IF you wish on the new banner, MAKE SURE to have your guarantee of 160-170 pulls ready. Do NOT put yourself in the possibility of risking a fate point. I recorded this this morning and since then I have a better idea of why people aren't impressed with the new banner. still, it's a big upgrade than what we had and definitely an upgrade over regular triple banners IMO. But those of you who feel differently, I do understand why. The fate point system is bad, and it would have been nicer if there was a bit of a discount or something.
I see why ppl think this is bad but if you can save up 160 pulls there are no downsides to it and not only that but its just a better weapon banner bcz you only need 1 fate point. I feel like this will be the best banner to pull weapons for f2p players.
It would be nice if they exchanged this with the standard banner and letting us use Acquaint Fate instead... They should periodically change the banner regarding what event is currently happening (i.E. Lantern Rite Liyue, Windblume Mondstadt, etc.) and make it permanent..
Isn't it the same as weapon banner though? Like, u can still. Lose both fate points on weapon banner and it takes upto 200+ wishes to guarantee the one u want, with the chances of losing to the other event weapon too ....... Similarly, this banner also contains fate points system, but it can guarentee u a weapon is 160+ pulls.... Both banners transfer your base pity to next similar banner anyways, both cost intertwined fates, but this banner has more options, u can lose 50/50 to limited weapons and characters, and get standard characters that u don't have for years....
The weapons on this are actually worse than the weapon banner. On average over the same number of pulls you would average 2.5 5 star weapons on weapon banner vs two on this banner. The math says that this banner is simply worse in every way, except for getting characters or weapons that simply aren't available anymore.
Yeah, and not just "poor healer" like Gorou who doesn't heal that much Noelle heals A LOT, even more than most of dedicated healers, like 1500-2k per hit, and while dealing one of the most DPS of the game
I will say the weapon banner is so nice for endgame players that may want to upgrade their favorite units but don’t want to throw over 200 wishes into the weapon banner. This system will save you some wishes for sure which is nice and I think that’s valuable.
everyting is good with this new banner only thing that realy and i man really suck is that 50/50 loss dont go to next banner and that thing is so huge. its hard that ppl cant throw some wishes hope for 50/50 win and if they lose its still ok cuz nex time u wish would be guarantied 5 star u want but they kinda fucked it up
@@TechTesting this and that it’s 90 wishes instead of 80. Genshin trying to rip ppl off for old characters. It definitely shouldn’t cost more wishes for older characters imo.
Don’t get me wrong. I love Noelle! But her needing to be on-field and shielded for the sake of her healing and taking up time from other characters is not ideal :(
Off-field geo healer would be much more versatile than a character (noelle) that takes up time from the main dps you want to play as. At that point its just Noelle as (one of the) main dps in the team if u play her as the healer in a team with furina.
Im saving for Furina because i have her guaranteed. I cant risk missing her again, even though Kazuha would be great for my account. Neuvillette is more of an easy skip for me because i already have Ayato and although Ayato doesnt do nearly as much damage, i prefer his playstyle and flexibility
@mandarinduck There're rumours of her being an overload character which for me isn't really that exciting and would've rather her being a vaporize one since i wanted to use her with Yelan and/or Furina but they did say that her overload mechanic isn't strict to only that and she'll still work with other reactions as well which is great, overall she seems to be having a bright future (if Hoyo didn't give her Dehya treatment that is). I'd say wait for her gameplay leaks and see if you like her play style before finally deciding to pull for Furina, who knows, she might be another Neuvillette case since everyone is hyping her up and she's been anticipated for a long time now. Anyrate, i hope you have a great and lovely day and wish you good luck with your pulls 🫂
Yeah me too lol Neuvilette is the best dps rn imo but I already have 3 main dps fully raised and I have c6 sucrose to compensate for not having kazuha but I too really want Furina more. I just hope she reruns with a character that has a good weapon. I just need 85 pulls to secure her and a good 5* weapon. I got tons of pity built up
Uh dont expect her to be the best pyro dps. We dont know her mutlipliers and she might just me a yae miko where leaks said she was gonna be the strongest dps but turns out as some okay character.
@@islowclick yae miko is cracked tho 😂 she is one of my favorite pulls ever her skill puts out so much damage and electro for different setups she is S tier for me
I always believed getting constellations for the non-standard characters would be a pipe dream, now w/ the Chronicled Wish banner I’ll still take those odds
@@IveBeenWithBruma if characters like baizhu were on a liyue chronicled banner w/ hu tao and ganyu, the risk of losing 50/50 for their constellations would still be ideal
@@AzureRook Yes but that's the thing said characters are stated to only be on it after their 3rd run. Look at Eula it took her nearly 3 years to get her 3rd run.
@@IveBeenWithBruma it’s not like every player unlocked every character ever released, especially for newer players; if Chiori were released tomorrow of course it’ll be years before she’s on the Chronicled Wish banner, but if she’s a new standard character then it seems possible she’ll be on it sooner
The good thing about the new banner is that if you lose, you'd end up with a better character than what you would traditionally with limited character banners. When you lose, there's essentially a 50 percent chance you get a standard character and a 50 percent chance you get a limited character. The standards this time around aren't bad, and hopefully it's the same going forward. If they choose one strong limited character and two decent ones, the overall outcomes would be a lot better than the traditional limited wish banners. Essentially, there's a 50 percent chance you get who you want on the traditional limited wish banners, and when you lose you're gonna end up with a standard that you probably don't want. But for the chronicled, the chance you get who you want is the same, but when you lose you have a much better chance of getting someone decent, or even fairly good depending on who's on that banner at the time.
Quick correction, Hunter's Path is best in slot for Ganyu specifically for her Melt Comp. If you are looking for a generalist bow for her though Lyney's bow is actually her best all-around weapon for any build.
and then what, keep her as a doll in your museum. cause she aint providing anything new she is just another mono geo thot. Her Aesthetics wont help me explore or combat in any unique or fun way.
I have Kazhua and have been saving for Nuevellette since I lost the 50/50 on his 1st banner. I have 115 wishes saved. I am at 70 pity I have a guarantee. I will wish for his weapon because I could get it or Kazhua's weapon and both are great for my account.
I'm in the same situation too except I have neuvillette and I've been saving up for kazuha. I have 97 wishes right now, I'm at 20 pity and guaranteed. I'm also saving for neuvillette's weapon because both tome of eternal flow and freedom sword would be useful to me
I've pulled for this man in Wanderer's banner in Sumeru and since then my guy has been benched in my collections collecting dust. Now don't get me wrong, Itto is one of my favourite characters of all time and i love his gameplay style and as much as i hate to admit it, i have the best artifact on him because I've spent tons of resin on him to make him as powerful as i can with f2p builds but despite all of that, he doesn't do nearly as much damage as my other characters that I've spent less way less resin on them. But hey, if you love him then absolutely go for him, I've told you my "sad" story lol as an advice or rather warning ahaha. Anyrate, good luck with your pulls and have a great and lovely day
@@NenoVIIcan confirm as someone who is in the same exact boat, however you can always get C1/C2 Furina and now all of the sudden he can in fact keep up with top teams
@martnsalah8941 that's true, but the thing is, I'm f2p, and I'd rather get a whole new character than to get constellations to improve my damage (or play style for that matte)
Will get Kazuha as I already have Neuvilette. But if the pulls go well I may try to get C1 Neuvilette as well as he is the closest to my "main" (I use him all the time) and it opens up some more teams with him.
I agree totally about your opinion on the chronicled banner. I dont understand the negativity of other players on it. I think this is only going to be bad for those with gacha addiction. This is good for both new and old players.
I have Neuvillette and Kazuha already and I am set on getting Itto. I have around 160 pulls rn and a guarantee (will use him with Gorou, Bennet and Zhongli), so I am really excited to see what your guide will tell me about his support. If I don't really need Chiori then I will probably try for C1 Neuvilette or try for Ittos weapon.
i would personally say if you're a new player, and if your very first 5-star is either neuv or kazuha, i would recommend pulling for neuv since he's very self-sufficient i.e. he heals himself and deals a lot of damage by himself, basically he's very resource efficient early game, one man army as others like to call it (unless if an enemy is hydro resist/immune 😂). Kazuha is more a mid/endgame character since he really needs lvl 90 to feel his power, and without other built characters, he 'can' struggle to clear content by himself so you need to build other characters e.g. he will need a healer, main damage dealer etc. So if you already have a built sub dps like xiangling or fischl, getting kazuha will be a highly recommended pull. it still depends on the state of your account and your preferences. some people will not like neuv's hydro pump playstyle and say its boring. or maybe you don't like kazuha's design with the spiderman-like slipper socks. At the end of the day its up to you if you want to pull or not.
