"I'm sorry you're soft" 🤣🤣🤣 You had me rolling there! This video is 100% on point. I'm not pro-Pan or anti-Pan, just let the man do what he wants to do and quit crying about it. He has always been up front when he is doing a sponsored video and lets you know right away so you can go click on something else if you don't like it. Detailers can simultaneously be some of the best people and the worst people. Why are you (the haters) so hurt that someone comes out with another line of products? No one is forcing anyone to buy it. So what if he gives his products the top award in his video? His "awards" have always been based on his subjective opinion and he always gives several products in each category that could also qualify as "best." Don't tie your self worth into the products you use. If your favorite TH-cam detailer doesn't agree, that doesn't mean you suck. I mean...you might...but not because an influencer agrees/disagrees with you. He doesn't owe you jack and he's not the arbiter of all detailing truth. You expect him to work for free to fall on the sword for you? The guy has been doing his own grind and has probably used more detailing products than any one single person alive. I think he has earned the right to come out with his own line and call it "the best" on his own channel. Detailing in 2024 is at least 90% skill and probably less than 5% product. Compared to the old school products that were available to consumers/detailers at the big box stores and auto parts stores, things have progressed greatly. Yeah there's a lot of white label stuff out there, but Pan's ain't it from what I've seen so far. I've used a couple of his products (the rinseless and the spray polish) and they are really damn good. It is all splitting hairs at this point, find what you like and focus on how to use the products you have. A good detailer can get the same results with anything. Some may take more time/money than others, but that's up to you to decide as you improve yourself and your business (or just your skills/results if you're a DIYer). Joel and Sal, I hope you guys hit a million and make your own line so you can tell all the haters where to go. Using a DETAILS line would be dope!
@@ilikechickensausages2075Again, that is factually incorrect. No wonder you are getting blocked from channels left and right. All you do is spread lies and disinformation. What “exposed” video are you referring to? The one about lies where I made a video exposing the actual truth with the facts? Did you see how that backfired on that small channel that turned irrelevant, and that brand that had shady business tactics? Haha yeah not to good for either of those two. And my channel kept growing as people unsubscribed from the deceitful channel and came to mine. And I have ALWAYS been transparent about sponsored content on my channel. Always gave proper disclosures. The proof is right there in the videos. Way before that “exposed” garbage video you are referring to. And by the way, proper disclosure shouldn’t be an option, it’s the RULE. Some don’t disclose sponsored content, but I always do. Find me just one sponsored video that I haven’t disclosed. Good luck, there is none. I always did full transparent disclosure. So you might not like me, which is normal as I can’t please everyone. Just as you don’t please everyone. But hiding behind a fake username with no profile picture and acting like a child in posts typing trolling comments like “I’m here for the comments 🍿” is beyond immature and contributes absolutely nothing to the detailing community. Ask yourself this: are your comments made to be helpful or hurtful? Food for thought. But one thing I’ll always stand against is lies, disinformation and cyber bullying.
I'm a Pan The Organizer fan. I have learned A LOT about detailing from his videos. He's legit, successful and brilliant in my opinion. Glad to see that you guys are in his corner!!!😊
Some of my viewers sent me the link to the video and told me I had to watch it. So here I am, and I have to say….. man was I ever entertained from the beginning all the way until the end!! 🙌🏻😂😂 You guys are entertaining and funny! And through all that fun, you still managed to have a mature grown up discussion on many good points. We’ll have to sit down and listen to some Wu together one day, and raise our glass to the haters while listening to Damn! by YoungBloodZ!! 😉 I will share this video on my socials, as it’s worth the watch. I agreed with many of your points here, including one where you spoke about some people being straight up jealous. I was always taught to never be jealous or envious of others in my life. If I see someone more successful than I am, I take the time to ask them questions about how they got to this point in their life, in hopes I can improve my own life. Anyhow Joel and Sal, I wanted to let you know this was a great watch and I wish you both continued success with your channel! 🔥🔥
He is fundamental to the detailing community. The fact that he took a risk to make his own brand is 🐐 moves. Happy for him and wish him all the best. Shout-out to House of Rags (THOR) for that goat move distribution deal. Thank you for your review.
The way I see it Pan has studied the market and knows what the best ingredients are and has tried to put together great products at a reasonable price. I ordered the three year ceramic coating, the panel prep and shampoo and tire shine. I’ve tried the shampoo and it seems to work and the tire shine has after over a week has worked out great even after a couple days of rain and a wash. I need to squeeze out some time before it gets nasty and get my new GTI in the garage for a few days and get it polished and get the ceramic coating on it for winter.
