New Zealand’s ABANDONED CITY

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  • @claire3gen710
    @claire3gen710 ปีที่แล้ว +540

    You're shocked? We who live in beautiful Tauranga are equally shocked. Tauranga used to be a thriving city centre, but thanks to council enforcement of parking meters and reduced parking it has contributed to people shopping elsewhere. It's also extremely difficult for workers in the city centre to find parking, although we have parking buildings the cost is prohibitive for many to use, so they park miles from work and walk. Council is trying to make it a night-life centre, hence all the food places. They really have 'missed the boat'.

    • @mohork
      @mohork ปีที่แล้ว +41

      You saved me the trouble of explaining it.

    • @sleepinggiant5161
      @sleepinggiant5161 ปีที่แล้ว +43

      Exactly, missed it completely, why go to central Tauranga when you can get free parking at Bayfair, Papamoa, Mount, Tauriko and Bethlehem?

    • @GypsyGirl317
      @GypsyGirl317 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      You are so right. It used to be an incredible CBD to visit and the shopping was fantastic! 😍
      I'm sorry for the people who live and work there. ❤️🌿🙆🏻‍♀️

    • @keithomelvena2354
      @keithomelvena2354 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      Tauranga isn't unique in having a dying town centre. Box developments and internet trading have killed small physical retail and that fact won't change, regardless of all the ratepayer money and hopium thrown at it

    • @mrpachino6014
      @mrpachino6014 ปีที่แล้ว

      the Tauranga council is same as others in NZ...working for the criminals at the World Economic Forum communists

  • @stimpykiwi
    @stimpykiwi ปีที่แล้ว +164

    I've lived in Tauranga literally my whole life. The council has slowly destroyed the city centre. Paying for parking made people stay away, they have had multiple iterations of parking meters that have gotten worse and worse, and now there are so few of them, you have to walk 50 meters to pay for parking, and you WILL get a ticket for staying over the time limit as they seem to employ a lot of parking wardens.
    They have totally destroyed small businesses on the start of Cameron road, there is a dairy, cafe, laundromat, and hair dresser that have not a single parking spot, totally killing their businesses, it's a discrace.
    Cameron road a a total abortion, they have removed viral lanes causing massive congestion, them say they want to bring in congestion tax for congestion they have caused.

    • @Dickgoodbody
      @Dickgoodbody ปีที่แล้ว

      Wow, that's crazy! ..time to get a new Mayor for Tauranga, one that gives a damn!

    • @Hastenforthedawm
      @Hastenforthedawm ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah parking here is notorious and the buses are even worse.
      I have a car but it doesn't make much of a difference if you're going to the CBD

    • @rodcollins2978
      @rodcollins2978 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Well said had the same thought about congestion tax, should get a rebate for congestion caused by council

    • @petuia8081
      @petuia8081 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Cameron road is an absolute circus. If this is the way to reduce vehicles on the roads, it’s not working.

    • @alfnoakes392
      @alfnoakes392 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      And a 174 place Car-Park has just been closed (on the Strand) to make way for grass (and a pile of boulders). As part of a $84 million dollar prettification project.

  • @tahirua123
    @tahirua123 ปีที่แล้ว +214

    Thanks for this. I'm here in Tauranga and my Mrs says the same thing every time we go to town. Unelected local officials destroying the city.

    • @tahirua123
      @tahirua123 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Oh and damn such a great tour around there with street art. Hope someone showed you the route.
      Station 83 was terrible glad to see they're going at least.
      I went last week to try get Bobby's and they were shut doh. Hope you had better luck.

    • @TheEncouragementKid
      @TheEncouragementKid ปีที่แล้ว +1

      so sad dude

    • @merhaba8
      @merhaba8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      The place was a ghost town well before they sacked the council. They didn’t sack the council on a whim.

    • @alfnoakes392
      @alfnoakes392 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      The 'Unelected Officials' had to be brought in by Wellington because successive Tauranga Councils had been more about ridiculous combatitive factions than about getting anything done. All the current projects (ie why all the damn traffic cones are Everywhere) have been in-the-pipeline/ on-hold for years ... the pipeline replacement up Cameron Road should have been done about 20 years ago. And the cycle-ways being built up Cameron Road were clearly planned about 20 years ago (to then European practice) because the design pre-dates the advent of Electric Bikes and is thus already obsolete. I have lived in Tauranga about 20 years.

    • @alfnoakes392
      @alfnoakes392 ปีที่แล้ว

      The recent changes to Citizenship Laws in Oz (it is possible to get citizenship after a few years) have caused some people to pop over the ditch, true.@@hakopapaea2422

  • @richardmiller7887
    @richardmiller7887 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    Council gave their employees electric bikes paid for by the ratepayers whilst reintroducing parking charges for the rest of us. The Council office is in the centre with own free car parking. That is the place to look if you want to understand why Tauranga is a failing city. Massive potential destroyed by an incompetent Council.

  • @Harry-fc5qd
    @Harry-fc5qd ปีที่แล้ว +71

    I was born in Tauranga. It was once an awesome place, but the place has been turned into the largest retirement home in the country. It's CBD is a dessert ed dump. We have a non existent counci, which has also contributed the place being deserted. !!!

    • @justinsingh221
      @justinsingh221 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      This is what happened to me in 2013 living in Tauranga th-cam.com/video/-IiHqd7dqQg/w-d-xo.html

  • @kamalnz
    @kamalnz ปีที่แล้ว +99

    youre a legend for documenting all of NZ keep it up fams!

