China's Third Sea Force is Worse Than You Think
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In March of 2009 the USNS Impeccable was surrounded by a swarm of Chinese vessels as it sailed through the international waters of the South China Sea. Towing a sonar array, the Impeccable conducted surveillance operations on submarines operating in the area. Seventy five miles off the coast of HIGH-nan [Hainan], a Chinese Naval Frigate, a Maritime Fisheries Patrol Vessel, and two fishing trawlers began circling the Impeccable. After the frigate failed to intimidate the U.S. warship, the two fishing trawlers began sailing dangerously close (within 50 feet). Throwing grappling hooks into the water, the fishermen attempted to snag the Impeccable’s towed sonar array. When that failed, they positioned themselves in front of the Impeccable and dumped waste and debris into the Impeccable’s path to force an emergency stop. I guess you could say that their behavior was… less than impeccable.
Written by: Chris Cappy and Patrick Griffin
Video editing by: Savvy Studios
additional animations by: Joshi
These vessels are part of China’s Maritime Militia, a shadowy umbrella force composed of multiple private fishing companies that take up government contracts to act as modern day “privateers.” Employing private vessels to project power and harass your adversaries was a common practice in 18th century England and France, who both employed hundreds of privateers under legal consent contracts called “letters of marque.” In modern terms, think of it like China’s version of the Wagner Group - but with boats.
In 2024 China’s People’s Liberation Army Navy is growing at a breakneck speed. Take a look at this satellite imagery from the Center for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS). These images show rapid development and production in Chinese shipyards. In 2020 China surpassed the United States and became the largest Navy in the world by number of ships. While the U.S. Navy still maintains the lead for the most displaced tonnage, China now produces “more than half” of all new maritime tonnage in the world. So with a fast growing Navy, why would China turn to civilian fishing trawlers to help enforce their control over the South China Sea? And how do these civilian vessels fit into China’s overall naval strategy? Are they Pirates, mercenaries, or something else entirely?
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It is a disgrace you using your so-called veteran (stolen valor) status to push propaganda, you make me sick.
Do you have dyslexia?
The subject matter is great.
The FACTS presented are well supported.
The PRONOUNCIATION of KEY TERMS, NAMES, NATIONS, ISLAND CHAINS, is done by a JACKOFF!
PULL YOUR HEAD OUT OF YOUR ASS, you JACKOFF!
Cheers from the Oil Patch in Central WY
its said "letters of mark" not "mar-q"
One of the big problems with privateers and letters of marque was that, once you started issuing them, pretty much any ship flying your flag became a potential target as well. Using civilian ships for military purposes gives your opponents an excuse to stop, search, and detain your civilian ships under suspicion that they are privateers. It basically risks losing the freedoms of navigation that most major maritime nations have agreed to extend to civilian ships. Right now, none of the countries China is antagonizing in the area have been willing to take that step, but it is absolutely a thing that could happen if things can't be resolved through negotiation.
Exactly.
".... Anyone else want to negotiate?"
"Wh-where did he learn to negotiate like that?"
Those smaller nations are too weak to do so, and the USA too politically feeble to do it in their place.
@@svenrio8521 - Could you elaborate? China is getting a lot of attention, as if China is being used as a diversion away from Russia!
@@svenrio8521 but they are slowly ganging up against the bully
I would think in the event of war the USA would say all Chinese boats must stay out of said waters or be classed as hostile
That is not suicide in any way. Any push back would be laughable. @@Thichaou
China wins the war before the target nation is aware they were at war. They do it by internally-dividing the target nation into impotent factions who fight each other. They did it to India a couple thousand years ago, they did it to USA in the past 50 years.
@@Thichaouoh wing dong Chong China's missiles will not protect them just know when it kicks off don't be crying when your folks get merc,d
@@ThichaouChina's birthrate is so low that China us committing demographic suicide. 😢
Of course, if China blockades Taiwan they'll do the same saying any watercraft or aircraft trying to breach the blockade will be treated as hostile and destroyed.
I met a vietnamese marine who had recently been discharged, around 2020. I showed him my stitches on my chin from recent bike accident, and he lifted his shirt and showed me his stitches. pointed and said China.
We don't hear in the news, but they already use live rounds on those islands, not just ramming, and water cannons.
LOL you guys dont hear about the hundreds of fishing boats Indonesia has sank? dummies only focus on China
Ahahaha..nice try.
@@deepone5005 nice try of what? what are you trying to say
@@deepone5005tell me you’re a bot without telling me you’re a bot
It is waste of your talent if you don't write fiction stories as a profession.
For those who don't understand privateer is literally a legal pirate
ARRRRRRRRR ya sure about that?!
Nah, fr youre right. I just couldnt help myself.
@@evananderson1455 to be fair after many of their contracts ended they did become straight up pirate vessels, so maybe we will see the return of the chinese junk era pirate empire
But Pirate?
@user-xl1gi2hd5n More like if the US hired Somali pirates to raid Russian and Iranian ships. US would get a portion of the loot and the privateers would get the rest.