Haters gonna hate. People get so mad that others have a passion and also work hard to make a living with it. Like isnt that normal? Do the haters go to work and not expect to earn money? I think not! Love you guys. Love pan, love jamie eddie and the crew, love p&s, love turtle wax, love phoenix, love HUMBERTO, love detailing yo! Lets goooo stay positive 🎉❤
Of course he was going to put his stuff on top. He has to. The problem is not Pan or the products, it’s the incentive system that’s now in place, it’s not an unbiased opinion. And that’s okay, it just means the nature of his channel changes from unbiased review to product line promotion. All good, I’ll probably still watch some of his stuff and eventually plan to try out some of his products. For now I sit and watch the other TH-camrs without product lines for opinions and reviews. Perhaps pan should go in the direction of DIY Detail and lean more into instructional content and/or showing us more about testing and developing these products.
Your point is valid but let’s remember that Pan doesn’t review most of what is sent to him. He doesn’t say something is great if it’s not because he knows his reputation is on the line every time he gives his seal of approval. I do understand what you’re saying though.
I don’t always get a chance to watch your videos, but this morning I am handwashing about 30 pads and have you on to listen at the same time. This is really cool, feels like I’m just hanging out with you guys. Love it, thank you! Tim
@@BigCyKOFTW 100% correct any body that ever says anything that's negative about some one on you tube is pretty much just a loser with no one that loves them in there life
@diydetailofficial You're getting rooked by pan, how is this positive for your business? When sales go down (let's say)50%, is that a good thing? His products are basically priced the same in every category, strange! He also promotes your products on the House of rags, strange! 1. Either you guys & pan are in an agreement (like: pan only sticks with his small line of products), we are all making big bucks, even with a split! 2. You guys think that followers of pan will buy your products, when pans cost the same. Yeah! 3. He promotes his products, takes 50% of your profits, laughs behind your back and puts on his nice guy face by promoting your products, while promoting his products ......and so on! If Ukraine had the moral of you guys, then Russia would be bigger today. @DETAILSofficial please dont take the comment down........opinions should be allowed.
@diydetailofficial You're getting rooked by pan, how is this positive for your business? When sales go down (let's say)50%, is that a good thing? His products are basically priced the same in every category, strange! He also promotes your products on the House of rags, strange! 1. Either you guys & pan are in an agreement (like: pan only sticks with his small line of products), we are all making big bucks, even with a split! 2. You guys think that followers of pan will buy your products, when pans cost the same. Yeah! 3. He promotes his products, takes 50% of your profits, laughs behind your back and puts on his nice guy face by promoting your products, while promoting his products ......and so on! If Ukraine had the moral of you guys, then Russia would be bigger today. @DETAILSofficial please dont take the comment down........opinions should be allowed.
@diydetailofficial You're getting rooked by pan, how is this positive for your business? When sales go down (let's say)50%, is that a good thing? His products are basically priced the same in every category, strange! He also promotes your products on the House of rags, strange! 1. Either you guys & pan are in an agreement (like: pan only sticks with his small line of products), we are all making big bucks, even with a split! 2. You guys think that followers of pan will buy your products, when pans cost the same. Yeah! 3. He promotes his products, takes 50% of your profits, laughs behind your back and puts on his nice guy face by promoting your products, while promoting his products ......and so on! If Ukraine had the moral of you guys, then Russia would be bigger today. @DETAILSofficial please dont take the comment down........opinions should be allowed.
Realest episode ever, I do agree with him been sitting counting money 😂. Pan is a great guy I like him but saying your products are the best is a lil out of line, throwing dirt at Maxshine 😂 solid Yall need more episode like this keep in it REAL
Best line in this video "I am sorry your soft" . Pan beleives in his products and I have used his soap and is very good pH neutral soap. You guys take no prisoners and this why I watch your channel. I leard from bud Eddie.
“Try it before you knock it.” The simple age old saying that applies to everything. Throwing shade without having tried the product(s) in question invalidates your argument and opinion immediately. I’m personally going to try the coating, spray polish and panel prep. If I like it, great; win-win. If not, oh well, lesson learned.
Sorry for the long-winded response- TLDR; everything I used was fantastic. I finally got around to trying it all. Quick background history, I’ve worked in a detail shop that used GTechniq crystal serum ultra. In that particular shop environment and Hawaii weather, buff off was literally 10 seconds or less. Wait any longer and a repolish with a heavy compound was needed. Working in sections no bigger than 2 sqft was tedious. Also tried Adam’s advanced graphene coating; didn’t last a year on my hood. 2017 Honda civic hatchback, coated with crystal serum ultra back in 2019. Of course I started with the spray polish. Paired with the Rupes azure pad, it did well to polish off my dying 5 year old CSU coating. Doesn’t remove scratches you can feel with your fingernail but blends them well. Plus, I didn’t wanna go too far on thin Honda paint. Finishes great, practically don’t need a jeweling step unless you really want to. Since I was in a carport rather than a more environmentally controlled garage, I had to use 1 extra spray compared to instructions. Panel prep spray is potent but I did wipe down the entire car twice to be sure. Just don’t take a big whiff straight from the bottle. The best experience coming from CSU is the workability with Pan’s coating. I bought and used the 8 year version. I was able to coat huge sections without worry. I even forgot about a side mirror for 10 minutes and it still wiped off well. Haven’t tested any hydrophobics but there are enough video reviews already. It’s definitely slick on wipe off and gets even slicker in just minutes. Overall, I’m quite impressed with what I used. I doubt it’s gonna be a cerakote v1 ordeal, but time will tell. Also, it’s great that 1 bottle can coat everything rather than surface-specific coatings. I just hope durability isn’t compromised being formulated that way.