I would actually suggest kazuha to a new player because he's so good with all the overworld exploration that he's going to make your travels through the game less frustrating and cumbersome.
I second this. My main acc still struggles with bosses and domains (the elements are not optimal for them) so I had to coop a lot to farm artifacts. Neuvilette on my alt on the otherhand was way quicker to build and let's you breeze through a lot of domains and bosses easily imo.
@@redmoon9618 Right now I got Raiden, Nahida and Navia (would really like a good healer outside of Bennett), so with Neuvillette's godly range I'd be able to prock those hyperblooms from far away
Kazuha isn't NEARLY as ubiquitous as he used to be. So many teams just don't use him. Hyperbloom, Spread, Burgeon, Taser, Mono Geo, some Aggravate, Navia, Nilou, Chevruse, Furina, Hu Tao, Xiao, Wanderer, Eula... If your two or three main teams fit into those listed... you won't get much out of Kazuha. Like my Tighnari Spread, Nahida Hyperbloom, & Neuv + Furina just plain won't use Kazuha at all. My future Nilou, Alhaitham, Chevruse, and (arguably) Yae teams won't include him either. So just check that you can actually make use of Kazuha for the DPS/team comps you want to make.
First time I may go for the weapon banner on Nuevillite depending how wishes goes. Normally I would skip but I like the way both weapons look and how strong they are. Two of my favorite characters in this banner 😊
Many people tend to generalize of the ideal of support is more valuable then dps. Yes that may be true but that’s only if you already have a handful of dps in the game already. For the newer players progression is slow, and specific banner takes a long time to rerun. If you don’t figure out what you want to run as your main hyper carry or driver. Your account will always stay in the flatline investment. Be very careful of just always pulling for supports. But that’s just me though as a long term players. I know the struggle when I first started hopefully it helps. Have a great day or night everyone
It’s true you need some DPS but there’s so many more DPS than supports that it’s unlikely someone doesn’t pull for a DPS on their own. And supports like Furina Yelan xianyun kazuha and other off field dps can often carry any dps regardless of their power
@@JelloImpact I wholeheartedly agree those characters does greatly boost dps characters and drivers. They both co exist to help each other to perform better. Since banner rerun takes a long time many newer players have no idea what they really want to run. And if they do I would suggest at least a one team completion instead of just support on support but that’s just me though. Edit at the end of the day it’s all up to them what am I to say to be honest XD
As a veteran player, I'm just going to consider this as another weapon banner. The guaranteed not carrying over to the next banner is a HUGE disadvantage if you're going for one of the characters on the banner. I'll oftentimes find myself wishing for a character I want, sometimes I get them and some times I don't, but even if I don't get them, I at least know I have pity built up and a guaranteed saved up for the next character I'm interested in that comes around. Not having a guaranteed carrying over is really discouraging, at least when it comes to wishing for characters, because it does seems to be just a straight up upgrade when it comes to the weapon banner
Thanks a lot for your comments. Referring to the new Chronicle Wish Banner, I am still missing, some essential information. First how long is this banner in place - 1 day, 3 weeks, 6 weeks? Second was there any information about the 4* characters we are getting every 10 wishes? This is important because at least as low spender but veteran player, I sometimes decide to pull in the limited banner because the 4* are valuable too. For example, I skipped Xiao because I have all the featured 4* characters meanwhile at C6.
The Chronicled Wish banner supports and incentizes spending MUCH more than planning. If they wanted people to be able to plan out their pulls months ahead of time they'd release the banner schedule that far in advance. What they want is for people to wish on it, get partway through, realize they're not going to have enough pulls to get what they want before it ends, and maybe buy some currency packs to guarantee it. I still think it's a good addition overall, but the fate point aspect is unfortunate.
also it's not just a question of "gacha addiction". New players will often be in a position where they want or can use a lot of different characters, so they might try to get one when they have enough wishes to get to a five star but not to a guarantee, and if they lose, oh well, they have the guarantee for the next one. That was very much how I played the game for the first 6-9 months, I never wished on a banner for a character I didn't want but I did lose plenty of 50/50s and just moved on. Yes, it's better to plan if you can, but sometimes you can't because there wasn't enough time to save.
@@StanTheWozyou can roughly estimate when a character gets a rerun after their first one. Other than that, it is just saving game. As a new player, you need to choose carefully who to wish for, especially if u don’t plan on spending money. And no, this new banner type is not exactly for new players unless they literally started playing the game for the character that is in the new banner. It is for players who want these characters over the new/any other character(s). Or who want the specific weapon but don’t want to wait for a year or two for their rerun. It is good for those who want these characters, and on later iterations it can be even better when there are characters that even you want to pull for, but don’t know when their rerun comes. Hoping to get an early 5* is just wishful thinking, not undestanding the math. Always plan for 150-180 wishes per character, new or old player.
Bad choices made by ignorant/rash players doesn’t mean that the banner is bad. Ofc it is bad if u make bad decisions. I’m not planning on spending any wishes on the current 6 character lineup, but i hope they add characters that i am missing in the future. Maybe i’ll pull on it, maybe not. However, the weapon side is quite appealing to me as the normal weapon banner is not exactly good, and there are several weapons that i’d like to get. The math is better for weapon part of this new banner than the current weapon banner.
Luckily have both Neuvillette and Kazuha. Both on my main team…. Neuvillette is C2 with sig weapon. Looking to C6 my Dragon Sovereign 😊 I do also have Furina on Neuvillette team…
it's completely baffling that people think this new banner is a scam. Just save up 180 fates before wishing on it. That's all you need to do. Anyone can do that, F2P or not. If you don't have 180 fates and don't want to or can't obtain them in time, just skip the banner and save up for another one.
I like the unique stuff in Chiori's kit like the plunge attack or the quickswap thing. Like it's cool that i get a free plunge with ANY CHARACTER i want! I don't know if that will be enough to make her feel different enough to Albedo for me but i'll wait and see.
I don’t think as an f2p that I’ve ever been happier that I won my 50/50’s on both Kazuhas and neuvillettes most recent banners. If I hadn’t I’d be both pissed and stressed about these banners rn😂
I’ll be skipping these banners (saving for Yelan and Clorinde) but I hope Hu Tao makes it onto the new banners one day because I would love the Staff of Homa but I am never gonna pull on the weapon banner
The fate point not carrying over does suck, and it is frustrating. But I agree the banner is for the best overall. I'm someone who sometimes does a "I'll try the 50/50 and if I lose no problem, I'll save the guarantee for someone else I want" and you can still do that on normal banners. It's just this banner in specific that you need to plan for, and since it's explicitly for characters that haven't rerun recently if you really want a character you should have savings anyway. And it's just a huge win for weapons, even with the increased soft pity, lower fate points and it being a 50/50 instead of 35/75 means it'll be better.
You are not wrong about the new banner being a good thing. More options are always good. It may not be the ideal banner, but at least you won't get qiqi and those who don't need other banners will have the choice to pull on it or save.
I will say this, I have a beautiful Hu Tao, with jade spear, yelan, furina and jean, or bennet depending on the situation. So, pretty respectable I would say, she is fairly well invested, something like 60% crit rate and 200% crit damage. Now, she is just a bit better than Itto, and I don't have zhongli, I don't have c6 Gorou, I don't have redhorn, my Itto is decently invested but his ratio is nowhere near as good as Hu Tao's. So, if you get his best team, his weapn and get a competitive ratio, he's gonna hit pretty damn hard, plus his charged attacks have a pretty good AoE. When you'll be able to test him let me know if you feel the same about it because I was honestly surprised.
Honestly since I have neuvillette, I never used kazuha again. but in the end it depends on the team you play, even these two work well but they don't need each other like that need that frezze feels not having kazuha. I think that if you choose Neuvilette or Kazuha you will not lose out, they are both very good characters
I agree this new banner is mostly a W but I don't agree with narrowing down the negative to just people with gambling addiction. On the existing banners, targeting 4*s on a banner where you don't mind either outcome of the 50/50 for the 5* character is a valid strategy and isn't gambling addiction, otherwise how else are you gonna get these 4*s? For example let's say the 4* lineup on the Chronicle Wish was something like: Kuki, Faruzan and Cheveuse and the player wouldn't mind getting Eula. They put in 80 pulls, get a few cons for those 4*s but lose the 50/50 to Diluc. Well now if they choose to not pull more on this banner they're not guaranteed their chosen 5* for the next Chronicle wish. In this example they weren't pulling to satisfy their gambling addiction they were pulling because of the 4* god lineup. I say this because I'm someone who does use this pulling strategy sometimes and thanks to that I have C6 Faruzan from Xianyun's banner and C5 Kuki from Nilou's last rerun. If I didn't do risk assessment and pull for these characters they would be forever sitting at low cons like my C1 Sayu lol.
