Format Explainer | MSI 2024
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- The stakes are higher than ever at #MSI2024, with the winner punching a ticket to Worlds!
Here’s everything you need to know about this year’s showdown in Chengdu.
Watch all the #MSI2024 action live at lolesports.com May 1 - 19 (PT).
Play-Ins: May 1 - May 5
Bracket Stage: May 7 - May 19
Grand Final & Opening Ceremony: May 19
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Wait that extra slot is actually such an insane touch. I love the idea
I think its still like last year, its not like LCK and LPL can have 5 seeds. Only that the MSI Winner is secured a spot at Worlds
@@combeebrian247 and the runner up region secures the other 4th slot too from what I understand
Thanks Valorant
@@combeebrian247 no, from what I understand the winner of MSI gets a spot regardless of the region. Meaning that if for example T1 wins, then they secure the "MSI spot". LCK#1, #2, #3, and #4 spots are still available. And if T1 should take one of them, then it will be granted to the LCK#5.
Same reasoning for the runner up, except that he still has to be in the top 5 of his region to be qualified.
@@hugodecarvalho7932 No, by default every region has 3 slots available this time. Past worlds does not give a 4th slot to LCK/LPL automatically now. MSI performance will decide which 2 regions get 4 seeds, and which 2 regions stay with 3 seeds.
The instant spot at worlds AND the extra slots for your region is a really good addition, this will make the tournament much more exciting with way more on the line. What they didn't mention though, is that if the team that wins MSI, for some reason, doesn't make playoffs in summer, their region does not get the extra spot at worlds. Granted seems very unlikely, but crazier things have happened.
it was posted in LOL Esports before Spring started that MSI winner is only require to participate in summer season and will still qualify in Worlds even if they didn't qualify in summer playoffs.
The MSI Champion seed will only become effective if the winning team reaches the Playoffs in their domestic Summer split
Why do I feel this would have happened to 2020 C9?
so
- only the runner up are guaranteed an additional slot for worlds. (4 slots from whole summer season + playoffs)
- the winner of MSi will have a direct invite regardless if they reach their respective summer playoffs or not
- if they reached their summer playoffs, then that region will gain an additional 4th slot (3 for summer and 1 from MSi)
- if the winner of MSi failed to reach playoffs, they still get direct invite BUT their region will only have 3 slots (2 for summer season +playoffs and 1 from MSi winner)
- with the events of MSi winner failed to reach playoffs, they might hold a qualifying series (like last year's WQS) where NA vs EU
overall this is more of a unfair for the MSi winners rather than the runner ups imo.
they might 1up the MSI qualifying series by making the 3 major (excluding the region with 4 slots already)
battle it out for that one slot (probably the highest non-qualified team for worlds for each region)
or
riot might be nice and make the 4 minor regions battle it out instead.
@@nesshin3200 This was recently said after spring that it had to qualify for playoffs in summer, and was updated on all the MSI pages (liquipedia, lolfandom etc).
So if it was changed then mb, but I was pretty certain it was playoffs
edit: I misread your comment and I think you misread mine, I was talking about the extra spot for the region. Worlds is secured, but the extra spot they get relies on whether or not they reach playoffs. If they don't, their region does not get the extra worlds spot.
They put in the MAd vs T1 16 minute game in the highlights LOL
THIS 😆😆😆😆😆😆😆
1647 xdd'
Can't believe it's already time for MSI 2024.
😢😢
In 2 weeks
Time is FLYINNNNNNG by is insane actually
Ikr? It felt like T1 vs WBG only happened last month
I couldn't believe it either till I paid for the tickets 😂
I can’t wait for MSI 2024!
I love that the first place team from MSI gets an immediate seed at worlds, it makes so much sense, I honestly thought about it before and was surprised to find out it wasn't the case
Bring back Epic Draft selection. THe tense sound of picking champions, the scary bans sfx.🙏
this year MSI is going to be intense!
same champs every game 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
We agree 🔥🔥
@@johnnymonsterrrr Hey now, are you really complaning about watching an Azir last hit for 20 minutes against an Oriana?
Appreciation comment: The graphics look stunning! Great work to the designers, it's lovely!
Thanks!
No problem 👍
It's cool for sure but not so clear as I would have wished for, for an Format Explainer, I sometimes had to double check
@@leeccilee7605 was gonna say the same, feels to confusing crowded etc. But still, this seems more like a league event skin game, than MSI event, idk why nocturne is there? xD
Can i ask a question?
Any one know this effect or animation style ???
Thanks!!!
