Just Remember, You Saw It Here First ;)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 6 ก.ย. 2024
- This video was captured from a company called aMagisn who makes a lot of aftermarket accessories for various cameras.
For those chirping about this being a deal breaker, guess you were wrong. The lens guard IS removable/replaceable. I would strongly advise that you take advantage of Insta360's FREE lens guard service for the first year if you can help it. I would use this either out of warranty or in an absolute emergency, you do this at your own risk! For Insta360, I hope you will open this up for end user to have the option of replacing it themselves, I think you increase your sales ;)
* The take down video is from this AliExpress listing, I am not the original video creator and all ownership and copyright goes to the original creator.
🔴 THIS VIDEO IS IN NO WAY SHAPE OR FORM SPONSORED BY ANY OF THE COMPANIES and/or PRODUCTS MENTIONED. These are ONLY MY findings and My views and NO BS thoughts to shed some light on products that can hopefully help you make the right decision that works for YOU. "Shop Smart... Shop S Mart ;)"
SOME OF THE GEAR USED TO SHOOT THIS VIDEO -
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💥 Sony Alpha A6300 w/SIGMA 16MM Portrait Lens @4K/60fps
💥 Insta360 Ace Pro w/UV ND Filter @4K/30fps HDR
💥 DJI Action 2 Action Camera
💥 DJI Osmo Action
PRINTER USED TO PRINT MY 3D PROJECTS -
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🔅 Geeetech A10 and A20 FDM Printers
The Gadget List For These Video -
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⭐ INSTA360 ACE PRO (bit.ly/48ovlmD)
⭐ CAMERA MOUNT BACKPACK CLIP (rb.gy/ftie8a)
⭐TELESIN QUICK RELEASE ADAPTER SET (amzn.to/41xmFrL)
⭐ JSR UV ND FILTER FOR INSTA360 ACE PRO (bit.ly/41w4FOy)
⭐ INVISIBLE SELFIE STICK 1.2M (bit.ly/48ttrB0)
⭐ Ultimaxx 46mm Four Piece Close-Up Filter Kit (amzn.to/3tmrMP8)
USEFUL LINKS -
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▶️46mm Close-Up Lens Adapter (3D Printer STL File)
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In addition to the lens guard, can the actual lens be removed and replaced with a more narrow angled macro type lens?
@@AnandPatel-h3j so far I haven't seen specialized filters like that other then Nd filters.
There are some people who simply cant believe a company would simply glue on the lens cover and not be transparent about it..😂
I post in a camera group on the 6th of Dec that addresses this also. It’s kind of comical they glued it.
Yah, not sure what the reasoning behind that was, as if that would hold, there's already been someone who dropped it off a motorbike and the lens guard popped off, wasn't broken though, just literally unscrewed and popped off lol
My guess is they added 2 drops of adhesive to the metal parts to make it un removable by hand, you can even see the glue in the video.
Probably a patent issue with gopro as it looks very similar.
They should have went with a threaded design which would not have had any patent issues.
Just guessing but that seems like a reasonable explanation 🤣
I think its more of a "Buy My Warranty Issue"
Have you tested the water proof feature of this?
Yes, BassmanStrikes has tested it submersed in water for a long period, I would not use this underwater as the quality is not great in terms of seals. It does have the o ring inside but the problem is the adhesive used to glue the lens to the frame, it started to leak after a period of time in water. For regular use for protection on impact, scratches and light water splashes, no problems but not submersed. This issue was submitted to that company so let's see if they improved that. tbh, they really just needed a good marine silicone to glue that lens down.
@@MiyagisRant okay. I recently took the pro on a vacation and used it in a pool off and on and had no issues with the stock lens. I’d hate to swap out the stock lens for this lens and then run into issues down the road with waterproofing. 99% of content is not under water but I will say there is a small chance that there is some.
