I'll raise my hand here and ask about posts or beams priced as boards. If I contract a sawyer to give me a 12' 8x8 it'll cost me $77. Assume he or she cants a 12" log in four passes and slaps it in the truck job done. Cha-ching, goodbye. Same price though if this becomes up 7 more passes through the mill to make 8 1" boards. My question does not relate to why they charge the same for more work, but how they charge the same for less work. My local sawyer says 80¢/bdft beam or board, so it's apparently non-specific to the product. Any insight?
As a guy that has run a saw mill for a number of years, the price is the same because of material handling, boards require more sawing time but are easier to handle, a big timber is going to require additional machine, a fork lift for example. And a decent fork lift will cost more than the mill depending on the size of the mill. You will hurt yourself handling timber all day by hand. Yes quicker to saw but more time in material handling. You still need a fork lift to handle a lift of boards too. It is all so related to the potential value in the log, not concerning the different work that goes into that log.
Somewhat related to the video: why are you only speaking of softwoods? Is hardwood (e.g. white oak) generally not used? Is it just a cost consideration or are there structural/fabrication considerations that make softwood the preferred choice?
hardwoods are used if your loads are higher and you need stiffer beams, generally, e.g. hemlock. It's usually determined by an engineer what wood is best for the job when he calculates the loads and bending forces acting on the proposed structure.
@@thatguy928 Thanks for the reply. Much appreciated. I've done some more research and read some more books on timber framing, so figured I would add another reason that I found in my reading: when you don't need hardwood for the structural loads, softwood will shrink less and makes for more attractive joints with less gaps.
Hopefully constructive criticism: "Height" ends with a 't', not a 'th'. Also, on your formula, you could simply cancel out (reduce) the twelves, leaving you with 8x8=64. HTH. I love your channel.
And this includes any of the numbers, as in a 8 foot long 8 inch by 12 inch timber. Also when smaller stock such as 2x material is used you get to make it even simpler for 2x6 the board foot is just the length. I look for fun number in these calculations. stuck piles of boards that are 4 feet wide for a quick guess at the piles content.
You convert the feet by dividing through by 12. Also, why is the unit of measurement known as a _’board foot’?_ I’m gonna have to do a quick google search... *Grrrrr... Blueberry!!!??* 😱🤯🤬🤬🤬😤😠😡
Hi Blueberry. This is a good reminder how to calculate bdf. Hope all is well and everyone is healthy.
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I'll raise my hand here and ask about posts or beams priced as boards.
If I contract a sawyer to give me a 12' 8x8 it'll cost me $77. Assume he or she cants a 12" log in four passes and slaps it in the truck job done. Cha-ching, goodbye.
Same price though if this becomes up 7 more passes through the mill to make 8 1" boards.
My question does not relate to why they charge the same for more work, but how they charge the same for less work.
My local sawyer says 80¢/bdft beam or board, so it's apparently non-specific to the product.
Any insight?
As a guy that has run a saw mill for a number of years, the price is the same because of material handling, boards require more sawing time but are easier to handle, a big timber is going to require additional machine, a fork lift for example. And a decent fork lift will cost more than the mill depending on the size of the mill. You will hurt yourself handling timber all day by hand. Yes quicker to saw but more time in material handling. You still need a fork lift to handle a lift of boards too. It is all so related to the potential value in the log, not concerning the different work that goes into that log.
Simple. Thanks.
Somewhat related to the video: why are you only speaking of softwoods? Is hardwood (e.g. white oak) generally not used? Is it just a cost consideration or are there structural/fabrication considerations that make softwood the preferred choice?
hardwoods are used if your loads are higher and you need stiffer beams, generally, e.g. hemlock. It's usually determined by an engineer what wood is best for the job when he calculates the loads and bending forces acting on the proposed structure.
@@thatguy928 Thanks for the reply. Much appreciated. I've done some more research and read some more books on timber framing, so figured I would add another reason that I found in my reading: when you don't need hardwood for the structural loads, softwood will shrink less and makes for more attractive joints with less gaps.
The snort 😆
Hopefully constructive criticism: "Height" ends with a 't', not a 'th'. Also, on your formula, you could simply cancel out (reduce) the twelves, leaving you with 8x8=64. HTH. I love your channel.
And this includes any of the numbers, as in a 8 foot long 8 inch by 12 inch timber. Also when smaller stock such as 2x material is used you get to make it even simpler for 2x6 the board foot is just the length. I look for fun number in these calculations. stuck piles of boards that are 4 feet wide for a quick guess at the piles content.
haha, you're funny :)
You convert the feet by dividing through by 12.
Also, why is the unit of measurement known as a _’board foot’?_
I’m gonna have to do a quick google search...
*Grrrrr... Blueberry!!!??*
😱🤯🤬🤬🤬😤😠😡
Sorry, I don’t understand how $ 20 × 64 gives a result of 76.80 ??? my calculator gives 1280 when multiplied