10M for explaining video is crazy
The extra slots idea is so good! I love it
So it that mean if two teams in same region meet in the final they can sent two teams more to worlds2024?
The graphics team went CRAZY on this one 🔥
So when its a TL vs FLY final LCS is getting 5 or 6 worlds spots?
Now the real tournament begins.
What do you think of this year's format?
By far the best format, way better than worlds.
Love it
they only thing I dont like about double elim is the finals.
f.e. if you win all series until finals and only lose finals series the team that lost a series before finals becomes champ thats kinda lame imo.
double eliminated in a winner takes all event is auto L
Because doing a bracket reset is not feasible for anything but fighting games. @@DeppiiTV
My eyes burns.
grinding these teams for 19 days. hahaha
love it.
It's the most wonderful time, of the year.
The problem was they used Hercules (disney) instead of Heracles (Greek) or Hercules (Roman) for the image so it's basically setting up for a confusion
Cant wait!!
It would be nice if you could make the drops disenchantable again (after we unlocked them).
Also, when will the matchups get announced/drawn?
Matches will be drawn after lpl finals
les go msi 2024 ❤
I want T1 to win, but it's pretty much a given at this point that MSI is LPL's unbreakable plot armor, especially when its taking place in their home country. I'm expecting to see BLG lift the trophy
LPL teams are not very good against T1, they have always done well against LPL
@@PatBat3manyeah always
@@PatBat3man T1 got smoked by LPL at MSI last year tho. The meta matter a lot
@@PatBat3man t1 lost to both lpl seeds in 2023 msi and lost to rng in 2022 msi so no they dont always do well against lpl
double elimination ??? GenG wins this MSI.
The funny thing is, ever since I upgraded to a MSI motherboard, League and Vanguard are going nuts and I cant play League without disabling the anticheat, great programming
Maybe try again with the colour choices. Black on a red background is super hard to read.
wait so lets say its a t1 geng final then will lck have 6 seeds? or the same for lpl?
For play-ins the 2nd match of lower bracket should've been a bracket swap to avoid rematches. The main bracket should also have a stipulation that intraregional matches are avoided until it's impossible. Apart from that it's a great format.
Yeah last year we got perhaps the worst possible opening two sets of matches with region overlap. All it took was one upset in the first bo5s but it didn't happen :(
OK can someone explain me one thing I didn't understand? So if a LPL/LCK team wins they get qualified and the region gets an extra spot, so since these regions have 4 spots currently does it mean they can send a total of 5 teams to worlds, or is there a maximum number of slots?
subtitles arent in sync
LCK squad is here!
Let`s go T1
T2*
@@dizz1934stay mad
Go go go
MSI WORLD CUP 2024 LEAGUE OF LEGEND 😱😱☑️
Airport speedrun!
Why there isn’t LJL? It is probably known, but I missed the info😅
is this view botted
hyped!
So hype, g2 lessgo
Can't wait
why no gauntlet
Does this means that Lck or lpl are sending 5 teams to Worlds?
Anyone knows the song please please???
It's so happening this year
NRG 2-0
G(0-)2
@G2LoL See you there 🫶
We are so close.
how to support my fave team?
So did they fix the region on region draws
hope they fixed this xddpantsgrab
answer this man rayot
13 days left! The hype is real 🫡🔥🔥🔥🔥
We're almost there! 👊 Any early predictions?
Love the format of MSI, and please keep the format of Worlds 2023 in this year as well, Swiss stage was SICK!
Nah, I would rather see this MSI format be implemented in Worlds.
ngl, swiss had a lot of problems, people are just not facing it
@@aliceherring-bv4xg true, cs:go uses that format tons of times
t1 and geng letssssssssssssssssssssss go
i don't care about whatever team wins it, as much as it's LCK i'm happy
@@magnumopus8420 i wanna watch at G2 and FNC
@@naturesoundup i honestly want FNC to win against G2 idk
how can you be fan of 2 biggest rivals? This is like you are cheering for real madrid and barcelona at the same time! Doesnt make sense in slightest
@@azrrrrrrrr everything is possible
The only thing can surprise me is that PCS/VCS beat LEC/LCS to go bracket stage or LEC/LCS beat LPL/LCK to go final or something
I wouldn’t say the first outcome is too unlikely, the second one though seems to be all hopium in G2.
@@kwartic NRG 2-0
Yea sure "be log in for drops" guys did u try to turn it on? +1k games 0 drops
Estoy como niño esperando navidad xd
Rito bro where is mmo?
Whit is this video music?
