Here’s a major loophole in the 360’s security that greatly benefits Xenia: the _console_ determines whether an XBLA game is a demo or the full version, not the game itself. When you download an XBLA demo, it actually downloads the full game, and your system decides it should load the demo when you open it. That means you can download all the demos for all the XBLA games you want, copy them to your PC, and Xenia will see those demos as the full games. I’d hesitate to call this piracy because the system is designed to let you do that.
Huh. I was expecting you to just rip the game discs to ISOs. I didn't know you could do that with a usb drive and the 360 to play in Xenia. That's really cool. Thanks for the guide!
I kept asking for this, and... You made a video both explaining why you didn't do it, and then... Did it anyway in the same video. What a great channel!
In that same config, for games that CTD or freeze on boot, change the GPU render API from Auto to Vulkan; or try Xenia Canary (forked version with new features for games that don't work in Xenia Master). DX12 has a lot of issues rendering things such as block shader mapping for shadows and texture mips. I have moved on to using Xenia Canary exclusively now, as it also has some major performance upgrades over the Master build.
I recently used Xenia to play Saints Row 1 start to finish. Fun time. I had to use the canary build because it gives better performance. To prevent it from crashing, I had to set the "protect_zero" flag to true. I imagine other games that crash near the beginning can be fixed with that setting as well.
What an awesome revelation. All the hard work I did to backup my games to isos back in the days was useful . I literally thought Id never get around to playing them ever as the 360 is in storage half a planet away and I couldn't be arsed to set it up even if I had it . I've got a tonne of game isos but only about 40 on my current backup drive, just installed Xenia and tried a few and they all worked so I cant wait to give them all a go to see which ones I want to play.
One of the big fixes for Xenia is the config line: gpu_allow_invalid_fetch_constants Change this from false to true. Doesn't always work but it fixes quite a few black screens and glitches in the library, so it's worth a shot.
Great coverage, as always! Hoping that Xenia development continues forward as impressively, especially as far playability on something like the Steam Deck is concerned. I’m not picky-even a Proton-based solution (a la CEMU on the Steam Deck) is a-ok with me. I revisited the XBox 360 with the leak of the older XLBA Golden Eye remake a couple years ago now, and while I enjoy the N64 version it remakes, the XLBA version is a really great way to revisit the game with a more modern facelift.
@@EpicB gotcha. My sense is that Linux builds of CEMU are preliminary, so I was curious if your post indicated a good experience. As of the last time I checked, the best way to use CEMU on Steam Deck was still via the Windows build with Proton, hence my allusion. The performance is pretty remarkable, so remarkable that it’s easy to forget it’s not a native Linux program. In some respects, this begs the question of whether or not a native build is even necessary, though I’m personally always happy to have one.
@@Bushidounohana I wouldn't know firsthand because I still need to go pick up my Deck. I was just pointing out what appeared to be outdated information.
Since XB360 emulation is still hit and miss, I've never tried it - until I saw you running Forza Horizon no problem. I know your desktop is ok, but not a ridiculously overpriced powerhouse, so I've taken the plunge. Thanks for a great video.
@@Bee_Mavrick not a multiplatform game? Plenty of them do have a pc port. I really wanted to play Journey to the west, but thought it was a Ps3 exclusive. Until I found out it wasn't, bought it for peanuts and played it on a weak media center pc start to finish, no issues at all.
I've been keeping an eye on this for a couple of years. Dying to replay Lost Odyssey but there're a bunch of problems at the moment - audio cutting/corruption, the texture bug that looks to be in most games, and crashing randomly. But it's still amazing, most of the work looks done already. It's enough for me to drink in the nostalgia but definitely not a playthoughable state.
Forza Horizon runs and renders the ground floor outside the track finall? It used to be transparent, so trees would be flying in the air. Need to check it out! :)
Canary build is a gamechanger. Did you mention patches? you can get 720p and 60fps in games for example. Hit F5(or was it F4) to reload textures, fixes most graphics issues especially texture related. Also I've had success disabling "protect zero" and "break on unimplemented instruction" in settings.