@@zackman2091 My advice, until they fix this issue, I wouldn't take that thing in the water, anything else it's does it's duty. Myself, I don't take any of my cameras underwater without a housing, small price to pay for accidents or leaks etc. I don't need access the screen so it's not a big deal for me. I use mine mostly in salt water, even with pool chlorine water, you're suppose to do post maintenance on the camera ie. submerse it fresh water to flush out all the salt/chemicals etc. with a housing, you don't have to do that ;)
I think this whole non removable lens cover thing might turn into a scandal for insta360 😂
Videos are popping up of people using the wrench to remove the cover with no issues.
I kind of think they should have been more transparent about the real reason....
Not sure why Insta360 would do that, there has to be a reason, I doubt it some money making scheme cause as the Chinese, they are well aware that it's inevitable that we will see after market replacement lenses and tbh the amount of people who actually break those lens guards is a very minut crowd, they aren't going to make millions with replacing lens guards, the amount of shipping, cost of the guards, labour. They would make more money selling those things at 1000% profit like the GoPro's or the DJI's. Oh well, we have one person doing it and we should start seeing more as time goes by with this camera. Now that said, I wonder if maybe that guy had the pre-test models which you could remove the lens guards.
Insta360 ACE pro not have red buttons for unlock flip screen. Also notice a "crack" in de original lens.
Yes, because as I mentioned at the beginning of the video, this was based on the Ace not the Ace Pro, the Ace has red side buttons but the lens guard chasis is identical, they both use the same lens guard. And yah, it's crack, probably why he's replacing it lol
@@lumixS5M2 Yah, the Ace was launched the same time as the Ace Pro, we just haven't seen much reviews on it and it's not worth the price with the bigger difference to the Ace Pro. No, the lens was crack at the bottom right, I think when he cranked it open, it made it worse cause once a screen is crack, it's very weak.
@@lumixS5M2 Yah, I don't think Insta360 is pushing the Ace at all, I think we will eventually see that model discontinued. We don't have any retail stores here that sell the Ace Pro or Ace, it's online order only. There has been a couple of reviews and comparisons of the Ace but it doesn't compared to the Ace Pro because it doesn't have the same sensor.
Well lookie here lol. So based off of what you've seen, do you think the waterproof rating is compromised once you take the original lens cover off?
Or does it have a rubber gasket inside the lens cover giving it water resistance ratings?
Nope, this twist and lock design is almost identical to the GoPro, this is not rocket science and if you look close at the new lens guard, look at the circular part, there's an o-ring, there's your waterproofing there. If i was to finally replace mine, I would drop a couple of drops of silicone in the thread as backup. I use plumbers tape for my DJI lens guard lol never hurts to have the extra measure. Plus, the seal is fine enough for watersplashing, shallow seal, that seal will only be jeopardized when there is pressure as you go deeper. I use mine for diving exclusively and if I go beyond 5 feet deep, it goes into a dive housing, it's that simple.
@@MiyagisRant interesting. Was that lens guard you replaced the insta360's with in this clip a GoPro lens?
@@Jonasegway ? I haven't replaced anything, that's not me in the video, it's an instructional video by the company selling those replacements. I won't touch mine until the warranty is out, I'm crazy but I ain't insane ;)
hello my friend
i want to ask you about the camera size compatibility
like does it fit in a pocket jeanz
if will fit in your jean pocket if it's not really tight jeans you're wearing lol as for size, it is the biggest of the 3 cameras so i would say it yes, i have put it on my pocket but i don't wear skin tight jeans ;)
how about water proof after that?
That's a good question but from the looks of it, the replacement guards uses a similar locking method as the GoPros, the DJI is a fully threaded guard. The lens guards have water seals in them so when you screw it back it will seal the lens compartment much like the GoPros. I have ordered one in to inspect, they are cheap, once I get it, I'll do a full review on the lens filter replacements.
Wow the lense comes off and on so easy with that tool. 😮 Thanks for sharing Mr Miyagi!