    • @duncanyourmate2433
      @duncanyourmate2433 ปีที่แล้ว

      I used to live in Lower Hutt years ago , spent a few , new years in Chilton St James swimming pool , (Waterloo road) went to the catholic facists across the road

  • @Lynda8746
    @Lynda8746 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    Tauranga is my home town. When I left there 5 years ago there were empty buildings in the CBD and it was home to the homeless. The then Council said in 5 yrs time it will be buzzing - Farmers building, apartments, Polytech all bringing people in to the city. Now I watch your video and - nothing to see here. Even more empty shops and nothing like the Council envisaged. Sad to see this, Tauranga used to have a wonderful busy CBD.

    • @DerrickWindsor
      @DerrickWindsor ปีที่แล้ว +4

      What I can't understand is: if the place has gone so bad with all the bureaucracy/Council madness, why don't the people just kick all these bureaucrats out and go back to being a decent place to live in!????

  • @coffebug
    @coffebug ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Sadly there are many New Zealand cities or towns that are full of empty shops. Our main Street has quite a few empty shops some of which have been built and never used.

  • @kerrymathers7439
    @kerrymathers7439 ปีที่แล้ว +64

    Downtown Tauranga is suffering from "Road cone madness" because of poor planning by the local govt. Most of the buildings that are empty are a result of "NZ Earthquake Building Codes" and it was easier to demolish and build a new building than to rebuild the old building up to code.
    Local people avoid this area like the plague because there is limited parking and the place is only boutiques, bars and eateries.
    There is over 30 decent shopping centres scattered all over Tauranga so why would you cram into downtown [risking parking fines etc] when you can go to a major shopping centre on the outskirts or just 200 metres from the beach at "The Mount"
    The local govt needs a way to attract people back to the centre ,not scare them away

    • @lauriejones3198
      @lauriejones3198 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Good obsevations Kerry. Born there 1960, now living in Oz, I could not believe how desolate and dead town was, back in March this year.
      Retail is gone.
      Take care.

    • @kerrymathers7439
      @kerrymathers7439 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@lauriejones3198 Did you live at Hilltop Road by any chance ??? If so we , went to school together.
      Tauranga is not desolate ,but just the opposite. So people avoid the downtown area. It is packed on Friday and Saturday nights at all the bars and eateries.
      The retailers and property owners get totally screwed over on property taxes , based on retail values. The local govt needs to get rid of all parking meters etc to encourage the public back into the area. The loss of parking revenue would be offset by increased property values [and appropriate taxes]
      Places like downtown Mt Maunganui, Papamoa, Bethlehem, Bayfair etc etc are thriving

    • @lauriejones3198
      @lauriejones3198 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@kerrymathers7439 yes mate, that's me. Moved to Aus in 1989.
      Mum ended up near Bayfair, and you are right, it was busy there. But downtown tga was almost spooky.
      I was busing it to Auckland airport a few times, back and forth in the last 12 months, and was stunned at seeing homeless people in town. They had security also.
      Melbourne is similar. A lot of restaurants closed during lockdowns and never came back. Melb city retail also cut back, still today.
      Crazy times mate. I hope you are doing ok.

    • @kerrymathers7439
      @kerrymathers7439 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@lauriejones3198 Yes I'm doing great! Next time you're back in Tauranga look me up. And we can get together and swap "war stories" etc [I'm easy to find]

    • @bm4751
      @bm4751 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's not poor planning, but no planming or worse, agenda planning, so that it's purposefully doesn't work but sucks up every single piece of budget, forcing even bigger loans to be taken, and of course spiralling rates, with eventual council defaults and everyone loses their properties to the banks. Agenda 2030 anyone!!!

  • @kaptainkruft2731
    @kaptainkruft2731 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    I grew up in Tauranga in the 80s and 90s. Was a great place to grow up. The downtown you walked through was constantly busy - anytime we wanted anything other than groceries we'd head downtown to find and get. Shortly after I left in 95, it changed massively and hasn't been the same since. I visited in 2000 and it was already a different place. More visits in the intervening decades has always just been more of the same, the downtown slowly strangled to death via an inability to access and more attractive alternatives. Heading there soon (though, more the mount) and I expect to be sad for the city again.

    • @justinsingh221
      @justinsingh221 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      This is what happened to me in 2013 living in Tauranga th-cam.com/video/-IiHqd7dqQg/w-d-xo.html

  • @darrenford8988
    @darrenford8988 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    What an outstanding job these four Unelected Commission chair Anne Tolley, along with fellow commissioners Stephen Selwood, Shadrach Rolleston and Bill Wasley, were given the council’s governance responsibilities.
    According to the council’s remuneration figures, Tolley was paid $358,200 for 200 days work between February 2021 and February 2022.
    Selwood earned $261,000 for 174 days, Rolleston worked 174.5 days and was paid $261,750 and Wasley earned $275,250 for 183.5 days work.
    And this is what you end up with....

  • @boatymcboatface666
    @boatymcboatface666 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The BS that is Cameron Rd, road works aside, is a disgrace! The widening of footpath "cycle" lanes, have destroyed over 30 small businesses! The removal of carparks, in and around these businesses, is a disgrace! 🤬

  • @gruntabro1
    @gruntabro1 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Bro the central city was the place to go it was busy foot traffic everywhere…. Then the stupid City Council killed it by taking away car parks and then giving the big tick to developers to build big shopping malls out in the suburbs ie BayFare / The Crossing / Papamoa etc , no one goes into the city is just a pain in the arse it’s sad really

  • @simonzidaine8350
    @simonzidaine8350 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    20 years ago this place was beaming with activity with a city in all its glory... I dont know if people have opted for the outskirts or there is no more motivation to be downtown, council failure is key here...

    • @cheetaih
      @cheetaih ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Same in Auckland.

    • @chrisroger4416
      @chrisroger4416 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      went there and drove around for 30 min looking for a park even a paid park and found nothing therein lies the problem

  • @andrew.l.5493
    @andrew.l.5493 ปีที่แล้ว +61

    The reason it might be seen as a ghost town is most likely because the council in their wisdom decided to install parking meters. That's what happens when you get towns that are managed by morons.

