I find out that Buddhist text were over exaggerated things based on Buddhists and non Buddhists like Ashok's 99 brother killing ,torture chamber, lust before Buddhism but there are evidence of adopting Buddhism before Kalinga war , same with pushymitra shunga, and now these
I take it as exaggerations but not negations. For example - pushyamitra shunga and mihurakula were most likely intolerant of Buddhists. However the numbers proposed are often impossible. It's the same with the muslim sources depicting their bloody conquests proudly in India. The events were most likely true and bloody as described, but the numbers of armies themselves mentioned in those texts are highly unlikely.
@@nav9005 the chandragupta maurya example was not to demean him cuz chandragupta maurya wasn't Buddhist. However yes there were several hindu religious texts insulting Buddhists Jain's, Buddhists and Jain's did the same lol
But note that Kushan kings were also hindu influence we can see the depiction of Shivji on their coins from vima father of Kanishka to Vasudeva kushana
@Jerry Louis with The Thickness What made you come to that conclusion? How many identifying signs of shiva can you see in the coin? Not every cylinder in the world is a shiv ling nor is every person holding a trident shiva. No temple of shiva older than 635AD has been found in the world.
@Jerry Louis with The Thickness Why dont you just name a temple older than 200 BC and get it over with? or tell me a ganesh or a kali temple that is older than a thousand years. Just facts no beating around the bush with empty talk you give me facts I give you facts.
Yashodharman (Gupta script: Ya-śo-dha-rmma, IAST: Yaśodharman) (r. 515 - 545) was a ruler of Malwa, in Central India, during the early part of the 6th century. He probably belonged to the Second Aulikara dynasty
Huns have believed originally in tengrism in central asia and altaian siberia. Huns have mixed with monghols and koreans in Xiongnu and converted to buddhism partly. Huns mixed with iranic people in south central asia region and converted to zoroastrainism partly. Huns mixed with slavic people in east europe region and converted to christianism partly. After hunnic/turkic people have met arabic islam, they mostly converted to islam. Turkic people are easygoing in religions.
Another thing to note is that the Chinese traveler has mentioned that once the Buddhists disrespecte by mihirkula, that is why the Buddhists were destroyed by mihirkula.
Can someone tell me what were the original Indianized pronunciation of Kidarites and Alchon. Somehow both Kidarite and Alchon sound like Colonial era Western European pronunciations like Cyrus, Darius, Calicut and Cashmere.
1:01= Alchon huns = Alchon -> Al kún + hún s = kún s who are not the leader of the kún branch , but mixed with the " red huns ( red color : means : southern huns ) Etc...
there's no one book which I can recommend. Although I have done a video summarising the whole period. In the description of this video you'll find videos of specific topics of Post-Mauryan history. You can watch these videos and also look at the reference that I have mentioned in the description. Here's the video th-cam.com/video/tvfCzxWIlSQ/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=JayVardhanSingh
Yes, I am. But what that has to do with the question. I haven't come across any genetic study that claims Rajputs are some distinct group that have a significant "Hunnic" ancestry. Since the claim is that Rajputs are descendants of the Huns, don't you think it should also reflect on the genetic makeup of the Rajputs. If you know of any such study do share here.
fire worship= agnihotra anyone. still being practiced in many homes in india daily. ashgabat fire temple has trident, swastika symbols and sanskrit inscription since ancient times
5:51 Mihirkula on this coin looks like Prithviraj Kapoor from Pakeeza as Akbar.😂 Anyways on serious note, awesome episode. 👍 On this coin of Mihirkula we see a scrolling vine branching out on left and right. On one end of this is the Umbrella ☂ and on the other is Trishul 🔱 . The symbols of Buddha and Shiva. Do we know what the coin inscription reads? Also the Kidarite Huns have a dressing style we have come to identify as Iranian the Flying Ribbon Headgear. But the Alcon Huns don’t have this kind of dressing at all. So my question is what leads historians to club both as Huns? What does the ‘Hun’ identity mean- is it ethnic, tribal association, social, political, religious or a geographical identity. And what gives people this dual identity Alcon+Hun?