I guess we will find out from the first person who attempts this lol tbh, I don't see it to be a big deal, I'm sure this is how Insta360 will do it also with the free one year lens replacement they are now giving us. I'm sure if it was that difficult they wouldn't have done that lol.
Ok, where can we buy that tool?
@@johnnysjumps Apparently when you order the lens guard it comes with it, I've ordered one so I'll post a review on it once I get it. tbh, I can make one with my 3d printer, it's not hard.
@@MiyagisRanti was just thinking you should print a wrench 🔧
@@BassManStrikes Wayyy ahead of you, design in progress lol
you were right! :) thanks! Is it still waterproof? oh i can see o-ring gasket in the lens part. Does the replacement lens have it there too?
Yah, it says it's watersealed but I'll have a better idea once I get in my hands ;)
Any update on if its still waterproof??
amazing - same for Ace pro I assume?
The lens guard is the same design as the Ace Pro, slight variation to the body design only. Makes sense, having two completely designs would mean two separate parts inventory.
Does the tool come with the new lenses?
I think I saw somewhere they do. It's like a plastic printed wrench; very similar to an oil filter wrench and they cost nothing to make.
@@andreas9119Yah it does, but I've already designed a better one lol
I wonder how water resistant those other lenses are
The post shows a water seal o ring where the three is, I'll find out when I get mine. This looks almost identical to the GoPro lens guards, short twist and lock. The DJI is a screw on lens cap that also has the o ring for water seal.
Still gonna buy action 4 😕
If that one works better for you then perfect! Enjoy it!
Is that original video on TH-cam? Or Aliexpress?
No, I messaged one of the sellers, and that video is actually on the listing for that lens guard lol
I tried to find it but no dice..there are so many listing for those 😂
, did they confirm thats a retail camera?
@@BassManStrikes The didn't confirm or not confirm, they said you can do it. Again, by that time, it won't matter, either I crank that baby open or i have a busted ass lens lol
Awesome, You made me more assertive towards buying an Ace Pro. 🎉
I'm not here to sell you an Ace Pro, I'm here to debunk some comments and assumptions and speculations made about this camera. Always buy something that caters to YOU and YOU only, don't listen to those telling you to buy this or that because it's not what THEY want ;)
@@MiyagisRant no no, I watched all those comparisons of Ace pro, Action 4 and Hero 12. In reality, The Picture quality of Ace Pro Really stands out. The low light scenarios, the colours, the flip up screen all make buying an Ace Pro more sensible. But there were some doubts like Close Up focus, Weak Rotatable Screen and Non-Replacable lens cover.
But Thanks to you, Doubts about Close Up focus and Lens Cover cleared. 😊
@@rajarshi_tvgr You will avoid the warranty if you try to pry off that lens protector. Beware.
@@Cameraflyer-, only if you don't destroy the original cover...why do you think you would pry it off? That's how you replace the glass on a hero 8 but it's designed that way where the square lens cover glass is glued in a groove and a tiny bit of heat and yes you can pry it out...
It's so unlikely they redesigned the chassis to properly do a non removable lens cover.
@@BassManStrikes you also void your warranty if you try to replace the glass on a Hero8. They will know if you pry that cover off.
Is this the same way to replace the original filter?
Yes, when the time comes, you would have to use that wrench to unscrew it to remove the original broken lens guard.
Hello from Indonesia, I just bought it amagisn lens filter from China.
and how you took off the lens so easily? 😂
That's not me, it's an instructional video from the company that sells those lens guards. I would not do it unless it's an emergency or you're out of warranty as the original lens guard is probably silicone down and why Insta360 said it wasn't removable. I will assume that Insta360 will void your warranty if you do this. This video was to prove that that lens guard was designed to be removed and I'm guessing it's the same method used by Insta360 when they are doing your free one year lens guard replacements. ;)
LOL same method, with a bit resin i think 🤣, anyway will share your video on the Ace Pro community on facebook.
