Just bought a Superior Master 30 and it’s by far their best option IMO. The extra 6.5” in height over the Master 25 is worth every penny for having the same footprint.
I want to see manufactures bring back the at minimum 1/2 inch plate steel box , and done more so then these composites cements with embedded this and that. I know the manufactures are making todays safes thick for fire protection, but there's fiberglass fire protection bags for that. I understand an 1/2" all 6 sides safe standing over 60 inches tall with various depths and widths, and a safe with the specs I mentioned here will cause the safe to weigh around 900-1100 pounds, but at least consumers will be able to have that ability to put more valuables into the safe because that extra 4-5 inches of composites are no longer there..
It never really went away. The American Security BFII, Fort Knox Legend Series and Graffunder are 3 manufacturers that still make a safe with a 1/2" of steel in the body. With that said some of the commercial style builds with the concrete composite matrix bodies can accomplish more cutting protection with only a 1/4" of steel in the body.
I recently bought a Superior Master 60 and I’m still curious what the little plastic clips above the pistol pouches on the inside door panel are for. Would you happen to know?
Different insulating materials would have different effects. We’ve had customers build surroundings around their safe made of concrete blocks, fire brick or even Sheetrock which should help reflect heat.
Do you have any examples of how? From our perspective we've seen in just the past few years Superior updated the Master Series with a new door design, gear driven mechanism and heavier body. They still use S&G locks like they always have and even offer an extended lock warrant. They are literally better than they've ever been.
@@KnivesSurvival The Superior Master has a full 10 gauge body. In years past it used to use a lighter ceiling and floor panel. Like I said earlier, the body, door and mechanism are all heavier than previous years and we’ve been a dealer for Superior/ Champion since they began in 1999. Are you possibly thinking of a different model?
@@KnivesSurvival Looking at the 2021 pricelist the weight was 775 lbs. and now the weight is 800 lbs. When the Master Series first was released in the mid 2000's it had a listed weight of 750 lbs. from what I remember. Also, if you want heavier Superior still makes 3/16" body safe and 1/4" body safes that weigh over a ton.
Exterior hinges are better than interior hinges for a few reasons: 1. Better fire protection. Interior hinges require the removal of fire insulation in critical areas to accommodate a place for the hinge to set. 2. Exterior hinges allow for 180 degree door swing and the ability to store larger/ wider items in the safe. 3. Exterior hinges allow for a tighter door tolerance improving smoke and fire protection. Also, the most secure and highest rated vaults in the world all have exterior hinges. For more info search ISM TRTL60 Safe
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Just bought a Superior Master 30 and it’s by far their best option IMO. The extra 6.5” in height over the Master 25 is worth every penny for having the same footprint.
Glad you pointed the door out about the plate and fire
I want to see manufactures bring back the at minimum 1/2 inch plate steel box , and done more so then these composites cements with embedded this and that. I know the manufactures are making todays safes thick for fire protection, but there's fiberglass fire protection bags for that. I understand an 1/2" all 6 sides safe standing over 60 inches tall with various depths and widths, and a safe with the specs I mentioned here will cause the safe to weigh around 900-1100 pounds, but at least consumers will be able to have that ability to put more valuables into the safe because that extra 4-5 inches of composites are no longer there..
It never really went away. The American Security BFII, Fort Knox Legend Series and Graffunder are 3 manufacturers that still make a safe with a 1/2" of steel in the body. With that said some of the commercial style builds with the concrete composite matrix bodies can accomplish more cutting protection with only a 1/4" of steel in the body.
should check American Security out and do a review on them!
The American Security BFX series is one of our favorite safes. We definitely will be doing an overview of them.
This safe manufacturer is truly Superior.
I own a premium 42x72 Fort Knox and these ones are better
Fort Knox still builds a great safe.
I recently bought a Superior Master 60 and I’m still curious what the little plastic clips above the pistol pouches on the inside door panel are for. Would you happen to know?
The plastic hooks were originally designed for storing/ hanging keys.
Looking to research more on these safe thank for the info for sure not buying one liberty safe they give out your info
Would lining the outside of gun safe with insulation keep the contents warmer ?
Different insulating materials would have different effects. We’ve had customers build surroundings around their safe made of concrete blocks, fire brick or even Sheetrock which should help reflect heat.
I have the Untouchable 55 and was wondering if that one is still available? It’s a great safe for the money.
The Untouchable series is still available!
Superior has cheapened the build of these safes with in the last few years
Do you have any examples of how? From our perspective we've seen in just the past few years Superior updated the Master Series with a new door design, gear driven mechanism and heavier body. They still use S&G locks like they always have and even offer an extended lock warrant. They are literally better than they've ever been.
@@NWSafe the amount of steel is less. Safe weight is lighter now
@@KnivesSurvival The Superior Master has a full 10 gauge body. In years past it used to use a lighter ceiling and floor panel. Like I said earlier, the body, door and mechanism are all heavier than previous years and we’ve been a dealer for Superior/ Champion since they began in 1999. Are you possibly thinking of a different model?
@@KnivesSurvival Looking at the 2021 pricelist the weight was 775 lbs. and now the weight is 800 lbs. When the Master Series first was released in the mid 2000's it had a listed weight of 750 lbs. from what I remember. Also, if you want heavier Superior still makes 3/16" body safe and 1/4" body safes that weigh over a ton.
@@NWSafe hmm maybe it was just the one i bought in 2018!
Don't like the hinges exposed
Exterior hinges are better than interior hinges for a few reasons:
1. Better fire protection. Interior hinges require the removal of fire insulation in critical areas to accommodate a place for the hinge to set.
2. Exterior hinges allow for 180 degree door swing and the ability to store larger/ wider items in the safe.
3. Exterior hinges allow for a tighter door tolerance improving smoke and fire protection.
Also, the most secure and highest rated vaults in the world all have exterior hinges. For more info search ISM TRTL60 Safe
Are they emp protected?
@@chago102 Great question, Please answer @nwsafe
@@chago102 The Optional S&G Spartan Electronic Lock is EMP Resistant.