Yaw3 - Our best motion simulator ever coming in May
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Yaw3 is lighter - quieter - easier to assemble - more precise and refined movement - greater movement dynamics - more reliable - more compact
Very nice. It took a lot of time to get them out to backers, and we are still waiting, but the evolution over the last two years will benefit those who have waited. Yaw3 is the result of many adaptations to the yaw2 because you listened to the backers and testers. Sure there are some features like heave that aren't possible yet, but that's for the future. I just hope this model doesn't have any problems and the very long testperiod is finally over. It looks good. New and improved. The racing frame is probably still an option for those that dislike the footrest or centermount.
I am waiting for two years for this. Now its perfect. Let me have it!
Was going to buy this but since everyone says they have been waiting 5+ years I will wait until it hits stores lbs
Excellent, very exciting! But I’ve been waiting 3 yrs come June. I really hope I’ll receive my Yaw3, sometime real soon 🙏
(Backer 778 🇨🇦)
I'll believe it when I see it. You guys have been holding our money for years now. Would be nice to finally get something out of it.
This is the main purpose of Yaw3
@@YawVR - And that had been the main purpose of doubling the price of Yaw 2, that had been the main purpose of launching that cockpit hardware, that had been the main purpose of changing the production. And the result of all that main purposes? Nothing. So what makes this main purpose different? Don't tell me, I know! The number! It's number 4, not 3.
Exactly
@@JoernR Also stop shipping to "influencers". It does more damage to the brand when Kickstarter backers have been waiting 2+ years and will continue to voice concern for probably another two years.
This is fucking wrong. This is the main reason why I won’t buy one, until they make it right with all the backers
It's been really cool to watch Yaw evolve. Congratulations, guys!
Looks great and very exciting that you combined the motion modules into a single optimized unit.
Did they?
Am looking forward to finally getting mine :)
Kick starters first we've been waiting long enough
We agree and are working on it hard
@@YawVR - Don't work on it, do it.
There is no try either do or do not.
I wish I could afford it.
And the bigger place that I would need to fit it in.
But to be fair: I guess it would be twice as good if Microsoft Flight Sim would finally add Force Feedback support... it's unfathomable they still didn't! Hereby I decree you to "pester" them and Jörg Neumann personally with the request until they do!
Its my birthday on the 4th of may i would love to have one of these to test for a couple months would be so cool
Outstanding job! Btw as a simulator operator I could not disregard some of the incorect reaction of the platform to the inputs of the operator. I hope you guys will fix it in the production unit.
I think we should see what the sim/plane does to judge the movement. the movement of the joke isn't always giving a quick response from the plane perhaps? too hard to judge without the inside view.
Excellent ! But, I dare to hope that the rotation on itself can be deactivated because it is of no interest. I also hope the seat is optional.
Love the Iron Maiden'ish music.
The Yaw 3 differs from the Yaw 2 as it might not be vapourwear. We kickstarter backers have now funded two hardware products and a piece of VR software and only a very small percentage of us received our units which have turned out to be beta testers to enable Yaw to develop this 3rd version.
thats on you for trusting vapware
I am a Backer too, so I get the frustration. That said, we all know that these campaigns are calculated as optimistic as possible to get the thing of the ground. Not only when it comes to money but to time as well. So if unexpected problems occur like a pandemic with supply-chain problems, or the product turns out to be more complicated in mass production, I don't know what you expect to happen. Also keep in mind if the company goes bankrupt because, the Kickstarter-money was only that, (a kickstart not actual profits) then we all get nothing. BTW. I was a backer for the first one as well and a lot of other Kickstarter-campaigns. (like Pimax for example) And they all turn out to be way way longer as initially stated. These are all small businesses and even big corps fuck this up as well on a regular basis.
For sure they didn't go over budget with that terrible mic in the video :)
It was a super noisy environment, we had a pro mic, but it was not enough
We launched the kickstarter campaign with the best of wills. Unfortunately, we couldn't find an investor like we did for Yaw1 and we delayed development. Yaw3 is a very important step to finally deliver again to our Kickstarter backers, which is our main focus.