I already showcased many 360 games with Xenia, including Shadow Complex, which can be fixed with a patch file, as long as you run the emulator's Canary version.
Thank you for this video I'm definitely gonna download this for offline use, I wanted to play Battlefield bad company after watching Gmanlives did a video on it and figured well I know the emulation community is golden so. Thank you so much!
This was awesome! I’ve been meaning to explore this emulator. Could you also cover how to set up Yuzu? I have it on windows but I’ve been having trouble getting it to work on Batocera even after following all the steps needed to get it on there. Awesome job!
@@thatzaliasguy Is there a guide out there to set this up? I've had no luck on my searches. Would love to have some friends over & relive Geometry Wars 2!
Wish I knew that you could download the disk to console back in the day. I would play Halo reach so much back in the day that I went through like 10 copy's.
Still far from mature enough to even consider replacing a XB 360 but glad to see it's progressing at least. Same thing for rpcs3 for PS3 but that is closer, especially for the games it run well.
Honestly I’m not really a huge fan of the determination that “you can just use backwards compatibility”. I just find it more convenient to have a gaming pc that can play 360 games than a gaming pc and a newer xbox
I am waiting for Gears Of War local coop to actually function, so that I may play it again with others. I tried a couple of months ago, and not only is the game sound glitchy, but the second controller never gets recognized.
I hope you read this because I can't find any information on it. How can I play games that offer content that is only accessible by playing online? I want to play a game called Too Human and there are drops that happen only when playing online and also more creatures when playing in online mode. I don't need to play with other people, I am fine playing solo. I just want to be able to access online content. Anything at all about custom servers, input in settings, anything that can create a mode or system setup to use online play? Any info on this is very much appreciated. I am using Too Human as an example but I would like to do this for any other games that might also have these same outcomes. EDIT: Wanted to say I was able to get Too Human to work on my machine. It is my most nostalgic game from 360 era. Thank you for all the work you do!
There are some xbox 360 that are not backwards compatible so great way to still play them. How do title updates work and DLC files with games? Or has anyone tried both of these yet?
I’m gonna watch this because soulcaliber V is a game I technically own the lisense of but cannot play on my Xbox one s because it hasent had backwards comparability support yet
Feels really weird to emulate a system when the games are like 50 cents in a lot of secondhand shops. I understand having the option is cool but playing og hardware is almost always so much better than emulation, and the 360 is so insanely cheap to collect for that playing the original system seems much more worth it than messing around with filters snd settings
I thought this video will be emulation ON xbox 360 and not this way around. Like running retroarch on Xbox 360 or something. I got confused there for a sec. 🤣
If you need to make it an ISO anyway, could you use a computer with something like IMGBurn to create the ISO directly, or do you have to use the Xbox to create the GoD files and make the ISO from that?
Hello I have a question if I want to play all yugioh tag force games but I couldn't find psp and the games for a good price is there an anbernic that have these games ? If yes, what is his name? And if not, do you know another way to play these games? I was thinking that if I didn't find it on anbernic I might buy a handheld pc (called ayaneo air) , but I also didn't search if it had these games or not because I was hoping the anbernic have them
Don't know if you will see this or not but I was wondering if you know what causes the usb to just contain "Data files" and not contents or the 0000000 file?
i've got a prolem: i open a game in xenia, but once i'm in the menu, when i press A on the controller, it doesn't select any or start any game, it only select on "return to the arcade". what can i do?
Wrap it in a towel and overheat for like 20-30 mins. Once you plug it back in you should be good to go. Haha. Mine worked the rest of its time after i did that trick.
I mean you can play 360 games but the emulator has a heap of issues. Even on my 2070S and 5600x games are chugging along and the GUI is non existant having to change settings through a massive text file. I would however advise ppl to not use the anary version of xenia. Mostly because it doesn't have profile support so games like Forza doesn't work on it.