There's considerable evidence. Firstly the Chinese and other accounts of this period viewed Alchons and Hephthalites as Huns. For example, from Song Yun, we learn that the Hephthalites helped the Alchons rise. Then we have some artefacts that provide information about the close connection between the Alchons and the Hephthalites, suggesting that these two groups were Huns. You've also the seal of Hunaraja from Kaushambi, which probably refers to Toramana. Then in the inscription of Prakashadharman, Yashodharman and the Maukharis, these Alchons are described as Hunas. All of this makes it quite clear that these Alchons were Huns.
Punjabis( especially Punjabi Jatts) are indo Scythians not Hunas. Yasodharman Virk was a jat. (Virk is a Jat clan in Punjab) Yasodharman fought against the invading Hunas and defeated them.
@@hunar354 Yashodharman (Gupta script: Ya-śo-dha-rmma, IAST: Yaśodharman) (r. 515 - 545) was a ruler of Malwa, in Central India, during the early part of the 6th century. He probably belonged to the Second Aulikara dynasty
@@hunar354 Yashodharman (Gupta script: Ya-śo-dha-rmma, IAST: Yaśodharman) (r. 515 - 545) was a ruler of Malwa, in Central India, during the early part of the 6th century. He probably belonged to the Second Aulikara dynasty
When talking about ancient history of northwest region there was no concept of Iran, it was Persia. From Persia to south, it was one region, can be called Bharatvarsh. And, we had all similar religions and cultures with good amount of interchange. This interchange finally resulted into Sanatan dharma. So, please correct yourself and stop using the word Iran, and kly use Persia.
That's a misunderstanding buddsium was already declined and become minorities after death of Ashoka asi Shankaracharya just united the hindu schools and organisations
There's no direct evidence of this attack in any sources as far as I am aware. Some scholars have used Hiuen Tsang's account to argue that Mihirakula probably destroyed Nalanda. But in the account of Hiuen Tsang there's no mention of any destruction of Nalanda
@@JayVardhanSingh also brother why y mentioned greatness of gupta empire very small? Google maps showing it covered punjab , sindh and eastern coastline upto pallava territory
I've made this map based on the evidence of Gupta coinage. In Sindh we don't find any extensive Gupta coinage. The Gupta inscription also doesn't mention that this area was under there control (as far as I am aware). About the Southern part, there was no complete conquest that happened. We only know that these rulers submitted to Samudragupta and after that Samudragupta reinstated these Southern rulers. There's no evidence to suggest that the Gupta ever have effective control in these Southern territories.
Shut up your buddha was a hindu Ashoka was converted budhism rise because king who get exhausted by war converted in Hindu and make many monument and the Buddhism fall because of commons people never except budhism and strictly shatriya tell it religion of women and after that shankara charya now reclaim the temple because they were crossing the limits even thirupati balaji you claim as buddha.south indian will cut budhha Buddhist in peace if they try to convert it you indian budhist were brain wash cry loud 🤡
Sir, it sounds from your description thus dude was hun, but then he worshipped Hindu God Shiva. That makes him Pakistani hindu then why would he will fight with Hindu kings of india? Please make him good human in your our next video. Thank yiu sir n good day. Jussojuan
Hindu kings were not fighting for religious conversion, they were fighting to expand their kingdom, which was happening all over the world at that time😂
@@megalucario9497 Correct 🙏 Oesho - is *Isho - Ishwara* and depicted *Pasupati* (Lord of the senses and those driven solely by the 5 senses - animals). Confirmed this with Dr. Vineet Aggarwal who has a post on the same (quite old - few months old) but is there. My discussion is also there 👍
I find out that Buddhist text were over exaggerated things based on Buddhists and non Buddhists like Ashok's 99 brother killing ,torture chamber, lust before Buddhism but there are evidence of adopting Buddhism before Kalinga war , same with pushymitra shunga, and now these
Heretic buddhists are pure evil.
@@nav9005 proof?
True that's the problem with religious texts. Buddhist texts speak highly of
Kings who provided patronage to Sangha even if they were mediocre rulers.
I take it as exaggerations but not negations. For example - pushyamitra shunga and mihurakula were most likely intolerant of Buddhists. However the numbers proposed are often impossible.
It's the same with the muslim sources depicting their bloody conquests proudly in India. The events were most likely true and bloody as described, but the numbers of armies themselves mentioned in those texts are highly unlikely.