Why yaw 2 looks like it have more motion n movement then yaw 3
Double edged sword. This product finally going out to Kickstarter and seeing everyone enjoying it just makes me want to get the heave since I'm assuming it's year's wait like the yaw
no one is enjoying because we are waiting for this scam.
now it is more than 2 month and no update coming.
@@germytron it's not a scam when deliveries are being made
@@whiteandnerdytuba 2 deliveries per month?
New is not always better the timing belt is good BUT how does it do on fast movements eg fast one way then change quickly timing belts stretch and brake and being under that kind of load can't be good but time will tell
Im surprised they didnt try and put this one on kickstarter? Lol oh thats right they burned that bridge. So sad that a company can be so irresponsible years waiting for mine. For me I don't believe a word they say. They have money to promote but not to keep their word.
Tell us more...what happened?
I just want what I was promised back in June 7, 2021. For me it's obsurd that a company can get millions in investment. I believe they didn't think they were going to sell that many and became overwhelmed. Now nearly 3 years late. I believe in better late than sorry but if I'm dead I won't be able to enjoy it. Backer #1453 this was 30 minutes from my house and they didn't even send me out an email so I could at least Joy ride a bit of my investment.
@@snapseven2323 Look up kickstarter for Yaw 2. They are years late delivering that to the backers. They have been doing their best to honor that campaign. They only delivered around 20% of the devices to date. The remaining backers will get a Yaw 3, they anticipate most will get one by the end of this year. I don't know about that, but I do believe that their backers WILL get their unit eventually. Yaw did make some mistakes, but covid hit and along with that war in Ukraine, supply chain issues and utility costs skyrocketed. There are many, many reasons. They are a good company and they will deliver. I'm one of the backers still waiting for their unit. I would still back Yaw if they did another kickstarter in the future. Stuff happens, they pull through it.
Then look up the Feel Three VR kickstarter. That disappeared into oblivion and the backers lost thousands of dollars. Yaw isn't going to let that happen.
General question. How do you prevent cables from being tangled when it rotates 360? cables that are connected from driving wheel and pedals?
Does the software cancel out unneeded motion to the VR headset?
E.g. if the motion platform is rolled to the right , in the simulation you dont have to see the cockpit at that angle
I've been thinking of a motion sim with a VR system and the first thing that came to my mind was this thing
i think you mean motion compensation and yes, we used it to subtract the simulator motion from the headset motion
Would have been great to know the yaw3 was even coming out since I just bought the yaw2.5 4 weeks ago
I could be mistaken, but I think your's won't be very different. I saw a video from them a couple weeks back, (I think it was in one of the Kickstarter updates) where they explained the naming convention. If I remember correctly, the 2.5 should have all the major improvements already.
Sorry, we couldn't highlight it sooner. Yaw2.5 is also a good choice, in terms of movement (which is the most important part) there is no big difference, but please contact us at info@yawvr.com (referring to Zsolt)
@@YawVR Are you guys going to make the heave platform compatible with the Yaw 2 as well as the Yaw 3?
Do you guys have a module that does up/down vertical movement yet? Thanks!
not yet, but working on it
@@YawVR We are waitting for this module, it is the one we are the most looking forward. If you have any news on it don't hesitate to share it.
Good to make ordering this way… mainly because of what happened to Honey Comb… few people trust up front cash pre order anymore.
The movements delivered here don't seem so very different to the purely mechanical Dream Flyer, which one can build for a tiny fraction of the cost. Sure, this has rotation about the vertical axis, which could be used to induce the feeling of side slip if one's head is suitably distant from the vertical rotation axis.
When will you ship to backers. I also paid more for upgrade and shipping. I feel I was scammed to pay more.
January 2021 the kickstarter ended, pre-order now and get it faster than the first 1000 buyers.
