Excellent video! Do outdoor TV's near a pool need to be bonded also. Can a surge from the pool pump cause damage to the TV circuitry? My outdoor TV is affixed to a metal swivel mount attached to my shed. The TV case is metal. It's connected to a GFCI outlet.
17:13 that also means the pool should not be used (i.e. no one in contact with the pool water body) unless it has been properly filled, in order for the metal ladder bond to work as intended inadequately filled pool bonded solely by submersed metal ladder poses a higher risk
Yes it's going to have to be a ladder or railing that fixed past the point of normal operation, meaning that it's going to have to be below any points of filtration/water jets.
Great job, learned so much! Two questions: 1) What about umbrellas that are either in shallow water or 1-2 ft next to the water? (aluminum or steel frames) Those would not be easy to bond since they are movable ... 2) If a typical pool safety fence where only the poles are metal/aluminum and are inserted into the pool deck hole with a plastic sleeve in it (the fence between the poles is durable plastic mesh), would each individual pole have to be bonded by running a copper wire from pole to pole?
hey coach need advice on pool bonding when look at problem a customer was having you could wet the concrete and with one hand on concrete and the other hand in the pool you would feel a shock and the same when step out of the pool using the handrail i have try shutting off the breaker coming to the pool pump and even shuttled off the main breaker to the house problem is still there and try adding more ground rods to the coping still have the problem am thinking it might be the service wires coming to the house they are feed unground to the house
What would be great if you went through a practical test example of checking for resistance across all these extraneous conductive parts to prove they are at the same resistance and potential with test equipment around the pool.
Yeah, there code coach, I'm a maintenance electrician and my sister has an expensive in-ground pool, it has pumps for circulation and for fountains, a heater, and submersible lights, two of them. And the people that installed it didn't raise the PVC from the niche of the lights to 18 inches then back to the source of power, because of that the pool continuously leaks. And wasn't bonded correctly. We would get into arguments over and over, I just tried to make it as safe as possible, such as GFCI's on the lights. Can't make a person pay if they don;t want too. Ok, enough of my rant, Let's get to it. Good job.
@@ElectricalCodeCoach I really can’t agree more with this even if you are a master electrician with 50-years in the trade and your knowledge is at very high level such that you teach at an educational establishment you would still want to pull a permit have it inspected by someone else because we are all human beings who can miss something critical and it’s gets worse because if it’s a job you have done a thousand times the risk actually increases because the potential to assume something and not think while doing the job is even greater.
Two thumbs up! I used to rate university faculty teaching, and this is great teaching. Very clear.
Thank you for your kind words!
I got my industrial journeyman license coach! Love your educational videos keep up the good work. Gives us all some good Refreshers.
Congratulations bro!
One of the most informative pool bonding videos out there. Great job and Thanks!
GREAT JOB on this educational video, Thanks coach, I learned something from it and I enjoyed it !
Great video
Outstanding!!! ❤️👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Let's go!!
After bonding all the devices where do you attach the end of the #8 ? To the ground of your distribution panel , a ground rod or both?
Excellent video! Do outdoor TV's near a pool need to be bonded also. Can a surge from the pool pump cause damage to the TV circuitry? My outdoor TV is affixed to a metal swivel mount attached to my shed. The TV case is metal. It's connected to a GFCI outlet.
17:13 that also means the pool should not be used (i.e. no one in contact with the pool water body) unless it has been properly filled, in order for the metal ladder bond to work as intended
inadequately filled pool bonded solely by submersed metal ladder poses a higher risk
Yes it's going to have to be a ladder or railing that fixed past the point of normal operation, meaning that it's going to have to be below any points of filtration/water jets.
So then at some point the pool frame & ground ring in earth around shall b comnected to the equipment grounding conductor of the pool circuit ?
One of the best videos out there. Question, I s there a material or rating requirement on the nut and bolt to bond the clamp to pool metal surfaces. ?
Where does that ground wire terminate? At the service panel?
Hey coach do you size pool pumps conductors using the FLC ? I have a situation I would love to get your input on .
125% for motor conductors
Does your solid #8 need to terminate in the pool sub panel, house sub panel ? Or does it remain free floating?
Great job, learned so much! Two questions:
1) What about umbrellas that are either in shallow water or 1-2 ft next to the water? (aluminum or steel frames) Those would not be easy to bond since they are movable ...
2) If a typical pool safety fence where only the poles are metal/aluminum and are inserted into the pool deck hole with a plastic sleeve in it (the fence between the poles is durable plastic mesh), would each individual pole have to be bonded by running a copper wire from pole to pole?
Would we ever bond the pool, spa, or jacuzzi back to a sub panel?
Are you asking if we will ever take a number 8 pool bonding conductor back to a sub panel?
Yes
hey coach need advice on pool bonding when look at problem a customer was having you could wet the concrete and with one hand on concrete and the other hand in the pool you would feel a shock and the same when step out of the pool using the handrail i have try shutting off the breaker coming to the pool pump and even shuttled off the main breaker to the house problem is still there and try adding more ground rods to the coping still have the problem am thinking it might be the service wires coming to the house they are feed unground to the house
Wow, thank you for sharing, you definitely want to keep working with the customer until you find this problem
What would be great if you went through a practical test example of checking for resistance across all these extraneous conductive parts to prove they are at the same resistance and potential with test equipment around the pool.
Yeah, there code coach, I'm a maintenance electrician and my sister has an expensive in-ground pool, it has pumps for circulation and for fountains, a heater, and submersible lights, two of them. And the people that installed it didn't raise the PVC from the niche of the lights to 18 inches then back to the source of power, because of that the pool continuously leaks. And wasn't bonded correctly. We would get into arguments over and over, I just tried to make it as safe as possible, such as GFCI's on the lights. Can't make a person pay if they don;t want too. Ok, enough of my rant, Let's get to it. Good job.
Yeah man it stinks! Let's get to it!!
Sorry it’s me again - - the bounding is not to be conected to any ground on the sub panel ? No need it an extra Rod coperweld
what do you mean don't repeat this? and to use it only for education only. so what Im suppose to do out the field?
Read the code, pull a permit, work with your inspector.
@@ElectricalCodeCoach I really can’t agree more with this even if you are a master electrician with 50-years in the trade and your knowledge is at very high level such that you teach at an educational establishment you would still want to pull a permit have it inspected by someone else because we are all human beings who can miss something critical and it’s gets worse because if it’s a job you have done a thousand times the risk actually increases because the potential to assume something and not think while doing the job is even greater.