    • @davidstevenson9517
      @davidstevenson9517 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      The morons are those that will NOT take a cheap, safe, convenient bus. Look in the mirror (and I DON'T mean rear-view).

    • @ihavenolifeandiclearlyneedhelp
      @ihavenolifeandiclearlyneedhelp ปีที่แล้ว +10

      ​@@davidstevenson9517yeah everyone really wants to pay even more money and spend even more time (and walk to and from the inconveniently placed bus stops) to sit and get thrown around without a seatbelt on a dusty ass seat that smells like piss farts sweat and vapes

    • @alfnoakes392
      @alfnoakes392 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      The parking-meter spaces are pretty much always full, so the meters do not do too much to discourage visitors. The proliferation of alternative shopping centres with reasonable parking is what keeps many folk shopping elsewhere. As has been mentioned, the empty shops are mainly ones that are no longer earthquake-safe (same everywhere).

    • @bobdillon1138
      @bobdillon1138 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I guess it came down to parking meters or raise your rates so which would you prefer.

    • @jamesc3953
      @jamesc3953 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@davidstevenson9517 Why would anyone want to hang out next to loud kids with boom boxes, and end up at a depot where kids are fighting instead of driving their own car? Public transport is great over seas, but sucks badly in NZ, may I remind you of te huias constant break downs or the fact that the busses are often late by 15mins plus.

  • @russellmurphy3678
    @russellmurphy3678 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    So you are now mentioned in NZ newspaper reports (11/11/2023 STUFF NZ) = " TH-camr and TikToker, Curls, a Brit who vlogs about places he visits, said the amount of empty buildings in Tauranga was distressing, and it made him feel sad."

  • @lesleystanton-d4l
    @lesleystanton-d4l ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Lived in Tauranga for 16 years, and have seen a dramatic decline. Yes it's pretty, and the shoreline is gorgeous. But the Council here have made it almost impossible through their lack of foresight and inherent greed, for people to shop, eat and work here. It's in the too hard/too expensive basket for most people. Rents are ridiculously high for businesses, and they are no longer getting the foot traffic they once did. Latest thing is - the council are taking away 147 car parking spaces from the Strand - We avoid going into Tauranga now, and will always choose the out of town shopping precincts with free parking and great choice of shops to spend our hard earned money - Very sad really!

  • @harrycurrie9664
    @harrycurrie9664 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    Tauranga was, and still is, a much liked retirement City but unfortunately run by a Council who seem to see it as something different. They need to bring back street parking, older people who were the mainstay of the daytime business district cannot walk miles from parking to do their shopping.

    • @brendasoares4442
      @brendasoares4442 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      They are trying to bring in 15 minute cities where ,cars are no longer needed so don't need the parking

    • @Hastenforthedawm
      @Hastenforthedawm ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@brendasoares4442 aka graveyard cities.
      Worst idea ever

  • @inzana2
    @inzana2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Take some urban sprawl. Add a heap of parking minimums. A dash of strip mall and add large serving of big box retail. Finish with a sprinkle of lifestyle blocks. You now have the s-hole above, traffic jams, unaffordable rates and economic disaster. This is the story of urban development in New Zealand.

  • @alanb9337
    @alanb9337 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    A big failure of the Tauranga CBD in recent years was the 'Harington Street Public Carpark and Transport Hub' construction project. After $19 million had been spent on the budgeted $29 million dollar project flaws were noted by construction workers. Work halted and the site could not be remedied, it was going to cost $9million to demolish the flawed building, the Council sold the site/ uncompleted building to a contractor for $1. The end result is 550 planned inner city car parking spaces have never eventuated and a central sheltered location for local bus passenger to depart from and arrive at does not exist. My own opinion after C-19, people who can afford their own vehicle & parking are still reluctant to travel on public transport such as buses unless there is no other option. Everytime I have travelled on a bus in Tauranga in recent years it is common to have at least one or more people with a cough or sneeze etc. Cameron Road's big dig started in April 2021 and the workers are still going. Cameron Road water pipes were around a 100 or more years old before their present ongoing replacement. In years ahead Tauranga is likely to be increasingly surveilled society, it is easy to imagine a CCTV camera on every street light etc, multiple cameras at traffic intersections etc. There was free on street parking in cbd Tauranga from mid-2020 to December, 2022. The free parking did help the central city a bit. The Commissioners' vanity project 'The Civic Precinct' has an initial cost of $306million dollars.

    • @timjrvine
      @timjrvine ปีที่แล้ว

      What an absolute dogs breakfast that sounds like

  • @2l8mate59
    @2l8mate59 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Tauranga is an example of bad planning from roads to the crictical infrastructure needed to support businesses such as parking, etc...Add in bumper to bumper traffic because too many people are reliant on driving their own vehicle. Public transport is not a preferred method of travel for most who live there. Try travelling from Omokoroa into Tauranga every morning. Absolutely mental. Im not even sure forcing people on to public transport would solve that traffic/roading problem. Its a mini Auckland, roading/infrastructure problems 20 years behind the times.

  • @JasonNZ42
    @JasonNZ42 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    We're still here... most of us go to nearby malls or shopping centers so we don't get screwed by the roadworks and parking fees!

  • @heatherjohnson3387
    @heatherjohnson3387 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Streets were rather empty too. All those restaurants you passed were empty both inside and out (no customers), hardly any pedestrians on those beautiful paths and roads as you walked around too. No one on the beach front. Ghost town is an accurate description sadly.