@@nav9005 the chandragupta maurya example was not to demean him cuz chandragupta maurya wasn't Buddhist. However yes there were several hindu religious texts insulting Buddhists Jain's, Buddhists and Jain's did the same lol
Please bring in more information about the origins of ancient Indian religious symbols and their value and changing dynamics with time.
Thanks for the suggestion, will try to do make videos on these topics.
They must have followed some pagan beliefs of the steppes initially.
@Los Blancos Shamanism
WHY ARE YOU USEING THE WORD PEGAN ITS A SLURR
@@VSM101pagan means stranded beliefs yes huns were pagans
Iranian religion was diverse. Not just zoroastianism. Also tengri ism.
@@gravewalker34Tengrism comes from Mongolia. Genghis khan was a follower of Tengrism
But note that Kushan kings were also hindu influence we can see the depiction of Shivji on their coins from vima father of Kanishka to Vasudeva kushana
That is not shiv on the coin! Please stop your false BRAHMAN PROPAGANDA!
@@richardlam9465 that is you fool
@@richardlam9465 Shut up NavBudddhu.
@Jerry Louis with The Thickness What made you come to that conclusion? How many identifying signs of shiva can you see in the coin? Not every cylinder in the world is a shiv ling nor is every person holding a trident shiva. No temple of shiva older than 635AD has been found in the world.
@Jerry Louis with The Thickness Why dont you just name a temple older than 200 BC and get it over with? or tell me a ganesh or a kali temple that is older than a thousand years. Just facts no beating around the bush with empty talk you give me facts I give you facts.
Yashodharman (Gupta script: Ya-śo-dha-rmma, IAST: Yaśodharman) (r. 515 - 545) was a ruler of Malwa, in Central India, during the early part of the 6th century. He probably belonged to the Second Aulikara dynasty
Huns have believed originally in tengrism in central asia and altaian siberia.
Huns have mixed with monghols and koreans in Xiongnu and converted to buddhism partly.
Huns mixed with iranic people in south central asia region and converted to zoroastrainism partly.
Huns mixed with slavic people in east europe region and converted to christianism partly.
After hunnic/turkic people have met arabic islam, they mostly converted to islam.
Turkic people are easygoing in religions.
Yashodharman is such a cool name! Imagine if people named their kids such names today..
Another thing to note is that the Chinese traveler has mentioned that once the Buddhists disrespecte by mihirkula, that is why the Buddhists were destroyed by mihirkula.
Can someone tell me what were the original Indianized pronunciation of Kidarites and Alchon. Somehow both Kidarite and Alchon sound like Colonial era Western European pronunciations like Cyrus, Darius, Calicut and Cashmere.
Good question..I also like to hear Indianized pronunciation for Achaemenid
@@brinjal1371 hakamani
@@brinjal1371Haxāmaniš
Kidarite is किदार Kidara most probably.
Alchons are recorded as Swetahuna or white Huns in Sanskrit texts , the kidarites are most probably regarded with the term "Huna" only .
Informative
Thank you for yet another insightful piece of History :)
Thank you Jay for all the informations.
Thanks jai bhai . Great work 👍
After tormana the Royal Family most likely became hindu
What led to the decline of ancient Indian republics and did any republics exist during the medevial ages in India?
Man this is gem.
he killed even brahamins
1:01= Alchon huns = Alchon -> Al kún + hún s = kún s who are not the leader of the kún branch , but mixed with the " red huns ( red color : means : southern huns ) Etc...
YASHODHARMAN WAS A KALCHURI RAJPUT OF MALWA ...AFTER HIM A COMPLETE LEGECY OF KALCHURI RAJPUTS STARTED
all this amazing history makes me wonder what we could have learned, if we had a few more contemporary historical sources :(
Could you recommend some books sir if possible pertaining to ancient India post maurya ?
there's no one book which I can recommend. Although I have done a video summarising the whole period. In the description of this video you'll find videos of specific topics of Post-Mauryan history. You can watch these videos and also look at the reference that I have mentioned in the description.
Here's the video
th-cam.com/video/tvfCzxWIlSQ/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=JayVardhanSingh
Hello beluga
V. Informative video
Hi mate pls tell us about malav tribe, are Chauhan descendants of Malavs?
Are Huns Gurjara , bcoz there is a gotra found in gurjar which name is hoon and kushan also found so pls correct me ?
