@@rameezpatel8784 I was going to say that you blew mee mind, but the more I think about it, the more I realize that we are constantly "moving" through time, I write "moving" in quotation marks because time and space are two axis of reality, but not the same. Anyway, you do point to something so obvious that many times we forget it is real.
Focus on a surton specific event in time than try to visulaize it like you there and than focus on the details!try to be compleetly in the moment and look around
I'm not a mathematician, so that language is beyond my scope, but having listened to many physicists explain time and space in their own terms, Lee Smolin makes the most sense to me. He doesn't have a final answer, but his explanations comport with my own uneducated view of space and time. It's comforting to know that there's someone out there in the field who is respected and who has come to see that my view of the world is quite possible from a scientific perspective. If you'd been laughed at as many times as I have by physicists or had gotten those glaring stares as much as I have, that means something.
Lawrence you are in my head. All of your videos have plagued me all of my 45 yrs. Thank you for sharing your journey with us like minded people. But it is all consciousness, there is no thing else.
May I ask, how you know that there is nothing but consciousness? Seems a bold claim when the scientific method seems to tell us there is a physical reality independent of human perception.
It's not all consciousness. There is baseline reality but it is forever out of reach. Each consciousness is an attempt to interpret reality and the scientific method is the best we will ever come up with. The scientific method and mathematics is an approximation of reality. Both are systems designed to guide our brains to try and understand what all this is, but us being trapped in our own senses, all our attempts will only scratch the surface of baseline reality. Still awesome. Life is life
What Robert is doing is truly amazing. Seeking the truth in the mix of solid science and biased beliefs. There is no consensus on time no matter how successful are theories backed by empirical evidence. And to put ot simply thete is no time only abstract clocks conveniently located wherever we need them. But scientist don't like the mystery to disappear so they keep supporting mythologies.
It's common misunderstanding that it is possible to go back and forth in space. Matter defines spacetime and when you are moving forward then the space behind you is not the same space - there the defining matter has been changed - you can never go back to the past position but when you imagine you turned back, you only turned the direction where was the next forward direction. Space and time are really equal.
when i was very young maybe 6 years old and i was told to wait 5 minutes or 10 minutes for something i would look at the clock and man it really felt like forever. and people would say thats because your young time will go faster as you get older implying that its a figment of the imagination. But as i am learning these things i realize now that it was not a figment of my imagination time really was going so slow for me and that it most likely has something to do with my size that i was was much smaller in relation to the earth then adults. and then it all made sense. on a side note its nice to know we have all lived a life time no matter how fast we die. and imagine how long time is for a microscopic organism. when i was real young it felt like the time would never come that i die but we know that it will come. so all that matters is what lays ahead and what is out there in space and beyond our dimensions even. when you think about why anything at all rather then nothing at least for me i am understanding that its because it had to be and most likely everything had to be and there is no such thing as nothing.. in fact that is the meaning of nothing, that it don't exist. so don't worry you are here and will always be here.
Nothing is when we did not measure or practice. Can you practice or praying "infinity times" a day and to be realistic you have to measure to be specific for example by praying "five times" a day with reference to nature days and nights , direction and purpose to be real and acceptable in mortal domain. Else non existence and meaningless when in immortal domain. We don't know because we did measure time but lacking of practices or experiments or level of 'infinity" dimensions missing except TIME, GRAVITY, ELECTROMAGNET, WEAK and STRONG NUCLEAR FORCES. Be prompt in doing good deeds (time is real and measurable) by turbulence which would be like a part of the dark night (time is not real and cannot be specifically measured.) During (that stormy period) a man would be reality in the morning and an not real in the evening or he would be a reality in the evening and not real in the morning, and lost his "faith" from something real into nothing for not measuring and be specifically good. Something good and true will be rewarded real and vice versa.
But be aware that he was trying to make sure that lay people would understand what ge was saying. The _real_ theory is more involved and requires at least perhaps one semester for you to grasp. For example, when he says that the speed of light is the same as measured by observers moving in any way. That's actually an oversimplification. The observers must be inertial.
@@User-jr7vf thank you and as a businessman interested in this subject, I appreciate Mr. Thorne’s efforts to help viewers comprehend what is he saying.
I have the feeling that I am always "here" and always "there". I could take you to the exact location of my 5th Birthday and I think I am still there in time in the everlasting "now". All time exists in an eternal now.