  • @kesterbradwell9871
    @kesterbradwell9871 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I'm a Kiwi and I am shocked. Not surprisingly, councils are doing this all over the country. Look at the debacle in Auckland'

    • @chrisroger4416
      @chrisroger4416 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      the result of war against cars by WEF

  • @chris101gray3
    @chris101gray3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Not unlike most towns in New Zealand. Main streets packed with Dollar saves, Takeaway shops, hairdressers....rinse and repeat. So little of interest on offer. The real kicker is the sheer audacity that parking is metered and costs you to stop and park. They call arcades "malls" and you'll find most people in the supermarkets wandering about in their pyjamas in the middle of the day. For a completely feral NZ experience, you should sample Levin. Lol

    • @regnorse
      @regnorse ปีที่แล้ว +1

      lol ikr

  • @perrindabrowski824
    @perrindabrowski824 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    After leaving Tauranga years ago, it’s crazy that going back yearly or so that the city street has been empty and for lease every time!

  • @darrelllingman63
    @darrelllingman63 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Employment opportunities are quite sparse, increasingly casualised workforce, agency work mainly.More a holiday town than a permanent home base.

    • @chrisroger4416
      @chrisroger4416 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @chrisroger4416
      0 seconds ago
      went there and drove around for 30 min looking for a park even a paid park and found nothing therein lies the problem

  • @D.Cooper420
    @D.Cooper420 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    From the outside, government corruption in NZ seems like a conspiracy theory but the longer you stay here, the more you'll realise this is exactly why these small towns have collapsed.

    • @rjh6037
      @rjh6037 ปีที่แล้ว

      You aren’t wrong. The evil of NZ Government knows no bounds. This is true of both sides, although the rot set in at light speed under The Witch of Blackrock, aka Ardern.

  • @PS-Straya_M8
    @PS-Straya_M8 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    Lol always cracks me up how British people call the ground the floor! 😂

    • @PaulG.x
      @PaulG.x ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Me too.
      You can't get any more urbanised than when you start applying building structure descriptions to the natural world

    • @DomingoDeSantaClara
      @DomingoDeSantaClara ปีที่แล้ว +7

      As a Kiwi living in the UK for 20 years, it still gets me, even a lawn can be called the floor, something I'll never get on board with.

    • @moochymooo
      @moochymooo ปีที่แล้ว +6

      My darling late hubby was English, had come over at 17, been in nz 50 yrs & still called the ground the floor 😂😂 He called seats in cars chairs😂😂. And once said to me 'don't be daft' - just the once mind! Lol'

    • @MrZexyy
      @MrZexyy ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The world didn’t lay those bricks or mosaics, it’s the floor! 😂

    • @alfnoakes392
      @alfnoakes392 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Born in Britain, but never heard that, maybe it is a Southern UK thing.

  • @lschmidt2405
    @lschmidt2405 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Anyone noticed that no NZ political party or council is FIT FOR PURPOSE these days? NZ short of houses? Transform Tauranga shops?

    • @chrisroger4416
      @chrisroger4416 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      its wef policy

  • @barrygiddey9139
    @barrygiddey9139 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Great video mate-Always look forward to the adventures you go on-it’s great what you do showing the places around NZ-Thanks again-can’t wait for the next instalment mate 🌏oh I’d love on done on Thames 👍Thanks 👀

  • @carefulconsumer8682
    @carefulconsumer8682 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This could be part of the problem: "The Tauranga City is the most expensive district within the Bay of Plenty Region, with properties reaching a median price of $875,000 in September 2023."

  • @carltwidle9046
    @carltwidle9046 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I haven't been to Tauranga for years. I think it was back in the mid 1970s. I can remember the heat. It was Summer
    In those days i wore flared denims and my hair was long. I remember being all sweaty. Tauranga is a nice place.

  • @gumbooter5562
    @gumbooter5562 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Problem with the CBD is access. There is an exisiting rail network but only allowed to use for freight trains, not passenger. The mind boggles at local and district council failure here.

    • @treacythompson8777
      @treacythompson8777 ปีที่แล้ว

      Actually when you consider what they want to build on the strand you can tell what is really happening! Go look it up!

  • @scottgresham6759
    @scottgresham6759 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I've always had a soft spot for Tauranga. It has the resources and connections to be a great city, even from an international standpoint. My Mrs urged us to go and live there, and we did...for a season. We couldn't find good jobs, we were in our 30s and doing the types of 'struggle street' jobs you do in your 20s. Parking in the city was an overwhelming challenge. Don't get me wrong, Tauranga's a beautiful city, Mt Maunganui beach and restaurants to the east, waterfalls in the south, kiwifruit and avocado orchards to the north (& south), native bush all around. I still long for Tauranga's charms, but life is too hard there, and we couldn't really fit in, in the end.

  • @thochaos13
    @thochaos13 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Down town Tauranga just keeps getting worse. It's nothing compared to what it once was.

  • @RobNotANumber
    @RobNotANumber ปีที่แล้ว +25

    My mum moved there in 2011 and the place was alive and amazing... she moved out in 2021 and by then the place had lost all it's charm. It had a great photography store... gone.. I'd move there but as you indicated many places so empty now.Bobby's is still the best ever... and there is a real issue with parking.Buses in Tauranga make the need for a car really important but the council has,like auckland, made it cost prohibitive for many. Unlike Auckland, Tauranga just doesnt have economies of scale. Added to that Tauriko shopping mall etc and the central part of town is like a ghost town now

    • @mollypowell1124
      @mollypowell1124 ปีที่แล้ว

      Tauranga still has a great photography store, Carters, in Grey Street!

  • @JupiterSaturn69
    @JupiterSaturn69 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Strategically avoids showing the growing homeless problem in NZ from 7:56

  • @MorneKotze-y4l
    @MorneKotze-y4l ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Went there for a 2 day visit from Northland a few months back. Saw the pictures, looked AMAZING! But walked exactly where you were by the pub, and saw a bunch of teenagers dressed up like gangsters, literally bullying and teasing a homeless man, and taking pictures of it while they were doing it. I sat down at the pub with family from overseas, and that same group of 14yo's walked around kicking bins, business signs and just generally being taunting towards anyone looking their way. 1st time in my life that I was uncomfortable with my surroundings in NZ. Needless to say my family too. I phoned the cops as many around me did and they showed up 80min later when these degenerates left. I cancelled my BnB and went on to Rotorua. I cant be asked to go visit Tauranga again. Sad really. Was expecting so much more from this picturesque town.