Pan is 2nd compared to subscribers and is Canadian based, Detail Geek is 1st with about 3 million subscribers and has had his own line out for some time.
I come to you tube for information to learn and in exchange for that the creator gets views and likes and that you tube money .. i think the problem comes from when these creators just start looking at there audience as stupid drones they can just make money off of ... have some integrity..never trust anybody with a link in the bio🙏
I'm pretty sure that when both sides decide to lay down their pressure guns and set aside their Mit on a Stick's, it will be obvious that two hard-hitting new brands, CLEAN. by Pan the Organizer and Detail Co, rolled out on September 21, 2024. As with ALL the brands over the last couple of years, new scents, safer chemicals, and improved formulations are leading to the best selection detailers have ever seen. I was there on launch morning for the Detail Co line and was surprised to see CLEAN. on the site. Yes, I took a chance and filled my cart with both of these new unknowns. It was great to see their excitement, but some cringe-worthy moments popped up, too. I think the timing of Pan's the Best of 2024 video was way too premature... especially if you had made it to the point in the video when one of the category's winner didn't even have a bottle of product to show! Fast forward a couple of weeks and there are some INDEPENDENT reviews out there. Heck, I made my first video showing the different behavior between four rinseless washes: CLEAN RW, DIY Detail RWv2, ADS HERO, and Detail Co Nemesis. It was my second time using CLEAN and Detail Co and based on my SUBJECTIVE rating of smell and dry-off, I tip my hat to Detail Co. All four companies make top notch products with very subtle differences. The overall outcome, in the rinseless wash category, is outstanding for ANY one that you choose. Great video guys! I look forward to seeing more from DETAILS! Keep innovating and pushing the envelope!
Guys you need srsly to talk to the ppl from KliN Korean microfibre, tell them Europe is ripe for the taking, i would buy those towels per your rec, but man i can't find them here in Poland :/
@@DETAILSofficial Damn, man i would like to test them, still, we have great towels like Work Stuff King (you guys should try it if your bored with perfection of the Klin :) and Zerda.
There‘s one major issue with what you said which is also the one thing that Pan doesn‘t seem to understand: Pan did NOT say that his products are „the best“ in his opinion, he literally said that his products are, and i quote: „the best in the market, period“. That‘s what he said. And you simply cannot overlook that.
@@SalfromDETAILS that‘s not what I said nor is it relevant to what I wrote. It is a strawman argument, so please stay on topic. What I am saying is that there is a tangible mismatch between the argumentation that all of this is just Pan‘s opinion, and what Pan actually and factually said. From someone who repeatedly sais about himself that he has an academic background, we can and should expect that he understands and sees the importance of being precise in the wording he uses. Also, there is a stark difference between claims put out by faceless brands and claims put out by an allegedly independent influencer / product tester who not only sells his own products, but wants to make us believe that his testing means something for the industry and that his testing results are reliable - as has been stated by Pan several times.
@@SalfromDETAILS can you name me at the very least 5 car detailing brands which publicly state that their products are the best in the market, incl. evidence?
@@AndreasSchwarzinger I hear you my man. I just dont care enough nor does it bother me with what he said or anybody else claims about their product. I appreciate your feedback. I guess we all have differrent opions of what makes something the best.
@@SalfromDETAILS that‘s absolutely true! And that‘s exactly why I personally think it‘s so important to be fair and precise when claiming something is „the best“, especially when you run a channel with over 1 million subscribers. As Uncle Ben said: „With great power comes great responsibility.“
Al FINAL VAS A TERMINAR USANDOLO PARA COMPROBAR SI ES EL MEJOR… tu carnal apenas 2 años detallando y ya se SIENTE UN MASTER DE DETAIL no mms Xq no has sakado tu marca ?
You're right. My brother has been detailing for only 3 years. And within those three years he has fully committed his time, energy and efforts into continuous improvement which can't be said for most detailers and that's why they are at the same level, earning the same pay with the same clientele for decades. No need to debate on this, we consult with people everyday in this situation and IT IS THE NORM. We speak about what we know and help others learn. So on behalf of my brother and I we thank you for watching and learning .