@@Knight_Kin State-sanctioned pirates.
One of the more famous historical privateer is the famed English privateer Sir Francis Drake.
Wait, if these “civilian” vessels are actively carrying combat personnel, doesn’t that waive their protections against attacks to them being labeled as war crimes?
Well yes but even if they weren't carrying them you would still be fine to sink them if they were in disputed Taiwanese waters.
Like if they crossed into waters that are within the several mile barrier that each country gets they could sink them just fine certainly even if they were totally innocent.
Chinas position is that's actually Chinese waters so it doesn't count.
But then on that basis it's just the Chinese that sunk the boat :p
An invasion of Taiwan is in China's view a civil war basically.
But if Taiwan issues a NOTAM.
In this case a notice to mariners declaring the waters off Taiwan off limits to all foreign vessels they can avoid any claims of criminal action by sinking them even with little to no warning.
@@sparkzbarca So then.. Why doesn't anyone actually do anything? Like with the mentioned Vietnam incident in the video.
@@Atourq because sinking for example a Chinese ship would almost certainly get you a tit for tat.
China would sink for example a Vietnamese boat claiming it did bad stuff even if it did not.
But they might in fact sink more than one and now you have to respond and you climb the escalation ladder.
So they didn't do anything for the same reason you might do nothing if a big giant hulking 7' tall 250 lb beast of a man came into the cafeteria and took the piece of cake you had off your lunch tray.
Vietnam isn't the US and they might not be ready for the consequences.
Now China also has some hesitation to go too far cause the Philippines for example is a US ally and you might find that you sink a few Philippines boats and suddenly the Philippines is launching anti ship missiles from its coast at you and if you respond by attacking them several US carriers respond by sinking your boats.
So everyone just shoves each other in the hallways and calls each other names.
@@Atourqmoney and trade. Duh
It boggles my mind too that we still trade with them after we've seen how they operate:
No free press, Firewalled internet..Slave labor & Organ harvesting of dissidents.. lied about spreading a deadly contagion worldwide, quarantining citizens for years.. No environmental regulations on industry.. Potemkin Villages - entire empty cities built for the sake of GDP and luring foreign investment...
The shear scale of corruption and crimes against humanity is mind-blowing!
Lol not like the US or their boss israel care about being blamed for war crimes, it's what they do
In the old days, a civilian ship that acted like a pirate was treated as a pirate. The world has gone too soft and now bad actors are using it as an advantage.
That's cuz back then there were no Nukes and Missiles
With your old ways a stronger country like China would come out on top even more over those little countries dependent on others.
@@dylangilv.alviola4714United States should get out of the sea that
is named rightly to whom it belongs -- China. .
Simple as.
And when that happens, we can question the
legitimacy US has over Hawaii (llegally toppled
a democratic government to install a chain of
hotels), Puerto Rico, Alaska, almost all of land
Western of New York (settler colonialism) and SC
on.
@@dylangilv.alviola4714 If The Philippines were to sink a militia vessel inside their EEZ the CCP would bluster, issue condemnations and recall their ambassador for a few months, but nothing else would come of it. The militia harassment would scale back for several months until the media looked elsewhere, then they would begin ramping back up.
CCP plays the long game and will only do what it can get away with without consequence.
@@dylangilv.alviola4714, China isn’t going to start WW3 over a few “fishing boats”.
Japan: “For the love of God DONT TOUCH THE USA BOATS”
unless it is Israel. Check out USS Liberty
@@016.kazinakibafjal2 underestimating the USA's ability to ramp up industrial capacity in response to touching the boats was a big mistake and cost them everything.
@@016.kazinakibafjal2No…..it’s really not.
USA isn’t the same power it was in ww2 they can’t win a prolonged war against china
Never know, America could be throwing fake news😂 out about our fleets. We could have been upping them in secret somewhere. 😏
I love it "the British might find some old maps in their basement" 😂
Britain : From your logic, give us back Hong Kong.
Portugal : Kindly return Macau to us as well.
@@felixleong61Indigenous Americans: Get the F Off my property
@@felixleong61 the 99 year expiration date is a bit of a pickle
@@caniform-craze2080 Oh yeah. Forgotten about that. My history is rusty lol
@@felixleong61 lol even if it is played at the nicest level, only the small Hong Kong island could be retained, the new territories don't have the political or historical leverage to be kept. Look at Goa, a colony of Portugal, the Indian army marched right in and took it, devastating for the falling Portuguese empire.
It is not a fishing boat. It is a Undercover Chinese Militia Vessel.
Yes correct
Except the U.S. and its parrotting media make this claim about all Chinese fishing vessels with no evidence whatsoever. "Look, several fishing vessels are anchored, waiting for a storm to end. Must be the Chinese Maritime Militia!" When you lie this much, people stop paying attention. According to Gallup, only 32% of Americans trust their news agencies anymore and I can see why.
patriotic fisherman who wants to serve their country. Just like you, a patriotic american who wants to serve your country and think good about your country!
