I bought tools from a herbrand tool truck in the 80's in Calgary Canada. Most tools were similar quality to Snap On. Still have them all and they are good as new.
I have a 21 piece Herbrand SAE ratchet set with spinner handle. Bought from JM Fields store back in early '70s. Think I paid $12.95 for it. Have used it many times and still in mint condition. We Americans made good stuff back in the day. Outsourcing by greedy CEOs killed our manufacturing.
My grandfather, Peter Antoni (sounds Italian, but he was German) worked for Herbrand in Freemont in the 1920's, before later working for Ford on the Model T lines. The one Herbrand story I remember was one he was proud of: He was asked by the executives to specially polish and prepare a special set of tools as a retirement present for another executive... or a president of the company? Not sure. But he described taking a long time to finish this set to a very high polish, and how a special lined presentation box was made for it. I have wondered if this set still exists, and have looked around the internet for one that fits the description- to no avail. But I did by several 20's era wrenches, knowing there is some chance, however small, that my "Papa Peter" may have worked on them.
I had to laugh when you pointed out the little mascot guy...edward robinson.Pretty funny..I always liked those obstruction wrenches or half moon wrenches...Carlyle makes both today.
Cooper had scooped up a ton of brands, that used to be competitors. With them all operating under the same umbrella, I don't think they wanted them competing with each other for market share.
Interesting I think I have a herbrand ratchet around here somewhere, I was looking for a video on Diamond tool in your other stuff but couldn't find one I had a shop teacher that worked there sometime in the late 70's.
I love those flexible socket wrenches.I have been looking into them trying to make a decision on which brand I would like to buy.Facom...Boxo, Urrea,and genius tools have them...Also Carlyle but they are like 28.00 a piece...The carlyles are extremely nice but I am thinking either facom or Genius will be my choice...I bet those herbrand socket wrenches are pretty nice too!.
@danohstoolbox No problem. Always grateful for a share. The image at 1:32 is from a 1937 catalog: archive.org/details/HerbrandCatalog50M1937/page/n19/mode/2up
@ballinator hear in Canada herbrand was located at 90 sherbourne st Toronto then 340 Dufferin st toronto seco sales and service ltd I have a 1947 catalog in front of me
These are hilarious. Well, save for the part about US mfg. getting killed in every film. The graphics of the era were/are epic. The re-enactment parts look so real, I wouldn't have thought they were paid actors.
Thanks! Yeah it's a lot of work flying in the actors, coordinating with the costume department, and building all the sets to do the re-enactment scenes..
In 1961 Proto Tools took over the Indy 500 sponsorship and even had a fully stocked store at the speedway I have been told where race teams got tools free of charge for running the stickers on cars. I have only seen one photo of the store at the speedway maybe you can find one ??. Wasn't the Utica Herbrand also Bonney Tools in Orangeburg SC. as that was where they made them and I have seen a video showing where that factory was as it has been torn down awhile ago. Never forget Bonney Tools invented Loc-Rite 12 point tools and Snap-On stole the design and called it flank drive and lost a court case when Bonney took them to court and had to pay big money which is the right finding by the court. Out of all the tool companies that have fallen Bonney had the best finish and the tool line by far.
@jimhaines8370 Thanks for the info! The Indy 500 thing didn't come up when I did my Proto video, but I'll look into it some more. Yeah Utica also bought out Bonney Tools. I'll be doing a video on them in the future.
@@ballinator Have a bunch of my dad's Utica- Bonny , Proto, and Williams tools. Snap -on man told me that proto and Williams was bought by Snap on in the 80's? Interesting that the 'flank drive ' was involved?
@@jeffhill3681 Snap-On bought Williams. Proto ended up getting bought by Stanley. I'll dig into the flank drive connection when I do a full video on Bonney.
@@ballinator Farm raised History buff and mechanic, family all involved in machining & tooling, mechanical, electrical, and woodworking trades with production and fabrication of all kinds. In other words, if it is a tool, someone in the family used it! Love the content.