We probably will use it but it wont be to see if its the best, we will use it just to simply support. Yes i only been detailing for 3 years. Thank you for watching. My man, i never would claim Im a master detailer. Too many cats in the game that hold that title. What I would say and what I can guarantee is that Im a master of trying to find solutions. Thanks again for watching and supporting. Excellent discussion.
A million or whatever subscribers or whatever.... but from the other best products to his is the world best 🤔 and taking the video down how's that looking for him
@@DETAILSofficial I just saw another video sometimes just talking about it... how he took the video down because of the controversy that his products got award of best 🙆🏾♂️
@@cebasmb8250 Here are the facts. The video was removed. After reading the feedback in the comments, there were a lot of people that were saying that I should not have included my line of products and the ones from Detail Co in the awards, as they are new to the market and not tested by the public yet. When it was time to start prepping for the awards video, I asked myself the question: “Should I include my own products or not?” And I had decided to include them, because in my heart of hearts I knew how good they were since I had spent so much time on R&D and testing. I had also been able to test a few Detail Co products ahead of launch to share my feedback with the owners, and I really enjoyed them. Hence why they were also included. As people now started receiving their orders and started testing, independent reviews are popping up and show that my products perform to a very high level. I’ll let the products speak for themselves. I want to thank everyone for their continued support of the CLEAN By Pan The Organizer launch of car care products!
Anything and absolutely anything negative brought towards pan he has brought on himself based on how he has handled the release of these products and his obnoxious behavior. He has always been obnoxious and his channel has been nothing more than promoting companies and products that line his pockets. Which is fine. But he promotes himself as something different. He is a scam.
My brother firstly well said and I agree with you. Being in the motor industry all my life and owning my own surface protection detail company I can say that all these people that are reviewing the best in world products are trying to use it to boost their channel that's all and if you say anything negivate about him his review squads will come out with him to attack lol. People can call that been a hater but the fact is that every product he ever reviewed was to his benefit and for his pocket! The detailers that dont take money for Stella reviews are left behind. The best example is pans 2024 awards😂. Keep it real brother.
"I'm sorry you're soft" 🤣🤣🤣 You had me rolling there!
This video is 100% on point. I'm not pro-Pan or anti-Pan, just let the man do what he wants to do and quit crying about it. He has always been up front when he is doing a sponsored video and lets you know right away so you can go click on something else if you don't like it.
Detailers can simultaneously be some of the best people and the worst people. Why are you (the haters) so hurt that someone comes out with another line of products? No one is forcing anyone to buy it. So what if he gives his products the top award in his video? His "awards" have always been based on his subjective opinion and he always gives several products in each category that could also qualify as "best." Don't tie your self worth into the products you use. If your favorite TH-cam detailer doesn't agree, that doesn't mean you suck. I mean...you might...but not because an influencer agrees/disagrees with you. He doesn't owe you jack and he's not the arbiter of all detailing truth. You expect him to work for free to fall on the sword for you? The guy has been doing his own grind and has probably used more detailing products than any one single person alive. I think he has earned the right to come out with his own line and call it "the best" on his own channel.
Detailing in 2024 is at least 90% skill and probably less than 5% product. Compared to the old school products that were available to consumers/detailers at the big box stores and auto parts stores, things have progressed greatly. Yeah there's a lot of white label stuff out there, but Pan's ain't it from what I've seen so far. I've used a couple of his products (the rinseless and the spray polish) and they are really damn good. It is all splitting hairs at this point, find what you like and focus on how to use the products you have. A good detailer can get the same results with anything. Some may take more time/money than others, but that's up to you to decide as you improve yourself and your business (or just your skills/results if you're a DIYer).
Joel and Sal, I hope you guys hit a million and make your own line so you can tell all the haters where to go. Using a DETAILS line would be dope!
Comment of the year
I had to go the store and get some reading glasses for this comment.
@@SalfromDETAILS 🤣✌️
Only up front about paid for reviews, after he was exposed.
@@ilikechickensausages2075Again, that is factually incorrect. No wonder you are getting blocked from channels left and right. All you do is spread lies and disinformation.
What “exposed” video are you referring to? The one about lies where I made a video exposing the actual truth with the facts? Did you see how that backfired on that small channel that turned irrelevant, and that brand that had shady business tactics? Haha yeah not to good for either of those two. And my channel kept growing as people unsubscribed from the deceitful channel and came to mine.
And I have ALWAYS been transparent about sponsored content on my channel. Always gave proper disclosures. The proof is right there in the videos. Way before that “exposed” garbage video you are referring to.
And by the way, proper disclosure shouldn’t be an option, it’s the RULE. Some don’t disclose sponsored content, but I always do. Find me just one sponsored video that I haven’t disclosed. Good luck, there is none. I always did full transparent disclosure.