Is why one part of the geneva conventions is to not disguise military as civilian. If you break it and send one, then the other countries can stop all of your legitimate civilians without any cause besides being from your country.
That’s interesting because during the liberation movements in Africa most of the freedom fighters didn’t have uniforms because they couldn’t afford it. They still managed to kick out the colonisers but Britain would always label them as terrorists lmao.
They even labelled the founding fathers of America as terrorists for a time.
in case you're wondering if the 57mm deck gun is still useful...the Chinese thoughtfully created the perfect practice target.
I was thinking the same, and least the water cannons.
Every time he says “Spartly” I die a little inside.
why
@@neuxell you didn't watch the whole clip or you have less knowledge of Spratly Islands.
@@neuxellRE: Why does he 'die' when the narrator says 'Spartly'?
That is because he is mispronouncing their name. They are spelled and pronounced 'Spratly'.
Despite the spelling being correct, he repeatedly mispronounces them as 'Spartly'.
In China there's no such thing as private
Everything is classified as whatever is most beneficial to whatever the party messaging is.
@@Plainsburner no everything is literally the Partys property in china the people own nothing.
Not even private parts. They sell those too.
Indeed
Rubbish. This is factually incorrect.
A normal fishing vessel would not engage hostile maneuver with a military vessel. One warning shot, then at will.
yes this is peace time, during war time, you would need no data base. it would simply be like you said. they get 1 one warning shot.
@@Hollis968 Into the Bridge.
Yes
Not necessarily, protest is something that a fishing boat could engage in which if taken to an extreme is exactly what the 3rd Sea Force is doing mostly. It's a legal grey area that only works in times of peace.
@@tedjohnson4451 No, just below the waterline near the engine room.
Great Britain: We pulled some old maps. We actually own America.
You still do.
"China Uncensored" channel have talked about Chinese fishing militia Boat and other China capability for years.
Lmao
tbf cappy's not just talking china. he's also got every other country out there, and major developments in active conflicts (russia, israel, etc) almost always take precedence over those in passive ones in his content.
Chris was right all along
Most blatant propaganda channel
@@chatter4427Oh the irony
It's called plausible deniability! Or maybe strategic ambiguity?
Reverse the roles
If China was chilling out side Miami how many drunk rednecks would harass them
This is neither, plausible deniability is the ability to say, "this has nothing to do with me". Strategic ambiguity is about making sure that your enemy isn't sure what you are going to do. This would probably be closer to exploiting a hole in the rules
Creeping decimalism , fraud by theft - at glacial speeds!
Weaponized hubris
@@JackJackrabbitpart of making sure your enemy has no idea what you’re going to do might include the capacity to convincingly assert that x has nothing to do with y. Imo you’re not making a a meaningful distinction there.
It amounts to China exerting force to achieve its long term strategic interests in its own back yard. The US only real interest in the South China Sea is in a relationship of exploitation of resources, markets and cheap labor on behalf of its corporate class. China will take advantage of this too, when the time comes. The era of “Pax” Americana is coming to an end. It’s been anything but peaceful for the global south, to include the masses of people in China. People don’t like being invaded, having the wealth of their lands and waters plundered and squeezed dry only to be abandoned either when all value has been torn from the hands of the starving masses, or until they manage to evict the ferociously parasitic colonialist powers, root and stem.
It’s a tactic China is using to change that economic order to benefit its interests, for better or worse. The implication that the US has now, or ever, paid serious regard to any international law or rules based order, independently of its effect on the powerful classes of the US, is a joke that doesn’t need to be addressed seriously. The US shirks international law 100% of the time it doesn’t suit those economic interests.
Given these things, uhhh, based? Honestly. I hope the PRC wins in its efforts to gain control of more of the world. It’s lifted hundreds of millions out of abject poverty and illiteracy in its very short historical life, the entirety of which has been dogged by the US without a moments respite. Nevertheless, the standards of living of its people continues to grow like wildfire. China isn’t perfect, but the idea that era of US hegemony was better for most of the people affected by it is another ridiculous farce. So far, China appears to be an obvious net gain, even if ALL it does is exert enough power to exclude the US, government and private, over a region of the world. I say good for them and good for most of the world too.
Great video 👍 thank you for taking the time to make this video you guys are doing a great job informing the general public. Keep up the good work
If it's Chinese, assume it's a combatant, I say.
Just like the CCCP in the olden times
I’m sure you do lol
Ain't war Hell!? 😂🤣
lol what the heck man, no. stop stirring
even the fishing vessel has water cannons to deter away fishermen 100km out to the sea
And when they aren't doing military stuff, those fleets of fishing ships are destroying all sea life they can. They scrape the bottom and pull up everything. Oh yeah, they commonly turn off their transponders and fish in other countries' waters.
So does everybody else, the chinese didn't invent industrial fishing...