I got two games required two disks like call of duty ghosts and halo 4, that has the game disk and install disk. Will those games work or will I run into issues?
I using xenia emulator. Have .iso file but when I open it with xenia nothing happen just black screen. 😢 What can be an issue. Watched lot videos and guys on them have zero problems and games launch everytime.....
Here’s a major loophole in the 360’s security that greatly benefits Xenia: the _console_ determines whether an XBLA game is a demo or the full version, not the game itself. When you download an XBLA demo, it actually downloads the full game, and your system decides it should load the demo when you open it. That means you can download all the demos for all the XBLA games you want, copy them to your PC, and Xenia will see those demos as the full games. I’d hesitate to call this piracy because the system is designed to let you do that.
Thats actually pretty cool!
@@cappnplanetcappnplanet3237 Last I checked, yes
Turtles and Time Reshelled demo would fall into this category then?
@@cebing83 If you got the demo before it was delisted, then it should
Good news. I might have to make it available then. Seems this one was lost to time.
Huh. I was expecting you to just rip the game discs to ISOs. I didn't know you could do that with a usb drive and the 360 to play in Xenia. That's really cool. Thanks for the guide!
Personally, out of the mancaves that I've watch (TH-cam) overtime, yours has to be one of the cleanest and welcoming ones!! Props to you!!
I was wondering as to how well would Xbox 360 games run (emulation) on those mini PCs you've reviewing. This is a good start👌
Cheers, Russ!👍
Loving the new studio! Your videoa are really stepping it up a notch these days. Good stuff.
I kept asking for this, and... You made a video both explaining why you didn't do it, and then... Did it anyway in the same video. What a great channel!
In that same config, for games that CTD or freeze on boot, change the GPU render API from Auto to Vulkan; or try Xenia Canary (forked version with new features for games that don't work in Xenia Master). DX12 has a lot of issues rendering things such as block shader mapping for shadows and texture mips. I have moved on to using Xenia Canary exclusively now, as it also has some major performance upgrades over the Master build.
I recently used Xenia to play Saints Row 1 start to finish. Fun time. I had to use the canary build because it gives better performance. To prevent it from crashing, I had to set the "protect_zero" flag to true. I imagine other games that crash near the beginning can be fixed with that setting as well.
What an awesome revelation. All the hard work I did to backup my games to isos back in the days was useful . I literally thought Id never get around to playing them ever as the 360 is in storage half a planet away and I couldn't be arsed to set it up even if I had it . I've got a tonne of game isos but only about 40 on my current backup drive, just installed Xenia and tried a few and they all worked so I cant wait to give them all a go to see which ones I want to play.
One of the big fixes for Xenia is the config line:
gpu_allow_invalid_fetch_constants
Change this from false to true. Doesn't always work but it fixes quite a few black screens and glitches in the library, so it's worth a shot.
@@SRC267 not as far as I know, but I haven’t tested extensively.
I confirm it works perfectly with UFC 3 !
Great coverage, as always! Hoping that Xenia development continues forward as impressively, especially as far playability on something like the Steam Deck is concerned. I’m not picky-even a Proton-based solution (a la CEMU on the Steam Deck) is a-ok with me. I revisited the XBox 360 with the leak of the older XLBA Golden Eye remake a couple years ago now, and while I enjoy the N64 version it remakes, the XLBA version is a really great way to revisit the game with a more modern facelift.
Except Cemu actually has a native Linux version now.
@@EpicB have you been able to give it a whirl yet? Curious how it performs.
@@Bushidounohana I've never tried Cemu to begin with.
@@EpicB gotcha. My sense is that Linux builds of CEMU are preliminary, so I was curious if your post indicated a good experience. As of the last time I checked, the best way to use CEMU on Steam Deck was still via the Windows build with Proton, hence my allusion. The performance is pretty remarkable, so remarkable that it’s easy to forget it’s not a native Linux program. In some respects, this begs the question of whether or not a native build is even necessary, though I’m personally always happy to have one.