So you might not like me, which is normal as I can’t please everyone. Just as you don’t please everyone. But hiding behind a fake username with no profile picture and acting like a child in posts typing trolling comments like “I’m here for the comments 🍿” is beyond immature and contributes absolutely nothing to the detailing community.
Ask yourself this: are your comments made to be helpful or hurtful? Food for thought.
But one thing I’ll always stand against is lies, disinformation and cyber bullying.
I'm a Pan The Organizer fan. I have learned A LOT about detailing from his videos. He's legit, successful and brilliant in my opinion. Glad to see that you guys are in his corner!!!😊
We are more like the announcers ringside, always seeing what's going on.
Some of my viewers sent me the link to the video and told me I had to watch it. So here I am, and I have to say….. man was I ever entertained from the beginning all the way until the end!! 🙌🏻😂😂
You guys are entertaining and funny! And through all that fun, you still managed to have a mature grown up discussion on many good points.
We’ll have to sit down and listen to some Wu together one day, and raise our glass to the haters while listening to Damn! by YoungBloodZ!! 😉
I will share this video on my socials, as it’s worth the watch.
I agreed with many of your points here, including one where you spoke about some people being straight up jealous. I was always taught to never be jealous or envious of others in my life. If I see someone more successful than I am, I take the time to ask them questions about how they got to this point in their life, in hopes I can improve my own life.
Anyhow Joel and Sal, I wanted to let you know this was a great watch and I wish you both continued success with your channel! 🔥🔥
Cool bro, ill make sure to pin your comment on top.
Well said Pan!
He is fundamental to the detailing community. The fact that he took a risk to make his own brand is 🐐 moves. Happy for him and wish him all the best. Shout-out to House of Rags (THOR) for that goat move distribution deal. Thank you for your review.
Well said!
Anybody makin dope moves winning.
@@SalfromDETAILS it's not easy to surround yourself with good people. You guys got it right... Keep it up
Great video boys, always keeping it real 🫡
You already know!
The way I see it Pan has studied the market and knows what the best ingredients are and has tried to put together great products at a reasonable price. I ordered the three year ceramic coating, the panel prep and shampoo and tire shine. I’ve tried the shampoo and it seems to work and the tire shine has after over a week has worked out great even after a couple days of rain and a wash.
I need to squeeze out some time before it gets nasty and get my new GTI in the garage for a few days and get it polished and get the ceramic coating on it for winter.
@@davidbias2509 Winter is coming fast. Let me know how it turns out!
Gotta get it prepped for winter!
Great conversation! First time listener I’ll be back!
Thanks BX. We have another one droppin soon.
WELCOME! thank you for the watch and support. We try to kick the facts over here.
Brown bags were worth da watch🤙👍
💯 thank you for the support
Worth a subscribe also 😆
@@DETAILSofficial rajah dat
Thanks Kelly. We got a brown bag for you too!!
Haters gonna hate. People get so mad that others have a passion and also work hard to make a living with it. Like isnt that normal? Do the haters go to work and not expect to earn money? I think not! Love you guys. Love pan, love jamie eddie and the crew, love p&s, love turtle wax, love phoenix, love HUMBERTO, love detailing yo! Lets goooo stay positive 🎉❤
Lovin the energy Kirk. Some folks Armor All. I aint mad at em.
@@kirkwilson5900 let's get this $
Of course he was going to put his stuff on top. He has to. The problem is not Pan or the products, it’s the incentive system that’s now in place, it’s not an unbiased opinion. And that’s okay, it just means the nature of his channel changes from unbiased review to product line promotion. All good, I’ll probably still watch some of his stuff and eventually plan to try out some of his products.
For now I sit and watch the other TH-camrs without product lines for opinions and reviews. Perhaps pan should go in the direction of DIY Detail and lean more into instructional content and/or showing us more about testing and developing these products.
I can dig it.
I'm sure he has a good pivot ahead
Your point is valid but let’s remember that Pan doesn’t review most of what is sent to him. He doesn’t say something is great if it’s not because he knows his reputation is on the line every time he gives his seal of approval. I do understand what you’re saying though.
I don’t always get a chance to watch your videos, but this morning I am handwashing about 30 pads and have you on to listen at the same time.
This is really cool, feels like I’m just hanging out with you guys. Love it, thank you! Tim
@ShineYourLightDetailing thank you Tim. Glad you enjoyed the content, plenty more to come
I guess I’m on the DETAILS bandwagon! I might get “cancelled” in the future…lol…
Excellent content fellas! Keep it rollin’
You cant get canceled if you are already canceled.
PLENTY on the way! Thank you for the support!
Spot on discussion. People just want to hate, and they’re using this as a reason. They haven’t even tried the products and just want to talk shit.