Huns + kusan = gurjar. Jaat are scthyain
Are Rajputs and Pathans the descendants of hun tribe?
I don't think Rajputs are the descendants of the Huns.
Jay vardhan is a rajput himself
Yes, I am. But what that has to do with the question. I haven't come across any genetic study that claims Rajputs are some distinct group that have a significant "Hunnic" ancestry. Since the claim is that Rajputs are descendants of the Huns, don't you think it should also reflect on the genetic makeup of the Rajputs. If you know of any such study do share here.
Rajputs being Huns is another hoax spread by British similar to Aryan invasion theory.
@@-rate6326 these are not at all hoax.
fire worship= agnihotra anyone. still being practiced in many homes in india daily. ashgabat fire temple has trident, swastika symbols and sanskrit inscription since ancient times
4:25= Kura = Tura - in hungary . K= T in writting , T is stronger than K . Etc...
5:51 Mihirkula on this coin looks like Prithviraj Kapoor from Pakeeza as Akbar.😂
Anyways on serious note, awesome episode. 👍
On this coin of Mihirkula we see a scrolling vine branching out on left and right. On one end of this is the Umbrella ☂ and on the other is Trishul 🔱 . The symbols of Buddha and Shiva.
Do we know what the coin inscription reads?
Also the Kidarite Huns have a dressing style we have come to identify as Iranian the Flying Ribbon Headgear. But the Alcon Huns don’t have this kind of dressing at all. So my question is what leads historians to club both as Huns? What does the ‘Hun’ identity mean- is it ethnic, tribal association, social, political, religious or a geographical identity. And what gives people this dual identity Alcon+Hun?
There's considerable evidence. Firstly the Chinese and other accounts of this period viewed Alchons and Hephthalites as Huns. For example, from Song Yun, we learn that the Hephthalites helped the Alchons rise.
Then we have some artefacts that provide information about the close connection between the Alchons and the Hephthalites, suggesting that these two groups were Huns. You've also the seal of Hunaraja from Kaushambi, which probably refers to Toramana.
Then in the inscription of Prakashadharman, Yashodharman and the Maukharis, these Alchons are described as Hunas.
All of this makes it quite clear that these Alchons were Huns.
Mihirkula persecuted Buddists and was Shivite
2:35= Kanishka = today , here in hungary : Kaniska -> Kanizsa , a city name : big - nagy kanizsa , small - kis kanizsa . Etc...
Descendants of the Huns in India currently form which groups?
Punjabis
Rajput also
Punjabis( especially Punjabi Jatts) are indo Scythians not Hunas.
Yasodharman Virk was a jat.
(Virk is a Jat clan in Punjab)
Yasodharman fought against the invading Hunas and defeated them.
@@hunar354 Yashodharman (Gupta script: Ya-śo-dha-rmma, IAST: Yaśodharman) (r. 515 - 545) was a ruler of Malwa, in Central India, during the early part of the 6th century. He probably belonged to the Second Aulikara dynasty
@@hunar354 Yashodharman (Gupta script: Ya-śo-dha-rmma, IAST: Yaśodharman) (r. 515 - 545) was a ruler of Malwa, in Central India, during the early part of the 6th century. He probably belonged to the Second Aulikara dynasty
When talking about ancient history of northwest region there was no concept of Iran, it was Persia. From Persia to south, it was one region, can be called Bharatvarsh. And, we had all similar religions and cultures with good amount of interchange. This interchange finally resulted into Sanatan dharma.
So, please correct yourself and stop using the word Iran, and kly use Persia.
Taxila was not bhuddhist it was Hindu university
Any book suggestions on Hun history ??
The Alkan: A Hunnic People in South Asia by Hans T Bakker
Italian car Lamborghini has bull symbol and Maserati's symbol is trident it means they are shavite 😮
Tormaan are hindu jat and rajpoot tribe .
Aulikhakar alsko jat tribe .
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
8:18= Chevite , what that mean in english ?