@@Bushidounohana I wouldn't know firsthand because I still need to go pick up my Deck. I was just pointing out what appeared to be outdated information.
Since XB360 emulation is still hit and miss, I've never tried it - until I saw you running Forza Horizon no problem. I know your desktop is ok, but not a ridiculously overpriced powerhouse, so I've taken the plunge. Thanks for a great video.
Lucky the game I want to try still has probl3ms I got alot of waiting to do
@@Bee_Mavrick not a multiplatform game? Plenty of them do have a pc port. I really wanted to play Journey to the west, but thought it was a Ps3 exclusive. Until I found out it wasn't, bought it for peanuts and played it on a weak media center pc start to finish, no issues at all.
Life saver! Thank you! Liked the video.
When is the updated emulation guide coming out? Can't waitt
This is GREAT, because my Xbox 360 needs a new cooling system, and so in order to play it, it must sit atop of my Vornado fan.
I was hoping you'd come out with one of these! Chromehounds on deck! Gonna watch this later haha
I see your devolution to full caveman is coming along nicely.
This is amazing, thank you! I would love a series on how to back up games from old systems and play them on emulators!
Time to track down a 360! Games running on your CRT is a nice touch 😁
I've been keeping an eye on this for a couple of years. Dying to replay Lost Odyssey but there're a bunch of problems at the moment - audio cutting/corruption, the texture bug that looks to be in most games, and crashing randomly. But it's still amazing, most of the work looks done already. It's enough for me to drink in the nostalgia but definitely not a playthoughable state.
Forza Horizon runs and renders the ground floor outside the track finall? It used to be transparent, so trees would be flying in the air. Need to check it out! :)
super excited for the steam deck to get Xenia at some point. i'm dying to play dynasty warriors 5 on the go
Canary build is a gamechanger. Did you mention patches? you can get 720p and 60fps in games for example.
Hit F5(or was it F4) to reload textures, fixes most graphics issues especially texture related.
Also I've had success disabling "protect zero" and "break on unimplemented instruction" in settings.
شكرا على الشرح المحترف👍
بص هوا انا او سويت كدا اقدر احمل العاب من غير rgh/jtag
I didn't actually know you could install discs to the hard drive! I only got my 360 S last year.
The only one i was trying to play was Ninja Gaiden 2 lol .. .dang.. thanks for the video !
Thats great can't wait to try that later thanks for the video
Good stuff! Thanks for sharing this
Great guide.
Also note that a good handful of 360 games also have windows versions you can buy.
Thx Man really helped
I already showcased many 360 games with Xenia, including Shadow Complex, which can be fixed with a patch file, as long as you run the emulator's Canary version.
Thank you for this video I'm definitely gonna download this for offline use, I wanted to play Battlefield bad company after watching Gmanlives did a video on it and figured well I know the emulation community is golden so.
Thank you so much!
Your intro is my alarm in the morning and I'm living my best days because of it.
Hey Russ. Thanks for the email, I did respond on telegram.
Fable 2 would be a big one. As it's not available on PC for some reason. And it, along with the first game we're the best of the trilogy.
Lost odyssey is actually backwards compat on xbox one and series.
"This file may be dangerous, do you want to download it anyway? "
Ya man. I wanna do it
So important to emulate 360 as the original hardware is so flaky, I went through 3 of them
I went through 5. All RRoD. All luckily covered by warranty. But after that I went to PS3 and never looked back.
No ESPN NFL 2k5. No all pro football 2k8 on backward compatibility. So this is appreciated.
This was awesome! I’ve been meaning to explore this emulator. Could you also cover how to set up Yuzu? I have it on windows but I’ve been having trouble getting it to work on Batocera even after following all the steps needed to get it on there. Awesome job!