@@BigCyKOFTW 100% correct any body that ever says anything that's negative about some one on you tube is pretty much just a loser with no one that loves them in there life
@@BigCyKOFTW the discussion needed to be had
Love your channel guys! You guys are hilarious too. Yall be keeping it 💯
@@vaughnoliver2810 that's the mission. 💯
Y’all are hilarious!!! 😂 😂 I’m subscribing to this channel right now!! 👍🏽
Thanks Vero. Stay tuned.
@@SalfromDETAILS Thank you guys!
WELCOME! and THANK YOU , we are just getting started! We do have tons of content for you to catch up on!
Sounds great! I can’t wait! 🍻
Great discussion as always Sal and Joel.
DIY in the building!
What was your favorite part?
@diydetailofficial You're getting rooked by pan, how is this positive for your business?
When sales go down (let's say)50%, is that a good thing?
His products are basically priced the same in every category, strange! He also promotes your products on the House of rags, strange!
1. Either you guys & pan are in an agreement (like: pan only sticks with his small line of products), we are all making big bucks, even with a split!
2. You guys think that followers of pan will buy your products, when pans cost the same. Yeah!
3. He promotes his products, takes 50% of your profits, laughs behind your back and puts on his nice guy face by promoting your products, while promoting his products ......and so on!
If Ukraine had the moral of you guys, then Russia would be bigger today.
@DETAILSofficial please dont take the comment down........opinions should be allowed.
@diydetailofficial You're getting rooked by pan, how is this positive for your business?
When sales go down (let's say)50%, is that a good thing?
His products are basically priced the same in every category, strange! He also promotes your products on the House of rags, strange!
1. Either you guys & pan are in an agreement (like: pan only sticks with his small line of products), we are all making big bucks, even with a split!
2. You guys think that followers of pan will buy your products, when pans cost the same. Yeah!
3. He promotes his products, takes 50% of your profits, laughs behind your back and puts on his nice guy face by promoting your products, while promoting his products ......and so on!
If Ukraine had the moral of you guys, then Russia would be bigger today.
@DETAILSofficial please dont take the comment down........opinions should be allowed.
@diydetailofficial You're getting rooked by pan, how is this positive for your business?
When sales go down (let's say)50%, is that a good thing?
His products are basically priced the same in every category, strange! He also promotes your products on the House of rags, strange!
1. Either you guys & pan are in an agreement (like: pan only sticks with his small line of products), we are all making big bucks, even with a split!
2. You guys think that followers of pan will buy your products, when pans cost the same. Yeah!
3. He promotes his products, takes 50% of your profits, laughs behind your back and puts on his nice guy face by promoting your products, while promoting his products ......and so on!
If Ukraine had the moral of you guys, then Russia would be bigger today.
@DETAILSofficial please dont take the comment down........opinions should be allowed.
Realest episode ever, I do agree with him been sitting counting money 😂. Pan is a great guy I like him but saying your products are the best is a lil out of line, throwing dirt at Maxshine 😂 solid Yall need more episode like this keep in it REAL
@AndySantiago-yd5lh from now on Andy. ALL our content will be like this
Best line in this video "I am sorry your soft" . Pan beleives in his products and I have used his soap and is very good pH neutral soap. You guys take no prisoners and this why I watch your channel. I leard from bud Eddie.
Thank you for the support! We will keep the content coming 🔥
Thanks Doc.
Pretty much nailed it.
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@@mustangsX19 nailed guys you rock!
what an incredible amount of glaze 🍩
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@@brianellison1424 these compounds definitely have fillers huh lol
first time listening. yall great. hip hop head detailers. I f with this!!!
Yes Suh. My bro Joel has a mean hip hop vinyl collection.
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“Try it before you knock it.” The simple age old saying that applies to everything. Throwing shade without having tried the product(s) in question invalidates your argument and opinion immediately. I’m personally going to try the coating, spray polish and panel prep. If I like it, great; win-win. If not, oh well, lesson learned.
Thanks for the comment. Let us kmow how those products work out for you.
@@godowarus let us know what you think of it.
Sorry for the long-winded response- TLDR; everything I used was fantastic.
I finally got around to trying it all. Quick background history, I’ve worked in a detail shop that used GTechniq crystal serum ultra. In that particular shop environment and Hawaii weather, buff off was literally 10 seconds or less. Wait any longer and a repolish with a heavy compound was needed. Working in sections no bigger than 2 sqft was tedious. Also tried Adam’s advanced graphene coating; didn’t last a year on my hood.
2017 Honda civic hatchback, coated with crystal serum ultra back in 2019. Of course I started with the spray polish. Paired with the Rupes azure pad, it did well to polish off my dying 5 year old CSU coating. Doesn’t remove scratches you can feel with your fingernail but blends them well. Plus, I didn’t wanna go too far on thin Honda paint. Finishes great, practically don’t need a jeweling step unless you really want to. Since I was in a carport rather than a more environmentally controlled garage, I had to use 1 extra spray compared to instructions. Panel prep spray is potent but I did wipe down the entire car twice to be sure. Just don’t take a big whiff straight from the bottle.