Our main intention to deliver for our remaining 800 backers asap, this is what for Yaw3 and also the preorders
@@YawVR I still haven't received my rotational platform for my Yaw 2. Is that something you guys still plan on delivering or am out the few extra hundred I spent on it?
No heave?
not yet, we were working on it a lot, we will focus on it again after Yaw3 release
@@YawVR - Too late. See, I don't wish to be a pain-in-the-neck with every comment, but as already said - you repeat the errors of the previous releases. In short: a) You lose buyers of heavy-duty sim hardware if you don't offer Yaw 3 with a real rigid frame - at launch time. b) You lose simracers by not offering Yaw 3 with the heave platform - at launch time. Only a fraction will be willing to buy a product if they can't use it for their main purposes right after purchase - with a great deal of uncertainty regarding future availability of badly needed hardware. It's like: "Buy this car! It can't move, but maybe in the future it can." Think about it.
@@JoernR thanks for your opinion and we are listening to you
@@JoernR Plenty of simracers purchase plenty of motion sims that do not have heave at all.
@@stevetb7777 - Erm ... That's not really correct. Moving you up and down is the primary use of motion rigs for sim racing; but as opposed to Yaw, they can even add a direction to the lifting or lowering movements, for example, they can push you up, forward and to the right at the same time.
I assume there is a solution for this, but doesn't the VR headset tracking get confused by the per tilting and spinning around? If the chair turns 180 degrees I'm guessing the person with the VR glasses isn't then looking into the backseat of the aircraft.
Hopefully this gets a tear down that ends up as an open source project that works with Ms flight sim and condor 2 for us gliders....
Yay for Yaw! 101st like!
Excited to experience this soon!
I really wished you showed this working with rudder pedals. It seems like the missing piece why isn’t it showcased with it?
Of course you can use rudder pedal with the simulator. It was our fault that we didn't take it with us, we didn't think it was very important, but we were wrong
@@YawVR This blows my mind !
To be fair, I was at the first USA demo at Flight Sim Expo 2021 for the Yaw2, and they had rudder pedals setup there. =D
Display port? no longer the possibility of vertical swing?
unfortunately Display port is not viable in case of 360 motion (or at least desperately expensive technology) usually we recommend to use standalone headsets with wifi transmission or cable management. Heave platform is coming after Yaw3 release
Would be great for a gun turret game. Maybe Avatar or some Star wars.
I'd love to review this on my channel :)
please drop an email to info@yawvr.com and refer to Zsolt! Thanks
HAH!! Indeed, YAW you MUST send this to Steve @VRFlightSimGuy. He has a very loyal and loving following of flight sim enthusiasts, I've been a subscriber for years. Steve, you are going to be BLOWN AWAY by this thing, especially the range of motion compared to the DOF. I got to try a Yaw2 at the first demo in the USA. I can't wait to watch your review. Even more, I can't wait to get mine. =D
@@stevetb7777 Hey Steve, thanks buddy. I really appreciate your support! :)
@@YawVR I'll get on this now, cheers guys :)
@@stevetb7777 have you tried both the DOF Reality H3 (or H6) and the Yaw3? I'm trying to decide which path to take but haven't heard from anyone who has experienced both.
I enjoy to have mine soon ❤🎉
My top priority when considering this would be how smooth is it at slow movement?
How much?
So... does this mean the backers who paid for the pro version and paid also higher vat and shipping costs will get the same like the non pro backers? I mean, in theory, if ever.
Yes
it's true that we don't have a Standard version now, because the new Yaw3 is the PRO version, and even better in some parameters (e.g. all three axles have 350W motors), so our PRO users are not disadvantaged, but it's true that Standard customers get more. We are thinking about what benefits we can offer for PRO backers
Yeah this isn’t making sense. I originally got Early Bird pricing on Kickstarter for $1190 shipped. Found out an hour after that it wasn’t “Pro” so had redo it all and email Yaw. Emailed them and ended up getting in a pledge for $2100 to make it an Early Bird Pro. But now there’s only one version? So if I did nothing I would receive the same Yaw 3 for like $900 less? This needs to be addressed
@@YawVRsending the pro orders sooner than the standard could be a start.