@@ifnuagustianYah, stupid decision on Insta360's part but I think that's going to change with future versions but at least it's removable :)
Regardless the fact is the lens cover is removable, if they can do it at a insta360 service center we can do it also of course it would be at our own risk even when the warranty runs out.
You can easily replace the lens cover glass on a hero 8 now and that one is really designed to be non-removable where the glass is glued into a ridge that's molded into the chassis of the camera.
I probably mentioned this before but my guess is they got into a patent issue with gopro and hence had to glue the lens protectors as the mechanism looks very similar to the gopro one, or it might be someone else that holds the patent and that's why we had 1 iteration of the hero line with "non" removable lens guard.
it's highly unlikely that gluing it the way the did helps with it being more waterproof, they are just not being transparent with the real reason they did that LOL
Yup, it's funny, people were chirping about not removable lens guards and blah blah blah, when you prove them wrong and find a solution, they STILL bitch lol Ah, gotta love social media. I've already designed a better tool for the lens removal, it's more robust then the one that will come with the lens guard I ordered. lol
@MiyagisRant , I should get mine in the next week :-) looking forward to seeing your wrench design 😀
@@BassManStrikes same here, yah the wrench is done! If you want the print file I'll send it to ya.
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Now thats interesting
water test mr miyagi pls
Haha ooh Mr. Miyagi, you did it again by proving those nay-sayers wrong! Going to get it too. Btw, it seems your original lens cover has a crack or scratch??
I don't think it's his actual video *(720p footage)* but a video from aliexpress retailer vid that he's resharing here.
@@andreas9119 Yah, no one ever reads YT descriptions, i'm one of them lol
@@MiyagisRant yeah, I'm one of those pixel peepers who watches these 4k videos from my tv or listens while the phone is in my pocket. I only recently discovered the descriptions on the tv app..
@@andreas9119 Ah ok thanks for pointing it out.. my bad lol
@@MiyagisRant I do read YT descriptions but usually stop at those product links lol :)
Thank you for this Master.🙏🏽
Thats cool!
Just remember that forcing the lens cover off will void your warranty.
As I've already mention in the description if you even bothered to read it lol
@@MiyagisRant just making sure people know.
@@Cameraflyer-Won't make a dif, people will do it if they need to if they can't get a replacement in time. Warranty voided? Keep the busted ass original, pop the replacement in, then when you're home, pop back the original and send it in for repair if it's still under warranty, do you really think companies will know if it was 'opened' when the lens guard is broken, simple argument, that impact may have cause the seal to break. I've dealt with camera warranty repairs for years, companies know shit about stuff like this, they don't have the time for it. Also, with every DIY lens guard replacements, ie. DJI and GoPro, you know there's a disclaimer right? if you put it on incorrectly and it damages your camera, they WILL NOT fix it under warranty, funny no one realizes this and just assumes lol I know because I had a claim with a DJI customer that was pissed off, they did not screw on the lens guard all the way tight and caused a leakage.
@@MiyagisRant where do you think they’ll get a replacement? Insta360 doesn’t want people to take the cover off so they won’t be selling replacements.
@@Cameraflyer-No clue why they went that route but all in all it's not a smart decision, it can't be a money maker scheme, if you really sit down and think about... ppl were chirping about oh, I just have to buy a new camera if the lens breaks, that's just brainless garbage, really, if I broke my lens guard, I'm going to go buy another Ace Pro? LOL I think they made this decision from seeing all the issues of DIY lens replacements from end users. Maybe they don't want to deal with the headache of the majority who fuck it up putting it on, let's be honest, most people don't even know how to turn on one of these let alone have them replace a lens guard lol I think we will see this change for future production models, I think they will open this up eventually. Let's see how much stress it is for them to keep getting these back from customers for a simple "scratch" lol
yes I saw the garbage here first. 😂
An alternative backup solution to protection is never garbage. The point of this video was that the lens IS removable. As an impact and scratch replacement, I would rather have something than nothing in an emergency, no?