I think time being emergent is a very simple and coherent theory, and it ties well with the simplest theory of personal identity. We feel as if time exists, and that is because we remember our past but not our future, and we can differentiate between 1 second ago and 5 seconds ago, that is just the way our brains evolved. There is a certain order in which our mental states occur, from past to future. There is no reason for this order, or for time to be fundamental. It is a useless ontological commitment. We experience things in a certain order, which alligns with classical laws of physics for a simple reason that those classical laws were developed by information processing system which works in time. So you measure ball's velocity at t=1, then t=2, then t=3 and so on. You don't measure it at t=3 and then at t=1 and then at t=2 and then try to develop a set of equations that would support such evolution in such time, it is not evolutionary benefitial at all for us to have such method as even somehow intuitive. Imagine knowing just all the states of the ball without knowing the time, you can try developing laws of physics for each possible ball-state combination, and you will likely find that the simplest ruleset is the one that describes the evolution of ball-states in the same time we experience. This is because our brain is an object, just like the ball, and all the information processing in it is more likely to occur by the simplest ruleset which is the one that matches with the order in which we experience things. Here is my argument: I can imagine such a bundle of ball-states that the simplest ruleset explains a certain succession of those given ball-states does not match with the simplest ruleset that explains the succession of states of the information processing system that is studying the ball's movement. Time is the order in which information is processed. There is nothing fundamental about that order. It just happens to allign well with everything else happening in the physical world, for reasons described above. It could be that it does not allign, although I am sure it is mathematically very unlikely. So the picture that follows from this: there is a bundle of mental states. Those are experienced in a certain succession, each of them feels like it occured after the previous one. This succession is emergent. I actually have a very simple argument for that order being emergent. Let's suppose it's fundamental. If order is fundamental, t1 t2 t3 is different from t3 t2 t1. Let's say t1 is experiencing rock flying into the window, t2 - rock breaking the window, t3 - aftermath. t3 feels like continuation of t2 and t1, because it contains memory about those. If you reorder the mental states so that t3 is the first, t3 still contains the memory of t2 and t1, it still feels continuous with t2 and t1. And t1 does not become such that it contains the feeling of being continuous with t3. Reordering the mental states did nothing, as the contents of those mental states didn't change. The subject of the subjective experience realized in those mental states will experience the same thing regardless of the "order" of his mental states. Given that, there is no reason for an ontological commitment to the existence of any specific order as it does not make any difference.
Thanks for these videos. I'm not a Scientist. I'm just a regular person with many questions and a thirst for answers. Your quest to find answers to my difficult questions is commendable.
I would postulate that time is emergent from space and that no space is impossible (a vacuum is still a space with feilds.). Our brightest minds are experts at rationalising, analysing and justifying any point in or about our Universe.
Knowledge and understanding is the most precious gift. Mr. Khun’s contribution in bringing us all Closer To Truth is invaluable; respect, kudos and sincere appreciation to him as we continue to follow him on our journey of discovery. This respect comes all the way from Hong Kong 🙏🏼.
God created time and is outside time hahahahaha thank you Jesus. By the way I believe Robert was saved and is with the Lord thank you Jesus hahahagaga the joy of the Lord is my STRENGTH HAHAHAHA 🙏
With the way brains work, only parts of it are in your head. Your brain has to make room for many things that are important, like memories that are important to you.
There is no time...only now....our identity is a constant always present in the now...so its a I AM...think about a "past"event and you relive it as though you are experiencing it...same with "future"...I want this type car is only because youve experienced the feeling of owning it as NOW..thats how we get goals...in.my practice I helped most people to stop reliving past experiences..im a clinical.psychologist....ive not had a watch or clock for over 30 years and ive never been late...stop thinking time and your internal watcher keeps you always "on time"....we only move through events..seasons...but ALWAYS as me now...the eternal I AM
The way some of these guys, like that Nima dude, will just rattle of facts and figures related to concepts and principles like Plank length in a "of course everybody knows that," sort of manner always blows my mind. It's not done in a I'm the smartest guy in the room kind of way, it's just how they roll. His stream of consciousness is vastly different from mine that's for sure.
Couple of questions: (1) how is believing in the Block Universe concept different from believing in destiny/fate? (2) The Harvard scientist talks about gravity as though it is independent or separate from Spacetime. But I was under the impressions that gravity _is_ spacetime; didn't Einstein say that gravity is simply the physical manifestation of spacetime! curvature? (3) how can we think of gravity and quantum mechanics at the same time? (I know.. that's the unification that great minds have been/are after). My question is, to talk about any meaningful existence of gravity, don't we we need massive or at least a substantial or significant amount of mass, which quantum mechanical entities just do not offer?
Could there be causation at the planck space / length, which also produces the future beneath the planck time? What might causation look like physically?
Thank you! I can sense my conceptual horizon expanding as I watch your videos. (The word gravity leapt to my mind a few minutes before one of your interviewees brought it up.)
Since the space and time are relatives and everything exists in spacetime can be reduced to information that is perceivable only by consciousness thus fundamental quantities must be consciousness and information("knowledge").
@@Hank254 After millenia of reasoning we still do not have the slightest idea what consciousness is. The reason for that could be very simple: it is fundamental. You can't see the forest for the trees 😉
@@djgenetic111 What you are doing is called an 'argument from ignorance', it is a type of logical fallacy. You don't get to admit that we don't have the slightest idea what something is and then proceed to draw conclusions about it. Mat made a statement that since everything in spacetime can be reduced to information, it must be fundamental. I am saying that does not follow, it is not a good reason conclude something is fundamental. I can take pictures of things in spacetime too but that doesn't mean everything reduces to pictures. If someone wants to claim that consciousness and/or information are fundamental, they are perfectly welcome to demonstrate it.
4:18 Strong parallels with children or grandchildren. As a parent, you are constantly sending information backwards in time in a sense to avert disasters but never being able to realize that world for yourself. You try to give them hints and advice earlier in their youth than you understood that information in yours. Their reality is a split dimension of what yours could have been.
Nothing but the intervals to which we attach names: hour, minute, second. Einstein demonstrated in 1905 that time does not exist, its only valid expression is as a variable.