  • @keithhopkins9225
    @keithhopkins9225 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Curl’s you’re the best ambassador for New Zealand tourism, thank you!

    • @spadgm
      @spadgm ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Lol his vids actually remind me why I left.

    • @regnorse
      @regnorse ปีที่แล้ว +2

      lol ikr@@spadgm

  • @OopsieCube
    @OopsieCube ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Empty?? WHAT HAPPENED??!! I live in Perth (Aus) right now and haven't been back to NZ for the past 5 years... WOW

    • @kevinbalfour1728
      @kevinbalfour1728 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Successive Councils and unelected Commissioners have totally fucked up the place by removing carparks and putting in cycle lanes all patrolled by overzealous Parking Nazis.

  • @Heccy1961
    @Heccy1961 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The shop rents are so high its near impossible for retail shops to stay long. We dont have the same foot traffic that the UK does for volume of sales for retailers to have a chance survive long term.

  • @folksy8337
    @folksy8337 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Great videography, I appreciate a steady hand behind the camera. You nailed it in terms of our biggest issue - the empty town centre. Hopefully once the construction/renovations lesson it’ll become more accessible. Same problem as our beach though - lack of parking.

  • @kiwishitloard2568
    @kiwishitloard2568 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I grew up in rural towns in New Zealand I was told that empty shops was the first sign of a shrinking economy, this nothing new in this country it’s been going on for years.

    • @AJ_Johnson.
      @AJ_Johnson. ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That’s not necessarily true. Online retail has killed off a lot of physical retail. Chain stores kill off smaller independent businesses - like what we’re seeing with chemist warehouse. Most people bank online so banks are closing etc etc

    • @chrisroger4416
      @chrisroger4416 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      went there and drove around for 30 min looking for a park even a paid park and found nothing therein lies the problem@@AJ_Johnson.

  • @mickeybowmeister1944
    @mickeybowmeister1944 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Place was dead back in 2000 when i lived in Otumoetai. Mt was good in summer but ultimately migrated out of this over grown expensive rest home for the Sunny Coast QLD.

  • @janicehyde3914
    @janicehyde3914 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    There is plenty of people , just not in town. They are at the malls, Bayfair, The lakes, Bethlehem or down town the mount!

  • @ellisbroadhead1589
    @ellisbroadhead1589 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I’ve been in NZ 3 weeks now, went from Auckland down to Tauranga, Rotorua, Taupo and now Wellington. It does remain my favourite place I’ve visited but if I was looking to settle down to work, Auckland or Wellington for sure. Tauranga is cool but doesn’t have that permanent attraction feel to it.

  • @charmees6637
    @charmees6637 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Hi Curls I used to love Tauranga I’m so sad to see the empty shops too. Council you stuffed up big time

  • @jamesmoore6424
    @jamesmoore6424 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    So tauranga and the mount, although there is a reasonable population the area is built on tourism now. With the pandemic and no cruise ships, many businesses suffered.😢 Kiwis will do our best to build it up again, we need people like you selling the country.
    Love your work!

  • @tonymadden9021
    @tonymadden9021 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Retail is going through a major transformation. The internet, pandemic and demographic change that has decimated Main Street retail. Not just in Tauranga, but worldwide

    • @chrisroger4416
      @chrisroger4416 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      went there and drove around for 30 min looking for a park even a paid park and found nothing therein lies the problem

  • @gissyb1
    @gissyb1 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I go to Tauranga alot... I've never gone to the city centre once in 20yrs! We head to the malls..

  • @Mattmac-yc7qs
    @Mattmac-yc7qs ปีที่แล้ว +18

    To be honest I’ve been living here for the past 7 years and over time the city life has just died. don’t get me wrong I love the city and it’s beauty but it’s changed so much since I moved here in 2016

  • @nzlemming
    @nzlemming ปีที่แล้ว +4

    What day were you there? A weekday? 15:04 "Wednesday to Friday" - seems so. And what time? Obviously not a meal time. But that is one empty place.
    Also, stayed in Tauranga in the mid70s, and I never had the inclination to go back.
    Also, you glossed over the person sleeping on a bench at 15:04 - if you're going to put the place to the test, you have to report the results.
    One of the things to remember is that Tauranga is known as a conservative retirement city - it's not a bustling place, however much it wants to be. Those closed shops are the result of actual performance not meeting the ambitious business plan that said "if we build it, they will come".

  • @slamtilt01
    @slamtilt01 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I was in Tauranga a few months back and noticed all the empty shops in the downtown area where he is. It's pretty sad for sure and it's also affecting the foot traffic too I reckon. Therefore I can see even more empty shops in the near future. There was also a ton of construction work going on as well in the whole of BOP too. Lots of road works along and around Cameron road area out to Judea. I heard from locals that during lockdown people wouldn't head into town but would just shop where they lived. I assume that is or was the impetus for the empty shops. But in saying that the Bayview plaza shopping mall in Mount Maunganui was dead also. So I am thinking that the cost of living crisis is really biting in. Meaning that Temu has probably done well in this town lately.

    • @MrKurns
      @MrKurns ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Do you mean bayfair?

    • @GypsyGirl317
      @GypsyGirl317 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The council has made parking impossible, which is the biggest problem there.