Off subject question, If you look at "DURATECH L-Type Pipe Perforation Elbow Wrench Set, L Shaped Hex Socket Wrench Set, Metric, 9-Piece, 8-19mm, Chrome Alloy Steel, 6 Point, with Rolling Pouch". What is history of this style of wrench. They seem more popular in Europe. I assume this tool is like the poor mans socket and wrench set ?
@EdAtoZ I've always just called those "socket wrenches" they were popular before ratchets and interchangeable sockets came along. They would have had a lower profile (height) than a standard ratchet & socket, but with modern low-profile ratchets, not so much anymore. They might have had a strength benefit too, before modern alloy steels came along.
I bought tools from a herbrand tool truck in the 80's in Calgary Canada. Most tools were similar quality to Snap On. Still have them all and they are good as new.
Very cool. That means the Canadian operation was still alive in Canada through the '80's.
Well done. I found some Herbrand sockets in a tool free pile while walking in my neighborhood. I had to get my truck to haul them all away.
Thanks! Very cool tool haul.
I have a 21 piece Herbrand SAE ratchet set with spinner handle. Bought from JM Fields store back in early '70s. Think I paid $12.95 for it. Have used it many times and still in mint condition. We Americans made good stuff back in the day. Outsourcing by greedy CEOs killed our manufacturing.
Yep. I'm still using my Herbrand tools that I have . They do what they were designed for . Quality made in the 🇺🇸👍🏻USA , long ago .
I have the short box wrenches and several pliers and other tools. Would like to have the 1920s tool chest!
I think I have it
My grandfather, Peter Antoni (sounds Italian, but he was German) worked for Herbrand in Freemont in the 1920's, before later working for Ford on the Model T lines. The one Herbrand story I remember was one he was proud of: He was asked by the executives to specially polish and prepare a special set of tools as a retirement present for another executive... or a president of the company? Not sure. But he described taking a long time to finish this set to a very high polish, and how a special lined presentation box was made for it.
I have wondered if this set still exists, and have looked around the internet for one that fits the description- to no avail. But I did by several 20's era wrenches, knowing there is some chance, however small, that my "Papa Peter" may have worked on them.
Very cool story! Hopefully that presentation set is still out there somewhere.
You should do a story about Herbs brother, Ingersol, and his tool company.
Ingersol Rand is on the list.
I had to laugh when you pointed out the little mascot guy...edward robinson.Pretty funny..I always liked those obstruction wrenches or half moon wrenches...Carlyle makes both today.
I wish some brands would bring back the cartoon character style mascots. They were always pretty cool.
Awesome . I have a pair of Herbrand Ford pliers.
I enjoy these vids. Thanks.
You're welcome! Glad you're liking them.
Excellent. tHank you for the video......bye
You're welcome. RIP Herbrand.
Great video. Keep up the excellent work! Thank you.
You're welcome! More videos in the series are coming.
Sadly Cooper was the end of many popular tool brand. Thank you.
Cooper had them all over a barrel.
Cooper had scooped up a ton of brands, that used to be competitors. With them all operating under the same umbrella, I don't think they wanted them competing with each other for market share.
@@ballinatorCooper tools and everything remaining was balled up and became apex tools
Pretty cool that Rick Moranis also worked for a tool company.
Thanks for noticing that. I'm curious how many others will 'get' the joke.
@@ballinator Umbrella Corp and Fuller were good too
Is there anything he couldn't do? eh?
Interesting I think I have a herbrand ratchet around here somewhere, I was looking for a video on Diamond tool in your other stuff but couldn't find one I had a shop teacher that worked there sometime in the late 70's.
@scottmacleod6301 No Diamond video yet, but they're on my list to cover in the future.
@@ballinatorthe one I've got is a herbrand s-8 ratch -a-dapter, nice forging but doesn't seem to grab the gears inside very well.
1340 steel is Carbon-Manganese steel. (Recently looked this up, as I was curious).