As is everything in the matrix in which we interface with; name and give meanings too, to what we we perceive. And has been preformed before our time of being. As there is no duality because we are all as one with the universe. consciously connected, yet unexplainable.
I wrote a time travel story that suggests time going forward in two different universes, but in different directions, thus allowing a person to go backward in time by traversing to the other universe. The rate of time is also different between them.
I like the way the first guy describes time, he's getting closer to the truth. A time traveller would be able to master skills at seemingly superhuman speeds wouldn't they. because they could simply spend hours practicing and then return to the point in time where they started learning and look like a genius. If someone could manipulate time that would make them invincible next to those that couldn't. They would know things they shouldn't know. They could have entered a room heard a conversation, then gone back in time and never entered that room and still known what was said leaving the occupants wondering are they guessing? they couldn't possibly know that could they? Think about it, I wouldn't mess with a time traveller, neither should you.
Antoine Suárez proved that at sub-atomic level TIME does not exist; Richard Feynman proved that TIME for a positron is inverted from that of an electron, and travels from his future to his past (the reason for signal +); At macroscopic level (our level) TIME flows from the past to the future (The Arrow of TIME flows in the way entropy increases). So, what do we have here about TIME? Well, ..... a hell of a mess!
LOL it's too much information ha ha. He has talked to all the smartest people! I hope he just makes a video set ... the whole world has a chance to view
Got lost in there but since my brain organises my life around space, time and cups of tea, I managed to find a way out of the maze and survive and i feel ok again...😉🤔🤕
It's funny to me that people think any of this is new... Many cultures have understood non-linear time. I'm thinking of Japanese koans, only the thing about koans is that, funny enough, the only way for you to grasp their meaning is for you to encounter the right one at the right moment. As many Zen Buddhists have attempted to explain, you can lead the horse to water but you can't make it drink. You can't explain a koan to someone, a wise teacher can only present it to a pupil when the teacher intuits that it's the correct moment for the student to begin thinking about it.
What in the world am I missing here? Isn't it obvious to everyone that time is a human construct to organize our lives and that it doesn't actually exist whatsoever in the universe. Time is just simply reality playing itself out in the moment where existence lives. These people are batshit crazy.
*Correct* An overlay of the self as thoughts projected on to the world around you; quantum > quantifiable (countable ) hence about anyone loses it contemplating infinities if they do it right as most human mind needs finites to get ahold of something - quantum creates a "field" which is the commonly grasped Space & Time ▬ You can be sure that it *Isn't it obvious to everyone* though they do occasionally sometimes go non-finite for a moment might be 0-1-2-3-4-5.....events in a lifetime which is immediately blocked out due to the elephant in the room phenomena
13:10 , Block universe is limited, in your mind your imagination or in dreams . You can time travel to the future and come back, it’s the memory that needs to be worked on, that vail between awakening and sleep needs to be lifted, people that do dream studies understand and some have experienced time travel
Perhaps we do occasionally jump in time but if we go back an hour, we are the person again from an hour ago again and have no memory from what happened since. (what Benson said I guess) But are we even able to know in any way, we took a step back in time ? We might jump back or freeze in time but our brains produces memories only via growing entropy, so we would never remember. We can physiologically only live a time as a straight line into the future. All deviations are not registered. Who knows a déja vu experience is the result of some form of keeping memories of jumbled time jumps we had.
Dear Bob, Yeah if you are moving at relativistic speed so spacetime can flex, Kip, et. al.. In practice these thing should be imperceptible at every day speeds, right? Why don’t I adjust the massive energy of space so I can move relativistically to the stars? Why don’t I adjust time so I would do that? Just wondering 🤨
Temperature is familiar to our senses we can feel it. Time isn't familiar to any of our 5 senses, it might feel like it's passing but that isn't a literal feeling. but rather psychological.
The two times axes universe intrigued me. Tell me if this sounds like a reasonable objection: the argument here is I can imagine a universe where there are two axes of time yet that would bring up many paradoxes, break causation, and is also inconceivable by us. But it is possible. Why think so? If you say that something is possible are you not supposing that you logical faculties find no contradiction in its existence? Thus, when you say something is inconceivable are you not saying that it lacks internal mental coherence? I get he is trying to argue a deeper point that it is but beyond our mental function to understand. But that doesn’t seem to be what is true. For the idea of several time axes is developed in the mind, then we ask ‘can this exist in reality?’ The answer to that question will likewise come form the mind. Therefore, in both cases we are presupposing our mind’s rationality has external usage. But if you then say that I suppose an idea which I know via my mind, then propose that the idea is paradoxically to our minds, then suppose that it is a possible idea external to our minds, are you not still supposing that third idea by your mind? Therefore, there is a contradiction in these premises. Therefore, such a universe cannot exist if we are accepting the efficaciousness of human cognitive faculties to not only apprehend rationality but also that said rationality is applicable to the metaphysical landscape. Of course, this assumption cannot be denied for to deny said assumption is to accept it. For you are still saying that the world functions in a way external to you and you know the way in which it does function. Namely not in accordance with your mental function. But that’s a mental function.