Now that's a valid argument to be made. Having no 4* rate up was definitely a miss here, especially since 4*s tend to need their cons much more. So you're right, it's mostly a W, but not the best.
My personal plan is to try go get Kazuha on my 50/50. I have a lot of wishes saved but I'm saving 160 at the least for 4.6 (iykyk). Sorry Chiori but I suppose I will have to wait for a rerun.
After this long and arduous journey from August 2023 of restarting up Genshin. I can finally end this pain of grinding for Primogems and playing Genshin, and getting teams made. I can finally get Itto
I think neuvilette for my account is more value, kazuha isnt the only character who can "really group enemies", venti is right there... Ive been using him as my grouper and am doing just fine without kazuha. Id rather get a brand new dps to play with ( also helps that I already have his weapon ) rather than a meaningless dmg upgrade to my teams that can already clear VERY well. Venti really gets too much flack and doesnt get acknowledged enough
Will be going for Chiori since I like collecting geo characters in game. Luckily I have Neuvillette and Kazuha (plus Kazuha sig weapon). Though I don’t mind wasting whatever primos I have left on Kazuha cons. Then it’s back to saving. I probably won’t touch the new banner since I have someone I’m going for on event wish and I have all of them (except Klee). I’ll wait to see what comes next for the Chronicled Banner
My feeling of the new banner: Overall it's a positive change, as it gives more reruns of older characters and a way to guarantee Standard characters BUT it's a shame, that it isn't better, like A LOT of things that Hoyo does. -No way to go for specific 4* -Not carrying over fate points, which can not be defended in any way. Both this banner and the weapon banner should carry over fate points. +We do finally have a way to get Beacon and Hunters Path... BUT these should have been added to the standard banner along with their 5* users. -This would have been a chance to bring back old event weapons
I'd honestly rather have this than having beacon and hunter's path in the standard banner. You can go for literal years without getting a single copy if you're unlucky since there's no path or rate up.
I think mona is a good support for nuke raiden. Mona's support buff is great as it scales off of ER and with Raiden, she could use the teams ER to buff her own damage too. But personally, i would go for the hunters path as i have Tighnari and ganyu.
The weapon banner is just actually better than the real weapon banner. Just if you want the weapons I'm really banking on maybe Hu Tao or ganyu being here cuz like the criteria of being limited and having three reruns isn't that easy. Like how many liyue characters fit that description?
I don’t regret getting Neuvi over Furina at all. He’s been in my “Comfy Squad” with Kuki, Zhongli, and Nahida since his release. I even have his signature weapon.
I'm a F2P player and I welcome the new banner. I've been waiting forever for Klee and for Wolfsgravestone. I'm definitely pulling for Klee. And will be saving for wolfgravstone.
I only have 1 Water Character and have to decide between my National and my Hyperbloom team so Nevi is a no-brainer for me, but I really hope I can get Kakuha too.
For me, it's less of a Neuvillette vs. Kazuha and actually a case of Kazuha vs Furina in 4.6. I'm desperately in need of Hydro characters on my account (still only Barabara and Xingqui,) so I'll be pulling for Neuvillette regardless and can guarentee him. Leaving the question then to be, is the gap between Furina and Xingqui/Yelan bigger or smaller than the gap between Kazuaha and Sucrose/Venti.
Furina is very different than Xingqiu/Yelan. She opens up new archtypes. I would choose Furina if you like her playstyle, have a character that you want to main, that needs Furina. For me, the HP going down stresses me out lol. But she's one of the strongest supports if not the strongest support in the game. Kazuha is necessary for certain DPS units, like Ayaka. His crowd control being in his skill instead of burst makes overworld easier compared to Venti. He's definitely a QoL for overworld. For team building / abyss -> Furina. For overworld QoL -> Kazuha.
@@beancake thanks for the info, I'm a reasonably new player still, so I'm open to any advice, lol. I am definitely leaning towards Furina, not just because she's a hydro unit and shes super versatile, but also because Freminet is my favourite character and I started playing the game for him during his event, so I really want to help him clear the abyss eventually and Furina seems to be in a lot of his BiS teams. Plus, the fact that I do already have Sucrose and Venti is one of my favourite characters, so I will definitely be pulling for him on his next banner, bit of a shame because I really like Kazuha as a character too, but gotta start budgeting my primogems better than I have been lol
For an F2P player, collecting 180 wishes can take a very long time. Over 4 months in my experience. It is very important to "think of this way of planning" because it is very hard to save up these many (basically double the amount of time saving up compared to the standard banner). A lot of people do not have patience for this kind of thing and can easily end up losing the 50/50 with not enough wishes left over for the character they really want.
The new banner IS good for f2p, and in time it will be better than limited banners if you want these characters, the thing is that it's brand new and nobody has pity built on it right now, so it's value will appear gradually, especially if it's up through the whole patch
I really hope you get lucky Jello. 4 characters in one patch is going to destroy your wallet 😭. Not to mention the resin for building all of them. I’m going for Chiori and Kazuha. Considering the gems from the events I should be able to squeeze out the guarantee for both of them. I can’t wait to see your Chiori guide, it seems like she has a Geo infusion and her normal attacks look so cool, I hope she has the potential to be another on-fielder. Mono Geo would be so much more interesting if she unlocked more DPS pairings like: Itto/Albedo, Itto/Chiori, and Chiori/Albedo.
i think how good the new banner is will depend more than ever on your individual account/wants, and the characters featured on the banner. for instance, lets say hu tao, shenhe, and ganyu are all on the banner, and you're an ayaka main who really wants shenhe and you have a c0 hu tao you play sorta regularly. you want shenhe as an upgrade, but ganyu can be good in ayaka teams too, and you could appreciate the QoL of a c1 hu tao, so losing the 50/50 to either of them would be better than losing the 50/50 to standard units like qiqi or diluc. ofc, you may also get a qiqi anyways, and that would suck, but you run that risk on the limited banner anyways.
always love how you never encourage players to spend / pull for a specific character! i personally will be throwing all my wishes at kazuha (and maybe neuv if i win my 50-50 but i've lost 4 in a row so we shall see)
Ye this banner just seems like the regular limited banner, with the only condition that you need to save in case you miss a 5050, which most players should be doing anyways. Im always for more flexibility when trying to go for a character i want and dont mind skipping banners to get them, so this is pretty big for me(f2p as well btw). Also the chance to lose a 5050 to another limited character seems cool.
Itto main here. I don't think Chiori adds anything to itto because itto and goru don't summon geo construct so you have to run them with a 3rd geo character that summon geo construct and so you can maximise Chiori in itto's team. Personally I think Albedo is still a better choice because you can use albedo in other team without constellation while Chiori need C1 to be more flexible
The minute I learned about the new banner, I started grinding on my challenge account (I need Tighnari's weapon). Main account is still going for Kazuha (I have guaranteed for him and already have Neuvillette) and afterward I'll just be saving for Lyney, Clorinde (if her kit is what I'm looking for), and Childe C1 (so that he's more comfortable to play to overworld and co-op). In terms of the chronicle banner, I think it's only good for weapons. It's a longer wait time to get signature weapons, but also quite a bit cheaper.
@@skyreaper1994they have to release dps characters as strong as neuvillette or else no one will pull so I think arle will be as strong or very near neuvillette
@skyreaper1994 That’s from some people leaking her move set,, of course it’s not guaranteed. But if you are into that kind of stuff, we’ll get her kit leaked during the beta for 4.6 during 4.5
I have Ayaka so I'm going for Kazuha really need a cc and his gameplay seems really fun. And my hyperbloom team with Nahida is also doing fine so there's no need for Neuvilette for now
IF you're an early player and struggling, find it hard to switch characters, want to blast through the story, literally, get Neuvilette! He WILL carry you through EVERYTHING. He is SUPER EASY to level and build unlike a lot of other characters.