I love those flexible socket wrenches.I have been looking into them trying to make a decision on which brand I would like to buy.Facom...Boxo, Urrea,and genius tools have them...Also Carlyle but they are like 28.00 a piece...The carlyles are extremely nice but I am thinking either facom or Genius will be my choice...I bet those herbrand socket wrenches are pretty nice too!.
Yeah, if you can find a set of vintage Herbrands, that are still in good shape, that would be cool.
I have that same box at 1.32
I did not realize it might be that old you can't see it has 2 drawers in that picture
I hope you don't mind I shared your video to a Facebook page that talks about herbrand tools
@danohstoolbox No problem. Always grateful for a share.
The image at 1:32 is from a 1937 catalog:
archive.org/details/HerbrandCatalog50M1937/page/n19/mode/2up
@@ballinator yes that is the same box I have
that is very cool
@ballinator hear in Canada herbrand was located at 90 sherbourne st Toronto
then 340 Dufferin st toronto
seco sales and service ltd
I have a 1947 catalog in front of me
I don't have any Herbrand tools. They look OK to me though. Eh you hoser?
You have any plans for a HD Smith Perfect Handle video?
@MrGunPilot I'll add them to the list.
These are hilarious. Well, save for the part about US mfg. getting killed in every film.
The graphics of the era were/are epic.
The re-enactment parts look so real, I wouldn't have thought they were paid actors.
Thanks! Yeah it's a lot of work flying in the actors, coordinating with the costume department, and building all the sets to do the re-enactment scenes..
In 1961 Proto Tools took over the Indy 500 sponsorship and even had a fully stocked store at the speedway I have been told where race teams got tools free of charge for running the stickers on cars. I have only seen one photo of the store at the speedway maybe you can find one ??. Wasn't the Utica Herbrand also Bonney Tools in Orangeburg SC. as that was where they made them and I have seen a video showing where that factory was as it has been torn down awhile ago. Never forget Bonney Tools invented Loc-Rite 12 point tools and Snap-On stole the design and called it flank drive and lost a court case when Bonney took them to court and had to pay big money which is the right finding by the court. Out of all the tool companies that have fallen Bonney had the best finish and the tool line by far.
@jimhaines8370 Thanks for the info! The Indy 500 thing didn't come up when I did my Proto video, but I'll look into it some more. Yeah Utica also bought out Bonney Tools. I'll be doing a video on them in the future.
@@ballinator
Have a bunch of my dad's Utica- Bonny , Proto, and Williams tools. Snap -on man told me that proto and Williams was bought by Snap on in the 80's? Interesting that the 'flank drive ' was involved?
@ballinator hear in Canada grey tools and bonney tools we're together from 1940 through 1960
I used to have a grey bonney box
@@jeffhill3681 Snap-On bought Williams. Proto ended up getting bought by Stanley. I'll dig into the flank drive connection when I do a full video on Bonney.
@@ballinator
Farm raised History buff and mechanic, family all involved in machining & tooling, mechanical, electrical, and woodworking trades with production and fabrication of all kinds. In other words, if it is a tool, someone in the family used it!
Love the content.
Off subject question, If you look at "DURATECH L-Type Pipe Perforation Elbow Wrench Set, L Shaped Hex Socket Wrench Set, Metric, 9-Piece, 8-19mm, Chrome Alloy Steel, 6 Point, with Rolling Pouch". What is history of this style of wrench. They seem more popular in Europe. I assume this tool is like the poor mans socket and wrench set ?
@EdAtoZ I've always just called those "socket wrenches" they were popular before ratchets and interchangeable sockets came along. They would have had a lower profile (height) than a standard ratchet & socket, but with modern low-profile ratchets, not so much anymore. They might have had a strength benefit too, before modern alloy steels came along.
Same as Cornell?
Cornwell? That's a different company, they're on the list to get a full video sometime in the future.
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I researched it.....Herbrand became Thembrand
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