13:38 his analogy using the book to explain block universe was fantastic.. I believe similar, except I think there are an almost infinite number of remainders to the story, each potential until the page is read. Think of a book that gives you the opportunity to have free will, and to an extent, choose how the story unfolds.
Try imagining that there's no such thing as time. I mean try seriously hard. Then look at the stuff around you and at the universe and see that nothing has changed. There still be stuff and it still be moving at which point you might realize that 'time' is not more than an extremely useful concept making it much, much easier to think about how some moving things relate to other moving things. In short, existing things don't need 'time' to prevent them from popping out of existence.
re book analogy - with a book - we can easily move flip back to previous pages - or flip forward to "future" pages - how do we do that with the block universe - outside of scifi
@@johneyon5257 "if time stops" Time cannot stop because time is not actually existent. Nothing freezes in place because everything that actually exists is moving with inertia. After a lifetime of thinking that time is a something, it might take a while to realize that it's not. Time is a concept so ubiquitous in our language that we are no longer conscious that when we speak of time we are really only speaking about the relative movements of objects and we speak this way because it's more convenient and efficient. You know with great certainty that there is no delicate antenna in a clock being induced to oscillate by a flowing river of metaphor. And you know there's a reason why the mechanism at the core of every clock is called a 'movement'.
@@REDPUMPERNICKEL - i see - - time is an illusion - it is confused with changing relationships - which are real - but time is not - - that could be viewed differently - that time emerges from changing relationships
We exist....time is a man made idea of measurement and movement ....that exists in man"s mind ...its a system that we came up with to try and understand our existence ...When our brains keep evolving ...we will understand more of what our surroundings and reality are ...We just know the truth of what we have discovered using this system...so it seems real to us If man hadnt invented the clock ...we would be discussing something else ....we are here ...we exist it is what it is ...with all its assumptions using a man made system that exists in man's mind . A being with higher intelligence than us and has more access to brain power will have a completely different set of rules and knowledge and so forth . At this level this is what we know and see and feel and sense Closer to the real truth will be known once it is revealed to us ...next level
When did Time become a global term like Snow? To Eskimos it is useful to have many words for many types of snow one encounters, as one encounters it. Like Time, Snow is personal. If we only speak of A Time, it's easy to see that it is nonessential. At first our mental experiments seem dependent on Time or Spacetime. But our mental experiments are rarely dependent on A Time, so we can ignore Time as a parameter.
Lee Smolin was by far my favorite interviewed expert in this episode... thank you.
The cheapest way of time travel is taking a nap, you close your eyes and leap into the future.
Right that's why we all are time travellers 😆😆
you’ve time travelled from the time you started reading this comment to right now
@@rameezpatel8784 I was going to say that you blew mee mind, but the more I think about it, the more I realize that we are constantly "moving" through time, I write "moving" in quotation marks because time and space are two axis of reality, but not the same. Anyway, you do point to something so obvious that many times we forget it is real.
Focus on a surton specific event in time than try to visulaize it like you there and than focus on the details!try to be compleetly in the moment and look around
You’ll get more value out of death
I'm not a mathematician, so that language is beyond my scope, but having listened to many physicists explain time and space in their own terms, Lee Smolin makes the most sense to me. He doesn't have a final answer, but his explanations comport with my own uneducated view of space and time. It's comforting to know that there's someone out there in the field who is respected and who has come to see that my view of the world is quite possible from a scientific perspective. If you'd been laughed at as many times as I have by physicists or had gotten those glaring stares as much as I have, that means something.
You just got another laugh.
Lawrence you are in my head. All of your videos have plagued me all of my 45 yrs. Thank you for sharing your journey with us like minded people. But it is all consciousness, there is no thing else.
May I ask, how you know that there is nothing but consciousness? Seems a bold claim when the scientific method seems to tell us there is a physical reality independent of human perception.
@@sirkamyk9886 a reality created by consciousness.
It's not all consciousness. There is baseline reality but it is forever out of reach. Each consciousness is an attempt to interpret reality and the scientific method is the best we will ever come up with. The scientific method and mathematics is an approximation of reality. Both are systems designed to guide our brains to try and understand what all this is, but us being trapped in our own senses, all our attempts will only scratch the surface of baseline reality. Still awesome. Life is life
What Robert is doing is truly amazing. Seeking the truth in the mix of solid science and biased beliefs. There is no consensus on time no matter how successful are theories backed by empirical evidence. And to put ot simply thete is no time only abstract clocks conveniently located wherever we need them. But scientist don't like the mystery to disappear so they keep supporting mythologies.
This podcast is truly outstanding. I so appreciate professor Kuhn's intelligent explorations of the thinking of the best minds.
It's common misunderstanding that it is possible to go back and forth in space. Matter defines spacetime and when you are moving forward then the space behind you is not the same space - there the defining matter has been changed - you can never go back to the past position but when you imagine you turned back, you only turned the direction where was the next forward direction. Space and time are really equal.
when i was very young maybe 6 years old and i was told to wait 5 minutes or 10 minutes for something i would look at the clock and man it really felt like forever. and people would say thats because your young time will go faster as you get older implying that its a figment of the imagination. But as i am learning these things i realize now that it was not a figment of my imagination time really was going so slow for me and that it most likely has something to do with my size that i was was much smaller in relation to the earth then adults. and then it all made sense. on a side note its nice to know we have all lived a life time no matter how fast we die. and imagine how long time is for a microscopic organism. when i was real young it felt like the time would never come that i die but we know that it will come. so all that matters is what lays ahead and what is out there in space and beyond our dimensions even. when you think about why anything at all rather then nothing at least for me i am understanding that its because it had to be and most likely everything had to be and there is no such thing as nothing.. in fact that is the meaning of nothing, that it don't exist. so don't worry you are here and will always be here.