@@jamesgarner327 It's not even close little pink. No other country has that many fishing vessels scouring the worlds oceans. They are estimated to have between 500,000 - 800,000. They heavily overfish and routinely catch endangered species too.
@@ruck-a-tron Mate, I come from a family of fishermen, trust me the spaniards were just as bad in the 80's...
@@ruck-a-tron And if you want over fishing in the pacific why don't you take a look at Japan or South Korea, they come right next after China...
@@jamesgarner327 I agree that other places may do similar things, but the scale is what sets them apart. Look up information about their fleets and it's just insane. They have huge mother ships that all the smaller ships bring their catches to and resupply. Their fleets can stay out at sea almost indefinitely.
As a Canadian, I was just surprised to hear CSIS did a thing
It ain't our CSIS (founded in '84) it is the Center for Strategic and International Studies (founded in 1962 in the US)
Confused me too the first time I heard it.
Then CSIS (the Canadian one...) is doing it's job properly. You're not SUPPOSED to know they are doing anything. If you know what an intelligence service is doing they have failed at their job. Also; they do a lot. Only the Canadians of the AB variety assume otherwise, but the rest of Canada probably treats them like the US does FL, it's the country's a-hole.
@@WhiteWolf65does CSIS actually do anything? Genuinely curious because I’ve read quite a few posts from people in Canada that claim it’s an utter waste of an agency
Chinese coast guard's "reinforced hull" ships were punctured when they rammed a smaller japanese made philippine coast guard ship😂
Yes. It was reinforced, duh. Had it not been it would have sunk upon impact with a slight wave or seagull.
you believe your crazy stupid local media eh
@@Plaprad Reinforced with ten layers of tofu.
Worked as a SMAW welder for shipbuilding. And I can say, even a civilian vessel with 10-15mm of steel hull is more sturdy than a "repurposed" Chinese Corvette lmao
@@_spooT sensing nervous false laughter there matey
I just was searching some vid to watch and dine, thanks for the immediate needed support!
God bless the enclave
@@codylowe1683 Amen
My Guy!
WHERE IS YOUR POWER AMOUR?
@@manfredvonrichtofen3863 COME BACK TILL YOU LOOK LIKE A SOLDIER!
Very fascinating video. Well done, Cappy.
Also China, "we don't threaten anyone."
Taiwan, "bruh"
Taiwan is a tiny speck of land 100 miles from mainland China, which is range of MLRS from the mainland. It is populated with Chinese people. It is easy for China to blockade Taiwan and many...possibly a majority... do not have any problem with formally becoming part of China. When the time comes, they will meet for a few weeks, agree to reunify, and they will come up with a NEW FLAG for the combined-China. Not one drop of blood will be shed in the process, nothing will change in the eyes of the people... except the new flag.
According to them: Technically they're threatening themselves xD
@@husseinmusse6826that is hilarious
When have they threatened Taiwan directly?
Taiwan Province, China
Disappointed in lack of paper waving/smacking cappy.
***not the actual paper…
Excellent coverage, appreciate you speaking on this topic
Paramilitary forces, should be treated as military forces doing military business, and be dealt thereafter.
Right on.
So by that logic usa should be banned from Asia
@@emmetray4141 what's usa doing near China ? Usa should be sent back to its boundaries
yep, idk why Cappy called them "privateers"
Are you going to talk about the recent Chinese "exercises" near Taiwan?
He's probably gonna need time to gather information
Buddy no one is scared of china just another Russia
Why quotes around exercise? You think they aren't? If they aren't then what are they?
The US knows that China has a very serious intention to re-unify Taiwan, and it is doubtful that the US will take direct offensive action to stop them just as we didn't do against the Russians in Ukraine. The Chines were showing the Taiwanese that their naval strength is sufficient, and at the current rate of J-20 and in 2 years, along with the J-10 and over 100 nautical miles) And the 055D destroyers under construction (The 055D is fitted with the Dragon Eye 346B, which has radar capable of seeing F-35 at greater than 100 nautical miles) they will have what they feel they need to be successful in the war with Taiwan.
@@ex0duzz they are particularly large and aggressive this year compared to recent years. So the entire world is pretty suspicious about them right now.
Don’t forget the Shipping Container Missile Launcher Platform.
This is the Communist Party's method, albeit just a single facet, of "unrestricted warfare".
Which covers low grade biological warfare.. 🤔🤔
It's time the world held China accountable for their behavior
HARTHORN oh and 222 years of US non stop warfare against the world is ok .
💯
@@zxt5148 应该让美国负责新冠原型在美国很早就有了
I wonder if you realize that's propaganda or if you just can't tell so actually think that's true
Those dudes are a headache in southamerica, just ask argentina.
Chinese boats must have way better logistics than your US navy if they can travel all the way from China to South America (without porting in South America) just to fish.
The Anglosphere still has conflict with the Hispanosphere like Spain, Mexico, Cuba, Venezuela, and Argentina.
@@tritium1998 better logistic, of course, that's why we know over here about the chinese slave ships and the chinese fishermen that try to swim to the coast just to escape those ships.