Has anyone backing this actually gotten one of them yet?
This guy flying without any rudder pedals
Every one can fly ❤
The seat looks terrible for HOSAS flight sim use. (Hand on Stick and Stick) HOSAS is very common in space simulators. A chair option that doesn't interfere with elbows when dual side sticks are pulled back is a must.
hy yaw, congratulation for this version 3 of your YAW!!! here in France we are exciting by this simulator (except the the shipping tax!) Could you tell us if exist a software solution to modifiy the angle of the rotation? firstable , i would use this simu in my appartment and i haven't place for an total 360 degres of rotation? for my automobile game (le mans ultilmate "LMU", RFACTOR2 i prefer a most lighter movement X and Y, can it possible to modify them just a little bit ?? obiouvously, it's a super work, thank for the immersion and accessibilty price!
Darn, for a minute I though this was a real thing I could actually buy. I'm not doing another kickstarter. I've still weighting on my SlimeVRs a year later. Ping me when I can order this and actually have it 2 weeks later.
Hi Methos, Yaw3 is ready. You can actually buy it, and we ship it 10 days after the purchase. You can pay by credit card, so you are on the safe side. (shop.yawvr.com)
wasnt very happy with the yaw 1. where is the software? we havent had a major release for vr in years
I'm guessing you're not going to see an update for Yaw1. Their new release looks like they're learned a lot, however. Be interested to see how this works out.
im a backer and i can sell mine at kickstarter price. I already bought different simulator so i have to sell this. Let me know and i will get the official email form Yaw team to ship it to you.
@@jklappenbach they should update the Yaw1 though ... Yaw1 customers (like me) would be their biggest evangelists! I hope they will soon.
I have a Yaw 1 and a Yaw 2, the software is compatible with both and has been updated a lot. In some games I way prefer it over SRS which I used to recommend everyone who owns a Yaw device get.
All of our software development is compatible with Yaw1, only the Yaw1 firmware development has been stopped
Any updates? I'd like to see more test videos...
There is no surge, heave or slip sideways. If this can be cracked, I'd buy a few for my commercial setups for the flight school. Also tethered cabling for VR headsets is not accommodated. All that spinning without suspending the VR headset cable above the seat will be a problem for cable fouling. If I could teher my VR to the seat and the seat to the PC, this would not be a problem. Otherwise, its use case is rather limited.
Wireless VR is the only remedy - but this calls for an even beefier PC.
@@JoernR You don't need a beefier pc for wireless vr. A pc that can run wired vr can run wireless vr at the same performance level. Good wifi is the determining factor for wireless vr.
They said its for wireless vr users or wired vr users that don't have an issue with wire management. It's also advertised as a 3 DOF motion sim. Not 6 DOF so you're complaining about features that they acknowledge and purposefully haven't put on the rig yet. And heave is coming after they release yaw 3. Also already mentioned by them. Did you read or pay attention to anything? lol
@MTEditz try reading my post again, I patently acknowledge this but obviously that went over your head... never mind though we can't all be sharp minded.
@@dalemckenzie2828 indeed we all can’t be sharp. Glad you’re self aware. Reread your post. You’re complaining about it not being 6dof when this is a 3dof product that announced the release of heave already that will be coming after yaw 3. Indeed we can’t all be sharp. You complain about the lack of accommodation for tethered headsets when the devs said this is primarily for wireless users or users that have their own solution for wired play. You talk about a solution that would be better for you which is dumb because it’s not even in the scope of work for the devs. If you are playing wired and don’t suspend the wire above your head then you’re doing it wrong anyways. Indeed we all can’t be sharp. You claim it’s use is limited because a 3dof product isn’t 6dof? Indeed we all can’t be sharp. You claim it’s use is limited because it doesn’t cater to wired users when wired users should be suspending the cable overhead anyway? Indeed we can’t all be sharp. Good job throwing an insult and end up insulting yourself lmfao
I still want to buy the yaw 1, because it's payable for gamer like quest 2 and not Vision pro.