Nothing is when we did not measure or practice. Can you practice or praying "infinity times" a day and to be realistic you have to measure to be specific for example by praying "five times" a day with reference to nature days and nights , direction and purpose to be real and acceptable in mortal domain. Else non existence and meaningless when in immortal domain. We don't know because we did measure time but lacking of practices or experiments or level of 'infinity" dimensions missing except TIME, GRAVITY, ELECTROMAGNET, WEAK and STRONG NUCLEAR FORCES. Be prompt in doing good deeds (time is real and measurable) by turbulence which would be like a part of the dark night (time is not real and cannot be specifically measured.) During (that stormy period) a man would be reality in the morning and an not real in the evening or he would be a reality in the evening and not real in the morning, and lost his "faith" from something real into nothing for not measuring and be specifically good. Something good and true will be rewarded real and vice versa.
BTW - Kip Thorne’s articulation of relativity was masterful in its simplicity and clarity.
But be aware that he was trying to make sure that lay people would understand what ge was saying. The _real_ theory is more involved and requires at least perhaps one semester for you to grasp. For example, when he says that the speed of light is the same as measured by observers moving in any way. That's actually an oversimplification. The observers must be inertial.
@@User-jr7vf thank you and as a businessman interested in this subject, I appreciate Mr. Thorne’s efforts to help viewers comprehend what is he saying.
We need to understand what time isn't, so we can narrow down what time could be!
The more I try to understand time, the more my brain hurts...
Do you mean like a process of elimination.
One of my favourite channel on TH-cam!
Great episode.
I really enjoyed this one.
Pure mental bliss
I have the feeling that I am always "here" and always "there". I could take you to the exact location of my 5th Birthday and I think I am still there in time in the everlasting "now". All time exists in an eternal now.
Or rather, time does not exist. It's the way matter behaves that make us perceive the illusion of time passing by.
I think time being emergent is a very simple and coherent theory, and it ties well with the simplest theory of personal identity. We feel as if time exists, and that is because we remember our past but not our future, and we can differentiate between 1 second ago and 5 seconds ago, that is just the way our brains evolved. There is a certain order in which our mental states occur, from past to future.
There is no reason for this order, or for time to be fundamental. It is a useless ontological commitment. We experience things in a certain order, which alligns with classical laws of physics for a simple reason that those classical laws were developed by information processing system which works in time. So you measure ball's velocity at t=1, then t=2, then t=3 and so on. You don't measure it at t=3 and then at t=1 and then at t=2 and then try to develop a set of equations that would support such evolution in such time, it is not evolutionary benefitial at all for us to have such method as even somehow intuitive. Imagine knowing just all the states of the ball without knowing the time, you can try developing laws of physics for each possible ball-state combination, and you will likely find that the simplest ruleset is the one that describes the evolution of ball-states in the same time we experience. This is because our brain is an object, just like the ball, and all the information processing in it is more likely to occur by the simplest ruleset which is the one that matches with the order in which we experience things.
Here is my argument: I can imagine such a bundle of ball-states that the simplest ruleset explains a certain succession of those given ball-states does not match with the simplest ruleset that explains the succession of states of the information processing system that is studying the ball's movement. Time is the order in which information is processed. There is nothing fundamental about that order. It just happens to allign well with everything else happening in the physical world, for reasons described above. It could be that it does not allign, although I am sure it is mathematically very unlikely.
So the picture that follows from this: there is a bundle of mental states. Those are experienced in a certain succession, each of them feels like it occured after the previous one. This succession is emergent.
I actually have a very simple argument for that order being emergent. Let's suppose it's fundamental. If order is fundamental, t1 t2 t3 is different from t3 t2 t1. Let's say t1 is experiencing rock flying into the window, t2 - rock breaking the window, t3 - aftermath. t3 feels like continuation of t2 and t1, because it contains memory about those. If you reorder the mental states so that t3 is the first, t3 still contains the memory of t2 and t1, it still feels continuous with t2 and t1. And t1 does not become such that it contains the feeling of being continuous with t3. Reordering the mental states did nothing, as the contents of those mental states didn't change. The subject of the subjective experience realized in those mental states will experience the same thing regardless of the "order" of his mental states. Given that, there is no reason for an ontological commitment to the existence of any specific order as it does not make any difference.
I like the argument. I will add that the emergence floating in order does give rise to importance. I don’t see how it can be irrelevant.
Or put more simply,
time is a concept only and
this concept is vastly more convenient than
talking about the relative movements of different objects.
Thanks for these videos. I'm not a Scientist. I'm just a regular person with many questions and a thirst for answers. Your quest to find answers to my difficult questions is commendable.
I'm not sure if this show is taking me closer to truth or closer to head explosion but i love every episode. Thanks!