Does that actually mean 5 slots for the winning region, if it's a mirror region finals? That'd be hilarious.
Only 4 max, MSI Champion gets 1.
2nd region that made it further (meaning top 3 or being runner-up), they'll get the other seed for their own region.
Anyone else have trouble understanding this dude? I need captions
I don't understand the lower bracket. Every one that loses his Bo5 goes to lower bracket but can they still win MSI?
As far as i can see only the people in higher bracket can go to the final but why is there a lower bracket? Just for funsies?
So if somehow the MSI Winners, qualify for playoffs, what would their seed be assuming they didnt became Summer Champions(1st) or have the highest Championship points(2nd)? Will they be a 3rd or 4th seed? Of course they dont need to go to Regionals right? Coz they're already qualified for Worlds?
@@minhkhoitrankhai7440 last year's 4th seed of LCK and LPL didnt go to playins tho. But yeah, forgot they could just let Regionals winner and MSI winners, kinda like what happened in 2021 where both T1 and HLE are already in at Worlds but only did a Bo5 to decide the seedings
DAGDA ANNOUNCER VOICE LETS GO!!!!!!!
DAGDA HYPE DAGDA HYPE
Bring back quickshot
What happens if the 1st and 2nd place are from the same region? 2 additional slots for the region?
I never thought I would say this but I think that there are too many Bo5s 😅.
The Double Elim Bracket last year got kinda dull with only 2 teams playing for 1 full day for opening matches.
Let's gooo!🦾
wait, VCS is allowed a spot after all that matchfixing?
those were allegations only
@@MrZedddddno there was plenty of proof of it lmao
If i remember correctly, all the people involve in matchfixing are actually out. Certain teams just quit the league and the others had to create a new roster with players left.
Yes, Riot themselves intervened so that any VCS teams that can build a roster to participate in playoffs will be eligible for the MSI slot, thats why you see SofM (World's 2020 finalist) and Optimus (2017 GAM midlaner) came out of retirement to play in the VCS playoffs
Orgs weren't behind those, so why to punish them? It was only some players here and there, even if it was in the all 8 VCS teams and orgs said they weren't going to protect anyone that could be found guilty. Teams are allowed to get subs, it's not exclusive to this incident. They got full rosters, then 4 teams continued to participate.
1:27
VCS allowed to send a team after the issues with betting?
Yeah, any playoffs team that can build a team from the remaining players are eligible for the MSI slot, granted they won, and this time is GAM.
Why not bro. Not all of the members of VCS were involved. There is no reason to "not allow" those people because some others did bad things.
I'm sorry but the constant flashing of this neon red was borderline hard to watch. How did this pass through accessibility reviews?
TL is gonna bring it home this year
I dont get what "Become the unknown" should mean. Is there a hidden meaning?
not doing black on red backgrounds is like literally the first thing you learn in graphic design lmao, this is genuinely painful to look at
i think its alright
its supposed to be an eye-sore i reckon. Looks dope
@@bapobthere’s no reason to do that. It’s just bad decisions making not some cope reasoning they made to do it that way lol
@@bramsteenhoek2674and u aint a graphic designer
@@HigherKaiju no it looks cool and matches the theme so its a good decision
I can't believe T1 playing in Play-Ins it must be horrible for the other teams 😂
lower bracket love it
Revenge arc format 🌶
nobody talking about that nocturn skin?
Explanation video that leaves you with more questions! 😂😂
I thought it was Valorant Masters event because of the theme
Best tournament of the year.
Wait if by any chance we get we get an all LCK or LPL finals they get 5 seeds ???? Winner runner up and the three already allocated slots ?
"2nd best place region" so I'm guessing even if it's lpl vs lpl or lck vs lck finals the next best team will secure a worlds spot. I was wondering the same thing.
@@MaCoqAttack i guess you are right i might have understood it wrong.
I know no team will opt into sacking themselves in summer if they won MSI, but there is a case that winning enough to make playoffs / keep themselves fresh vs burning themselves out so early to attempt making worlds is a good strategy. In particular, for LPL this would be even more interesting since LPL's playoffs are ruthless. There is no guarantee getting through that.
yeah, rng 2022 was a good example to look at
You're all forgetting they also want to win their local titles, it's not only about the WC. The example of RNG isn't good, RNG were 1 loss away from not qualifying & then they had to go through the long run in Play-ins. It's not RNG were sandbagging, they had Bin in Spring, in Summer, the synergy with Breathe was different.
Guys this is the year for NA I swear (T1 is going to take it all)
If both MSI finalists are from the same region does it mean that region will have 5 teams for worlds?