@@MiyagisRant The filters are not waterproof, and sometimes the glasses of the filters fall out because they are so badly glued and fall out under light pressure. The warranty is also gone. This is garbage and not a substitute! Many youtube Videos from this garbage.
@@anthonyblend9917 lol, ok, let me dissect what you said for a moment, bare with me... I'm going to take a stab in the dark that you don't have this camera? I'm sure you don't have the lens guard from your replies. If you actually watch the rest of the videos on my channel you'll also know that BassManStrikes and I were really the first ones to discover this with the Ace Pro and BassManStrikeso went through extensive testing with this lens guard and found that after submersing for a long period of time, the adhesive that is used to hold the lens to the frame would weaken and eventually come off. We also warned viewers that this is NOT a 'waterproof' alternative. The lens guard out of the package is perfectly fine for scratch, impact and water "resistant" use, you do know the difference between waterproof and water resistant right? Is it garbage, I don't think so, does it have a quality issue with waterproofing, absolutely. That said, if I'm out and my lens guard breaks, I would rather use this and be cautious then not have a usable camera and I scuba dive with my cameras so I know the results of water damage all to well and why I ALWAYS use a dive housing near any body of water.
"Many" TH-cam videos from this garbage... that's funny, because I've only found 2 and both of which are by BassManStrikes, the same person and friend of mine who I already mentioned. Let's not be that person with the "many videos" that prove my point. What's even more funny is that if you look at some of the videos that said the lens guards are removable and didn't discover that the waterproofing was an issue, I actually went on their comment section and posted that they are great for impact/scratch protection and not to be used for waterproofing.
Ah, ye ole warranty is gone debate... I've sold cameras for almost 20 years and I'm going to tell you one thing I DO know and not from "Many Videos...". Companies and/or authorized repair depots won't know that the lens guards were voluntarily removed by user. BassMan Strikes if you even watched his videos also said that the lens guards were held with two dabs of silicone adhesive and we've seen countless videos of people who dropped their Ace Pros and the lens guard actually came off, does that mean Insta360 will accuse you of removing that guard and won't give you the 1 year of free replacements? Doubtfully. There is no way for them to prove that it was removed voluntarily, it's a dead end argument and I've had my camera for 7 months and belong to the Ace Pro FB group where users have used this lens guard and yes, there has been 1 maybe 2 who had this lens adhesive issue but they were warned ahead of time and still used it underwater without a dive housing. Make sure you have your facts in order and you have proof of these 'Many" videos of this issue. Bassman Strikes and I were the first ones to discover this problem so you're barking up the wrong tree. Have a great day!
@@anthonyblend9917 p.s. once your out of warranty, your argument for voiding warranty is redundant. One year goes by pretty quickly. All of my GoPros, DJI's are out of warranty but I still can continue to replace lens guards without worry ;)
@@MiyagisRant just use the freewell filters, then you don‘t have any problems. 🤷🏻♂️
Ahhhh did anyone see - 21 sec, no crack. 34 sec, crack in the bottom corner, 1:40 massive crack across the lens. It should have been made possible to swap lenses and ditched the idea of it being waterproof and just durable. It can survive being knocked a a little bit but not that!! 😉
There are many 'action' cameras that don't have replaceable lens guards and remember, action cams didn't start out to have replaceable lens guards and yet we all survived lol I have 6 action cameras, some have and some don't have replaceable lens guards, I have yet to break one and I do a lot of sports. At least we now have an alternative for a replacement. If anyone is buying a camera JUST based on a simple thing like "replaceable" lens guard and over looking all other good, advanced features, then well, there's no point in trying to convince those people right? Need we forget, popular models like GoPro 8, DJI Action 2 did not have replaceable lens guards, were they crappy cameras? See, I knew it, there's a solution and yet, ppl will still bitch. I have a great idea, don't buy it then, it's really that simple but don't tell others not to simply because that one thing which btw, a large portion of people who use action cams don't actually use it in an action environment, that's just a fact. Have a good day ;)