Me 🤯🤯🤯🤯 but I still try lol.
Two axes of Time... that's my mind blown for a week or two!
There is no real time outside without human awareness.
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I would postulate that time is emergent from space and that no space is impossible (a vacuum is still a space with feilds.). Our brightest minds are experts at rationalising, analysing and justifying any point in or about our Universe.
Knowledge and understanding is the most precious gift. Mr. Khun’s contribution in bringing us all Closer To Truth is invaluable; respect, kudos and sincere appreciation to him as we continue to follow him on our journey of discovery. This respect comes all the way from Hong Kong 🙏🏼.
God created time and is outside time hahahahaha thank you Jesus.
By the way I believe Robert was saved and is with the Lord thank you Jesus hahahagaga the joy of the Lord is my STRENGTH HAHAHAHA 🙏
"what do you feel?".... You can see the real enthusiasm and struggle on Robert.
Time is natures way of preventing everything from happening at once.
Its Such s treat being able to listen to these conversations.
Best channel on you tube 🙏🙏
Time is a loop, Perfectly spiraling out and back in to itself.
Really good!
I sometimes look at books that I have read, or even stacks of books, and think, "All of that is in my head."
With the way brains work, only parts of it are in your head.
Your brain has to make room for many things that are important, like memories that are important to you.
Very beautiful videos thanks .... worth millions and millions of love
All it takes is one curious human being.Dear author thank you for genuinely being curious and putting out all the knowledge to the world.
The way the audio repeated at 8:46 as they were talking about how crazy time was...had me thinking I entered a time loop
🤣 But the audio didn’t repeat, it’s just that they were excited.
One of my best episode, thanks !
Real about time is both the potential time + the realized time.
Fantastic as usual
When were these shows produced?
Loving this channel.
Its good but the delimma is that only one can know truth through personal experience but i love this show.
I love you
One of my absolute favorites!💯🥰🖤
Same!
I really wish Robert Lawrence Kuhn would interview me on these topics. I have ALL the answers!
love this show for along time BTW. im pausing it and going over it again and looking up definitions.
Time is contingent on individual perception. Blows your mind to try and conceive it.
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Time is contingent because Time is a concept. Only.
Time is measured causality.
It takes time to get closer to truth
I believe this is this is the closest.
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Time is just the freedom to move
Phenomenal
Pleasure overload.
Is e=mc^2 exact, or is it an approximation, like the fine structure constant?
Thanks
There is no time...only now....our identity is a constant always present in the now...so its a I AM...think about a "past"event and you relive it as though you are experiencing it...same with "future"...I want this type car is only because youve experienced the feeling of owning it as NOW..thats how we get goals...in.my practice I helped most people to stop reliving past experiences..im a clinical.psychologist....ive not had a watch or clock for over 30 years and ive never been late...stop thinking time and your internal watcher keeps you always "on time"....we only move through events..seasons...but ALWAYS as me now...the eternal I AM
The way some of these guys, like that Nima dude, will just rattle of facts and figures related to concepts and principles like Plank length in a "of course everybody knows that," sort of manner always blows my mind. It's not done in a I'm the smartest guy in the room kind of way, it's just how they roll. His stream of consciousness is vastly different from mine that's for sure.
So time is conciousness
If you mean that
time is a concept maintained in the minds of some conscious people then
I agree with ya.
One of the best episodes. Congrats Robert! I would have asked the very same question about the existence of the future in block universe... 😊
Couple of questions: (1) how is believing in the Block Universe concept different from believing in destiny/fate? (2) The Harvard scientist talks about gravity as though it is independent or separate from Spacetime. But I was under the impressions that gravity _is_ spacetime; didn't Einstein say that gravity is simply the physical manifestation of spacetime! curvature? (3) how can we think of gravity and quantum mechanics at the same time? (I know.. that's the unification that great minds have been/are after). My question is, to talk about any meaningful existence of gravity, don't we we need massive or at least a substantial or significant amount of mass, which quantum mechanical entities just do not offer?
What about time in multiple universes (classical)? Can there be causation from one classical universe to the next?
kuhn's face when the guy says 'two axis of tome', so good. same here :-)
Could there be causation at the planck space / length, which also produces the future beneath the planck time? What might causation look like physically?
I feel same Sir🇮🇳 time is illusion Sir🇮🇳
It is real that time is a concept of the rate of motion intrinsically from each heart and mind.
Time--The absolute unit
Time is not a thing
it is a word that describes change.
In other words
time is a concept only.
I just love kip Thorne. Genius mind
Closing was closer to truth
Thank you! I can sense my conceptual horizon expanding as I watch your videos. (The word gravity leapt to my mind a few minutes before one of your interviewees brought it up.)
Does the entire universe experience the same moments of time, or causation in the present?
I am a simply a devotee of your curiosity and lucidity.
Space creates time!
Great episode. All that in 26:46!
Since the space and time are relatives and everything exists in spacetime can be reduced to information that is perceivable only by consciousness thus fundamental quantities must be consciousness and information("knowledge").
So minus SELF one can perceive it.
Our consciousnesses can reduce things to information but that does not imply that consciousness and information are fundamental.