The most gamer will not and couldn't pay that much.
Maybe one day China factory will make it for 500 usd 😊
You really wish to play sitting in a salad bowl? ;)
But I also hope for the Chinese jumping in.
Very cool 🫡
If that kind of motion Rig Platform doesn't get you sick, nothing will.
That is pretty cool, but I bet it is not cheap -- 4000 dollars.
Rich boys with their Rich Toys.
Thanks for the video.
The rich boys buy the 100K+ sims. =D
Every airplane I have flown has rudder pedals. That part of realism seems to be missing from what I observed.
will u guys ever make one for motorcycle racing?
Cut your question after "one".
Can we add butkicker to feel vibration for simracing? It look too much smooth...
And can we add a real bucket seat?
there are mounting points for buttkickers and for seats, check the site. many can be used depending on the bottom of the seat
@@dennisvandermeersch2561 thanks for answer ! 👍
Check 2,51 minutes in video
Where is the showcase????
Wait, this still isn’t out? 🤦♂️
They just said "May", never mentioned the year. :)
Any update?
I would love to finally get it!
Aerosmith answered your question in 1973: "Dream on"
Useless if you can't mount your rudder peddles . I don't get it .
Hey, has this system been tested with ACE COMBAT 7
I would love to know how it handles that game
I don't think anyone has gotten the motion telemetry data for that game yet, but you can use their joystick plugin to make it work with the simulator. It may be possible to extract the telemetry data without the Ace Combat 7 devs giving it out, but that could cause you to get banned possibly or you would at least have to play in offline mode if that's possible, and it would need to be done after each update. You could also hound the devs into giving us the telemetry data, but could luck on that.
we have to check it out if telemetry is available, if not we will try to contact the game developer team, meanwhile you can try joystick direct input as @fizo44 mentioned
is that Alex???
this chair only missin heave after add this is best of best motion platform
Not exactly as that heave platform only allows up and down movements; not possible to lift e. g. just the lower left of the chair if a race car's front left tyre hits a bump. Not sure if it's possible to simulate that kind of motion by combining up/down and swinging motions.
It is revealing to see how even skilled people are fooled into believing the Yaws movement is realistic. See the video "How Flight Simulators Fool Your Brain" to see how actual yaw simulators should work.
How you gonna hit the pedal
Very, very, very softly for not breaking anything.
I want it
I’ve used this. And I’m not a fan.
Many things you’re doing make no sense.
First off, when a plane accelerates, why are you not tilting the chair back?
When a plane banks, why are you leaning the chair constantly? This is not how forces feel in a plane.
I think you guys need to put more time into what sensations you actually experience.
Users are free (and it is easy) to modify motion profiles to their own taste. In many cases, the reality of the simulator shouldn't perfectly reflect the real flight. This is for to improve the experience and avoid motion sickness. But we will try out acceleration as you suggest, to see how much it adds to the experience, and we will continue to explore turns also. Soon, motion profiles will also be shareable, which will help the community to develop the best profiles
@@YawVR thanks for your response. The profiles sound good.
@@YawVR - Erm ... You just said the simulator does NOT reflect the real motions for avoiding motion sickness.
THIS is what CAUSES motion sickness - if movements and non-movements aren't 100 % in sync with your eyes' perception.
@@JoernR you're basically right, but given that all currently available motion simulators can only approach reality, often it's not the perfect simulation that gives better results, but the experience-based simulation. This is our own observation, but of course everyone can customize the experience, because everyone reacts individually to motion sickness in many different ways.