^ I was wondering that question too
No, all top 4 regions currently only have 3, Riot took away the 4th seeds. Extra slots are this way: MSI Champion gets 1 for their own region.
2nd best region at MSI get the other slot for their own region.
So, any of the top 4 regions will only get 4 seeds maximum.
@@ganmu3970 How is the “second best region” determined?
@@arale5331 The region with the 2nd deepest playoff run. Means the Finals loser (if different region reached finals) or the Lower bracket Finals loser (if same region reached finals).
how about putting 2 teams from the LLA/CBLOL/VCS/PCS rather than just 1.
do you rly think CBLOL got what it takes to even win the top 3 regions?
@@CrystalisedWorld no, but PCS def deserves 2 out of all the 4 I mentioned
@@leoaugury2258 ah ok, then I totally agree with you, I would like to watch more of PCS and VCS, than CBLOL and LLA, just dont think they up to the task.
Just hope that we can avoid same region playoff matches like last year
Here's hoping.
Imo double elim doesnt make sense with the format in league rn. Theres so little advantage to the team going to the finals from winners side, would make much more sense if it was more like in fighting games, where the team from losers side has to force a bracket reset before winning, maybe in league a final game “tiebreaker” if the losers bracket team wins the bo5
If by any chance the loser bracket team 3-0 the winner bracket team, then the winner bracket team wins the tiebreaker game. It would feel terrible to crown the team as the champion with a 1-3 record on the last day of msi.
The fairest thing to do is do another bo5 if ever the lower bracket team wins the first series. But this would be a bad idea since it takes too long and it's exhausting to the players.
A good alternative is, make the championship series a bo7 but start with a 1-0 score in favor of the winner bracket team.
Can someone explain to me what “Become the Unknown” is supposed to mean??? Very strange motto for this kind of event…
it means the underdogs and upsets.. since upsets and underdogs typically pop out of nowhere in such tournaments
Okay thats pretty nice. LCK or LPL are guaranteed an extra slot, AND either, probably, BLG or GenG are guaranteed a Worlds slot. Not that they really needed that, but its still neat
Bro. T1 is winning MSI
If it aint T1 then its BLG but GenG? What a joke
@pitzuki4849 Thats funny, but no theyre not. Itll be BLG or GenG. If TES and BLG make it to finals, BLG wins. If TES and GenG make it to finals, GenG wins. If GenG and BLG make it to finals, BLG probably wins. T1 will definitely beat TES, but they probably arent beating BLG and definitely arent beating GenG. Its MSI, not Worlds.
Very very cool 👍😎
Glad you like it 👍😎
@@lolesports pls write better script this time 👍😎
So if finals is LPL vs LPL there would theoretically be 5 LPL teams at worlds?
No, the second best region will get the other spot.
No.Only 4.
It's mean 1st team and 2nd region will get Worlds' slot
If same region gets 1st and 2nd,the region has 3rd team will get the slot.
What happens when LCK gets 1st and 2nd? Autobid and extra worlds spot?
goes to the second best performing region
@@neilpanganiban272 So China. Got it. lol
Just don’t have every region fight themselves please, it’s honestly disrespectful not just to the players but the countries and to the viewers
Vamoos Estraal🦅!!
🤣
wait what? LSC is still a thing? they still play lol?
Winning MSI guarantees Worlds... I don't know what I feel about this chief, feels like the winner won't try their hardest if their spot is guaranteed and it might backfire
Love the format, now time for double elim at Worlds too 😉
Double elimination is quite boring IMO, all the matches from upper bracket are missing that touch of tension that you'd have from a classic quarters/semis/finals format even if it makes it a bit unfair
Wait, if a minor region won the 2nd place, it will locked the region because the region has only 1 or 2 slots?
it means they can get a extra slot for worlds.. but realistically speaking its VERY unlikely a minor region will get runner up at MSI (but then again anything is possible but you know what I mean)
They'd just get an extra seed, don't know how they'll do this time, maybe only 1 seed for VCS & PCS this year, it seems Riot is reducing teams because of budget. But, let's say they'll give them 2 again, if they'd be runner-ups or even champions, they'd get 3, for CBLoL & LLA, they'd get 2.
Dagda the Goat caster
My eyes
the red is so red wtf it hurst my eyes
Gotta say this video shouldnt be watched in dark room,my EYES man.
is it just me or is the video insanely blurry sometimes, might be a graphical design, but i kinda dislike it; lets look forward to msi 2024
The colors are hurting my eyes