Hey Russ, awesome walkthrough per usual! Do you know if Xenia supports local multiplayer? Thanks!
Yes it does. Just finished Gears 2 with my wife via my laptop output to the living room TV.
@@thatzaliasguy Is there a guide out there to set this up? I've had no luck on my searches. Would love to have some friends over & relive Geometry Wars 2!
Does never work for me. The 2nd controller never gets recognized.
@@OlGregDraws works out of the box using Xenia Canary version.
@@OlGregDraws You can use this for reference: th-cam.com/video/KFg0DERCvhE/w-d-xo.html
The problem is that my Xbox 360 is dead
I am shocked all this was possible without jailbreak. It's crazy how many things MS allows users to do on a vanilla 360.
Wish I knew that you could download the disk to console back in the day. I would play Halo reach so much back in the day that I went through like 10 copy's.
You need both Canary and standard Xenia. Dead Rising plays fine on standard Xenia for example.
Offers a "Full written guide with links" that links to a page with this video imbedded above link to Xenia, I love what you do but that's hilarious 🤣
Burnout Revenge on 360 is such a gem but very sad that the music doesn't work.
Fingers crossed we get a Switch port
I'm so happy ace combat 6 works
Xbox Image Browser and Xbox 360 Content Manager are your friends.
Ninja Gaiden working from the Assassins Creed Unity playbook there.
Still far from mature enough to even consider replacing a XB 360 but glad to see it's progressing at least.
Same thing for rpcs3 for PS3 but that is closer, especially for the games it run well.
hey, my laptop has a disk drive and I was wondering if I could use that to get the game files instead of the xbox ripping
I use Xenia to play canceled games that have leaked builds on the internet lol
Tell me more?
@@Mangomesh maybe
@@waxcutter9813 Exactly, I can't think of any?
THANKS!!!!
Lost Odyssey is backwards compatible
thank you ...GREAT
OK, i'm confused now, Lost Oddysey does run really well on my XSX.
Honestly I’m not really a huge fan of the determination that “you can just use backwards compatibility”. I just find it more convenient to have a gaming pc that can play 360 games than a gaming pc and a newer xbox
Will you make a video with rcps3 ?
Holy crap Ninja Gaiden II lookin like the stuff of nightmares lol
? for you @retrogamecorps. Do you do any mods or setup Emulators for folks?
Also… I do believe Russ just overtook Taki’s subscriber count?
I am waiting for Gears Of War local coop to actually function, so that I may play it again with others.
I tried a couple of months ago, and not only is the game sound glitchy, but the second controller never gets recognized.
Looking this up after buying PC deadly premonition.
The games that I mainly play on the Xenia emulator that run great are forza horizon and sonic 06
I hope you read this because I can't find any information on it. How can I play games that offer content that is only accessible by playing online? I want to play a game called Too Human and there are drops that happen only when playing online and also more creatures when playing in online mode. I don't need to play with other people, I am fine playing solo. I just want to be able to access online content. Anything at all about custom servers, input in settings, anything that can create a mode or system setup to use online play? Any info on this is very much appreciated. I am using Too Human as an example but I would like to do this for any other games that might also have these same outcomes.
EDIT: Wanted to say I was able to get Too Human to work on my machine. It is my most nostalgic game from 360 era. Thank you for all the work you do!
There are some xbox 360 that are not backwards compatible so great way to still play them. How do title updates work and DLC files with games? Or has anyone tried both of these yet?
Thank Russ, question, would the Anbernic Win600 be able to run any of these games?
Hey russ. Can you do any tips on playing shooting arcade games that uses light gun. If maybe we can emulate them on new tv.