Experience-based simulation means that you don't stick to all the forces, motions, effects that physics says you should simulate, but you focus on the experience and refine the parameters until you get to the most enjoyable profile
@@zsoltszigetlaki339 - Yes, that's the choice of an experienced VR user - maximum fun instead of maximum realism. But that's an approach which would kill the fun of the majority of novice VR users instantly and turn them green-faced. The more "noobish" a player, the more he needs perfect synchronization of visual and bodily perception for keeping his breakfast inside. :)
Actually, I guess that devices like Yaw can indeed help VR novices getting used to this new kind of experience.
I now have a dilemma between this and the DOF…. I was not familiar with you all until now
Hi, please visit us at AWE2024 - Long Beach CA or at Flight Sim Expo - Las Vegas NV. You can try the Yaw3 there and on FSE DOF will be also exhibiting, so you can compare the two devices easily
Paid 2.5k eur and still waiting.
If you are a KS backer, we are working on to deliver you soon. That is the main purpose of Yaw3 development
Was wondering about price as well. Thanks! Yikes though. Gonna have to stick with my xplane 12 and the barely usable reverb 2 I have. lol. That would cost me nearly 25% of the cost of my flight training😬.
🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 I only need to lose 3lbs! 🤣🤣😂😂🤣🤣
Pitch and yaw but doesn't have roll or heave motion. Pass. Sorry, kids, keep trying.
It doesn't have roll? Heave was always a later addition.
It has roll, and it is absolutely fantastic. Maybe they had the settings turned down for this demo. I've tried the Yaw 2, the roll/pitch/yaw were amazing. Heave is coming with a separate platform addition, kiddo.
Plz,install hand rests. And it will be perfect.
Hand rests, or Arm rests? It should come with arm rests, but they can get in the way for a lot of games so they can be removed. I use an aftermarket chair on my Yaw 2 with 4d adjustable arm rests and can leave them on for any flying, space, driving, or roller coaster sim..... but I have modded the hell out of mine. Actually, the seat they sell is optional and isn't great so I recommend getting an after market seat in general. I'm in the US so paying shipping for their seat was $100 extra which is probably more now, so going with an after market seat was a no brainer for me.
@@fizo444 Arm rest yes,thank you for correcting me.
Can you fit an aftermarket chair easily?
You recommend Yaw 3 my friend?
@@Deathunder I mean it's possible they won't be shipping the chairs with Arm Rests anymore, but I doubt that's the case. You could always reach out to them about that though.... and if they don't you can find after market arm rests... At least I can here in the US. My Yaw 2 had to be modded to fit my seat.... but a lot fit right out of the box. I would think the Yaw 3 should be the same unless they changed the spacing between the seat mounting holes.... actually, in the video the seat has the Yaw 2 logo so it is the same seat.... but I'm guessing the ones that ship will have the Yaw 3 logo. Anyway, for the Yaw 2 they intentionally made it to be compatible with a lot of aftermarket seats. As far as would I recommend the Yaw 3.... haha.... no clue cause I haven't gotten to try it. My Yaw 2 is insanely fun though and blows all of my friends and family away when they try it ;)
The chair comes with arm rest, so you can mount it if you wish. You also can use any other gaming or office chair which has flat bottom part
킥스타터에서 주문한 Yaw2도 아직 못받았는데 Yaw3? 뭔 헛소리인지 모르겠네. 난 925번 Backer라고.
Yaw3 개발의 주요 목적은 가능한 한 빨리 기기를 배송하는 것이었습니다.
@@YawVR 좋아요. 내가 받을 물건이 2인지 3인지 모르겠지만.
어차피 제가 지금 할 수 있는 일은 기다리는 것 뿐이잖아요?
@@1.AmaTi.5 가능한 한 빨리 Yaw3를 받게 될 것입니다.
i cetainly hope the seat is better quality than the shitty microphone used in the interviews
I’m sorry but why the heck would you show up with thousands of dollars worth of simulator equipment and not have rudder pedals? 😂
Of course you can use rudder pedal with the simulator. It was our fault that we didn't take it with us, we didn't think it was very important, but we were wrong
@@YawVR As the famous quote out of Pretty Woman goes....."Mistake, Big Mistake, HUGE!!!!"