I don't understand the hatw for the new banner. It looks like all good stuff. Ofc it could have had a better pity and be cheaper and and and. But to me it just feels like a great way for completionists and some new players who really want an older character
I'm definitely going for Kazuha. I would love to get Neuvillete too, but for me Kazuha is clearly the best option. He will unlock several different teams for my account AND is an amazing open world characters. I feel like I'll be using Kazuha every day, while neuvillete I feel like I would be using once or twice every 15 days when I go for the Abyss.
The Chronicle banner does support Gacha addiction. By making this banner have it's own pity system that's independent on the other banners, use Intertwine of fates and not have gurrantee carry over into the next banner, it forces players to spend money. And that is exactly what Mihoyo wants, they want to force gacha addicts to be hard press on currency that when they see a charaacter on the limited banner and chronicle banner that they want, they'll be forced to use the credit card.
suddenly remembering another key weapon that's getting its comeback: PRIMORDIAL JADE CUTTER AHHHHHHHHH 🎉🎉🎉 thinking if I should reconsider saving 180 wishes for furina or directing those wishes to pretty green blade instead this hurts 😢
My suggestion is Furina unless you are suffering a gearing backlog like I had and you think poor Furina will be stuck at level 20 for 6 months. If the sword user you plan the jade cutter for can be buffed by Furina, a C0 Furina will increase the team damage more than a Jade Cutter in most cases.
@@studiesinflux1304 what counts as gearing backlog not sure if I'm interpreting that part correctly 🥲 I feel there's backlog since not all the charas to be used have been levelled appropriately and the artifacts don't have the right mainstat yet. the most ready thing about the unfinished charas are their weapons and appropriate talents maxed at the level limit alhaitham's the first candidate to be gifted jade cutter since xingqiu (C1) and shield layla (C0) don't feel ready for it yet, and his iron sting's on hyperbloom kuki my current DPSes are childe and alhaitham, with noelle being a past DPS early AR who recently got to C6. furina probably buffs noelle much more than alhaitham, though I don't think I have appropriate supports for a potential noelle team, nor are they built
@@SaurianTravelGuide Backlog as in I accumulated more characters than what I could properly gear up for even Abyss floor 11 for quite some time, so I pulled a few weapons since those were cheaper (in resin) to level up than a whole character
@@studiesinflux1304 that makes sense - currently leaning more towards jade cutter over furina since resin is spread quite thin now and furina's second rerun is more predictable if she's still considered an archon for rerunning. jade cutter, hunter's path and bacon claymore feel harder to confirm their next return date, so that might be the eventual decision
one thing i really like about jello is how he is never pessimistic. that is something that i really hate about some creators and its so nice to have someone making these informative videos and not be so negative
As someone who often ends up turning to Itto so I can unga-bunga the Abyss, I'm most interested in Chiori! I love her design and character too, so I'm hoping she'll be a significant upgrade, but even if she isn't I'll probably get her haha
I'm going for Neuvillette. My account is in DIRE need for more DPSes (currently only have Ayato, Ganyu, Navia, Raiden and Eula and I need more Hydro DPS character because I often use Ayato as hydro applier in my Ganyu team for the AoE if Furina isn't an option. Neuvillette would be the perfect addition and I already have Kazuha so that's easy.
@@pontoon2336 well my artifacts hate my guts so she's still a work in progress. and I just want more diversity in my DPSes so I won't get locked by an Abyss floor that fully counter my DPSes, like having a floor with just Electro enemies, and Shogun, Ganyu and Ayato are not gonna make a dent in that and Navia isn't quite fit for that side... or I need them on the other side... I kinda need another one. So I'm going for Neuvillette and later Alhaitham.
I’m skipping Chiori. If she was a support for Navia then maybe I’d summon. However, I’m aiming for Kazuha he’s too good to pass up. Then hopefully have enough to get Neuv’s C1 🙏
I have Neuvi, but lost his weapon to Homa. Now I will most likely try again for the weapon, as Freedom sworn is a great one to lose to as well. Sadly won't have enough Primos to roll for Kazuha tho. But I have already Jean built and slowly building Xianyun.
The Neuvy / Kazuha tossup is tough, I don't *need* either but before they were announced they were two I did want! Perhaps I'll decision paralysis it out and wait for Arlecchino :D
IF you wish on the new banner, MAKE SURE to have your guarantee of 160-170 pulls ready. Do NOT put yourself in the possibility of risking a fate point. I recorded this this morning and since then I have a better idea of why people aren't impressed with the new banner. still, it's a big upgrade than what we had and definitely an upgrade over regular triple banners IMO. But those of you who feel differently, I do understand why. The fate point system is bad, and it would have been nicer if there was a bit of a discount or something.
I see why ppl think this is bad but if you can save up 160 pulls there are no downsides to it and not only that but its just a better weapon banner bcz you only need 1 fate point. I feel like this will be the best banner to pull weapons for f2p players.
It would be nice if they exchanged this with the standard banner and letting us use Acquaint Fate instead... They should periodically change the banner regarding what event is currently happening (i.E. Lantern Rite Liyue, Windblume Mondstadt, etc.) and make it permanent..
Isn't it the same as weapon banner though? Like, u can still. Lose both fate points on weapon banner and it takes upto 200+ wishes to guarantee the one u want, with the chances of losing to the other event weapon too ....... Similarly, this banner also contains fate points system, but it can guarentee u a weapon is 160+ pulls....
Both banners transfer your base pity to next similar banner anyways, both cost intertwined fates, but this banner has more options, u can lose 50/50 to limited weapons and characters, and get standard characters that u don't have for years....
@JelloImpact ...are u gonna pull for Mona? Or are u gonna wait to get her the normal way?
The weapons on this are actually worse than the weapon banner. On average over the same number of pulls you would average 2.5 5 star weapons on weapon banner vs two on this banner. The math says that this banner is simply worse in every way, except for getting characters or weapons that simply aren't available anymore.
"[Chiori] looks like she's like a Geo Albedo"
-IMPACT, Jello. 2024.
i was literally scrolling down here for this exact thing, lol
She's a geo keqing literally the same ass elemental skill
“Once we get a geo healer 🙂”
Noelle: am I a joke to you?
C6 zhongli(or c4 I don't remember): am I a joke to you?
@@catfacecat. Yes. Now go back to the mines, boys!
Gorou CSomething
Yeah, and not just "poor healer" like Gorou who doesn't heal that much
Noelle heals A LOT, even more than most of dedicated healers, like 1500-2k per hit, and while dealing one of the most DPS of the game
@@scharf1112 Best 4 star onfielder is a more accurate description 😆
I will say the weapon banner is so nice for endgame players that may want to upgrade their favorite units but don’t want to throw over 200 wishes into the weapon banner. This system will save you some wishes for sure which is nice and I think that’s valuable.
everyting is good with this new banner only thing that realy and i man really suck is that 50/50 loss dont go to next banner and that thing is so huge. its hard that ppl cant throw some wishes hope for 50/50 win and if they lose its still ok cuz nex time u wish would be guarantied 5 star u want but they kinda fucked it up
True but the current weapon banner has the same issue. Its not such an issue if u just save enough wishes first.
@@TechTesting this and that it’s 90 wishes instead of 80. Genshin trying to rip ppl off for old characters. It definitely shouldn’t cost more wishes for older characters imo.
@@ynnaD2413 it costs 90 wishes for all these characters now????
@@ToqrainbowI am a new player and I think that it is usually 90Pulls for Pitty. So that shouldn't be new. Most people just get their 5 Stat at 80
Geo healer that have a bit of shielding? That a wierd way to spell N O E L L E.
Nice video as always btw.
Don’t get me wrong. I love Noelle! But her needing to be on-field and shielded for the sake of her healing and taking up time from other characters is not ideal :(
ITS WEIRD I SWEAR ITS LIKE THERES THIS CHARACTER THAT POWER CREPT ZHONGLI BEFORE HE CAME OUT BUT NO ONE THINKS SHES REAL
Off-field geo healer would be much more versatile than a character (noelle) that takes up time from the main dps you want to play as.
At that point its just Noelle as (one of the) main dps in the team if u play her as the healer in a team with furina.
Im saving for Furina because i have her guaranteed. I cant risk missing her again, even though Kazuha would be great for my account. Neuvillette is more of an easy skip for me because i already have Ayato and although Ayato doesnt do nearly as much damage, i prefer his playstyle and flexibility
Good luck on your future pulls!