I’m gonna watch this because soulcaliber V is a game I technically own the lisense of but cannot play on my Xbox one s because it hasent had backwards comparability support yet
Feels really weird to emulate a system when the games are like 50 cents in a lot of secondhand shops. I understand having the option is cool but playing og hardware is almost always so much better than emulation, and the 360 is so insanely cheap to collect for that playing the original system seems much more worth it than messing around with filters snd settings
True, there are many reasons why playing these games on the Xbox 360 is still great -- cheap games, guaranteed compatibility, and cloud saves!
two of the titles i really want to play are fable 2 and lost odyssey
Lost odyssey works great so far from what I’ve played on it
I was getting games with gold on 360 for about the amount of times they realeased 2 per month
I keep getting title launch failed. Check Xenia log
Can you shows us how to run xbox 360 games on the steam deck with and without the kinect games
Tim
I thought this video will be emulation ON xbox 360 and not this way around. Like running retroarch on Xbox 360 or something. I got confused there for a sec. 🤣
Same
I'm guessing this would run the OG Xbox games as well?
If you need to make it an ISO anyway, could you use a computer with something like IMGBurn to create the ISO directly, or do you have to use the Xbox to create the GoD files and make the ISO from that?
Ima be honest i want to dp this buy ive watched the video a few times. It cant be this easy.
I tried doing the whole emulation thing … it’s just easier to buy these older 360 games for like $10 and run them on current Xbox series or one x
Some of them aren't backwards compatible
@@TaffyKot it sucks, dragon ball z budokai hd collection and raging blast games are stuck on 360, such gems
Hello I have a question if I want to play all yugioh tag force games but I couldn't find psp and the games for a good price is there an anbernic that have these games ? If yes, what is his name? And if not, do you know another way to play these games? I was thinking that if I didn't find it on anbernic I might buy a handheld pc (called ayaneo air) , but I also didn't search if it had these games or not because I was hoping the anbernic have them
Do the Steamdeck able to run Xenia?
Awesome video. Does anyone know if WWE games will work on this ?
Not something I plan to do, but nonetheless interesting and fun to see it done.
Do you know if i can play dbz raging blast 2 with a 2gb vram nvidia mx 330 on xenia? The processor and ram is great, so vram should be my bottle neck.
Im struggling because I cant find the right file on my usb
Would this potentially mean that Xbox 360 games are now potentially modable? Or would that be some sort of impossible a pipe dream?
Can you use a series s as well to transfer 360 games to a flash drive?
Been trying to get Forza Motorsport 2 to run on this. Can't get past the main menu unfortunately.
Don't know if you will see this or not but I was wondering if you know what causes the usb to just contain "Data files" and not contents or the 0000000 file?
Who else is here just to play the Sonic Free Riders mod with no kinect controls?
Is there a eay to play 360 games on the One X that are not on the backwards compatible list like Forza 4??
i've got a prolem: i open a game in xenia, but once i'm in the menu, when i press A on the controller, it doesn't select any or start any game, it only select on "return to the arcade". what can i do?
there games with 2 disc, how to setup on xenia???
All i just need to know how to get rid of that red ring of murder on that old xbox 360 and im good to go. 😅😨
Wrap it in a towel and overheat for like 20-30 mins. Once you plug it back in you should be good to go. Haha. Mine worked the rest of its time after i did that trick.
@@burrowballin5530 thanks for the tip. I literally have nothing to lose so might as well give it a shot why not 😅
I mean you can play 360 games but the emulator has a heap of issues. Even on my 2070S and 5600x games are chugging along and the GUI is non existant having to change settings through a massive text file. I would however advise ppl to not use the anary version of xenia. Mostly because it doesn't have profile support so games like Forza doesn't work on it.
I got two games required two disks like call of duty ghosts and halo 4, that has the game disk and install disk. Will those games work or will I run into issues?
How do you fix if Xenia doesn’t launch the game
Do you know how to fix graphic devices lost ?
I using xenia emulator. Have .iso file but when I open it with xenia nothing happen just black screen. 😢 What can be an issue. Watched lot videos and guys on them have zero problems and games launch everytime.....
any fix? Graphics device lost (probably due to an internal error )