    • @teevis3620
      @teevis3620 ปีที่แล้ว

      Temu... yup, shopping like a Billionare here and l don't have to pay ridiculous petrol or.parking prices to get stuff that you have to pay a left leg and right arm for.🤣
      My sunglasses cost a quarter of the price the $2 shops sell them for and they're a hella darn cooler. Seriously, people are always telling me they're cool and want to know where l got them from

    • @altbinhax
      @altbinhax ปีที่แล้ว

      Some of those empty premises looked like bank branch closures; it's happening all over. It's about online (only) and digital, shame on the banks, and governments for allowing this to happen. Face to face banking builds relationships, and access to cash is critical - Optus outage is a lesson.

    • @anniebland6450
      @anniebland6450 ปีที่แล้ว

      ... and the price's of rent is way too expensive as well. The empty shops might have a lot to do with that, including the inability to park anywhere to go shopping.
      Maybe the Council could see its way clear to free shuttles to the inner city or something. @@GypsyGirl317

  • @KMVNZ23
    @KMVNZ23 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Yeah. It's sad. It's beautiful city. But politics ruin NZ at a fast rate. 😢

  • @espaciofantazma901
    @espaciofantazma901 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    You talk to anyone, even foreigners. They'll all say that Tauranga sucks. It seems like the council is purposely trying to destroy this city. A super greedy council with the planning skills of a 2 year old. Breaking everything they touch and demanding an arm and a leg for their service.

  • @brianwheeldon4643
    @brianwheeldon4643 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    They question to ask is why so many empty shops... the answer is likely endlessly hiked leases, a feature of NZ legislation, we are a country of landlords, corporate landlords. The overriding reason though is capitalism. It's eating itself. And so many private cars and very little inadequate public transport. It's not only Tauranga, check out Auckland, it's the same in the central city. Choked with private cars in rush hour and vast underinvestment in public transport and infrastructure post WW2. We've followed the US model of town planning and endless tarmac and car-parks (what a waste of space and planet killing ugly infrastructure), unfortunately. A country that didn't follow the US is Holland. The difference with life in the inner cities in the Netherlands and New Zealand is chalk and cheese. Their inner cities are busy as with pedestrians and cyclists and small scale human sized shops, homes, and brilliant public transport, a great mix. Cheers and thanks for the walk-around. Keep up the good work and opening our eyes to the reality.

  • @studyboynz
    @studyboynz ปีที่แล้ว +13

    A bit sad seeing all those empty shops

    • @DivineVegan
      @DivineVegan ปีที่แล้ว +3

      They've all moved to Invercargill

  • @tonymartin9938
    @tonymartin9938 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The CBD has very little B. This is due to cost and council decisions to stop vehicles and parking. So try cameron road or betterstill the Mount. My workplace was in the Mount and the town is great. Then there is the beach a d the Harbour.

  • @alanberry8239
    @alanberry8239 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I travel all of NZ regularly. Tauranga is the only place where I feel unsafe to walk at night. So many gang members peddling their drugs.
    Police drive around ignoring them.
    Why would you open retail in an area with all that going on.

  • @fairynuff167
    @fairynuff167 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Blame 3yrs v roadworks. Navigating the city centre is a nightmare.

  • @theo847sqn
    @theo847sqn ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Er top tip
    Instead of getting ripped
    For your favourite condiments
    Buy small bottles from your local supermarket
    Keep them in a sandwich bag
    (Sealed)
    Try not to get too hot
    I always have my favourite sauce and it costs around 5c a go

  • @funnystuff9998
    @funnystuff9998 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I'm from Mt Manganui. I left the Tauranga area 23 years ago. When I go back, I wonder what happened to a good city and can only believe that the local council ruined the place through their idiotic Town planning. And just how many years has the roadworks been blocking up Cameron Road?
    The place just sucks.

    • @philrobbie1670
      @philrobbie1670 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      i currently have badly bruised ribs thanks to the roadworks on cameron rd

    • @cdawg8034
      @cdawg8034 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I hate Cameron road

  • @susanbrown3654
    @susanbrown3654 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Come to Whitianga. There is only 2 empty shops and they are down side roads off the main street. Massive Beach front at one end, wharf with a ferry crossing. Lots of yum fish too.

  • @1929G-y5t
    @1929G-y5t ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for uploading this. I haven't been to Tauranga in years, nice to see it again

  • @catharinabellekom2013
    @catharinabellekom2013 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The council is making sure that the roadworks done in this area is taking a very long time when in fact it should be finished a while ago. This is what is called a conspiracy. Tauranga is a great place, I live there.

  • @OnlyThe1Son
    @OnlyThe1Son ปีที่แล้ว +2

    BECAUSE the TOWN is for RICH aucklanders to vacation on weekends..
    unfortunately what weekenders dont realise is when they come down on the weekend they want some action.. well when the rents are stupid nobody wants to open a cafe or a restaurant.
    so the options are limited.. its a rip off down there...
    so it will just eventually become a rich gated community in a sense..

  • @charliebrown9643
    @charliebrown9643 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Tauranga....already had its day of 'potential'...It's gone, and will not return....!!! Due to a greedy, Tauranga Council, businesses have, and are continuing to leave the City centre. Tauranga now, gearing up...to becoming a "15 minute city". Agenda 2030 in full force.😢

  • @MaTtRoSiTy
    @MaTtRoSiTy ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I lived in Tauranga, it always had issues with having an elderly retired population but very few jobs... it was known as $10 an hour Tauranga (very low pay by NZ standards). I left there over a decade ago but the rot was already showing and it is a shame as it is a really nice coastal town

    • @MaTtRoSiTy
      @MaTtRoSiTy ปีที่แล้ว

      Lol yeah exactly @@bb-sky

  • @nzrcks
    @nzrcks ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for visiting! 😊
    Tauranga born and bred here and it's pretty sad to see our city like this now it was a thriving fun place back in the day but who wants to pay for parking down there when you have numerous malls and strip malls you can visit and get all your stuff done for free the city centre has nothing to offer the main demographic of tauranga which is families hopefully one day it will be hussling and bustling again 🤞