Trying to save for Furina too because she seems like a boon to any account, but Arlecchino is sounding better and better the more rumors come out lol
@mandarinduck There're rumours of her being an overload character which for me isn't really that exciting and would've rather her being a vaporize one since i wanted to use her with Yelan and/or Furina but they did say that her overload mechanic isn't strict to only that and she'll still work with other reactions as well which is great, overall she seems to be having a bright future (if Hoyo didn't give her Dehya treatment that is). I'd say wait for her gameplay leaks and see if you like her play style before finally deciding to pull for Furina, who knows, she might be another Neuvillette case since everyone is hyping her up and she's been anticipated for a long time now. Anyrate, i hope you have a great and lovely day and wish you good luck with your pulls 🫂
Yeah me too lol Neuvilette is the best dps rn imo but I already have 3 main dps fully raised and I have c6 sucrose to compensate for not having kazuha but I too really want Furina more. I just hope she reruns with a character that has a good weapon. I just need 85 pulls to secure her and a good 5* weapon. I got tons of pity built up
Meanwhile I'm going for Furina and I already have Nuevilette. I believe my first 5 star character was on Kazuha's release (Jean)
"The Father" is coming in 4.6 , saving my primogems for the upcoming strongest Pyro dps
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Uh dont expect her to be the best pyro dps. We dont know her mutlipliers and she might just me a yae miko where leaks said she was gonna be the strongest dps but turns out as some okay character.
@@islowclick yae miko is cracked tho 😂 she is one of my favorite pulls ever her skill puts out so much damage and electro for different setups she is S tier for me
@@dominickjadon "for you" is the key here. She is still pretty average even though she's electro but much more valuable if you have a nahida.
I always believed getting constellations for the non-standard characters would be a pipe dream, now w/ the Chronicled Wish banner I’ll still take those odds
Yah. I want more characters too
it will still take 2 years at a minimum for that to happen even with that banner because of the 3 banner limitation
@@IveBeenWithBruma if characters like baizhu were on a liyue chronicled banner w/ hu tao and ganyu, the risk of losing 50/50 for their constellations would still be ideal
@@AzureRook Yes but that's the thing said characters are stated to only be on it after their 3rd run. Look at Eula it took her nearly 3 years to get her 3rd run.
@@IveBeenWithBruma it’s not like every player unlocked every character ever released, especially for newer players; if Chiori were released tomorrow of course it’ll be years before she’s on the Chronicled Wish banner, but if she’s a new standard character then it seems possible she’ll be on it sooner
The good thing about the new banner is that if you lose, you'd end up with a better character than what you would traditionally with limited character banners. When you lose, there's essentially a 50 percent chance you get a standard character and a 50 percent chance you get a limited character. The standards this time around aren't bad, and hopefully it's the same going forward. If they choose one strong limited character and two decent ones, the overall outcomes would be a lot better than the traditional limited wish banners. Essentially, there's a 50 percent chance you get who you want on the traditional limited wish banners, and when you lose you're gonna end up with a standard that you probably don't want. But for the chronicled, the chance you get who you want is the same, but when you lose you have a much better chance of getting someone decent, or even fairly good depending on who's on that banner at the time.
I'm looking forward to liyue where I can lose the 50/50 to ganyu/shenhe. Although I'll probably still get qiqi 😅
There's no bad standard character though.
It's sad for people who need to max cons for 4 stars unfortunately
Quick correction, Hunter's Path is best in slot for Ganyu specifically for her Melt Comp. If you are looking for a generalist bow for her though Lyney's bow is actually her best all-around weapon for any build.
Nope. Amos is her BIS for general use.
@@SirindilableYelan's Aqua Simulacra actually. Amos has been downgraded for ages.
As someone who got Hunter's Path w/ 10 pulls, I never use it on Ganyu. 😂 It's situational as you said (Melt).
Rolling for chiori regardless of how good or bad she is, I just like her design
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and then what, keep her as a doll in your museum. cause she aint providing anything new she is just another mono geo thot. Her Aesthetics wont help me explore or combat in any unique or fun way.
Jello the Omni character tester 💥💪🏼🤓
Best content creator that is super chill to listen to 😊
I wrote this on my ghost account
Thank you ☺️
Appreciate you man 😊
Yess he is very enjoyable to listen too. Amazing content creator.
@@sniperlizard4192 Good to see our favorite resident with resting sad face get so much appreciation
I have Kazhua and have been saving for Nuevellette since I lost the 50/50 on his 1st banner. I have 115 wishes saved. I am at 70 pity I have a guarantee. I will wish for his weapon because I could get it or Kazhua's weapon and both are great for my account.
I'm in the same situation too except I have neuvillette and I've been saving up for kazuha. I have 97 wishes right now, I'm at 20 pity and guaranteed. I'm also saving for neuvillette's weapon because both tome of eternal flow and freedom sword would be useful to me
@@turntheradiodown Kazhua is great. I hope you get an early!
If you are a Itto main, u want Itto Cons
Have been saving for itto since forever! (Was a little offended by the thumbnail but i wont take it personally)
Same here
Same!
I've pulled for this man in Wanderer's banner in Sumeru and since then my guy has been benched in my collections collecting dust. Now don't get me wrong, Itto is one of my favourite characters of all time and i love his gameplay style and as much as i hate to admit it, i have the best artifact on him because I've spent tons of resin on him to make him as powerful as i can with f2p builds but despite all of that, he doesn't do nearly as much damage as my other characters that I've spent less way less resin on them. But hey, if you love him then absolutely go for him, I've told you my "sad" story lol as an advice or rather warning ahaha. Anyrate, good luck with your pulls and have a great and lovely day
@@NenoVIIcan confirm as someone who is in the same exact boat, however you can always get C1/C2 Furina and now all of the sudden he can in fact keep up with top teams
@martnsalah8941 that's true, but the thing is, I'm f2p, and I'd rather get a whole new character than to get constellations to improve my damage (or play style for that matte)
Will get Kazuha as I already have Neuvilette. But if the pulls go well I may try to get C1 Neuvilette as well as he is the closest to my "main" (I use him all the time) and it opens up some more teams with him.
I agree totally about your opinion on the chronicled banner. I dont understand the negativity of other players on it. I think this is only going to be bad for those with gacha addiction.
This is good for both new and old players.
It is bad for f2p players 😂
@@skyreaper1994it is not any worse than other event banners if it includes a character you want.
What do you even mean?
@@skyreaper1994 Dumb thought!!!!!
@@skyreaper1994 only for those who cant save
@@skyreaper1994 You don't have to pull...
I have Neuvillette and Kazuha already and I am set on getting Itto. I have around 160 pulls rn and a guarantee (will use him with Gorou, Bennet and Zhongli), so I am really excited to see what your guide will tell me about his support. If I don't really need Chiori then I will probably try for C1 Neuvilette or try for Ittos weapon.
i would personally say if you're a new player, and if your very first 5-star is either neuv or kazuha, i would recommend pulling for neuv since he's very self-sufficient i.e. he heals himself and deals a lot of damage by himself, basically he's very resource efficient early game, one man army as others like to call it (unless if an enemy is hydro resist/immune 😂).
Kazuha is more a mid/endgame character since he really needs lvl 90 to feel his power, and without other built characters, he 'can' struggle to clear content by himself so you need to build other characters e.g. he will need a healer, main damage dealer etc. So if you already have a built sub dps like xiangling or fischl, getting kazuha will be a highly recommended pull.
it still depends on the state of your account and your preferences. some people will not like neuv's hydro pump playstyle and say its boring. or maybe you don't like kazuha's design with the spiderman-like slipper socks. At the end of the day its up to you if you want to pull or not.
I would actually suggest kazuha to a new player because he's so good with all the overworld exploration that he's going to make your travels through the game less frustrating and cumbersome.
@@MrPinkpanzer This. Kazuha is good everywhere. You don't really need Nuevillette until you get to endgame.
Neuv heals himself!? Wtf 😭 I already thought he was OP but man lol
Ar 55 still struggling with abyss only 2-4 built characters what should I choose
I second this. My main acc still struggles with bosses and domains (the elements are not optimal for them) so I had to coop a lot to farm artifacts.
Neuvilette on my alt on the otherhand was way quicker to build and let's you breeze through a lot of domains and bosses easily imo.
I've been waiting for Neuvi for SO LONG! He will finish my raiden "bluetooth" hyperbloom team
whats your team:))
@@redmoon9618 Right now I got Raiden, Nahida and Navia (would really like a good healer outside of Bennett), so with Neuvillette's godly range I'd be able to prock those hyperblooms from far away
@@theunicyclist35 oh alr I didnt know what navia does it that tho
@@redmoon9618 Literally more damage, since geo doesn't react with anything else. With that said planning to sub her out once I get Neuvi
@@theunicyclist35 I was thinking to get neu aswell but arlecchino idk man idk what to choose
Kazuha isn't NEARLY as ubiquitous as he used to be. So many teams just don't use him.