It's great when you bring things that have nothing to do with my original comment, just like a bot would do, my main issue is how those chinese boats predates our natural resources, to the point we had to reinforce our patrol vessels just to keep you away from us.
@@tritium1998 Those are those Large mobile fishing factories of course they are able to travel that far, just to steal
@@342Rodry then why is india no 1 in slavery?
@@zacksmith5644 great whataboutism loser
Another great video! I'm Australian....and this is the important current affairs news that I wish the mainstream here would share. It's relevant.
Sounds like some "orcha whales" might get a taste for chinese fishing vessels soon
Orca shaped torpedo. Im down
You joke but some orcas have started attacking civilian boats.
@@lastswordfighter Pretty sure that's the reference he's making
@@piouswhale sounds like our us navy will be coral reefs
@@lastswordfighter That's what I was basing my joke on. Philippines sinks Chinese "fishing" boats and blames it on those damn ship sinking orcas.
South china sea is not China's sea ⛵
😂
Hahaha clever
Nor is the "Sea of Japan". South Korea calls that same region "East Sea".
yeah must be mexican coast
Chinese are FAR SMARTER Than the Americans and Pinoys...😂😂😂😂😂😂
Hey there Chris, awesome video. You did this topic a lot of justice, especially for us Filipinos who have their hands tied when it comes to dealing with these pirates. I think you could tie this up with another unconventional topic that is currently a hot button issue in the Philippines and other places, known as Offshore Gaming Operations (OGO). There are several of these in the Philippines, known in short as POGO and they're suspected of housing sleeper agents and possibly even plain clothes PLA troops. I wish you could make a video on this as this is a global threat, even in American soil.
Would also be interested!
你太看得起自己了 老兄
11:14 - "I've put their names in text on screen right now; not because I can't pronounce them...." I love your content, but your sense of humor makes it best in class!
Correction: Taiping Island is controlled by Taiwan, not PRC.
Is that same as Itu Aba?
Yes it is 🎉
Republic of China vs Peoples Republic of China... people confuse the two pretty regularly...
Still part of china
@@wilfdarr Taiwan is part of china
How can China invade itself ?
An easy move would be to classify certain water cannons as weapons of war, so to speak. Return fire and defense would then be warranted. A memorandum declaring ramming and such as acts of piracy might also work.
You don't pronounce the E in Marque, its a homophone with 'Mark', otherwise good job as usual, keep it up.
Spratly, not spartly.
You were first off the marque, beat me to it.
Ha!
classic cappy moment 😂
If you listen to the song “Barrett’s Privateers” it’s in the first verse “oh the year was 1778, how i wish i was in sheerbrook now, a letter of marque came from the king, to the scummiest vessal i’d ever seen, goddamn them all!”
I see these “fishing boats” as fair game when assisting in military operations.
I love your dedication to your presentation on this channel!! Good job man
You know what the US Navy will call those vessels? TARGETS!
And then usa will become coral reefs
Usa navy is worse then u think
Usa navy should remember that the area is chinese .
That makes usa a target
@@zacksmith5644Holy are you a Chinese bot?
@@zacksmith5644 Hello TH-cam bot, the south china sea, while it has china in the name is in fact international waters. And while I do have some quibbles with how the US Navy has constructed it's surface combatant portion of the fleet, it is not weak.
Your editor needs a raise, just saying 😂😂😂😂😂
The editor is a government employee. This is a government funded channel.
We found the editor's fake account
@@TheJZPoh no! The horror!
@@chadbrownlee3144 on average, 22 humans in the US military commit suicide every day.. oh the horror!!
@TheJZP okay, while that's tragic what does that have to do with the subject matter?
Italy with Chinese logic: "According to those old maps, we own the Mediterranean Sea."
你去看看希腊的海域再来说中国南海吧，中国对南海拥有主权，菲律宾还没有建国呢！哈哈，一个菲律宾中国还不放在眼里
Just as an FYI the whole of china uses a obscurement layer on all its geo data to make information gathering more difficult. This is why google maps satelite images don't match up with street markings
You can clearly see this on the Hong-Kong-China border
this only effects us civilians who are too broke to pay for imaging. you can just pay for pretty timely photos nowadays, people do it all the time in russia/ukraine
Are you sure about this? How exactly does Chinas even homegrown version of Google maps work then?
Like even if Google maps does not work in China let's say, surely they have a Chinese equivalent and if so you could just use that location data
@@sparkzbarca yea, there's lots of chinese maps apps
@@sparkzbarca if you are interested there is a video by @Half as interesting "Why every map of China is Just Slightly Wrong"
Great report. As an FYI, Spratley is pronounced the same as 'brat-lee" but with an S. Paracel is pronounced "para-cell" (airborne i-phone? Hooah!)