@@Hank254 After millenia of reasoning we still do not have the slightest idea what consciousness is. The reason for that could be very simple: it is fundamental. You can't see the forest for the trees 😉
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What you are doing is called an 'argument from ignorance', it is a type of logical fallacy. You don't get to admit that we don't have the slightest idea what something is and then proceed to draw conclusions about it.
Mat made a statement that since everything in spacetime can be reduced to information, it must be fundamental. I am saying that does not follow, it is not a good reason conclude something is fundamental. I can take pictures of things in spacetime too but that doesn't mean everything reduces to pictures.
If someone wants to claim that consciousness and/or information are fundamental, they are perfectly welcome to demonstrate it.
@@Hank254 Check out the work of Donald Hoffman, it's really interesting.
4:18
Strong parallels with children or grandchildren. As a parent, you are constantly sending information backwards in time in a sense to avert disasters but never being able to realize that world for yourself. You try to give them hints and advice earlier in their youth than you understood that information in yours. Their reality is a split dimension of what yours could have been.
Nothing but the intervals to which we attach names: hour, minute, second. Einstein demonstrated in 1905 that time does not exist, its only valid expression is as a variable.
Hurray..you also know this!!!!
As is everything in the matrix in which we interface with; name and give meanings too, to what we we perceive. And has been preformed before our time of being. As there is no duality because we are all as one with the universe. consciously connected, yet unexplainable.
I believe time fits better as an emergent dimension, not a fundamental one
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Intresting topic just the other day I said time can be manipulated I hear you !
I wrote a time travel story that suggests time going forward in two different universes, but in different directions, thus allowing a person to go backward in time by traversing to the other universe. The rate of time is also different between them.
"In this field you have to be a perfect physical specimen or you are not talking.."
I like the way the first guy describes time, he's getting closer to the truth. A time traveller would be able to master skills at seemingly superhuman speeds wouldn't they. because they could simply spend hours practicing and then return to the point in time where they started learning and look like a genius. If someone could manipulate time that would make them invincible next to those that couldn't. They would know things they shouldn't know. They could have entered a room heard a conversation, then gone back in time and never entered that room and still known what was said leaving the occupants wondering are they guessing? they couldn't possibly know that could they? Think about it, I wouldn't mess with a time traveller, neither should you.
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Could that be a graviton where space-time breaks down into black hole at the planck units?
Why can't I imagine half a Planck unit?
Every one feels time no one knows time.
Antoine Suárez proved that at sub-atomic level TIME does not exist;
Richard Feynman proved that TIME for a positron is inverted from that of an electron, and travels from his future to his past (the reason for signal +);
At macroscopic level (our level) TIME flows from the past to the future (The Arrow of TIME flows in the way entropy increases).
So, what do we have here about TIME? Well, ..... a hell of a mess!
All I can say, it's about TIME ~ !
Beautiful!
I can't wait until he writes a book with all the knowledge he's been collecting
you mean like 'it's about time' .....
@@termikesmike That's a perfect book title!
LOL it's too much information ha ha. He has talked to all the smartest people! I hope he just makes a video set ... the whole world has a chance to view
Is photon speed of light communicating information of past causation?
Got lost in there but since my brain organises my life around space, time and cups of tea, I managed to find a way out of the maze and survive and i feel ok again...😉🤔🤕
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It's funny to me that people think any of this is new... Many cultures have understood non-linear time. I'm thinking of Japanese koans, only the thing about koans is that, funny enough, the only way for you to grasp their meaning is for you to encounter the right one at the right moment. As many Zen Buddhists have attempted to explain, you can lead the horse to water but you can't make it drink. You can't explain a koan to someone, a wise teacher can only present it to a pupil when the teacher intuits that it's the correct moment for the student to begin thinking about it.
What in the world am I missing here? Isn't it obvious to everyone that time is a human construct to organize our lives and that it doesn't actually exist whatsoever in the universe. Time is just simply reality playing itself out in the moment where existence lives. These people are batshit crazy.
*Correct* An overlay of the self as thoughts projected on to the world around you; quantum > quantifiable (countable ) hence about anyone loses it contemplating infinities if they do it right as most human mind needs finites to get ahold of something - quantum creates a "field" which is the commonly grasped Space & Time ▬ You can be sure that it *Isn't it obvious to everyone* though they do occasionally sometimes go non-finite for a moment might be 0-1-2-3-4-5.....events in a lifetime which is immediately blocked out due to the elephant in the room phenomena
13:10 , Block universe is limited, in your mind your imagination or in dreams . You can time travel to the future and come back, it’s the memory that needs to be worked on, that vail between awakening and sleep needs to be lifted, people that do dream studies understand and some have experienced time travel
Is start and an end the most fundamental to understanding of time?
Time feels more like a measurement relative to the observer....
Perhaps we do occasionally jump in time but if we go back an hour, we are the person again from an hour ago again and have no memory from what happened since. (what Benson said I guess)
But are we even able to know in any way, we took a step back in time ?
We might jump back or freeze in time but our brains produces memories only via growing entropy, so we would never remember. We can physiologically only live a time as a straight line into the future. All deviations are not registered. Who knows a déja vu experience is the result of some form of keeping memories of jumbled time jumps we had.
Beautiful work as always 👏 Boy, I wish we knew the truth about time, it's the topic that intrigues me the most
Maybe you wouldn't like the answer.