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Why is there RGB on the seat for a product that targets VR users that can’t see it. No thank you.
Why does the outside of a car look pleasing to the eye, when you only sit inside it?
@@JM-el7vk 🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌
@@JM-el7vk - For showing off your car in public.
Now tell me how to show off Yaw 3 in public without making a 101 % fool out of you.
@JoernR the yaw3 isn't a car, so why would a private buyer want to show it off in public, and by public I'm assuming you meant outdoors haha. If it was a display unit, however, then it would be in public and fit your criteria. Also if you had friends or family, then you could show it off to them in your house, couldn't you? Or maybe it would be pleasing to your eye when you look at it, or would you prefer it to just be a stack of scaffold poles welded together?
@@JM-el7vk - So you agree that Yaw 3 is unsuitable for showing off. Now please tell me why Yaw 3 has that LED strips if a) you can't show them to the public, and b) you don't see them. This is extra money and extra power consumption for no reason.
And if I could impress my friends with childish LED lights, I'd better look for other friends.
Sole purpose is attracting attention, a gimmick nobody needs except kids whose iPhones already did their primary job.
Need 6DOF.
what? .how big would it have to be for 6DOF? i dont think youve really thought this comment through
@@SoulBrotherB DOF Reality does it and it fits in a 5'x5' area. I guess this company just sucks too much to figure it out. i dont think you've really thought your comment through.
@@TruthHurts2u lmao 4 grand vs 6.5, you suck
@@TruthHurts2u DOF Reality offers 6DOF but many reviews don't love it much more than the 3DOF version. Does it do 6DOF WELL? DOF Reality has a limited range of movement. Range of motion is a main area where Yaw3 will dominate in the consumer space. DOF can't come close. Especially if you want to fly helicopters in sim - you get the 360 yaw! I would choose Yaw3 over DOF Reality P6 any day. Yaw3 will have a heave platform in the future, 4DOF. You can simulate the other two degrees (x/y) fairly well anyway within the 4 degrees Yaw3 can have.
DOF has a fine product, I'm just saying that for many people 3 and 4DOF is plenty and range of motion is really important.
Congrats for repeating all the errors you made with Yaw 2 - still no heave platform, thus no use for driving sims. Still that flimsy foot rest and wheel/yoke support which can't handle any serious sim equipment.
After Yaw3 release, the gaming frame will be available soon, that will handle the high load very well
@@YawVR - Ah, a promise. Like the promises you gave to your backers from the Kickstarter campaign, which did not get their devices for years. Like the promise about the heave/gravity platform which magically vanished from your website. Sorry, I can't believe that - and in the present state Yaw 2 and Yaw 3 are useless for simmers with more than toy hardware. This is the mistake you made right from the start and never listened, restricting your target group to a small circle of roller coaster passengers and casual gamers with cheap hardware. Wake up. ;)
@@JoernR with respect to your opinion, I would just like to add that Yaw2 and Yaw3 in their current form are not just a toy. They both have exceptional range of motion and motion resolution, fully capable for aviation and racing purposes. There is no question that the gaming frame is very much missing. We have a ready-made solution for it, we just need to adapt it to Yaw3 and release it immediately. In addition, it will be optional replacing the central holder, with no extra cost. The heave platform is a more difficult question, it's a serious development, we have a prototype, but we probably need to change the technology there. For now we are fully focused on Yaw3, then we will have resources for the heave platform.
@@YawVR - You need to read a bit more carefully. ;) - I did not call Yaw a toy, I called the sim equipment presently usable with Yaw toys. That's because the present frame and supports cannot handle the forces produced by serious sim equipment like loadcell pedals and high-torque wheelbases. That's been a day-1-problem. The issue induced by this is quite simple: There's just a small group of simulation enthusiasts willing to pay high prices; and that's not the casual gamers, that's the players which heavily invest into their hardware - and that's the ones which need sturdy mounts and supports.