Maybe the USA should give the Philippines a national defense aid, but it is used to purchase civilian ships with some 'special features' in Japanese and American ship yards. Then remind the PRC that attacking a Filipino civilian ship with lethal force is an act of war. So let the Philippines play the same game as China.
water cannon is not classified as "lethal force"
Deosnt matter china wontnback doen until bad thing start happeing from Philippine action @@prastagus3
Not everyone is as dumb as Ukraine. No one wants to die for the US
@@prastagus3it can be modified to kill funnily enough
That would be greaaaat!!!
A lot of Chinese fishermen are going to be getting high energy beam eye surgery on the open Waters😂
Yeah gotta disable the crew without sinking those boats. Ccp might have put toxic shit in those boats to discourage enemies sinking them.
@@ywsx6489 u can try . But you ll be treated same way .
Chinese can do that to u as well
You sir is one the best put there in military vids like these! Greatly research topic and and some dose of humor. Power ranger reference had me floored lol -PH
I think I've figured it out. Icebreakers. Big ass icebreakers. Push the fishing boats out of the way, like all the time. Don't thank me--I am of course, a genius.
Russia: You wanna hire some icebreakers, China? Dah, dah, those from the Soviet Union.
So the country already making the most biggest ships can use icebreakers too.
I guess if you want to revisit 1904 again you can depend on the Russian navy.
@@tritium1998 Ours will have like, barbecue, though.
@@Clem68W Not navy but Russian icebreaker for polar area exploration
Thanks!
thanks I appreciate the kindness : D
As a Vietnamese who's lost many of his family to war. I appreciate your coverage on this matter. Many families in the coastal regions have lost life, limbs, and their livelihood due to Chinese reckless aggression. I am glad this transgression is brought to light in the West.
Correction and error spotted:
8:42 Sand Cay is Vietnamese administered, not Chinese**
8:44 Taiping island is ROC administered, so wrong flag is used here, PRC flag was used
It doesn't matter, China will take it back
Great video as always, however, there is a little correction that I would like to point out. Taiping Island mentioned in the video is actually under Taiwan's control, there are currently active R.O.C service members stationed there.
Great episode. Fascinating developments in the South China Sea. I do wonder if Zeihan is right that China would be crazy to try this fight at this time.
These are just constructive: Letter of Marque, the final word is pronounced “Mark”. To be “Markee” it would be spelled Marquis.
The islands are “SPRAT-LEE”. Not spart-Lee.
At this point we shouldn't consider them civilians.
well yes,
they are militia, part of China's paramilitary forces
police are also counted as paramilitary, and as such they arent considered civilians; neither should militia be treated with civilian status
Neither will China with the US/UK.
Be careful what u wish for.
You should be an anchor for a major news network. You would command trust from the public by your unbiased reporting while making the report informative and interesting
Very interesting video. Thanks for the information.
Good ideas here. If the Chinese Fisher Militia lose a few vessels to other "fishing" vessels, they might think twice when the orders come down the pipe.
Excuse to send their navy in
Send some "fishing" unmanned sea drones their way.
@@renanfelipedossantos5913 Fishing torpedos
it should be "Mysteriously" like those "Somalian" pirates raiding them
for "unknown" reasons
Those Chinese naval militia is armed with small arms, an attempt of Filipino "Fishermen" would mean that someone could die or get injured.
That old graph might pop up here of F around and Find out, if you want to play with the big dogs when your playing as a regular ship...then you get treated like a normal warship.
*draws lines around China*
Mine now...
You can proclaim yourself as emperor too like the old days.
@@caniform-craze2080try it
Chinese created the first maps . So by that logic they can draw around u
British is laughing at you.
The Maritime Militia would make one hell of a first-wave, disposable, Invasion fleet. The CCP has forced their ship makers for decades now to make all civilian vessels military conversion compliant (Only hand tools would be needed for cutting section/dividers for ships such as Roll-on Roll-off ferries, maybe a forklift to hold a reinforcing beam). Their "Fishing" vessels have 2" (or thicker) Double hulls made for ramming other ships (and running themselves onto beaches or coasts), with a troop carrying capacity of up to 100 infantry depending on ship size.
Source?
The thing is, would they be difficult to sink?
@@TheUltimateOpportunist they don't need to be, there's enough of them that they could land a significant invasion Force by sheer numbers alone
@@iLumberjack Mostly "China Uncensored" on TH-cam, which quotes and puts on screen both US Governmental reports, News, and Media videos. New York Times has a good article "Fleets of Force" on the matter of The Maritime Militia using fake fishing boats for military purpose. Rueters (2015 artcle): "China approves plan for civilian ships to be used by military" is another. Mandating civilian vehicles be designed for the intent to be used directly for military use or rapidly converted with minimal effort dates as far back as WWII Germany (Can't say that censored word) during the interwar period with their civilian aircraft industry being mandated to make their airliners be rapidly convertible to bombers. There is no reason to believe the efforts only just started when it was publicly announced just like historical examples did before acknowledgement.