The best experience coming from CSU is the workability with Pan’s coating. I bought and used the 8 year version. I was able to coat huge sections without worry. I even forgot about a side mirror for 10 minutes and it still wiped off well. Haven’t tested any hydrophobics but there are enough video reviews already. It’s definitely slick on wipe off and gets even slicker in just minutes. Overall, I’m quite impressed with what I used. I doubt it’s gonna be a cerakote v1 ordeal, but time will tell.
Also, it’s great that 1 bottle can coat everything rather than surface-specific coatings. I just hope durability isn’t compromised being formulated that way.
yo pan is down with the wu and 50. Cooool
His shoe game is NASTY!
28:28 😂 Hope they listened. Real talk.
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'You right, you right"
Good morning brothers
Good morning Jamie! You ready for SEMA?
Jaime sup brotha
Pans chemicals are the safest chemicals on the market.
So would you consider it the best in that category?
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Love you two were busting a gut👌. I’ve got to get me some of that Tall boy Malt Liquor 👌
What's up David! Always showing us love
@@DETAILSofficial you bet Joel and Sal Keeping the Knuckle Heads grounded is necessary. Reminding us to keep Grinding 🫡🫡😤
@@davidboyce6427My man. I havent had some Steel Reserve since my Navy days.
Pan is 2nd compared to subscribers and is Canadian based, Detail Geek is 1st with about 3 million subscribers and has had his own line out for some time.
Yep, Canadian as well right?
Huge s/o to all them cats.
@@DETAILSofficial Sorry i don't understand your comment but if you mean Detail Geek yes his Canadian.
You guys forgot to pour some for the dead homies! 😂
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Some 40s in that brown bag 🍻 probably some Arnold Palmer iced tea lol 😂
It was Zima
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You can't hate on Pan. If you do, you're just a hater. I learned a lot from him and, of course, from Detail. Details and pan are on point. 💪🏼
Stop the HATE ✋️
Great content 😃
Thank you ! Should we make more content like this?
@@DETAILSofficial Yes… And Doit live so people Can interact with you
@@hipolitocampos1421 you got it!
Its on!!!!
Personal clean package pimping gaaahhh damn 😂😂
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Thats how you have to do it.
Alright I'd pay to see Pan flowing to Triumph by Wu Tang... I bomb automically...
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😂 Or pullin up in a 1994 Mercedes Benz SL500 pumping C.R.E.A.M. through dual 12” Cerwin Vega subs!
@@PanTheOrganizer that's what I'm talking about!
I come to you tube for information to learn and in exchange for that the creator gets views and likes and that you tube money .. i think the problem comes from when these creators just start looking at there audience as stupid drones they can just make money off of ... have some integrity..never trust anybody with a link in the bio🙏
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I hear ya Juice but some folks come to youtube just TO click on a link!
I'm pretty sure that when both sides decide to lay down their pressure guns and set aside their Mit on a Stick's, it will be obvious that two hard-hitting new brands, CLEAN. by Pan the Organizer and Detail Co, rolled out on September 21, 2024. As with ALL the brands over the last couple of years, new scents, safer chemicals, and improved formulations are leading to the best selection detailers have ever seen.
I was there on launch morning for the Detail Co line and was surprised to see CLEAN. on the site. Yes, I took a chance and filled my cart with both of these new unknowns. It was great to see their excitement, but some cringe-worthy moments popped up, too. I think the timing of Pan's the Best of 2024 video was way too premature... especially if you had made it to the point in the video when one of the category's winner didn't even have a bottle of product to show!
Fast forward a couple of weeks and there are some INDEPENDENT reviews out there. Heck, I made my first video showing the different behavior between four rinseless washes: CLEAN RW, DIY Detail RWv2, ADS HERO, and Detail Co Nemesis. It was my second time using CLEAN and Detail Co and based on my SUBJECTIVE rating of smell and dry-off, I tip my hat to Detail Co. All four companies make top notch products with very subtle differences. The overall outcome, in the rinseless wash category, is outstanding for ANY one that you choose.
Great video guys! I look forward to seeing more from DETAILS! Keep innovating and pushing the envelope!
Thanks for tuning in and your words. We got some more lined up.
We are just getting Started
Guys you need srsly to talk to the ppl from KliN Korean microfibre, tell them Europe is ripe for the taking, i would buy those towels per your rec, but man i can't find them here in Poland :/
The UK has a few distributors, but not sure if Poland has any
@@DETAILSofficial Damn, man i would like to test them, still, we have great towels like Work Stuff King (you guys should try it if your bored with perfection of the Klin :) and Zerda.
Some of yall worried too much about Pan, real tlk. Yall need to put the Microfiber towels dwn and go get some p**y geesh !!