  • @graemelaw7995
    @graemelaw7995 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think i may add a perspective, is Tauranga the most expensive city in our country, highest rent cost. And then after greedy landlords take there slice of pie you want full shops and bustling economy? Dont blame the council, look at the short sighted people who try to take everything they can and then see what happens to your beautiful town

  • @dabadllama
    @dabadllama ปีที่แล้ว +23

    I saw the thumbnail and knew it was my home town Tauranga straight away. Haha.
    Town has been dead for a long long time now. But Bayfair mall at the mount and Tauriko shopping centre in Tauriko just near Pyes Pa in Tauranga are the main shopping places.
    There was a huge amount of construction over the past years (farmers building, the uni/polytechnic building) in Tauranga that shut off part of town which only made the situation worse. The only part of town still kind of active is the strand restaurants and bars at night it seems. It is sad to see but has been getting worse and worse for about 10 years now.

    • @kat_n_Rob_Touring_NZ
      @kat_n_Rob_Touring_NZ ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Try driving around Tauranga, it is crazy packed. And what day were you there... Early and on a week day I'm guessing

    • @dabadllama
      @dabadllama ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@kat_n_Rob_Touring_NZ I grew up there but moved to Christchurch 4 years ago. I was last up in January. Going up again in December. 😊

    • @cheetaih
      @cheetaih ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You don't know the magnitude of construction at Auckland Downtown.

    • @37hpm
      @37hpm ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The Strand : bussiness only Friday/Saturday evenings ! The MOUNT is the place to go !

  • @daniell8331
    @daniell8331 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I lived in Papamoa for years I used to hate having to go to town. I'd avoid it if I could.

  • @neildown5647
    @neildown5647 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Cool bro, strolling round Tauranga reading out names of businesses. That's some top notch travel blogging, you're the man bro 😂😂

  • @hillaryclinton7091
    @hillaryclinton7091 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thanks for reminding me why I should not pop in for a visit to the city.

  • @Hastenforthedawm
    @Hastenforthedawm ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The strangest thing is that during covid of all things, after the library was torn down they have a temporary food and hangout section which made Tauranga center lively for a few months. Despite so much roadworks, renovations and massive building projects in ye CBD the place only ends up getting more and more desolate

    • @mikejones-go8vz
      @mikejones-go8vz ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes, the container village had music, nice eateries and bars, gelato shop, why did they close it 🤔

  • @guildakriletich
    @guildakriletich ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Tauranga has outpriced itself because of outrageous council demands and restrictions. Its a shame because it is beautiful but you are right about the mosaics and footwalks, very nice, alot of potential just need to ditch the council

  • @godannz06
    @godannz06 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That was me in the carpark at the start mate was bit starstruck would have offered you a joint, I'm so sorry for ruining your Mahi 🤣 I'm as local as you can get. Tauranga Moana thanks you much love brother! Best wishes 👍🏽

  • @davidarundel6187
    @davidarundel6187 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Tauranga , isn't the only town or city in NZ, with empty shops , j and offices that are empty and going to waste .
    Wellington , both Lower & Upper Hutt , and up the coast as far as Waikanae , there's empty shops and increasing graffiti . You're fortunate you didn't meet some of the panhandlers-grifters on the streets of the twins you've visited .
    I hope you're enjoying your visits to NZ's cities .

    • @Persian-Immortal
      @Persian-Immortal ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yes, agree!
      include Otaki too!

    • @jackl4739
      @jackl4739 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Economy is recession and still going down …..

    • @rodnrach
      @rodnrach ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Waikanae is held ransom by a building owner who won't rent out space though. It's been a long standing problem. Why they own them no knew knows.

    • @Persian-Immortal
      @Persian-Immortal ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @rodnrach It's sad, Otaki has space vacant for years as well.
      Building owners live in Auckland.
      there are Millionaires.
      Those lice get tax write-off.
      It is profitable for them to keep shops vacant.

    • @regnorse
      @regnorse ปีที่แล้ว +1

      and i hear the prisons are all packed to the rafters?? what happened to NZ??

  • @kiwigirljacks
    @kiwigirljacks ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Most people go to the malls and shopping centres on the outskirts of Tauranga… The Crossing is great.

  • @Andrew_kiwi_AF
    @Andrew_kiwi_AF ปีที่แล้ว +7

    This place used to be busy 24-7, I guess inner city shopping and working is gone of the past

    • @michaelmarama-de4gx
      @michaelmarama-de4gx ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It was the best between 2000-2014 turned into ghost town since

    • @cheetaih
      @cheetaih ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@michaelmarama-de4gx What ashame. Some parts of Auckland Downtown also quite spooky as many businesses moved to suburbs.

    • @michaelmarama-de4gx
      @michaelmarama-de4gx ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@cheetaih Yes I have seen downtown Auckland, the Council is to blame for hiking the lease and rental costs. It's called greed and selfishness

    • @Andrew_kiwi_AF
      @Andrew_kiwi_AF ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@michaelmarama-de4gx I lived there 2001 - 2004 and I agree the early 2000’s was where it was cranking

    • @Andrew_kiwi_AF
      @Andrew_kiwi_AF ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@cheetaih I live in Auckland now, the last time I went to the city I was blowen away by the amount of empty shops. Due to Covid and no one coming in plus everyone working from home there simply wasn’t any people in the city spending money to keep stores alive :( it’s getting busier again thou

  • @bierstick
    @bierstick ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You connected the dots in the last few minutes of this clip.
    Yes, $3.10 for a little pottle of sauce.
    Tauranga experienced surging growth in the early - mid 2000 - 2010s. Anticipation of a new large urban centre in the BOP, based on tech growth etc., was somewhat optimistic and ahead of itself.
    It’s either close your doors or pass on the cost of improvements the city council has made on your behalf, to your customers.