@@TheUltimateOpportunist It's Estimated there are about 20,000 or more Vessels that fit the description of "Fishing Trawler" that aren't used for fishing or were mandated be able to be used for "not fishing" (meaning military) activities, however china has stopped sharing ship positional system data and does not track, nor publish the actual amount of vessels for Maritime Militia forces. The issue isn't that they're sinkable or not, it's that there are too many to take out (not enough munitions to do so). With the 2x 2" hull figure, a .50 BMG on an M2 Heavy Machine Gun should still penetrate one side (.50 BMG can penetrate up to 6" steel depending on cartridge if memory serves correctly. China has between 20 million to 45 million young men without females for them and will face collapse soon if they don't get women for them (by taking them from other nations) or by killing them off somehow (barring technological developments that are probably 3 decades away when collapse is likely within 1).
China has recently expanded the 9 dash line to include Taiwan, and any maps made in China include it, but maps made outside China have no dashes at all.
I saw you on History tv 18. From India
All nations affected by Chinese illegal fishing need to be hostile to these ships themselves.
Thats literally every nation with a coastline.
Illegal fishing 😆
Abolish and decouple from fishing.
@@jacksmith-mu3ee Laugh at the smaller nations that depend on fishing and have Chinese ships using this 'third' fleet destroy their entire industry and pollute the water so much it doesn't come back.
The US also has a third naval force it’s called the naval militia it’s basically divided into two categories: Title 10 naval militia and Title 32 naval militia. Title 10 naval militia can receive federal resources while a Title 32 naval militia is entirely funded by a state government.
ANYTHING chinese is worse than you think...
@munnakhan8961 we're told chinas nukes a filled with water lol russian soldiers are fighting with shovels. If you say don't underestimate your enemies, you're a russian/Chinese bot
My chop sticks has been looking funny at me recently.
Just like anything from the US
As a Chinese, I am glad you think that. Keep thinking that way.
@@munnakhan8961 it’s not a mindset limpwrist
The Philippines needs to step up from 1% to 2% and build more ships. The donations of ships from US and the Koreans are a good start. They need to be the US's 3rd navy. Philippines have so many islands. It means sense to have a small fleet of anti ship, patrol ships. 1200 ton, 37mm gun, sea-ram with 4 antiship missiles, 30 knots.
The Philippines is a true shthole in every way, wht makes u think they have the money to build a navy?
@@DefensisIndusUSA has already colonized Phillipines
Why should Phillipines be US' navy?
@@DefensisIndus Again, why should Phillipines be US' navy and give away all its sovereignty?
@@DefensisIndus Where is the written request by Phillipines asking USA to make it their navy?
Time to bring back the old rams that ran just under the waterline.
Why can’t they be classified as terrorist?
Because the US has classified pretty much EVERYONE as a terrorist now.
That word has lost all its meaning.
@@johnsmith1953x💯
“criminal acts, including against civilians, committed with intent to cause death or serious bodily injury, or taking of hostages, with the purpose to provoke a state of terror in the general public or in a group of persons or particular persons, intimidate a population or compel a government or an international ...”
😂😂我们可以把安格鲁撒克逊人定义为外星人😂😂
@@zl66666The Anglo-Saxons were superior “aliens” in exploring and dominating the South China Sea in a small amount of time, compared to China, whom were there much longer.
And they are all over the world's waters fishing illegally too!
Thanks for sharing Cappy
Germany used similar tactics in WW2, but their merchant raiders were much more deadly
I think in WW2, a number of civil maritime vessels were used for the war effort. A large example was Dunkirk where the British government asked its civilian mariners to help get their countrymen back to British shores.
Didn’t have 20 thousand ships though
But we had german hardbass on board .
You misspelled TOFUjian AirCRAP Carrier. Great video.
That's ss junkyard Ford 🤣🤣🤣
Outstanding work, great job.
In time of war, these boats should be targets of opportunity
and they likely commonly will
@@dead-claudia won't work.. China defeated usa already
The state owns 51 percent of every company in China. Even companies that do business overseas they own 51%. I did security for a Chinese Bitcoin mining company, and was told that when they had an "Inspector" show up one night
and the remaining 49% is owned by dudes OWNED BY THE STATE so... 😅
@@vladcraioveanu233 True
Cool, so there's not private company in China and therefore those vessels are not civilian vessels.
@@renanfelipedossantos5913 that's what I was pointing out.
Thanks for information on the Sinister Navy.
Feel weird in the plums at seeing US Air power flexing its might??? If by weird you mean rock hard, then YES
You should join the Navy and get on an aircraft carrier. That way you can be rock hard and get your fill of seamen .
Thank you for your sharing your diversity.
USA #1
Those are not contractors. If it’s Chinese it belongs to the CCP.
Taiwan is part of china
How can China invade itself ?
Good . Why don't we allow open access to all chinese in usa .
@@zacksmith5644 Because they all work for the CCP, directly or indirectly, and can therefore not be trusted.
level of ignorance expected of an American Sinopphobe
My life without TH-cam would be just tubeless. Great video again!
That's "Spratley...!" "Splendid!"