Hyperbloom, Spread, Burgeon, Taser, Mono Geo, some Aggravate, Navia, Nilou, Chevruse, Furina, Hu Tao, Xiao, Wanderer, Eula...
If your two or three main teams fit into those listed... you won't get much out of Kazuha.
Like my Tighnari Spread, Nahida Hyperbloom, & Neuv + Furina just plain won't use Kazuha at all. My future Nilou, Alhaitham, Chevruse, and (arguably) Yae teams won't include him either.
So just check that you can actually make use of Kazuha for the DPS/team comps you want to make.
100% going for Kazuha. I’ve lost his 50/50 in the past twice and I’m determined to finally build the boy
First time I may go for the weapon banner on Nuevillite depending how wishes goes. Normally I would skip but I like the way both weapons look and how strong they are. Two of my favorite characters in this banner 😊
Many people tend to generalize of the ideal of support is more valuable then dps. Yes that may be true but that’s only if you already have a handful of dps in the game already. For the newer players progression is slow, and specific banner takes a long time to rerun. If you don’t figure out what you want to run as your main hyper carry or driver. Your account will always stay in the flatline investment. Be very careful of just always pulling for supports. But that’s just me though as a long term players. I know the struggle when I first started hopefully it helps. Have a great day or night everyone
It’s true you need some DPS but there’s so many more DPS than supports that it’s unlikely someone doesn’t pull for a DPS on their own. And supports like Furina Yelan xianyun kazuha and other off field dps can often carry any dps regardless of their power
@@JelloImpact I wholeheartedly agree those characters does greatly boost dps characters and drivers. They both co exist to help each other to perform better. Since banner rerun takes a long time many newer players have no idea what they really want to run. And if they do I would suggest at least a one team completion instead of just support on support but that’s just me though. Edit at the end of the day it’s all up to them what am I to say to be honest XD
As a veteran player, I'm just going to consider this as another weapon banner. The guaranteed not carrying over to the next banner is a HUGE disadvantage if you're going for one of the characters on the banner. I'll oftentimes find myself wishing for a character I want, sometimes I get them and some times I don't, but even if I don't get them, I at least know I have pity built up and a guaranteed saved up for the next character I'm interested in that comes around. Not having a guaranteed carrying over is really discouraging, at least when it comes to wishing for characters, because it does seems to be just a straight up upgrade when it comes to the weapon banner
Damn the weapon banner will be amazing
I have to say with Furina, getting C1 Neuvilette is mighty tempting.
Thanks a lot for your comments. Referring to the new Chronicle Wish Banner, I am still missing, some essential information. First how long is this banner in place - 1 day, 3 weeks, 6 weeks? Second was there any information about the 4* characters we are getting every 10 wishes? This is important because at least as low spender but veteran player, I sometimes decide to pull in the limited banner because the 4* are valuable too. For example, I skipped Xiao because I have all the featured 4* characters meanwhile at C6.
The Chronicled Wish banner supports and incentizes spending MUCH more than planning. If they wanted people to be able to plan out their pulls months ahead of time they'd release the banner schedule that far in advance. What they want is for people to wish on it, get partway through, realize they're not going to have enough pulls to get what they want before it ends, and maybe buy some currency packs to guarantee it.
I still think it's a good addition overall, but the fate point aspect is unfortunate.
also it's not just a question of "gacha addiction". New players will often be in a position where they want or can use a lot of different characters, so they might try to get one when they have enough wishes to get to a five star but not to a guarantee, and if they lose, oh well, they have the guarantee for the next one. That was very much how I played the game for the first 6-9 months, I never wished on a banner for a character I didn't want but I did lose plenty of 50/50s and just moved on. Yes, it's better to plan if you can, but sometimes you can't because there wasn't enough time to save.
@@StanTheWozyou can roughly estimate when a character gets a rerun after their first one. Other than that, it is just saving game.
As a new player, you need to choose carefully who to wish for, especially if u don’t plan on spending money.
And no, this new banner type is not exactly for new players unless they literally started playing the game for the character that is in the new banner. It is for players who want these characters over the new/any other character(s). Or who want the specific weapon but don’t want to wait for a year or two for their rerun.
It is good for those who want these characters, and on later iterations it can be even better when there are characters that even you want to pull for, but don’t know when their rerun comes.
Hoping to get an early 5* is just wishful thinking, not undestanding the math. Always plan for 150-180 wishes per character, new or old player.
Bad choices made by ignorant/rash players doesn’t mean that the banner is bad. Ofc it is bad if u make bad decisions.
I’m not planning on spending any wishes on the current 6 character lineup, but i hope they add characters that i am missing in the future. Maybe i’ll pull on it, maybe not. However, the weapon side is quite appealing to me as the normal weapon banner is not exactly good, and there are several weapons that i’d like to get. The math is better for weapon part of this new banner than the current weapon banner.
but you literally always have to save in this game
This games easy af , pull for who you want
Rolling for Itto's weapon. I need it for my physical xinyan.
Luckily have both Neuvillette and Kazuha. Both on my main team…. Neuvillette is C2 with sig weapon. Looking to C6 my Dragon Sovereign 😊 I do also have Furina on Neuvillette team…
Jello:Once we get a geo healer/shielder...
Noelle: funny you should mention that, I think we already have one in the game 🤔
it's completely baffling that people think this new banner is a scam. Just save up 180 fates before wishing on it. That's all you need to do. Anyone can do that, F2P or not. If you don't have 180 fates and don't want to or can't obtain them in time, just skip the banner and save up for another one.
See, Neuvilette is actually my favorite character coincidentally, I'm just so excited he's getting a rerun
Is it bad I just want Hunter's Path for my c1 Tighnari next patch >.< Good luck on your pulls all!! ty 4 the vid!!
I like the unique stuff in Chiori's kit like the plunge attack or the quickswap thing. Like it's cool that i get a free plunge with ANY CHARACTER i want! I don't know if that will be enough to make her feel different enough to Albedo for me but i'll wait and see.
I sure hope they release a character that allows ANY CHARACTER i want to get 8 free plunges in a row
Just a thought tho, probably never gonna happen 😢
@@xr_c5516doesn’t xianyun already do that?
@@xr_c5516 pull for Xianyun anyone can plunge like Xiao!
@@xr_c5516 wait isn’t that what Xianyun does? I’m assuming she doesn’t get up to 8?
@@dominickjadon in all of the teams where I play her, the buffs expire at around 5-6 plunges, so I don’t do the full 8 plunges. she does give 8 tho
Also, it's worth mentioning that Furina will probably run in 4.6. So it's really Neuvilette vs Kazuha vs Furina, for deciding who to pull.
Chiori + Noelle weapon banner is amazing! 🥰 Going for it 100% I hope Kirara will be there as well.🤞
I don’t think as an f2p that I’ve ever been happier that I won my 50/50’s on both Kazuhas and neuvillettes most recent banners. If I hadn’t I’d be both pissed and stressed about these banners rn😂
I’ll be skipping these banners (saving for Yelan and Clorinde) but I hope Hu Tao makes it onto the new banners one day because I would love the Staff of Homa but I am never gonna pull on the weapon banner
Yeah I want homa too in the next banner, and I dont need c1 because plunge tao is pretty fun to use
Weapon banner is better if you want both of the weapons
15:05 They actually said that the banner is going away on the QnA.
People complaining about the new banner are dense as hell.
The fate point not carrying over does suck, and it is frustrating. But I agree the banner is for the best overall. I'm someone who sometimes does a "I'll try the 50/50 and if I lose no problem, I'll save the guarantee for someone else I want" and you can still do that on normal banners. It's just this banner in specific that you need to plan for, and since it's explicitly for characters that haven't rerun recently if you really want a character you should have savings anyway.
And it's just a huge win for weapons, even with the increased soft pity, lower fate points and it being a 50/50 instead of 35/75 means it'll be better.
Before pulling, I suggest you all waiting for next drip marketing. Your waifu might be coming next patch.
Well kazuha is my drip boy, so I'm fine.
Yep, waiting for Arlechinno!! I am safe because I have my bois Neuvi and Kazuha!!
You are not wrong about the new banner being a good thing. More options are always good. It may not be the ideal banner, but at least you won't get qiqi and those who don't need other banners will have the choice to pull on it or save.