  • @brigidaodonnell7053
    @brigidaodonnell7053 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I don’t know if you realise this but in New Zealand many people have decided to keep on working from home as it is better to do this than go out to work and pay exorbitant prices for your fuel

    • @shoutatthesky
      @shoutatthesky ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Many people??? You do realise that only a small fraction of jobs can be done from home? If you ask me if a job can be done at home on your computer it's probably not a necessary job and it's definitely not real work.

    • @karloftinker2832
      @karloftinker2832 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Most people don't work from home. Only those that work from home think that, I have found.

  • @rocket78able
    @rocket78able ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Was in Napier recently, still a healthy down town vibe there. No suburb shopping malls would be the reason for that.

  • @Paddymayne4738
    @Paddymayne4738 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Surely the resident should get the Federal Government involved and sort it out. What are the owners of the retail properties doing about it. THEY MUST BE LOSING MILLIONS IN RENT, AS THE TENANTS CANT PAY 5HE RENT.

  • @cmdrglass5096
    @cmdrglass5096 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    For me one of the best Fish and Chips is in The Wellington Seafood Market on Cuba St in the upper part of Cuba St and if you go a little further up you find a GREAT Thai place I am still missing the food from there !

    • @Hastenforthedawm
      @Hastenforthedawm ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Wellington has such great Thai and Malaysian food

  • @RemDog_2015
    @RemDog_2015 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I grew up in the country outside of Tauranga it was a busy place 5 years ago when I was still there. I hope you have time to visit Mt Maunganui the view from the top is well worth the climb you can see the whole Bay of Plenty from up there.

  • @donbrashsux
    @donbrashsux ปีที่แล้ว +5

    What is happening to NZ .. I really wonder 🤔

  • @thetranslator1044
    @thetranslator1044 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Auckland is the same, because most people don't have surplus to spend after paying their mortgage with the new interest rates.

  • @bethbarclay855
    @bethbarclay855 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The mount is a good shopping hub. Rice Rice Baby is a good Vietnamese place to eat. The polar dessert bar also. Bayfair is a good mall & so is TGA crossing. The best bakery is in Papamoa east next to the cinema.

    • @funtimesatbeaverfalls
      @funtimesatbeaverfalls ปีที่แล้ว

      That bakery is crap, Patricks pies is better.

    • @bethbarclay855
      @bethbarclay855 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@funtimesatbeaverfalls Patrick’s pies are awe full. So cold.

  • @mikeymofonz
    @mikeymofonz ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hope you popped over to The Mount, I think that’s where everyone is!. Stunning Beach

  • @Oldman-o6l
    @Oldman-o6l ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Not the parking all cities have parking meters and wardens it the fact there is five large shopping malls that means peiple stay in the suburbs and dont fo to town anymore.

  • @boatymcboatface666
    @boatymcboatface666 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Bring back Krazy Jacks!! 🤘 I can remember 4 night clubs, every bar, from Thursday nights to Sunday arvo, had live music, restaurants were thriving ( hospo worker) plenty of parking! WTF happened!?

  • @brett7989
    @brett7989 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The traffic and house prices have skyrocketed in Tauranga. To many moving there in to short a period. The lakes has taken over the city. It’s taken me a hour at times to go the length of cameron road and normally with low traffic only 10 minutes, Tauranga is stuffed, wages are terrible and house prices are shocking. Tauranga over 10 years ago used to follow the nz national medium . About $488000 back then. I would imagine Taurangas medium is well above the national minimum now. One good thing tho, Tauranga needs wealth Aucklands to keep prices up . Without Auckland and tga prices crash , which has started. Tauranga is also full of hopeful national party supporters, and there narrative right now is national will save the housing market

    • @regnorse
      @regnorse ปีที่แล้ว

      hope so

  • @NatMG
    @NatMG ปีที่แล้ว +2

    lmaoo I remember going to tauranga and entering the picadilly arcade and found a knife store!!? I was so confused and concerned to be honest, clearly they aren't there anymore though lol, the cafe inside of there is nice though

  • @connortimms9704
    @connortimms9704 ปีที่แล้ว

    i remember going there when i was younger with my grandmother and it was busy in the centre of the city and absolutely lovely. quite sad to see that its essentially abandoned

  • @kiwidubz
    @kiwidubz ปีที่แล้ว +1

    4:22 I thought that sign said 'Puberty Blockers' at first... 😆 thank God for that

  • @ItsSliWill
    @ItsSliWill ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is the hometown and as a person that grew up in the CBD and ran amuck with mates and also had multiple places to hang out in central city Tauranga, to see what it has become is super sad and it sucks to see. The Mount is popping off now though, that's where everyone goes to hang.

  • @downtoearth1950
    @downtoearth1950 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Adelaide City Center is also dead, too expensive to Park, and even too difficult to dtive through.1/2 the Road surfaces given over to bikes but rarely used.. Rundle st (main st) has no shade and is deserted. Also mostly empty shops

  • @paniafraser9471
    @paniafraser9471 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I moved here in 2008, back then there were a lot entertainments and shops that you would go and look, now ever since the council started to make a mess with there cones every where you turn, it made parking harder and shops you can't sometime go to cause of there dam cones. plus council has made rent harder for the owners to keep up and this is why you seen empty shops. even the roads that the council made a mess and traffic is so dramatic that the buses even have a hard time to drop of there passengers of cause of the cones blocking there bus stop, i feel sorry for Tauranga it self not the same.. i don't care what others say.. blame on council . thank you for sharing this as it may wake up everyone. the owner passed away few month ago and it has been taken over by his other family now, yip best crispy fish..

    • @martiruda
      @martiruda ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Same in Dunedin.