“ I ain’t said that shit” Sun tzu
Excellent summation on an important topic
@taskandpurpose great video.
The islands are Spratley, not Spartley as you pronounced.
Also, The quasi military fishing boat would have a 9m BEAM not a 9m BERM.
It is interesting that China has thousands of shipyards, accounting for over 51% of the world's total, while the US shipbuilding industry only accounts for 1%. China has a complete shipbuilding industry chain, with millions of shipbuilding engineers.
The Chinese drone industry is also very developed, with an annual output of several million aircraft. China leads the United States in supersonic weapons, and currently only the United States leads China in the aviation industry, but the gap is narrowing!
Just imagine if 20 million Chinese civilians crossed the Baring Straight in boats and just walked into Alaska.
It won't happen. Everyone forgot China's space station and lunar rover. In June, a new lunar rover landed on the back of the moon. Keep your opinion.
@@齐天大圣-t5f "Keep your opinion" WTF is that?
No, you imagine it, cause even China isn't that stupid....
@@D_isco_D_ancer he thinks it matters what he says.....
@@ChiefCabioch
'Marque' is pronounced "mark" not "marquee"
And "debris" is pronounced "deb-BREE". The "S" is silent. Blame the French, not me. And it's already plural. I don't make the rules.
The French can be blamed for a lot of things but not this. In French the word marque is pronounced mark.
Marquee or marquis or marquise are completely different unrelated words.
Don’t blame me blame the dictionary.
@@THEScottCampbell deb-BREE sounds the best of all the pronunciations I've encountered, just rolls off the tongue nicely, but I think the proper pronunciation is DAY-bree
And Spratly is pronounced...well...Spratly
Got it “Mark-Kay” wait no let me try again . On the real, thank you I’ll get it right next time
Those boats should be labeled as pirates as soon as they are aggressive against military boats … simple but efficients …
First question to ask, who is harassing who. China's fishing boats just off China's coasts and South China Sea, or American navy vessels traveling thousands of miles off its west coasts.
Here is the answer. China isn’t the only country there. There are a dozen other sovereign nations located there and their maritime zones overlap in confusing ways. China disputes those unclear maritime economic zones . Without US Power those smaller countries would have lost their valuable maritime zones long ago. Is that what you want? It would be like if the US tomorrow went into Mexico and took their maritime property because they are bigger and can. To pretend it’s as simple as “why is the US in the pacific “ is being the kind of disingenuous and narrow minded you would claim to be against.
@@Taskandpurpose美国一方面为南海“声张正义”，一方面不停的给以色列援助炸弹，用于对加沙种族灭绝，
@@Taskandpurpose可以解释下美国对加沙的做法吗😢
@@Taskandpurpose you didn't answer his question
What the hell is usa doing near China ?
@@Taskandpurpose😂😂
How about shut the hell up and mind your own business .
And don't tell china how to live in its own continent .
Usa took texas California from Mexico .
So u lost the argument in your comment .
Again . Why is usa near China ? Usa doesn't belong there
太不专业了,我们的渔船可没有装备水炮, 视频里面用水炮射击东南亚船只的是中国的海警船. 建议你做视频之前先做做调查做做功课, 视频通篇的错误太多了, 当然了, 也可能是你"无意"犯下的错误, 意图误导观众.
Do you think the benefits of trying to project power over all of the South China Sea is worth the price in hostility from all neighbors and western powers finding footholds in south east Asia to contain China? I’ve always thought the CCP acts shortsightedly by antagonizing all neighbors and sending them running to the arms of the west.
Spratley... berm/beam... look em up. But overall helpful. Thanks!
Excellent video!
Thank you for the video. I think there are two mistakes:
1. Taiping Island is under control of ROC (aka Taiwan) not PRC.
2. The offset between the road map and the satellite imagery is due to the domestic restiction of map data in China. Systematic errors are added to the published map data intentionally by law, and only licensed companies in China can align the data. Google has no such license in China thus cannot align the map data (with errors) with the basically accurate satellite imagery.
United States should get out of the sea that
is named rightly to whom it belongs -- China. .
Simple as.
And when that happens, we can question the
legitimacy US has over Hawaii (llegally toppled
a democratic government to install a chain of
hotels), Puerto Rico, Alaska, almost all of land
Western of New York (settler colonialism) and SC
on.
In all seriousness, using this naval militia force is incredibly smart and dangerous on China’s part. Why sacrifice your main primary naval vessels when you can use an integrated force. Those smaller vessels are capable of disrupting communications, distracting the allies, causing small but significant losses and damage to other vessels, blockades, insertion of special operatives, utilising SAM systems…..
Glad to see you covering this! Great stuff.
Also, "mark" not "mar-kee" ;-)
Also, "Spratly," not "Spartly."
This is war without declaring war. Laws about non-combatants and civilian infrastructure no longer apply. A sad day for humanity.
7:42 - Yeah, the response was so crazy that one would think some country can use their own logic too and create more chaos.