 30s in LOW gear and get "safe-ish" results? That should help, right?
No sir. The weights are too heavy.
@@R.N.GPerformance So you're saying that runing in L instead of H would have ZERO effect? It would not be any better on anything?
@@thoroughbredautobrok pretty much. Because your just putting that extra load on to the wet clutch. The clutch in these are tuned too high for even stock tires. You won’t burn up a belt in these as easy as you would the wet clutch.
Or 29.5 inch assassinators to big of a tire for a stock 2022 ZFORCE 950 ho?
No it would be fine e
Let's put this way,I broke alot of shit wheeling my old jeep tj,by the end of building it I was running 4.88 ring pinion sitting on 35s bf Goodrich crawlers. Just saying
I can’t work out why my belt on my Uforce 800 is riding up high on the primary and secondary causing it to rub on the CVT case… 2017 with 5000k…. Is it the Dr P sliders I just put in or to much wear on the sheeves 🤔 could I shim the primary 🤔🤷🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️ this has been a long few mths of trouble shooting when time permits 😭
what belt are you using? the sliders wont cause this. but a belt that isnt the correct size will
I got a Dayco XTX 2261 this time, the Gboost belt I ordered to suit also did the same. School holidays here in OZ, my buggy’s been out of action the last 2 times my daughters have come to stay 😂…. I’m a mechanic and get how it all works though this one has got me stumped.. I’m just now wondering if it’s a combination of wear on the helix and the wear pads it slides on and worn primary sheeves although all components look to be in ok condition… the belt is acting as if it is an inch to big.. I just wanna go out bush for a fish 😭😭😭
This machine has nearly 6000 hard Kms on it to date.. It is 40deg C most of the year round here and red hard hot dirt terrain, bit like mars 😂 It’s one machine that’s really been run in and tested to the extreme… It’s a testament to its manufacturer given its price and capability.. 👌👌👌 I just want it fixed 😭
Your vids are 👌👌 for Cfmoto and it’s owners, your tech info is getting more informative by the mth.. As a viewer and owner, muchly appreciated 🍻
The machine is an end Of year Uforce Hunter, looking at the Dayco belt chart, maybe the belt should be an XTX 2262… All the places I have been ordering from advertise the 2261 is the correct one.. The charts advertise the 61 for my machine and 62 for the Z series, is it possible I have the same cvt as the 800 z 🤔 The 2262 is a bit shorter
must of watched real talk power sports main street cycle videos im just here to flip shit lol
😂
Haha that little baby pinion would make a great keychain. Lol
😂 😂 😂 I do agree. But it is heavy for how small it is.
What would u charge to build a cage like your 800ex
This is SideBySide not a Jeep Wrangler to put 35 and 37.. with stock gears theese are broken too, especially hill climbing.. just push a huge and broke...
Duals!
Yes I have duals
Big wheels/ tires = mechanical disadvantage and a horrible idea when strength is desired.
absolutly
I'm this guy 😂 anyone want a set of 32x10x14? 😂 120mi on them ill trade down to 29 or 30's I'm in Cincinnati 😂
lol
sell them what they want, just tell them you don't recommend it
I can’t do it. I’ve been there done that and it always seems to be the sellers fault. Not the owner.
Man I wanted to do 32s with a clutch kit on my zforce950 ho ex
You can. But I don’t recommend it.
Just find a company that can make portals for your machine, I haven't seen a cfmoto on portals yet ... just saying
There is about 4 of them on portals. They are using the RZR 800 portals.
@@R.N.GPerformance Is it as simple as buying those portals from SuperATV and building backing plates to mount them?