My man keeping it 💯 👌
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There‘s one major issue with what you said which is also the one thing that Pan doesn‘t seem to understand: Pan did NOT say that his products are „the best“ in his opinion, he literally said that his products are, and i quote: „the best in the market, period“. That‘s what he said. And you simply cannot overlook that.
Would you have been happy if he said his stuff is the 3rd best?
@@SalfromDETAILS that‘s not what I said nor is it relevant to what I wrote. It is a strawman argument, so please stay on topic.
What I am saying is that there is a tangible mismatch between the argumentation that all of this is just Pan‘s opinion, and what Pan actually and factually said. From someone who repeatedly sais about himself that he has an academic background, we can and should expect that he understands and sees the importance of being precise in the wording he uses.
Also, there is a stark difference between claims put out by faceless brands and claims put out by an allegedly independent influencer / product tester who not only sells his own products, but wants to make us believe that his testing means something for the industry and that his testing results are reliable - as has been stated by Pan several times.
@@SalfromDETAILS can you name me at the very least 5 car detailing brands which publicly state that their products are the best in the market, incl. evidence?
@@AndreasSchwarzinger I hear you my man. I just dont care enough nor does it bother me with what he said or anybody else claims about their product. I appreciate your feedback. I guess we all have differrent opions of what makes something the best.
@@SalfromDETAILS that‘s absolutely true! And that‘s exactly why I personally think it‘s so important to be fair and precise when claiming something is „the best“, especially when you run a channel with over 1 million subscribers. As Uncle Ben said: „With great power comes great responsibility.“
Al FINAL
VAS A TERMINAR USANDOLO
PARA COMPROBAR SI ES EL MEJOR…
tu carnal apenas 2 años detallando y ya se SIENTE UN MASTER DE DETAIL
no mms
Xq no has sakado tu marca ?
You're right. My brother has been detailing for only 3 years. And within those three years he has fully committed his time, energy and efforts into continuous improvement which can't be said for most detailers and that's why they are at the same level, earning the same pay with the same clientele for decades. No need to debate on this, we consult with people everyday in this situation and IT IS THE NORM. We speak about what we know and help others learn. So on behalf of my brother and I we thank you for watching and learning .
We probably will use it but it wont be to see if its the best, we will use it just to simply support.
Yes i only been detailing for 3 years. Thank you for watching. My man, i never would claim Im a master detailer. Too many cats in the game that hold that title. What I would say and what I can guarantee is that Im a master of trying to find solutions. Thanks again for watching and supporting. Excellent discussion.
En que aria trabajas tu carnal?
A million or whatever subscribers or whatever.... but from the other best products to his is the world best 🤔 and taking the video down how's that looking for him
We didn't even get in on that subject
@@DETAILSofficial I just saw another video sometimes just talking about it... how he took the video down because of the controversy that his products got award of best 🙆🏾♂️
I hear your point Cebas. Definetly more coming on this.
@@cebasmb8250 Here are the facts. The video was removed. After reading the feedback in the comments, there were a lot of people that were saying that I should not have included my line of products and the ones from Detail Co in the awards, as they are new to the market and not tested by the public yet.
When it was time to start prepping for the awards video, I asked myself the question: “Should I include my own products or not?” And I had decided to include them, because in my heart of hearts I knew how good they were since I had spent so much time on R&D and testing.
I had also been able to test a few Detail Co products ahead of launch to share my feedback with the owners, and I really enjoyed them. Hence why they were also included.
As people now started receiving their orders and started testing, independent reviews are popping up and show that my products perform to a very high level. I’ll let the products speak for themselves.
I want to thank everyone for their continued support of the CLEAN By Pan The Organizer launch of car care products!
Anything and absolutely anything negative brought towards pan he has brought on himself based on how he has handled the release of these products and his obnoxious behavior. He has always been obnoxious and his channel has been nothing more than promoting companies and products that line his pockets. Which is fine. But he promotes himself as something different. He is a scam.
I didn't find his videos obnoxious, just excitement for the release of his new brand.
There's very strong opinions on those in the limelight, on both sides
@@andyr810 Clearly did not read my entire comment. Pan has been an industry whore his entire career.
You expect him to work for free? Let the man do what he wants to do, it shouldn't affect anyone else.
My brother firstly well said and I agree with you. Being in the motor industry all my life and owning my own surface protection detail company I can say that all these people that are reviewing the best in world products are trying to use it to boost their channel that's all and if you say anything negivate about him his review squads will come out with him to attack lol. People can call that been a hater but the fact is that every product he ever reviewed was to his benefit and for his pocket! The detailers that dont take money for Stella reviews are left behind. The best example is pans 2024 awards😂. Keep it real brother.
Cuanto te paga P y S…. X usar su producto y promocionarlo
Chemical guys it aas a detailer whit his friend smart wax
We will explain it all in our next video just for you