Shaivites, those who worship Lord Shiva
your pronunciation of huns is wrong.They were called हूण , न कि हंस । विचार करें।
3rd One
Hindi mei bhi episode banaye please🙏
bhai kucch samay baad Hindi channel shuru hoga
@@JayVardhanSingh thank you 🙏
Did Huns write "हूण" on the back of their horses? 😂
Had Adi Shankaracharya not been there India would have been Buddist country
Glory to the shankaracharya 🙏🏽🙏🏽
That's a misunderstanding buddsium was already declined and become minorities after death of Ashoka asi Shankaracharya just united the hindu schools and organisations
why is there never a straight answer,
Because it’s history. Various sources various answers
Migirkula also attacked nalanda
No it was khilji who attacked
@@gameruleworld.1889 bruh, even mihirkula attacked it
He destroyed the Takshashila university instead.
@@jyotirmayamohanty5723 bro, nalanda was attacked thrice
First by mihirkula
Second by shashank
Third by khilji
There's no direct evidence of this attack in any sources as far as I am aware. Some scholars have used Hiuen Tsang's account to argue that Mihirakula probably destroyed Nalanda. But in the account of Hiuen Tsang there's no mention of any destruction of Nalanda
Can anybody tell who are latest descendants of huns in India and pak
Rajputs
@@AsadAli-jc5tgshut up don't knowledge
Gurjars and Rabaris have gotra named HUN
For your kind information ! (Huns) so called, are nothing more Modern Tibet. If you study Tibet old History then u would be more clear about it.
Do you have any guess who are descendants of alchon huns in India
Tough to say as there're not enough genetic studies.
@@JayVardhanSingh and what about indo scythians
same, we don't know much about the genetic footprint of these invasion.
Tomar/Tanwar rajput are direct descendant of toraman hun.
@@rajchauhan-xx8xc only those tomars who live in jaunsar,shimla and sirmaur area
who minted the oldest coins in india.
We don't know
Peoples of Indus valley civilization
Did Sassanid ruled gandhar?
Yes, a cadet dynasty called Indo Sassanids.
I've covered it in this video. Do watch it.
th-cam.com/video/VxBUGkhGHL4/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=JayVardhanSingh
@@JayVardhanSingh also brother why y mentioned greatness of gupta empire very small? Google maps showing it covered punjab , sindh and eastern coastline upto pallava territory
I've made this map based on the evidence of Gupta coinage.
In Sindh we don't find any extensive Gupta coinage. The Gupta inscription also doesn't mention that this area was under there control (as far as I am aware).
About the Southern part, there was no complete conquest that happened. We only know that these rulers submitted to Samudragupta and after that Samudragupta reinstated these Southern rulers. There's no evidence to suggest that the Gupta ever have effective control in these Southern territories.
@@JayVardhanSingh so this is ur made up map or this map also mentioned by eminent Historians.
Plz correct the spelling if Religion 🙏
thanks for pointing it out
Tengri religion
Buddhism true religion of bharat
.
Brahmino ney sab tbah kar diya
Cry babe 'cause buddhism is itself part of Sanatan Culture
Shut up your buddha was a hindu Ashoka was converted budhism rise because king who get exhausted by war converted in Hindu and make many monument and the Buddhism fall because of commons people never except budhism and strictly shatriya tell it religion of women and after that shankara charya now reclaim the temple because they were crossing the limits even thirupati balaji you claim as buddha.south indian will cut budhha Buddhist in peace if they try to convert it you indian budhist were brain wash cry loud 🤡
Sir, it sounds from your description thus dude was hun, but then he worshipped Hindu God Shiva. That makes him Pakistani hindu then why would he will fight with Hindu kings of india?
Please make him good human in your our next video. Thank yiu sir n good day. Jussojuan
Didn't Hindu kings in India fight each other?
Hindus fought each other all the time 🤣
Hindu kings were not fighting for religious conversion, they were fighting to expand their kingdom, which was happening all over the world at that time😂
was Mihirkula shiva similar to oesho?
Shiva and oesho are one not different there are Depictions of lord Shiva with trishula from 2nd century BCE coins.
@@megalucario9497 Correct 🙏 Oesho - is *Isho - Ishwara* and depicted *Pasupati* (Lord of the senses and those driven solely by the 5 senses - animals). Confirmed this with Dr. Vineet Aggarwal who has a post on the same (quite old - few months old) but is there. My discussion is also there 👍
it is Shiva
😫🕵🏿♂️☺️🤔
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Brahminism born in 700AD
and Bhimism born in 1947
@@trendshort_ 😂