@@MiyagisRant ahhhhh, buts it’s not a solution - it broke the lens in the demo - you’ve made a solution for the only problem I had which was close focus. It’s was never a dealbreaker for me. I do wonder though, will Insta send one of these out with replacement glass instead of asking for it back for repairs, especially after 1 year or your warranty expires. Who gonna have the balls to test it’s waterproof ability now? Not me!! 🤣 Happy Christmas!! 🎄
@@TakemesomewhereniceMCR Actually look closer to the video, the original lens had a small crack at the bottom right, when he got it open, later that original showed a larger crack on the top, now this could be a couple of things, either he switched to a another lens with a larger crack as an example, not sure why he would do that or as we know, once a lens is cracked, the whole screen becomes weak and can spread. My thought is, that with the force of the turn, he probably just made that already weak cracked screen worse. ie. did you ever crack one of those tempered glass protectors? noticed when you move or peel that protector off it gets worse. Here's the solution, when he put on the new lens guard and tightened it, it's perfectly fine, isn't that what this is about? Listen, when my warranty runs out and my lens guard breaks, you can bet I will use this and your worry of waterproofing, well, I will just use what Insta360 is using to glue that bugger down, some silicone will work as we've seen with other 3rd party lens repair kits, ie. GoPro 8. Also, I will definitely do a water seal test before I take this boy in salt water and most times when I go underwater it's in a water housing anyways. Have a great Christmas!
I hear you. Still looks to me that the wrenchy thing broke it. I can see an insta lawsuit bubbling!! If I was showcasing a new product though I’d make sure I wasn’t using something that was broken and made worse by the very thing that was supposed help - but hey I’m a perfectionist, I can’t help it! 😂. Hey, it’s not gonna bother me, can’t wait to buy the lens covers you’ve made! They look absolutely perfect for the job! 👍
@@TakemesomewhereniceMCR Oh don't get me wrong, I'm an idiot but I ain't stupid lol I'm just showing the 'haters' that this is removable and I've ordered one in to inspect it more, no way I'm putting this on until my warranty has expired unless it's an emergency and I have to absolutely replace it even then there are ways to still get my original one replace when I get a chance to send it in ;) I am also a perfectionist, I doubt we'll see any kinds of lawsuits if I know the Chinese lol I bet you the company that's selling these lens guards are probably the same company that produces them for Insta360 lol There's no such thing as pattern protection over there lol. Thanks, I did it to address the close focus issue, another one off my list for the 'haters', I'm starting to like pissing those people off lol
Unscrew your ace pro lens...pls
Nope, my video is to prove that it was removable but I'm not stupid to remove it for no reason. But you can bet on it once I'm out of the free replacement warranty and it breaks, it will be removed and replaced, already have one order and on the way ;)
@@MiyagisRant ok...is it legit that the lens is removable
@@bongpov476It was 'always' removable because pre-tested models sent out to reviewers just before launch, the lens guards were removeable like in the video. But for some reasons unknown, Insta360 decided to make it "unremovable" meaning that they probably just silicone resined it in I'm guessing. There's no way for them to reengineer the whole chasis with a fixed lens guard, the cost would be astronomical and there would be a launch delay. Plus, don't forget, Insta360 is offering FREE lens replacements, do you think they would do that if the lens guard was that hard to replace?? ;)
It's totally removable you can tell just by looking at it as it has a uneven gap, while if you look at a gopro 8 it's designed from the start as not removable but even on that one you can easily replace the glass with a heat gun.
@@BassManStrikes Yup, when the time comes for me to do mine which will be after the warranty, heat gun and that wrench, no problems. I've taken apart Iphones in the past, look how tight those bitches are lol