I will say this, I have a beautiful Hu Tao, with jade spear, yelan, furina and jean, or bennet depending on the situation. So, pretty respectable I would say, she is fairly well invested, something like 60% crit rate and 200% crit damage. Now, she is just a bit better than Itto, and I don't have zhongli, I don't have c6 Gorou, I don't have redhorn, my Itto is decently invested but his ratio is nowhere near as good as Hu Tao's. So, if you get his best team, his weapn and get a competitive ratio, he's gonna hit pretty damn hard, plus his charged attacks have a pretty good AoE. When you'll be able to test him let me know if you feel the same about it because I was honestly surprised.
I am tempted to get Itto cause he is a fun character in his story quest and in the Interlude Chapter, and the Beetle Fighting Events, Of course!
Honestly since I have neuvillette, I never used kazuha again. but in the end it depends on the team you play, even these two work well but they don't need each other like that need that frezze feels not having kazuha. I think that if you choose Neuvilette or Kazuha you will not lose out, they are both very good characters
I agree this new banner is mostly a W but I don't agree with narrowing down the negative to just people with gambling addiction. On the existing banners, targeting 4*s on a banner where you don't mind either outcome of the 50/50 for the 5* character is a valid strategy and isn't gambling addiction, otherwise how else are you gonna get these 4*s?
For example let's say the 4* lineup on the Chronicle Wish was something like: Kuki, Faruzan and Cheveuse and the player wouldn't mind getting Eula. They put in 80 pulls, get a few cons for those 4*s but lose the 50/50 to Diluc. Well now if they choose to not pull more on this banner they're not guaranteed their chosen 5* for the next Chronicle wish. In this example they weren't pulling to satisfy their gambling addiction they were pulling because of the 4* god lineup.
I say this because I'm someone who does use this pulling strategy sometimes and thanks to that I have C6 Faruzan from Xianyun's banner and C5 Kuki from Nilou's last rerun. If I didn't do risk assessment and pull for these characters they would be forever sitting at low cons like my C1 Sayu lol.
I don't think chronicle will have featured 4 stars
Now that's a valid argument to be made. Having no 4* rate up was definitely a miss here, especially since 4*s tend to need their cons much more. So you're right, it's mostly a W, but not the best.
I already got Neuvillette c1 and I will be wishing for Kazuha but I'm really considering trying to go for Neuvillette's weapon
My personal plan is to try go get Kazuha on my 50/50. I have a lot of wishes saved but I'm saving 160 at the least for 4.6 (iykyk). Sorry Chiori but I suppose I will have to wait for a rerun.
After this long and arduous journey from August 2023 of restarting up Genshin. I can finally end this pain of grinding for Primogems and playing Genshin, and getting teams made. I can finally get Itto
Going for Itto because I just like him!
I think neuvilette for my account is more value, kazuha isnt the only character who can "really group enemies", venti is right there... Ive been using him as my grouper and am doing just fine without kazuha. Id rather get a brand new dps to play with ( also helps that I already have his weapon ) rather than a meaningless dmg upgrade to my teams that can already clear VERY well. Venti really gets too much flack and doesnt get acknowledged enough
I already have both kazuha nad neuvillette so im gonna try to get c1 neuvillette
Will be going for Chiori since I like collecting geo characters in game. Luckily I have Neuvillette and Kazuha (plus Kazuha sig weapon). Though I don’t mind wasting whatever primos I have left on Kazuha cons. Then it’s back to saving. I probably won’t touch the new banner since I have someone I’m going for on event wish and I have all of them (except Klee). I’ll wait to see what comes next for the Chronicled Banner
My feeling of the new banner:
Overall it's a positive change, as it gives more reruns of older characters and a way to guarantee Standard characters
BUT it's a shame, that it isn't better, like A LOT of things that Hoyo does.
-No way to go for specific 4*
-Not carrying over fate points, which can not be defended in any way. Both this banner and the weapon banner should carry over fate points.
+We do finally have a way to get Beacon and Hunters Path... BUT these should have been added to the standard banner along with their 5* users.
-This would have been a chance to bring back old event weapons
Nicely said
I'd honestly rather have this than having beacon and hunter's path in the standard banner. You can go for literal years without getting a single copy if you're unlucky since there's no path or rate up.
@@icecell One doesn't exclude the other.
They could add beacon and HP to the standard banner AND give another option to obtain it.
I think mona is a good support for nuke raiden. Mona's support buff is great as it scales off of ER and with Raiden, she could use the teams ER to buff her own damage too. But personally, i would go for the hunters path as i have Tighnari and ganyu.
The weapon banner is just actually better than the real weapon banner. Just if you want the weapons
I'm really banking on maybe Hu Tao or ganyu being here cuz like the criteria of being limited and having three reruns isn't that easy. Like how many liyue characters fit that description?
Ganyu, Xiao, Hutao and Yelan (I also asume the standars would be there: Qiqi and Keqing).
I don’t regret getting Neuvi over Furina at all. He’s been in my “Comfy Squad” with Kuki, Zhongli, and Nahida since his release. I even have his signature weapon.
I'm a F2P player and I welcome the new banner. I've been waiting forever for Klee and for Wolfsgravestone. I'm definitely pulling for Klee. And will be saving for wolfgravstone.
I only have 1 Water Character and have to decide between my National and my Hyperbloom team so Nevi is a no-brainer for me, but I really hope I can get Kakuha too.
For me, it's less of a Neuvillette vs. Kazuha and actually a case of Kazuha vs Furina in 4.6. I'm desperately in need of Hydro characters on my account (still only Barabara and Xingqui,) so I'll be pulling for Neuvillette regardless and can guarentee him. Leaving the question then to be, is the gap between Furina and Xingqui/Yelan bigger or smaller than the gap between Kazuaha and Sucrose/Venti.
Furina is very different than Xingqiu/Yelan. She opens up new archtypes. I would choose Furina if you like her playstyle, have a character that you want to main, that needs Furina. For me, the HP going down stresses me out lol. But she's one of the strongest supports if not the strongest support in the game.
Kazuha is necessary for certain DPS units, like Ayaka. His crowd control being in his skill instead of burst makes overworld easier compared to Venti. He's definitely a QoL for overworld.
For team building / abyss -> Furina. For overworld QoL -> Kazuha.
@@beancake thanks for the info, I'm a reasonably new player still, so I'm open to any advice, lol.
I am definitely leaning towards Furina, not just because she's a hydro unit and shes super versatile, but also because Freminet is my favourite character and I started playing the game for him during his event, so I really want to help him clear the abyss eventually and Furina seems to be in a lot of his BiS teams. Plus, the fact that I do already have Sucrose and Venti is one of my favourite characters, so I will definitely be pulling for him on his next banner, bit of a shame because I really like Kazuha as a character too, but gotta start budgeting my primogems better than I have been lol
For an F2P player, collecting 180 wishes can take a very long time. Over 4 months in my experience. It is very important to "think of this way of planning" because it is very hard to save up these many (basically double the amount of time saving up compared to the standard banner). A lot of people do not have patience for this kind of thing and can easily end up losing the 50/50 with not enough wishes left over for the character they really want.
The only good thing as of now about the chronical banner is that we can finally get Tighnari and Dehya weapon
The new banner IS good for f2p, and in time it will be better than limited banners if you want these characters, the thing is that it's brand new and nobody has pity built on it right now, so it's value will appear gradually, especially if it's up through the whole patch
The new banner is a massive dub bc all the 4 stars are Mondstatters, *including Kaeya, Amber, and Lisa*. Wish on this banner right tf now.
I really hope you get lucky Jello. 4 characters in one patch is going to destroy your wallet 😭. Not to mention the resin for building all of them.
I’m going for Chiori and Kazuha. Considering the gems from the events I should be able to squeeze out the guarantee for both of them. I can’t wait to see your Chiori guide, it seems like she has a Geo infusion and her normal attacks look so cool, I hope she has the potential to be another on-fielder. Mono Geo would be so much more interesting if she unlocked more DPS pairings like: Itto/Albedo, Itto/Chiori, and Chiori/Albedo.
i think how good the new banner is will depend more than ever on your individual account/wants, and the characters featured on the banner. for instance, lets say hu tao, shenhe, and ganyu are all on the banner, and you're an ayaka main who really wants shenhe and you have a c0 hu tao you play sorta regularly. you want shenhe as an upgrade, but ganyu can be good in ayaka teams too, and you could appreciate the QoL of a c1 hu tao, so losing the 50/50 to either of them would be better than losing the 50/50 to standard units like qiqi or diluc. ofc, you may also get a qiqi anyways, and that would suck, but you run that risk on the limited banner anyways.