So in fact, you're in danger of producing hardware for the needs of casual gamers - but with a price tags outside a casual gamer's reach. With a price tag in the range of serious sim enthusiasts, but outside their hardware requirements. See the paradox? That way you aim for a point in the empty space between both potential customer groups.
Just tell me why I should buy a Yaw 3 if it cannot handle my loadcell pedals and my Simucube 2 wheelbase? Being able to use that kind of hardware is a purchase prerequisite.
Plus, as a sim racer I'd need that heave platform almost more than anything else. Cars jump, they don't swing back and forth or from side to side.
Having those forces simulated, isn't a sole contribution to having fun, it's a solid contribution to better driving - because you get all the sensual extra information you need for understanding your car's movements and reactions. And that does not work if a jump is translated into a swing. That might feel nice and fun, but will hinder better car control because wrong sensations of movements get delivered, not in sync with the real car movements.
That's things you need to consider. I would probably buy a Yaw 3 if there's a solid mounting solution (ideally, using standard aluminum i-type 40x80 profiles for maximum flexibility) and the heave platform at launch. That way, I could use the Yaw for racing and flight simulation - instead of buying a platform which I can't use for either purpose at launch time.
Please consider that, make sure to understand the needs of your potential target group correctly.
@@JoernR They said they have a racing frame that will be available that can handle it. They have demoed a prototype of this in the past for Yaw2. The simple solution is for you to wait until it is available with the heave platform and the racing frame, or buy a different product. =D
Lots of folks who buy this are casual simmers who will not have loadcell pedals and high-torque wheelbases. You will see folks using a cheap logitech wheel and brakes for this. Probably more so than not! Some of those people will become more serious and follow an upgrade path. Not everyone who buys this will be a hardcore simmer. Keep in mind 4K for a motion sim is still basically entry level! There are 25K+ options out there for you as well. ; )
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or just get something that's not an overpriced beta product plenty of those in sim racing space
Of course there are alternatives (and very good alternatives) and it's up to you to decide who you choose. For those who want the greatest range of motion, a beautiful design, a small footprint and universality, we recommend the Yaw3.
3 990 $ ;((
ahhhhh another product that will never get delivered!!!
yall should really look into making the seat less gamer without all the lighting. i expect more from a $4000 product.
Turn the lights off. ??????? 🤣🤣🤣
Anyway, the seat is an addon. You can use any seat you wish.
@@stevetb7777 sure but its still a very childish looking chair
great products with really bad presentation, marketing, image etc. Please hire a designer for your webpage, socials etc. or contact me for that matter lol
Actually their presentation / promo videos and marketing for Yaw2 were quite superb! They just haven't gotten around to it yet for the Yaw3.
Haaa $$$$$$$
Meh.... no really Shure is that cool for flying do . this look more of a expensive toy then anything else
Unless you can simulate g force this is a complete waste of time
still waiting 5 years
no heave?
YES! 👍👍👍 Go, YawVR... I'm over happy!
So cool! Glad to see you guys got such great reviews at sun n fun.
Prijs?
For flight, this really needs up and down motion - especially for Helicopters
They are planning to launch a "gravity platform" as an addon that will add heave in the future. This has been in development, currently the focus is to get Yaw3 fully launched.
@@stevetb7777they were planning to launch heave for 3 years now and still nothing
@@EscapeRealityMedia Well yes, it has been their plan to launch heave after they had Yaw2 finished and production flowing... and stability as a company. They haven't really hit those marks yet. Hopefully they will.
Of course they are on Yaw3 now and years behind on everything. Heave may never happen, but I think it will in time.
@@stevetb7777 hopefully that would be great it would really make the yaw3 awesome
Why spend 3080 USD on a motion sim and then play a 8 years old game on it? Makes no sense. Is the Yaw3 not compatible with MSFS?