Dear Bob, Yeah if you are moving at relativistic speed so spacetime can flex, Kip, et. al.. In practice these thing should be imperceptible at every day speeds, right?
Why don’t I adjust the massive energy of space so I can move relativistically to the stars? Why don’t I adjust time so I would do that? Just wondering 🤨
I think time is as real as temperature is. Nobody talks about if temperature is "real".
Temperature is familiar to our senses we can feel it. Time isn't familiar to any of our 5 senses, it might feel like it's passing but that isn't a literal feeling. but rather psychological.
By publishing about time and space, I am the first metaphysician philosopher to challenged Einstein's theory, 30 years ago. What is concerning is that there would not be any challenges in regards to my person.
After all, I was also 30 years younger.
This delay in acquiring knowledge of the utter is disturbing. Indication that there are multy standards and negotiations. A deceptive element that want to credit itself and ignore the origin.
A destructive way of competing. Yet, in the process it is dancing in the dark, and waiting for you to dance with it.
As far as I know, no one can get away or pull the rug from under for too long.
Sooner or later, it catches on either this life or after. But what should be crucial to any individuals is this one.
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Metaphysician philosopher
I don't have the words to express how I love that show. I need more of that great thinking presented here. Thanks, happy Christmas to all of you.
The two times axes universe intrigued me. Tell me if this sounds like a reasonable objection: the argument here is I can imagine a universe where there are two axes of time yet that would bring up many paradoxes, break causation, and is also inconceivable by us. But it is possible. Why think so? If you say that something is possible are you not supposing that you logical faculties find no contradiction in its existence? Thus, when you say something is inconceivable are you not saying that it lacks internal mental coherence? I get he is trying to argue a deeper point that it is but beyond our mental function to understand. But that doesn’t seem to be what is true. For the idea of several time axes is developed in the mind, then we ask ‘can this exist in reality?’ The answer to that question will likewise come form the mind. Therefore, in both cases we are presupposing our mind’s rationality has external usage. But if you then say that I suppose an idea which I know via my mind, then propose that the idea is paradoxically to our minds, then suppose that it is a possible idea external to our minds, are you not still supposing that third idea by your mind? Therefore, there is a contradiction in these premises. Therefore, such a universe cannot exist if we are accepting the efficaciousness of human cognitive faculties to not only apprehend rationality but also that said rationality is applicable to the metaphysical landscape. Of course, this assumption cannot be denied for to deny said assumption is to accept it. For you are still saying that the world functions in a way external to you and you know the way in which it does function. Namely not in accordance with your mental function. But that’s a mental function.
In short, time is a concept only.
what lee smolin said was very interesting
13:38 his analogy using the book to explain block universe was fantastic..
I believe similar, except I think there are an almost infinite number of remainders to the story, each potential until the page is read. Think of a book that gives you the opportunity to have free will, and to an extent, choose how the story unfolds.
Try imagining that there's no such thing as time. I mean try seriously hard. Then look at the stuff around you and at the universe and see that nothing has changed. There still be stuff and it still be moving at which point you might realize that 'time' is not more than an extremely useful concept making it much, much easier to think about how some moving things relate to other moving things.
In short, existing things don't need 'time' to prevent them from popping out of existence.
re book analogy - with a book - we can easily move flip back to previous pages - or flip forward to "future" pages - how do we do that with the block universe - outside of scifi
@@REDPUMPERNICKEL - if time stops - and everything freezes in place - how is it still moving?
@@johneyon5257 "if time stops"
Time cannot stop because
time is not actually existent.
Nothing freezes in place because
everything that actually exists
is moving with inertia.
After a lifetime of thinking that
time is a something,
it might take a while
to realize that it's not.
Time is a concept so ubiquitous in our language that
we are no longer conscious that when we speak of time
we are really only speaking about the relative movements of objects and
we speak this way because it's more convenient and efficient.
You know with great certainty that
there is no delicate antenna in a clock
being induced to oscillate by a flowing river of metaphor.
And you know there's a reason why the mechanism at the core of every clock is called a 'movement'.
@@REDPUMPERNICKEL - i see - - time is an illusion - it is confused with changing relationships - which are real - but time is not - - that could be viewed differently - that time emerges from changing relationships
That's such an interesting and damn good question
The last guy has the most reasonable position
We exist....time is a man made idea of measurement and movement ....that exists in man"s mind ...its a system that we came up with to try and understand our existence ...When our brains keep evolving ...we will understand more of what our surroundings and reality are ...We just know the truth of what we have discovered using this system...so it seems real to us If man hadnt invented the clock ...we would be discussing something else ....we are here ...we exist it is what it is ...with all its assumptions using a man made system that exists in man's mind . A being with higher intelligence than us and has more access to brain power will have a completely different set of rules and knowledge and so forth . At this level this is what we know and see and feel and sense Closer to the real truth will be known once it is revealed to us ...next level
When did Time become a global term like Snow? To Eskimos it is useful to have many words for many types of snow one encounters, as one encounters it. Like Time, Snow is personal. If we only speak of A Time, it's easy to see that it is nonessential. At first our mental experiments seem dependent on Time or Spacetime. But our mental experiments are rarely dependent on A Time, so we can ignore Time as a parameter.