Going for Kazuha and Beacon (maybe also hunter’s depending on my luck). Very thankful the first phase is a major skip for me!
always love how you never encourage players to spend / pull for a specific character! i personally will be throwing all my wishes at kazuha (and maybe neuv if i win my 50-50 but i've lost 4 in a row so we shall see)
Lyney’s bow is BiS for Ganyu but otherwise it’s Hunter’s Path yeah
As a new player with all the advice from streamers Kazuha will be the best pick here. I'm especially saving for the fatui emo gal on 4.6
as someone who was lucky enough to get c1 neuvilette on his release, im 100% going to wish for my boy kazuha
Ye this banner just seems like the regular limited banner, with the only condition that you need to save in case you miss a 5050, which most players should be doing anyways. Im always for more flexibility when trying to go for a character i want and dont mind skipping banners to get them, so this is pretty big for me(f2p as well btw). Also the chance to lose a 5050 to another limited character seems cool.
Itto main here. I don't think Chiori adds anything to itto because itto and goru don't summon geo construct so you have to run them with a 3rd geo character that summon geo construct and so you can maximise Chiori in itto's team.
Personally I think Albedo is still a better choice because you can use albedo in other team without constellation while Chiori need C1 to be more flexible
Who knows ushi might count?
I love every geo character, Im rolling for chiori no matter what🔥
I am at garunteed with very little primos . Which one should I go for ?
Arrlechino or nuevillet ?
Let’s wait for 4.5; for Neuvillette, and for Arlecchino's beta of 4.6. Then see. 🗿👍
I skipped on the Cheif Justice in favor of Furina last fall. Not making that same mistake twice.
The minute I learned about the new banner, I started grinding on my challenge account (I need Tighnari's weapon). Main account is still going for Kazuha (I have guaranteed for him and already have Neuvillette) and afterward I'll just be saving for Lyney, Clorinde (if her kit is what I'm looking for), and Childe C1 (so that he's more comfortable to play to overworld and co-op).
In terms of the chronicle banner, I think it's only good for weapons. It's a longer wait time to get signature weapons, but also quite a bit cheaper.
As much as I want Neuvi I gotta save for Arlecchino and a potential Liyue Chronicle Wish
arle will be the same level of dps as neuvi and her cons will be at a similar level if not even higher than his so ur not missing out either way.
@@ashenzenden source?? Trust me bro? 😂
@@skyreaper1994they have to release dps characters as strong as neuvillette or else no one will pull so I think arle will be as strong or very near neuvillette
@@IronInspirations12agreed.. the leaks also said that arle is hutao v2 lol
@skyreaper1994 That’s from some people leaking her move set,, of course it’s not guaranteed. But if you are into that kind of stuff, we’ll get her kit leaked during the beta for 4.6 during 4.5
I have Ayaka so I'm going for Kazuha really need a cc and his gameplay seems really fun.
And my hyperbloom team with Nahida is also doing fine so there's no need for Neuvilette for now
IF you're an early player and struggling, find it hard to switch characters, want to blast through the story, literally, get Neuvilette! He WILL carry you through EVERYTHING. He is SUPER EASY to level and build unlike a lot of other characters.
I don't understand the hatw for the new banner. It looks like all good stuff. Ofc it could have had a better pity and be cheaper and and and. But to me it just feels like a great way for completionists and some new players who really want an older character
I think its because it uses the limited wishes instead of standard wishs(which you can get by just playing the game and leveling up characters)
I'm definitely going for Kazuha. I would love to get Neuvillete too, but for me Kazuha is clearly the best option. He will unlock several different teams for my account AND is an amazing open world characters.
I feel like I'll be using Kazuha every day, while neuvillete I feel like I would be using once or twice every 15 days when I go for the Abyss.
Exactly what I had in mind😩
The Chronicle banner does support Gacha addiction. By making this banner have it's own pity system that's independent on the other banners, use Intertwine of fates and not have gurrantee carry over into the next banner, it forces players to spend money. And that is exactly what Mihoyo wants, they want to force gacha addicts to be hard press on currency that when they see a charaacter on the limited banner and chronicle banner that they want, they'll be forced to use the credit card.
suddenly remembering another key weapon that's getting its comeback: PRIMORDIAL JADE CUTTER AHHHHHHHHH 🎉🎉🎉
thinking if I should reconsider saving 180 wishes for furina or directing those wishes to pretty green blade instead this hurts 😢
My suggestion is Furina unless you are suffering a gearing backlog like I had and you think poor Furina will be stuck at level 20 for 6 months.
If the sword user you plan the jade cutter for can be buffed by Furina, a C0 Furina will increase the team damage more than a Jade Cutter in most cases.
@@studiesinflux1304 what counts as gearing backlog not sure if I'm interpreting that part correctly 🥲 I feel there's backlog since not all the charas to be used have been levelled appropriately and the artifacts don't have the right mainstat yet. the most ready thing about the unfinished charas are their weapons and appropriate talents maxed at the level limit
alhaitham's the first candidate to be gifted jade cutter since xingqiu (C1) and shield layla (C0) don't feel ready for it yet, and his iron sting's on hyperbloom kuki
my current DPSes are childe and alhaitham, with noelle being a past DPS early AR who recently got to C6. furina probably buffs noelle much more than alhaitham, though I don't think I have appropriate supports for a potential noelle team, nor are they built
@@SaurianTravelGuide Backlog as in I accumulated more characters than what I could properly gear up for even Abyss floor 11 for quite some time, so I pulled a few weapons since those were cheaper (in resin) to level up than a whole character
@@studiesinflux1304 that makes sense - currently leaning more towards jade cutter over furina since resin is spread quite thin now and furina's second rerun is more predictable if she's still considered an archon for rerunning. jade cutter, hunter's path and bacon claymore feel harder to confirm their next return date, so that might be the eventual decision
I'll pull on the banner that has Kirara as a rate up. I wouldn't mind getting a c1 Neuv or Chiori along the way.
Im actually thinking of going for Stonethresher
one thing i really like about jello is how he is never pessimistic. that is something that i really hate about some creators and its so nice to have someone making these informative videos and not be so negative
average mint picker lol
You can dolphin on that new banner as free to play if you save wishes.
PLZ help c1 Neuvillette , Kazuha or Furina ? (I cant 36 the abbys yet)
Kazhuha
Either Furina or Kazuha. C0 Neuvilette is more than enough for abyss.
As a husbando collector, I'm going for Neuvillette. Then Alhaitham if he gets a banner after this one (as speculated). But that's just me :3
As someone who often ends up turning to Itto so I can unga-bunga the Abyss, I'm most interested in Chiori! I love her design and character too, so I'm hoping she'll be a significant upgrade, but even if she isn't I'll probably get her haha
I'm going for Neuvillette. My account is in DIRE need for more DPSes (currently only have Ayato, Ganyu, Navia, Raiden and Eula and I need more Hydro DPS character because I often use Ayato as hydro applier in my Ganyu team for the AoE if Furina isn't an option. Neuvillette would be the perfect addition and I already have Kazuha so that's easy.
You still need more dps? Lol whereas, I'm satisfied with my only dps - Navia
@@pontoon2336 well my artifacts hate my guts so she's still a work in progress.
and I just want more diversity in my DPSes so I won't get locked by an Abyss floor that fully counter my DPSes, like having a floor with just Electro enemies, and Shogun, Ganyu and Ayato are not gonna make a dent in that and Navia isn't quite fit for that side... or I need them on the other side... I kinda need another one. So I'm going for Neuvillette and later Alhaitham.
I’m skipping Chiori. If she was a support for Navia then maybe I’d summon. However, I’m aiming for Kazuha he’s too good to pass up. Then hopefully have enough to get Neuv’s C1 🙏
I have Neuvi, but lost his weapon to Homa. Now I will most likely try again for the weapon, as Freedom sworn is a great one to lose to as well. Sadly won't have enough Primos to roll for Kazuha tho. But I have already Jean built and slowly building Xianyun.
The Neuvy / Kazuha tossup is tough, I don't *need* either but before they were announced they were two I did want! Perhaps I'll decision paralysis it out and wait for Arlecchino :D
I'm definitely going for Neuvillette, but I'll probably wait for the next stream to decide on whether or not I'll try going for Eula lol